A very nice presentation of one of the most ''renowned'' gunmakers in the world! With so much change going on today it's still nice to see a staple that has managed to survive! Thank you Jonny for showing us these!
I once used the Ferrari/Best gun analogy when chatting with a good friend of mine. His reply was he never had a problem jumping in and driving any of his Ferraris. Nor shooting his best London guns. I think I was driving a Fiat Panda 4x4 and shooting a Webley 700 at the time.
I think that, if you look closely and without rose-colored glasses, the quality of wood-to-metal fit on any number of old guns from the classic period (including Purdeys) would be better...much better.
I worked on fitting out there new workshop a few years ago, got to see there build process and various guns at different stages of completion. Was amazing to see the craftsmanship in person.
I’ve had an experience with a 20B 1930’s SxS and it is indeed a feeling difficult to describe. It felt, and handled like nothing else I’d ever had in hand.
Had a friend 30 yrs ago, he worked for Purdeys. He made the stock. Each employee specialises on each section of the gun. After a few years he got a good offer from Holland and Holland and took it
I have a confession- yes- a confession to an addiction to watching this video numerous times !!!!...... What an incredible experience this must have been- to shoot/handle two of the finest Purdeys ever. " Built to a standard- not a price", pretty much sums it up. Just wonderful. Now- time to watch again !!!!
The great quality of these fine guns is that they make the memory of it much better than the actual experience. And that is much, much more important...
" They are something else", has to be hard to describe the opportunity to actually shoot- let alone handle a pair of exquisite bespoke guns such as these. You are indeed lucky my friend. Excellent video. You need to do a video of inside Purdey- and share how some of these are created. Thanks again for this video sir.
I visited south Audley st. on a trip to London and it was a lovely experience..got to fit a "try" gun and just take in some of the history about the place...not the German shrapnel imbedded in the walls as you enter the building.
My dad was a gunsmith and one of his clients brought his Holland and Holland 4 bore goose gun round for a service and testing of some reloadable brass to be machined for him and as I was obsessed with guns at such an early age he seemed to want to feed the obsession and when he came back to collect his gun he gave me a Diana air rifle which was his when he was my age prior to WWI I think the rifle was made in 1908 but his collection of shotguns and rifles was super rare and exotic to say the least .
There is a definite "poetry" that one can feel when shooting a Purdey. It is hard to describe. Perhaps one can say that there is an elegant balance to the slender taper of the gun. While it may be difficult to measure exactly what 800 man hours looks like as a finished product , there is an obvious difference that you notice once you shoot it. The trigger system is just much better than most. In my opinion , sidelock triggers are generally more crisp and " acute" than their box lock counterparts. If you compared the triggers of the Purdeys in the video to those in mass produced guns the difference is startlingly noticeable.
Even if I had that kind of money, I doubt that I would splash that kind of cash for what I essentially see as a tool. For a fraction of the price, you could get a pair of AYA number 1s made for yourself. Beautifully made guns just a lot more affordable.
When you mentioned "an extra something" it reminded me of an article about hand made items in which the author talked about psychic imprinting which gave the item it's special feel
Amazing what the most skilled craftsmen and artists can accomplish. I could just stand there and admire them as astonishing works of art. How well did they shoot for you? There are fields where performance always trumps appearances. Sportsmen are endlessly searching for a better performing shotgun or set of golf clubs. Envision being able to have a shotgun that is the best performing fine firearm you have ever used replicated by Purdey and finished to their highest standards.
I remember a lot of years ago on a visit to London & purdeys, I walked in & was looking at their guns, a salesman walked up to me & after a conversation, he asked me id I would like to look at a couple of guns, to which I said a big yes, he brought out 2 guns, then left me by myself to admire their beauty & lines, 30 years down & one day I will be back to order 1 maybe 2
Beautiful guns for sure with a beautiful price tag too. I have to ask though, what value does the Value Added Tax bring, other than the gubment getting their share plus some.
@@Fendermanpaul He was of Cappadocian Greek origin and a member of the Praetorian Guard for Roman emperor Diocletian, but was sentenced to death for refusing to recant his Christian faith.
I was actually talking to my friend the other day and told me that his acquaintance had a set of Purdey’s back in the 70s that he eventually sold for his first farm…
A minimum price tag of £146,000 +VAT and 850hrs to make, equates to c. £172+VAT per hour. Clearly there are material costs to recover within this price but proportionately, this will be a fraction of the overall price. So this makes for an insanely outrageous hourly rate! Move out of London and halve the price for the same superb masterpiece.
Your math assumes that the materials are inconsequential. Have you priced a block of walnut that quality recently? I suspect the actual hourly rate would be more like 100/hr after the dozen or so other overhead costs are deducted, the company takes their cut and the worker gets at most half of that? That seems surprisingly reasonable given the level of skill these craftsmen have worked to achieve
I knew someone who dealt in quality used firearms. An avid shooter who had tried everything out there, I asked him once "Is a Purdey worth it?" He smiled and said "I've been hunting for more than 60 years. Last year a friend invited me quail hunting and I took a Purdey 20 gauge I had in the vault. For the very first time in my life I hit 15 of 15 quail and didn't miss a shot. I'm not going to say it was the gun but I did something I've never done in a period longer than you've been alive. You draw your own opinion."
An initial observation £128,000 side x side with pathetic ejectors! The cartridges appear to eject 3 inches! Ejector timing on the O/U also looks wrong with the bottom barrel a bit advanced so hitting the breach face….I wonder if H&H or Boss do that too? I certainly wouldn’t accept a gun that quality control was so bad! To take out guns for filming that have issues is bad!
@@genghishank1 no I’ve been in the British Gun trade over 30 years and designed guns for some of the worlds most prestigious brands so I know a little bit about what a shotguns should do! Thank you for your consideration
I noticed you going into your natural gun holding position when talking of resting the open gun on our foot then realized what you were holding and thought better of it 😂 again nice chat about a beaut
I'll stick with my mk38 grade 5 , a year of shells, new car, and near pay off a second home plus change 😂, nice but in reality they are aimed at the lords and gentry class who shoot once a year on their massive estate
Very poor timing on the ejectors at 12min 49 sec, could not see any reason why the cartridges were thrown out so unevenly. Most guns costing a hundredth of the price of this new Purdey, would do a lot better.
Still think a Holland & Holland Royal is better. Micro engraving doesn't do it for me. Holland engraving is usually much bolder with more character and soul. This I believe.
Horses for courses...I mean I wouldn't say no to a Purdey, but I am biased as I've got an old Royal - and you can hold up a pre war one next to a modern production and play spot the difference (it'll take you a while though)
If you buy a Purdey you get the style of engraving you personally require. Traditionally there guns were fine rose and scroll, but more bold engraving has become more fashionable these days.
Let's be honest about this .Modern computerised Lazer guided machines can and do make a precise shotgun in a fraction of the time it takes a team of traditional gunsmiths using lamp black X files X screwdrivers X measuring calipers 100of man hours to do So in my estimation the machine wins .Why pay the wages of an old humpy backed gunsmith ,when a machine can do his job better than he can .It dosent have to use lamp black ,or files or screwdrivers .It's programmed for perfection and does perfect every single time .Try telling me a purdy is 20times a better gun than a robotic manufactured Beretta .It's case equal at a fraction of the cost .
Beautiful bang pipes, but I'd take a Longthorne every day of the week. The Purdey just runs way beyond the essential function of a shotgun. If I could afford one, would I drop some cash on one? Honestly? No.........probably....
Even if I had millions (maybe over a lifetime), I could not justify that kind of expenditure on a tool. If I somehow ended up with one, I'd be afraid to use it for it's intended purpose. This is just another symbol for the braggarts of the world, the ones who have lost touch.
Need and wants are two different things... - Ithaca built their last Side-by-side in 1948 (?)... But I agree, they are nice guns. A somewhat local dealer has a nice 4E two barrels set.
I cant be the only one thinking these are just not worth the money... I could have 10 extremely good shotguns for the price of one of these. They are not even that nice to look at. I really dislike the mottled or burnt look on the metal. It looks overly weathered. I could have a custom made Perrazi, a Kregoff, a DT11 etc and all for a fraction of the price of one of these. And 18 months build time for essentially a gun that has not changed in a 100 years... I just dont see the draw of these guns personally.
A very nice presentation of one of the most ''renowned'' gunmakers in the world! With so much change going on today it's still nice to see a staple that has managed to survive! Thank you Jonny for showing us these!
your appreciation of those guns is shared by many, you could sense it in your words, brilliant film and thank you for sharing
I once used the Ferrari/Best gun analogy when chatting with a good friend of mine. His reply was he never had a problem jumping in and driving any of his Ferraris. Nor shooting his best London guns.
I think I was driving a Fiat Panda 4x4 and shooting a Webley 700 at the time.
I have spent less on a house. But I want one of these more. Well done
I think that, if you look closely and without rose-colored glasses, the quality of wood-to-metal fit on any number of old guns from the classic period (including Purdeys) would be better...much better.
Yes you are right
Really good photography, editing, and music. That type of film work could even make an old Citori look good, but with these guns it is true art.
I worked on fitting out there new workshop a few years ago, got to see there build process and various guns at different stages of completion. Was amazing to see the craftsmanship in person.
Their not there
Have to admit, I prefer the side by side! Great video 👍
I’ve had an experience with a 20B 1930’s SxS and it is indeed a feeling difficult to describe. It felt, and handled like nothing else I’d ever had in hand.
Had a friend 30 yrs ago, he worked for Purdeys. He made the stock. Each employee specialises on each section of the gun. After a few years he got a good offer from Holland and Holland and took it
I have a confession- yes- a confession to an addiction to watching this video numerous times !!!!...... What an incredible experience this must have been- to shoot/handle two of the finest Purdeys ever. " Built to a standard- not a price", pretty much sums it up. Just wonderful. Now- time to watch again !!!!
The great quality of these fine guns is that they make the memory of it much better than the actual experience. And that is much, much more important...
I went to the one in London 🤤 it was majestic. I priced two, $190k and $225k, maybe one day…
" They are something else", has to be hard to describe the opportunity to actually shoot- let alone handle a pair of exquisite bespoke guns such as these. You are indeed lucky my friend. Excellent video. You need to do a video of inside Purdey- and share how some of these are created. Thanks again for this video sir.
Well said.
Hi Johnny, what a lovely pair of guns! As normal you're a very lucky man to get to shoot them!!! STUNNING. Malc and Ann Lincs xxx
I visited south Audley st. on a trip to London and it was a lovely experience..got to fit a "try" gun and just take in some of the history about the place...not the German shrapnel imbedded in the walls as you enter the building.
Beauty and function that is well above my pay grade. Thanks for the view - Well done Jonny!
This lad has the impressive collection of caps I’ve ever seen
😂 I am an addict
@@tgsoutdoors Cap raffle you know you want to!
@@tgsoutdoors Johnny's caps are really cool 😎 👌
@@tgsoutdoors The first step is admitting your addiction LOL.
Great video and subject! Looks like Johnny has a new set of shooting glasses with purple lenses.
My dad was a gunsmith and one of his clients brought his Holland and Holland 4 bore goose gun round for a service and testing of some reloadable brass to be machined for him and as I was obsessed with guns at such an early age he seemed to want to feed the obsession and when he came back to collect his gun he gave me a Diana air rifle which was his when he was my age prior to WWI I think the rifle was made in 1908 but his collection of shotguns and rifles was super rare and exotic to say the least .
Purdy sporter for me , would love to have a shot with any of them . 👌 Would you ever do a factory tour of James Purdy ?
They make my Winchester 101 look like a beaten up old Datsun!! What beautiful shotguns.
At least your Winchester 101 that’s 40 years old probably ejects spent cartridges better than these two!
Your Datsun still gets you down the road.
There is a definite "poetry" that one can feel when shooting a Purdey. It is hard to describe. Perhaps one can say that there is an elegant balance to the slender taper of the gun. While it may be difficult to measure exactly what 800 man hours looks like as a finished product , there is an obvious difference that you notice once you shoot it. The trigger system is just much better than most. In my opinion , sidelock triggers are generally more crisp and " acute" than their box lock counterparts. If you compared the triggers of the Purdeys in the video to those in mass produced guns the difference is startlingly noticeable.
Even if I had that kind of money, I doubt that I would splash that kind of cash for what I essentially see as a tool. For a fraction of the price, you could get a pair of AYA number 1s made for yourself. Beautifully made guns just a lot more affordable.
Very nice Jonny 😎💯, very nice indeed - but is it better and nicer than a new Longthorne??
Just beautiful, one of my favorite shotguns.
Simply sublime! One day! Great vid chaps.
Great video! Works of art
When you mentioned "an extra something" it reminded me of an article about hand made items in which the author talked about psychic imprinting which gave the item it's special feel
Amazing what the most skilled craftsmen and artists can accomplish. I could just stand there and admire them as astonishing works of art. How well did they shoot for you? There are fields where performance always trumps appearances. Sportsmen are endlessly searching for a better performing shotgun or set of golf clubs. Envision being able to have a shotgun that is the best performing fine firearm you have ever used replicated by Purdey and finished to their highest standards.
The sound when it closes is completely different than a Miroku. 😂😂
I remember a lot of years ago on a visit to London & purdeys, I walked in & was looking at their guns, a salesman walked up to me & after a conversation, he asked me id I would like to look at a couple of guns, to which I said a big yes, he brought out 2 guns, then left me by myself to admire their beauty & lines, 30 years down & one day I will be back to order 1 maybe 2
So it was well worth him letting you have a good look at them all those years ago ! I did the the same with Boss when they were in Dover street.
Johnny those guns in the sun light are spot on
Was that Ronnie Corbett in the Tweed? Should have took Ants Box for him 🤣🤣🤣
Looking good Steve 👌🏻
Gorgeous! Both of them.
Beautiful guns for sure with a beautiful price tag too.
I have to ask though, what value does the Value Added Tax bring, other than the gubment getting their share plus some.
A great review of something so quintessentially English on St George’s Day
Only, St. George was Turkish/Syrian. 😅
@@Fendermanpaul we are all a hybrid mix nevertheless St George IS the patron saint of England
@@Fendermanpaul He was of Cappadocian Greek origin and a member of the Praetorian Guard for Roman emperor Diocletian, but was sentenced to death for refusing to recant his Christian faith.
Purdey is the king of guns.
Brilliant and when i win lottery. Keep up the good work jonny 👍👍🍻🍻
Absolutely stunning.
That is like purchasing a gold plated hammer with engraved scenes of guys in ballcaps framing a house.
Very very nice gun
I was actually talking to my friend the other day and told me that his acquaintance had a set of Purdey’s back in the 70s that he eventually sold for his first farm…
Side-by-side with hammers. No silly engraving. Just plain.
I can't afford it, but I can day-dream. 😎
A minimum price tag of £146,000 +VAT and 850hrs to make, equates to c. £172+VAT per hour. Clearly there are material costs to recover within this price but proportionately, this will be a fraction of the overall price. So this makes for an insanely outrageous hourly rate! Move out of London and halve the price for the same superb masterpiece.
But then it WOULDN'T be a BEST LONDON GUN. That REALLY matters.
Just took my dog to the vet after a home invasion. He got kicked around. 10 minute check over by a vet cost me 82 bucks. The guns are cheap.
Your math assumes that the materials are inconsequential. Have you priced a block of walnut that quality recently? I suspect the actual hourly rate would be more like 100/hr after the dozen or so other overhead costs are deducted, the company takes their cut and the worker gets at most half of that? That seems surprisingly reasonable given the level of skill these craftsmen have worked to achieve
I knew someone who dealt in quality used firearms. An avid shooter who had tried everything out there, I asked him once "Is a Purdey worth it?" He smiled and said "I've been hunting for more than 60 years. Last year a friend invited me quail hunting and I took a Purdey 20 gauge I had in the vault. For the very first time in my life I hit 15 of 15 quail and didn't miss a shot. I'm not going to say it was the gun but I did something I've never done in a period longer than you've been alive. You draw your own opinion."
An initial observation £128,000 side x side with pathetic ejectors! The cartridges appear to eject 3 inches! Ejector timing on the O/U also looks wrong with the bottom barrel a bit advanced so hitting the breach face….I wonder if H&H or Boss do that too? I certainly wouldn’t accept a gun that quality control was so bad! To take out guns for filming that have issues is bad!
Did Jonny run over your dog or something?
@@genghishank1 no I’ve been in the British Gun trade over 30 years and designed guns for some of the worlds most prestigious brands so I know a little bit about what a shotguns should do! Thank you for your consideration
@@stuartcrane9409 not sure why anyone would keep watching a channel that they’re getting so upset by. Find something more fulfilling to do
My god you really are a moan aren’t you
@@genghishank1 I’m no where near as upset as you appear to be,
Built to a standard not a price... It was Simon wasn't it 🤣🤣🤣
I noticed you going into your natural gun holding position when talking of resting the open gun on our foot then realized what you were holding and thought better of it 😂 again nice chat about a beaut
I'll stick with my mk38 grade 5 , a year of shells, new car, and near pay off a second home plus change 😂, nice but in reality they are aimed at the lords and gentry class who shoot once a year on their massive estate
Or Utility CEOs.😂😂😂😂.
Lovely little guns be afraid to take it out of my safe if i owned these
Lovely
Very poor timing on the ejectors at 12min 49 sec, could not see any reason why the cartridges were thrown out so unevenly. Most guns costing a hundredth of the price of this new Purdey, would do a lot better.
The only thing you’re buying with these is the name. As you are with most super high end guns.
Very weird yh
@@DocHudson420this is bollocks though mate
@@user-cy3zg2fy3nlike how an old British car shouldn't be driven down hill from the mechanics garage?
Your talking rubbish
Can you get them with colour coded extended chokes.😆😈
Gimme that SxS side lock!!!
🔥🔥🔥
Just beautiful
But does it balance on the pin like a Yildiz?
You get a free bottle of Worchestershire sauce with every purchase of one of these guns…. what a bargain….
What beautiful things!! one day 😳👌
Half an hour ago I thought my Prosport was a thing of beauty. Now I've seen this video .... 🤔
I'll never own one, but I'm so glad they exist.
The wood is beautiful but i really don't like the burnt welding like design on the metal
That is called “case color”. It’s a “finish”….but it is a by product of hardening the metal by heating it in a forge fueled by bone charcoal.
Very Nice 💯💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
Board / Sick of your job? Like that could ever happen!
Still not giving up my K-80
As beautiful as a Holland & Holland and Watson Bros
top video
erm, wot happened with the sound design on this vid? it's like a cross between 2CΞLLOS & Jangle Dolewave .... kinda wanted to hear the shot
Still think a Holland & Holland Royal is better. Micro engraving doesn't do it for me. Holland engraving is usually much bolder with more character and soul. This I believe.
Horses for courses...I mean I wouldn't say no to a Purdey, but I am biased as I've got an old Royal - and you can hold up a pre war one next to a modern production and play spot the difference (it'll take you a while though)
If you buy a Purdey you get the style of engraving you personally require. Traditionally there guns were fine rose and scroll, but more bold engraving has become more fashionable these days.
@@paulbird3235 But the tradition is what the whole sport and undertaking are all about!!
Proofhouse TGS??
😬 best cut that out
@@tgsoutdoors wondered if I’d missed something!
Beautiful, beautiful guns, made perfectly by craftsmen as only the English can do it...
Big 3 ?
Purdey
Holland & Holland
Perazzi
Boss not Perazzi
When are you coming to south africa for a (leka) bird hunt
Who's the jockey 😂
K80 😏😏the lock up is a bit like a 😂😂Cynergy
Birds won't know the difference
When I grow up I want to be Johnny Carter!
Stuff of dreams.
I paid 14k for my used k80 and it's the best money I ever spent. sure like them Purdy's
Are you going to trade in your longthornes???
It would be a crime to put these in a cabinet.... of course the price is also a crime....
Damn these 2 guns cost more than my house
Just under £300k! Bloody hell!
Plus vat!
Yesssssss
That IS for both guns though! - so look at them as maybe half price each eh! 🤣🤣
@@dale_ch Ah yeah! Deal me in then 👍just let me sell a kidney first 😂
@@w1zardssleeve just one, or BOTH! Lol
Expensive
Hi
Does tweedl ship worldwide
Because I'm in South Africa 🇿🇦
Tweedl
👍👍💯
Big 3 purdey, holland and holland, rigby???
Boss instead of rigby.
Boss
Hi Johnny. You at masters
Let's be honest about this .Modern computerised Lazer guided machines can and do make a precise shotgun in a fraction of the time it takes a team of traditional gunsmiths using lamp black X files X screwdrivers X measuring calipers 100of man hours to do
So in my estimation the machine wins .Why pay the wages of an old humpy backed gunsmith ,when a machine can do his job better than he can .It dosent have to use lamp black ,or files or screwdrivers .It's programmed for perfection and does perfect every single time .Try telling me a purdy is 20times a better gun than a robotic manufactured Beretta .It's case equal at a fraction of the cost .
A Nikon will make a better likeness than Michelangelo but which would you rather own? 🤷🏽♂️
the first gun you shoot is the most expensive...
Beautiful bang pipes, but I'd take a Longthorne every day of the week. The Purdey just runs way beyond the essential function of a shotgun. If I could afford one, would I drop some cash on one? Honestly? No.........probably....
lets both be honest. If we had the money to get one of these and not end up homeless. Probably would 🤣🤣
@@liamcrabb9065 I'd be more worried about being lifeless if the wife found out 🤣🤣🤣👻
Even if I had millions (maybe over a lifetime), I could not justify that kind of expenditure on a tool. If I somehow ended up with one, I'd be afraid to use it for it's intended purpose. This is just another symbol for the braggarts of the world, the ones who have lost touch.
These are not "a tool" these are a work of art, if you had "millions" you wouldn't have to justify the cost.
👍👍👍👍😉
More than the cost of a small house….for a 2-shot shotgun lol
You could say that about a 2-seat Ferrari.
I am surprised about these short guns... Turkish.... Spanish gun are too fine....all guns fall on bird with one shot....
Hand engraved Ithaca over under is what you need
Need and wants are two different things...
- Ithaca built their last Side-by-side in 1948 (?)... But I agree, they are nice guns. A somewhat local dealer has a nice 4E two barrels set.
I cant be the only one thinking these are just not worth the money... I could have 10 extremely good shotguns for the price of one of these. They are not even that nice to look at. I really dislike the mottled or burnt look on the metal. It looks overly weathered. I could have a custom made Perrazi, a Kregoff, a DT11 etc and all for a fraction of the price of one of these. And 18 months build time for essentially a gun that has not changed in a 100 years... I just dont see the draw of these guns personally.
Yep they are nice but still they aint no Longthorne my good sir.
$380,000USD 😂