I could see the Traveler being quietly surveilled, manipulated, and subtly guided down a favorable path by the Fatui. Then without even realizing it, the Traveler ends up being blamed for a horrible event and is granted the chance to serve the Tsaritsa as a partner when the Traveler is left with no where else to go. *sips depression juice*
Well, If one of our siblings are Fatui and the other is Abyss, Teyvat is basically screwed. We’re literally powerful. We could literally become the next Harbingers and makes powerful plan to destroy Tevat or Take over. But what about Paimon?
Its been a while since I've read his character story but I believe that Diluc has contacts with an underground network that could have a base in Snezhnaya and support an underground rebellion. I can totally see Diluc smuggle us in. Or the Adventurer's Guild could have a much more powerful influence in Snezhnaya since it was founded in Snezhnaya. As an international organization with an android that serves as the face and as a information hub for each branch and is quite possibly a hive mind/inter connected, I would like to believe that their consistent presence will eventually have more relevance in the nation it was founded in.
Plot twist: Katheryne (who I'm pretty sure is a robot) takes us to Snezhnaya, unleashes her true power, and fights the three strongest harbingers at the same time, destroying all of them. Katheryne's powers will be released!! Katheryne? More like Kathewin.
Honestly i'm dying to see the Diluc plot flourish, but as for katheryne, I think she might be connected to the Fatui by association. I doubt the Fatui wouldn't want to control a public organization like the Adventurer's guild, plus Dottore seems like the guy to have robots. Just a hunch
@@ChillwithAster I believe your right about Katheryn but then we have Katheryne giving us Daily commissons of getting rid the Fatui and even telling us reports from other adventurers to where Fatui are stationed so that we can farm them. So i think Every Katheryn in Teyvat might have been broken/hacked by the underground rebellion.
If the Fatui has a hidden motive behind their work in Teyvat. Why not the Traveler? After all the work they’ve done for the other nations, it’s more like a means to an end (if that is the right word...) for the Traveler. (It is honestly sad seeing how much Traveler has done yet only Dainsleif was able to bring us closer to the truth about our Sibling and even about Khaenriah while the rest of the truth we have to look for in our journey) I imagine a dialogue the Traveler would have with the Tsaritsa about her ideal in getting the other Archons’ Gnosis, possibly even opening the mind of the Traveler about more of the truth of this world. Would the Traveler change? Would our morals be shaken? One person has mentioned no matter what side the Traveler lands on, it feels like a gray area, we can’t really say their actions or decisions are wrong or right (at least by our human standards) Just thinking that the Traveler would be in more dire need to fulfill their goal knowing how situation of Teyvat is. (plus that mask suits Aether really well...) About Delusions: Traveler feels like an enigma, seeing how Delusions are mostly dangerous to normal non-vision users like Teppei, I believe Traveler has a higher resistance to the effects of a delusion (more like two forces of power at work such as our Original power vs the Delusion’s seeping dark energy) if Diluc could withstand it manga-wise then I think Traveler can at least once we reach the final chapter, we would have gained a sustainable amount of our power back (unless the seal of the Heavenly Principles is the only thing holding us back) or we get to see a corrupted Traveler? (That’s not impossible too...) QwQ would sweet sweet sister Lumine come to our rescue?
Agreed. The Traveler is trying to find the archon of each nation. Venti is secretive, we need to catch him running away, all our actions are self defense or letting Venti talk to us openly. In Liyue, Zhongli is protecting us from arrest, so we help him back, we also explore a decent amount of Liyue this way. Inazuma, Raiden is right there. While the Traveler obviously feels sorry for Inazumans, after meeting their sibling, they just want to speedrun the world effectively. Talk to Raiden, go to Sumeru is the plan. It makes sense that we turn down Ayaka's call for help at first, we just want to go home. However, seeing the visionless holders makes us want to help them, we also don't know if Raiden will even talk to us with how she treats her subjects, so we need to do something to grab her attention.
The fatui do seem like they will become the true good guys eventually, even if the method they go about it is unethical, the heavenly principals are clearly the true antagonists, and by the time we reach the final region, aka near the end of our journey, I believe the traveller, the Fatui, and the abyss will all join together to wage war against Celestia.
i'm more inclined to thinking that the Traveler is UNDOUBTEDLY going to join the Fatui... but that it will be played entirely for laughs. Much like the Traveler's smuggling themself illegally into Inazuma, it's likely that the Traveler's entrance into Szneznaya will be a collaborative effort between they & multiple friends they have made along the way: heck, it's entirely probable that a character such as Ningguang or Kaeya will ASK (and enable) the Traveler to infiltrate the Fatui as a mutually beneficial operation - the Traveler is able to explore Sneznaya; Kaeya &/or Diluc, Ningguang &/or Tartaglia, Yae Miko &/or Kokomi, Lisa &/or [her Teacher], etc. get Insider Information on What The Actual Heck Is Going On with the Fatui. An International Alliance between the companions & nations of Teyvat designed to enable a Fatui Infiltration is very, very probable - and it has long been foreshadowed that such an operation will occur: the many Paper Thin Disguise incidents in character quests (Eula's, for example) and "accidental wanted fugitive" hide&seek obstacles in Liyue and Inazuma... it's not a question of "WILL the Traveler join the Fatui" but "HOW will the Traveler join the Fatui". a masked Traveler "joining up" as a grunt, working their way up the ranks until they can gain unrestricted access to Szneznaya itself? bad-bad acting where the Traveler Blatantly Lies about a "change of heart" and takes up on Tartaglia's invitation? the Traveler joining forces with a Defecting Harbinger & acting as a "prospective member, here to take in the sights before signing any dotted lines"? i think it VERY unlikely that the Traveler would GENUINELY join the Fatui, let alone accept a Permanent Position as a Harbinger: the Traveler has been consistently wary of committing to Teyvat, dodging romantic inclinations, never "settling" in any one Nation for long, turning down positions of power from the likes of Ningguang & Yae Miko... the Traveler ironically earning the rank "Honorary Harbinger" would be VERY on-brand, less of a betrayal to the other nations & themselves, and serve as a subtle reminder of how terrifying the Traveler appears to the leaders of Teyvat - a strange outlander unwilling to affirm definite affiliation with any single nation, capable of fending off Gods and the god-like, and with a Mysteriously Absent Sibling WITH THE EXACT SAME SKILLSET/POTENTIAL (that "oh gods, there's TWO of them??!" vibe).
It would be funny if the traveler. Gave them the middle finger to their diplomatic ways, for how much they care about the people of each region and the suffering they did. Or when meeting the tsaritsa the traveler double crosses them and doesn't follow through, and just straight up ask's the tsaritsa out right. As a big middle finger for all they did. Like "You've caused suffering for many in teyvat and care little about them. So why should I care about a little contract we made. I'm not zhong LI and I've faced the Raiden shogun. I have no trouble throwing down with you to get what I want"
I think the Traveler will consult Diluc and the Knights before going to Snezhnaya. Diluc has had experience with the Fatui, and is also apart of a massive information guild. So he might be the one the Traveler consults before going to Snezhnaya. The Knights of Favonius are also familiar with the Fatui, given how Kaeya is trying to kiss up to them, probably for information, by lavishly giving them food from Mondstadt and Liyue (see tanuki event).
Just an idea, if the delusions are powered or connected to dead evil gods, what if the traveller can"purify" them like what he did to dvlins blood. maybe a delusion without negative side effects.
They probably could if they wanted to. I think this raises other questions about the purification thing though. In Mondstadt, they purify the dragon tears, with a break in between each. The next time (I believe) it was seen was when they "fixed" the festering desire (not sure if they actually purified it or what, someone let me know). My point is, while the twins may have the power, there doesn't seem to be much practice for it. At least intentionally, considering Xiao "feels better" when he's around. Might be the lack of solid friendship there though 😅 Anyways, the wrath of a dragon and the wrath of several old gods are on two different levels, so the traveler might be too ineffective to really purify anything before the delusion gets to him. Like trying to dam a waterfall with a twig. Despite the relatively recent archon war, there doesn't seem to be too much to practice on...
@@Diamondflower101 aether element=purification Elemental reaction= pyro+purification=every damage given is can buff NA hydro+purification=damage taken will get back to enemy and don't crit cryo+purification= deals aoe damage Anemo+purification=lmao swirl Geo+purification=crystalized but stronger Electro+purification=the damage given was 3x stronger Dendro+purification=can be summon regisvine that attack enemy withing range but will instantly killed if weakspot was staggered
I have a feeling that our MC Traveler will ally themselves with the abyss order along with our sibling. Once we finish our journey and discover the truth of the world, I feel we will agree with our sibling to take down celestial and plunge the world into the abyss (maybe the MC sibling would turn back at the very end) The recent Three Realms event had some dialogue with Enjou where the Traveler emphasizes that he is one of the only people who has never lied to them.
Fatui just got hit hard in Inazuma with the death of Signora and Scaramouche going rogue. In Mondstadt they barely suffer any damage but ended up with great result and in Liyue they're losing reputation but they're mainly successful and Northland bank is still up. But in Inazuma they lost 2 harbingers and yet they barely get any results with the gnosis missing and their delusion business went downhill since the abolishment of the vision hunt decree. They are gonna take serious actions soon to redeem this
I feel like the Fatui are going to very begrudgingly let us into Shneznaya, since we're simply a Traveler, but if we go near any important buildings or anything, like in Inazuma before the third archon quest, we'd be turned away. This might lead us to sneaking in and speaking directly with the Tsaritsa, who of course, expected and was waiting for us. We might be offered alot of privilege and power, but honestly, I don't think Traveler would take it. They might be tricked later one tho, since as we seen in Shenhe's quest, Traveler isn't as all powerful as we think. At that point I think Shneznaya's tech and experimentation on the world would be far ahead, and Dottore might be able to unlock Traveler's true potential, but of course providing a delusion (think a delusion of Abyssal darkness (through Tarts maybe? Taking out/controlling two of the most unstable people would be great) as a counter to the Traveler's light) Dots could also maybe harness that power and either use it himself or give it to the Tsaritsa (maybe create a gnosis which might aid the Tsaritsa in completing her collection or powering up smth to take out the divine)
I think if the fatui did try to drug the traveller childe would act up. Not only that but the national hero of all the nations dissapearing when he entered shenznaya would be a direct act of war and its not unlikely given the travellers relationship with the archons that they may themselves come to help him
@@fivenightsofrandomness9224 XD. BUT the counter acts since katheryne is from shenznaya and the advertures guild HQ is in shnezaya so he would be pissed at shenznaya even more LOL
@@InactiveTwig I can see that, helping nations that resulted in nothing to find your sibling, your only family left from a world long gone. I prefer going straight to the point more than ever
Since we have gotten titles such as: Honorary Knight, Captain of Swordfish 2, Captain of Watatsumi special operations, Honoured guest of the Liyue Qixing and Inazuma, Hero of Mondstat, Liyue, Inazuma and Watatsumi Island. I do think the Tsarista will personally offer us the title of Fatui harbinger.
I actually think the abyss order and the fatui are already working together 1) the corruption of davalin by the abyss directly helped the fatui control mondstat. 2) the random frontal attack by the abyss order on mondstat while the traveler was fighting davalin allowed for the surprise attack on Venti. 3) in both liyue and inazuma there was very little abyss activity. This is probably due to the fatui having a large amount of control in those areas.
One thing I can't understand why venti and zhongli said they don't know traveller's sibling when it is abudantly clear that they have many similarities in how they look and during khenria war abys sibling was a major player so most of the archons should know her.
Zhongli does hint he knows the relation of the sibling to the cataclysm, given he says he can't talk about it in the first place. So either he saw her or the Traveler said more than what was shown to us in the dialogue
At this point.. I think we will just grab?(or willingly get?) some archons gnosis ourself maybe the Pyro Archon? According to teyvat travail It seems she(?) will give us some more information and If the tsaritsa is really trying to rebel against the 'divine' then the Pyro Archon will maybe say the traveller to take the gnosis and bargain with the tsaritsa or something? I mean we already are like an enemy and I doubt they will just let us come in like 'Welcome traveller we hate you, you hate us but whatever anyway welcome'😂 and pretty sure the people below the harbingers wouldn't be able to stand in a fight against the traveller and don't forget that the traveller will have all 7 seven elements so traveller will be pretty strong the fact that we were able to take down two harbingers with two and three elements heck we were able to maintain our grounds against an archon before the traveller got the buff imagine how strong traveller would be with all seven. OR maybe we will show off our connection to get into Snezhnaya 😂 But Hey that's Just a theory...A GAME THEORY (Don't judge me I know my theory is not good lol 💀😂😂)
actually i totally see the pyro archon giving us her gnosis! natlan is the nation of war from what we know from the manga, and i bet the pyro archon is really stubborn, so the fatui will only have her gnosis missing, and the pyro archon might give us hers so that we can be like "hey tsaritsa, im gonna give you the last gnosis you need if you give me info about khanrei'ah,but if you don't give me info i'll eat the gnosis ;)" (or however you spell khanrie'ah it idek tbh)
i have a theory that the traveler could purify delusions so i would love to see more interaction with one esp after that reaction in the delusion factory. i personally adore the idea of going under cover or under the guise of working with the fatui to get to the tsaritsa
It's also interesting when I heard about slimes acting like their archons cause the biggest cryo slime has an ice shield of its own but once you break it, it runs away before coming back to fight you. Does this mean the Tsaritsa has her own "shields"? Cause Zhongli and geo slimes do. Then Electro slimes and Ei both use each other as batteries. While Venti shoots from a distance like Anemo slimes... Then there's the Dendro slimes.
To me the Traveler joining the fatui feels like a betrayal to their friends who’ve hurt by them especially Diluc. I think what might happen is the Traveler infiltrates their ranks and scour all the data they have and once they do, they’ll cripple them and crush all of the gnoses with their hands and then interrogate the Tsaritsa and then leave her to die. In other words it will probably be like Assassin’s Creed.
Personally so against it because I don't want other characters thinking bad of the Traveler for joining the Fatui T-T and the acts they've committed are atrocious. No, hell to the no. Nope. No way.
The traveler joining the Fatui and everyone else feel betrayed make it an interesting story line Im bored with all the characters basically being buddy with eachother, adding some spice with traveler "betrayal" make a refresing air
I have a feeling the fatui have a strong presence in Fontaine with all their advanced technology and fancy fashion and can't wait to meet some new harbingers there
one thing abt the delusions, the traveller has the capability to purify(Dvalin, Dvalin's tear, Festering desire), wont he purify the delusion? yes the magic that he has purified so far has been abyssal magic(which frm the lore that ive understood so far is much different but at the same time very similar), which is the dark magic, but by the time the traveller reaches shneznaya, gets acess to the 7th element, maybe the delusion is smth that actually triggers his abilities, cuz he purifies that magic that gives him back his powers as a God, becuz the main stuff in a delusion is archon residue, so if he purifies it, that means he gains the power of the archons/gods n becomes stronger.. the plot where the Tsaritsa goes as far as to drug the traveler is plausible, but instead of subduing him, it enhances him n brings him back to his full potential, what do u think?
I was considering that but I realized they can dispel Abyssal magic but they were knocked up by the Tatarigami. Strong emotion might have been able to bypass the ability of their purification which is weird because it should be a passive, or they simply can't purify delusions / the material of delusions
@@ChillwithAster hmmm thats tru, cuz even when we play, we get affected by the tataragami, which is a game mechanic... so prolly we cant purify the delusions or can we? maybe even our golden sword cud be smth that brings us back to max potential, n in Kaeya's story quest he mentions of a sword that fell frm celestia, found by his grandfather, so basically in Kanrei'ha.. GI lore is fascinating innit, so many interpretations n possible endings
Only guess I got is after 6 other nations the cryo archon just demands to speak to us directly and first. And when she finds out we're not literally on her door step she'll want a summons and that's when she tells her side. But I think this will be after we see and experience what things are like in her nation and the thoughts of her people
I wonder if because how “independent” the harbingers are I wonder if they wouldn’t even necessarily care. The tsaritza and then might not like the fact we stopped their plans so much but the dead defeating they might see as “well they were just too weak then” and recognize it as the travelers strength instead.
Gosh, you gave me extreme Scaramouche vibes there, when you said "... and it wouldn't be morally and legally right to kill your own [soldiers] now, would it?!"
i think that, to beat the sustainer, the traveler would need EVERY possible power ottainable, including a delusion and the abissal power (that maybe we could get in khaenri'ah or by touching the defiled statue?)
This description is on the Shivada Jade Gemstone "Since you could endure my bitter cold, you must have the desire to burn? "Then, burn away the old world for me." When I first read the description, I had a hunch that it was the Tsaritsa talking to the traveler, since the descriptions in the gemstones are statements from the archons. If this is indeed the Tsaritsa talking to the traveler, then I guess it's an invitation of the Tsaritsa to the traveler to join her? To burn the world for her? to assist her? Or maybe it's my fanfic mind talking but what if it's what the Tsaritsa told the traveler during the traveler's initiation to the fatui? I don't have proof about this one, it's just a hunch :>
"The primary mystery of the game is the nature of khaenriah and the cataclysm" I beg to differ the primary mystery of the game is ....who the heck is paimon...she calls herself a professional teyvat travel guide yet noo one knows of her...
What I think is worth noting is that when the traveller first came to Inazuma, they had no interest in getting involved in the war over the Vision Hunt Decree. Her first and main priority was meeting the archon. So being welcomed with open arms and receiving an initiation to meet the Tsaritsa would probably let her consider it, even if there were conditions attached.
Imagine the gameplay where you have a squad of Fatui agents and Cicin mages and as a traveller you can order them to fight against Abyss mages. That would be pretty cool, wouldn't it?
WHEN we side with them is just as important as *who* we side with. Had we joined them from the beginning, we'd see Mondstadt play out in a way different way. I doubt we would see the death of Signora if we join them before the Inazuma plot (or maybe we will, since she has been annoying us during our whole trial period), we wouldn't take as much part in the Inazuma fight and instead help distribute delusions throughout. We'd have the goal of rescuing the people from The Chasm.... so on and on and on.
I’m just imagining a cool cutscene where the traveler and paimon is stepping into this huge, tall room and all the harbingers land around them in a circle. (Kinda like cayde vs those dudes in destiny) That would be the coolest fight ever.
This path of the story would be interesting, maybe we'll meet Enjou again XD. However, if the traveller joins the Fatui, we'll be under the Tsaritsa, which means we'll officially become the abyss sibling's enemy. It's already clear that there's some tension between the 2 siblings as the traveller has been helping the Archons. Does this mean we're gonna go against the abyss and by proxy, our sibling? I hope that it doesn't happen since it'll make it hard to end the story happily, since if we go back with our sibling, we'd have bad blood with them, but if we fight against our sibling, we might never reconnect with our sibling, our even have to kill them. Either way, things wouldn't turn out very well
What if the Tsarista is working for Aether because Lumine already is steady taking control of Teyvat! Traveller may be forced to assist the Fatui take all the Gnosis unknowingly to help return the power to the him/herself. Your sibling mentions we have time to come together again, maybe this is way to convince your sibling to regain lost memories and power. It's possible the Sustainer of Heavenly Principles is blocking your sibling from helping you gain power, so instead she convinced the Tsaritsa to help you regain strength, even these Harbinger battles are a test to unlock your true power. It's also possible that Traveller is indeed being helped by the Cryo Archon, MC prefers Cryo slimes, and has an increased bias to interacting with Cryo than Pyro. This story is full of twists and turns, and I am assuming not only a Fatui connection but they actually a part of the Abyss as well.
My guess is that we fight a harbinger in every chapter of the story of teyvat , then fight with them to Take down Celestia . That would also explain why mondsat is marked as "Prologue" And not Chapter 1. It is where we get introduced , not starting the story of Genshin Impact. (Also I don't have any Idea about Finding our sibling but I think we might have a solo fight with a god in celestia relating to the story preview when Dainslief said " Defeat me , Command me aside , Show me that you're worthier than I too rescue her"
The only way I can think of the traveler not joining the fatui and being able to explore is cause of Childe (after all he did say he wanted to show us around and we agreed) but anyway love the idea
Let’s go! New Aster vid one of my favorite story teller and theorist. Thank you for always delivering top tier content and it’s honestly clear that you put a lot of thought and that it comes from the heart. Thank you for the great content once more Aster!
Hmmm. Given the Traveler’s proclivities, I feel it’s more likely that the Tsaritsa will end up being won over by the power of love, and become a Traveler Simp similar to the other former antagonist who is an incarnation of the flagship characters of their prior work. Namely, while Kiana’s incarnation lost her power and became a Simp offscreen, Mei’s has become a Simp over the course of Inazuma, I find it likely Bronya’s will become one over the course of the Scheznaya chapter.
YO WHAT IF in the end when the fatiu gets all the gonisi do you think they will need the traveler to will weld the elements inside the pieces I mean we as the traveler are the only one to wield more than one element
I think in the end traveler will use all gnosis that cryo archon gathered and get op asf. Like traveler without any effort controlled 100+ vision during fight with ei. Since he can use vision with much higher effort he should draw power from gnosis to. Traveler is dem op I'm not sure why he isn't using his power to full potential the fact the he can steal any power without any effort at all
I think the Fatui are gonna end up being the Anti Entropy of Genshin, Celestia is Schicksal, and the abyss order is World Serpent. Basically one faction is at first presented as evil, but we come around when a bigger threat comes. Its the other two factions that are the threat.
Part of me thinks that at least one of the bigger moral issues with joining the fatui will be glossed over or completely ignored for the sake of keeping the story going. That said, I'd be happy if they found a way to circumvent this
What if gaining a delusion unleashes something dark in the Traveler? What if some situation happens where we have to fight our own Traveler? Maybe the one we use to fight them might even be the Abyss sibling who would respond to their twin's agony! That would be a plot twist. I would personally cry if I have to fight my Traveler. 🥲
You have such an enthralling way of articulating your thoughts… Great job! I'm writing a fic/novel about Genshin that would run parallel to the game story, so I'm looking for insights such as the ones you provided. If you have any other ideas about what to make of the future chapters please let me know. Thank you!
Aster: theorizing about potentail moral stand points and pro-cons Me: memeing about moraless Traveller I really like the idea of the Traveller getting manipulated though, or maybe them just getting tired of always having to clean up after the other nations problems. The Travellers in game dialouge has become more and more impatient even straight up refusing to help sometimes, seems like they are getting a bit annoyed at being sent around in an endless circle of side quests, either way some players are certainly getting antsy about it.
Is it possible for you to do any videos on Varka, the grandmaster of the Knights of Favonius? Idk how much info there is about him. My friend believes that he either 1. Became a harbinger to infiltrate them, or 2. He was corrupted by the Abyss. What do you think?
at least from what i remember, varka is supposed to be on an expedition in the mare jivari with the rest of mondstadt's cavalry. although him joining the fatui is interesting, i think we'll meet him in natlan (since the mare jivari is there)
I think that the traveler could spy on the fatui. I dunno how this would work though or where it could take place (Mabye Snezhnaya?). But doing this, the traveller could find information about the fatui that hasn't been mentioned in the game.
It’d be nice if Mihoyo makes a decision major plot where the traveler becomes a fatui harbinger. The story ending then has numerous conclusions making the story more diverse.
I think we will be left with only 8 harbingers because I believe they are the chess pawns and Hoyoverse showed with La Signora that they can and will kill harbingers if they so desire. I've mentioned this on reddit, but I will rephrase it: I believe the Tsaritsa is the king piece, because not only is it quite ironic since she is a queen (and Barbatos had that piece), but because she orders the pawns to do her biding and the king piece is not captured in chess but killed instead, in my own experience at least. This all has to do with the chess pieces representing a gnosis, and one of Tartaglia's voice lines during the conversations between La Signora and Zhongli ("You played me like a pawn"). However, this leaves the question: if the Tsaritsa is the king gnosis, which piece is missing? We have only 7 archons, after all.
it's interesting that if we become the 12th fatui harbinger how much primogems will we get? l mean l am not joining it if they are not paying us as much or more than story quests :D
Soon they might give us a story choice Where you either join the fatui Or join the knights instead Ill go with knights Who knows Maybe some people might choose the fatui's side cuz childe's there
Maybe the ice Archon is ignorant to all the horrible things they’ve done. Maybe she just has guidelines and a set mission statement and that’s it. Maybe like Ei she’s out of touch. Maybe we won’t join the Fatui but we will join her in her ideals and her grand mission. I hope they break the mold of only introducing archons when there location comes out. I’d like to know more sooner.
what if mihoyo decides to have two endings - let us decide to join abyss or fatui? Also, I’ve always found the ease of getting gnoses weird. Venti gets kicked by a mortal? Zhongli gets scammed? Give me a break. I’d vager the gods actually look for an excuse to help the fatui - without breaking their contracts with celestia.
So we’re going with Genshin What If’s? Cool. Here are my suggestions: *- What if Aether woke up first?* *- What if Ganyu joined the Yaksha?* *- What if Hu Tao joined the Fatui?* *- What if Miko make use the Gnosis’ power instead of giving it to Scaramouche?* *- What if Fischl/Amy WAS from another world, or in other words: a GOD?* *- What if Keqing retired from the Liyue Qixing and joined the KOF?* *- What if Ayaka learned Musou No Hitotachi?* *- What if Childe/Signora won against Aether?*
*waitwaitwaitwaitwai WAIT!!!!!......keqing joining the kof?....by kof do you mean THE KOF????........like the one with K, Kula, Athena, Iori, Kyo, Ralph, King, Mai, Teddy etc?*
Anyone thinks by the time we get to the fatui homeland that the spirits themselves would try to recruit us. I mean by that point we might be back to full power and she might see us as an actual meaningful ally or weapon against celestia. She might even give in to any of our demands once it leads to us helping her over throw celestial.
I'll comment the long version soon here's the short version. I mostly learned this from my Art History class. Another one: Did you know in Derveni Papyrus. Zeus ate the first born king Phanes. So, in Greek mythology Zeus is known as a Demiurge. A Demiurge is a title to an arrogant god. We might have an actual Demiurge. When someone dies in Greek, they turn them into constellations. So, the question is... IS everyone in Teyvat dead? SO many questions!: Is the sky the abyss? Is Celestia below Teyvat? Is the flying island just Garden of Eden or in game the Garden of the Gods? Ascending let's you escape to the real world (Honkai)? Is Paimon the Second Who Came? Celestia is Fake? Apollo the father of Asclepius is after Zeus after Zeus killed him? Apollo killed the Guardian of Delphi the snake? Apollo killed it to save his mother Leto. The Temple of Apollo is in Delphi. Another one: Garden of Eden was created by another Demiurge named Yaldabaoth (Yahweh, Jehovah, Saklas in Hebrew the Fool, or Samael the Blind God) Another one: There's the Seven Serpents of Aztec Mythology. One of the Serpents is Quetzalcoatl. In Ancient Greek Serpents are known as "Medieval-style Dragons". But, what's weird is and why I hate Mihoyo. They're mixing multiple myths, which makes it harder to connect all of them by myself. Another one: Where Satan (the Dragon) sat on the throne for 7 days = 700 years, because the God felt pity for him. Satan (the Dragon) made everything I mean everything. Until, the Archangel Michael and his army fought against Satan (the Dragon). After Archangel Michael and his army beat Satan (the Dragon) and his Angels fell onto Earth. Another one: Gnosis = Knowledge, or Insight in Ancient Greek. Gnosis is needed to reach the God of Transcendence. Another one: Seven fires prophecy is an Anishinaabe prophecy. The Seven Rays, which are, Sushumna, Harikesa, Viswakarman, Viswatryarchas, Sannaddha, Sarvavasu and Swaraj. The Seven Planetary Logos Gabriel (Moon), Raphael (Mercury), Uriel (Venus), Michael (Sun), Samael (Mars), Zachariel (Jupiter), Orifiel (Saturn). Yaldabaoth created multiple planets.
i'm sorry it's been bothering me a while now, watching your latest videos. Why do you say the SHHH shound when saying ASSUME, but in every other word where the same sound is used, you say it normally? D:
Because I watched the show, "The Owl House", I just came up with a random scenario or some garbage. I don't think you're gonna understand the future writing (which there is A LOT and you probably won't be able to know what I mean by just skimming & scanning through the text), unless you watched TOH. So yk Lilith, she was thinking of ways to capture Eda and force her to join the Emperor's coven? Like, Belos is pure evil, I love Belos' character so much that I wanna punch him where it hurts. Anyways, Eda's apprentice, Luz, is probably one of the only connections she has, which makes me think of Aether and Paimon. Could the Fatui capture a "Flying pet" and blackmail Aether to join the Fatui? Remember how Lilith called Luz "Eda's human pet"? This is strangely lining up. Except, Belos scammed Lilith and Belos literally tried to kill Eda. Which, makes Belos' character even more powerful. The way Belos died, there was a literal god who transformed him into 'goolos'. I don't think the Fatui are gonna try to kill Aether, though. Aether doesn't really have connections for long, as he is a traveler, so that would make sense. Your idea of surveillance actually makes me think of Raine and Terra. Besides Belos, I think Terra is the biggest threat until the end of season 2. Terra literally tried to brainwash Raine, which failed, because Raine is apart of the Bard coven so he changed the properties of Terra's tea with sound waves. That made me think, what if Aether didn't need surveillance? He just needed to be brainwashed. But then again, Belos literally has an entire army. Couldn't he just use it to apprehend Eda and Luz? And the Tsaritsa also has a literal army. Hmmm... Ik most of y'all probably won't take your time to read it, but, The Owl House is a really good show and you should watch it to become more big brain. It's only available on Disney+ I think. Sorry y'all if I'm advertising this, I swear I'm not. Edit: I'm just thinking the Tsaritsa pulling a Warden Wrath on Aether, literally. Ik it's definitely not gonna happen but I think it would be so goofy if someone actually made that. I don't think there are a lot of genshin players who actually watched TOH. Edit #2: I think it would be better to say that Luz is Aether (It would makes sense, since Luz is a human inside a world of demons and witches, like Aether, who is from another world of even outer space, in a world of humans and mortals.) and Eda is Paimon (This makes more sense because Eda is Luz's mentor. Even in a voiceline, Paimon says that the traveler is her younger sibling, as Aether does almost everything for Paimon, like how Luz's first few weeks or days of being Eda's apprentice, Eda told Luz to run some errands for her.) Also, I love this line. 9:07
the Tsarita is an idiot if she's not gonna try to recruit the Traveler. we beat two of her Harbingers in a duel, and we're continuously beating down every Fatui we see. she should explain herself to us earlier than Chapter 6 or else, a big misunderstanding would happen where we will defeat her and her goals, only for us to realize that the Tsarita's cause is actually the most beneficial for Teyvat
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I could see the Traveler being quietly surveilled, manipulated, and subtly guided down a favorable path by the Fatui. Then without even realizing it, the Traveler ends up being blamed for a horrible event and is granted the chance to serve the Tsaritsa as a partner when the Traveler is left with no where else to go. *sips depression juice*
"Partner..." Wait... PARTNER?!
@@jpa_crypto wouldn’t be surprised since everyone is shipped with the traveler
y'all do realize people can be called partners without it being romantic-
@@virignek9879 I think it’s better to word it as
Ally instead
@@I.needed_a.handle_name well- true
I think the Traveler will form his own faction that is aligned with the Fatui and the Abyss Order's interest and unite everyone under themselves.
It think this is most likely to happen.
And then get nuked by Celestia
@@Reaper2410 Not with the power of friendship display they did.
"same enemy means we are friends temporarily?" I mean we got power of friendship , power of enemyship?
Building new faction like in Tokyo Ghoul. I like your theory.
Well, If one of our siblings are Fatui and the other is Abyss, Teyvat is basically screwed. We’re literally powerful. We could literally become the next Harbingers and makes powerful plan to destroy Tevat or Take over.
But what about Paimon?
Theres theories that believe the fatui doesnt want to destroy teyvat but save it and fight celestia (who is supposed to be the true villain)
People say paimon is extremely powerful and her powers are sealed, what if she unseals her powers and works with the traveler
@@gunpw7135 not a theory, that's literally the where the plot is going towards
I hope paimon doesn't meet some mad scientists there:
Paimon was secretly the main protagonist
Its been a while since I've read his character story but I believe that Diluc has contacts with an underground network that could have a base in Snezhnaya and support an underground rebellion. I can totally see Diluc smuggle us in.
Or the Adventurer's Guild could have a much more powerful influence in Snezhnaya since it was founded in Snezhnaya. As an international organization with an android that serves as the face and as a information hub for each branch and is quite possibly a hive mind/inter connected, I would like to believe that their consistent presence will eventually have more relevance in the nation it was founded in.
Plot twist: Katheryne (who I'm pretty sure is a robot) takes us to Snezhnaya, unleashes her true power, and fights the three strongest harbingers at the same time, destroying all of them. Katheryne's powers will be released!!
Katheryne? More like Kathewin.
Honestly i'm dying to see the Diluc plot flourish, but as for katheryne, I think she might be connected to the Fatui by association. I doubt the Fatui wouldn't want to control a public organization like the Adventurer's guild, plus Dottore seems like the guy to have robots. Just a hunch
@@ChillwithAster I believe your right about Katheryn but then we have Katheryne giving us Daily commissons of getting rid the Fatui and even telling us reports from other adventurers to where Fatui are stationed so that we can farm them. So i think Every Katheryn in Teyvat might have been broken/hacked by the underground rebellion.
@@ChillwithAster but honestly the fatui cannot control traveller true form because it's sealed lol
@@ChillwithAster I mean how will they control his power if his true power is sealed tho
If the Fatui has a hidden motive behind their work in Teyvat. Why not the Traveler? After all the work they’ve done for the other nations, it’s more like a means to an end (if that is the right word...) for the Traveler. (It is honestly sad seeing how much Traveler has done yet only Dainsleif was able to bring us closer to the truth about our Sibling and even about Khaenriah while the rest of the truth we have to look for in our journey) I imagine a dialogue the Traveler would have with the Tsaritsa about her ideal in getting the other Archons’ Gnosis, possibly even opening the mind of the Traveler about more of the truth of this world. Would the Traveler change? Would our morals be shaken? One person has mentioned no matter what side the Traveler lands on, it feels like a gray area, we can’t really say their actions or decisions are wrong or right (at least by our human standards) Just thinking that the Traveler would be in more dire need to fulfill their goal knowing how situation of Teyvat is. (plus that mask suits Aether really well...)
About Delusions:
Traveler feels like an enigma, seeing how Delusions are mostly dangerous to normal non-vision users like Teppei, I believe Traveler has a higher resistance to the effects of a delusion (more like two forces of power at work such as our Original power vs the Delusion’s seeping dark energy) if Diluc could withstand it manga-wise then I think Traveler can at least once we reach the final chapter, we would have gained a sustainable amount of our power back (unless the seal of the Heavenly Principles is the only thing holding us back) or we get to see a corrupted Traveler? (That’s not impossible too...) QwQ would sweet sweet sister Lumine come to our rescue?
Agreed. The Traveler is trying to find the archon of each nation. Venti is secretive, we need to catch him running away, all our actions are self defense or letting Venti talk to us openly. In Liyue, Zhongli is protecting us from arrest, so we help him back, we also explore a decent amount of Liyue this way. Inazuma, Raiden is right there. While the Traveler obviously feels sorry for Inazumans, after meeting their sibling, they just want to speedrun the world effectively. Talk to Raiden, go to Sumeru is the plan. It makes sense that we turn down Ayaka's call for help at first, we just want to go home. However, seeing the visionless holders makes us want to help them, we also don't know if Raiden will even talk to us with how she treats her subjects, so we need to do something to grab her attention.
I could see the traveler joining especially near the end of their journey. (maybe even the abyss)
Enjou was very persuasive
The fatui do seem like they will become the true good guys eventually, even if the method they go about it is unethical, the heavenly principals are clearly the true antagonists, and by the time we reach the final region, aka near the end of our journey, I believe the traveller, the Fatui, and the abyss will all join together to wage war against Celestia.
i'm more inclined to thinking that the Traveler is UNDOUBTEDLY going to join the Fatui... but that it will be played entirely for laughs.
Much like the Traveler's smuggling themself illegally into Inazuma, it's likely that the Traveler's entrance into Szneznaya will be a collaborative effort between they & multiple friends they have made along the way: heck, it's entirely probable that a character such as Ningguang or Kaeya will ASK (and enable) the Traveler to infiltrate the Fatui as a mutually beneficial operation - the Traveler is able to explore Sneznaya; Kaeya &/or Diluc, Ningguang &/or Tartaglia, Yae Miko &/or Kokomi, Lisa &/or [her Teacher], etc. get Insider Information on What The Actual Heck Is Going On with the Fatui.
An International Alliance between the companions & nations of Teyvat designed to enable a Fatui Infiltration is very, very probable - and it has long been foreshadowed that such an operation will occur: the many Paper Thin Disguise incidents in character quests (Eula's, for example) and "accidental wanted fugitive" hide&seek obstacles in Liyue and Inazuma... it's not a question of "WILL the Traveler join the Fatui" but "HOW will the Traveler join the Fatui".
a masked Traveler "joining up" as a grunt, working their way up the ranks until they can gain unrestricted access to Szneznaya itself? bad-bad acting where the Traveler Blatantly Lies about a "change of heart" and takes up on Tartaglia's invitation? the Traveler joining forces with a Defecting Harbinger & acting as a "prospective member, here to take in the sights before signing any dotted lines"?
i think it VERY unlikely that the Traveler would GENUINELY join the Fatui, let alone accept a Permanent Position as a Harbinger: the Traveler has been consistently wary of committing to Teyvat, dodging romantic inclinations, never "settling" in any one Nation for long, turning down positions of power from the likes of Ningguang & Yae Miko... the Traveler ironically earning the rank "Honorary Harbinger" would be VERY on-brand, less of a betrayal to the other nations & themselves, and serve as a subtle reminder of how terrifying the Traveler appears to the leaders of Teyvat - a strange outlander unwilling to affirm definite affiliation with any single nation, capable of fending off Gods and the god-like, and with a Mysteriously Absent Sibling WITH THE EXACT SAME SKILLSET/POTENTIAL (that "oh gods, there's TWO of them??!" vibe).
It would be funny if the traveler. Gave them the middle finger to their diplomatic ways, for how much they care about the people of each region and the suffering they did. Or when meeting the tsaritsa the traveler double crosses them and doesn't follow through, and just straight up ask's the tsaritsa out right. As a big middle finger for all they did. Like "You've caused suffering for many in teyvat and care little about them. So why should I care about a little contract we made. I'm not zhong LI and I've faced the Raiden shogun. I have no trouble throwing down with you to get what I want"
I think the Traveler will consult Diluc and the Knights before going to Snezhnaya. Diluc has had experience with the Fatui, and is also apart of a massive information guild. So he might be the one the Traveler consults before going to Snezhnaya. The Knights of Favonius are also familiar with the Fatui, given how Kaeya is trying to kiss up to them, probably for information, by lavishly giving them food from Mondstadt and Liyue (see tanuki event).
Just an idea, if the delusions are powered or connected to dead evil gods, what if the traveller can"purify" them like what he did to dvlins blood. maybe a delusion without negative side effects.
They probably could if they wanted to. I think this raises other questions about the purification thing though. In Mondstadt, they purify the dragon tears, with a break in between each. The next time (I believe) it was seen was when they "fixed" the festering desire (not sure if they actually purified it or what, someone let me know).
My point is, while the twins may have the power, there doesn't seem to be much practice for it. At least intentionally, considering Xiao "feels better" when he's around. Might be the lack of solid friendship there though 😅
Anyways, the wrath of a dragon and the wrath of several old gods are on two different levels, so the traveler might be too ineffective to really purify anything before the delusion gets to him. Like trying to dam a waterfall with a twig. Despite the relatively recent archon war, there doesn't seem to be too much to practice on...
@@Diamondflower101 aether element=purification
Elemental reaction= pyro+purification=every damage given is can buff NA hydro+purification=damage taken will get back to enemy and don't crit cryo+purification= deals aoe damage
Anemo+purification=lmao swirl
Geo+purification=crystalized but stronger
Electro+purification=the damage given was 3x stronger
Dendro+purification=can be summon regisvine that attack enemy withing range but will instantly killed if weakspot was staggered
I have a feeling that our MC Traveler will ally themselves with the abyss order along with our sibling. Once we finish our journey and discover the truth of the world, I feel we will agree with our sibling to take down celestial and plunge the world into the abyss (maybe the MC sibling would turn back at the very end) The recent Three Realms event had some dialogue with Enjou where the Traveler emphasizes that he is one of the only people who has never lied to them.
Well, this theory died on the new patch
@F.B.I and I am glad about it. Abyss Sib really has a bad insight on things.
Fatui just got hit hard in Inazuma with the death of Signora and Scaramouche going rogue. In Mondstadt they barely suffer any damage but ended up with great result and in Liyue they're losing reputation but they're mainly successful and Northland bank is still up. But in Inazuma they lost 2 harbingers and yet they barely get any results with the gnosis missing and their delusion business went downhill since the abolishment of the vision hunt decree. They are gonna take serious actions soon to redeem this
Jesus you were right
**cough cough** False god **cough cough**
@@whoneedsaname which drives op's point even further
I feel like the Fatui are going to very begrudgingly let us into Shneznaya, since we're simply a Traveler, but if we go near any important buildings or anything, like in Inazuma before the third archon quest, we'd be turned away.
This might lead us to sneaking in and speaking directly with the Tsaritsa, who of course, expected and was waiting for us. We might be offered alot of privilege and power, but honestly, I don't think Traveler would take it. They might be tricked later one tho, since as we seen in Shenhe's quest, Traveler isn't as all powerful as we think.
At that point I think Shneznaya's tech and experimentation on the world would be far ahead, and Dottore might be able to unlock Traveler's true potential, but of course providing a delusion (think a delusion of Abyssal darkness (through Tarts maybe? Taking out/controlling two of the most unstable people would be great) as a counter to the Traveler's light) Dots could also maybe harness that power and either use it himself or give it to the Tsaritsa (maybe create a gnosis which might aid the Tsaritsa in completing her collection or powering up smth to take out the divine)
I think if the fatui did try to drug the traveller childe would act up. Not only that but the national hero of all the nations dissapearing when he entered shenznaya would be a direct act of war and its not unlikely given the travellers relationship with the archons that they may themselves come to help him
It's all fun and games till the traveller snaps and willingly joins the fatui
@@InactiveTwig snaps from what?
@@halasyamv3190 daily commissions
@@fivenightsofrandomness9224 XD. BUT the counter acts since katheryne is from shenznaya and the advertures guild HQ is in shnezaya so he would be pissed at shenznaya even more LOL
@@InactiveTwig I can see that, helping nations that resulted in nothing to find your sibling, your only family left from a world long gone. I prefer going straight to the point more than ever
Since we have gotten titles such as: Honorary Knight, Captain of Swordfish 2, Captain of Watatsumi special operations, Honoured guest of the Liyue Qixing and Inazuma, Hero of Mondstat, Liyue, Inazuma and Watatsumi Island. I do think the Tsarista will personally offer us the title of Fatui harbinger.
I actually think the abyss order and the fatui are already working together
1) the corruption of davalin by the abyss directly helped the fatui control mondstat.
2) the random frontal attack by the abyss order on mondstat while the traveler was fighting davalin allowed for the surprise attack on Venti.
3) in both liyue and inazuma there was very little abyss activity. This is probably due to the fatui having a large amount of control in those areas.
One thing I can't understand why venti and zhongli said they don't know traveller's sibling when it is abudantly clear that they have many similarities in how they look and during khenria war abys sibling was a major player so most of the archons should know her.
Zhongli does hint he knows the relation of the sibling to the cataclysm, given he says he can't talk about it in the first place. So either he saw her or the Traveler said more than what was shown to us in the dialogue
At this point.. I think we will just grab?(or willingly get?) some archons gnosis ourself maybe the Pyro Archon? According to teyvat travail It seems she(?) will give us some more information and If the tsaritsa is really trying to rebel against the 'divine' then the Pyro Archon will maybe say the traveller to take the gnosis and bargain with the tsaritsa or something? I mean we already are like an enemy and I doubt they will just let us come in like 'Welcome traveller we hate you, you hate us but whatever anyway welcome'😂 and pretty sure the people below the harbingers wouldn't be able to stand in a fight against the traveller and don't forget that the traveller will have all 7 seven elements so traveller will be pretty strong the fact that we were able to take down two harbingers with two and three elements heck we were able to maintain our grounds against an archon before the traveller got the buff imagine how strong traveller would be with all seven. OR maybe we will show off our connection to get into Snezhnaya 😂 But Hey that's Just a theory...A GAME THEORY
(Don't judge me I know my theory is not good lol 💀😂😂)
actually i totally see the pyro archon giving us her gnosis! natlan is the nation of war from what we know from the manga, and i bet the pyro archon is really stubborn, so the fatui will only have her gnosis missing, and the pyro archon might give us hers so that we can be like "hey tsaritsa, im gonna give you the last gnosis you need if you give me info about khanrei'ah,but if you don't give me info i'll eat the gnosis ;)" (or however you spell khanrie'ah it idek tbh)
@@deninin Lmao eat the gnosis
i have a theory that the traveler could purify delusions so i would love to see more interaction with one esp after that reaction in the delusion factory. i personally adore the idea of going under cover or under the guise of working with the fatui to get to the tsaritsa
It's also interesting when I heard about slimes acting like their archons cause the biggest cryo slime has an ice shield of its own but once you break it, it runs away before coming back to fight you. Does this mean the Tsaritsa has her own "shields"? Cause Zhongli and geo slimes do. Then Electro slimes and Ei both use each other as batteries. While Venti shoots from a distance like Anemo slimes... Then there's the Dendro slimes.
To me the Traveler joining the fatui feels like a betrayal to their friends who’ve hurt by them especially Diluc.
I think what might happen is the Traveler infiltrates their ranks and scour all the data they have and once they do, they’ll cripple them and crush all of the gnoses with their hands and then interrogate the Tsaritsa and then leave her to die.
In other words it will probably be like Assassin’s Creed.
After what the fatui do to teppei, no way traveller gonna join their rank. Well maybe if scaramoche are dead, we could change our mind.
We will never forget teppei
Personally so against it because I don't want other characters thinking bad of the Traveler for joining the Fatui T-T and the acts they've committed are atrocious. No, hell to the no. Nope. No way.
The traveler joining the Fatui and everyone else feel betrayed make it an interesting story line
Im bored with all the characters basically being buddy with eachother, adding some spice with traveler "betrayal" make a refresing air
Fatui: We know about your Sister/Brother
The Traveler: Say no more, I m with you!
I'm more convinced that when we reach schneznaya we'll end being attacked by Fatui at almost every step.
imagine a continuous boss fight where we fight through all harbringers
@@bluefenneris9009 sounds like a way to farm artifacts
@@bluefenneris9009 must be fun for childe main with many number in their screen and sucrose taser main.
I have a feeling the fatui have a strong presence in Fontaine with all their advanced technology and fancy fashion and can't wait to meet some new harbingers there
Tsaritsa: " traveller long have i waited for your arrival, now burn and destroy the old world for me as i proclaim you as harbinger zero"
one thing abt the delusions, the traveller has the capability to purify(Dvalin, Dvalin's tear, Festering desire), wont he purify the delusion? yes the magic that he has purified so far has been abyssal magic(which frm the lore that ive understood so far is much different but at the same time very similar), which is the dark magic, but by the time the traveller reaches shneznaya, gets acess to the 7th element, maybe the delusion is smth that actually triggers his abilities, cuz he purifies that magic that gives him back his powers as a God, becuz the main stuff in a delusion is archon residue, so if he purifies it, that means he gains the power of the archons/gods n becomes stronger.. the plot where the Tsaritsa goes as far as to drug the traveler is plausible, but instead of subduing him, it enhances him n brings him back to his full potential, what do u think?
I was considering that but I realized they can dispel Abyssal magic but they were knocked up by the Tatarigami. Strong emotion might have been able to bypass the ability of their purification which is weird because it should be a passive, or they simply can't purify delusions / the material of delusions
@@ChillwithAster hmmm thats tru, cuz even when we play, we get affected by the tataragami, which is a game mechanic... so prolly we cant purify the delusions or can we? maybe even our golden sword cud be smth that brings us back to max potential, n in Kaeya's story quest he mentions of a sword that fell frm celestia, found by his grandfather, so basically in Kanrei'ha.. GI lore is fascinating innit, so many interpretations n possible endings
Only guess I got is after 6 other nations the cryo archon just demands to speak to us directly and first. And when she finds out we're not literally on her door step she'll want a summons and that's when she tells her side. But I think this will be after we see and experience what things are like in her nation and the thoughts of her people
I wonder if because how “independent” the harbingers are I wonder if they wouldn’t even necessarily care. The tsaritza and then might not like the fact we stopped their plans so much but the dead defeating they might see as “well they were just too weak then” and recognize it as the travelers strength instead.
Imagine if we meet Pierro in Sumeru in a way and he asks us to join fatui like he met Signora, Kunikuzushi and Childe
Gosh, you gave me extreme Scaramouche vibes there, when you said "... and it wouldn't be morally and legally right to kill your own [soldiers] now, would it?!"
i think that, to beat the sustainer, the traveler would need EVERY possible power ottainable, including a delusion and the abissal power (that maybe we could get in khaenri'ah or by touching the defiled statue?)
This description is on the Shivada Jade Gemstone "Since you could endure my bitter cold, you must have the desire to burn?
"Then, burn away the old world for me."
When I first read the description, I had a hunch that it was the Tsaritsa talking to the traveler, since the descriptions in the gemstones are statements from the archons. If this is indeed the Tsaritsa talking to the traveler, then I guess it's an invitation of the Tsaritsa to the traveler to join her? To burn the world for her? to assist her? Or maybe it's my fanfic mind talking but what if it's what the Tsaritsa told the traveler during the traveler's initiation to the fatui?
I don't have proof about this one, it's just a hunch :>
"The primary mystery of the game is the nature of khaenriah and the cataclysm"
I beg to differ the primary mystery of the game is ....who the heck is paimon...she calls herself a professional teyvat travel guide yet noo one knows of her...
What I think is worth noting is that when the traveller first came to Inazuma, they had no interest in getting involved in the war over the Vision Hunt Decree. Her first and main priority was meeting the archon. So being welcomed with open arms and receiving an initiation to meet the Tsaritsa would probably let her consider it, even if there were conditions attached.
Imagine the gameplay where you have a squad of Fatui agents and Cicin mages and as a traveller you can order them to fight against Abyss mages. That would be pretty cool, wouldn't it?
13:14
The Betrayal of Other Characters
The traveler: I GOT TO PUT ME FIRST!!!
WHEN we side with them is just as important as *who* we side with. Had we joined them from the beginning, we'd see Mondstadt play out in a way different way. I doubt we would see the death of Signora if we join them before the Inazuma plot (or maybe we will, since she has been annoying us during our whole trial period), we wouldn't take as much part in the Inazuma fight and instead help distribute delusions throughout. We'd have the goal of rescuing the people from The Chasm.... so on and on and on.
I’m just imagining a cool cutscene where the traveler and paimon is stepping into this huge, tall room and all the harbingers land around them in a circle. (Kinda like cayde vs those dudes in destiny) That would be the coolest fight ever.
Would be cool if suddenly traveler take out 2 dessert eagle and cross it to his finger like dante.
“We have you cornered 8 to 1”
Traveler: “I like those odds”
Wake up babe, new fatui video just dropped
Still waiting for answer on what Kaeya's motive to held a huge party with the Fatui on Mondstadt. 😤
Sameeee
This path of the story would be interesting, maybe we'll meet Enjou again XD. However, if the traveller joins the Fatui, we'll be under the Tsaritsa, which means we'll officially become the abyss sibling's enemy. It's already clear that there's some tension between the 2 siblings as the traveller has been helping the Archons. Does this mean we're gonna go against the abyss and by proxy, our sibling? I hope that it doesn't happen since it'll make it hard to end the story happily, since if we go back with our sibling, we'd have bad blood with them, but if we fight against our sibling, we might never reconnect with our sibling, our even have to kill them. Either way, things wouldn't turn out very well
What if the Tsarista is working for Aether because Lumine already is steady taking control of Teyvat! Traveller may be forced to assist the Fatui take all the Gnosis unknowingly to help return the power to the him/herself. Your sibling mentions we have time to come together again, maybe this is way to convince your sibling to regain lost memories and power. It's possible the Sustainer of Heavenly Principles is blocking your sibling from helping you gain power, so instead she convinced the Tsaritsa to help you regain strength, even these Harbinger battles are a test to unlock your true power. It's also possible that Traveller is indeed being helped by the Cryo Archon, MC prefers Cryo slimes, and has an increased bias to interacting with Cryo than Pyro. This story is full of twists and turns, and I am assuming not only a Fatui connection but they actually a part of the Abyss as well.
My guess is that we fight a harbinger in every chapter of the story of teyvat , then fight with them to Take down Celestia . That would also explain why mondsat is marked as "Prologue" And not Chapter 1. It is where we get introduced , not starting the story of Genshin Impact. (Also I don't have any Idea about Finding our sibling but I think we might have a solo fight with a god in celestia relating to the story preview when Dainslief said " Defeat me , Command me aside , Show me that you're worthier than I too rescue her"
If we join the fatui theyre gonna need a big justification to fight the fatui. Maybe they got corrupted by celestia and got powered up or smth
The only way I can think of the traveler not joining the fatui and being able to explore is cause of Childe (after all he did say he wanted to show us around and we agreed) but anyway love the idea
Let’s go! New Aster vid one of my favorite story teller and theorist. Thank you for always delivering top tier content and it’s honestly clear that you put a lot of thought and that it comes from the heart. Thank you for the great content once more Aster!
Hmmm.
Given the Traveler’s proclivities, I feel it’s more likely that the Tsaritsa will end up being won over by the power of love, and become a Traveler Simp similar to the other former antagonist who is an incarnation of the flagship characters of their prior work.
Namely, while Kiana’s incarnation lost her power and became a Simp offscreen, Mei’s has become a Simp over the course of Inazuma, I find it likely Bronya’s will become one over the course of the Scheznaya chapter.
Traveler, Dainslaif, tsaritsa and her fatui. were on same side, Human side.
YO WHAT IF in the end when the fatiu gets all the gonisi do you think they will need the traveler to will weld the elements inside the pieces I mean we as the traveler are the only one to wield more than one element
I think in the end traveler will use all gnosis that cryo archon gathered and get op asf. Like traveler without any effort controlled 100+ vision during fight with ei. Since he can use vision with much higher effort he should draw power from gnosis to. Traveler is dem op I'm not sure why he isn't using his power to full potential the fact the he can steal any power without any effort at all
I think the Fatui are gonna end up being the Anti Entropy of Genshin, Celestia is Schicksal, and the abyss order is World Serpent. Basically one faction is at first presented as evil, but we come around when a bigger threat comes. Its the other two factions that are the threat.
Part of me thinks that at least one of the bigger moral issues with joining the fatui will be glossed over or completely ignored for the sake of keeping the story going. That said, I'd be happy if they found a way to circumvent this
What if gaining a delusion unleashes something dark in the Traveler? What if some situation happens where we have to fight our own Traveler? Maybe the one we use to fight them might even be the Abyss sibling who would respond to their twin's agony! That would be a plot twist. I would personally cry if I have to fight my Traveler. 🥲
That would be so cool!
You have such an enthralling way of articulating your thoughts… Great job! I'm writing a fic/novel about Genshin that would run parallel to the game story, so I'm looking for insights such as the ones you provided. If you have any other ideas about what to make of the future chapters please let me know. Thank you!
Scaramouche is also visionless. He doesn't have a vision anywhere on him.
Aster: theorizing about potentail moral stand points and pro-cons
Me: memeing about moraless Traveller
I really like the idea of the Traveller getting manipulated though, or maybe them just getting tired of always having to clean up after the other nations problems. The Travellers in game dialouge has become more and more impatient even straight up refusing to help sometimes, seems like they are getting a bit annoyed at being sent around in an endless circle of side quests, either way some players are certainly getting antsy about it.
Is it possible for you to do any videos on Varka, the grandmaster of the Knights of Favonius? Idk how much info there is about him. My friend believes that he either 1. Became a harbinger to infiltrate them, or 2. He was corrupted by the Abyss. What do you think?
at least from what i remember, varka is supposed to be on an expedition in the mare jivari with the rest of mondstadt's cavalry. although him joining the fatui is interesting, i think we'll meet him in natlan (since the mare jivari is there)
Love your videos, Aether is my favorite character in Genshin so i appricate the content around him.
I would wanna see a all out war between the divine fatui and the abyss order and now with the new anime the void abyss
I think that the traveler could spy on the fatui. I dunno how this would work though or where it could take place (Mabye Snezhnaya?). But doing this, the traveller could find information about the fatui that hasn't been mentioned in the game.
I can only see the traveler coming to an agreement with the futui, joining the abyss seems closer to it
It’d be nice if Mihoyo makes a decision major plot where the traveler becomes a fatui harbinger. The story ending then has numerous conclusions making the story more diverse.
I think we will be left with only 8 harbingers because I believe they are the chess pawns and Hoyoverse showed with La Signora that they can and will kill harbingers if they so desire.
I've mentioned this on reddit, but I will rephrase it: I believe the Tsaritsa is the king piece, because not only is it quite ironic since she is a queen (and Barbatos had that piece), but because she orders the pawns to do her biding and the king piece is not captured in chess but killed instead, in my own experience at least. This all has to do with the chess pieces representing a gnosis, and one of Tartaglia's voice lines during the conversations between La Signora and Zhongli ("You played me like a pawn").
However, this leaves the question: if the Tsaritsa is the king gnosis, which piece is missing? We have only 7 archons, after all.
I love this long videos, Aster. Your voice and thoughts are everything.
Traveler and Fatui w/ The Abyss Order and the Prince/ss vs Celestia, that would be cool
With what we know from sumero that we can have fighting NPC's GIMME AN ARMY ON FATUI
it's interesting that if we become the 12th fatui harbinger how much primogems will we get? l mean l am not joining it if they are not paying us as much or more than story quests :D
Soon they might give us a story choice
Where you either join the fatui
Or join the knights instead
Ill go with knights
Who knows
Maybe some people might choose the fatui's side cuz childe's there
Maybe the ice Archon is ignorant to all the horrible things they’ve done. Maybe she just has guidelines and a set mission statement and that’s it. Maybe like Ei she’s out of touch. Maybe we won’t join the Fatui but we will join her in her ideals and her grand mission. I hope they break the mold of only introducing archons when there location comes out. I’d like to know more sooner.
what if mihoyo decides to have two endings - let us decide to join abyss or fatui?
Also, I’ve always found the ease of getting gnoses weird. Venti gets kicked by a mortal? Zhongli gets scammed? Give me a break. I’d vager the gods actually look for an excuse to help the fatui - without breaking their contracts with celestia.
I love how I came here from just watching a MatPat video on Genshin and you do like 10 times better that him when it comes to Genshin theories.
On the day the traveler joins the Fatui, Diluc will be chugging wine as he has become so done with this world
Yes the Iconic mask that the traveler use every single time they want to inflitrate the fatui camp lol
100 primos every day and i'll be joining the fatui
I love the voice over
So we’re going with Genshin What If’s? Cool. Here are my suggestions:
*- What if Aether woke up first?*
*- What if Ganyu joined the Yaksha?*
*- What if Hu Tao joined the Fatui?*
*- What if Miko make use the Gnosis’ power instead of giving it to Scaramouche?*
*- What if Fischl/Amy WAS from another world, or in other words: a GOD?*
*- What if Keqing retired from the Liyue Qixing and joined the KOF?*
*- What if Ayaka learned Musou No Hitotachi?*
*- What if Childe/Signora won against Aether?*
*waitwaitwaitwaitwai WAIT!!!!!......keqing joining the kof?....by kof do you mean THE KOF????........like the one with K, Kula, Athena, Iori, Kyo, Ralph, King, Mai, Teddy etc?*
@@gik0kaleidos417
I meant Keqing joining the Knights of Favonius.
@@uzumazin5099 *Oh oops! I thought you meant another game called KOF: King of Fighters lol 😂 my bad😅*
Plot twist, it's the abyss twin that gets delusion drugged.
12th harbinger aether sounds cool
If? More like when...
Anyone thinks by the time we get to the fatui homeland that the spirits themselves would try to recruit us. I mean by that point we might be back to full power and she might see us as an actual meaningful ally or weapon against celestia. She might even give in to any of our demands once it leads to us helping her over throw celestial.
I'll comment the long version soon here's the short version.
I mostly learned this from my Art History class.
Another one:
Did you know in Derveni Papyrus.
Zeus ate the first born king Phanes. So, in Greek mythology Zeus is known as a Demiurge. A Demiurge is a title to an arrogant god.
We might have an actual Demiurge. When someone dies in Greek, they turn them into constellations. So, the question is... IS everyone in Teyvat dead?
SO many questions!:
Is the sky the abyss? Is Celestia below Teyvat? Is the flying island just Garden of Eden or in game the Garden of the Gods? Ascending let's you escape to the real world (Honkai)?
Is Paimon the Second Who Came? Celestia is Fake? Apollo the father of Asclepius is after Zeus after Zeus killed him? Apollo killed the Guardian of Delphi the snake? Apollo killed it to save his mother Leto. The Temple of Apollo is in Delphi.
Another one:
Garden of Eden was created by another Demiurge named Yaldabaoth (Yahweh, Jehovah, Saklas in Hebrew the Fool, or Samael the Blind God)
Another one:
There's the Seven Serpents of Aztec Mythology. One of the Serpents is Quetzalcoatl.
In Ancient Greek Serpents are known as "Medieval-style Dragons".
But, what's weird is and why I hate Mihoyo. They're mixing multiple myths, which makes it harder to connect all of them by myself.
Another one:
Where Satan (the Dragon) sat on the throne for 7 days = 700 years, because the God felt pity for him. Satan (the Dragon) made everything I mean everything.
Until, the Archangel Michael and his army fought against Satan (the Dragon). After Archangel Michael and his army beat Satan (the Dragon) and his Angels fell onto Earth.
Another one:
Gnosis = Knowledge, or Insight in Ancient Greek.
Gnosis is needed to reach the God of Transcendence.
Another one:
Seven fires prophecy is an Anishinaabe prophecy.
The Seven Rays, which are, Sushumna, Harikesa, Viswakarman, Viswatryarchas, Sannaddha, Sarvavasu and Swaraj.
The Seven Planetary Logos Gabriel (Moon), Raphael (Mercury), Uriel (Venus), Michael (Sun), Samael (Mars), Zachariel (Jupiter), Orifiel (Saturn). Yaldabaoth created multiple planets.
I'm all in about going full Doom guy on Znesnaya.
do you think we will get a playable abyss character?
17:10
mm yes deluson
Aether
"Sister finder"
12th of the 11 fatui harbringers
now in 2023 traveler ranks at least number 6 in the fatui harbingers since he defeated the balladeer
i'm sorry it's been bothering me a while now, watching your latest videos. Why do you say the SHHH shound when saying ASSUME, but in every other word where the same sound is used, you say it normally? D:
Because I watched the show, "The Owl House", I just came up with a random scenario or some garbage. I don't think you're gonna understand the future writing (which there is A LOT and you probably won't be able to know what I mean by just skimming & scanning through the text), unless you watched TOH.
So yk Lilith, she was thinking of ways to capture Eda and force her to join the Emperor's coven? Like, Belos is pure evil, I love Belos' character so much that I wanna punch him where it hurts. Anyways, Eda's apprentice, Luz, is probably one of the only connections she has, which makes me think of Aether and Paimon. Could the Fatui capture a "Flying pet" and blackmail Aether to join the Fatui? Remember how Lilith called Luz "Eda's human pet"? This is strangely lining up. Except, Belos scammed Lilith and Belos literally tried to kill Eda. Which, makes Belos' character even more powerful. The way Belos died, there was a literal god who transformed him into 'goolos'. I don't think the Fatui are gonna try to kill Aether, though. Aether doesn't really have connections for long, as he is a traveler, so that would make sense. Your idea of surveillance actually makes me think of Raine and Terra. Besides Belos, I think Terra is the biggest threat until the end of season 2. Terra literally tried to brainwash Raine, which failed, because Raine is apart of the Bard coven so he changed the properties of Terra's tea with sound waves. That made me think, what if Aether didn't need surveillance? He just needed to be brainwashed.
But then again, Belos literally has an entire army. Couldn't he just use it to apprehend Eda and Luz? And the Tsaritsa also has a literal army. Hmmm...
Ik most of y'all probably won't take your time to read it, but, The Owl House is a really good show and you should watch it to become more big brain. It's only available on Disney+ I think. Sorry y'all if I'm advertising this, I swear I'm not.
Edit: I'm just thinking the Tsaritsa pulling a Warden Wrath on Aether, literally. Ik it's definitely not gonna happen but I think it would be so goofy if someone actually made that. I don't think there are a lot of genshin players who actually watched TOH.
Edit #2: I think it would be better to say that Luz is Aether (It would makes sense, since Luz is a human inside a world of demons and witches, like Aether, who is from another world of even outer space, in a world of humans and mortals.) and Eda is Paimon (This makes more sense because Eda is Luz's mentor. Even in a voiceline, Paimon says that the traveler is her younger sibling, as Aether does almost everything for Paimon, like how Luz's first few weeks or days of being Eda's apprentice, Eda told Luz to run some errands for her.)
Also, I love this line. 9:07
8:53 "fetus power set" 💀
I guess traveler will have to join the fatui if he wants to get close to the cryo archon
No wonder thus theory feels Familiar so we gonna see part 3 theory about traveller become fatui
i think the travler would join the fatui once we get to snezneha and learn about the tsuritsa
the Tsarita is an idiot if she's not gonna try to recruit the Traveler. we beat two of her Harbingers in a duel, and we're continuously beating down every Fatui we see. she should explain herself to us earlier than Chapter 6 or else, a big misunderstanding would happen where we will defeat her and her goals, only for us to realize that the Tsarita's cause is actually the most beneficial for Teyvat
new mask, yay
18:48 jumps are warning ahaha
What if the fatui tampered with memory’s like…
Celestia?
Endless amount of primogems will be at our disposal
traveller join fatui become a sigma
Wait hold on, they lost 2 Harbingers? Who was the second aside from La Signora?
scaramouche
he ran off and went rogue after obtaining the gnosis, so his current whereabouts are unknown
@@virignek9879 oh yea i remember now. i was thinking she meant 2 of them died.