@@ChillwithAster actually that happened in a series where the protagonist fought against a God just to save her precious one. Tip: the protagonist has the same va as Lumine
I think visions might also be limiters. There’s a Zhongli voice line that implies that visions aren’t actually needed by humans to control the elements, it’s just something humans believe. I think the natural state of humanity is closer to the traveler, who can resonate with elements without a vision, but the knowledge has been hidden from humans and replaced with the vision system to keep them on a set track.
Yes!! Visions definitely seem to be handed out as part of a ‘system’ by Celestia. It might also be why they destroyed Khaenri’ah, bc maybe someone there discovered they truly didn’t need the gods.
There was a guy in the komore teahouse, who lost his vision to Ayato in a duel, and didn't lose himself or his memories in fact, I'd say he acted more determined to get it back, so I think losing your vision will only have those adverse effects, if you are overreliant on it, or if yoi willingly give it away, I think it actially means that the person doesn't feel like they need their Vision to fulfill thwir ambition, take Lisa for example, she probably only uses it because it makes studying the elements easier or Hu Tao, she thinks her Vision is "meh" and wouldn't really need it for her job as funeral director, then we move on to someone like Amy, who made her Vision a part of Fischl, so to lose her vision, would likely mean losing a part of what makes Fischl Fischl.
Lisa learned so much that she required a vision to go further in her pursuit of knowledge. I believe it started with just learning about how allogenes got their elemental powers from visions, but it turned into her trying to learn more and more about visions. The knowledge she sought for was extremely deep and to find the answers she wanted she would have to sacrifice her life. Hence why Lisa is lazy now. In summary, she learned to much to the point if she sought to learn more she would be dead. She knows visions come with a price but doesn't know what the price is and that scares her.
Didn't that guy actually lose his ambition and start working for Ayato as a Kamisato guard, or something? That said, his memory of his ambition seemed to have remained the same, so it might be less like getting a spiritual lobotomy like the ones who had their Visions forcibly taken from them and inlaid upon the statue of Eternity/The Welkin Moon, and more him being true to his ideals and changing his ambitions naturally out of admiration for Ayato.
i was listening to Mona's voicelines and one struck me as odd. It probably doesn't have a deeper meaning bit she was talking about how an old woman gave her her vision. I just found it interesting that she saw who gave her her vision while it seems most other characters kinda just stumbled upon it
It was gifted to her. But that makes it odd as well because Masterless visions are extremely hard to activate even for a brief moment. Perhaps her master saw her potential and hifh attunement for this particular vision?
Old women is her master who taught her astromancy and disiplined and feed her ambition to be an astrologist. So basically she carriers the same ambition and principles as her master thats why she can use that vision without problem at any time.
The old lady Mona's talking about is her astrology master; presumably the vision she received was masterless, and the old lady knew that she could activate it because, well, said old lady is an astrologer, she can divine people's fates.
@@stainedglassliker6511 perhaps. but its still odd considering we don't know the exact origins or reasons for being handed a vision even though there is a lot of theories, both from the fan base and within the lore. some have commented it may have been a master vision from her master, but still odd considering the mysteries behind visions and astronomy
If I recall, new Electro Visions haven't been granted for a year, since the Vision Hunt Decree started, and Ei says she was not aware of that fact (you can read that in her About Visions voiceline). Do we know the reason that Celestia stopped the distribution of Electro Visions overall? Was it a reaction to the decree, or something else?
Celestia power might have a direct contact with a god's will. For example, (and this is just a theory), if celestia saw that Ei didn't want visions, they could have made the conscious decision to stop production to respect the Electro Archon's perspective on visions. Contrastingly, someone like Zhongli or Venti who aren't directly opposed to mortals having power despite they themselves no longer ruling wouldn't have the production of Geo and Anemo visions hindered.
@@ChillwithAster That's an interesting take, honestly. Perhaps if we get a character who recently obtained an Electro Vision in the future, it will show that her will has truly changed.
(I'm not good with lore but my theory) is that no one during that time and maybe even before the decree had an ambition close to Ei's Ideal of eternity. Celestia has 7 ideals, each ideals are represented by a Archon. Venti - Freedom or more so the hope for freedom Zhongli - Contracts or more so stability, a bedrock.. Ei - Eternity, a state of unchanging. See the problem, living beings (I used living beings because who knows, we might get a Dog with a vision lol) are in a state of constant change, progression. Ei's Ideal of eternity was too high to achieve and now after the Archon quest, she is confused on her ideal of eternity which I think until she decided on another ideal, a new electro vision may never be granted.
@@theRaika This isn't a bad theory, but I don't think the ideals have anything to do with Visions or Celestia, seeing as the Archons formed their ideals for personal reasons. The weird thing is that Celestia also didn't give them their elements, so honestly I don't know what being an Archon/having a Gnoses actually allows someone to do. Other than make contact with Celestia, ofc.
The situation in which you receive a vision doesn't matter for another reason too: your fate has been preordained. That makes the "when" redundant. A person could live a full life and receive a vision only on their deathbed and that would still count. Because they were an allogene from the very beginning.
Yeah. I wonder if there's a criteria for an allogene (like if someone just becomes an allogene one day after a change of heart) or are their fates pre-ordained
In regards of Itto, it may be the case that his ambition is contradictory to his element while at the same time complimentary of sorts. Without going into details maybe it's like, a dichotomy of sorts where; geo users all have a set of self-imposed rules they strictly abide by. But what if Itto's self-imposed rules are to break all the rules?
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if, after you ascend to Celestia, you get locked away in their tower so you aren't a threat to them anymore. It would explain why Venti refuses to go there, because he doesn't want to be locked up and thus lose his freedom. As for Itto, I think he didn't lose his memories because after he lost to Sara, he gained a new ambition: Defeat her. He didn't get a new Vision, because he can only recieve one in his lifetime, but it still overrode the pain of losing his and thus he didn't suffer the side effects. Another theory is that he's part Oni and thus has certain resistances to these things... who knows?
1st part: Exactly what happened to Venessa. She was locked away in Celestia, only allowed to leave as a falcon, and not a human. She could no longer speak of what she was enduring in her prison. 2nd part: his ambition to get it back overrode his ambition for the vision, as supported by another npc in Komore teahouse.
Delusions are forged from parts of dead gods. Visions should be similar. They can't be forged from characters own body per se. Somebody totally would see that they lost their limb in exchange to vision. BUT there is a part of charactre that is not connected to body. Their constellation. The "irminsult" stars in a false sky. That's how visions connected to characters ambitions/passions. That's why by loosing visions characters loose parts of themselfs. But all vision-users that we have access to have 6 stars in constallation. Vision forged from one of them. So for example after after loosing one Arataki still left with 5 stars. 5/6 That's why he mostly didn't changed unlike common folks which may had one or two available to them.
Maybe if Teyvat is supposed to be an ark or constructed world, Visions are given to those that are the entity in charge of the process believes have potential to fundamentally change its controlling system. Alternatively, maybe it's a way to find the best individuals to serve as 'fuel' to the system, and that central tower in Celestia with the cells is like a great battery.
I felt like this is somewhat overtly stated by a few characters, especially when you and Kazuha are talking about the deactivated vision. Visions just seem to be physical embodiments of ideals, and meant to prove their worth. It can survive its user and reactivate if it finds someone with the same resonating ideal and goal. If a genshin proves themselves, they are elevated to godhood, representing the ideal of their original vision. We don't know much beyond that, but presumably even in Celestia there is further conflict as ideals challenge one another. The unknown god at least seems to be against humans ascending to whatever is happening up there. So maybe the problems in Celestia are centered around humans stirring the pot of ideals that some other faction has long since accepted as fact.
10:50 the persona music is very fitting here since there's literally a boss fight that happens in a place in Persona 5 that looks like that celestia place that Vanessa is in.
Visions are strange and intriguing. People did seem lost without them but then there those like Itto and Diluc who didn't seem affected at all by the loss, in fact Diluc didn't have his Vision with him for at least a two years(?) before Kaeya gave it back to him at the end of the comic. The only thing I could think of is that the statue was doing something and those with oni blood like Itto are unaffected by it. Or maybe those with a strong will can overcome the side effects of being far from their Vision? Also this is just a minor thing, it likely has zero significance. But in the comic when Venessa ascends and walks through the gates of Celestia, why is she wearing her gladiator uniform? Is it just because they didn't have the design for her Knight uniform yet? Or some other reason? Again, its just a random detail I noticed that probably has nothing to do with the lore. Maybe they just assume the appearance they had when they first received their Vision.
It's a theory, but it is possible that his delusion had something to do with it. His ideals, his sense of self itself getting blurred due to the use of a false vision, a delusion. His delusion could've wained his vision, thus allowing him to stay without his vision until his sense of ideal returned.
I think the goal of visions is to direct humanity's use of the elements in a way that's non-threatening, controlled, and/or exploitable. We know that people can use the elements in other ways; Abyss Mages and the people of Tsurumi Island, for instance, use a mysterious language to control the elements directly from the ley lines. And who knows what Khaenri'ah was doing with the ley lines before they got smote. But if people think that the only way to control the elements is through visions, then Celestia can keep visions out of the hands of people who they deem a threat, use visions to keep an eye on those who can use the elements, and limit the abilities available to those that they don't deem dangerous. If I were to receive a vision, I think I'd want a hydro one.
Really interesting take on visions. U managed to keep the vid relevant even tho the topic of visions has gotten pretty old especially since we don't hv any new info. Ig I want a hydro vision coz it seems the most logical to use irl. Also, really nice and fun sponsorship integration.
My wild hunch is that the gods in Celestia may all have been once human. Perhaps they give out visions because they want to gatekeep their power and prevent ordinary humans from so easily reaching them? There are a lot of inconsistencies with this, but it's something I think about a lot. As for visions, I would love a cryo vision. I love winter and snow and the cold. I would totally use it to make snow on hot summer days, and also to preserve food without a refrigerator.
Congrats on the sponsorship! And well regarding the question by the end, I think I'd want a cryo vision. It seems very useful, you can use it to freeze water, be a bit immune to the cold, and can slow down enemies affected by it. There's probably plenty of ways to go about it, and you could maybe even make ice weapons? cool, literally.
13:48! not just itto, but an npc (nobumori i think) said when ayato took his vision, he felt relieved, like a burden was lifted off his shoulders. “those obsessions i had disappeared”. maybe relying on ambition and vision too much lead to all those people feeling like they’d lost a part of themselves when they lost the vision. i feel like we’ll know so much more about this when ayato comes out and talks about this because as far as we know, even when thoma was arrested he never interfered
Damn, visions are probably the most interesting things in the genshin lore in my opinion, the moment people receive it varies between something very dramatic and just another day of being boring, the element people get to wield could be random, or follow some type of ambition or it could be based on someone's personality and it's just so random, there's no pattern and if there are patterns they instantly get destroyed by something. For example, people speculate pyro allogenes to be cheery, fierce and all pyroed up, there's Amber, Yoimiya, Klee, Xingyan and Xiangling but then we have Diluc, calm, depressed and just Diluc. And in other cases the pattern aligns perfectly with the characters of the element but it also aligns with characters of other elements. Example would be Anemo, I've seen people say that the Anemo wielders are free souls that aren't truly free but that could easily apply to other characters. Xingyan? She's a free soul and she is pretty much free from everything but she also has to deal with judgements which I'm pretty sure bothers her even if she doesn't show it, maybe subconsciously because surely you can't be mentally 100% immune to anything, there's always an impact now matter how little it may be. In conclusion, visions are interesting to me because it doesn't have a certain pattern for there always is something to make the pattern be, well, not a pattern. Plus there hasn't been any electro visions since the visionhunt decree, if the archons don't give those out, how does the god or potentially do the gods choose which element to give the allogene? Surely that ain't a coincidence P.s. I'd like to have an Anemo vision, it could be very very practical and interesting. If I'm too lazy to get something I'll just let the wind carry it to me, plus there's a possibility I can move the air molecules to make sounds, tho the chances are quite slim. But I doubt I could make a whole ass song with it, air molecules are miniscule and making them bump against each other with such accuracy would be nearly impossible, so using it to annoy the fuck out of someone or make a high pitched voice to make someone go insane would probably be the limit of making sounds with an Anemo vision
The vision hunt decree was executed to help Ei pursue eternity. This is what I often fail to understand. What connection does the vision hunt decree have with eternity? Could it be a test to see if human ambition can reach thay eternity? Could it be Ei's way of protecting her people so that they may see the eternity she's long sought after? And for the question at the end, I would like a pyro vision. One, because I've been playing with matches and lighters since I was a kid. Two, I want to burn down my school for reasons I will not disclose. Edit: I forgot to type this in the first time but congrats on getting sponsored ! I've been watching your videos for a while, first one being why the traveler embodies all the ideals of the archons, but I've been mostly silent until recently where I started getting chatty on your streams. It was nice being able to watch your channel grow !
If i had to make a guess : Ambition is such a fatal human emotion that it negates the idea of godhood. Visions = Ambitions, and Ei's actually pretty right when she said that "humans lost their lives for their ambitions", both in terms of the VHD and Delusions. So she might want to purse the stillness and 'eternal calm' by removing one of the biggest factors of irrationality and action, AKA ambition.
@@ChillwithAster Ah, so the VHD was initiated to tame the arrogance of humans in order to achieve godhood, seeing as Ei says that eternity is the closest principle to celestia?
@@HikariHoshino18 Could be. Honestly, no clue. But Ei's perspective is pretty accurate all things considered. If the VHD kept going on, no one "actually" got hurt, you know? The only reason people started dying and that there was conflict (IN HER PERSPECTIVE) was because humanity retaliated (Which, you know, they should) BUT objectively, taking a person's gnosis doesn't result in death. her taking it was most likely a form of vegetation and keeping humanity at a docile state. After all, ambition is key to change and action. And since eternity is closest to Celestia, it's possible that Ei believed true peace is through the "stillness" and "lawfulness" embodied in Celestia. ALl just a massive theory though, nothing conclusive, unfortunately.
@@ChillwithAster So the execution of the VHD was an act of submission (of sorts) to the laws of Celestia, which somehow connects with her pursuit of eternity? So perhaps the VHD was to help humans achieve said stillness that Celestia demands when one ascends, which in a way would help her people achieve the eternity she's fought for via immortality provided by ascending to Celestia?
Wow Aster slowly but surely turning into a real life Venti.The poetry at the start makes me hooked on to stay till the end of video.This kind of videos is what I need to escape from the endless wrath of def% and hp% artifact
If I can choose willingly, it would probably be Dendro. Something to do with trees or something more in particular, pumpkins, or Jack-o'-lanterns. If it was trees, hopefully something like William Vangeance magic. Jack-o'-lanterns? It's a bit more special to me, I love Halloween and it's one of my favorite holidays. Throwing them when they explode or turning one into a pumpkin carriage to ride around in and etc lol. The second one I think that would profoundly match me is Cryo, it feels natural. I tried a Meyers Briggs 16 personality test and I found online where it shows what your actual possible vision would be based on the game's lore and knowledge combined with the type of personality you have. For whatever reason I got the Advocate type and it says my vision would be a Hydro......now I can say my astrology sign is a water sign, a Cancer, a crab...don't really know how to make of it. Lol
one thing that make me wonder is that "Vision are for the worth in the eyes of a god" something, it makes me wonder, How can lazy Ninja (Sayu) did to give her one? How did Diona given a vision? Even Klee and Qiqi? Im aware that people can get Visions early like Diluc but we know he has a huge ambition! I know these 4 lil ones have ambition but how are their small ambitions so strong that they were given one? This is the same thing for Yoimiya, Hu Tao, And Xingqui (If i spelled his name wrong i am so sorry) there a few more characters i am curious how they got their vision if "mortals" are supposed to have strong ambitions. Im also curious why people who just so happen to have big names (Gunnhildr, Guhua, Ragnivindr, Lawrence) always have a vision
To call their ambitions small is rather disingenious. Diona's was given hers while braving a Snow storm to save her drunken father. Sayu got her while on her mission. For all her Laziness. She is dedicated to the job of recon and getting back alive. Klee feels like a troll. Here's a kid who loved bombs so much she practically started working on them in her Own workshop before she was mentally 10. Qiqi didn't want to die and wished that she could just freeze time. As a child, a sudden death would far more strongly affect her.
For me visions are a mean to an end, such as weapons or skills, it potentially increase the length one can go but not that they are the only way to achieve it
a vision is like both a blessing and a curse, to the eyes of those who do not wield visions, the people who have received visions are blessed because the gods looked upon them with great favor but to those who wield visions..some think it’s a tool, some think it’s nothing more or nothing less, some think it’s an important piece that resembles one’s ambition and some think it’s completely useless and do not show much care for it. visions; what could they serve in the eyes of a deity such as celestia? is this getting poetic or something? i actually started reading books again and it’s been poggers about the vision i would like to receive..well then i breath, can i get an anemo vision?
I really like this theory, because it opens up a lot of other theories and opportunities. What if the vision hunt decree was really a way to test the ambition of vision users? Those who gave up their visions also lost their ambitions/memories, a metaphor for their ambitions being crushed by a god (Ei). However those who kept their visions were possible threats to celestia, because their ambitions were strong enough to withstand a god.
There's one thing that still concerns me... if ascension to Celestia and becoming a God meant losing one's ambition, how could we explain the fact that the Archons have seemingly very strong ambitions. If anything, in that retrospect, these Archons seem even more human than humans. Their dedication is extremely strong and they fight for their ideal, which in this case, could be seen as an ambition. This is a random thought, just to get it out there : If we go with the theory of the world of Teyvat being/being surrounded by the World Tree, the Yygdrasil(?), and the world being turned upside down, so the tree basically has its roots in the air....wouldn't that make ascending to Celestia close to descending into hell? The more we learn about the Archons and the Celestial Gods, the more I think that they aren't the good guys, and this would put it in an interesting way...
Geo vision. It is my zodiac, my personality, as well as my rock. I've had a fascination with the earth element ever since playing Golden Sun as a kid. Similar elemental universe, but I was always fond of the Geo spells you could cast in that game. Genshin to me is like a modern version of that under rated game.
Awesome video!! Love the constant food for thought this channel offers. Seeing as we still haven't seen dendro in the game yet, that makes it all the more intriguing. I'd love to wield a dendro vision, if celestia were so kind to bestow their heavenly gaze upon me :P
Here's a theory regarding vision distribution for you. What if visions are automatically given to people who align with an archon's own ideals and ambitions. This might be an innate ability of the gnoses the Archons carry. This would also explain why no new electro visions would be given out during the Vision hunt decree. Because who in their right mind would agree with Ei's ideal of a stagnant and unchanging world?
Until right now, I'm still quite confused about the one who give the people vision, it's still a mystery, but for now, we just have to enjoy the story and explore the world of teyvat! 😆👍 Edit: Btw, Nice Videos Aster! 👍👍👍
I think the "person" who gives the visions is Celestia itself? bcs I think in one character's voiceline it says that the Archons aren't the ones giving visions
Yes Venti already explained that. He said that anyone who has a vision can become an immortal being. But it's not the Vision that makes one capable of becoming an immortal being. The vision is just a recognition or original creation by that person. The fact that losing a Vision changes a person means that Visions aren't GRANTED. They are created by the person themself and are an actual part of that person. If the visions were bestowed as gifts then having that gift taken back wouldn't change the person as it would be entirely external.
you don't know how much I enjoy your videos :D it gives me a peace of mind whenever I'm not in the mood. Theories or lores, it's something that I enjoy listening to.
I think you’re onto something regarding the amount of reliance on the vision affecting the character but I would mention Ayato along with Itto. Ayato gained his vision from a duel with its previous owner and the man was normal afterwards. Unlike Itto who is a playable character but also full of so much drive that his vision is a handy tool but ultimately inconsequential to his end goals, the guy is regular (I can’t even remember his name). I believe there are three aspects of owning a vision and losing it, the first is where the element is used so regularly and depended on that by stripping it away it harms the owner. The second is with Ayato, he won the duel fairly and seemingly lifted the burden of the ambition off of the regular guys shoulders, once free of that burden and visionless he did not suffer any negative side affects. And then there’s Itto (and I’d be willing to bet Keqing and Ninguang would fit here too) who has an ambition to restore the reputation of the Oni even if he has to paint himself the bad guy. His vision is useful but he would exist as rambunctious as always without it bc some things burn too brightly in our chests to be tied down to a neat ability. I mentioned Ninguang who’s entire ambition is to amass wealth to stay off the streets and predominantly care for ALL of Liyue, so much that it is her political and economic sense that makes her a terrifying opponent in Teyvat NOT her vision. Likewise Keqing and her initial disdain for her vision before accepting it as a tool, she was just as set on taking care of Liyue as she was before obtaining her vision, if she were to lose it she’d continue on just as she always has been. That’s not to say all playable characters would be fine if they lost their vision, I imagine Fischl would be devastated as it’s by her own power that Oz was granted life and her a good friend. Mona relies on her water manipulation for her hydromancy, Barbara would no longer be able to heal, Bennett would have a much worse time all in all.
in languages like german, the visions are called "eye of the gods" Also, I'd probably want a hydro Vision and use a catalyst. I would be a damage dealer though unlike kokomi 😭
Well, I'm a Libra, but also my personality seems similar to both Venti & Kazuha. Plus considering my own views and ideas about myself & the world as a whole...I believe Id end up with Anemo, and would want it to be that as well.
If I recall correctly in the manga, Vanessa had no vision when she ascended to Celestia (unless the flames around her were a sign of Pyro??) The person I feel is most closest to knowing about Vision is probably Lisa herself due to the implication or voicelines she states about them almost making it seem that having a vision is painfully dire and costly, like if the vision is used for the potential allogene to fulfill their ambition it would require that allogene to pay a hefty price in the future (which may be the person's life or loyalty to Celestia) Then again thinking about NPCs who we know gave up their Vision such as Jiangxue or those who had theirs taken away such as Tejima and the others in Inazuma, they don't seem to be actively using the elements anymore, would Celestia deem those individuals worthy anymore? (or just due to the game not allowing us to see a vision wielding NPC lol) In the Traveler's case, they are definitely a force to be taken note of because of their ability to be Visionless yet able to wield the elements, would Celestia sooner in the game come after a peculiar alien possibly bending or not submitting to the "laws of Teyvat?" and with how Yae Miko stated to the Traveler about our ambition to which we (kinda replied in a way of uncertainty?) is to find our sibling. Then does this propose that we may be getting a vision in the future (which I highly doubt due to the Traveler being an alien and despite the implications of the laws of Teyvat, we don't necessarily follow them all kind of like the traveler being bound by it but also not being held entirely by it) Lastly, if the potential allogene does become a supposed servant of Celestia (kinda like an Archon?) has the ideals of supposedly Anemo being freedom, Geo for contracts, and Inazuma for eternity changed? Has it become similar to the Archon who shall succeed the previous Archon (looking at the Kusanali Dendro Archon, maybe?) because if Benny is the Pyro Archon then the Pyro would be about Adventure of Bouken da Bouken!/j (bad joke lol ;---;) but I wonder what would happen if Vision users have already fulfilled their ambition, or maybe the Vision evolves as human ambitions evolve too until the death of their masters. Like how Kazuha's friend seemingly husked vision has been reawakened? which is like an indication that anyone with the same ambition as his dead friend can awake a seemingly masterless vision.
In the manga, her ascension may have come at a later time. She still needed to have established the knights of favonious and have become.the dandelion knight (venti trailer) so either she's a special case or she got her vision late in her life
Ganda ng theory mo, sa tingin ko yung pagkawala ng vision equals pagkawala ng ambition ay depende sa vision holder. Kung nakuha nila ang vision nila dahil sa malakas na ambition nila, kapag nawala ito, maaraming mawala ambition nila, pero kung ang taong nakakuha ng vision ay hindi dahil sa ambition nila, hindi mawawala ambition, pagkatao, memory etc.
GOD, your theories slap so hard i love em!! To answer the question at the end, I feel like Geo would maybe resonate with me the most it just feels right
A great theory! Makes me wonder why the Traveller doesn' t have a vision though and if Paimon is a special vision for the traveller even more, this part of Genshin lore is very exciting to me, I hope we get more and more of that in next archon quests, what we got with Chapter 2 felt... very little I would like an anemo vision, I like fire and everything, but why settle for that if I can absorb every element! And also cuz anemo is the best Genshin element, fight me
Honestly, one of the reasons I made this video was kinda a correlation to another video I have where I theorized Paimon was Celestia's eyes into the Traveler's doings. Nothing malevolent and Paimon herself is completely unaware of the situation, but maybe !
@@ChillwithAster Yep, exactly the video this one reminded me of, another good theory btw Yea Im kind of obsessed with you channel theories-- they are just way too good
Playing Honkai has infected my brain, because every time I watch a Genshin theory now I go "WOAH THAT'S OBVIOUSLY [Kiana/HoV, Honkai, Will of the Honkai,etc.]!"
I’m a simple man, I see Kazuha in the thumbnail and Aster posting and I click- 🥰🥰 also, CONGRATS ONNTHE SPONSOR!!!! WOWOWOWOWOWOW omgggg bestie’s growinggg /lh EDIT: I would either have an Anemo Vision since I stand for freedom and have experienced a sort of defiance that I, myself, would like to be free from once more.
I have not been playing for long, but my interpretation of visions was that they took as much as they gave, as in a person's memories and ambitions are stored in the vision as they continue to pursue their ambition. This is simply because the four people we meet who have had their visions taken and suffered memory problems, had all dedicated their lives to their ambition for many years. If it was something that got worse the longer you had your vision this would explain itto's unchanged behavior.
From what I observed from the game, if a vision is taken by force the holder lose a major part of who they are but if a vision was taken through a challenge like with itto and that npc in the teahouse, the holder remain who they are, that also includes people who abandoned their vision by choice. Based on the personality in which element you can get in game, I would be an electro vision holder and I am quite happy with that because it's my favourite element.
The criteria to giving visions is my main question about vision theories, because great desire & willpower are traits that both pantalone and dottore have, pantalone in special has 1 for 1 ninguang's backstory but never got a vision, to be honest the desire and will to become "The heart of the world that pumps money" surelly seens bigger than becoming a qixing of Liyue.
Honestly, there is no real criteria at the moment for Visions that can be confirmed; For example, teppei, dottore, and Pantalone who are confirmed visionless. So Yae and Thoma's claim that visions are simply ambitions are faulty (just like how mortals claim who gives visions). We'll most likely have to find out in the future what's the real goal of visions and why certain people dont have
Personally, I like to think that Ascension may just be the real contract in which the individual is sent off to fight some bigger threat that we have yet to hear about. Something from beyond that the people of Teyvat are to be shielded from by Celestia. I could be and am probably wrong on this, but it's fun to think about.
This too! I was humoring the idea for a while like "why would they want to find worthy people" but then it clicked. There are other worlds and Celestia most likely has to govern them too for the sake of Teyvat, so maybe !
At first I wasn’t too sold on the idea of celestia being a prison and visions being both a blessing and a curse but this video sealed the deal! I’m in! Ngl this has puella magika madoka vibe which I don’t like were this is going, but, at the same time, please be true XDDD According to tests my vision would be cryo, which its reasonable for me and, I would figure that if its true, similarly to Chongyun would ?hopefully? tempered the heat of my body so I can enjoy a summer without being a corpse.
I'm actually as equally interested in the sponsor (cuz seriously that looks useful and cool) as the video itself. As far as the visions being a test gonna go with a Hard Disagree there. Counterpoint: Each vision does contain a set of ambitions that can synergize with the wielder. This does not always occur as we know some visions are given up. Here's my wild theory. The Visions are Elemental Beings that are similar to those exotic artifacts known as sentient weapons. The key to understanding them is via one's ambitions as they resonate with such desires. As they will reignite when a similar ambition resonates with them. As such desired objects they are greatly sought after and are likely to find another wielder eventually. What's their purpose? Well if you were an disembodied elemental being with strong ambitions looking to change the world what better way then to seek out a host to help influence it. (This was written under the pretense that Celestians are invaders of Tehvat and do not originate here to begin with) I would sympathize with a Geo Vision myself. After studying the wielders they seem to be best suited for public service and protection. Also I would choose a fighting monk style that didn't use weapons other then ones own body and I think the activation of the vision would manifest in both a shield and as a rippling ground quake that damaged all enemies. Aka 'The Wrath of the Rock'
I did a personality test one time and it said I would have an ammo vision as for the reason why a lot of people say I have a big heart and I would like to think that if I had a vision then my family would look at me in another light instead of thinking that because of certain issues I can't defend myself or others so basically I would use my vision to protect my family and Friends or at least try to also this is making me think really hard anyways this was a great Theory
WHAT IF VISIONS? Seal your power, underneath the THRONE IN CELESTIA so that the powers of the person (Allogene), which are in truth, pure light! Are suppressed? Maybe that's why Archons are powerful; maybe it's why we can use any element because we are light, pure at our core and able to shine our knowledge against the force of the ignorance sprawling Abyss?
I'd want an anemo vision Freedom is beautiful in it's complication, cause it's not permissiveness (that'd be anarchy, not freedom), it's curious to explore what it means to oneself in particular. Also, I think I need a little boost of confidence to express myself more as a quite creative person, I'm being too hesitant sometimes ....And yeah, wind is just cool. In every sense
Persona 5, Megaten Law Factions, it's all coming together...Shin Megami Tensei V introduces the Nahobino concept, a fuaion of the mortal human and the divine. In the Japanese dub of Genshin Impact, Allogenes are actually called "Genshin", a term that describes prototype divine beings. This leads me to believe that Mihoyo took inspirations from the Persona franchise and Gnosticism when developing Genshin Impact. After all, the Law Alignment in Persona and Megaten games seeks to maintain law and order in not only the entire universe, but also in countless bubble universes.
8:41 did I just hear you say Devine Legos? Oh and if I could have a vision I think I would want a cryo one because I could create structures and stuff like that but your probably wondering "If you want to create structures why not have a Dendro vision" simple i get sick very easily and I wouldn't want to create life by mistake and have to take care of it
I think Celestia is not having equivalence to Monad, but either Sethian Yaldabaoth for the more insidiously controlfreak Celestia theories, or the Valentinian Craftsman (Demiurge) for the more well-intentioned but ignorant Celestia theories Or if we tied it to grander Mihoyoverse theories as a whole, Celestia could be Sethian version of repentant Sabaoth, a Great Archon and a child of Yaldabaoth which after seeing the strength of one of Pleroma's Angels to drag Yaldabaoth into Tartaros (Christian Inferno), sing praises to Sophia and gives ascension to powers above "the heavens of chaos" (as with Yaldabaoth and his remaining 6 children which envies Sabaoth's ascension and greater powers granted by Sophia in the 8th Heaven) Sabaoth in On The Origin of The World text (or Hypostasis of The Archons) also detailed to creates hosts of his own Angels and Pantheons of deities of multitude to rival Yaldabaoth and brings those who are worthy among Psychics (Ordinary Christians) or even repentant Hylics (materialists, either classified as Pagans or atheists) into Pneumatic (Spiritualists, Elects in Sethian and Valentinian Gnostic Schools) status, just like the "ascension" theories could lead to various possibilities of how Allogenes are treated Aether and Lumine could fit the role of human syzygies of either Adam and Eve, or Jesus and Mary Magdelene, as reflecting Christ being the wedded halve of Sophia after she's being saved and awaits those who elected to wage wars against Demiurgic figure and obliterate it's realms, adding further to the greater threat outside Tevyat with grander Mihoyoverse theories (I mean we literally got Honkai X Genshin collab here in Honkai Impact lol), but this is my personal take after having interests in "Gnosticism" after some time, as Apocryphon of John dictates The World is "neither light nor dark, but dim", which echoes through Dainsleif's mentions of how everyone in this story thinks they're doing what's right, as Honkai Impact manga also hinted of there's fundamental Principle which transcend The Honkai itself, but it has yet to be explained further
I'd really like to learn more about how people obtain their vision for the first time. I'd really like to see that happening on-screen. Tbh I have a feeling that in the Sumeru archon quest we're going to meet Collie and see her get a vision, because she didn't have one in the manga and has a unique enough design to become playable. She would probably have a dendro vision because it would match her hair!
I think visions are a way of celestia watching people as a way to test and measure their ambition so they know who could cause problems and who can’t but I think they are more of gifts for the user because they test their ambition. I really hope itto’s quest explains more about how he survived without a vision
Honestly, I just figured getting a vision meant that you are a candidate of becoming an asset to Celestia, be it a future archon if the current dies, or like Vanessa becoming one of the four winds. And the cost of having a vision is linked completely to the cost of immortality which is a common theme in the game (what with the corrosion arc and whatnot). I am sure there is some watching going on if that is the case too though.
Could vision & constellation relate to each others? Can celestia just- read the fate of the characters & decide which one in what time deserving their vision? For human it would feel like they were granted something as acknowledgement of ambition, since they can't read their own fate but for entity that above the rule or is the rule, it is not a surprise for them, it is what it is a cold life map of someone with many possibilities. That's why characters gaining vision so randomly, that's why celestia did not smite people who abandoned their vision, they supervised allogenes that have potential, in picking candidates of course there is elimination, voluntarily or by facing certain challenge. Ei, possibly don't understand what vision actually is as she does not the one giving it out nor she have one, she only know it is a symbol of great potential, crystalized form of ambition. This also answer why some people lost their self some not when they part with the vision: it is severing the connection to their constellation, it sever them from their fate BY FORCE (just like when you are drawing & windows just hang, so the program forced to be closed, it took important progress from you, thank god, it can be recovered!) All human in teyvat have constellation right? and in leonard's story his constellation still hold his memories & ambition, so by taking away vision it is severing human with their constellation. Some people are fine because they willingly part from it like that one komore tea house keeper that put it as part of challenge, it must be act of willingness to let your fate be rewritten, that you STEP OUT FROM BEING CANDIDATE, but... did anyone know that they can step out? no? When battling raiden the vision shone their owner last wish when parting with the vision when they part unwillingly with their cosmic fate: they want vision hunt decree be abolished, while tomo (kazuha's friend) still desire to brave the lightning glow, tomo died as designated in his fate, but because kazuha's situation the vision light up once more because not only tomo's constellation still up there (even if the human died the constellation did not, proven by leonard's case) but kazuha who carry around his vision happen to be LITERALLY PARRYING LIGHTNING GOD, the alignment of fate in this moment is amazing
That is a fascinating thought, which opens a can of worms. It can imply 2 things about his ascension: 1. he doesn't ascend because he didn't care enough about his vision (and by extension his ambition) and went down a a jovial lifestyle, or 2. he does ascend because he proves himself capable of living without the gift of gods. Also! I wonder if there ARE still effects on losing a vision despite seeming uncaring. First is that what if the changes on Itto are gradual? Like it was only gone for a year, and we know Itto might not even be too dependent on his vision, but what if after a decade or smth, we see the effects? THAT we can't prove
To answer your question, I'd want an Anemo Vision As for my thoughts on this... Personally, I've seen vision as a curse more so than a gift ever since the 2.0 archon quest, finding out the meaning of visions further made me believe in the statement. I mean, it's honestly weird, if a vision is a sign of recognition and a gift from the gods, why should it harm the receiver? The fact that it means what it means makes it even worse. I fully agree with you; a vision is used to keep track of those with potential to ascend to Celestia. Whether it's to one day tamper with them or rid of them is most likely according to how it goes, a vision can also be seen as a trial. Whatever it is, I am sure that the Gods of Celestia wants to neutralize these ambitions before it gets out of their control, since after all, it would be a "waste of potential."
@@ChillwithAster this is the perfect opportunity to tell you that Genshin and Honkai are somehow connected to Fortnite Hear me out we all know that genshin is connected to honkai via the imaginary tree, now assuming that Aloy is canonically in Teyvat, that means that HZD is canonically apart of the Imaginary tree, besides genshin, fortnite has also collabed with HZD and in fortnite, every fucking crossover is canon cause of the fucking zero point thing, basically, Fortnite is also a part of the imaginary tree, this basically also means that the entirety of the MCU is also canonically connected to Honkai, as well as shit like Rick and Morty Ik this is absolutely stupid and that's why I love it
For the question you asked at the end, I'd want an electro Vision I think! It'd be funny to have a hand buzzer that you can just use whenever XD I think if I did get one without choosing, though, I'd probably end up getting a Cryo one, just based on what the in-universe theme with those seems to be (masks, servitude/nobility, and some level of "hiding one's true self") lol
Anemo vision because I really don’t like to be bound mentally unless it’s something that interests me or it’s important and I am very lazy and don’t like to do a lot also I write poetry when I’m bored
Itto loosing his Vision to Sara is similar to the "doorman" inside the Komore Teahouse, Nobumori. Nobumori wagered his Vision to Kayato in a duel to see who was a stronger polearm user. He lost to Ayato far and square and relinquished his Vision to Ayato willing. Nobumori didn't surfer any memory loss due to this. The only thing it let go of was the weight of his ambition on his soul as his ambition was to prove how strong he was. Itto was a similar situation with Sara as she was the one challenging Itto for his vision. Itto lost so he was a "warrior" about and gave it up willing at that time. But didn't tamper with his spirit at all. lol
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Allogene in China and Japan version is called "Genshin". The very name of the game.. Literally means the origin of god.
time to go to celestia, ascend, and go into a fist fight with god, you know?
Bennett is this close to becoming the pyro archon
allogene impact.
yuanshen ch and genshin jp ver of ch mean primordial god
@@ChillwithAster actually that happened in a series where the protagonist fought against a God just to save her precious one.
Tip: the protagonist has the same va as Lumine
I think visions might also be limiters. There’s a Zhongli voice line that implies that visions aren’t actually needed by humans to control the elements, it’s just something humans believe. I think the natural state of humanity is closer to the traveler, who can resonate with elements without a vision, but the knowledge has been hidden from humans and replaced with the vision system to keep them on a set track.
Yes!! Visions definitely seem to be handed out as part of a ‘system’ by Celestia. It might also be why they destroyed Khaenri’ah, bc maybe someone there discovered they truly didn’t need the gods.
What if they give a vision to those who awaken their powers so they don't have to explain much and as you said keep the lie.
This begins to explain Signora since she cane manipulate Pyro without a vision.
There was a guy in the komore teahouse, who lost his vision to Ayato in a duel, and didn't lose himself or his memories in fact, I'd say he acted more determined to get it back, so I think losing your vision will only have those adverse effects, if you are overreliant on it, or if yoi willingly give it away, I think it actially means that the person doesn't feel like they need their Vision to fulfill thwir ambition, take Lisa for example, she probably only uses it because it makes studying the elements easier or Hu Tao, she thinks her Vision is "meh" and wouldn't really need it for her job as funeral director, then we move on to someone like Amy, who made her Vision a part of Fischl, so to lose her vision, would likely mean losing a part of what makes Fischl Fischl.
which was now proved by Itto. My guy lives in the moment and losing his vision made him lose NONE of his character.
@@kinrateia it's because his Vision only ADDS to his coolness, he don't need no Vision to be cool 😎
@@kinrateia
Itto is build different
Lisa learned so much that she required a vision to go further in her pursuit of knowledge. I believe it started with just learning about how allogenes got their elemental powers from visions, but it turned into her trying to learn more and more about visions. The knowledge she sought for was extremely deep and to find the answers she wanted she would have to sacrifice her life.
Hence why Lisa is lazy now. In summary, she learned to much to the point if she sought to learn more she would be dead. She knows visions come with a price but doesn't know what the price is and that scares her.
Didn't that guy actually lose his ambition and start working for Ayato as a Kamisato guard, or something?
That said, his memory of his ambition seemed to have remained the same, so it might be less like getting a spiritual lobotomy like the ones who had their Visions forcibly taken from them and inlaid upon the statue of Eternity/The Welkin Moon, and more him being true to his ideals and changing his ambitions naturally out of admiration for Ayato.
So Vision is uhhh... Celestia's iPhone with shitty privacy
It's the fbi listening in on you , no kap
no kap
After seeing the story of Vanessa ascending to Celestia, it feels more like asension is a imprisonment.
But she didn't get imprisoned, she became a filcon and one of the four winds
i was listening to Mona's voicelines and one struck me as odd. It probably doesn't have a deeper meaning bit she was talking about how an old woman gave her her vision. I just found it interesting that she saw who gave her her vision while it seems most other characters kinda just stumbled upon it
It was gifted to her. But that makes it odd as well because Masterless visions are extremely hard to activate even for a brief moment.
Perhaps her master saw her potential and hifh attunement for this particular vision?
Old women is her master who taught her astromancy and disiplined and feed her ambition to be an astrologist. So basically she carriers the same ambition and principles as her master thats why she can use that vision without problem at any time.
The old lady Mona's talking about is her astrology master; presumably the vision she received was masterless, and the old lady knew that she could activate it because, well, said old lady is an astrologer, she can divine people's fates.
@@cassandrawasright1481 makes sense
@@stainedglassliker6511 perhaps. but its still odd considering we don't know the exact origins or reasons for being handed a vision even though there is a lot of theories, both from the fan base and within the lore. some have commented it may have been a master vision from her master, but still odd considering the mysteries behind visions and astronomy
If I recall, new Electro Visions haven't been granted for a year, since the Vision Hunt Decree started, and Ei says she was not aware of that fact (you can read that in her About Visions voiceline). Do we know the reason that Celestia stopped the distribution of Electro Visions overall? Was it a reaction to the decree, or something else?
Celestia power might have a direct contact with a god's will. For example, (and this is just a theory), if celestia saw that Ei didn't want visions, they could have made the conscious decision to stop production to respect the Electro Archon's perspective on visions. Contrastingly, someone like Zhongli or Venti who aren't directly opposed to mortals having power despite they themselves no longer ruling wouldn't have the production of Geo and Anemo visions hindered.
@@ChillwithAster That's an interesting take, honestly. Perhaps if we get a character who recently obtained an Electro Vision in the future, it will show that her will has truly changed.
There was an npc from sumeru who talks about making a study of how electro vision users are rare to find
(I'm not good with lore but my theory) is that no one during that time and maybe even before the decree had an ambition close to Ei's Ideal of eternity.
Celestia has 7 ideals, each ideals are represented by a Archon.
Venti - Freedom or more so the hope for freedom
Zhongli - Contracts or more so stability, a bedrock..
Ei - Eternity, a state of unchanging.
See the problem, living beings (I used living beings because who knows, we might get a Dog with a vision lol) are in a state of constant change, progression.
Ei's Ideal of eternity was too high to achieve and now after the Archon quest, she is confused on her ideal of eternity which I think until she decided on another ideal, a new electro vision may never be granted.
@@theRaika This isn't a bad theory, but I don't think the ideals have anything to do with Visions or Celestia, seeing as the Archons formed their ideals for personal reasons. The weird thing is that Celestia also didn't give them their elements, so honestly I don't know what being an Archon/having a Gnoses actually allows someone to do. Other than make contact with Celestia, ofc.
The situation in which you receive a vision doesn't matter for another reason too: your fate has been preordained. That makes the "when" redundant. A person could live a full life and receive a vision only on their deathbed and that would still count. Because they were an allogene from the very beginning.
Yeah. I wonder if there's a criteria for an allogene (like if someone just becomes an allogene one day after a change of heart) or are their fates pre-ordained
That's even assuming Mona is a hundred percent right.
Like Qiqi..... Got her vision as she died
In regards of Itto, it may be the case that his ambition is contradictory to his element while at the same time complimentary of sorts. Without going into details maybe it's like, a dichotomy of sorts where; geo users all have a set of self-imposed rules they strictly abide by. But what if Itto's self-imposed rules are to break all the rules?
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if, after you ascend to Celestia, you get locked away in their tower so you aren't a threat to them anymore. It would explain why Venti refuses to go there, because he doesn't want to be locked up and thus lose his freedom.
As for Itto, I think he didn't lose his memories because after he lost to Sara, he gained a new ambition: Defeat her. He didn't get a new Vision, because he can only recieve one in his lifetime, but it still overrode the pain of losing his and thus he didn't suffer the side effects. Another theory is that he's part Oni and thus has certain resistances to these things... who knows?
1st part: Exactly what happened to Venessa. She was locked away in Celestia, only allowed to leave as a falcon, and not a human. She could no longer speak of what she was enduring in her prison.
2nd part: his ambition to get it back overrode his ambition for the vision, as supported by another npc in Komore teahouse.
Delusions are forged from parts of dead gods. Visions should be similar. They can't be forged from characters own body per se. Somebody totally would see that they lost their limb in exchange to vision. BUT there is a part of charactre that is not connected to body. Their constellation. The "irminsult" stars in a false sky. That's how visions connected to characters ambitions/passions. That's why by loosing visions characters loose parts of themselfs. But all vision-users that we have access to have 6 stars in constallation. Vision forged from one of them. So for example after after loosing one Arataki still left with 5 stars. 5/6 That's why he mostly didn't changed unlike common folks which may had one or two available to them.
Maybe if Teyvat is supposed to be an ark or constructed world, Visions are given to those that are the entity in charge of the process believes have potential to fundamentally change its controlling system. Alternatively, maybe it's a way to find the best individuals to serve as 'fuel' to the system, and that central tower in Celestia with the cells is like a great battery.
Great theory Aster!!
If I were a vision wielder, I’d probably be anemo. I’m a dancer, so dancing with the wind seems like a pretty logical choice.
ooh that's a good take O: as free as the wind, i see!
I felt like this is somewhat overtly stated by a few characters, especially when you and Kazuha are talking about the deactivated vision. Visions just seem to be physical embodiments of ideals, and meant to prove their worth. It can survive its user and reactivate if it finds someone with the same resonating ideal and goal. If a genshin proves themselves, they are elevated to godhood, representing the ideal of their original vision. We don't know much beyond that, but presumably even in Celestia there is further conflict as ideals challenge one another. The unknown god at least seems to be against humans ascending to whatever is happening up there. So maybe the problems in Celestia are centered around humans stirring the pot of ideals that some other faction has long since accepted as fact.
What a second , you’re that guy!
10:50 the persona music is very fitting here since there's literally a boss fight that happens in a place in Persona 5 that looks like that celestia place that Vanessa is in.
Visions are strange and intriguing. People did seem lost without them but then there those like Itto and Diluc who didn't seem affected at all by the loss, in fact Diluc didn't have his Vision with him for at least a two years(?) before Kaeya gave it back to him at the end of the comic. The only thing I could think of is that the statue was doing something and those with oni blood like Itto are unaffected by it. Or maybe those with a strong will can overcome the side effects of being far from their Vision?
Also this is just a minor thing, it likely has zero significance. But in the comic when Venessa ascends and walks through the gates of Celestia, why is she wearing her gladiator uniform? Is it just because they didn't have the design for her Knight uniform yet? Or some other reason? Again, its just a random detail I noticed that probably has nothing to do with the lore. Maybe they just assume the appearance they had when they first received their Vision.
It's a theory, but it is possible that his delusion had something to do with it.
His ideals, his sense of self itself getting blurred due to the use of a false vision, a delusion.
His delusion could've wained his vision, thus allowing him to stay without his vision until his sense of ideal returned.
I think the goal of visions is to direct humanity's use of the elements in a way that's non-threatening, controlled, and/or exploitable. We know that people can use the elements in other ways; Abyss Mages and the people of Tsurumi Island, for instance, use a mysterious language to control the elements directly from the ley lines. And who knows what Khaenri'ah was doing with the ley lines before they got smote. But if people think that the only way to control the elements is through visions, then Celestia can keep visions out of the hands of people who they deem a threat, use visions to keep an eye on those who can use the elements, and limit the abilities available to those that they don't deem dangerous.
If I were to receive a vision, I think I'd want a hydro one.
Goodluck with the gods watching your every move ......
I whould wanna be the anemo but what more relatedable is cryo
Really interesting take on visions. U managed to keep the vid relevant even tho the topic of visions has gotten pretty old especially since we don't hv any new info.
Ig I want a hydro vision coz it seems the most logical to use irl. Also, really nice and fun sponsorship integration.
Thank you! And yeah, this is a really old topic but I really just wanted to research it for my sake since it's such a fascinating one
My wild hunch is that the gods in Celestia may all have been once human. Perhaps they give out visions because they want to gatekeep their power and prevent ordinary humans from so easily reaching them? There are a lot of inconsistencies with this, but it's something I think about a lot. As for visions, I would love a cryo vision. I love winter and snow and the cold. I would totally use it to make snow on hot summer days, and also to preserve food without a refrigerator.
Congrats on the sponsorship! And well regarding the question by the end, I think I'd want a cryo vision.
It seems very useful, you can use it to freeze water, be a bit immune to the cold, and can slow down enemies affected by it. There's probably plenty of ways to go about it, and you could maybe even make ice weapons? cool, literally.
Thank you! And yeah a cryo vision would be super nice. especially if it's a hot day! like you have a free AC? Nice !
13:48! not just itto, but an npc (nobumori i think) said when ayato took his vision, he felt relieved, like a burden was lifted off his shoulders. “those obsessions i had disappeared”. maybe relying on ambition and vision too much lead to all those people feeling like they’d lost a part of themselves when they lost the vision. i feel like we’ll know so much more about this when ayato comes out and talks about this because as far as we know, even when thoma was arrested he never interfered
Damn, visions are probably the most interesting things in the genshin lore in my opinion, the moment people receive it varies between something very dramatic and just another day of being boring, the element people get to wield could be random, or follow some type of ambition or it could be based on someone's personality and it's just so random, there's no pattern and if there are patterns they instantly get destroyed by something. For example, people speculate pyro allogenes to be cheery, fierce and all pyroed up, there's Amber, Yoimiya, Klee, Xingyan and Xiangling but then we have Diluc, calm, depressed and just Diluc. And in other cases the pattern aligns perfectly with the characters of the element but it also aligns with characters of other elements. Example would be Anemo, I've seen people say that the Anemo wielders are free souls that aren't truly free but that could easily apply to other characters. Xingyan? She's a free soul and she is pretty much free from everything but she also has to deal with judgements which I'm pretty sure bothers her even if she doesn't show it, maybe subconsciously because surely you can't be mentally 100% immune to anything, there's always an impact now matter how little it may be.
In conclusion, visions are interesting to me because it doesn't have a certain pattern for there always is something to make the pattern be, well, not a pattern. Plus there hasn't been any electro visions since the visionhunt decree, if the archons don't give those out, how does the god or potentially do the gods choose which element to give the allogene? Surely that ain't a coincidence
P.s. I'd like to have an Anemo vision, it could be very very practical and interesting. If I'm too lazy to get something I'll just let the wind carry it to me, plus there's a possibility I can move the air molecules to make sounds, tho the chances are quite slim. But I doubt I could make a whole ass song with it, air molecules are miniscule and making them bump against each other with such accuracy would be nearly impossible, so using it to annoy the fuck out of someone or make a high pitched voice to make someone go insane would probably be the limit of making sounds with an Anemo vision
The vision hunt decree was executed to help Ei pursue eternity. This is what I often fail to understand. What connection does the vision hunt decree have with eternity? Could it be a test to see if human ambition can reach thay eternity? Could it be Ei's way of protecting her people so that they may see the eternity she's long sought after?
And for the question at the end, I would like a pyro vision. One, because I've been playing with matches and lighters since I was a kid. Two, I want to burn down my school for reasons I will not disclose.
Edit: I forgot to type this in the first time but congrats on getting sponsored ! I've been watching your videos for a while, first one being why the traveler embodies all the ideals of the archons, but I've been mostly silent until recently where I started getting chatty on your streams. It was nice being able to watch your channel grow !
If i had to make a guess :
Ambition is such a fatal human emotion that it negates the idea of godhood. Visions = Ambitions, and Ei's actually pretty right when she said that "humans lost their lives for their ambitions", both in terms of the VHD and Delusions. So she might want to purse the stillness and 'eternal calm' by removing one of the biggest factors of irrationality and action, AKA ambition.
@@ChillwithAster Ah, so the VHD was initiated to tame the arrogance of humans in order to achieve godhood, seeing as Ei says that eternity is the closest principle to celestia?
@@HikariHoshino18 Could be. Honestly, no clue. But Ei's perspective is pretty accurate all things considered. If the VHD kept going on, no one "actually" got hurt, you know? The only reason people started dying and that there was conflict (IN HER PERSPECTIVE) was because humanity retaliated (Which, you know, they should) BUT objectively, taking a person's gnosis doesn't result in death. her taking it was most likely a form of vegetation and keeping humanity at a docile state. After all, ambition is key to change and action. And since eternity is closest to Celestia, it's possible that Ei believed true peace is through the "stillness" and "lawfulness" embodied in Celestia. ALl just a massive theory though, nothing conclusive, unfortunately.
@@ChillwithAster So the execution of the VHD was an act of submission (of sorts) to the laws of Celestia, which somehow connects with her pursuit of eternity?
So perhaps the VHD was to help humans achieve said stillness that Celestia demands when one ascends, which in a way would help her people achieve the eternity she's fought for via immortality provided by ascending to Celestia?
I thought that the purpose was to give people less power so that no one would be able to do try to do anything against Inazuma or something like that
Wow Aster slowly but surely turning into a real life Venti.The poetry at the start makes me hooked on to stay till the end of video.This kind of videos is what I need to escape from the endless wrath of def% and hp% artifact
WELCOME, TO THE VELVET ROOM.
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nice choice of music.
If I can choose willingly, it would probably be Dendro. Something to do with trees or something more in particular, pumpkins, or Jack-o'-lanterns. If it was trees, hopefully something like William Vangeance magic. Jack-o'-lanterns? It's a bit more special to me, I love Halloween and it's one of my favorite holidays. Throwing them when they explode or turning one into a pumpkin carriage to ride around in and etc lol. The second one I think that would profoundly match me is Cryo, it feels natural. I tried a Meyers Briggs 16 personality test and I found online where it shows what your actual possible vision would be based on the game's lore and knowledge combined with the type of personality you have. For whatever reason I got the Advocate type and it says my vision would be a Hydro......now I can say my astrology sign is a water sign, a Cancer, a crab...don't really know how to make of it. Lol
one thing that make me wonder is that "Vision are for the worth in the eyes of a god" something, it makes me wonder, How can lazy Ninja (Sayu) did to give her one? How did Diona given a vision? Even Klee and Qiqi? Im aware that people can get Visions early like Diluc but we know he has a huge ambition! I know these 4 lil ones have ambition but how are their small ambitions so strong that they were given one? This is the same thing for Yoimiya, Hu Tao, And Xingqui (If i spelled his name wrong i am so sorry) there a few more characters i am curious how they got their vision if "mortals" are supposed to have strong ambitions. Im also curious why people who just so happen to have big names (Gunnhildr, Guhua, Ragnivindr, Lawrence) always have a vision
Eulas uncle doesnt have a vision.
@@LeaksHater True i shoudnt have said the whole clan if only few of em are given 😅
To call their ambitions small is rather disingenious.
Diona's was given hers while braving a Snow storm to save her drunken father.
Sayu got her while on her mission. For all her Laziness. She is dedicated to the job of recon and getting back alive.
Klee feels like a troll. Here's a kid who loved bombs so much she practically started working on them in her
Own workshop before she was mentally 10.
Qiqi didn't want to die and wished that she could just freeze time. As a child, a sudden death would far more strongly affect her.
@@silverhawkscape2677 Thank you for clarifying 😊
@@silverhawkscape2677 then there was Teppei..
For me visions are a mean to an end, such as weapons or skills, it potentially increase the length one can go but not that they are the only way to achieve it
a vision is like both a blessing and a curse, to the eyes of those who do not wield visions, the people who have received visions are blessed because the gods looked upon them with great favor but to those who wield visions..some think it’s a tool, some think it’s nothing more or nothing less, some think it’s an important piece that resembles one’s ambition and some think it’s completely useless and do not show much care for it. visions; what could they serve in the eyes of a deity such as celestia?
is this getting poetic or something? i actually started reading books again and it’s been poggers
about the vision i would like to receive..well then i breath, can i get an anemo vision?
I really like this theory, because it opens up a lot of other theories and opportunities. What if the vision hunt decree was really a way to test the ambition of vision users? Those who gave up their visions also lost their ambitions/memories, a metaphor for their ambitions being crushed by a god (Ei). However those who kept their visions were possible threats to celestia, because their ambitions were strong enough to withstand a god.
There's one thing that still concerns me... if ascension to Celestia and becoming a God meant losing one's ambition, how could we explain the fact that the Archons have seemingly very strong ambitions. If anything, in that retrospect, these Archons seem even more human than humans. Their dedication is extremely strong and they fight for their ideal, which in this case, could be seen as an ambition.
This is a random thought, just to get it out there :
If we go with the theory of the world of Teyvat being/being surrounded by the World Tree, the Yygdrasil(?), and the world being turned upside down, so the tree basically has its roots in the air....wouldn't that make ascending to Celestia close to descending into hell? The more we learn about the Archons and the Celestial Gods, the more I think that they aren't the good guys, and this would put it in an interesting way...
About Kaeya's vision: His carries a different design from the rest of Mondstad's Allogenes (look at the wings of the vision)
Geo vision. It is my zodiac, my personality, as well as my rock. I've had a fascination with the earth element ever since playing Golden Sun as a kid. Similar elemental universe, but I was always fond of the Geo spells you could cast in that game. Genshin to me is like a modern version of that under rated game.
I still cant get over the fact that Diona's world changing ambition would be to take down Mondstat's wine economy
🌸❤️I would concur that visions are not a gift, but were I of Teyvat and acquired one, I certainly would consider it a gift.❤️🌸
To me the way to get a vision is to resonate with an archon’s will/personality at certain point in time .
Awesome video!! Love the constant food for thought this channel offers. Seeing as we still haven't seen dendro in the game yet, that makes it all the more intriguing. I'd love to wield a dendro vision, if celestia were so kind to bestow their heavenly gaze upon me :P
I genuinely wonder how come dendro visions are rare ,or maybe they're just rare from our perspective, but they're not really rare
Here's a theory regarding vision distribution for you. What if visions are automatically given to people who align with an archon's own ideals and ambitions. This might be an innate ability of the gnoses the Archons carry. This would also explain why no new electro visions would be given out during the Vision hunt decree. Because who in their right mind would agree with Ei's ideal of a stagnant and unchanging world?
Until right now, I'm still quite confused about the one who give the people vision, it's still a mystery, but for now, we just have to enjoy the story and explore the world of teyvat!
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Edit: Btw, Nice Videos Aster!
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I think the "person" who gives the visions is Celestia itself? bcs I think in one character's voiceline it says that the Archons aren't the ones giving visions
Yes Venti already explained that.
He said that anyone who has a vision can become an immortal being.
But it's not the Vision that makes one capable of becoming an immortal being. The vision is just a recognition or original creation by that person.
The fact that losing a Vision changes a person means that Visions aren't GRANTED. They are created by the person themself and are an actual part of that person. If the visions were bestowed as gifts then having that gift taken back wouldn't change the person as it would be entirely external.
you don't know how much I enjoy your videos :D it gives me a peace of mind whenever I'm not in the mood. Theories or lores, it's something that I enjoy listening to.
Thank u !!! Your comment means a lot ♡♡
@@ChillwithAster yw!! keep up the great work! :D
I think you’re onto something regarding the amount of reliance on the vision affecting the character but I would mention Ayato along with Itto. Ayato gained his vision from a duel with its previous owner and the man was normal afterwards. Unlike Itto who is a playable character but also full of so much drive that his vision is a handy tool but ultimately inconsequential to his end goals, the guy is regular (I can’t even remember his name).
I believe there are three aspects of owning a vision and losing it, the first is where the element is used so regularly and depended on that by stripping it away it harms the owner.
The second is with Ayato, he won the duel fairly and seemingly lifted the burden of the ambition off of the regular guys shoulders, once free of that burden and visionless he did not suffer any negative side affects.
And then there’s Itto (and I’d be willing to bet Keqing and Ninguang would fit here too) who has an ambition to restore the reputation of the Oni even if he has to paint himself the bad guy. His vision is useful but he would exist as rambunctious as always without it bc some things burn too brightly in our chests to be tied down to a neat ability. I mentioned Ninguang who’s entire ambition is to amass wealth to stay off the streets and predominantly care for ALL of Liyue, so much that it is her political and economic sense that makes her a terrifying opponent in Teyvat NOT her vision. Likewise Keqing and her initial disdain for her vision before accepting it as a tool, she was just as set on taking care of Liyue as she was before obtaining her vision, if she were to lose it she’d continue on just as she always has been.
That’s not to say all playable characters would be fine if they lost their vision, I imagine Fischl would be devastated as it’s by her own power that Oz was granted life and her a good friend. Mona relies on her water manipulation for her hydromancy, Barbara would no longer be able to heal, Bennett would have a much worse time all in all.
I think here's the real mystery
Why did i think the Inazuma Vision was Sayu--
in languages like german, the visions are called "eye of the gods"
Also, I'd probably want a hydro Vision and use a catalyst. I would be a damage dealer though unlike kokomi 😭
Well, I'm a Libra, but also my personality seems similar to both Venti & Kazuha.
Plus considering my own views and ideas about myself & the world as a whole...I believe Id end up with Anemo, and would want it to be that as well.
If I recall correctly in the manga, Vanessa had no vision when she ascended to Celestia (unless the flames around her were a sign of Pyro??) The person I feel is most closest to knowing about Vision is probably Lisa herself due to the implication or voicelines she states about them almost making it seem that having a vision is painfully dire and costly, like if the vision is used for the potential allogene to fulfill their ambition it would require that allogene to pay a hefty price in the future (which may be the person's life or loyalty to Celestia) Then again thinking about NPCs who we know gave up their Vision such as Jiangxue or those who had theirs taken away such as Tejima and the others in Inazuma, they don't seem to be actively using the elements anymore, would Celestia deem those individuals worthy anymore? (or just due to the game not allowing us to see a vision wielding NPC lol) In the Traveler's case, they are definitely a force to be taken note of because of their ability to be Visionless yet able to wield the elements, would Celestia sooner in the game come after a peculiar alien possibly bending or not submitting to the "laws of Teyvat?" and with how Yae Miko stated to the Traveler about our ambition to which we (kinda replied in a way of uncertainty?) is to find our sibling. Then does this propose that we may be getting a vision in the future (which I highly doubt due to the Traveler being an alien and despite the implications of the laws of Teyvat, we don't necessarily follow them all kind of like the traveler being bound by it but also not being held entirely by it) Lastly, if the potential allogene does become a supposed servant of Celestia (kinda like an Archon?) has the ideals of supposedly Anemo being freedom, Geo for contracts, and Inazuma for eternity changed? Has it become similar to the Archon who shall succeed the previous Archon (looking at the Kusanali Dendro Archon, maybe?) because if Benny is the Pyro Archon then the Pyro would be about Adventure of Bouken da Bouken!/j (bad joke lol ;---;) but I wonder what would happen if Vision users have already fulfilled their ambition, or maybe the Vision evolves as human ambitions evolve too until the death of their masters. Like how Kazuha's friend seemingly husked vision has been reawakened? which is like an indication that anyone with the same ambition as his dead friend can awake a seemingly masterless vision.
In the manga, her ascension may have come at a later time. She still needed to have established the knights of favonious and have become.the dandelion knight (venti trailer) so either she's a special case or she got her vision late in her life
Ganda ng theory mo, sa tingin ko yung pagkawala ng vision equals pagkawala ng ambition ay depende sa vision holder. Kung nakuha nila ang vision nila dahil sa malakas na ambition nila, kapag nawala ito, maaraming mawala ambition nila, pero kung ang taong nakakuha ng vision ay hindi dahil sa ambition nila, hindi mawawala ambition, pagkatao, memory etc.
GOD, your theories slap so hard i love em!!
To answer the question at the end, I feel like Geo would maybe resonate with me the most
it just feels right
A great theory! Makes me wonder why the Traveller doesn' t have a vision though and if Paimon is a special vision for the traveller even more, this part of Genshin lore is very exciting to me, I hope we get more and more of that in next archon quests, what we got with Chapter 2 felt... very little
I would like an anemo vision, I like fire and everything, but why settle for that if I can absorb every element! And also cuz anemo is the best Genshin element, fight me
Honestly, one of the reasons I made this video was kinda a correlation to another video I have where I theorized Paimon was Celestia's eyes into the Traveler's doings. Nothing malevolent and Paimon herself is completely unaware of the situation, but maybe !
@@ChillwithAster Yep, exactly the video this one reminded me of, another good theory btw
Yea Im kind of obsessed with you channel theories-- they are just way too good
Congratulations on the growth of this channel it really grown so much since I started watching and rapidly too
Playing Honkai has infected my brain, because every time I watch a Genshin theory now I go "WOAH THAT'S OBVIOUSLY [Kiana/HoV, Honkai, Will of the Honkai,etc.]!"
it's always a good day when i get to chill with aster :) if i could have a vision, i'd want to be an anemo wielder
I’m a simple man, I see Kazuha in the thumbnail and Aster posting and I click- 🥰🥰 also, CONGRATS ONNTHE SPONSOR!!!! WOWOWOWOWOWOW omgggg bestie’s growinggg /lh
EDIT: I would either have an Anemo Vision since I stand for freedom and have experienced a sort of defiance that I, myself, would like to be free from once more.
thank you !! alSO YES this video was just an excuse to put kazuha on the thumbnail cause he's so pretty hehehehehehhehehehe
@@ChillwithAster OMG HE REALLY IS THOUGH 🥺🥺🥺
I have not been playing for long, but my interpretation of visions was that they took as much as they gave, as in a person's memories and ambitions are stored in the vision as they continue to pursue their ambition. This is simply because the four people we meet who have had their visions taken and suffered memory problems, had all dedicated their lives to their ambition for many years. If it was something that got worse the longer you had your vision this would explain itto's unchanged behavior.
if yoimiya used her vision to ignite fireworks when she first got it, i want a cryo vision to cool my energy drinks while gaming
i came up with a theory simmilar to this over a fanfic...
I enjoy the multiple times you use slow piano covers if vocaloid songs
From what I observed from the game, if a vision is taken by force the holder lose a major part of who they are but if a vision was taken through a challenge like with itto and that npc in the teahouse, the holder remain who they are, that also includes people who abandoned their vision by choice.
Based on the personality in which element you can get in game, I would be an electro vision holder and I am quite happy with that because it's my favourite element.
The criteria to giving visions is my main question about vision theories, because great desire & willpower are traits that both pantalone and dottore have, pantalone in special has 1 for 1 ninguang's backstory but never got a vision, to be honest the desire and will to become "The heart of the world that pumps money" surelly seens bigger than becoming a qixing of Liyue.
Honestly, there is no real criteria at the moment for Visions that can be confirmed; For example, teppei, dottore, and Pantalone who are confirmed visionless. So Yae and Thoma's claim that visions are simply ambitions are faulty (just like how mortals claim who gives visions). We'll most likely have to find out in the future what's the real goal of visions and why certain people dont have
Personally, I like to think that Ascension may just be the real contract in which the individual is sent off to fight some bigger threat that we have yet to hear about. Something from beyond that the people of Teyvat are to be shielded from by Celestia. I could be and am probably wrong on this, but it's fun to think about.
This too! I was humoring the idea for a while like "why would they want to find worthy people" but then it clicked. There are other worlds and Celestia most likely has to govern them too for the sake of Teyvat, so maybe !
At first I wasn’t too sold on the idea of celestia being a prison and visions being both a blessing and a curse but this video sealed the deal! I’m in! Ngl this has puella magika madoka vibe which I don’t like were this is going, but, at the same time, please be true XDDD
According to tests my vision would be cryo, which its reasonable for me and, I would figure that if its true, similarly to Chongyun would ?hopefully? tempered the heat of my body so I can enjoy a summer without being a corpse.
Amen summer heat is so unbearable so being cold is pretty nice D:
@@ChillwithAster yeah… definitely XD
I'm actually as equally interested in the sponsor (cuz seriously that looks useful and cool) as the video itself.
As far as the visions being a test gonna go with a Hard Disagree there.
Counterpoint: Each vision does contain a set of ambitions that can synergize with the wielder. This does not always occur as we know some visions are given up.
Here's my wild theory. The Visions are Elemental Beings that are similar to those exotic artifacts known as sentient weapons. The key to understanding them is via one's ambitions as they resonate with such desires. As they will reignite when a similar ambition resonates with them. As such desired objects they are greatly sought after and are likely to find another wielder eventually. What's their purpose? Well if you were an disembodied elemental being with strong ambitions looking to change the world what better way then to seek out a host to help influence it.
(This was written under the pretense that Celestians are invaders of Tehvat and do not originate here to begin with)
I would sympathize with a Geo Vision myself. After studying the wielders they seem to be best suited for public service and protection. Also I would choose a fighting monk style that didn't use weapons other then ones own body and I think the activation of the vision would manifest in both a shield and as a rippling ground quake that damaged all enemies. Aka 'The Wrath of the Rock'
Excellent theory on visions, Aster. As for what vision I'd have... I'd probably take either Pyro or Cryo.
imagine this happened in real life, you got a parole bracelet and you can control the elements.
I did a personality test one time and it said I would have an ammo vision as for the reason why a lot of people say I have a big heart and I would like to think that if I had a vision then my family would look at me in another light instead of thinking that because of certain issues I can't defend myself or others so basically I would use my vision to protect my family and Friends or at least try to also this is making me think really hard anyways this was a great Theory
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WHAT IF VISIONS? Seal your power, underneath the THRONE IN CELESTIA so that the powers of the person (Allogene), which are in truth, pure light! Are suppressed? Maybe that's why Archons are powerful; maybe it's why we can use any element because we are light, pure at our core and able to shine our knowledge against the force of the ignorance sprawling Abyss?
I'd want an anemo vision
Freedom is beautiful in it's complication, cause it's not permissiveness (that'd be anarchy, not freedom), it's curious to explore what it means to oneself in particular. Also, I think I need a little boost of confidence to express myself more as a quite creative person, I'm being too hesitant sometimes
....And yeah, wind is just cool. In every sense
Persona 5, Megaten Law Factions, it's all coming together...Shin Megami Tensei V introduces the Nahobino concept, a fuaion of the mortal human and the divine. In the Japanese dub of Genshin Impact, Allogenes are actually called "Genshin", a term that describes prototype divine beings. This leads me to believe that Mihoyo took inspirations from the Persona franchise and Gnosticism when developing Genshin Impact. After all, the Law Alignment in Persona and Megaten games seeks to maintain law and order in not only the entire universe, but also in countless bubble universes.
@1:56 it’s available in Apple Music also.
8:41 did I just hear you say Devine Legos?
Oh and if I could have a vision I think I would want a cryo one because I could create structures and stuff like that but your probably wondering "If you want to create structures why not have a Dendro vision" simple i get sick very easily and I wouldn't want to create life by mistake and have to take care of it
Yes the true building blocks of the world
@@ChillwithAster Really? I thought they were know as the Devils toys, maybe the kids in South Africa play with them differently
I think Celestia is not having equivalence to Monad, but either Sethian Yaldabaoth for the more insidiously controlfreak Celestia theories, or the Valentinian Craftsman (Demiurge) for the more well-intentioned but ignorant Celestia theories
Or if we tied it to grander Mihoyoverse theories as a whole, Celestia could be Sethian version of repentant Sabaoth, a Great Archon and a child of Yaldabaoth which after seeing the strength of one of Pleroma's Angels to drag Yaldabaoth into Tartaros (Christian Inferno), sing praises to Sophia and gives ascension to powers above "the heavens of chaos" (as with Yaldabaoth and his remaining 6 children which envies Sabaoth's ascension and greater powers granted by Sophia in the 8th Heaven)
Sabaoth in On The Origin of The World text (or Hypostasis of The Archons) also detailed to creates hosts of his own Angels and Pantheons of deities of multitude to rival Yaldabaoth and brings those who are worthy among Psychics (Ordinary Christians) or even repentant Hylics (materialists, either classified as Pagans or atheists) into Pneumatic (Spiritualists, Elects in Sethian and Valentinian Gnostic Schools) status, just like the "ascension" theories could lead to various possibilities of how Allogenes are treated
Aether and Lumine could fit the role of human syzygies of either Adam and Eve, or Jesus and Mary Magdelene, as reflecting Christ being the wedded halve of Sophia after she's being saved and awaits those who elected to wage wars against Demiurgic figure and obliterate it's realms, adding further to the greater threat outside Tevyat with grander Mihoyoverse theories (I mean we literally got Honkai X Genshin collab here in Honkai Impact lol), but this is my personal take after having interests in "Gnosticism" after some time, as Apocryphon of John dictates The World is "neither light nor dark, but dim", which echoes through Dainsleif's mentions of how everyone in this story thinks they're doing what's right, as Honkai Impact manga also hinted of there's fundamental Principle which transcend The Honkai itself, but it has yet to be explained further
I'd really like to learn more about how people obtain their vision for the first time. I'd really like to see that happening on-screen. Tbh I have a feeling that in the Sumeru archon quest we're going to meet Collie and see her get a vision, because she didn't have one in the manga and has a unique enough design to become playable. She would probably have a dendro vision because it would match her hair!
I like that you speak slower in this video and it's well structured ~ much easier to follow than your previous videos ^_^ gogo Aster! ~
Great video. You have a calming voice. ❤️
I think visions are a way of celestia watching people as a way to test and measure their ambition so they know who could cause problems and who can’t but I think they are more of gifts for the user because they test their ambition. I really hope itto’s quest explains more about how he survived without a vision
Well I thought those with Visions have a potential to be a future replacement for deceased Archons.
Honestly, I just figured getting a vision meant that you are a candidate of becoming an asset to Celestia, be it a future archon if the current dies, or like Vanessa becoming one of the four winds. And the cost of having a vision is linked completely to the cost of immortality which is a common theme in the game (what with the corrosion arc and whatnot). I am sure there is some watching going on if that is the case too though.
8:40 I never expected to hear someone mention "Divine Legos" in such a serious tone. 😄
Celestia: kazuhas about to hit a god? I’ve gotta see this *wakes vision*
i would like a Geo vision because it tells how firm and persistent the person is plus having the ability to throw meteors kinda nice
Could vision & constellation relate to each others? Can celestia just- read the fate of the characters & decide which one in what time deserving their vision? For human it would feel like they were granted something as acknowledgement of ambition, since they can't read their own fate but for entity that above the rule or is the rule, it is not a surprise for them, it is what it is a cold life map of someone with many possibilities.
That's why characters gaining vision so randomly, that's why celestia did not smite people who abandoned their vision, they supervised allogenes that have potential, in picking candidates of course there is elimination, voluntarily or by facing certain challenge. Ei, possibly don't understand what vision actually is as she does not the one giving it out nor she have one, she only know it is a symbol of great potential, crystalized form of ambition.
This also answer why some people lost their self some not when they part with the vision: it is severing the connection to their constellation, it sever them from their fate BY FORCE (just like when you are drawing & windows just hang, so the program forced to be closed, it took important progress from you, thank god, it can be recovered!) All human in teyvat have constellation right? and in leonard's story his constellation still hold his memories & ambition, so by taking away vision it is severing human with their constellation. Some people are fine because they willingly part from it like that one komore tea house keeper that put it as part of challenge, it must be act of willingness to let your fate be rewritten, that you STEP OUT FROM BEING CANDIDATE, but... did anyone know that they can step out? no?
When battling raiden the vision shone their owner last wish when parting with the vision when they part unwillingly with their cosmic fate: they want vision hunt decree be abolished, while tomo (kazuha's friend) still desire to brave the lightning glow, tomo died as designated in his fate, but because kazuha's situation the vision light up once more because not only tomo's constellation still up there (even if the human died the constellation did not, proven by leonard's case) but kazuha who carry around his vision happen to be LITERALLY PARRYING LIGHTNING GOD, the alignment of fate in this moment is amazing
Itto's mind is too uplift and carefree to have any affect... with or without vision itto would be the same happy and carefree...
That is a fascinating thought, which opens a can of worms. It can imply 2 things about his ascension: 1. he doesn't ascend because he didn't care enough about his vision (and by extension his ambition) and went down a a jovial lifestyle, or 2. he does ascend because he proves himself capable of living without the gift of gods.
Also! I wonder if there ARE still effects on losing a vision despite seeming uncaring. First is that what if the changes on Itto are gradual? Like it was only gone for a year, and we know Itto might not even be too dependent on his vision, but what if after a decade or smth, we see the effects? THAT we can't prove
To answer your question, I'd want an Anemo Vision
As for my thoughts on this...
Personally, I've seen vision as a curse more so than a gift ever since the 2.0 archon quest, finding out the meaning of visions further made me believe in the statement.
I mean, it's honestly weird, if a vision is a sign of recognition and a gift from the gods, why should it harm the receiver? The fact that it means what it means makes it even worse.
I fully agree with you; a vision is used to keep track of those with potential to ascend to Celestia. Whether it's to one day tamper with them or rid of them is most likely according to how it goes, a vision can also be seen as a trial. Whatever it is, I am sure that the Gods of Celestia wants to neutralize these ambitions before it gets out of their control, since after all, it would be a "waste of potential."
I like how based on this, there 2 entire hunger games hosted by Celestia in Genshin's lore
Oh sweet lord I'm just thinking of Venti playing Number 1 Victory Royale on a flute after winning Mondstadt
@@ChillwithAster this is the perfect opportunity to tell you that Genshin and Honkai are somehow connected to Fortnite
Hear me out
we all know that genshin is connected to honkai via the imaginary tree, now assuming that Aloy is canonically in Teyvat, that means that HZD is canonically apart of the Imaginary tree, besides genshin, fortnite has also collabed with HZD and in fortnite, every fucking crossover is canon cause of the fucking zero point thing, basically, Fortnite is also a part of the imaginary tree, this basically also means that the entirety of the MCU is also canonically connected to Honkai, as well as shit like Rick and Morty
Ik this is absolutely stupid and that's why I love it
For the question you asked at the end, I'd want an electro Vision I think! It'd be funny to have a hand buzzer that you can just use whenever XD
I think if I did get one without choosing, though, I'd probably end up getting a Cryo one, just based on what the in-universe theme with those seems to be (masks, servitude/nobility, and some level of "hiding one's true self") lol
love this vid
They’re called visions yet we’re never told who is doing the seeing
They're like Alexa but cooler
@@ChillwithAster Jeff bezos confirmed release lol
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Unrelated, but I saw the location tag "Philippines" and I'm like, "Yooo! Fellow Filipino!?? :DDD"
Persona Velvet Room music.
@ ~11:00 To me, Celestia's interior also reminds me of a menagerie.
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Hey aster, I believe Keaya's vision border is different from other mondstadians.
One man's blessing is another man's curse. Oh, and a Anemo Vision if you would.
Anemo vision because I really don’t like to be bound mentally unless it’s something that interests me or it’s important and I am very lazy and don’t like to do a lot also I write poetry when I’m bored
I always thought Itto's "lost" Vision was fake, made by Yoymia's friend.
i almost expected you to go "with that I conclude my theory but it's a theory... a game theory!"
Itto loosing his Vision to Sara is similar to the "doorman" inside the Komore Teahouse, Nobumori. Nobumori wagered his Vision to Kayato in a duel to see who was a stronger polearm user. He lost to Ayato far and square and relinquished his Vision to Ayato willing. Nobumori didn't surfer any memory loss due to this. The only thing it let go of was the weight of his ambition on his soul as his ambition was to prove how strong he was.
Itto was a similar situation with Sara as she was the one challenging Itto for his vision. Itto lost so he was a "warrior" about and gave it up willing at that time. But didn't tamper with his spirit at all. lol
Divine LEGO is not a term I thought i needed until now