@@dustinjames1268 Actually most fuel tanks in cars in FIA sanctioned motorsports are vulcanized rubber.... otherwise racers like Grosjean would be dead
@@shawnramito4863 That too It's not just about leakage but also to prevent fires in the event of an accident It's crazy how many modifications have to be made for this kind of racing but it's also necessary
@@dustinjames1268 yep.... vulcanized rubber tanks are self sealing reducing the chances of a fire That is absolutely necessary in a 198+ mile per hour lap in an F1 or a hypercar or something that has to survive jumps like a rally car
Maze Mynx I'm definitely thinking about it here. I installed a performance open ended cone intake and a performance chip. There's no way I'm ready to stop moding my car now.
8 year old comment, but to answer your question: It's likely the research that costs a lot, as well as paying employees. Since you want the top of the line parts against competitors, you develop meticulous parts that push the limit of the rulebooks. Then you have top of the line engineers build them and put them together.
+Davie Blaze the rubber gas tank will be. Been always wanting to expand the fuel capacity to 100 gallons but always got deterred by the custom fabrication of sheet metal panels to create the extra gas tank. It would take hundreds of hours to cut and weld those sheet metal, but with a rubber fuel tank it's simply dropping it in and custom fabricating a hose connector. :]
Ford will provide a factory prepared car for about $750,000. That includes spare parts, some help from their car and set up engineers and a fair bit of assistance for repair, replacement and recovery of the car during competition. Just the car itself prepared for the current S2000 regulations runs about $450,000. Back in the WRC spec days things were a lot more expensive because of all the electronics and additional hydraulic systems allowed.
WOW! Seriously, every 5th comment reads "Ken Block's car at 3:58!!!" I'm assuming you guys are very young fanboys so I'm not talking shit here or anything (let me say that first) Listen guys, I think Ken Block is very entertaining also. He sets up and runs practice runs with props literally hundreds of times before he films his runs. They edit the footage so that shots from multiple takes are combined to provide the most exciting end result video - very much the same method film makers use to make movies. Very cool, very entertaining. But he's NOT a rally driver - he's an entertainer who sells products like Monster energy drink. Rally drivers run real courses on unprepared stages under real world conditions. If a deer runs out and destroys your car and possibly takes your life it's considered fair game and part of the challenge. If it starts raining while you're in the middle of a stage you suck it up and finish the stage and change your tires, etc. at the end as you setup for the next stage. This, and this is merely my opinion, is the only REAL racing in the world (and I'm an American - most of my fellow countrymen consider 1/4mile drag racing or oval track left hand turns all day to be "real racing"). So no disrespect to Ken Block but what he does isn't even close to rally. The car makes and models just happen to be the same. BTW - How come none of you guys seem to remember the Toyota Celica WRC GT4 when your making your lists of all the sweet rally cars? At one time the Celica dominated rally and held the Pikes Peak Uphill Challenge Unlimited Class record for a decade (And he'll that record wasn't beaten until they mostly or completely paved the course - IMO that record will stand unbroken for all time because of this). Y'all Check out the Celica ST-165, St-185 and, my personal favorite, the ST-205! I think you'll dig it!
Neg Ative There is no such thing as a Toyota Celica WRC GTfour my friend. The GTfour was a Group A car, not a World Rally Car. The ST-205 was running together with the Corolla WRC in 1997-1998 until 1999 where only WRC cars could run. That's why there was never a homologation car for the Corolla, it wasn't needed anymore. There are quite some GTfour ST-205 I have seen in Greece running drag races. Since they were doing under 10 secs, I'd say they had 600-700 HP and up, but I'd say I prefer to see that car as a rally car. PS: I don't think there are cheap ST-205 for a rally car project, at least not in Europe... I think it would be cheaper to get a ready and running car like from rallycarsforsale(dot)com. There was a sweet WRX Subaru for like 12K EUR, prepared and ready. And many more of course...
Rally cars used to be around 500 HP. Look up videos from the Group B days of the 80's, when the regulations were much less strict. After some deaths of both drivers and spectators the FIA stopped allowing such high powered monsters in rallying. And as someone else said, HP isn't everything. Rally cars are tuned to have a good amount of torque available through the entire RPM range. Allowing them to get up and go quickly no matter what the current speed/gear/etc is.
it isn't completely remade they're working with something if you've got something to work with, it makes it much easier than just building a car from complete scratch upgrading is easier
R4R45 The vehicle needs to be a production model with a specific amount sold on the public market, that’s why all rally cars are built off of production cars.
It's probably marketing. They want the public to think the road Impreza, Focus, etc. is like the rally version so you will buy one. That is the cynical side of me talking.
Excellent video. I was a little surprised, though, that a rally car would be built through dismantling a road-ready production car, rather than off "raw" elements, such as unpainted and devoid of all the trimmings body-shell. Can't the manufacturer provide these to the rally tuner? Where's the sense in painting a car and equipping it with all the mats and panels when they are only going to be disassembled as soon as they reach the tuning company?
It's two different worlds. you need balls if you travel 320km/h on a track 200 km/h on a stage with rocks and trees and people in the roadside, you need massive balls of steel
anyone who watches this, just know this isnt a very good or accurate representation of the modifications done to a car to turn it into a rally car although some large points are significant, a lot of the information isnt quite accurate or in dept or correct whatsoever etc etc
#Justin6623 Ford is as good as mitsubishi ans subaru... not sure but it has even more wins! Maybe you can split between legendary rally cars (Lancia, Audi, Mini, Alfa) and excellent rally cars (Ford, Mitsubishi, Subaru, Citroen, Peugeot)
1. rear transmission? and 2. leave it too some history channel sounding voice over actress too literally even make rally cars sound boring how did this happen lmao
Seems like such a waste of parts and time to remove all the stock stuff. Why don't they just get the chassis and shell and the engine block since the rest of the car built from either aftermarket or custom made parts? Is that part of the rules. I thought it just had to be a car that is in production. I don't think there is a limit to the horsepower just engine size and number of pistons. Just think is 500 HP on that light car gonna be better than 300. Plus gas consumption takes time to refuel.
sos all pipe is rite lenghts etc clean shell out for weilding its not hard to reach under 1000 mark and id forget about any flash shit u mite aswell test ur skillz be4 u get into that and i havnt even touched sponsorship yet XD the only costly part about it is entering into a race nz its 3~5g but its not hard to negote that u just enter as team and share car or woteva but be4 u can even do rally u have to prelimary driving and get ur rally license nz its doing gymkana
shops u can get disposable argon gas but also there is welders around u can look at geting use from start using the brain and not ur wallet if u go ask wat the cert-ers want to pass and do everythink for every1 then it will go smoothly and u can bypass alot by finding out little secrets like i bet u dont know that car clubs witch do motor sport have this setup to be cheapish steel tube is cheap cert in nz is around 600 even geting it all welded if u do most work still be cheap eg cut parts up
cause they have to use that ford fiesta, citroen ds3 or VW POLO to build WRC CARS and all of them are FWD stock.WRC FIA requires 1.6 turbo engines for actuall seasons. this cars are perfect for that i love subaru, but Subaru's age in WRC was a long time ago finished
and then theres the other option of buying some1s unwanted project in nz cars go for about 1500 with cages in mostly ready to go theres heaps of ways to advoid using ur wallet i have 3 workshops i can use and i dont even have to use mi wallet not that theres anythink in it XD
@aegf aegaeg No you have no clue how to read English. What I wrote says is a larger amount of HP is not necessarly better. Reread it dummy and I don't claim to know a lot about rally in the first place, I'm just a regular car enthusiast.
turbo boost, race gas, plus higher compression and other expensive bits raise the engine output. production cars are very conservative because they need to survive ham-fisted drivers for 200K miles. These rally cars only need to last for a week long rally before they get rebuilt.
Yeah, and she even said "They now install Windows". Let's hope it doesn't get a BSOD when heading for a tight turn on a cliff. Who knows what might happen? :S lol
You are talking about the rules from Group A. The reason why they use complete cars is because they are already road legal. And a rally car have to be road legal.
Hearing an American accent talk about what makes a rally car is comical, spent the whole video waiting to hear things like 'it has to have a V8', 'it has to be a stupid size & weigh more than a continent' & 'it isn't supposed to turn well'. It's like when Matt Le Blanc was on top gear lol.
is that how they make theese small pocket monsters 4 wheel drive, in that case. sadev in my ford fiesta when i get it, if i get it (sadev makes 4wd sýstems and gearboxes and diffs and so on)
Wouldn't it be much easier to order just the shells of vehicles from the manufacturer than to take a complete car and strip it down to create the same shell? I don't get it. :d
They don't strip down a road going version normally, unless it's a privateer team. As this was the official Ford works team they started with just the bodyshell, hence why it wasn't painted at the start
£180,000 to buy but you can build for much less, worse quality of course. Or you can pick up a rally ready impreza for about £25,000. Hope this helped.
Never knew they used rubber fuel tanks
Its an important part of rally
Lot of times you'll puncture a steel gas tank by taking jumps too hard
@@dustinjames1268 Actually most fuel tanks in cars in FIA sanctioned motorsports are vulcanized rubber.... otherwise racers like Grosjean would be dead
@@shawnramito4863
That too
It's not just about leakage but also to prevent fires in the event of an accident
It's crazy how many modifications have to be made for this kind of racing but it's also necessary
@@dustinjames1268 yep.... vulcanized rubber tanks are self sealing reducing the chances of a fire
That is absolutely necessary in a 198+ mile per hour lap in an F1 or a hypercar or something that has to survive jumps like a rally car
Why they ended groub b. Punctured gas tank and fire killed driver and co d
I can hear Samir breaking every single one of these cars through this video
Kevin Lai medium left MEDIUM LEFT
samir must get raise for making the rally cars safer than ever.
FAST SHARP RIGHT
MEDIUM LEFT
SAMIR YOU'RE BREAKING THE CAR
who else here, is trying to build their own rally car?
i want to eventually
+Alien Xing Me!
be ready to spend at least 10 thousand dollars at the extreme low end. Plus buying the car.
i Have built a amazing rally car :) that was really fun. I build a honda civic 1.6 vtec year 2001
Maze Mynx I'm definitely thinking about it here. I installed a performance open ended cone intake and a performance chip. There's no way I'm ready to stop moding my car now.
How you turn a 20/30 thousand dollar car to a 200 thousand dollar car
yeah, it only takes $400,000 of custom parts and 3,000 hours. :^)
8 year old comment, but to answer your question: It's likely the research that costs a lot, as well as paying employees. Since you want the top of the line parts against competitors, you develop meticulous parts that push the limit of the rulebooks. Then you have top of the line engineers build them and put them together.
The company is called M-Sport, they build the Ford factory WRC cars, they're not too far from where I live.
Do you live in Cockermouth..?
@@Dafuq01 I do
I learned something new from this video: 4-wheel transmission and rubber fuel tank. I'm so gonna get one for my FWD car. :]
Its not that easy lmao
+Davie Blaze the rubber gas tank will be. Been always wanting to expand the fuel capacity to 100 gallons but always got deterred by the custom fabrication of sheet metal panels to create the extra gas tank. It would take hundreds of hours to cut and weld those sheet metal, but with a rubber fuel tank it's simply dropping it in and custom fabricating a hose connector. :]
Well... At least I'm not the only person thinking of AWD swapping a FWD
there isn`t a thing called a 4 wheel transmission, its a rear differential
Ford will provide a factory prepared car for about $750,000. That includes spare parts, some help from their car and set up engineers and a fair bit of assistance for repair, replacement and recovery of the car during competition. Just the car itself prepared for the current S2000 regulations runs about $450,000. Back in the WRC spec days things were a lot more expensive because of all the electronics and additional hydraulic systems allowed.
It's not "rally racing". It is rallying. There's "rallying", and there's "racing". They're two separate things.
Thank you.
DarthPhotek rallying is time attack on unpredictable roads while racing is about teams competing other teams to do the best out of their cars
@@hecker2309 Thank you captain obvious.
@@darthphotek you should take that stick outta your ass, making friends will be easier
WOW! Seriously, every 5th comment reads "Ken Block's car at 3:58!!!" I'm assuming you guys are very young fanboys so I'm not talking shit here or anything (let me say that first)
Listen guys, I think Ken Block is very entertaining also. He sets up and runs practice runs with props literally hundreds of times before he films his runs. They edit the footage so that shots from multiple takes are combined to provide the most exciting end result video - very much the same method film makers use to make movies. Very cool, very entertaining. But he's NOT a rally driver - he's an entertainer who sells products like Monster energy drink.
Rally drivers run real courses on unprepared stages under real world conditions. If a deer runs out and destroys your car and possibly takes your life it's considered fair game and part of the challenge. If it starts raining while you're in the middle of a stage you suck it up and finish the stage and change your tires, etc. at the end as you setup for the next stage. This, and this is merely my opinion, is the only REAL racing in the world (and I'm an American - most of my fellow countrymen consider 1/4mile drag racing or oval track left hand turns all day to be "real racing").
So no disrespect to Ken Block but what he does isn't even close to rally. The car makes and models just happen to be the same.
BTW - How come none of you guys seem to remember the Toyota Celica WRC GT4 when your making your lists of all the sweet rally cars? At one time the Celica dominated rally and held the Pikes Peak Uphill Challenge Unlimited Class record for a decade (And he'll that record wasn't beaten until they mostly or completely paved the course - IMO that record will stand unbroken for all time because of this). Y'all Check out the Celica ST-165, St-185 and, my personal favorite, the ST-205! I think you'll dig it!
He is a rally driver. He competes GRC, Rally America, World rallycross championship and the WRC and places well in all events (on average top 10s).
Yea ken block is the points leader in grc right now
becuase he's awesome
joey BOYER
"becuase he's awesome"
Yes he is! No argument there. (I've never seen because written quit like that before tho)
Here here! *claps*
Neg Ative There is no such thing as a Toyota Celica WRC GTfour my friend. The GTfour was a Group A car, not a World Rally Car. The ST-205 was running together with the Corolla WRC in 1997-1998 until 1999 where only WRC cars could run. That's why there was never a homologation car for the Corolla, it wasn't needed anymore.
There are quite some GTfour ST-205 I have seen in Greece running drag races. Since they were doing under 10 secs, I'd say they had 600-700 HP and up, but I'd say I prefer to see that car as a rally car.
PS: I don't think there are cheap ST-205 for a rally car project, at least not in Europe...
I think it would be cheaper to get a ready and running car like from rallycarsforsale(dot)com. There was a sweet WRX Subaru for like 12K EUR, prepared and ready. And many more of course...
4:05 i didnt know u needed to install WINDOWS!
The M Sport HQ is so iconic. I want to move to Europe just to have access to all the affordable rally parts and races. Would love an R2 Fiesta.
"How It's Made" videos just aren't the same in a post-Plumbus world.
Rally cars used to be around 500 HP. Look up videos from the Group B days of the 80's, when the regulations were much less strict. After some deaths of both drivers and spectators the FIA stopped allowing such high powered monsters in rallying. And as someone else said, HP isn't everything. Rally cars are tuned to have a good amount of torque available through the entire RPM range. Allowing them to get up and go quickly no matter what the current speed/gear/etc is.
This is like less than 1/10 of the real work under a rally car lmao
Are these not real rally cars? I'm sure they cut some steps out, but these cars all competed (you can see Ken Block's car in one of the shots).
Why are these videos always 360p? Seriously minimum 720p
haha, installing Windows on a rally car...
all major rally regulations require windows.
They have tight restrictions on how powerful the car can be too, think the max is around the 300bhp area, RallyX cars, however are around 600bhp
What to do when getting your hands on an iMac 4:05
I drove this car in dirt 3 yesterday. I didn't get to kick any windows out, but it was pretty sweet. Haha
Why buy the original car if it is only going to be completely remade? Why not just build your own body if that's all that is left from the original?
it isn't completely remade
they're working with something
if you've got something to work with, it makes it much easier than just building a car from complete scratch
upgrading is easier
Its FIA rule.
R4R45 The vehicle needs to be a production model with a specific amount sold on the public market, that’s why all rally cars are built off of production cars.
They tried that with Group B. It was good.
and very dangerous.
It's probably marketing. They want the public to think the road Impreza, Focus, etc. is like the rally version so you will buy one. That is the cynical side of me talking.
The lady who is speaking obviously knows nothing about cars
wow I always thought that the rally cars had no relation to the road cars
Excellent video. I was a little surprised, though, that a rally car would be built through dismantling a road-ready production car, rather than off "raw" elements, such as unpainted and devoid of all the trimmings body-shell. Can't the manufacturer provide these to the rally tuner? Where's the sense in painting a car and equipping it with all the mats and panels when they are only going to be disassembled as soon as they reach the tuning company?
doesnt sounds like a whole lot for a race car but its tuned so well that the car will do 0-60 in 3 seconds on gravel and 1.9 seconds on tarmac.
It's two different worlds.
you need balls if you travel 320km/h on a track
200 km/h on a stage with rocks and trees and people in the roadside, you need massive balls of steel
"A 4 wheel transmission" ummmmmm what?
anyone who watches this, just know this isnt a very good or accurate representation of the modifications done to a car to turn it into a rally car although some large points are significant, a lot of the information isnt quite accurate or in dept or correct whatsoever etc etc
3:59 oh look there's Ken Block's Focus
This woman's voice is so annoying!!!
+SUV Man You better stay away from the Discovery channel then.
msul78 I watch this on the Science channel when I do watch it. They have a male narrator.
3:58 u can see Ken Block's Fiesta.
im pretty sure that if your in a roll over then that is classed as a crash
Unless you land on your wheels, yes you are correct.
#Justin6623 Ford is as good as mitsubishi ans subaru... not sure but it has even more wins! Maybe you can split between legendary rally cars (Lancia, Audi, Mini, Alfa) and excellent rally cars (Ford, Mitsubishi, Subaru, Citroen, Peugeot)
That's a rear diff isnt it not a transmission?
Hey lady, don't talk about things you don't know about...
Talking about things they don’t know about is literally the job of narrators
samir you breaking the car
Im not so much building a rally car but I am turning my dodge challenger srt8 into a dedicated off road car lots of good tips here thanks for posting
Eric Torres Ahahahahahahahahahha
love it because it's short and straight forward unlike the other vids
Who have only 200€ in their pockets😂
Lmao they dropped the jack with the guy still under the car lmao, fucker could’ve been crushed
1. rear transmission? and 2. leave it too some history channel sounding voice over actress too literally even make rally cars sound boring how did this happen lmao
Seems like such a waste of parts and time to remove all the stock stuff.
Why don't they just get the chassis and shell and the engine block since the rest of the car built from either aftermarket or custom made parts? Is that part of the rules. I thought it just had to be a car that is in production.
I don't think there is a limit to the horsepower just engine size and number of pistons. Just think is 500 HP on that light car gonna be better than 300. Plus gas consumption takes time to refuel.
sos all pipe is rite lenghts etc clean shell out for weilding its not hard to reach under 1000 mark and id forget about any flash shit u mite aswell test ur skillz be4 u get into that and i havnt even touched sponsorship yet XD
the only costly part about it is entering into a race nz its 3~5g but its not hard to negote that u just enter as team and share car or woteva but be4 u can even do rally u have to prelimary driving and get ur rally license nz its doing gymkana
shops u can get disposable argon gas but also there is welders around u can look at geting use from start using the brain and not ur wallet
if u go ask wat the cert-ers want to pass and do everythink for every1 then it will go smoothly and u can bypass alot by finding out little secrets like i bet u dont know that car clubs witch do motor sport have this setup to be cheapish
steel tube is cheap cert in nz is around 600 even geting it all welded if u do most work still be cheap eg cut parts up
cause they have to use that ford fiesta, citroen ds3 or VW POLO to build WRC CARS and all of them are FWD stock.WRC FIA requires 1.6 turbo engines for actuall seasons. this cars are perfect for that
i love subaru, but Subaru's age in WRC was a long time ago finished
and then theres the other option of buying some1s unwanted project in nz cars go for about 1500 with cages in mostly ready to go
theres heaps of ways to advoid using ur wallet
i have 3 workshops i can use and i dont even have to use mi wallet not that theres anythink in it XD
i spy with my little eye Ken Block's Focus WRC
yes so do i, well spotted man
@aegf aegaeg No you have no clue how to read English. What I wrote says is a larger amount of HP is not necessarly better. Reread it dummy and I don't claim to know a lot about rally in the first place, I'm just a regular car enthusiast.
how they when from 90 to 300hp besides the weight loss and the cam shalft, pistons,and the supercharger???
turbo bro.
The old BMW I4 F1 engine made almost 1000 hp per liter
You dont gain hp through weight loss
turbo boost, race gas, plus higher compression and other expensive bits raise the engine output. production cars are very conservative because they need to survive ham-fisted drivers for 200K miles. These rally cars only need to last for a week long rally before they get rebuilt.
Thomas Gionet Those high HP BMW qualifying engines were lucky to last a 30 minute session before grenading themselves in spectacular fashion.
Takumi dealing with rally drivers Be like
Yeah, and she even said "They now install Windows". Let's hope it doesn't get a BSOD when heading for a tight turn on a cliff. Who knows what might happen? :S lol
You are talking about the rules from Group A. The reason why they use complete cars is because they are already road legal. And a rally car have to be road legal.
300 hp from a 1.6L is pretty good.. 89hp stock
The TH-cam algorithm prevents me from sleeping once again
3:13 "this takes a 90 HP compact engine to 300"
Sheeessh!
*SAMIR, YOU'RE BREAKING THE CAR*
As if they wouldn’t show a Subaru.... f0rd Lol
i got annoyed that she doesnt know the difference between 4wd and awd. so its just 4wd to her.
But its not 4wd. Its all wheel drive, and yes there is a difference.
I didn't know Carbon Fiber is indestructible materials
wow i wish i can work on cars all day and get only a little dirt on my hands lol
It's so funny hearing a women say "bearings, pistons, horsepower" instead of "fine, whatever, and sandwich"
the commentator gave me cancer
They should get in the factory while they're building it
Hearing an American accent talk about what makes a rally car is comical, spent the whole video waiting to hear things like 'it has to have a V8', 'it has to be a stupid size & weigh more than a continent' & 'it isn't supposed to turn well'. It's like when Matt Le Blanc was on top gear lol.
Ehy ehy ehy, i know the difference of F1 and Rally, but i talk about the work of mechanic!
Did you guys made that compact makes the car 2 wheel drive car to a 4 wheel drive specialy desing to rally cars...... i mean light weighted ?......
jari-matti latvala!!!
that's not very nice
4:36 holy shit i did not know that 😂
Thumbs up if you recognized Colin Mcrae's world rally focus at the beginning
Ummm I’m a Subaru fan I must drive and kill time with my rally car and YESSS I’ve been looking for this
is that how they make theese small pocket monsters 4 wheel drive, in that case. sadev in my ford fiesta when i get it, if i get it (sadev makes 4wd sýstems and gearboxes and diffs and so on)
5kg =10.5 in weight for paint? hmmm . They should do that with Prius.
Fuckin Ken fuck's ride is there is too!!!
Wouldn't it be more practical to get unpainted car shell from the factory instead getting the whole car and then stripping it down/removing the paint?
Whoever wrote the script for this segment should never write a script ever again.
cost to transform the car into rally car like this..anyone can guess the total price of this car after completion
Manish Niraula 250k
Suomi näytetty. TORILLA TAVATAAN!!
4WD? Don't you mean AWD? I thought there was a difference.
Wouldn't it be much easier to order just the shells of vehicles from the manufacturer than to take a complete car and strip it down to create the same shell? I don't get it. :d
I love it when she said Camshafts....
What's wrong? There are 2 camshafts.
+nakazatoGTR her voice gives me a semi
PerhapsToast
lol i know right?
I see Ken Block's at 3:53. Sweet!
They don't strip down a road going version normally, unless it's a privateer team. As this was the official Ford works team they started with just the bodyshell, hence why it wasn't painted at the start
Can somebody say me which is this Ford
Why don’t they just build the car from the scratch as a rally car?
i have to smile,,,i fit roll cages day in day out.solid car the mk7 fiesta.
this is not ment for you others. but for the women speaking
I would like to, I have a 2000 Honda Civic coupe.
His opinion is.
Rally and F1 are completely different,
Idk why, but this vid makes it look so easy, I feel like I can make one too lol
im guessing you mean morgan... gordon freeman is from half live and isn't the most talkative person
And this is a WRC car sooooo how did they get this information?
shes seriously likes the word seriously.
How much does it cost to buy or build one of these?
£180,000 to buy but you can build for much less, worse quality of course. Or you can pick up a rally ready impreza for about £25,000. Hope this helped.
Half a million bucks... literally, well if it's a world rally car spec, you could go much less for an R5 or an R2 spec from M-Sport.
it looks like the gas tank is made out of duck tape
I should build my house out of carbon fibre seeing as it's "virtually indestructible" -_-
1:48 rear transmission, wait what?
0:50 “tubular roll cage” 🤣🤣tf
lame ford ..
real rally car is lancia stratos
And Ford also made a Group B car, the RS200.