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Since you stated representing Prime Lures, there has been a dramatic change to what I find in the river. Used to be mostly Gibbs -Coho 45, now it's mostly Prime lures. I call the 1/2 chartreuse one the Rodney spoon!
Hey Rod! I've begun to try river fishing more seriously this year. One thing I've been wondering is how much you think the time of day affects Coho bite frequency? People say you have to get there before sunrise, and i just can't fathom being there that early!
When the river is low and clear at the start of the season, the bites tend to take place in the first three hours of the day. There often is a brief bites at dawn, then it'd die down a bit, and more often than not it'll pick up again around 8am for a couple more hours. The rest of the day is usually tough and there usually is a brief push just before dark. Getting there before sunrise is kind of a must at a busy river system like the Chilliwack/Vedder River, because you want to be at the spots when those bites happen early.
The spoon fishing gets better later in the month, they tend to bite lures better as water temperature goes down. September is a tough one to get them to chase.
@@FishingwithRod @chrisheatley706 Thanks for the reply! I have two more questions, in the regulations it says "An "adult chinook" in Region 2 is defined as being over 50 cm except in the following areas where an "adult chinook" is defined as being over 62 cm: Vedder/Chilliwack river" Though, it says above that, "all retained chinook have to be 30cm to be retained", does that 30cm minimum still apply to the Vedder river chinook, or do all retained chinook from the Vedder have to be minimum 62cm? Lastly, it says "The total annual limit for chinook salmon over 50 cm is 10 fish from all fresh waters combined." does that mean I can retain more than 10 chinook per year if they are under 50cm (I imagine not)? Thanks again for the help, it is greatly appreciated!!!
Do you have any tips for fishing super dirty water? I find schools of coho but just end up snagging a few then moving because I am trying to get them to bite but can’t seem to figure it out.
Yeah I do. When it's super dirty, I just go home and back to bed lol... There are a few options you can try out. Fish close to the bank where water is slower and float big pieces of roe, or cast big spinners into stagnant pools.
I tried prime lures for the first time this season. I have jig fished in previous years and find I enjoy the lures more. I snagged very few pinks which was a problem with jigging. And I had great results with the lures. I was casting to about 11 o/c as Rod is suggesting and retrieving at a normal speed. I’ll try Rods suggestion next time I am out. I like the fluttering lure theory, worth a try. Thanks Rod for all your great insights. They have increased my knowledge and results….and fun factor. Tight lines!
@@allenc5108to avoid snagging fish on a jig I usually try to keep my jig above the fish so they come up instead of jigging through a school. 3” pink grub are super effective on pink.
I can do both actually. It's not so much because I'm not used to retrieving with my left hand. I just like to switch back and forth, due to joint problems. I use a left hander for my casting reel.
If you go on Amazon and type in "salmon and trout/freshwater fish species posters" etc then you should be able to find lots. The ones in the background of this video, are made by a fish illustrator named Joseph R. Tomelleri. I really like this work. If you Google his name, you'll find quite a few illustrations from him.
Hey rod thanks for all the great info uve put out over years. I have a question as im new to salmon fishing. I was fishing at a hole where where everyone was constantly hooking up using roe. I was also using roe but only got a few bites. I was changing my depth, i was making the roe look presentable on the hook, and was using the same setup as the other guys. Why wasnt i getting bites? Did the salmon maybe just prefer the cure of their roe instead of mine? What would you do in that situation? Id really appreciate a response, love ur stuff.
Great video Rod! What are your thoughts on using a snap swivel on the leader for quick spoon/spinner change outs? Everyone seems to directly tie to the lure.
As convenient as they are, I personally don't like to put a snap swivel on my line to change the lures faster. For my lure casting, I like to keep the set up as simple as possible. I feel that because you're doing so many casts, the fewer things that can go wrong the better. I do use a snap swivel on my float rig at times though, so I can change that leader faster.
Fabulous video Rod 👍🎣👍🎣. I miss living in B.C 🇨🇦 . As they is hardly anywhere to go fishing lick that, here in England 😢😥. I still brought all of my salmon fishing gear to England especially the terminal tackle, to use for pike & Zander fishing.
Hi Rod, thanks for the coho lures information. Could you let me know the rod length/reel size you used as well has your lb of braid? And do you recommend tying a fluorocarbon leader and if so, how long? Thanks!
Yep! I actually have a video that shows this whole setup: th-cam.com/video/by3jxiuHATM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=hGKjhs4T0b5KKi_T The rod is 9’ long, which is pretty standard. You can go down to a 8’6”, but any shorter it can be a little awkward for salmon lure spinning. I put 15lb PowerPro braided line on my reel, and I tie a section (~6’) of 15lb fluorocarbon to the end of it, then tie the lure to the fluorocarbon leader. Don’t go lighter than 15 for that leader. I find any less it snaps too easily after awhile (from cuts on rocks etc).
This video is amazing since I just started salmon fishing and I am so excited. Once the Fraser River opens up for salmon, does a bottom rig with roe work or not?
@@FishingwithRod sorry for asking another question but I was wondering if a bottom rig would work on other areas such as capilano river, cheakamus river, deboville slough and nicomen slough. Yet again, I just started fishing and I would love some advice but sorry about the questions. Thank you! :)
In rivers where the flow is fast or moderate with gravel to boulders on the bottom, you can’t really bottom fish with bait. In sloughs close to where they meet the Fraser, the bottom tend to be mud with very little current, then you can bottom fish with roe or worm for sure (as long as it is open to fishing with bait). Pay attention to the regs for Deboville Slough, I’m pretty sure salmon fishing is closed there.
The entire river is productive, some spots are just more productive than others at a particular time, which entirely depends on the river level, run timing, etc.
Rivers are so low here there's no way to cast and not snag a rock😢. Rod, if a male is a buck, why is a female a hen, not a doe? Thanks. It's always good to see someone is catching😊.
I got myaelf one of these nets this year, just a different brand from the states. The finish on it sucks, but the net itself is awesome! Do you know if they epoxy the wood to add durability on the moby nets? Anyways, not sure how you get away with netting a coho that big and not getting soaked! Lol
There's definitely some kind of sealant on the moby nets. Not sure what it is but it makes them fairly slippery in the rain but they really are something special in my opinion
Instead of casting up stream, cast apx 1-2 oklock down sream in the deep water far bank. Don't retrieve, but let it drop. When it hits bottom, lift, retrieve just a bit and then let the line loose just enough for the spoon to drop again. Repeat this. Spoons are not spinners and should not be fished the same way. COHO LOVE dropping fluttering Spoons! Those spoons will flutter like crazy when dropping. Try it, you'll like it!
I do that at times too, but I do find the fluttering drop from upstream toward me ends up with more hits than fluttering by swinging and dropping downstream.
@@FishingwithRod There's nothing "incorrect" about it per say, just unorthodox. People are creatures of habit so it makes sense! I was just curious originally if there was some physical or personal reason for it. Keep up the great content!
Yeah unorthodox was the word I was looking for lol. So another reason I do this is to relieve my hands. I have quite a bit of joint pain going on and I find that by switching back and forth, it helps a lot.
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Most amusing thing for me watching this video is watching you constantly switch hands to cast and reel.... 😂. Haven't we been over this Rodney?! Lol
Since you stated representing Prime Lures, there has been a dramatic change to what I find in the river. Used to be mostly Gibbs -Coho 45, now it's mostly Prime lures. I call the 1/2 chartreuse one the Rodney spoon!
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same here on my low tide clean ups, popular for pinks and coho, they are always brand new looking too haha
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well the whole point of is website is push the gear he's endorsing. basically a prostitute.
@@FishingwithRod Time to increase your ads pricing Rod! Thing is, the popularity will just do one thing... Increase the demand and increase prices.
the season isn’t complete without Rod’s lure fishing for coho video😂
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Thank you for the wonderful narrative and explaining the use of spoons for fishing coho.
You're welcome!
I’m getting a pretty big collection of prime lures myself! Looking forward to trying them for salmon and bulltrout this fall.
Is the collection going to double after this video? 🤣 Those lures should work way better later this month than now, they always do for coho.
@@FishingwithRod I have about 15 of them so far so I need to snag bottom and lose a few before I order more I guess🤪
Hey Rod! I've begun to try river fishing more seriously this year. One thing I've been wondering is how much you think the time of day affects Coho bite frequency? People say you have to get there before sunrise, and i just can't fathom being there that early!
When the river is low and clear at the start of the season, the bites tend to take place in the first three hours of the day. There often is a brief bites at dawn, then it'd die down a bit, and more often than not it'll pick up again around 8am for a couple more hours. The rest of the day is usually tough and there usually is a brief push just before dark. Getting there before sunrise is kind of a must at a busy river system like the Chilliwack/Vedder River, because you want to be at the spots when those bites happen early.
Always appreciate the instructional videos this time of year! Thanks Rod! Hopefully I can catch one on a spoon this year 🙂
The spoon fishing gets better later in the month, they tend to bite lures better as water temperature goes down. September is a tough one to get them to chase.
Thank you! I love these kind of instructional videos :)
Glad you like them! Thanks for watching!
I have a question about my salmon stamp, it has places to record chinook and steelhead, do I need to record my coho that I keep or not?
No, there's no annual limit for coho
No recording needed for coho. 🙂
@@FishingwithRod @chrisheatley706
Thanks for the reply!
I have two more questions, in the regulations it says "An "adult chinook" in Region 2 is defined as being over 50 cm except in the following areas where an "adult chinook" is defined as being over 62 cm: Vedder/Chilliwack river" Though, it says above that, "all retained chinook have to be 30cm to be retained", does that 30cm minimum still apply to the Vedder river chinook, or do all retained chinook from the Vedder have to be minimum 62cm?
Lastly, it says "The total annual limit for chinook salmon over 50 cm is 10 fish from all fresh waters combined." does that mean I can retain more than 10 chinook per year if they are under 50cm (I imagine not)?
Thanks again for the help, it is greatly appreciated!!!
Hi Rod, do you think Chum will open for fishing this year?
Do you have any tips for fishing super dirty water? I find schools of coho but just end up snagging a few then moving because I am trying to get them to bite but can’t seem to figure it out.
Yeah I do. When it's super dirty, I just go home and back to bed lol...
There are a few options you can try out. Fish close to the bank where water is slower and float big pieces of roe, or cast big spinners into stagnant pools.
@@FishingwithRod Thanks Rod I’ll try throwing some large spinners in the frog ponds since my local rivers are all bait banned
I tried prime lures for the first time this season. I have jig fished in previous years and find I enjoy the lures more. I snagged very few pinks which was a problem with jigging. And I had great results with the lures. I was casting to about 11 o/c as Rod is suggesting and retrieving at a normal speed. I’ll try Rods suggestion next time I am out. I like the fluttering lure theory, worth a try. Thanks Rod for all your great insights. They have increased my knowledge and results….and fun factor. Tight lines!
@@allenc5108to avoid snagging fish on a jig I usually try to keep my jig above the fish so they come up instead of jigging through a school. 3” pink grub are super effective on pink.
Dedicate one day of fishing, casting left handed, you’ll never have to switch up anymore. You’ll pick it up much faster than you think.
I can do both actually. It's not so much because I'm not used to retrieving with my left hand. I just like to switch back and forth, due to joint problems. I use a left hander for my casting reel.
Great video ! Earlier thos week I floated a run for 3 hrs with nothing ,switch to the spoon rod and hit two back to back . 😂
Where can i get a good poster with most of our fish like the one at the end of the video?
If you go on Amazon and type in "salmon and trout/freshwater fish species posters" etc then you should be able to find lots. The ones in the background of this video, are made by a fish illustrator named Joseph R. Tomelleri. I really like this work. If you Google his name, you'll find quite a few illustrations from him.
Wish id had more than the two prime lure spinners half oz. weight in port renfrew this year best action i had till i lost them
Better stock up for next season.
Rod, what's the spec on the rod you are using?
It's 9' long, rated 6 to 10lb.
th-cam.com/video/by3jxiuHATM/w-d-xo.html
Hey rod thanks for all the great info uve put out over years. I have a question as im new to salmon fishing. I was fishing at a hole where where everyone was constantly hooking up using roe. I was also using roe but only got a few bites. I was changing my depth, i was making the roe look presentable on the hook, and was using the same setup as the other guys. Why wasnt i getting bites? Did the salmon maybe just prefer the cure of their roe instead of mine? What would you do in that situation? Id really appreciate a response, love ur stuff.
I seem to catch more hens with blue here in Alaska.
The best fisherman I know on the island says a little blue and a little green wool is his fav for coho
Great video Rod! What are your thoughts on using a snap swivel on the leader for quick spoon/spinner change outs? Everyone seems to directly tie to the lure.
As convenient as they are, I personally don't like to put a snap swivel on my line to change the lures faster. For my lure casting, I like to keep the set up as simple as possible. I feel that because you're doing so many casts, the fewer things that can go wrong the better. I do use a snap swivel on my float rig at times though, so I can change that leader faster.
Do you prefer to go to the lower or the upper Vedder for spoons?
I fish where I think they are most actively holding at the time, and that entirely depends on river level and time of the year.
Fabulous video Rod 👍🎣👍🎣. I miss living in B.C 🇨🇦 . As they is hardly anywhere to go fishing lick that, here in England 😢😥. I still brought all of my salmon fishing gear to England especially the terminal tackle, to use for pike & Zander fishing.
Northern England Scottish borders Scotland and Ireland plenty of atlantic salmon fishing
You prefer spinning set up over a casting set up for spoons?
i prefer to using a spinning setup.
Hi Rod, thanks for the coho lures information. Could you let me know the rod length/reel size you used as well has your lb of braid? And do you recommend tying a fluorocarbon leader and if so, how long? Thanks!
Yep! I actually have a video that shows this whole setup:
th-cam.com/video/by3jxiuHATM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=hGKjhs4T0b5KKi_T
The rod is 9’ long, which is pretty standard. You can go down to a 8’6”, but any shorter it can be a little awkward for salmon lure spinning. I put 15lb PowerPro braided line on my reel, and I tie a section (~6’) of 15lb fluorocarbon to the end of it, then tie the lure to the fluorocarbon leader. Don’t go lighter than 15 for that leader. I find any less it snaps too easily after awhile (from cuts on rocks etc).
@@FishingwithRod Thanks so much for the information Rod! Really appreciate it!
Just ordered a few Spoons hopefully I have some luck.
Awesome!
This video is amazing since I just started salmon fishing and I am so excited. Once the Fraser River opens up for salmon, does a bottom rig with roe work or not?
There won’t be an opening on the Fraser River unfortunately. If there is one, it’ll be at some point in November which is too late for the fishery.
@@FishingwithRod sorry for asking another question but I was wondering if a bottom rig would work on other areas such as capilano river, cheakamus river, deboville slough and nicomen slough. Yet again, I just started fishing and I would love some advice but sorry about the questions. Thank you! :)
In rivers where the flow is fast or moderate with gravel to boulders on the bottom, you can’t really bottom fish with bait. In sloughs close to where they meet the Fraser, the bottom tend to be mud with very little current, then you can bottom fish with roe or worm for sure (as long as it is open to fishing with bait). Pay attention to the regs for Deboville Slough, I’m pretty sure salmon fishing is closed there.
@@FishingwithRod ok thank you So Much1 :)
When can you fish tidal fraser for bulls and cutties
What weight do you usually use for spoons?
I'm using the 2/5oz. primelures.com/products/the-glory-spoon
Love your videos. I was out on the Chehalis last week and seemed to only be chum... what river are you on?
Chilliwack.
Im looking at coming down from ontario next year. What spots are best for them
The entire river is productive, some spots are just more productive than others at a particular time, which entirely depends on the river level, run timing, etc.
Rivers are so low here there's no way to cast and not snag a rock😢.
Rod, if a male is a buck, why is a female a hen, not a doe?
Thanks. It's always good to see someone is catching😊.
We call them does here.
@dragonflytoo probably because the eggs
I got myaelf one of these nets this year, just a different brand from the states. The finish on it sucks, but the net itself is awesome! Do you know if they epoxy the wood to add durability on the moby nets? Anyways, not sure how you get away with netting a coho that big and not getting soaked! Lol
There's definitely some kind of sealant on the moby nets. Not sure what it is but it makes them fairly slippery in the rain but they really are something special in my opinion
East or west of the Vedder bridge??
Also I found if you coat the Prime spoons with some clear epoxy (from Amazon) the paint doesn’t chip
Switch do you switch hand after you cast .that's weird
I am weird.
I’m pretty new to salmon fishing if anyone fishes the serpentine dam in lower mainland bc could I have some tips please
Nice one Rod.
Thanks 👍
Instead of casting up stream, cast apx 1-2 oklock down sream in the deep water far bank. Don't retrieve, but let it drop. When it hits bottom, lift, retrieve just a bit and then let the line loose just enough for the spoon to drop again. Repeat this. Spoons are not spinners and should not be fished the same way. COHO LOVE dropping fluttering Spoons! Those spoons will flutter like crazy when dropping. Try it, you'll like it!
I do that at times too, but I do find the fluttering drop from upstream toward me ends up with more hits than fluttering by swinging and dropping downstream.
You can most certainly swing spoons like spinners
Yes you can, and it works great for steelhead. I just prefer this approach for coho as I find the hook-up rate is higher.
Great video Rod! I've always wanted to ask you why you opt to use a lefty setup but still cast with your right? Just curious. Cheers
That's just something I've done for over 40 years. It's not correct, but it works for me.
@@FishingwithRod There's nothing "incorrect" about it per say, just unorthodox. People are creatures of habit so it makes sense! I was just curious originally if there was some physical or personal reason for it. Keep up the great content!
Yeah unorthodox was the word I was looking for lol. So another reason I do this is to relieve my hands. I have quite a bit of joint pain going on and I find that by switching back and forth, it helps a lot.
I was surprised to see you do that, I do the exact same. Lol
Is that a vanguard I see 👀 ?
Vanguard?
I spoon before I fork!!🤣
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Bill herzog. That is all.