two months ago I went to the ring, just to relax. When I walked by Apex, the E46 was parked outside and I had to see it IRL. It's beautiful. George was in the garage came out, and took some time explaining what had been done to the car and what the plan is moving forward. That was so cool in a relaxed atmosphere considering all the "stress" that used to be around the garage when you stopped by just a year ago. Really appreciated he took the time to chat and show me the car.
@@RobertMitchell I think many of us miss the "old" apex. But most of us also respect this decision. Those of us who stay here on the Chanel love what you do and are happy that you share all the cool car stuff with us in a special way.
@@RobertMitchell We was out in almost all taxis multiple times. Also rented multiple cars. Good to hear I was not alone. It felt like everyone is running and chasing numbers. Track closing in 2 minutes, Kathi speaking with the marshal, to get one more guy out. It was always one more. It took one yellow, or track closure to mess up everything. Don't put me wrong I liked all the services. I always wanted to have a chat with Robert, Misha, Dyana, George, Tim or Ice Cold... But it felt like im in a queue all the time. Anyway, changed for the better. Everyone more calm, less stress. Hopefully see you later this year.
A nerdy video on underbody aero? Yes please! Ok, I’m probably in the tiniest minority when I say that, but still. Would be interesting to see how Manthey did it on the GT2RS
I really enjoy your channel and it is great to have you back and active. I am a decent driver for my age (72) but I only driven on track twice and getting a perfect line was not happening. So I may be different from many of your subscribers. What I appreciate is the measured professional approach and the credibility that comes from so many laps in a variety of cars. You are modest in demeanor and the opposite of a narcissistic influencer.
Thank you so much, Mr. Mallett! One thing that I think is really cool here is that we do get so many different backgrounds via car related or not. You’d be amazed how many people in the comment section don’t even like cars lol really appreciate you being on board and if you have any questions That we may be able to help with let us know. I think there’s a very good chance that we will do a video talking about lines and track driving techniques :-)
@@RobertMitchellMaybe an idea on that topic; You know how TF feels when being in a really fast car and also slower cars. Maybe explain how to behave on overtakes on TF, when to slow down to let someone pass or when to drive in your own speed and let a faster car pass on the next straight. I drive an e87 130i with suspension, brake, seats etc. but of course being a lot slower than e.g. 911 and m3 drivers. Sometimes I get the feeling that I am a bit too reserved and slowing down, staying on the right side too much and it would have been better to just have driven my pace through the section and let them overtake on an straight section a but later. Also because I slowed down the next person will be behind me to get past sooner. Maybe you could give some recommendations on that, not a lot of infos on track behavior that is from a reputable source ;)
I always enjoy the fact that you respect that fast cars are fun to drive fast and that the place to do this is on a trace and not out on an open road. Too many TH-camrs are into making noise and slowing on open public roads. Thanks.
I had a really hard time the last couple years coming onto TH-cam because of the flash, the bling, and as you guys mention the narcissistic behavior. It sucks because it has kept me away from Instagram and even turned me off to a lot of things around APEX/ the Ring. I’ve tried my best to separate myself myself from them so that I can do what I enjoy.
You calling us Tier1 always brings me a smile. ( the money talk at the end of the build will be interesting, the knowledge of building good fast E46s in Germany where they were born and around the Ring where people go all the time at various levels to race them.. that is priceless - Im sure that knowledge has to be paid acordingly ) Thank you for all the videos !
thank you Rodas! We really do know how lucky we are to be building these cars from inside the Nürburgring itself. The money talk will be interesting but probably easy to guess the outcome of
Pascal really happened to to have you on board and I appreciate the kind words! Be sure to let me know if there’s any topics you’d like to see us on :-)
@@RobertMitchell Thanks a lot :-). I am happy with all the e46 M3 stuff. In my "first" life I was a BMW mechanic and the e46 M3 was the first BMW driving experience for me. So, I am happy with all your content but a deep talk about the lovely s54 would be nice.
Hi Robert, long time watcher from NYC here. Was planning on making it out to the Ring for the first time this summer but decided to postpone it to get more track time and to find a time where it makes more logistical sense. Appreciate all of the great information you provide to us and the behind the scenes tours of some of the best and brightest in this industry!
Nothing better then coming home from a long day at work and watching this content Robert! Top tier it is! On Thursday and Friday me and few car enthousiast are coming to the Ring, hoping to be able to spot your E46 dream build! Would be epic to see it in real life!
So cool Robert, thank you! I'm really excited for this build. When you're putting this much time and effort into every little detail for this car, I couldn't bring myself to use it on track without PPF! Plus the joy of walking up to a neat looking car and knowing that the paint work is safe underneath when it's had a tough few weeks would be important to me regardless of values. Great decision on tying up all the episodes with what is actually going on realtime. Thanks again🙏
In depth aero while keeping a clean profile and in depth suspension talk would be very appreciated. The later is what most ppl really do wrong, slam the car, reduce shock travel, compromise suspension arms angles, incorrect spring rates etc etc. For the E46 is think a lot of gain can be had with underbody work, the font bumper can extend a flat surface to the wheel wells with difusors leading to it. Here is where vented fenders from Mkrennsport or Karbonius can really work. For the rear a sealed diffusor that incorporates the 4 pipes would be nice, from the diff back. Varis is the only outfit that has a 2 piece difusor like this and is maybe worth looking into. Love the videos. Cant wait for the rest Robert, thank you.
Excited for the content. Funnily enough, one thing that has irked me to no end about the CAE shifter in the E46 is the lockout pin and subsequently not being able to close the ashtray part, so some sort of blank off for what would be amazing now that you mentioned it! excited to see the upcoming content!
Hey Robert! Im usually not one to comment, but since you asked. In from the netherlands. Im always very intrigued at your pov and perspective in these video’s. Great vids as always, Keep em coming!Looking forward to seeing the car in person in the near future
Hi Robert, it’s always a pleasure to hear you speak with such insight. I’m the owner of one E36 325i tracktool and I would like to learn more about spring rates, shock travel (should we aim for long or short travel, is it good/bad to see e36/e46 on 3x wheels when cornering) and dependencies with anti roll bars. I always find these topics quite complex. Thanks. Eric
"if you guys want, we can do a whole video o-" of course we want that, we're here for all the in depth nerd content. Thanks for taking the time to get back on youtube Robert!
Hey Rob, great to see you back and see what your up to, missed these types of vlogs, and loving the builds. Not a BMW guy, but the build quality and style is a joy to watch. following :)
I absolutely love this kind of content, Robert. Such an easy listen & so informative as well. The project is really starting to come on now between everyone all involved & looks lovely in so many ways. I would also like to comment on the fantastic attention to detail as well. I’ve recently ( Back in February) purchased a e46 M3 myself so I’m following this build your undertaking. Keep up the hard work & all the best to you from not so sunny England !
Robert, great to see you back posting videos and, can't wait to see the E46 content. Still kicking myself for selling mine 10+ year ago. Luckily, am good friends with the current owner, so, hopefully she will get 'home' soon for some love and upgrades. Cheers to you and yours!
So nice to see this channel raise from hibernation, love the new videos Robert and looking forward to what’s coming! Ah and a whole episode of underbody aero would be awesome! 🙌
@@RobertMitchelli would like to welcome you in advance , i hope you'll have a good time during your visit to JRZ in the netherlands , im looking forward to the video. and yesss puting PPF on the E46 makes alot of sense when you rebuild it to the level you want to achieve , it would be mental not to spend the extra money on PPF after making it look 100%. the Drenth gearbox ( quite a bit of beautyfull Dutch parts on the E46 😊 ) will be epic , it will sing beautyfull songs 👌🏻 oh by the way im heading to your 2nd country ( Germany ) tomorow hehe 😂, filming TF this weekend
hi love the whole process, i spun a bearing on my low miles E60 m5 so the whole car is getting a nut bolt rebuild :D keeps me motivated seeing other people trials do and don'ts etc
Nice to see you back once again. Whether it will be 22 or 4 videos (before pause) - I sure enjoy a bit of calm tech talk. And rational talk about one of thw most irrational things: Trackcars ❤
Great to see you back Robert, watched the last video & didn't leave a comment, but definitely a couple of videos a week, looking forward to them, Rj in Oz
I love the philosophy you are developing with your project. At a much smaller scale, this is what I have done with my green and gold MX5. Performance (not comparable with your BMW, of course) with a lot of dedicated modifications that you can't see, but full elegance outside. If one day I have to add gauges on my dashboard, it will be totally integrated in the car design... I am really in line with your state of mind Robert 👌 Keep on going further, I'll be following your path
As always, really like your approach! A lot of people get lost to more and mire bigger and flashy things to look better in front of others, you build your stuff the way you personally like. I also believe that being the fastest on the ring is not that entertaining in the long run but having a car that feels alive is worth way more in the end. Thats how the e46 will end up I think. As you said, not build for the very best possible lap time but to be a blast to drive. I like to drive my e87 130i with a couple of mods that make it drive and feel nice. I am not the fastest on the ring by far but I have a blast with the manual trans, NA R6 and rwd 👌
This is the good stuff. Robert always shares great knowledge and experiences. Can't wait to see more of the E46 build. Load us up on the tech stuff. Some of us crave the knowledge. Tier 1.
Robert god bless your heart I'm happy to see you back to TH-cam with force, you have nice delivery when you speak brother 👌 is it possible that when the e46 build is done, that you do a video detailing the cost of the whole project? I say this not to be intrusive, but so the video can be a reference point to when i or someone wants to take on a similar project, thanks mate ❤
Yes! We will definitely do it and what we will do is try and come up with ideas how we could’ve done this project more economically for somebody to still enjoy it and not lose so much of the driving experience. A lot of what I’m doing is to try and make the cars clean as possible but where could We save in non-diminishing areas.
@@RobertMitchell I'm studying Motorsport Engineering, in Germany that is. In the 1st Semester at the moment, so it's currently the basics like Math, Physics, bit of Electrical Engineering, but there will be more interesting subjects later on! 😁
Suspension question: how to tune compression / rebound in relation to anti roll bar & tire pressure? My understanding is that suspension tuning is for corner entry and exist, anti roll bar is for mid corner, and tire pressure is quite tricky, a lot of times it just depend on how strong is the side wall. Would love to hear your thoughts!
That might be its own video! But I like it and we’ve noted it. Some of it we can touch on the suspension video, but I think we’re going to be doing a complete chassis set up. Talk about the dynamics of how everything works together.
Hey Rob, good to hear you and misha are still talking, I was under the impression that you two have fallen out. I'm really glad, thanks and have good one!
I am always interested in the money standpoint... Could never afford it, but knowing what is costs is nice.. And we all know it going to be informative, not bragging 😉
I would like to ask JRZ: Managing roll rate. 1. How do you discern the difference in rebound and compression adjustments in regard to slowing roll rate? Adding rebound can keep the inside wheel from extending, keeping the car flat. Adding compression can add roll resistance on the outside corner. But how do you discern which adjustment is needed as a driver in regard to roll. 2. How do you balance valving with gas pressure (outside of cavitation) in regard to vehicle support? 3. How do you manage valving as a roll stiffness contributor along with spring and bars? Does JRZ target specific natural frequencies for each chassis that the valving range is based on? 3. What is the consensus on low vs high speed velocity crossover (how many in/sec?)
@@MikkoSaarenpaa-kn7jh that’s true. I should probably beef up the rear shocks to hold the weight of those briefcases these brands are going to be sending over
Curious on the suspension choice. For me the definition of a RingTool would be - enjoy the drive to Adenau/eiffel, do some TF, go back the same day. And take the car out on other weekends on twisty roads. Does it really need a motorsport line damper (too harsh, not enjoyable?), or would RS be a better choice (too weak)?
Am currently rebuilding a 280z with full techno toy tuning suspension parts which allows a ridiculous amount of adjustability. Finding a decent suspension setup video is proving a bit of a challenge so looking forward to the JRZ video for sure.
Really looking forward to the video series and the whole vision. The generations of M3 clubsport builds. I’ve had two e36s, a e46, and now a f80. I miss how the e36 felt the most. In the US they are criminally overlooked bc of the engine we got. But, I have to say im addicted to how capable the f80 is on track with very mild modifications. Would love to get your and George’s perspective on what mods made the most difference on the f80/82. Something simple like top ten bang for buck or mod in this order.
Especially when someone goes in and out of the gravel traps on the Ring and chucks gravel all over the track, which following cars then throw up at the ones behind them.
The thing about the cost of stuff like this is when you can see where the money went and why, like some stuff may be practically hand built, and the hours and craftmanship, experience, expertise that have gone into it, you can appreciate it. Just buying an expensive car off the shelf and filming it doesn't show any of that. Often the most interesting bits are in the details, even bits that aren't normally seen - like the underbody stuff on the GT2RS MR.
Low mileage on older cars isn't always a good thing, I bought an Alfa 75 that had been stored (and maintained) for at least 5 years, but as I started driving it all the engine seals gave out, this was after replacing all suspension bushings because they were perished. And I should've known better, I had the same experience some years ago when I bought a car that had been sitting for a while...
Nice little catch up video! With the next one as someone who doesn’t know much about suspension I’d like to understand why say kw v’3 for example would be a better choice than something like bc racing, H&R equivalent’s! And would the type of car change what type of suspension you may need for the same purpose? Say George has a mini and Tom has a m3 would a different type of suspension suit something better for track use?
It has been said that the stiffer the vehicle chassis allows you to run lower spring rates. my question to jrz. Have you seen a change on “before vs after “where some stitch welds a chassis or adds a roll cage? IE you made a change to damper or spring rates do to stiffer chassis and change in driving dynamics.
16:00 in those pic you really have the cheapest and most generic non fitting plates you can get there is also the OEM BMW-Plate for centerd install of the radio that reall nicely connects to all the interieur lines and fits to the trim aswell that could stand in for a base to addon the desired gages also a possibility is to take an old OEM Radio - scan that - remove the buttons and you got an ideal surface to mold in you gages - oruse the frame and front plate of that radio to mify it for the gages - then you have the added bonus of good fixation of them edit: I also suspect that the intereur at 16:00 loos like this because the mounting bracket that fits the plate and the AC-Controll was removed - because the ac-control looks linke not being fitted propperly - it looks like it is 5mm to high, also the trim is not seated fully
Of course those plates are crap that are in the car. We are taking all of that which is in the car and binning it. We will then be 3d modeling a plate that fits where the old radio and hvac go. We will then cover it in alcantara. The new plate will angle the guages and the drenth display at the driver.
@@RobertMitchell will you keep the AC in it's position or are you planing to put it at the placement where it is when the 16:9 Navigation is inside the car? if it will be kept below the radio - maybe a good starting point for the new bezel for the drenth display could be the OEM plate from the M3 CSL ( Part Nr. 65 10 7 896 770) that would also keep the plate and the ac controlls seperate what could help by avoiding fixation problems (the ca controlls clip in, the plate is bolted on) and you would not need burden yourself with all the buttonmounts for the ac-controll will the dash be trimmed in alcantara after fitment with the cage and stuff is finished? if so - maybe trimming those plates in alcantara could become a bit weird when there is a whole wall of alcantara streching side to side just my unwanted opinion on the matter - will look forward to when you will present your design idea
Sooo looking forward to this build series ❤. Did you ever do a rebuild series on the GT2 RS MR after the accident?, if so I seem to have missed it?. And as for the PPF issue?, it’s a no brainer for such a build on the E36 that’s going to be used/but not abused on the track.
yeah, I really wanted to do more with the gt2 but the job became a bit of an unorganised mess from the workshop lol.... couldn't ever guess when they were going to work on it. never got calls when milestones were being hit and took a year longe than planned so it was kind of a hit and miss with filming
Another Great video, enjoyed watching 🤗👍🏻 - would like to know more about underbody airflow, how to reduce lift, air around the wheels and air inside the wheel arches. Would like to know how much the height of the front splitter above the tarmac affects the car’s stability at high speed sections. That is an issue I assume reduces the stability of my track car, that I get to much air under my front end. Also, what if you reduce the gap from front splitter to tarmac, how does it impact the effectiveness of a rear end diffuser? What about side splitters to keep the air under the car and not let it out sideways, but directing it to the rear end diffuser.. Would love to hear your thoughts on this Robert 🤓
Come on now I can’t do a summit without Misha! That would violate some treaty between the Russians and Americans that I’m not quite sure the name of :-)
I was so excited regarding this project. So many years watching you. hopefully u will be back ❤
two months ago I went to the ring, just to relax. When I walked by Apex, the E46 was parked outside and I had to see it IRL. It's beautiful. George was in the garage came out, and took some time explaining what had been done to the car and what the plan is moving forward. That was so cool in a relaxed atmosphere considering all the "stress" that used to be around the garage when you stopped by just a year ago. Really appreciated he took the time to chat and show me the car.
I know so many people are bummed at the change there, a lot wanting taxes and rental cars, but I’m really happy that you felt the relief that we do!
@@RobertMitchell I think many of us miss the "old" apex. But most of us also respect this decision. Those of us who stay here on the Chanel love what you do and are happy that you share all the cool car stuff with us in a special way.
@@SuperPascal83 thank you Pascal!
@@RobertMitchell We was out in almost all taxis multiple times. Also rented multiple cars. Good to hear I was not alone. It felt like everyone is running and chasing numbers. Track closing in 2 minutes, Kathi speaking with the marshal, to get one more guy out. It was always one more. It took one yellow, or track closure to mess up everything. Don't put me wrong I liked all the services. I always wanted to have a chat with Robert, Misha, Dyana, George, Tim or Ice Cold... But it felt like im in a queue all the time. Anyway, changed for the better. Everyone more calm, less stress. Hopefully see you later this year.
I hope to see the new calm atmosphere in August.
A nerdy video on underbody aero? Yes please! Ok, I’m probably in the tiniest minority when I say that, but still. Would be interesting to see how Manthey did it on the GT2RS
I saw a video about flat underbody. Based on simulations, miata got rid of 15 kgs of drag which is insane for me
*ROBERT HAS SPOKEN*
and he say BG is first!
@@RobertMitchell 🫡
No The Internet
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I really enjoy your channel and it is great to have you back and active. I am a decent driver for my age (72) but I only driven on track twice and getting a perfect line was not happening. So I may be different from many of your subscribers. What I appreciate is the measured professional approach and the credibility that comes from so many laps in a variety of cars. You are modest in demeanor and the opposite of a narcissistic influencer.
Thank you so much, Mr. Mallett! One thing that I think is really cool here is that we do get so many different backgrounds via car related or not. You’d be amazed how many people in the comment section don’t even like cars lol really appreciate you being on board and if you have any questions That we may be able to help with let us know. I think there’s a very good chance that we will do a video talking about lines and track driving techniques :-)
@@RobertMitchellMaybe an idea on that topic; You know how TF feels when being in a really fast car and also slower cars. Maybe explain how to behave on overtakes on TF, when to slow down to let someone pass or when to drive in your own speed and let a faster car pass on the next straight. I drive an e87 130i with suspension, brake, seats etc. but of course being a lot slower than e.g. 911 and m3 drivers. Sometimes I get the feeling that I am a bit too reserved and slowing down, staying on the right side too much and it would have been better to just have driven my pace through the section and let them overtake on an straight section a but later. Also because I slowed down the next person will be behind me to get past sooner.
Maybe you could give some recommendations on that, not a lot of infos on track behavior that is from a reputable source ;)
I always enjoy the fact that you respect that fast cars are fun to drive fast and that the place to do this is on a trace and not out on an open road. Too many TH-camrs are into making noise and slowing on open public roads. Thanks.
I had a really hard time the last couple years coming onto TH-cam because of the flash, the bling, and as you guys mention the narcissistic behavior. It sucks because it has kept me away from Instagram and even turned me off to a lot of things around APEX/ the Ring. I’ve tried my best to separate myself myself from them so that I can do what I enjoy.
@@RobertMitchell Its guys like you, Misha and Schmee that follow rules. Kudos for being a good example.
You calling us Tier1 always brings me a smile.
( the money talk at the end of the build will be interesting, the knowledge of building good fast E46s in Germany where they were born and around the Ring where people go all the time at various levels to race them.. that is priceless - Im sure that knowledge has to be paid acordingly )
Thank you for all the videos !
thank you Rodas! We really do know how lucky we are to be building these cars from inside the Nürburgring itself. The money talk will be interesting but probably easy to guess the outcome of
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@@rodasrodas you write very well!!!!
You are so grounded and always have such a relaxed manner. I'm always happy to listen to you. Thank you😊
Pascal really happened to to have you on board and I appreciate the kind words! Be sure to let me know if there’s any topics you’d like to see us on :-)
@@RobertMitchell Thanks a lot :-). I am happy with all the e46 M3 stuff. In my "first" life I was a BMW mechanic and the e46 M3 was the first BMW driving experience for me. So, I am happy with all your content but a deep talk about the lovely s54 would be nice.
Hi Robert, long time watcher from NYC here. Was planning on making it out to the Ring for the first time this summer but decided to postpone it to get more track time and to find a time where it makes more logistical sense. Appreciate all of the great information you provide to us and the behind the scenes tours of some of the best and brightest in this industry!
Nothing better then coming home from a long day at work and watching this content Robert! Top tier it is! On Thursday and Friday me and few car enthousiast are coming to the Ring, hoping to be able to spot your E46 dream build! Would be epic to see it in real life!
So cool Robert, thank you! I'm really excited for this build. When you're putting this much time and effort into every little detail for this car, I couldn't bring myself to use it on track without PPF! Plus the joy of walking up to a neat looking car and knowing that the paint work is safe underneath when it's had a tough few weeks would be important to me regardless of values.
Great decision on tying up all the episodes with what is actually going on realtime. Thanks again🙏
The wait was absolutely worth it.
I'm so excited about the upcoming content. Keep them videos coming Robert. Tier one is always here for support
Tier, one forever
Absolutely would love an aero video
In depth aero while keeping a clean profile and in depth suspension talk would be very appreciated. The later is what most ppl really do wrong, slam the car, reduce shock travel, compromise suspension arms angles, incorrect spring rates etc etc.
For the E46 is think a lot of gain can be had with underbody work, the font bumper can extend a flat surface to the wheel wells with difusors leading to it. Here is where vented fenders from Mkrennsport or Karbonius can really work. For the rear a sealed diffusor that incorporates the 4 pipes would be nice, from the diff back. Varis is the only outfit that has a 2 piece difusor like this and is maybe worth looking into.
Love the videos. Cant wait for the rest Robert, thank you.
Excited for the content. Funnily enough, one thing that has irked me to no end about the CAE shifter in the E46 is the lockout pin and subsequently not being able to close the ashtray part, so some sort of blank off for what would be amazing now that you mentioned it!
excited to see the upcoming content!
Hey Robert!
Im usually not one to comment, but since you asked. In from the netherlands. Im always very intrigued at your pov and perspective in these video’s. Great vids as always, Keep em coming!Looking forward to seeing the car in person in the near future
Excellent insight into technical, sporty automotive culture with an American touch. Great! Keep the quality high, no clickbait and stay authentic…
Thank you RP! Btw do you need a vpn?
@@RobertMitchell I am paranoiac… that’s why 😉
Great to have you back in the awesome, familiar format - I really enjoy the detail you go in to and the straightforward hype-less content - thanks!!
Can't tell you how happy I am to see the 2RS in the background...BEAUTY!!
Just gonna keep commenting saying how good it is to see you uploading again. Great content.
Again, can’t thank you enough for being on the channel!
Hi Robert, it’s always a pleasure to hear you speak with such insight. I’m the owner of one E36 325i tracktool and I would like to learn more about spring rates, shock travel (should we aim for long or short travel, is it good/bad to see e36/e46 on 3x wheels when cornering) and dependencies with anti roll bars. I always find these topics quite complex. Thanks. Eric
Great one Eric! It sure seems like if you see a car on three wheels it’s lacking some sort of traction doesn’t it? We’re gonna get into that.
"if you guys want, we can do a whole video o-" of course we want that, we're here for all the in depth nerd content. Thanks for taking the time to get back on youtube Robert!
Hey Rob, great to see you back and see what your up to, missed these types of vlogs, and loving the builds. Not a BMW guy, but the build quality and style is a joy to watch. following :)
I absolutely love this kind of content, Robert. Such an easy listen & so informative as well. The project is really starting to come on now between everyone all involved & looks lovely in so many ways. I would also like to comment on the fantastic attention to detail as well. I’ve recently ( Back in February) purchased a e46 M3 myself so I’m following this build your undertaking. Keep up the hard work & all the best to you from not so sunny England !
Glad to see you doing well and look forward to the updates! Nerdy detail is what we are here for! Not clickbait 😂
Robert, great to see you back posting videos and, can't wait to see the E46 content. Still kicking myself for selling mine 10+ year ago. Luckily, am good friends with the current owner, so, hopefully she will get 'home' soon for some love and upgrades. Cheers to you and yours!
Great idea focusing on the underbody aero. Maintaining the aesthetic but getting improved driveability is always a plus.
So nice to see this channel raise from hibernation, love the new videos Robert and looking forward to what’s coming!
Ah and a whole episode of underbody aero would be awesome! 🙌
Thank you! Def got the votes in on the aero video so we gonna make it happen
leaning back on the couch for another Robert Mitchell video , talking about stuff i dont have, money 😂
Big Love from the Netherlands ❤
Hehe. Enjoy it twan! Heading to your country tomorrow:-)
@@RobertMitchelli would like to welcome you in advance , i hope you'll have a good time during your visit to JRZ in the netherlands , im looking forward to the video.
and yesss puting PPF on the E46 makes alot of sense when you rebuild it to the level you want to achieve , it would be mental not to spend the extra money on PPF after making it look 100%.
the Drenth gearbox ( quite a bit of beautyfull Dutch parts on the E46 😊 ) will be epic , it will sing beautyfull songs 👌🏻
oh by the way im heading to your 2nd country ( Germany ) tomorow hehe 😂, filming TF this weekend
hi
love the whole process, i spun a bearing on my low miles E60 m5 so the whole car is getting a nut bolt rebuild :D
keeps me motivated seeing other people trials do and don'ts etc
Tier 1 🙌
I'm really looking forward to the JRZ vid.
Sounds like a lot of good stuff in the works, nice to see you making content again!
happy to be out here.. looking forward to the trip to holland tomorrow as well
Nice to see you back once again. Whether it will be 22 or 4 videos (before pause) - I sure enjoy a bit of calm tech talk.
And rational talk about one of thw most irrational things: Trackcars ❤
Haha, Robert, I called a pause but not after the announcement video! Come back to us!
Great to see you back Robert, watched the last video & didn't leave a comment, but definitely a couple of videos a week, looking forward to them, Rj in Oz
I love the philosophy you are developing with your project. At a much smaller scale, this is what I have done with my green and gold MX5. Performance (not comparable with your BMW, of course) with a lot of dedicated modifications that you can't see, but full elegance outside. If one day I have to add gauges on my dashboard, it will be totally integrated in the car design... I am really in line with your state of mind Robert 👌 Keep on going further, I'll be following your path
Hi Robert. I'm a subscriber from Cape Town, South Africa. I'm so happy you back,now we know what's going on at Apex. Thanks a lot.
How are things down there in Cape Town? Somewhere I’ve never been but always intrigued me
Late on the game but just dropping by to say hi Robert 👋🏻
As always, really like your approach! A lot of people get lost to more and mire bigger and flashy things to look better in front of others, you build your stuff the way you personally like. I also believe that being the fastest on the ring is not that entertaining in the long run but having a car that feels alive is worth way more in the end. Thats how the e46 will end up I think. As you said, not build for the very best possible lap time but to be a blast to drive.
I like to drive my e87 130i with a couple of mods that make it drive and feel nice. I am not the fastest on the ring by far but I have a blast with the manual trans, NA R6 and rwd 👌
This is the good stuff. Robert always shares great knowledge and experiences. Can't wait to see more of the E46 build. Load us up on the tech stuff. Some of us crave the knowledge. Tier 1.
So good to have you back. thanks
Robert god bless your heart I'm happy to see you back to TH-cam with force, you have nice delivery when you speak brother 👌 is it possible that when the e46 build is done, that you do a video detailing the cost of the whole project? I say this not to be intrusive, but so the video can be a reference point to when i or someone wants to take on a similar project, thanks mate ❤
Yes! We will definitely do it and what we will do is try and come up with ideas how we could’ve done this project more economically for somebody to still enjoy it and not lose so much of the driving experience. A lot of what I’m doing is to try and make the cars clean as possible but where could We save in non-diminishing areas.
Bit sad that the notifs are coming smack in the middle of the exam period, but then it just means more to look forward to after. Keep them coming 💯
Hey Moe, what are you studying for?
@@RobertMitchell I'm studying Motorsport Engineering, in Germany that is. In the 1st Semester at the moment, so it's currently the basics like Math, Physics, bit of Electrical Engineering, but there will be more interesting subjects later on! 😁
@@moe_lester45 man that’s really cool! I wish you luck.
I know there’s a lot of fantastic directions you can go with what you’re learning
@@RobertMitchell Looking forward to the future as well, but one step at a time :)
Get the nerdy tech videos out! NERRRRRRRRDDDDD!! 😂😂
Time to nerd out lol
Suspension question: how to tune compression / rebound in relation to anti roll bar & tire pressure?
My understanding is that suspension tuning is for corner entry and exist, anti roll bar is for mid corner, and tire pressure is quite tricky, a lot of times it just depend on how strong is the side wall.
Would love to hear your thoughts!
That might be its own video! But I like it and we’ve noted it. Some of it we can touch on the suspension video, but I think we’re going to be doing a complete chassis set up. Talk about the dynamics of how everything works together.
@@RobertMitchell looking forward to it!👍
Thank You, Robert. These are the most interesting videos on youtube. Keep these coming ! Would love to meet you sometime at the Ring.
Great to hear what we going to see about the built of the car. It would be interesting to learn how a flat undertray helps with the stability of cars😊
that is for sure something that we are going to talk about!!
This is awesome, Robert! Can’t wait to see what you did to the E46. Looking forward to the E36 as well!
Tier 1 since day 1!
im having fun planning the 36 right now for sure. Proper Tier One!!!
Hey Rob, good to hear you and misha are still talking, I was under the impression that you two have fallen out. I'm really glad, thanks and have good one!
Misha is a great friend and there has not even as much as a raised voice between us!
glad to see you still making content, hope to get back to Germany and visit you and Misha
I am always interested in the money standpoint... Could never afford it, but knowing what is costs is nice..
And we all know it going to be informative, not bragging 😉
I would like to ask JRZ:
Managing roll rate.
1. How do you discern the difference in rebound and compression adjustments in regard to slowing roll rate?
Adding rebound can keep the inside wheel from extending, keeping the car flat. Adding compression can add roll resistance on the outside corner. But how do you discern which adjustment is needed as a driver in regard to roll.
2. How do you balance valving with gas pressure (outside of cavitation) in regard to vehicle support?
3. How do you manage valving as a roll stiffness contributor along with spring and bars? Does JRZ target specific natural frequencies for each chassis that the valving range is based on?
3. What is the consensus on low vs high speed velocity crossover (how many in/sec?)
Idea for the dashboard, put a card slot for the season ticket there so you don't have to fiddle with putting it into a pocket or wallet or whatever.
my man!
Or a space for the upcoming pile of TH-cam influencer cash? 😉💰💵
@@MikkoSaarenpaa-kn7jh that’s true. I should probably beef up the rear shocks to hold the weight of those briefcases these brands are going to be sending over
Curious to see the visit to JRZ. Since this winter I have a JRZ suspension on my M2 and absolutely love it :)
Good to see You Robert 😊
Love really much that you are back and the plan with the BMW are back on Track love to follow it
Great idea for the episodes feeding into eachother. Appreciate the iteration through our feedback
Getting rid of lift! Great point...its not always about creating downforce.
Curious on the suspension choice. For me the definition of a RingTool would be - enjoy the drive to Adenau/eiffel, do some TF, go back the same day. And take the car out on other weekends on twisty roads. Does it really need a motorsport line damper (too harsh, not enjoyable?), or would RS be a better choice (too weak)?
Hi Robert! Another great video! Looking forward to the next video! Always a pleasure watching this channel!
Is a pleasure having you on it Mr Jacob
@@RobertMitchell thanks Robert, but just Frederik is more than ok 😉
Am currently rebuilding a 280z with full techno toy tuning suspension parts which allows a ridiculous amount of adjustability. Finding a decent suspension setup video is proving a bit of a challenge so looking forward to the JRZ video for sure.
Really looking forward to the video series and the whole vision. The generations of M3 clubsport builds. I’ve had two e36s, a e46, and now a f80. I miss how the e36 felt the most. In the US they are criminally overlooked bc of the engine we got. But, I have to say im addicted to how capable the f80 is on track with very mild modifications. Would love to get your and George’s perspective on what mods made the most difference on the f80/82. Something simple like top ten bang for buck or mod in this order.
PPF on a track car makes tons of sense. I don't know how that can be questioned. Seems like a great candidate for it.
Especially when someone goes in and out of the gravel traps on the Ring and chucks gravel all over the track, which following cars then throw up at the ones behind them.
Great video Robert. Bring cocktails back into the game! 😊🔥 Tier 1 as always!🤘🏻
hey Robert, glad to see you’re back on YT. looking fit mate 👍
Yes, please do a video on underfloor airflow
The thing about the cost of stuff like this is when you can see where the money went and why, like some stuff may be practically hand built, and the hours and craftmanship, experience, expertise that have gone into it, you can appreciate it. Just buying an expensive car off the shelf and filming it doesn't show any of that. Often the most interesting bits are in the details, even bits that aren't normally seen - like the underbody stuff on the GT2RS MR.
Could you get some input from them on stiffer suspension with a smaller swaybar or a softer suspension with a bigger swaybar?
we will for sure get into that. we have that kind of talk lined up also for car set up talks
Big interest in this, this feels like the old school king argument (do it with springs, or do it with bars).
Greetings from the Netherlands , Robert you make me Excited for the car .
👍🏻👍🏻
You’re not too far away! I hope that you get out sometime to check it out in person
Low mileage on older cars isn't always a good thing, I bought an Alfa 75 that had been stored (and maintained) for at least 5 years, but as I started driving it all the engine seals gave out, this was after replacing all suspension bushings because they were perished. And I should've known better, I had the same experience some years ago when I bought a car that had been sitting for a while...
As always, much to learn from Robert’s thinking.
Thanks for including my comment!
Thank you for bringing the good conversation!
Hi Robert! Downforce and diffusers are always interesting😀
Nice little catch up video! With the next one as someone who doesn’t know much about suspension I’d like to understand why say kw v’3 for example would be a better choice than something like bc racing, H&R equivalent’s! And would the type of car change what type of suspension you may need for the same purpose? Say George has a mini and Tom has a m3 would a different type of suspension suit something better for track use?
Would love the airflow management chat! E46 would be really hard as the rear suspension is quite exposed and would hard to design around.
Good to see you back! 😃
JRZ is great. Tractive Suspension is a very interesting company too for a suspension video, they supply to Pagani, Dallara, Donkervoort, etc.
I ran the Dallara a handful of years ago on track when I did a factory visit. awesome car and I enjoyed the suspension
Good to see You posting content again Cheers 🍻
It has been said that the stiffer the vehicle chassis allows you to run lower spring rates. my question to jrz. Have you seen a change on “before vs after “where some stitch welds a chassis or adds a roll cage? IE you made a change to damper or spring rates do to stiffer chassis and change in driving dynamics.
0:18 only Rob can call two automotive icons, the envy of many fanboys & girls “beaters” 😆
just keeping it real hahah
Did you really say "I bought 13 dream cars this year"!? That´s many videos I´m looking forward to see 😲
Definitely Jrz and underbody aero videos please
Hi Robert,
thanks for the insights again :)
Love the range of cars in the background!
thanks Frank!! For a long time I had way too much of the same, nice to have a bit of variety
Keep them coming, i’ll be watching! 🏁
Liking the idea of the dash display.
Did you say you’d bought 13 cars?
Great vid dude, it was ‘tier 1’ 😘
13 dream cars, lol. And I’m now selling VPNs and vitamin supplements
16:00 in those pic you really have the cheapest and most generic non fitting plates you can get
there is also the OEM BMW-Plate for centerd install of the radio that reall nicely connects to all the interieur lines and fits to the trim aswell
that could stand in for a base to addon the desired gages
also a possibility is to take an old OEM Radio - scan that - remove the buttons and you got an ideal surface to mold in you gages - oruse the frame and front plate of that radio to mify it for the gages - then you have the added bonus of good fixation of them
edit: I also suspect that the intereur at 16:00 loos like this because the mounting bracket that fits the plate and the AC-Controll was removed - because the ac-control looks linke not being fitted propperly - it looks like it is 5mm to high, also the trim is not seated fully
Of course those plates are crap that are in the car. We are taking all of that which is in the car and binning it. We will then be 3d modeling a plate that fits where the old radio and hvac go. We will then cover it in alcantara.
The new plate will angle the guages and the drenth display at the driver.
@@RobertMitchell will you keep the AC in it's position or are you planing to put it at the placement where it is when the 16:9 Navigation is inside the car?
if it will be kept below the radio - maybe a good starting point for the new bezel for the drenth display could be the OEM plate from the M3 CSL ( Part Nr. 65 10 7 896 770)
that would also keep the plate and the ac controlls seperate what could help by avoiding fixation problems (the ca controlls clip in, the plate is bolted on)
and you would not need burden yourself with all the buttonmounts for the ac-controll
will the dash be trimmed in alcantara after fitment with the cage and stuff is finished?
if so - maybe trimming those plates in alcantara could become a bit weird when there is a whole wall of alcantara streching side to side
just my unwanted opinion on the matter - will look forward to when you will present your design idea
Robert's sporting the new snack resistant body 👍
Didnt you promise build videos on this channel? It went silent again...
Under body airflow is huge!! Take away the under tray, do 100mph up the autobahn. Then bolt it back on and go again. The difference will be huge.
Robert is master of the long story, but let's hope he will not disappear and only heat the ground and that's it.
And here I thought I was giving you the long story short lol
Yes do one on more affordable build
This is going to be REALLY,really fun.
under floor air flow management wud be cool.
Looking forward to the upcoming videos!
right on Ian! Have a great night
Sooo looking forward to this build series ❤.
Did you ever do a rebuild series on the GT2 RS MR after the accident?, if so I seem to have missed it?.
And as for the PPF issue?, it’s a no brainer for such a build on the E36 that’s going to be used/but not abused on the track.
yeah, I really wanted to do more with the gt2 but the job became a bit of an unorganised mess from the workshop lol.... couldn't ever guess when they were going to work on it. never got calls when milestones were being hit and took a year longe than planned so it was kind of a hit and miss with filming
Ahh….thats ok…I imagine the rebuild was stressful enough without the added hassle of filming. Good to see it in the background though, 😊
Sure I will put PPF on your E46! My E30 Touring got PPF …
Smart man;-)
Another Great video, enjoyed watching 🤗👍🏻
- would like to know more about underbody airflow, how to reduce lift, air around the wheels and air inside the wheel arches.
Would like to know how much the height of the front splitter above the tarmac affects the car’s stability at high speed sections. That is an issue I assume reduces the stability of my track car, that I get to much air under my front end.
Also, what if you reduce the gap from front splitter to tarmac, how does it impact the effectiveness of a rear end diffuser?
What about side splitters to keep the air under the car and not let it out sideways, but directing it to the rear end diffuser..
Would love to hear your thoughts on this Robert 🤓
cant wait to see that JRZ video 🔥
let me know if there is anything we can touch on !
I think you should also bring back the summit vids, but with George as co-host 👍🏻
Come on now I can’t do a summit without Misha! That would violate some treaty between the Russians and Americans that I’m not quite sure the name of :-)
Like the idea for the new format 💙❤️
Please talk about the ride height adjustment difference between where the whole shock moves vs traditional spring adjustment
Please!