Alcohol and Queerness: A deep dive

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    00:00 Intro
    00:10 Welcome to the wonderful world of gay bars!
    03:22 The History of Gay Bars
    09:41 Alcohol and the Law
    13:13 The Mafia, Gay Bars, and Gay Liberation
    21:16 Drinking Culture, Community, and Access
    28:49 Conclusion
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ความคิดเห็น • 521

  • @Waterflame
    @Waterflame 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +121

    Over 24 hours and no proper captions? 😭😭😭😭😭

    • @jessicaoutofthecloset
      @jessicaoutofthecloset  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +210

      Thank you so much for flagging this, it's fixed now. The captions were ready at the same time as the video, but TH-cam left them as a draft for some reason. Phew, thanks again!

    • @ronjaj.addams-ramstedt1023
      @ronjaj.addams-ramstedt1023 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      ​@@jessicaoutofthecloset FYI: also Just Icelandic had a similar caption no-show within the last few days.

    • @prabhjotsingh6835
      @prabhjotsingh6835 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@jessicaoutofthecloset THANK YOU!!! :D

    • @Waterflame
      @Waterflame 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@jessicaoutofthecloset Thank you! I love your videos, and the captions are so lovely. I just can't watch without them!

  • @jesslikescoffee24
    @jesslikescoffee24 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1249

    I’m still waiting on the rise of gay cafes ☕️ (queer cafes in actuality, but I love the rhyme of gay cafe). Bars are great for sensory seekers, but I want a ubiquitous place for sensory avoiders too.

    • @aosfs2924
      @aosfs2924 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

      I very much support this but it would alas not work for me as I find cafes almost as overwhelming for some reason 😂

    • @mrpocock
      @mrpocock 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +113

      queer quafe

    • @catdownthestreet
      @catdownthestreet 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

      ​@@mrpocock petition for this to be the new thing

    • @Hunterofartemischildofhades
      @Hunterofartemischildofhades 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      ​@@catdownthestreetconsider it signed.

    • @MOTHHMAN
      @MOTHHMAN 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      Yessss! This! I'm usually sensory avoidant when it comes to social settings, so a gay café sounds perfect for me❤

  • @cassandramiller4477
    @cassandramiller4477 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +316

    We need queer coffee houses! Queer game stores! Queer bookstores! Places that aren't bars! We have one of the older lesbian bars in Seattle, a place for cis and trans women alike...and I hate bars, so it's really hard to want to hang out there.

    • @MissaBrevis
      @MissaBrevis 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      I was traveling recently, and saw there was a queer bookstore near where I was staying, with a flyer for an open game night ... and then when I went in it turned out to also be a bar? No loud music or lights or whatever, so it was fine on a sensory level, but as someone who mostly doesn't drink it still kind of felt like the rug had been pulled out from under me. (I don't blame them, I'm sure that the money from alcohol sales subsidizes the rest of what they do, but it was still uncomfortable)

    • @nynomi
      @nynomi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      There is a queer coffeehouse here in Rochester, NY, and there is also a restaurant that's queer-owned and very welcoming which serves mocktails in addition to alcohol (but it is a little pricey).

    • @missnaomi613
      @missnaomi613 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This reminded me: My first apartment was right around the corner from a lesbian book store! Back then I thought I was 100% straight (💗💜💙) but I loved it!

    • @ohpurpled
      @ohpurpled 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Sometimes I think about running a little shop selling hobbyist electronics/‘maker’ things …and also pride badges/flags/whatever.
      Such a shop wouldn't be big enough to host anything per se, but even so I like the idea of casually injecting some queerness in an unexpected place, and not just during July?
      Of course in practice I've too much neurospicy and too little money to ever actually do a shop, but do like the idea.

    • @nodoboho
      @nodoboho 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ohpurpled _July_ ? 0_o? In the U.S. at least, *June* is Pride Month. Are you a baby gay, dear? Or is July Pride Month somewhere?

  • @kida4star
    @kida4star 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +163

    As a bi woman, I totally understand why we may experience higher percentage of depression and substance abuse. I’ve been rejected by both straight individuals and other queers. Like I’m not queer enough to be LGBTQ, but I’m too queer to pass. Ug. I’m super here for a queer cafe!

    • @yoyohayli
      @yoyohayli 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I have a kind of opposite problem where I am bi, but have only ever dated cis men...and after my last relationship, I don't see myself pursuing another one. So I feel...not queer enough to warrant being at a queer safe space, since I already benefit from being straight-passing.

    • @eureka5635
      @eureka5635 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      ​​​​@@yoyohayli* Passes "Queer Enough" Card * Here you go, just do it.

  • @jesslikescoffee24
    @jesslikescoffee24 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +248

    I wonder how neurodivergence plays a role in queerness and substance use disorders, given how much overlap there is between them all

    • @catdownthestreet
      @catdownthestreet 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      This would be an interesting thing to study honestly

    • @johnracine4589
      @johnracine4589 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Add to that the incredible overlap with things like hyper mobile disorders. It’s a triad with almost zero research.

    • @jenniferbelveal4331
      @jenniferbelveal4331 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      There is some sociological study behind the connections- some neurodivergencies are linked with impulsive behavior and adrenaline seeking behavior which leads to drug use, for example- largely, those marginalized will be limited to self-medication (as they will be ignored or barred access to healthcare and the means to procure it) and accepted by other marginalized people, AND are more likely to be open-minded to other marginalized modalities as a result. The neurotypical (neuro-enabled, as a youth in my kid's friend circle once said) that are not exposed to an accepting view of not-100%-cis/het modalities are possibly missing out on part of themselves that compulsory cis/het/allo society doesn't want to see... So, a lot of mixed numbers; it's actually hard to quantify the REAL numbers of LGBT people- but also 'neurotypical' people, due to socialization that can lead to a lot of hidden and/or undiscovered 'atypical' being.
      Basically, if you are in a safe place to NOT hide one modality, you may also feel free to share another, and more likely to be accepted in such spaces, but there is a hint of nero-spicy influence towards some spicy behaviors 🤷

    • @crdwn3
      @crdwn3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@catdownthestreetI believe there’s been quite a few studies done into the correlation between neurodivergence and queerness - the only thing is, one big thing that gets taught in psychology is that correlation isn’t equal to causation; basically meaning “it’s a total 50/50 as to whether or not it actually means anything or is just a massive coincidence”
      There’s so much to unpack it’s so exciting

    • @vyvii3293
      @vyvii3293 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      As a queer neurodivergent person, I don't drink, do drugs or smoke. I'm very risk averse. Bars aren't great places for asexuals either because so many people are there for hook ups... it's not my deal.

  • @perelandrawaddle
    @perelandrawaddle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +340

    I'm so glad people are talking about how difficult it can be to navigate queer spaces as a sober person. Here in Vancouver, use of cocaine and fentynal are so prevalent many queer youths end up addicted and die very young. Especially Trans and Indigenous kids. Its very unfortunate and I think its a hard thing to find balance with. We have legalized weed long ago and possession of small amounts of illegal drugs are legal. There are illegal mushroom dispenseries everywhere that go unpatrolled and although I think criminalizing drugs is not the answer it worries me that there are almost no queer spaces in our cities that are drug free. I think we owe it to the next generation to create safe spaces that normalize sobriety.

    • @marley7659
      @marley7659 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Yeah. My university students sold illegal mushrooms all the time and made a killing. He wasn’t secretive at all about it in broad daylight. He would even bring it to university to show off. I didn’t rat on him tho since they were a harmless kind of illegal mushroom.

    • @a.johnson1860
      @a.johnson1860 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Here, here!

    • @slammetalgirl
      @slammetalgirl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      sobriety has been normalized forever😭 just because someone wants to try shrooms doesn’t mean you can’t be sober

    • @Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry
      @Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The reason why is that organized crime continues to run clubs because a) who else can afford the rent in major cities? b) It's a great way to sell addictive drugs AND booze to a young and growing market, and c) it is and always has been a source of recruitment for prostitution. From organized crime's point of view, what's not to like about owning clubs, whether queer or not?

    • @witchyenvi
      @witchyenvi หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@slammetalgirlIF you spend time with a lot of people doing drugs, your willpower can hardly matter, you will be sucked in.

  • @LyingTube
    @LyingTube 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +281

    I'm a teetotal autistic introvert so the heavy focus on noisy drinking environments for social interaction has been Rough.

    • @TheWanderingLPer
      @TheWanderingLPer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Preach

    • @meganlampa3293
      @meganlampa3293 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Here,here. My husband and his work friends often go to noisy places where there's drinking, smoking and staying up late. So I'm yet to get to know a lot of his friends

    • @meganlampa3293
      @meganlampa3293 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Also you put your head on your hands or on the table they kick you out. Come on I have Cerebral Palsy and I'm tired

    • @StefanKoran
      @StefanKoran 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I feel you.. i tried.. it was.. not good. I like humans but not people.

    • @greenaum
      @greenaum 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Hm yeah maybe there's room for a non-alcoholic meeting place. Thing is, gay clubs are often, unless they're for real music fanatics, there for hookups. And being drunk makes seduction, and being seduced, *SO* much easier! Hetero clubs aren't too much different, you can still have fun, but there's little point in conversation when you have to shout into someone's ear. Turn the sound down, dammit! Now, I know I'm old.
      I dunno where introverts meet friends and partners. I suppose Internet, but, that's just so second-class to real life, it's sortof awful! My autistic mate would probably be the county drinking champion if they had one. He enjoys socialising. He's fairly obviously "different" to talk to, but he's a good guy and can have fun, so people get on with him regardless.
      Teetotal, well they sell soft drinks. I wouldn't recommend socialising with a bunch of increasingly-drunk drunks, sober. About 8 or 9 you're gonna want to leave.
      What sort of tactics and tips do you have, Tubey?

  • @karlhenke91
    @karlhenke91 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +370

    I'm an alcoholic! Also gay, cisgendered male. I've been sober since 2016, and...navigating the new world was tough. I'm very interested in this video.

    • @jennifers5560
      @jennifers5560 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      Congratulations on your sobriety!

    • @karlhenke91
      @karlhenke91 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      @@jennifers5560 Thank you!

    • @rhyssaunders9863
      @rhyssaunders9863 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Congrats!

    • @DieAlteistwiederda
      @DieAlteistwiederda 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Congratulations on your sobriety. For me it's that my dad was an alcoholic so I rarely drink and don't feel comfortable around drunk people. Different issue same outcome I guess. We really need more casual queer spaces.

    • @MOTHHMAN
      @MOTHHMAN 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      ​@@DieAlteistwiederdaagreed❤

  • @caitiem9083
    @caitiem9083 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    YES! As an autistic queer who doesn’t drink, bars/clubs are my worst nightmare and it’s alway lead me to feeling really distanced from the community. There’s little to no way to engage with the community that isn’t a sensory nightmare

    • @witchyenvi
      @witchyenvi หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah.. for me, my area is very conservative so I can't even paint my nails anyway, but I do not have any sense of wider community due to my autism.
      It's so hard to get along with people in general, no matter how gay, I fear 😭

  • @judithlashbrook4684
    @judithlashbrook4684 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +93

    My bar is my bedroom, there are cushions, pillows, covers, heat pads, weighted blankets, low lights, loop ear buds, white wine and snacks, and... just me! 😊

    • @Dante-ly1zg
      @Dante-ly1zg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      This should be top comment! I agree totally

    • @catdownthestreet
      @catdownthestreet 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Ah, the perfect evening. Not a fan of alcohol myself but a good drink of my own making is always nice :)

  • @cynhanrahan4012
    @cynhanrahan4012 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +124

    That blue sparkly gown is divine. Here in Florida US, our last local lesbian bar in my area was extremely successful, but about 20 years ago the owner of the building did not renew their lease. RIP Rainbow Room. It was a fun place with very little trouble, even though the police parked a large cis butch white male officer on the parking lot every night. Trying to have a private conversation on the parking lot would get you fussed at, if you were arguing, someone was going to jail. That said it was a rare day that there was a customer incited incident. There was a queer but mostly male gay bar that joined together with the gay antique store owner and the gay bookstore owner banded together and got the other shopkeepers on our failing small, very cute downtown area to be improved, cleaned up and become a tourist destination. Nice restaurants opened, the cobbles were smoothed, they city put a little museum, it was very nice. And that went on for 20 years or so. Then there became a vaguely hostile "family" atmosphere. The gay bar had a sign on the door that said this is a gay safe space, and if you have a problem with that, don't enter. That worked for a while. A new building owner tried to change it over to a straight bar, but us queers kept on patronizing the bar and dancing with each other, so more than half the people are queer. Straight cis white men were the new problem, harassing queers regardless of gender including groping us who identify as women. The bouncer helps if we tell them, especially if a woman has had too much to drink and is being molested openly. Queer safe spaces regardless of alcohol availability are now very scarce.

  • @shouldbewritig
    @shouldbewritig 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +149

    I'm so glad she's talking about this! I'm bi and violently allergic to alcohol so I never know where to go to participate in queer activity in an already limited area. Cafes for queer people WHEN?

    • @rksnj6797
      @rksnj6797 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      I'm surprised they aren't a thing. Seems like an idea waiting to be implemented.

    • @MissSnuffles117
      @MissSnuffles117 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      As someone who is just generally not into the bar scene, I would love a queer cafe! Cafes are way more my speed. 😅

    • @jswbr
      @jswbr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sooo about Canada….. 😊

    • @user-wh5fj6pj6m
      @user-wh5fj6pj6m 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@jswbrthere are some in Canada?!

    • @56hillcrest
      @56hillcrest 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There's one in Edinburgh!

  • @nottheoneforyou
    @nottheoneforyou 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    Anyone else notice Jessica has made sure to have some kind of shade of red mixed into her wardrobe? Ever since I watched the trip to Malaysia and it being the year of the dragon, I remember her being told red will held deflect bad luck. Just thought it was interesting for anyone who hadn't noticed at all. 😊

    • @jennifers5560
      @jennifers5560 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      She has to keep her luck up!

    • @nottheoneforyou
      @nottheoneforyou 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@jennifers5560 yes! I just thought it was a fun thing to point out. 😃

    • @jennifers5560
      @jennifers5560 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@nottheoneforyou it was!

    • @lyonclaws5737
      @lyonclaws5737 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      maybe coca cola will sponsor her for being on brand

    • @yoyohayli
      @yoyohayli 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It's also clearly a very good color on her! Of course, I don't think I have seen any colors I have disliked on her, so 😅

  • @Eruza9306
    @Eruza9306 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +151

    It's hard as a queer Muslim to find safe and sober places

    • @catdownthestreet
      @catdownthestreet 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      I feel for you. Being queer as a teen was rough for me, but I can't imagine being Muslim as well. I hope you find your safe space someday, there are people like you out there who are looking for someone like them, too.

    • @Eruza9306
      @Eruza9306 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@catdownthestreet thank you so much

    • @ari_zona0
      @ari_zona0 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I was looking for this comment, really felt this while watching the video

    • @catdownthestreet
      @catdownthestreet 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@Eruza9306 Of course.

    • @sweenstaruploads-go1ml
      @sweenstaruploads-go1ml 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Everytime I think of how much I wish there were more sober queer spaces, I always remember Muslim queer people and feel less alone lol

  • @randomhuman_05
    @randomhuman_05 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +164

    I just got the title in the notification and my first thought was:
    “Wow, Jessica, that’s a little forward” 😭

    • @paradoxica424
      @paradoxica424 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      "buy me a drink fi-"

    • @ohpurpled
      @ohpurpled 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      My thought was ‘when? I, er, don't drink, but …when?’

    • @thewhiterabbitchaser
      @thewhiterabbitchaser 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it's a song

  • @cynhanrahan4012
    @cynhanrahan4012 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    Oh, how could I leave out Hamburger Mary's? A restaurant with an all trans/drag staff. During lunch and early supper, people are welcome to bring their children. We have had large family parties at Hamburger Mary's because our chosen family is very mixed, and our children have been raised in a queer inclusive fashion. However, Hamburger Mary's has always had a strict children must be out of the restaurant by 8 pm so they can begin preparation for their drag shows. Last time I was there, out teenagers were allowed to stay, but the littles needed to go home anyway for bedtime. The drag show is wonderful, funny, and very entertaining with top drag queens performing much like any circuit based performer. The comedy is cleanish and mostly full of innuendo, and the singing is real voices. If staying for the shows, we are expected to order a meal as well as alcohol (their burgers really are fantastic), and the wait staff and bartenders are very aware of over serving. There is expected table turnover between shows, unless you order more food. Which is easy because yummy menu and ordering a coke or a tea or a fizzy water is normal. I consider it a family environment. But they are taking a lot of flack from the maga crowd in the FL state government. I'm a 65 year old cis queer woman, and have seen the progression over the years with dismay. I'm looking at France as an alternative to the US for my retirement. Just need to buff up my conversational French.

    • @obsidianjane4413
      @obsidianjane4413 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Because this subject is gay bars and the connection to alcoholism. And so @3:25 .

  • @MusingsFromTheDen
    @MusingsFromTheDen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    'Department of Homosexuals' sounds like a very Queer Superhero movie and I'm here for it! 😂

    • @jennifers5560
      @jennifers5560 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Superqueero!

    • @AeonZhang
      @AeonZhang 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ✨🤣✨

    • @thomasjames6680
      @thomasjames6680 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The Ace Of Spades, fires hot garlic bread from their eyes.

    • @MusingsFromTheDen
      @MusingsFromTheDen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@jennifers5560 😂

    • @electronics-girl
      @electronics-girl หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It sounds like something from the future, where we get our own Cabinet-level department.

  • @paulkemp8520
    @paulkemp8520 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Omg it's so true about feeling uncomfortable as a... less affluent queer in queer spaces. It sucks, to the point I avoid queer bars for queer freindly bars. They tend to suit my working class sensibilities. Which sucks, we need more gay dives for working trash like me!

  • @TheSunnyOne
    @TheSunnyOne 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Queer, autistic, disabled, unemployed, trans woman in the UK here.
    If I had a safe, non alcohol focused, place to hang out close to me, I may actually leave my house more than once every few months.
    I'd love a queer cafe or something near me.

    • @nodoboho
      @nodoboho 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Me, too...I could drag myself out if there was a lesbian or queer cafe or coffeehouse nearby! But I'm 10 miles from queer-friendly, increasingly unaffordable major metropolitan Seattle in the U.S. The non-alcoholic drinks would likely be chi-chi and pricey, and the clientele 30+ yrs younger than me, and aggressively "woke" (of the type that forgets that "diversity" includes low income, disabled, neurodivergent, non-Christian, over 35, female, and any other boxes I might check).

  • @fraserking4747
    @fraserking4747 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

    Didn’t know Jessica had joined Electric Six. Bold step, can’t wait to see how it plays out!

    • @tiffanyblair3911
      @tiffanyblair3911 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      It's going to be stuck in my head for ages, but I'm not mad 😂

    • @jennifers5560
      @jennifers5560 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Of course I just had to search this and just had to watch the video. It is bold!

    • @coolcat020
      @coolcat020 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      im so glad someone else thought this too lol. i saw the title in my notifications and promptly broke into song :P

  • @Frank-The-44th
    @Frank-The-44th 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Right now THIS is the education that I want, it’s so nice to see someone explaining and spreading the history of the queer community xx

    • @Frank-The-44th
      @Frank-The-44th 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Also we NEED to get a wardrobe tour, I love all of your outfits!!!

  • @jennifers5560
    @jennifers5560 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +173

    Love Jessica’s style of highlighting the issues. Having all of those statistics in one video was eye opening.

  • @carag2567
    @carag2567 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    "...circum certain stamces..." is my absolute favorite part of this video because Jessica did not edit it out, reshoot it, or delete it altogether. I'm hoping that she left it as is, knowing that we, her loving followers, would understand exactly what she meant. So many other content creators would have edited that out. But Jessica pressing on afterwards with her megawatt smile and sunny disposition makes her so authentic to me. I absolutely love this channel ❤️

  • @magicivy
    @magicivy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    I hope all my queer guys, gals, and nonbinary pals are having a good day 😊💕🌈

    • @jennifers5560
      @jennifers5560 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    • @catdownthestreet
      @catdownthestreet 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thank you! I hope you are, too :)

    • @roarmaus
      @roarmaus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Is yer greeting a Queer Kiwi-ish reference? Yay!

  • @michaelnewton5873
    @michaelnewton5873 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    Jessica, Phillippa Gregory has a excellent book out called Normal Women. She covers Gay history in different times of English history as well as other Women's issue from 1300 to 200.

    • @KatjeKat86
      @KatjeKat86 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      My mom is reading that book she recommended it to me about a week ago. She got it because she loves history and especially women's history so it's kind of nice that she's learning a little bit about what people like me had to deal with as well as just history of interesting women.

    • @nodoboho
      @nodoboho 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sounds great. To make sure Jessica reads your recommendation, prolly best to DM her...directly.

  • @Sylvieawan
    @Sylvieawan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Great video! In Spain, gay bars are often called "bares de ambiente" ("ambiance bars"). The first of them was Tony's bar in Torremolinos (Málaga)... in 1962! (At that time, Spain was still under Franco's regime). It is our "Stonewall", as in 1971 was close after a raid. After Franco's death, gay bars were more popular and almost every town had its gay bar or even gay neighbourhood (as Chueca in Madrid). Nowadays, the majority of bars are mixed. I'm pretty sure in Madrid are gay cafes, not in my city as far as I know, but there are some associations that organise activities for young LGTBQ+ people and being openly gay (like kiss your couple) is not a problem in most places.

  • @onceichokedon_a_grain_of_rice
    @onceichokedon_a_grain_of_rice 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    I always love her outfit oml

    • @jennifers5560
      @jennifers5560 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Detective Jessica was my favorite!

  • @MechakittenX
    @MechakittenX 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Guess I need to take out that small business loan and be the change I wanna see in the world. Been thinking about sober queer spaces for years. I see there's a demand now.

    • @nodoboho
      @nodoboho 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cat cafe / coffeehouse / salon / art gallery / jazz club / bookstore? (wlw-centered, hopefully)

    • @MechakittenX
      @MechakittenX 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@nodoboho as a non binary person, I'm uncomfortable in spaces exclusively for men or women, so my place will be open arms to all, with an emphasis on genderqueerness.

  • @julie_uk_
    @julie_uk_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Jessica swooping in to save my Wednesday with this video! Add AuDHD to that mix & it's not good. I stopped alcohol last April, so one year in 😊 Also thanks for gentle placing the Electric 6 song in my head, a joy ❤🎉

  • @nyves104
    @nyves104 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    this was a good reminder to look for a queer coffee shop in my area (since I can't drink alcohol either) and I found one! I guess I've got new plans for the weekend

  • @clairelist1060
    @clairelist1060 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    The high rates of alcohol abuse plus the fact that gay bars tend to overserve really is something...

  • @Katastrophising
    @Katastrophising 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    The detective look is GORGEOUS. I'm obsesses. Not at all the point of this video, but I had to say it

  • @cheyturnervisuals
    @cheyturnervisuals 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I’m so so SO glad you made this! Finally! I’ve been noticing an effort to create more NA spaces for queers recently. It’s really cool to see someone go into this history and connection.

  • @MossyBear
    @MossyBear 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm in love with your shift into the "wear several cute outfits and change sets occasionally" type of video. more of your cute outfits while I learn things, please!

  • @kai_fatallysapphic
    @kai_fatallysapphic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I'm 20 so I'll be able to go to gay bars soon, but I'm planning on staying sober, it would be wonderful to have more queer places where drinking isn't expected because I've never been in a room with several other openly queer people

  • @Joey-kd8lj
    @Joey-kd8lj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Sometimes, as a baby queer (not completely figured out yet), queer-specific places can be intimidating. For example, when I was still in London, I went to Gay's the Word and I just felt like I looked like a boring cis straight girl.
    I think sober spaces would be really cool. For me, I enjoy a good dance sesh (I did different types of dance for many years growing up) and sometimes in restaurants I have to repress the urge to just full-on contemperary dance to songs that I know, but at the same time, I also like to talk to people and that's hard when you've got music blasting. Even more so when you're prone to sensory overload. I also can drink, but just never particularly seek it out.

  • @CommissionerManu
    @CommissionerManu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I read the title…
    Sick surf rock guitar starts playing louder and louder in my head…
    Lincoln appears before me…

    • @YanBaoQin
      @YanBaoQin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same

  • @MichaelPhillipsatGreyOwlStudio
    @MichaelPhillipsatGreyOwlStudio 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I struggle to find community spaces because I have Meniere's disease and various vestibular problems, as well as chronic fatigue. In loud environments I cannot distinguish voices from background noise, so even in loud restaurants, communication is pretty much hopeless. Recently, I went to see my first film in the theatre in 9 years, Dune Part 2, and the sound was so loud it was painful, and I couldn't make out anything in the louder action sequences, and then I had dizziness and bedspins for three nights thereafter.

    • @blowitoutyourcunt7675
      @blowitoutyourcunt7675 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cotton balls! It muffles everything to an acceptable level cuz theaters are just too darn loud! YMMV

  • @missnaomi613
    @missnaomi613 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Somebody, please steal this idea: Gay cat cafe! It's queer, it gets kitties adopted! Everybody wins! (I hear that there are sometimes WAITING LISTS to go to cat cafes, they're so popular!)
    *I know, it isn't for people with cat allergies. No idea is perfect.

    • @nodoboho
      @nodoboho 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Great minds think alike"! I suggested this just several minutes ago in a reply further up the chain. I threw in coffeehouse, art gallery, salon, and bookstore...because...why not...and also I'm all about "multi-functional" and I, personally, would love any or all of those as well.

  • @lynnbrooklyn1332
    @lynnbrooklyn1332 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Thank you for making informative content that is almost soothing because of your voice. It always brightens my day to see your videos.

  • @conlon4332
    @conlon4332 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    20:14 As someone who also doesn't drink, I've been considering buying wine to make my own vinegar. My family have been very discouraging, saying it's a waste of money... however I have read online that the nicer the wine the nicer the vinegar, and I do like nice vinegar.

    • @madhatterline
      @madhatterline 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I mean anything creative can usually be considered a waste of money for some reason or another. It's your money, maybe just give it & go & see how it comes out. 😊

    • @conlon4332
      @conlon4332 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@madhatterline Thank you. Maybe I will.

  • @thehonoredone2361
    @thehonoredone2361 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Just found this channel. And I have to admit it's very informative and entertaining.

    • @annajackson9001
      @annajackson9001 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Welcome, have fun watching past videos😊

    • @rksnj6797
      @rksnj6797 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I love how she can mix humor into her videos to make them fun to watch. She does include a lot of information on many subjects.

  • @swood8464
    @swood8464 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I am sober now. I am a nonbinary former binge drinker. I used to hang out at gay bars a lot.
    I do feel like there is severe lack of queer sober spaces.

  • @bethanykennedy812
    @bethanykennedy812 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    There used to be coffee houses around that basically served the same purpose as a bar, but with coffee. The one that was local here closed. I haven't seen many around lately.

  • @sams1982
    @sams1982 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I want a film noir with Detective Kellgren-Fozard, she is mesmerizing

  • @ArtichokeHunter
    @ArtichokeHunter 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    As You Are in DC is my favorite. The first floor is basically a cafe with board games and the second floor has a dance floor, full bar, stage etc. (My favorite queer spaces in other spaces I've lived have unfortunately mostly closed.)

  • @TisiphoneSeraph
    @TisiphoneSeraph 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Really glad you talked about access. I'm disabled and sober. I was lucky that there was an LGBT center in the town I was in but the programing was a patchy. I too crave gay cafes.

  • @Jiddy12345
    @Jiddy12345 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Solid Electric Six reference

  • @drskelebone
    @drskelebone 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Hey hey! Three cheers for our bisexual friends! Five cheers for our unsure friends!

  • @licensed_loser
    @licensed_loser 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    hello my queer friends :))❤

    • @jennifers5560
      @jennifers5560 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Hello!

    • @jesslikescoffee24
      @jesslikescoffee24 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜

    • @licensed_loser
      @licensed_loser 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@jennifers5560🫶🏻✨️

    • @licensed_loser
      @licensed_loser 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@jesslikescoffee24🏳️‍🌈

    • @jerrihadding2534
      @jerrihadding2534 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Greetings from Sweden 🫶💜🌈🏳️‍🌈🇸🇪

  • @lyonclaws5737
    @lyonclaws5737 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    jessica you have a very misophonia-friendly voice. i enjoy listening to you read off statistics!! i love learning!!

  • @Neojhun
    @Neojhun 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thanks Jess, you have put that ear worm of song back into my head.

  • @ninjakitteh9095
    @ninjakitteh9095 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Same about forgetting that 1900s was a century ago 🤣🤣🤣

  • @matelotage723
    @matelotage723 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a small town country gay who only moved to the big city of Los Angeles a couple years ago I was astonished by the openness and sheer quantity of gay bars here, I'm still discovering all sorts of cool new venues and locations but I definitely have my favorites

  • @edwardlupella6758
    @edwardlupella6758 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for mentioning the Black Nite Brawl! I did not guess someone from over the pond would find that, but it's fairly well known in our little city. Sadly the bar no longer exists and there's a highway there now.

  • @jonnysbigworld
    @jonnysbigworld 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This is such a fun video!!! Love it!!

  • @Werevampiwolf
    @Werevampiwolf 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Jessica: [explains her medical issues and why she can't really go to bars]
    Other Jessica: "That seems... very specific.
    Me: [also can't drink due to medication, it's also blind in one eye, brain is freaked out by flashing lights, and isn't deaf but does have sensory processing disorder and has trouble with loud noises] "Not as specific as you think, Other Jessica. I feel seen"

  • @cynical8330
    @cynical8330 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "A queer bar can be a safe space but, it is also a bar" well put

  • @carolbuzelim
    @carolbuzelim 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    i dont drink alcoholic beverage, neither does jessica but lets go
    i have to say you look stunning with that blue gown and golden tiara, look like a goddess

  • @emmypadge
    @emmypadge 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the cutaways in this video are so wonderful! Also the audio in the cutaways is great as well! Love your work always

  • @PhoebeFayRuthLouise
    @PhoebeFayRuthLouise 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Thank you for another tremendously informative video, Jessica!

  • @vapniitinerant2829
    @vapniitinerant2829 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Such a wonderful video! Jessica, you’ve done it again!

  • @daniellecook3086
    @daniellecook3086 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im finally catching up on your videos (just watched 3 in a row as I process invoices) and your videos are SO GOOD! You are so funny and clever and I appreciate your creativity and energy that you put into these ❤

  • @parkermae
    @parkermae 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I don't have words for how much I love the sparkly blue dress! Also, is that a dog in your lap?

    • @jennifers5560
      @jennifers5560 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That’s Tilly

    • @nodoboho
      @nodoboho 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wha? There was an animal? I must have been distracted.... 😳😉

  • @violentinsides
    @violentinsides 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I found this channel today and I am living for Jessica!

  • @jamielashell
    @jamielashell 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Excellent video! I laughed & I learned ❤😊 Keep up the great work Jessica! Love your channel!

  • @a.johnson1860
    @a.johnson1860 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love it when you do history pieces!!! This is outstanding!

  • @sierranevada4601
    @sierranevada4601 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I only found your channel like a day or two ago, but I am very happy to discover an actual source list. Too rare on youtube lol

  • @LordEveryman
    @LordEveryman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow, Jessica, what a great script! I am in awe, keep up the good work!

  • @Picklescape
    @Picklescape 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Belatedly getting to this video and love the work that's gone into this 👏🏼

  • @crestfallenraven
    @crestfallenraven 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this! Very educational, and beautiful delivery

  • @bellablue5285
    @bellablue5285 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I'm not particularly fond of being around people drinking, admittedly pre-2020 work travel made it a necessity, though I rather preferred the couple of pubs I was in while in the UK over the bars here in the US, though it's definitely a very different vibe in both (and I'll say I've only been to the straight/general version of both, not any specifically gay or queer spaces).
    Off topic, but I love the outfit with the hat and duster - I feel like I should recognize it and I'm not, but it's really cute!

  • @jeffafa3096
    @jeffafa3096 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    *Electric Six intensifies*

  • @sallyjordan4869
    @sallyjordan4869 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another great history-inflected video, Jessica! And may I say how splendid you looked in all the outfits, particularly the sparkly blue one? 🎀💖🎀

  • @lmcb8447
    @lmcb8447 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Gay bar, gay bar !! 🎶 🎵

  • @Dante-ly1zg
    @Dante-ly1zg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I'm glad this video was a history video.

  • @kathymcbride2425
    @kathymcbride2425 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    so well put together tar xx

  • @GothWithAGoldenRetriever
    @GothWithAGoldenRetriever 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for this! I have very bad reactions to flashing lights and my dietary restrictions make it so usually the only beverage option for me is water. As a young queer person it’s so isolating to hang out with your friends as they get ready for a night out and then… go home because you’re the disabled one who can’t come.

  • @jeskem
    @jeskem 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    While watching this video, my head was playing Electric Six's Gay Bar in the background. Oh how I love it when my brain runs differnt audio tapes at the same time.

  • @sersastark
    @sersastark 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    if something back then was deemed queer, it was weird and abnormal, so it makes sense that a queer bar wasnt always a gay bar.

  • @kaseydexter9736
    @kaseydexter9736 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm always happy to support our local girl bar, Gossip Grill. Though not perfect, it's fairly accessible, well-lit and features an impressive mocktail menu. I was very appreciative during the Pride where I was pregnant 😂😂

  • @FreyjaFoxx.x
    @FreyjaFoxx.x 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm happy you're talking about this. I've been dealing with trying to quit because it's not healthy. But like everything we do as a community is super centered around bars and it can be frustrating.
    Also is frustrating to see alcohol companies exploit us for huge profit

  • @seeleunit2000
    @seeleunit2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This has been very informative and I'm pleased to watched this video.

  • @Filecabinet0170
    @Filecabinet0170 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Totally off topic but that blue dress/gown and accompanying accessories ensemble is absolutely gorgeous! 💙 I think I missed a lot of what you were saying whilst admiring these sartorial aspects of the video. I’m new to the channel so if you’ve worn it before it’s new to me.

  • @colinneagle4495
    @colinneagle4495 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Can we all take a moment to appreciate Jessica's ravishing "Cindy Anna" Jones cosplay??

  • @HOHNancy
    @HOHNancy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love the blue gown and you look great in the detective outfit. 🙂 I learned a lot from you in this video! It’s excellent! ❤

  • @lilypudd
    @lilypudd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So great! Great info!

  • @maxk4324
    @maxk4324 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was such an amazing video to watch, I just found your channel and as a fellow queer person I am loving your content! You have a new subscriber!

  • @SmolFrogge
    @SmolFrogge 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I want to open an establishment called the Misfit Science Club. Being queer, science oriented, and autistic is a lonely branch.

  • @MsShaunaM
    @MsShaunaM 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was living in Oklahoma about 40 years ago. The state of Oklahoma was a dry state. At speakeasys, you were 'supposed' to bring your own bottle and they would make drinks for you from that bottle. Of course, that was not how it worked. However, every bottle of alcohol did have the name and address of its 'owner' taped on it - just in case of a raid by the cops. There was a local gin mill, sorry - speakeasy, where the deputy sheriff decided to make a name for himself. He raided a place and found the Mayor and Chief of Police enjoying an illegal beverage. The deputy was soon fired.
    I was sitting in a speakeasy having a Jameson's when I was told this story. The person who told me this tale was the county District Attorney.

  • @M00s3r
    @M00s3r 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am so here for Detective Jessica ❤

  • @emilyrln
    @emilyrln 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your aesthetic is always fire!!!

  • @QueenKarissa
    @QueenKarissa 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you as always for the stellar queer content Jessica! The statistics that you shared were very validating as a bisexual adult. I appreciate how much work you put into educating us in a lighthearted manner

  • @Charlie.1066
    @Charlie.1066 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That blue dress was so sparkly and beautiful!! Like a night sky ✨ you always have the best fashion sense

  • @jamhermann
    @jamhermann 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another huge accessibility issue is that a lot of queer bars (in some countries) are still not smoke-free, which is hard for people with COPD, asthma, migraines, or sensory sensitivities.

  • @callanrose
    @callanrose 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    love this conversation

  • @soccersweet11
    @soccersweet11 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    jessica in that blue gown and that white puppy across your lap, you are stunning!🌙✨

  • @stephthebard9037
    @stephthebard9037 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this history. As a Milwaukee native I never knew about Black Nite, but you can bet your buttons I've learned a lot about it now.

  • @AlondraAlvarez-he9lw
    @AlondraAlvarez-he9lw 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This video was very informative.

  • @StephS40
    @StephS40 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome video, Jessica! I have always wondered about the history of these LGBTQ+ bars and other safe spaces for the queer community, and I found your video to be very informative.
    I would love to see a video about members of the LGBTQ+ community who are, or have served in the military.