Dissecting the diaries of notorious bisexual Hortense Mancini

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  • @clairel34
    @clairel34 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +128

    I've suddenly realized what I truly want in life: Long after I'm dead, to be refered to as a notorious bisexual

    • @reesespieceshaha
      @reesespieceshaha 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      oh my god same! ultimate new life goal

    • @Pinkywinkykinky
      @Pinkywinkykinky 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      samee bestie the more of a devious bi, the better

  • @lindsayosterhoff2459
    @lindsayosterhoff2459 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +373

    Please consider talking about Hypatia of Alexandria. A lifelong virgin who refused the advances of men (likely asexual and aromantic) who was a well respected philosopher, astronomer, and mathematician LONG before women were typically allowed to be involved in such fields. She was quite the rebel and incredibly fascinating.

    • @clrobinson1776
      @clrobinson1776 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Yes, please. She’s one of my favorite women of history.

    • @missnaomi613
      @missnaomi613 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Sounds amazing!

    • @laviniasnow4494
      @laviniasnow4494 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Absolutely! Yes!

    • @the_aberration7398
      @the_aberration7398 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      She is an interesting historical figure, but her (likely, but unconfirmed) lifelong virginity and single-hood also could have been for spiritual reasons to do with certain Neoplatonist teachings.

    • @LadyVenus125
      @LadyVenus125 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Oh my god, that sounds so cool! I hope Jessica reads this comment.

  • @CorwinFound
    @CorwinFound 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    I so appreciate these videos of historic queer icons. I came out as trans 3 years ago at 45 years old and I feel like I've been playing frantic catch-up to understand the history of my people. Of course complicated by centuries of erasure, willful destruction, and phobic bias. Thank you for the work of digging up these stories, good, bad, and ugly! Sometimes painful, sometimes joyful, always complicated, they help me feel less alone.

  • @saraquill
    @saraquill 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +110

    Please do a video on Nobuko Yoshiya, the mother of Japanese lesbian fiction. Supported herself with her writing and lived happily in a Boston marriage.

    • @LeafyK
      @LeafyK 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I'd like to watch this episode! I've never heard of Lady Yoshiya before

    • @Margar02
      @Margar02 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      In case anyone was wondering, like I-
      Boston marriage: A non-traditional, domestic relationship between two middle or upper-class women

  • @DramaGeek1225
    @DramaGeek1225 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    You should look into Irish playwright Theresa Deevy. She became deaf as an adult and practiced lip reading by going to theatre. That indpired her to write plays and she was one of the Abbey Theatre's top playwrights until the late 1930s when they stopped producing her work. Some people think it's because the last play she submitted was too radical in the way it portrayed women.

  • @beegman27
    @beegman27 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    "notorious bisexual" is probably the most fantastic thing ive heard someone be called

  • @Werevampiwolf
    @Werevampiwolf 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +88

    I feel like she'd get along with La Maupin. Or they'd hate each other, no middle ground

    • @colinneagle4495
      @colinneagle4495 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Obviously they would hate each other, as they would have been competing for the same lovers!

    • @srose1088
      @srose1088 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Right, it's like you can ether see it as bark with no bite, or with. Like he's an obnoxious old man or quirky old fuddy-duddy. 🤭

  • @marianneshepherd6286
    @marianneshepherd6286 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    Oh my goodness! I literally just listened to Betwixt the Sheets podcast, and the episode talked about her briefly, and I literally thought, "I really hope Jessica does a video on her for queer history 101 series" 😊❤

  • @lilykatmoon4508
    @lilykatmoon4508 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    I love this series of yours. Hearing about women who took what power they had and leveraging it for their self expression and what freedom they could is inspiring to learn about- AND they were queer and/or disabled ❤. Fascinating woman. I definitely want to read her memoir!

  • @daniellerichardson5900
    @daniellerichardson5900 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The way your hearing aids catch the light is quite lovely. Goes with the pearl headband very well, with a classic subtle sparkle.
    Thanks for giving us another great video on a historical queer icon!

  • @StonerWeeb
    @StonerWeeb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I'd heard her name before but had no idea how much of a bicon she was. What a legend!
    Also, as beautiful as the art is, I'm surprised big daddy youtube hasn't age restricted this vid 😹

  • @jennifers5560
    @jennifers5560 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    Wow, what a life she led! Super interesting video.
    20:05 “Really good with people” seems like an understated way to describe her.

  • @gothicwitch101
    @gothicwitch101 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Notorious Bisexual is going to be the name of my new band.

  • @Smellystrawberry
    @Smellystrawberry 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I would love for you to consider Sarah Bernhardt. French superstar of late 18th early 19th century. She played male roles. Had both male and female lovers. At one point had to amputate her leg, but her career still continued. Was just a very dramatic lady. Considered one of the first superstars. I'm very impressed that she was so popular in America since she never preformed in any other language then French. She is the earliest born person on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

  • @cbw900
    @cbw900 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I love Hortense Mancini. It's so delightful that you've made a video about her!

  • @justagirlwearingglasses
    @justagirlwearingglasses 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    grew up in the french court, oui oui bonjour, life was a chore so she set sail-

    • @sunnys2434
      @sunnys2434 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Lol I love this reference 😂

  • @alyburr6645
    @alyburr6645 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    don't have time to watch rn, but the notification for this immediately got The King of Bling stuck in my head xD can't wait to find out more about her

    • @RosalindPeters
      @RosalindPeters 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I love the people and the people love me

    • @i_love_st4rz
      @i_love_st4rz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RosalindPeters So much they restored the English monarchy

  • @PhoebeFayRuthLouise
    @PhoebeFayRuthLouise 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I so love learning about historical figures from you! Where were you when I was in history class?!

  • @LS-el7xc
    @LS-el7xc 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    What an incredible life this woman lived!

  • @CREN13Queen
    @CREN13Queen 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I want a TV series of Hortense's life so badly

  • @threeleggedcat
    @threeleggedcat 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Priscilla Pointon was a blind female writer and poet in the 18th century, and she was pretty cool, I imagine she would make an interesting topic for a video

  • @michaelnewton5873
    @michaelnewton5873 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Your intro sounded like you were jealous she had a King and a Princess as lovers. LOL Love the content more learning as usual.

  • @sallyjordan4869
    @sallyjordan4869 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I especially adore your historical videos, lovely Jessica! 🎀💖🎀

  • @MeltyKun
    @MeltyKun 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Jessica's lexicon and elocution is an orchestra to my ears.

  • @danielahirgts
    @danielahirgts 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    ‪Happy Birthday! The video was such a delight to watch. Learning about historical figures is always enjoyable, but your personal touch elevates it. Thank you for continuing to create and share such lovely content.

  • @Authentistic-ism
    @Authentistic-ism 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Forced into a convent??? I hear this more and more in history content. It would be a fascinating topic in and of itself for a video! Any takers?

    • @kateshiningdeer3334
      @kateshiningdeer3334 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I read a book of women's true stories called "Lesbian Nuns" - considering the practices of the day, that was a MUCH better choice than marriage and kids!
      There were lots of gay male priests for the same reason.

    • @Authentistic-ism
      @Authentistic-ism 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@kateshiningdeer3334 I went to Catholic school where some of the staff were sisters of mercy. Because I was a baby queer I was having gaydar about some of them. Probably right I remember as girls we would ask the sisters why they chose to be nuns and they wouldn't really give us satisfying answers

  • @CplAnguadaEarth
    @CplAnguadaEarth 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    My only previous experience with her is from Horrible Histories song about Charles II The King of Bling.

    • @hannahbradshaw2186
      @hannahbradshaw2186 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes! HORTENSE MANCINI 😂

    • @oliverharris60
      @oliverharris60 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was looking for this comment!!! I’ve found my people 😂

  • @laviniasnow4494
    @laviniasnow4494 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank for the interesting story!
    I feel like this series is my favourite on this channel. ☺️

  • @MissFreyja
    @MissFreyja 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Fabulous video Jessica, thank you for sharing :)

  • @martincotterill823
    @martincotterill823 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Great story, well told

  • @top-notanalysis4942
    @top-notanalysis4942 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Omg omg omg, I heard of Hortence from Abigail Philosophy Tube 😂🎉

    • @erraticonteuse
      @erraticonteuse 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      YES! I was like "isn't she the Charles II mistress who Abigail Thorn is related to?"

  • @jenniferlevine5406
    @jenniferlevine5406 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great fun! What a interesting bio. Always like to hear about those historical female upstarts!

  • @LeafyK
    @LeafyK 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great phonics hacks: the Barton Reading program!
    (re: 2:44)
    It's designed for dyslexic learners of all ages and useful for everyone who speaks English! I'd recommend adapting some of the cue words to your own dialect (i.e. /a/ apple, /i/ itchy, etc may not match UK English, I'm not sure as a Canadian who learned this US program). Barton is designed by speech pathologists! Cheers to you if you read this far, good day friend

  • @erraticonteuse
    @erraticonteuse 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Hey, teaching something is the best way to learn it, so if Rupert is teaching you phonics, you're helping him learn!

  • @julie_uk_
    @julie_uk_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Armand sounds like a cruel douche bag, whilst the gossip pamphlet sounds great! Im loving the journey you have told of our heroine 😊❤

  • @qgde3rty8uiojh90
    @qgde3rty8uiojh90 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've only just discovered your channel, Jessica. I'll have to watch a bit more of your content, but I already LOVE ❤ your (online?) personality! Keep uo the good work, girl.👍

  • @jennenny87
    @jennenny87 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jesus Christ, that ending! What a literal monster. So glad she was able to get away from that twisted, broken man, but it's baffling to me how many people were willing to stand by and let such bery public horrors continue for so long (both during their marriage and after her death). She was clearly not without her own baggage and misdeeds, but what an incredibly strong human being to survive and make a life for herself with that spector looming over her and no real legal protection/recourse. Thanks for sharing this incredible story.

  • @laurenready6662
    @laurenready6662 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this, thank you so much for creating. Adding my suggestion for Princess Ghyka to your possible future profiles!

  • @coreywright33
    @coreywright33 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yay! Thank you so much for sharing, Jessica!

  • @dragontimebitches3098
    @dragontimebitches3098 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hiya Jessica, I don't know if you remember me, but I just graduated from university and moved in with my partner, I couldn't have done it without you ❤❤

  • @mh4971
    @mh4971 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you for this series

  • @Voronochka262
    @Voronochka262 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dear Jessica, I would ask you consider talking about biocon Hans Scholl, who resisted against Hitler

  • @yosoysoya7944
    @yosoysoya7944 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    How about Billie Jean King? She isn't as historical as most of your other profiles but she does seem pretty cool!

  • @xerxies8947
    @xerxies8947 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    She may not have married the prince but she was quite the queen

  • @tinaturner_art_poetry
    @tinaturner_art_poetry 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very interesting story ,I love your videos 🤍🌺

  • @karieninas
    @karieninas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Such a great video! Love your take on queer history. ❤

  • @jennifers5560
    @jennifers5560 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    May this year be a tapestry of happiness, success, and wonderful surprises. Hope you have a fun and bright day. Happy Birthday!

  • @ivanhoeluisio7718
    @ivanhoeluisio7718 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The first time that I listen that aristocratic charactermfrom the Renaissance but your explanation about her was very well 😊. She did what so much women do in the 21st century. It's interesting how much people to dare to being brave 😼.

  • @RebeccaEstherG
    @RebeccaEstherG 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Watching this video feeling like sitting down for a good chat about the latest in French scandals, if your bestie is a queer TH-cam icon who somehow also exists in the 17th century and knows everything about every Bicon. J'aime!

  • @tommcdonald1873
    @tommcdonald1873 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This almost reminds me of the novel Moll Flanders.

  • @hannahbradshaw2186
    @hannahbradshaw2186 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    But her name's not as silly as...HORTENSE MANCINI! Hope someone gets the reference 😂

  • @missnaomi613
    @missnaomi613 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As always, thank you for making history interesting and fun!
    🙏❤️🏳️‍🌈

  • @KristanceGlam
    @KristanceGlam 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Liking this before it even starts, because yay for bisexual representation and stories!

  • @lisastenzel5713
    @lisastenzel5713 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:44 Not yet! Wait a few decades dear. You will go down in history for sure. You are awesome!❤

  • @amanekabbaj
    @amanekabbaj 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    She sounds fun definitely will read more about her

  • @josepinheiro6064
    @josepinheiro6064 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hortense is Hydrangea in French there are different versions of the name in Romantic lanuguages. The "H" is silent.

  • @ameena6485
    @ameena6485 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Never been this early to a video

  • @ArtingFromScratch
    @ArtingFromScratch 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @jessica PLEASE DO TOVE JANSSON

  • @EdithAustin-l4x
    @EdithAustin-l4x หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could you please cover Elizabeth I. She may have been aromantoc as a part of her first letter turning down a proposal said (paraphrased): IIt would be unfair of me to marry you, as I cannot love you in that way you would love me

  • @CREN13Queen
    @CREN13Queen 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Giving me Scandalous Lady W vibes with that court case

  • @firebladetenn6633
    @firebladetenn6633 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excuse me, I disagree! There is a glaring error on your video. You are ABSOLUTELY a historical figure that will be talked about for centuries to come.

  • @RosalindPeters
    @RosalindPeters 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Give me a wave if you recognised this name from Horrible Histories Charles II song

  • @HotDogTimeMachine385
    @HotDogTimeMachine385 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool history!

  • @mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311
    @mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This was camp as tits, I love it! More like this, please!
    Fascinating isnt it, how, irrespective of epoch or mores, if you were rich enough, it didn't really matter what the frig you did - or who!
    So long you weren't rubbing His (Imperial) Majesty up the wrong way, it seemed that no one ACTUALLY cared who you screwed, as long as it wasnt a family pet, livestock or a corpse.
    Speaking of, the pettiness of the man who dragged his late wife round to places he knew she used to hate when of this Earth was exquisite having undertones of the Cadaver Trial 800 years beforehand. So it's not ENTIRELY fair to suggest Hortense's life was strictly a proto-feminist - or feminism aligned - one. I think it far more accurate to say, she embodied Man's* desire for freedom, emancipation from repression and tyranny, to be the master of his/her/their destiny and free to do what the fuck they want within the boundaries of what is nothing the fuck to do with anyone else - nor hurts them physically or impinges on their own legal rights and freedoms respectively. Doing what they want to include living whereever and with whom they want, being engaged in the business or occupation of their choice - or not having one. And believing in whatever supernatural nonsense they like - or none - whether State sanctioned or otherwise. "Churches" on the other hand, should have no "rights" whatsoever. I very much feel Hortense would have agreed ..
    The more you see "religion" playing out in public life - the more you become sure it is nothing more than politics in drag. That would be a FASCINATING drama, to have Jessica throw her brilliant spotlight on the 1300 year panoramic sweep where that story really gets interesting ....😏
    *Man of course, being the convenient, non gender specific catch all term for all humanity; a mere handy label. A word.

  • @madimoe8331
    @madimoe8331 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just amazing. ❤

  • @cozydrug
    @cozydrug 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    ✨bi-con✨

  • @jennifers5560
    @jennifers5560 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My suggestion for a profile is Greta Garbo.

    • @tinaturner_art_poetry
      @tinaturner_art_poetry 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Defenetly love her

    • @LadyVenus125
      @LadyVenus125 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes! I always wondered why Jessica never talked about her.

  • @saraquill
    @saraquill 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Roo may not need phonics. I learned to read whole words first, using child friendly sign language dictionaries.

  • @catherinejustcatherine1778
    @catherinejustcatherine1778 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am not much of a scholar, and my memory is not very great. I am curious if Vigiee Le Brun, whose name I have probably misspelled, had such inclinations, or, was simply painting the subject matter & imagery accessible to her during that era. However, since she was not outwardly or notoriously a lesbian, she isn't a suggestion for this sort of video. But, perhaps, may be a subject for people who appeared to be but weren't? (But, not what you asked for.)
    Still, joyous Birthday wishes to you. I hope you are having a lovely afternoon, far "across the world" (from where I sit.)

  • @sarahwatts7152
    @sarahwatts7152 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good for her from managing to get away from that creep!

  • @elspethfougere9683
    @elspethfougere9683 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How fabulous 😍🤩

  • @zanite8650
    @zanite8650 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wish I could earn the title of 'Notorious Bisexual'

  • @susanpolastaples9688
    @susanpolastaples9688 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Alphra Behn

  • @comradeghostboi7989
    @comradeghostboi7989 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

  • @alexoglitter2700
    @alexoglitter2700 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Red white & royal blue, how to build a girl

  • @isabelasabbatini4431
    @isabelasabbatini4431 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could gay Jane Austen be next...??

  • @TheQueenOfStupidity
    @TheQueenOfStupidity 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I absolutely love this story, that ive of course never heard of in school (Though to be fair I am Danish) What an absolute Icon! And Ive shared it with an artist friend of mine who I think will absolutely make fanart of her

  • @Angua-tu3ot
    @Angua-tu3ot 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    💜

  • @nyves104
    @nyves104 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ❤🧡💛💚💙💜

  • @marianakamimura6561
    @marianakamimura6561 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Of course she was a Gemini 😂

  • @brennanperry8001
    @brennanperry8001 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You're just not a historical figure *yet*

  • @andreaorofalo
    @andreaorofalo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ortensia Mancini! She was the ultimate party girl of the 17th century! Even her parents were such incredible characters themselves! "Palazzo Mancini" is still exsisting in Rome and it's worth a visit.

  • @msswiper3019
    @msswiper3019 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This feels like the worst thing to post on a deaf person's page, but I really can't hear you with my volume all the way up and even with headphones on. As far as I know there's nothing going on with my ears or my phone; I think it's just how soft your voice is. Just wanted to offer this information in case it is useful feedback 😅🫥😶

    • @LadyVenus125
      @LadyVenus125 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You can turn on the subtitles.

  • @girliestmammy
    @girliestmammy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    💖