Wood Turning Sanding Trick You Need To Know
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- In this video I turn Staghorn Sumac. I will be showing a method of filling cracks and tear out using a sanding method. The bowl ends up with a wonderful deep gloss finish.
Working on a very challenging Segment piece so I thought I would show my favorite sanding trick.
How I use abrasive paste and polish:
• Five Minute Finish for...
Finish's used:
Minwax Water Based Sanding Sealer
Minwax Polycrylic
Acks Abrasive Paste and Polish/Restoring Paste
Tools Used:
Sorby Bowl Gouges
Negative rake scraper
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Beautiful bowl, Gary! Really nice grain. I know you had to put a little extra time in to get the cracks filled with the slurry but it was worth your effort. Just a stunning finish! We all could learn from your efforts on this one. Great job, my friend, keep'em coming!
Phil
Thanks so much Phil! Cracks are like some friends. Some you really like and some you wish you could change a little.
These I wanted to change just a little LOL.
I have my self working on something that I am not sure will be ugly or cool. But too late now so what you will see is what you get.
Take care my friend,
Gary
That's one beautiful bowl the grain is so attractive.
Thank you Judith, it is a very pretty wood.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Hi Gary...
Lovely looking bowl and a great tutorial on how to get your beautiful finishes...
Great video as always...
Take care...All the best.....Andy
Thanks so much Andy and thanks for watching,
Gary
That's a nice trick, with the slurry. Unfortunately I have a lot of wood with cracks and so I always have to try to get rid of them. This is a beautiful way. Normally I put wood glue into the crack and then sand so that the dust settles in the wood glue. Thanks for this video Gary. Take care.
Frank.
Thank you Frank and I am sure your method works as well. Especially on larger cracks.
Thanks for watching my friend,
Gary
Great idea using the sanding sealer as a wood filler.
Thank you very much. Happy you liked the idea.
Gary
Never had to do it but I see where it can be used. Good demonstration and explanations. Very nice bowl. Thank you Gary.
Thank you Sylive! I think we all hope to not have to do this but it is a handy trick for a very stubborn piece of wood.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Nice job, Gary! I've never used sanding sealer, but I've heard of doing wet-sanding with polyurethane on furniture refinishing jobs. It sure looks like it works well on new bowls. I admire the level of respect you give to guys, like Phil, when you credit them for tips you've learned from them. It shows a level of professionalism among woodturners that is all too rare in society in recent years. Thanks for the tip; I look forward to giving it a try.
Thank you very much Paul. I have watched Phil since I started doing this and have learned a lot from him.
I consider him a great wood turner and a great friend.
I enjoy figuring things out especially if it is treated like a secret. Then I really enjoy sharing that.
Thanks again my friend,
Gary
Beautiful bowl Mr. Gary
Thanks so much Donald and thanks for watching and commenting.
Take care,
Gary
Love the grain pattern Gary it is gorgeous.
Thank you Jane and thanks for watching,
Gary
That’s some nice looking wood!
Thank you Sean, yes it is a very pretty wood.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
beautiful bowl Gary.
Thank you Robert and thanks for watching,
Gary
I really like the idea of creating a slurry with that water based sanding sealer. Those end grain sections can really be a bear to deal with, especially on soft woods. Alchohol based sanding sealers dry far too quickly for your clever technique so I am going give that Minwax sealer a try. That is one huge piece of Staghorn sumac! The biggest I have come across is only about five inches in diameter. I really do like the exoctic green wood of the Staghorn and yes the sap is extremely sticky. Great finish!
Thank you very much. I have used oil based wipe on poly but the water based dries faster and sands better.
I had no idea what this wood was when it was offered to me and did not know this was a very big piece. It was the biggest but I did take some of the smaller 4 inch limbs as well. I is soft and turns a lot like Catalpa which I did get a lot of very big pieces of that.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Love the bowl and I will for sure try the information you showed thank you 👍👍👍
Thank you Dennis and best of luck.
Gary
I’ve seen a lot of staghorn sumac, but never anything bigger than and ancient lilac. I can’t imagine where you got a piece with a diameter big enough to make an 8 1/2 inch diameter bowl!
We were getting the some trees at a local tree farm and they had it laying there all cut up and the sign said free firewood. I looked at the end grain and said I will take all you will give me. That was the biggest piece of the bunch.
Only time I have actually seen it but it grows wild in the woods here.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
REALY good finish.
Thank you my friend!
Nice, Gary. Once again, you taught me something. I hope can remember that sealing trick the next time I have some really open grain wood.
Thank you!
Thank you Dave and thanks for watching.
Gary
I love this bowl...the grain is so gorgeous!
Thank you Carol, and it was my last big piece. Never know I might come across more.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Beautiful grain. Thanks.
Thank you Herbie and thanks for watching.
Gary
Beautiful bowl, Gary! Wet sanding is a great technique but I guess I’m just too lazy to clean up the mess after. Of course, maybe it’s just me who makes the mess that I do. You certainly didn’t seem to have any in your video. Another great video, my friend!
Take care,
…..Gord
Thanks so much Gord. This one worked out nicely. The mess became the patching material and stayed in place.
I have plenty of other messes to deal with which I need to try and straighten up today. Boxes of things I started sorting then left them on the floor where I have to walk around them. Dang will I ever learn!
Thanks for watching buddy,
Gary
Great sanding tip! I wouldn’t have thought of wet sanding with sanding sealer. I imagine you could do the same with shellac based if you put a drop or two of mineral wax in it to stop it drying so fast? A gorgeous piece of wood and beautiful finish. Thanks Gary.
Cheers, Rick
Thank you Rick, I think you could use the shellac sanding sealer as long as you could slow the drying down some.
Thanks for watching,
Gry
I agree with the the others, that's a stunning finish. The wood looks a lot like China berry and I wondered if maybe it's the same tree with a different regional name. ( I'm in south Georgia) The grain looks the same and I haven't seen a China berry yet that was solid in the middle.
I have been wet sanding with shellac this past week and it seems to work good , but it's -30 here , might not work as good after weather warms up . I'll have to see
Good work and Thanks for the tip. Tim
Thanks so much Tim!
Take care,
Gary
Great job, Gary. Thanks for sharing the "slurry" trick. Makes a lot of sense to me. I'll keep it in mind on future projects. Will no doubt use it on some ash logs I'm drying.
Thank you Tom. Just another option to use when nothing else works.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Hi from the UK! Fantastic looking bowl! Thanks for sharing. Liked and subscribed. Niw working through your videos. 😊
Thanks so much Rich I appreciate you watching and subscribing.
Gary
Amazing video
Is sanding sealer safe for an eating bowl?
My understanding that shellac based is. Best to go by the labels. With way I would not put liquid in a wood bowl or eat out of it with a fork.
Gary what level of shine is your polycrylic, semi gloss or gloss? I’ve seen Kent Weakly squirt some regular wood glue into cracks then finger press it in followed by hand sanding over the crack which also creates a kind of a slurry which also dries quickly. Similar but also seems to work.
I am using the gloss Polycrylic. If it is too shiny you can knock it back with extra fine steel wool or scotch brite.
I have used wood glue in a similar way but if I can I will use the finish to create the slurry as I feel it blends better.
On something large to fill sawdust and glue or sawdust and CA will get the job done easier.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Great work. What sander is that ?
Thank you very much.
It is from Harbor Freight. Variable speed and keyless chuck.
Works fine and was cheap.
It is corded.
@@ThePapa1947 thank you.
@ThePapa1947 I'm sorry but is that considered an orbital sander? I see a drill and chuck there.
@@coachingangels I am sorry but I guess I have no idea what you are asking.
If you saw a drill and chuck what are you wanting to know? I have a sanding pad mounted into the drill and I am sanding with it. This is what I thought you were asking.
Not all sanders are orbital. I use a palm sander (Dynabrade)at work for years. It was orbital and was one of the best you could get. But it would not work for getting into a bowl. Not sure there is anything made just for doing that.
Many of us use right angle drills for sanders.
@@ThePapa1947 that was my question, thanks again :)
Love this bowl.
It looks like a cyclops wearing a jumper and trousers, parting a corn field😂
Thanks Steve. Wow I need to have another look at this one LOL
It's another beautiful bowl Gary. I guess I've not had to develop a sanding trick because I don't have access to these gorgeous pieces of wood! The most fiddly I've had was wide grain ash and trying to sand through a narrow-ish neck. All I needed was patience and time to sand. Eventually it gets there. All the best. Ray
Thank you Ray and you nailed it. Patience and time are the key to success. I have been know to put a coat of sealer on it and notice an area that may have small scratches. So I just sand it all off and do it again. But I sure do my best to avoid that added operation.
Thanks for watching my friend,
Gary
You can shave Your face with this glass finish, Gary 👌😀 I knewed that in wet sanding is something good. Bowl looks like new porcelain.
Is here anybody who can get better finish? I think no. Well done Brother 💪
Take care.
Rav
Thank you Rav you are just way to kind. But you words mean so much to me my friend.
Take care my brother from afar!
Gary
Very Nice . I have filled cracks by , Getting a sanding dust going , adding CA then sand over it while the CA is wet. It works but you have to use a scraper to get the mess off the surface . I like your method better.. Thanks for the tip.. Where did you find Sumac that large . Thanks and subbed ya.
Thank you Steve. The sanding process works very well.
I got this wood while buying some small trees at a local nursery. I guess they delivered some trees and cut this down at the costumers.
I just happen to be there and ask about it. Told me to take what i wanted. Here in Oregon it grows wild and the smaller brush it called poison ivy by some.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Really nice job !! I notice you use a Laguna lathe. I am thinking of replacing/upgrading my old Delta lathe and have been thinking of a Laguna 18-36. Are you pleased with your lathe ? Thanks, Jim Marshall
Thank you James. Yes I have the Laguna and find it to be a very good lathe. And I do recommend it!
It did not have a spindle lock but I made one that is very easy to do with no drilling needed.
Check out this video: th-cam.com/video/AzExi1D8sak/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ThePapa1947
Gary
Great piece. I have some small branch pieces of sumac that i have made into little mushrooms. i was pretty nervous when i was turning that i wouldn't be able to get any sort of finish on it, but it sanded out better than i would have imagined.
Thank you Jordan. Sumac is pretty soft but I love the grain.
Takes a nice finish as well.
Gary
G’day Gary,
Never seen that wood in Oz, but it does look like mulberry.
Nice trick sanding, I wet sand with some Tung oil which works very well
Thank you Greg, yes I could see how Tung oil would work good as well.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Gary,
I noticed that you use a shelving cushion to go between your jam chuck and bowl. I have tried this method and it leaves indentations in my bowl finish. I don’t know what to do. I don’t think that I am putting to much pressure on the live center. Any help would be appreciated. I love this bowl and I have never seen sumac this large. The sumac I have seen or should I say been around is only 1/2 to 1 inch in diameter. Thanks Keep turning.
Hi Kevin,
I have also seen the markings from the shelf material. I try to let the bowl sit all night after the last coat of finish to avoid this. But if I do not have time what I did on this one and others is use a soft piece of paper towel against the bowl which seems to help. I will show that the next time.
What I was told is the small vine sumac is poison ivy but the sumac that is a tree is not poisonous.
I sort of stumbled over this wood not knowing what it was. We were at a tree farm a few years ago picking out a tree to replace the Sweet Gum we had taken out. They had the Sumac laying on the ground cut up and giving it away for firewood. I guess they had delivered one of their trees and took this out for their customer.
I was in the right place for getting it. So I brought our beautiful Oklahoma Redbud home plus the Sumac.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
How do you get hold of the people with the acts abrasive paste. I have tried sending them emails but they never reply. Could you also send me the sketch of how to cut the diamonds shapes for turning the inside out turnings. Thanks
Have you gone to their web page to get the email? Not sure what might be going on.
Not sure I have your email to send any information but I can do that.
Gary
I like your sanding with the slurry, but my guess is after it dries the bowl will not accept any dye.
Thank you very much. You may be right but I do not use dye myself.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
WELDONE gary super good advice. thank u. I use to wax and san paper together like u and it does work. great.
Thank you Manjit and thanks for the tip on how you do it.
Take care,
Gary
I use Titebond wood glue lll for the really deep cracks and I put some of the fine powder from sanding the wood into the crack and on top the glue. I let it dry for 12 + hours and sand off any excess. I then use ca to finish filling the crack and put more fine sanding dust on the glue and let it dry for another 12 hours and do my final sand. It normally sands out very nice but of course the filled crack is still there but looks fairly natural.
Thank you Edward for letting me know your method of filling the cracks. It seems the Titebond III is a little thinner so that should work good. I will give that a try.
Thanks for watching.
Gary
Such a nice video!!! ♥️🌈You have a new subscriber here💐 💐
Thank you very much for watching, commenting and subscribing.
Thanks again,
Gary
Thanks for the video
I do have a problem with getting the end grain to close
I have used sanding sealer in the past
Sometimes it does good but other times not so good
I know that I can cut everything into segments and have no end grain
But I feel that takes away from the beauty of the wood
Thanks again
Thank you Sherry. There is a place for segments the grain in a whole natural piece is really hard to beat.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
That is a beauty of a bowl Gary - and a big piece of sumac! I’m interested in the sanding sealer trick - I don’t normally use water-based anything on the lathe, and I have tried wet sanding with mineral oil and beeswax (I think 🤔 - its whatever Carl Jacobson and Sam Angelo wet sand with 😂) and I didn’t like that at all. It just made a big nasty mess. I’ll have to refresh my memory on water-based and oil-based finishes and what you can use on what. I do have a small can of water-based sanding sealer on hand, I suppose I should just give it a shot and see how it goes!
Thank you Lisa and I hope to be able to find more Sumac this large.
I find the water based sanding sealer and the Polycrylic made by Minwax to be a wonderful product. I first used it on a a French door i put in when I remodeled and a table I made our son. Both are still looking good after many years.
It goes on very easy and can give you a finish equal to lacquer.
What I like about it is it dries very fast and is easy to sand. This makes it perfect for wet sanding like I did. By all means give it a try and you will see how well it works making a slur and how well it sands after a fairly short time.
But for sure for wet sanding I would use the sanding sealer not the Polycrylic. Both are water based but not the same product.
Best of luck,
Gary
Beautiful! What determines when you use the 1/2 inch or the 5/8 inch gouge?
Thank you Billy. I tend to like the 1/2 inch when finishing the inside. The outside as well. I feel I can control the amount I am taking off for the final cuts.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Great video. I enjoyed you sanding techniques, however I have a question. I can wet sand it using a sanding sealer, but I have a midilathe that the lowest speed is 500. Can I still utilize it and use your technique?
Thanks
Tommy Schutz
I am sure you could wet sand at those speeds but slower would be better. You could start out by wet sanding with the lathe not running. Then try turning it on.
@@ThePapa1947 ok thank you. I will definitely try that.
Thank You Gary .. Waking up to "ThePapa1947" turning something new is almost as good as coffee in the morning...(almost...ha). Entertaining, educational and I do not have to cleanup after. Gary, at the end, it looks like you received a X-Mass present of a new Orvis zip up turning jacket? .. Beautiful grain and the bowl finish is spectacular with the high gloss polish. Really brings out that grain. Perfect "Phil" nub removable technique. .. Until the next time Gary.... TM
Thank you tuffy! Well I will take second to a cup of coffee any day. Takes me 3 just to get moving.
Well my wife got that a few months before Christmas and I love it. One of the Costco deals. Should have gotten both version. It is not allowed around chips so I can only wear it when showing the finished turning LOL.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Most of are is poisonus sumack n 3" piece would be big.most of it gets killed off.
We have poison ivy around here which is in the sumac family. I think this tree grew in someone's yard and they had it taken down. I got the wood from a tree farm so I am guessing they cut the tree down and replaced it and brought the wood back to their place of business where I found it for free. And for sure it was big, but only a few pieces. The rest was about 3" pieces.
Why add sawdust to the wet sanding when "wet sanding dust" works so well! Neat trick.
Thanks Stuart, yes it does work very well. And it is amazing how fast the water based products dry.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Hi, New turner here. I really enjoy your videos and how well you describe what you are doing. If you have an opportunity, could you do a video on tool sharpening accessories for someone starting out. What items would you consider essential early purchases and what ones could be purchased down the road. Thanks in advance. Rich
Thank you Rich, happy you enjoy my videos. I have a couple videos on sharpening and will put the links here.
This is what I use and feel it is the easiest way to sharpen a bowl gouge
Slow speed grinder 8" wheels: I have the Rikon which I paid $99.00 for. I think on sale you can still get them for $104
Then I have the Wolverine grinding system which you can find for $89 and added the vari-grind.
The grinding system comes with a platform which I use for free hand grinding of things like negative rake scrapers and skews.
Check these videos out and you can see how I use the systems. And these are what I would recommend.
If you need more detail just ask or I could make a special video
th-cam.com/video/usUPdJHp064/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ThePapa1947
th-cam.com/video/wymTRPilYB4/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ThePapa1947
Thanks so much for your speedy reply. I will check out the videos you linked. Have a great day!
Bonsoir Gary très belle réalisation bravo 👍👏 quel est ton produit miracle de finition ? Ça donne un rendu exceptionnel , d’une brillance superbe 👍 prends soins de toi mon ami et très bon week-end 🥂
Salut Denis,
J'utilise le scellant à poncer à base d'eau Minwax et le polycrylique Minwax. Il fait un travail merveilleux.
Difficile pour moi de garder une trace du week-end plus. Après avoir pris sa retraite il y a presque 10 ans, tous les jours c'est le samedi sauf le dimanche.
Merci d'avoir regardé mon ami,
Gary
Excellent Gary , la retraite c’est un métier 😂 dommage qu’on vous a supprimé les jours fériée 🤣 merci pour ta réponse Gary et à bientôt
What was the finish of the Minwax polycrylic Like satin ?
Hi Robert, it was the gloss.
Really nice work. Nitrocellulose laquer would work well after that water based sealer? Thanks very much
I think if you used it as a sanding sealer where you sand it and not build it up lacquer should work over it. But do not put so much on that it builds up. A sanding sealer is just what it says. It seals the wood and helps in the sanding process.
Experiment on a scrap first though.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
@@ThePapa1947 Thank you very much, i experimentes in a small piece, have a good day
Beautiful bowl and thanks for sharing your process. How come you never show your face in camera? 😜
Thank you Greg. Well I have a few times but when I started making videos I was nervous about the whole thing and just ended up doing this way.
If you watched to the end of this video you will see me. th-cam.com/video/5N_jpNAinfY/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ThePapa1947
I will try to slip it in some up coming videos.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
@@ThePapa1947 LOL. Everyone has their style. I just think it feels weird seeing your head cut off. My 2 cents. Hopefully, we'll see your mug on future videos. I really enjoy all that you do and learn a lot from you :)
Could you do a video on how to sharpen a bull tool??
If the bull tool is the same as the negative rake scraper I did this video on it.
th-cam.com/video/wymTRPilYB4/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ThePapa1947
If it is something let me know,
Gary
@@ThePapa1947 Thank you appreciate it
A sanding + filling variation ... if you use that black wet or dry paper to sand with the pores gets filled with black specks. Looks like holes(?) if you're not expecting it !! Nice bowl, Must weigh next to nothing eh ? Take care. -Mike
I used to always use the wet and dry paper. I use the 3M Pro now and it is the best sand paper I have used. And trust me I have used one heck of a lot of sand paper and disk over the years.
The wood is very light for sure.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Very nice bowl. I too was born in 47. Your getting old.
Thank you and thanks for reminding me. I still act like a kid at times lol.
Chances are I am older than you.
Thanks for watching.
Gary
One of those woods that is supposed to glow under UV light. I was looking at the punky wood around your tenon. Glad you made it a bit deeper.
The tree was in bad shape when it was taken down. Wish there had been bigger pieces.
I did not know it would glow under a UV light. I have Black Locust that does for sure.
I will check the Sumac on the next piece I turn.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Awesome, thank you for sharing this, Gary. 👍👍👍👍👍staghorn sumac has very beautiful grain, and I have never seen this timber.🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂
Gao thank you very much for watching and commenting.
Gary
That is a great-looking finish. I've not tried this technique since I normally use shellac sanding sealer. I'm always ready to try something different. Years ago, I wet sanded using poly on cabinet doors which gave good results. My old memory didn't recall this for bowls. Duh!
Thank you Paul Yes the other thing you can use is poly and I have.
Setup time is about the same.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Another pretty bowl!
Thank you Dave!
what is sanding sealer and why do you use it?
For this one I used Minwax water based sanding sealer. I use it because it does a good job.
If you mean why do I sand with it that would be because it creates a nice slurry that fills cracks.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Somehow, I watched half of this video, decided I wasn't focused enough, paused it and never came back until today. Am I ever glad I did. That was very useful, Gary! I've thought about trying sanding with oil, like Carl. Never have. But this grain filling method is fantastic. I'll share this with our club. I've never heard of it before. Great to learn new things. And, what a shire you achieved!
Thank you Jay! I think sanding with oil works good but then I would want to finish it with oil as well.
This does give a few more options on what finish you can use.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
i'd be interested to see how you sharpen your gouges
This should help and thanks for watching.
Gary
th-cam.com/video/usUPdJHp064/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ThePapa1947
I'm going to try this method of wet sanding. I have some Linden Tree wood that has similar characteristics only it is nearly pure white in color and very porous. I will try to accent the growth rings, but I'm not sure how...maybe a stain or even a little scorching. Very helpful video Gary and just at the right time.
Thank you Gil and let me know how it goes. Sounds like interesting wood.
Gary
Gary, I came here hopping for one of your "golden nugget tips" on finishing a bowl turning, what I came away with was an entire pan full of great tips! This is why I subscribe to your channel Sir! Thank you
Thank you so much Dave. Very happy you were pleased with what you got out of it.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting.
Gary
wow great job,,,,,,thanks for the tip
Mark hank you very much for watching and commenting.
Gary
Vorsicht bei Rißen,Zentrifugalkraft beachten
Thank you and that is always the plan.
Nice job Beautiful bowl Gary! I like the colors of that wood to, Thanks for the finishing sanding slurry tip, Enjoyed the video.👍👍👍
Thank you Kimsey, it works good but certainly not needed on all turnings.
Thanks for watching my friend,
Gary
Nice one Garry. 😊
Thanks Kevin I appreciate you watching and commenting,
Gary
Beautiful bowl. Your slurry method is great. I’ve done it before with tung oil, but never with sanding sealer. I’ll have to give that one a try. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you Doug. I have done it with wipe on poly and that works ok. I like to do it with the finish I plan on using.
But it is hard to do with shellac and lacquer do might only do small areas.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
I'm fascinated with the use and beauty of the poly-acrylic finish. I only use wax, oil, and shellac, but you've convinced me that I could get out of my comfort zone a little. Thanks again, Gary!
Thank you Perry. I am sure you will like it. For sure I would use a few coats of the water based sanding sealer first. Then the Polycrylic goes on very easily.
Best of luck,
Gary
Gary, wonderful bowl. The grain pops out with the sanded finish. I’ve used sanded oil on flat work but not “wet sanding” on the lathe. I’ve had trouble when sanding getting depressions between wide growth rings. You must run through a lot of sanding discs. Who is the supplier?
Thanks Skip, the sheets of paper are 3M Pro Grade. They have a very strong backing and last a long time.
I buy the 2" disk from Woodturners Wonders
Beautiful bowl, thanks for the finishing tips. The finish is simply gorgeous.
Thank you very much Michael and thanks for watching.
Gary
I thought I commented earlier when I watched this video, can’t find it!
This bowl is beautiful the grain looks so pronounced and gorgeous against the blonde wood! The finish is amazing, it really brings the masterpiece to a new level! Great job! Bravo!
Thank you Mary. Goes to show you that even a somewhat plain looking wood can be beautiful as well.
Take care,
Gary
hello fellow art lovers greetings healthy and successful always. thank you for sharing knowledge and always faithfully watching your latest stuff I like your ideas
I thank you very much and thanks for watching.
Gary
I’ve used wet sanding to solve similar issues with good results. The Minwax water based sealer is new to me, will be searching some out. Beautiful grain and finish. Many thanks for sharing.
Thank you Gord. Yes it does work good and not that many have done it from what I could tell.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Nice bowl Gary . And I kind of like the cracks most of the time . They can add to a piece . You are just a man of mystery Gary . Besides all that we already , now we find you ride Harley's , run the river in a drift boat and race cars ! What little surprise is in store next week ? Hope you have a great weekend and week ahead .
Thank you Jon! That was one of the rides my son's and I went on. My youngest has my cruiser now and sold his. So no more riding. In that race the car is my oldest son's who is off to another race in California I think. I only drove in that one race and it was pouring down rain. And that was in 2011. But we still have the drift boat and do that when we can.
Maybe next week I will add pictures from one of the 100 mile bicycle rides I went on. Done with that as well LOL.
At least in the hills. I did do a 40 miler with a few friends back in October. Not bad for an old guy!
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Cracking job, lovely piece of wood to turn, brilliant finish, that sanding tip has gone in my wood turning learning bank. All the best from frosty Lincolnshire UK
Thank you very much Gary. Very happy you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching.
Gary from the other side of the pond!
You have some really interesting pieces...but I think this is one of my favorites!!! Love the "papa" story as well!!!
Thank you very much Tom. Happy you enjoy my videos.
Gary
The central white area is called the pith; in sumac it is very soft. I was once sanding a sumac box with the pith included, and the sandpaper dug in about 10mm before I noticed.
The pith is horrible in Sumac. When I picked up these pieces the pith was draining like honey. Also coming out from under the bark. It reminded me of the rubber trees in Vietnam. They could clean those spiral groves out and it just ran down and out and collected in little cups hanging from the base of the tree.
After sitting for a few years it hardened up on this piece.
For everyone's information...that resin you mentioned seeping out of the pith and bark contains Urushiol or Urushiol oil, the allergen in poison ivy. Sumac is in the family of plants with the poison Ivies, sumac, cashew, and Chinese lacquer tree. The Orient processed the resin to produce the black and red lacquers you see on Korean, Japanese, and Chinese lacquer bowls and household items dating back a few thousand years.
Thanks for your information. I know the tree is connected to poison ivy.
From what I have read this tree is not the same but it is sure worth looking into it.
Very interesting information and I plan on reading more about this.
Thanks for watching and your comments.
Gary
Gary, What grind do you have on your 5/8 and 1/2 inch bowl gouges? I'm trying to learn to turn and any information is helpful. A beautiful bowl. I'll try the wet sanding with some spalted maple that I have. It's frequently punky. Thanks again
Hi Tom, it will be perfect for punky wood. You may want to start out with 150 or 220 grit if it is real punky. But always experiment with what works good for the piece of wood in the lathe. No 2 pieces of wood are the same.
Best of luck and thanks for watching.
Gary
Thanks for identifying your turning speed. Sure wish more turners on you tube would follow suit. Likewise with sharpening.
Thank you very much. Speed is something I set by feel but I know when starting out is helps to know these things plus which tool is used.
Sanding is the same as far as speed goes as well.
Happy to know it is helpful for you.
Take care,
Gary
Awesome again Sir I just cannot stop watching your videos. They are so interactive and full of detail. As we say here in the UK. the projects are JUST THE TICKET. Look forward to the next one. Paul
Thanks so much Paul I appreciate your comments.
Take care,
Gary
Very nice bowl Gary. The sumac reall has nice grain and you finishing technique really made it pop. I normally use Zinsser sanding sealer, followed by Zinsser shellac then the Ack’s treatment. But I may have to try the Minwax sanding sealer and Polycrylic on a future project. Thanks for the video. Cheers, Tom
Thank you Tom. I buy the Zinsser Seal Coat and Shellac by the gallon. Same as the Minwax sanding sealer and Polycyrlic. I like the both about the same. And I use Acks on both.
For sure the Sumac is very interesting.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Never heard of Staghorn Sumac living where I do but boy, it has a strong grain that is quite beautiful to look at. I loved your process of sanding & the explanation so clearly given. The cracks filled in very well & don't detract from the final bowl whatsoever. Phil is absolutely right when he described it as a 'Beautiful Bowl'. Great jo my friend & stay well. Don from South Aust.
Thanks so much Don, I had not heard of it before it was offered to me. It grows wild in the woods here but I think people plant it in their yards as well. I got it from a tree farm when we were buying a tree.
The wood was stacked and had been cut(probably at a customers yard) and brought back to the tree farm. I ask about it and they said take what I wanted. this was the biggest piece and I do have some smaller branches left.
Take care,
Gary
Nice work Gary 👏! Thanks for sharing your wisdom! Take care and GOD BLESS 🙏!
Thank you very much Stephen and God Bless you as well my friend,
Gary
I love to see craftspeople at work. Such economy of movement producing excellent work. In 1978 I was a member of Bath motor club and won a 12 car road rally on Saturday and a slalom competition on the Sunday in my 55 bhp Triumph 1300, so we have even more in common 🌞
Thanks so much Ray. That day in the rain was October 2011. It is my son's race car and he had been asking me to drive in at least one race. So that was it. And sure as could be when I took my time on the track it just poured down raining for the whole 45 minutes. But the good thing is I only gave up 2 spot in the finish. Your Triumph sounds very cool.
Thanks for watching.
Gary
Beautiful outcome, I will be trying your suggestions next. Thanks.
Thank you Gail! I just used in on a turning yesterday and the video is coming soon.
Thanks for watching.
Gary
Beautiful bowl Gary, the grain really stands out. Great sanding tip!
Thanks for sharing. Cheers Dave
Thank you Dave and thanks for watching.
Cheers,
Gary
That looks amazing Mr. Gary! Looks like glass! Great sand and finishing tips, thanks Gary, appreciate ya! 👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you Bruce. Happy you liked it and appreciate you watching and commenting.
Take care buddy,
Gary
Another great video Gary! You are so good about passing on things to other wood turners. I'm sure many folks found this very informative. Thanks for sharing your creativity with me again. Stay safe, Vickie
Thanks so much Vickie. I sure was hoping it would have some interest and it sure seems as though it does.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
Gary
@@ThePapa1947 Plum forgot to ask, or something... is this like the sumac weed? I'm deathly allergic to them and you had my nose actually reacting to the thought lol. Thanks, Vickie
@@vickiejenkinson2468 it is part of the family. But this is an actual tree and it is not poisonous.
Thank you- I have been looking for a better way to fill cracks. The bowl looks really pretty.
Thank you Lynda. I works really good for cracks and also for very open grain.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Lovely bowl Gary, those are excellent tips you showed us and really like that combination with minwax sanding sealer and polycrylic and you just showed another way of using them.......well done and thanks!
Cheers Al
Thank you Al, it has become one of my favorite finishes.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
The bowl came out very nice, Gary! Beautiful as always, my friend!
Thanks so much Billy. I appreciate you watching and commenting.
Take care my friend,
Gary
Another Masterpiece Gary!! That wood is pretty also.
Thanks Tom, the wood is pretty special for sure.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Great results! Papa, I have a question. Is there any significance to the shape of your negative rake scraper? From the video is appears to not be round as those in other videos appear. Just wondering. Thanks!!
Thank you Pastor Uke! Well very seldom will have the complete round edge of the tool in contact. So I have ground mine with something similar to how you use a french curve. There are lots of options along the edge to fit into the shape I am smoothing up.
I hope that makes sense but I guess I am saying I have a lot of choices from a flatter curve to the more pointed tip.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Whoa that's beautiful, Gary! I usually have a problem with the end grain, I need to try this. Thanks for always showing us other/better ways to do things. Take care!
Thank you Mike, happy you enjoyed it.
Take care my friend,
Gary
Thanks for the educational topic on finishing. I enjoy watching your videos
Rick thank you very much and thanks for watching.
Gary
Fantastic job. I really like that finish. I was wondering if that finish is considered food safe?
Thank you very much. As far as food safe goes I can not recommend that either way. If you google Polycrylic food safe you will see people saying after 30 days it is. I myself would check and see what the manufacture has to say about it.
Sorry that I am no help but when it comes to being food safe I really am not sure myself.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
That bowl turned out beautiful Gary. Thanks for sharing your sanding trick, I’ll have to give that a try.
Thank you Scott and thanks for watching,
Gary
Beautiful, I just tried doing it, but only had shellac so probably wasn't as good as what you used, but still turned out well. What kind of polycrylic do you use? Thankyou for all your wonderful demos I learn a lot from you. diana
Hi Diana, yes the shellac with setup much faster than the water based finish. I use Minwax Polycrylic but I sanded with the Minwax Water Based Poly. I think any brand of the water based would do the same.
You can also use the oil based wipe on poly to do the same. I use Minwax Wipe On Poly. I am not connected with them and I doubt they even know who I am but I just like the product.
Bottom line: Shellac and lacquer will work but it will dry out way to fast. That said I have done small areas with shellac.
Thanks for watching,
Gary