There are a number of good demonstrators in the TH-cam turning world but you combine that with some of the best information and education I’ve seen. Thanks.
Thank you very much Kent. You are one of the very best instructors/teachers I have ever encountered. I look forward to turning my next bowl ( later this morning) to see if I remember all seven tips. You are appreciated!!!
Kent. Thank you for this information. It has proven to be invaluable to me. As a relatively new wood turner, I was struggling with this issue a lot. This video helped me immensely. Thanks again for creating all the excellent educational videos.
Man your videos are the freaking best! I’ve watched a bunch of them and they have helped me a ton. I’m still getting used to using the bowl gouge and man the difference it made when I got a grinder to put the 55* swept back grind on it! I still need a ton of more practice with it but your videos help out so much! Thank you brother 🙏
Great to hear! So happy for you. If you need help with shaping and sharpening, check out my Tool Sharpening online course turnawoodbowl.com/tool-sharpening-ecourse-for-wood-bowl-turning/
Your explanations are very clear, even for someone whose mother tongue is not English. The sketchs especially in your articles speaks a thousand words. Thank you very much for your video.
Liz J Farmington Minnesota Bowl I would love to win that bowl! Gorgeous! It was hard finding a video of yours I haven't watched already LOL, I hope I entered the contest properly and congrats on 50K! I knew you could do it!
Some good tips there. I think I'd already got them just by sheer tenacity. But having them explained was very instructive. Another useful video - thanks.
Great tips as usual. I would like to see one or more followups on the inside cuts especially natural edge and unique grain such as burl and crotch grains. Again super video. Thanks
I've just got a lathe and this video is very relevant to me today! Thank you for such a clear and helpful tutorial. I will be working my way through all your videos now!
I've been binge watching your videos for the excellent training provided. I hope to have my new lathe in my shop before the first of the year. Watching your videos will give me a head start with fewer hard lessons learned first hand.
Very well done as usual. The visuals you used to demonstrate the concept of end grain fibers was excellent. Sign of a good teacher. I was aware of most of the tips but very good reminders. #7 tip though made my time viewing most profitable. Loved the idea of using the shellac for support of the fibers. The mention of Richard Raffan (who I consider my mentor) shows you have learned from the best. Thank you for your thoughtfully prepared presentations.
Bowl gouge is still new to me. Didn’t have one, made my own. Watched your bowl gouge angle vid and this one. Between the two, this was my aha moment. Mostly make bodhran tippers (Celtic drumsticks) which is spindle work, but recently upgraded my lathe and have been playing with bowls and lidded boxes. Been favouring my carbide tools for a lot of this journey, mostly due to a lack of a good sharpening setup. With my homemade bowl gouge, I did a freehand 40/40 grind on a crappy bench grinder with no angle support then refined it by hand with diamond stones, tried it out and I found your so called aha moment.
Mein Englisch ist immer noch sehr sehr schlecht , aber so wie Du es erklärst ist genial !! Wundervoll, danke Dir ich habe wieder gelernt , danke . Lieben Gruß aus 🇩🇪 . Dirk
Oh toll! Nun, mein Deutsch ist nicht vorhanden, daher bin ich begeistert, dass Sie von diesem Video profitieren konnten. Haben Sie übrigens Peter Wohllebens Buch "Das verborgene Leben der Bäume" gelesen? Es ist unglaublich und ich würde diese Wälder gerne eines Tages in Deutschland sehen. Alles Gute für dich und Happy Turning!
I've turning some very dry cedar. Your shellac treatment plus other tips in sequence have made a great difference in reducing end-grain tear out. Thank you. You are a great teacher and visual demonstrator.
I also use thin CA glue on my dry, exotic hardwood and it surely helps (shellac not so much when they are.. *literally* hard core😂🙈) Thanks for refreshing the fundamentals!
@@TurnAWoodBowl I epwas going to ask about that. The CA glue or tge wood glue and then rubbing in sawdust, like I’ve seen done for cracks. Does that help?
Good Afternoon Kent, You most definitely helped me understand more about End Grain tear out! I will be using The next time I get a bowl to turn ! You always have great information that you pass on to the folks that watch your videos . Thank you again for sharing the important things About problems everyone Will have when they try fighting END GRAIN !!!!! Take Care and Be Safe
Very nice explanation. I would add a skew chisel to be used for the finish, but if used in the wrong way it can ruin your workpiece within the glimpse of an eye.
Always wonderful way to explain the problems and their effective solutions. I am a first timer turner and I run to Kent's videos when I need a solution to my turning problem. Once I understood the solution, I apply it in my turning: the result I successfully manage to eliminate the problem. What is delightful is that you care to answer my posts, I do not feel ignored. With some engineering background, I understood the geometry of he bowl gouge and the dynamics of its meeting with the revolving wood. This helped to learn to avoid a catch. Now if I get a catch, I know what I did wrong and rectify it. Thanks Kent for your help to all wood turners, especially to a new turner like me. I purchased three carbide-tip gouges, but for some reason I enjoy more using the conventional bowl gouge. Do they make conventional bowl gouge with carbide tip? Best.
VK, Thank you for writing and sharing. I'm so glad to be able to help when you need it. But I'm more glad that you are enjoying the process of turning. Yes, I believe there is more of a connection between the turner and the wood with the bowl gouge compared to the carbide scraper. Of course they both work, but there's a cleaner, more natural feeling with the gouge. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
This is such great info!!! I really love your videos!!!!! On really punky wood, I’ve also used thin CA glue which helps turn end grain if shellac doesn’t do the job. I’m too stubborn to trash rubbish wood 🤭
Yep, think I have done most if not all of the tips you gave in my short time turning. One more that I've tried, is to turn the lathe speed down when you get tear out. That came from a pro turner. Thanks for sharing Kent. Safe turning.
Again, very useful advice: tear out is quite an issue with the seasoned pine I am using. And, by the way, the fibres in the timber xylem are real “straws” that take water from the roots of the tree to the leaves so your straw model is perfect.
Thanks for the info! Have you read "The Hidden Life of Trees" by Peter Wohlleben. The straw info is correct, but did you know that we (humans) still have not figured out how the water is lifted all the way to the tops of the trees? They explain how the "quick" answers we've long believed don't actually work like we thought. It's an amazing read, that will have you looking at every tree differently. Here's the book amzn.to/3dAq6Fj
Wonderful focused tips on tear out, but actually great reinforcement on good turning techniques in general. Not disappointed in any of your videos - thanks for all you do for us turners-in-training out here in radioland.
Thank you for your terrific videos! New turner here. I don't understand why the unsupported grain after the end grain isn't a worse problem than the end grain. If I were using a router on a board with similar grain, the most vulnerable edge would be the section with the unsupported grain. I would consider making a climb cut there. It would be like reversing the direction the bowl is turning for just that section. Thanks for any help.
LOL! Yes, think of shellac as a "tool" or "secret weapon/" It's so versatile, simple, and easy to use, you might forget about it at times. But tear out is the time to use it liberally. Happy Turning!
Thanks Ken, I'm currently battling a beautiful bit of cherry into a live edge bowl and am getting terrible tear out. I'll try all your tips and if it doesn't work, life is too short to turn rubbish!! Appreciate your videos.
I've been working with some catalpa a friend gifted me.....this stuff tears out on the ends terribly! I have been able to sheer scrape it and pretty much clean it up. You are so right about grain direction; a good understanding will change ones life! Thanks for the video and all the great information😊
Yes they do, except for the shear scraping. Never use a bowl gouge to shear scrape the interior of a bowl, use the round nose scraper there. Good question. Happy Turning!
Hi Kent , I will say that I have been getting kinda lucky with the end grain as I was learning, the last few bowls have had issues and I’m rewatching your videos to see what I’ve missed , turning a bowl to finish with even slightly green wood has proven to be a bad choice as it’s warping in me most of the time before I even get it completely sanded. I also have found that in continuing to follow your advice it is getting much easier to follow your examples and advice example to move your body instead of your arms while cutting out the shape of a project. I may have missed it but do you have a video on green wood ? Thank you for your great instructions and advice to help us learn and become better in our turning experience
Robert, Thank you for writing and sharing! Yes, actually I have a full course on green wood. Check it out www.TurnAWoodBowl.com/green All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Only having and using a lathe for about 3 weeks and knowing nothing about turning when starting, I find your videos invaluable. You really are awesome at instruction. One question, why does coming from bottom of bowl help with end grain tearout versus coming from top of bowl down. I understand the supported cut thing some what but not really understanding the fibers not being supported coming down from the top if the fibers seem to be running the same direction on either cut. I know I must be missing something here just not seeing it at the moment why. Again, thanks for your videos, I think they are among the best of the best out there.
Very good explanation - thanks. I have been turning a pretty green piece of lime today that has terrible tear out and was wondering if the moisture was the problem, but I will try again tomorrow with pointers and treat it as a learning curve.
I'm in the middle of turning a bunch of deep willow bowls that suffer mightily from tear out. Thanks for a reminder of the basics. Surprised though that you did not mention sheer cuts which seem to help a lot.
Oh, I didn't forget shear-scraping, it's one of my more lengthy options. See this article turnawoodbowl.com/14-ways-to-avoid-wood-grain-tear-out-with-wooden-bowls/ I wanted this video to nail the main issues with tear out. Thanks for sharing! Happy Turning!
Good question. The thinner, 1-pound cut, will penetrate pretty far. It will definitely soak in past any torn grain fibers and that is what needs to be cut clean in order to have a smooth finish. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Hi Kent, another fab vid! My worry might be starting with the shellac trick and thus maybe I won't get as good at the first 6 things to do. But hey, I am still working on perfecting the 6. And if I can remember, I'll try the shellac. BTW, I'll keep cutting until it's a toothpick - no such thing as rubbish in my shop! hehe. Stay safe. -Mike😷
That's a great way to master your cutting techniques. Get it right on that dry cedar, then when you get a piece of green maple or cherry it will turn like butter. ;) I learned to turn bowls with old punky dried out pecan. I really had no idea until one day I turned a piece of green cherry. It was like a bar of soap. ;) All the best to you and Happy Turning!
@@TurnAWoodBowl Kent, thanks! I did some turning, and loved it, on my old Shopsmith … 25 years ago. Had to let it go, and just recently got a new SS . I got talking with widow in our congregation whose husband died a couple of years ago. She showed me his workshop, and I saw a partially tuned bowl, and I offered to clean it up and finish it for her. She loved the idea … well, now I find iI'm end-grain tearing it up … Humm … I think I'll go find some shellac and toughen it up again before trying again … In any case, thank you for your clear and skillful educational work!
Ken, as always, thanks for sharing your wisdom. This was a very helpful video. I don't often have a problem with tear out when working on the outside of a bowl but do encounter tear out at the bottom of bowls. I also have tear out on what I would describe as the wings of a live or natural edge bowl (sometimes on the outside and often on the inside). I'd appreciate any suggestions to avoid this problem. If this is a common issue maybe you could share a short video on these specifics.
Another really great and invaluable tutorial masterpiece. You explain and then reinforce in such a way that your video plays again in the mind as one turns, at least for me it does. That and the passion you put into what you are doing is what makes for an excellent teacher. Thank you for the contribution you make in the lives of those of us learning this art form. Take care and stay safe in this crazy time.
Hey Kent - I’m recently getting into bowl turning and your videos have been invaluable. Thank you! I have a question for you - how do you do a supported cut inside the bowl? That’s where I’m getting my tear out and I’m trying to figure out how to follow rule two! Thanks!
Thank you for writing and sharing! Glad you're learning from the videos. Watch this one th-cam.com/video/wQyiLOuYY5I/w-d-xo.html and read this article too. turnawoodbowl.com/wood-bowl-bottom-6-tricks-perfection/ All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Hi Kent when you glue your bowl blank to a wooden block on the layth what glue is the best one to use love the video's as I have just bought a wood layth not been able to use it yet but can't wait to use it.
Thanks so much Kent. Just started turning about 4 months ago on my late father's 100 year old Delta wood lathe. Please can you cover tearout on the inside cut of the bowl. That cut is going the opposite direction to a supported cut. And with softer wood tearout seems inevitable. Also can you go through tear out on end grain work like salt shakers and lidded boxes.
Awesome! I just came upstairs from working the out side of a 10" PA wild cherry bowl (Dry). I'm getting a bit more tear out than I should. This video helps! I see you have a RS pro edge. Last week I just received mine. Can you get the 55° angle from it? Thanks, Gary
So glad this has helped! Yes, and I show how to do the 55° and all the bowl turning tools on the Robert Sorbey, as well as the Oneway Wolverine in my Tool Sharpening online eCourse. Check it out. turnawoodbowl.com/tool-sharpening-ecourse-for-wood-bowl-turning/ All the best to you!
There are a number of good demonstrators in the TH-cam turning world but you combine that with some of the best information and education I’ve seen. Thanks.
Wow, thanks! I greatly appreciate your kindness! All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Having this issue with my first project of willow
some of the best turning videos on TH-cam thank you
Wow, thanks, Alan! Happy Turning! Kent
Love the continual reinforcement of the fundamentals
Terry, thanks. That's what amazing skills are built on! ;)
Just came into woodturning. Turned some bowls already. This is getting more interesting by the minute 🥰
Boy, I sure learn stuff when I listen to you. Thanks.
Glad to help! Happy Turning!
Good stuff Ken and very timely for me. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful Bill! All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Can you do a video of a end grain bowl. I like the side grain video it's easy to understand.
I'll consider that. Thanks.
Thank you very much Kent. You are one of the very best instructors/teachers I have ever encountered. I look forward to turning my next bowl ( later this morning) to see if I remember all seven tips. You are appreciated!!!
Wow, thanks and I appreciate you and your comments. Thanks and Happy Turning!
Kent,
I have been turning for 5 years, and NOW I understand tear out. The AHA moment was the celery. Thx, Bob
Fantastic! May all your future turnings benefit! Happy Turning!
Kent. Thank you for this information. It has proven to be invaluable to me. As a relatively new wood turner, I was struggling with this issue a lot. This video helped me immensely. Thanks again for creating all the excellent educational videos.
Thank you for writing and sharing Scott! I'm so glad this helped. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Thanks for your videos they're great, particularly for new turners who are unable to attend club meetings during the current situation.
Absolutely. So glad you are enjoying and learning. Glad to have you along. Happy Turning!
I use sanding sealer to strengthen the end grain. Nice video.
Cool, thanks
Man your videos are the freaking best! I’ve watched a bunch of them and they have helped me a ton. I’m still getting used to using the bowl gouge and man the difference it made when I got a grinder to put the 55* swept back grind on it! I still need a ton of more practice with it but your videos help out so much! Thank you brother 🙏
Great to hear! So happy for you. If you need help with shaping and sharpening, check out my Tool Sharpening online course turnawoodbowl.com/tool-sharpening-ecourse-for-wood-bowl-turning/
Thanks for the concise guide to smoothing end grain !
Your explanations are very clear, even for someone whose mother tongue is not English. The sketchs especially in your articles speaks a thousand words. Thank you very much for your video.
Wow, thank you! So glad to help! Happy Turning!
Such good info My skills improve after every vidio
Thanks kent
Liz J
Farmington Minnesota
Bowl
I would love to win that bowl! Gorgeous! It was hard finding a video of yours I haven't watched already LOL, I hope I entered the contest properly and congrats on 50K! I knew you could do it!
Thank you for entering! Happy Turning!
Some good tips there. I think I'd already got them just by sheer tenacity. But having them explained was very instructive. Another useful video - thanks.
Great to hear! Thank you! Happy Turning!
Excellent and very interesting project. Thank you 👌👌👌👌
Thank you! Cheers!
Great tips as usual. I would like to see one or more followups on the inside cuts especially natural edge and unique grain such as burl and crotch grains. Again super video. Thanks
Thanks. I'll see what I can do!
I agree with Terry Benton .... "continual reinforcement" ............well done sir!
Thank you, glad you enjoyed. Happy Turning!
I've just got a lathe and this video is very relevant to me today! Thank you for such a clear and helpful tutorial. I will be working my way through all your videos now!
You're very welcome, Rachel! All the best to you and Happy Turning!
I've been binge watching your videos for the excellent training provided. I hope to have my new lathe in my shop before the first of the year. Watching your videos will give me a head start with fewer hard lessons learned first hand.
Welcome aboard, Kim! That's awesome. Thanks for sharing and Happy Turning!
Very well done as usual. The visuals you used to demonstrate the concept of end grain fibers was excellent. Sign of a good teacher. I was aware of most of the tips but very good reminders. #7 tip though made my time viewing most profitable. Loved the idea of using the shellac for support of the fibers. The mention of Richard Raffan (who I consider my mentor) shows you have learned from the best. Thank you for your thoughtfully prepared presentations.
Thank you, John! Much appreciated. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Sanding sealer works very well also.
It does
awesome video, awesome tips, thanks for your channel!
My pleasure, Bruce! Thank you, and Happy Turning!
Thank you. What you said makes sense and having the explanation and demonstrations reinforced the seven tips well.
Fantastic! So glad to help! Happy Turning!
Bowl gouge is still new to me. Didn’t have one, made my own. Watched your bowl gouge angle vid and this one. Between the two, this was my aha moment. Mostly make bodhran tippers (Celtic drumsticks) which is spindle work, but recently upgraded my lathe and have been playing with bowls and lidded boxes. Been favouring my carbide tools for a lot of this journey, mostly due to a lack of a good sharpening setup. With my homemade bowl gouge, I did a freehand 40/40 grind on a crappy bench grinder with no angle support then refined it by hand with diamond stones, tried it out and I found your so called aha moment.
I'm glad its all coming together for you. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Mein Englisch ist immer noch sehr sehr schlecht , aber so wie Du es erklärst ist genial !!
Wundervoll, danke Dir ich habe wieder gelernt , danke . Lieben Gruß aus 🇩🇪 . Dirk
Oh toll! Nun, mein Deutsch ist nicht vorhanden, daher bin ich begeistert, dass Sie von diesem Video profitieren konnten. Haben Sie übrigens Peter Wohllebens Buch "Das verborgene Leben der Bäume" gelesen? Es ist unglaublich und ich würde diese Wälder gerne eines Tages in Deutschland sehen. Alles Gute für dich und Happy Turning!
I've turning some very dry cedar. Your shellac treatment plus other tips in sequence have made a great difference in reducing end-grain tear out. Thank you. You are a great teacher and visual demonstrator.
Thank you, James. Glad to help! Happy Turning!
Thanks Kent
Your numbers in viewing and subscriptions are climbing fast. Good for you,your channel deserves it. I appreciate the time and effort.
So nice of you to say this. Thank You! I appreciate you!
Great video and very clear demonstration has helped out my bowl turning a lot!
I really like your style of presentation - easy, calm, measured with good videos. Thanks. - Manny
I appreciate that! Thanks Manny!
God Bless you ... Best style and best detailed teaching
Thanks a lot, much appreciated. Happy Turning!
Another great video, Kent! Keep 'em coming!
Thanks for watching
Thanks for your videos.
I enjoy and I'm learning to use the bowl gauche
Wonderful! Thank you and Happy Turning!
I also use thin CA glue on my dry, exotic hardwood and it surely helps (shellac not so much when they are.. *literally* hard core😂🙈)
Thanks for refreshing the fundamentals!
Yes, CA works too. Thanks for sharing. Happy Turning!
@@TurnAWoodBowl I epwas going to ask about that. The CA glue or tge wood glue and then rubbing in sawdust, like I’ve seen done for cracks. Does that help?
I'm learning so much from you, thank you
You are so welcome!
I enjoyed the presentation and hope (I am sure) that it will solve my problem. Many thanks from Quebec, Canada
I hope so too! All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Good Afternoon Kent,
You most definitely helped me understand more about End
Grain tear out! I will be using
The next time I get a bowl to turn ! You always have great information that you pass on to the folks that watch your videos . Thank you again for sharing the important things
About problems everyone
Will have when they try fighting END GRAIN !!!!!
Take Care and Be Safe
Awesome, Larry! I'm so glad this is helping! All the best to you and Happy Turning!
@@TurnAWoodBowl
The Thanks goes to you !
You make some of the best turning videos on the net. Thank you
Could you do a video on inside tear out?
Thank you, MAC. I'll see what I can do. Happy Turning!
Very nice explanation. I would add a skew chisel to be used for the finish, but if used in the wrong way it can ruin your workpiece within the glimpse of an eye.
Correct, a skew can be more of a problem at times. Happy Turning!
Great video learning a lot every time I watch one .
Awesome, thank you!
Always wonderful way to explain the problems and their effective solutions. I am a first timer turner and I run to Kent's videos when I need a solution to my turning problem. Once I understood the solution, I apply it in my turning: the result I successfully manage to eliminate the problem. What is delightful is that you care to answer my posts, I do not feel ignored. With some engineering background, I understood the geometry of he bowl gouge and the dynamics of its meeting with the revolving wood. This helped to learn to avoid a catch. Now if I get a catch, I know what I did wrong and rectify it. Thanks Kent for your help to all wood turners, especially to a new turner like me. I purchased three carbide-tip gouges, but for some reason I enjoy more using the conventional bowl gouge. Do they make conventional bowl gouge with carbide tip? Best.
VK, Thank you for writing and sharing. I'm so glad to be able to help when you need it. But I'm more glad that you are enjoying the process of turning. Yes, I believe there is more of a connection between the turner and the wood with the bowl gouge compared to the carbide scraper. Of course they both work, but there's a cleaner, more natural feeling with the gouge. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
So helpful, again!
Glad it was helpful! Thank you!
Thanks for the video, I'm new to this and everything helps. I have a 1/2 inch bowl gouge coming, can't wait to try riding the bevel !
You can do it Ron. Remember; persistent, patient practice will yield the bowls you imagine creating! Happy Turning!
absolutely helpful.
Glad it was helpful! Thank you and Happy Turning!
Excellent tips. What about using fast setting epoxy?
Yes, that works too. See my full article turnawoodbowl.com/14-ways-to-avoid-wood-grain-tear-out-with-wooden-bowls/ Thanks
Super informative! Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks and Happy Turning!
Excellent ideas. I am not a full time turner but have learn some of you tricks which will help me.
Great to hear! Happy Turning!
Thanks a bunch, Kent. I'm off to the shop!!
Hope you enjoy! All the best!
Another master class - excellent and thanks. Best Hugh
My pleasure! Thank you and Happy Turning!
Excellent tutorial as always 👍
Thank you, James! Happy Turning!
Howard Wittwer
Your tips continue to improve my turning of bowls
Improved bowls is always a PLUS! Thanks glad to hear. Happy Turning!
This is such great info!!! I really love your videos!!!!! On really punky wood, I’ve also used thin CA glue which helps turn end grain if shellac doesn’t do the job. I’m too stubborn to trash rubbish wood 🤭
Awesome! Thank you!
Yep, think I have done most if not all of the tips you gave in my short time turning. One more that I've tried, is to turn the lathe speed down when you get tear out. That came from a pro turner. Thanks for sharing Kent. Safe turning.
Excellent! Thanks for sharing!
Thank you very much, subscribed
Thanks for the sub! Much appreciated! Happy Turning!
Just what I needed!
Fantastic. Happy Turning!
Great and helpful video!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks!
Very good advice
Great info, I do most of the tips and learned a few more tips. We will see, its got to help Thanks
Glad to hear it! Happy Turning!
Thanks,very useful and so clearly demonstrated.
Very helpful, thanks.
Glad it was helpful Tim! Happy Turning!
Thanks for the tips. Nice video
You bet
ThankQ Kent I love your videos, all well done and very instructional. Good Job But, why all the commercials?
Sorry about that, its what allows me to share all this FREE info with you. Happy Turning!
Thanks! That helped a 15 year old noob!
Great! Glad to help Rutsuko! All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Again, very useful advice: tear out is quite an issue with the seasoned pine I am using. And, by the way, the fibres in the timber xylem are real “straws” that take water from the roots of the tree to the leaves so your straw model is perfect.
Thanks for the info! Have you read "The Hidden Life of Trees" by Peter Wohlleben. The straw info is correct, but did you know that we (humans) still have not figured out how the water is lifted all the way to the tops of the trees? They explain how the "quick" answers we've long believed don't actually work like we thought. It's an amazing read, that will have you looking at every tree differently. Here's the book amzn.to/3dAq6Fj
Wonderful focused tips on tear out, but actually great reinforcement on good turning techniques in general. Not disappointed in any of your videos - thanks for all you do for us turners-in-training out here in radioland.
Thank you very much! Happy Turning!
Thank you for your terrific videos!
New turner here. I don't understand why the unsupported grain after the end grain isn't a worse problem than the end grain. If I were using a router on a board with similar grain, the most vulnerable edge would be the section with the unsupported grain. I would consider making a climb cut there. It would be like reversing the direction the bowl is turning for just that section. Thanks for any help.
Paul, Thank you for writing and sharing! Check out this article turnawoodbowl.com/supported-cut-wood-grain-bowl-gouge-cut-direction/
Great advice thing's to remember
Regards
Steve UK London
Glad to dust up that memory. We all need that from time to time. LOL Happy Turning!
Good stuff! Thank you.
Fantabidosi! Grwet tutorial : most ueful, Thanks muchly.
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Great video. I always learn something new that I can use. Thanks.
Glad to help. Thanks!
I knew it was gonna be shellac lol i remember u mentioning it in an older video. I used this tip when having issue and it definitely did the trick
LOL! Yes, think of shellac as a "tool" or "secret weapon/" It's so versatile, simple, and easy to use, you might forget about it at times. But tear out is the time to use it liberally. Happy Turning!
Thanks Ken, I'm currently battling a beautiful bit of cherry into a live edge bowl and am getting terrible tear out. I'll try all your tips and if it doesn't work, life is too short to turn rubbish!! Appreciate your videos.
Thank you, Ben! You can do it! All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Thank you Kent!
You are very welcome
Great channel and great advise! Thanks for your tips, tricks and techniques.
Glad it was helpful! And thank you. Happy Turning!
I've been working with some catalpa a friend gifted me.....this stuff tears out on the ends terribly! I have been able to sheer scrape it and pretty much clean it up. You are so right about grain direction; a good understanding will change ones life! Thanks for the video and all the great information😊
Here's to life-changing understanding of grain direction! ;) Happy Turning!
Great tips. Thanks
You bet!
Great instruction. Do the 7 tips all apply when coring the bowl blank? Does everything work the same on the inside as the outside?
Yes they do, except for the shear scraping. Never use a bowl gouge to shear scrape the interior of a bowl, use the round nose scraper there. Good question. Happy Turning!
Hi Kent , I will say that I have been getting kinda lucky with the end grain as I was learning, the last few bowls have had issues and I’m rewatching your videos to see what I’ve missed , turning a bowl to finish with even slightly green wood has proven to be a bad choice as it’s warping in me most of the time before I even get it completely sanded. I also have found that in continuing to follow your advice it is getting much easier to follow your examples and advice example to move your body instead of your arms while cutting out the shape of a project.
I may have missed it but do you have a video on green wood ?
Thank you for your great instructions and advice to help us learn and become better in our turning experience
Robert, Thank you for writing and sharing! Yes, actually I have a full course on green wood. Check it out www.TurnAWoodBowl.com/green All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Great info. Thanks
You bet!
Love it learning alot thank you. Would love to see the bowl finished. Got a lot of pecan in the yard. Live in GA pecan trees everywhere
Sounds great! Maybe I'll turn a pecan bowl as one of my start to finish videos. They look amazing with a lacquer finish. Thank you! Happy Turning!
Great Video, I will be trying out this method today.
Excellent. Happy Turning!
Only having and using a lathe for about 3 weeks and knowing nothing about turning when starting, I find your videos invaluable. You really are awesome at instruction. One question, why does coming from bottom of bowl help with end grain tearout versus coming from top of bowl down. I understand the supported cut thing some what but not really understanding the fibers not being supported coming down from the top if the fibers seem to be running the same direction on either cut. I know I must be missing something here just not seeing it at the moment why. Again, thanks for your videos, I think they are among the best of the best out there.
I think you're going to find my Which Direction? video very helpful! Happy Turning!
Very good explanation - thanks. I have been turning a pretty green piece of lime today that has terrible tear out and was wondering if the moisture was the problem, but I will try again tomorrow with pointers and treat it as a learning curve.
I'm in the middle of turning a bunch of deep willow bowls that suffer mightily from tear out. Thanks for a reminder of the basics. Surprised though that you did not mention sheer cuts which seem to help a lot.
Oh, I didn't forget shear-scraping, it's one of my more lengthy options. See this article turnawoodbowl.com/14-ways-to-avoid-wood-grain-tear-out-with-wooden-bowls/ I wanted this video to nail the main issues with tear out. Thanks for sharing! Happy Turning!
thanks for the tips...I've been using shellac to stabilize my wood since I started turning.
Glad to help. Happy Turning!
Great tips! How much material should I leave for reinforcing with shellac - how deep does the shellac penetrate?
Good question. The thinner, 1-pound cut, will penetrate pretty far. It will definitely soak in past any torn grain fibers and that is what needs to be cut clean in order to have a smooth finish. All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Great review--thanks for the tips on what to look for!
No problem!
Hi Kent, another fab vid! My worry might be starting with the shellac trick and thus maybe I won't get as good at the first 6 things to do. But hey, I am still working on perfecting the 6. And if I can remember, I'll try the shellac. BTW, I'll keep cutting until it's a toothpick - no such thing as rubbish in my shop! hehe. Stay safe. -Mike😷
LOL. I love it! Always enough for one more cut! Happy Turning!
thanks, a great lesson much learned and appreciated
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you, very helpful! I’m trying to turn old, dry cedar? And getting lots of tear out
That's a great way to master your cutting techniques. Get it right on that dry cedar, then when you get a piece of green maple or cherry it will turn like butter. ;) I learned to turn bowls with old punky dried out pecan. I really had no idea until one day I turned a piece of green cherry. It was like a bar of soap. ;) All the best to you and Happy Turning!
@@TurnAWoodBowl Kent, thanks! I did some turning, and loved it, on my old Shopsmith … 25 years ago. Had to let it go, and just recently got a new SS . I got talking with widow in our congregation whose husband died a couple of years ago. She showed me his workshop, and I saw a partially tuned bowl, and I offered to clean it up and finish it for her. She loved the idea … well, now I find iI'm end-grain tearing it up … Humm … I think I'll go find some shellac and toughen it up again before trying again … In any case, thank you for your clear and skillful educational work!
Ken, as always, thanks for sharing your wisdom. This was a very helpful video. I don't often have a problem with tear out when working on the outside of a bowl but do encounter tear out at the bottom of bowls. I also have tear out on what I would describe as the wings of a live or natural edge bowl (sometimes on the outside and often on the inside). I'd appreciate any suggestions to avoid this problem. If this is a common issue maybe you could share a short video on these specifics.
Another really great and invaluable tutorial masterpiece. You explain and then reinforce in such a way that your video plays again in the mind as one turns, at least for me it does. That and the passion you put into what you are doing is what makes for an excellent teacher. Thank you for the contribution you make in the lives of those of us learning this art form. Take care and stay safe in this crazy time.
Wow, thank you! It's comments like yours that keep me going and make it all worth it. Thank you so much. All the best to you and HAPPY TURNING!
Hey Kent - I’m recently getting into bowl turning and your videos have been invaluable. Thank you!
I have a question for you - how do you do a supported cut inside the bowl? That’s where I’m getting my tear out and I’m trying to figure out how to follow rule two!
Thanks!
Thank you for writing and sharing! Glad you're learning from the videos.
Watch this one th-cam.com/video/wQyiLOuYY5I/w-d-xo.html and read this article too. turnawoodbowl.com/wood-bowl-bottom-6-tricks-perfection/
All the best to you and Happy Turning!
Hi Kent when you glue your bowl blank to a wooden block on the layth what glue is the best one to use love the video's as I have just bought a wood layth not been able to use it yet but can't wait to use it.
I don't use a lot of glue blocks, but Titebond III is a very good wood glue. Happy Turning!
my big problem is on the interior of the bowl. does the same apply?
Thanks so much Kent. Just started turning about 4 months ago on my late father's 100 year old Delta wood lathe. Please can you cover tearout on the inside cut of the bowl. That cut is going the opposite direction to a supported cut. And with softer wood tearout seems inevitable. Also can you go through tear out on end grain work like salt shakers and lidded boxes.
I'll see what I can do. Be sure to watch this video too th-cam.com/video/WRC0NW4R7gA/w-d-xo.html Happy Turning!
Awesome! I just came upstairs from working the out side of a 10" PA wild cherry bowl (Dry). I'm getting a bit more tear out than I should. This video helps! I see you have a RS pro edge. Last week I just received mine. Can you get the 55° angle from it? Thanks, Gary
So glad this has helped! Yes, and I show how to do the 55° and all the bowl turning tools on the Robert Sorbey, as well as the Oneway Wolverine in my Tool Sharpening online eCourse. Check it out. turnawoodbowl.com/tool-sharpening-ecourse-for-wood-bowl-turning/ All the best to you!