I once said to my Indian friend "So many of your arranged marriages are not happy." His response was "So many of your by choice marriages are not happy either." I had to admit he was right
It depends. If you have the right kind of family, and the right kind of parents, then it can work. I come from a Bengali background, where arranged marriages are also common. But the difference is that I was taken to a matchmaker when I was 16, not 30. So my parents could evaluate my worth - in their words. It totally depends. Arranged marriages can become forced marriages in just the wrong circumstances.
um well arranged marriages should be just about introducing 2 people around the same age and let them date for a while. if it's just meeting on the wedding night it's so wrong
It did use to be like that - on the wedding day, anyway. It's slowly changing in some parts of the world, but it's not in the distant past in some cultures.
RagnarokLoki2012 I feel sorry for you. I'm Bengali by ethnicity but I'm not in that process until after 2021. I would be 25 then and Insha Allah I'll have a husband that is meant for me one day.
What is the dividing line between arranged and forced? Force is a rather vague word that embraces a range of possibilities from coercion and pressure tactics to blackmail to full on physical force. Using a cycle of shame and guilt or instilling a taboo to act against your parents wishes is a form of coercion that just might qualify as force. If you think that every "arranged" marriage received perfect consent by the respective couples then I have some swamp land to sell you.
Definitely. The couple always had a choice to agree to marry or not. Someone arranged for Meghan to meet Prince Harry. India mostly has arranged marriages, whereas Middle East mostly has forced marriages.
Cristie A.. Try to look on the internet the majority of forced marriages is in India/Pakistan/Bangladesh also other African countries and south of America as well. In the middle east there is indeed but it’s more in India and Pakistan because of the population.
@The Elite Killa I think your sister's marriage isn't the type of arranged marriage that people're talking about. The arranged marriage has involvement of family members: parents and grandparents. They'll look through the girl/man's background, consider if he/she's suitable with their conditions. If yes, 2 families will talk first, then arrange a meeting for the couple. Sometimes, the couple first met has their family's presence too. In your sister's case, it's just like a good friend introduce a good guy for her friend, there's no family's involvement at the first step.
YOU TOO!? I am a father with a daughter who though people on TINDER were genuine men.... she found out how FALSE that was! - I get to say, "I TOLD YOU SO!" LOL!
This person was my chess teacher for a year. He really is a good man and it’s awesome seeing him in a big ted talk. He also now has a daughter for anyone wondering.
Thats great! Unfortunately it doesnt go that good for everybody. My parents are not the happiest couple ever. They have been married for 33 years. They obviously deal with each other. They wont get divorced or anything but they arent really the happiest of couple ya know :)
Mine are both as weird as eachother and I guess that's why they actually work.I just hope I find someone who through all of life who don't want to let me go.
Agreed clean dating should not be frowned upon. You gotta know each other whome you are marrying not only family history and stability. To make all the process less stressful. Walking blind is scary let alone on a new road and it's a matter of your whole life.
Once i got the advise to have long "conversations" in any situation with the prince of my heart, even if he, as a person was fantasy at that time, this will make it easier to recognize him once he crosses my way - and it worked. While "talking" to him I got to know the man I wanted to have, so when we met real life, it was a very easy decision.
Thank You Mrs. Cheryl Dwyer-Such a Heartfelt comment, but it was not random- " It was FATE that brought us together at that special restaurant" Your crew was pretty intriguing as well- give them my greetings&Thanks Again.
people still confuse arranged marriages with forced marriages. we have our friends setting us up for blind dates and these are no different. if you like each other you continue and if you don't you say goodbye to each other.
YnnyY&nne OilRyser No arranged marriage is forced? I’m sorry what? What about all the women who get married off to a random guy their family chooses for them? They aren’t given the right to choose, if they refuse they are deemed as dishonorable. If that’s not called “force” i don’t know what is.
NISHAT lala as long as there is no threat of violence from her parents and/or spouse or otherwise, there is no force going on. Forced marriages are only a thing if there are such threats present. THAT is bad.
in a perfect world, there is a choice. The line between arranged and forced marriage is very blurry, and absolutely not as clear cut as this guy put it. It's great he had a positive experience, but just because someone felt extreme pressure/was coerced but wasn't physically forced into going along with everything doesn't mean that it wasn't forced.
No that’s just the way he is portraying it. He’s not only a man but he lives in America. He calls it arranged marriage but...how was it? He dated as long as he wanted and when he decided to get married he had choices and got to look around. That’s what everyone does, we don’t call it arranged marriage. Just because your mommy was involved doesn’t make it an arranged marriage. Just because you’re Indian doesn’t make it an arranged marriage. In most cases your family picks for you. Ofcourse there is always a “choice” but that’s like me telling you....you have to marry someone and if you chose not to your family will hang you. For most people being disowned by the family is like dying. That’s not a choice. It’s illusion of choice. But still...what that guy did was date people like everyone else does and labeled it arranged.
if arrange marriages were done right like this man presented then no one would oppose it, sadly its misused and turned into forced marriages that is why i personally dont like it!
yo, thats a different matter tho, an arranged marriage is not a forced marriage as they are two different things. some can pretend it is but it still aint. as you said it is 'misused' aka wrongly used meaning its not that.
It's actually not rare, if you look into the rural areas many cases can be seen also many arranged marriages have situations where parents coerce the kids emotionally blackmailing them. The reason could be anything for the kids not wanting to marry but the concept of 'log kya kahenge' or having been betrothed at early years create these situations. It gives no option to the kids of their choice. This prevails strongly in the desi or as where I'm from Pakistani society. But that said it's not like that's how EVERY marriage works, there's also good where there's. Just wanting to say that arrange marriages are rarely as this Ted presenter portrayed, in the mildest cases even if everyone's okay with arrange marriages there's restriction on speaking or getting to know you soon to be spouse and if God forbid the engagement breaks off it becomes really difficult for the girl mostly as people assume she must have been super friendly with her fiance hence she's not suitable for our family or son. Like I said the case here at the Ted talk is very exceptional and beautiful and should always be like this, with freedom and liberty to choose.
If arrange marriages were all done like this then that's perfect. Sadly, in many cultures arrange marriage means the girl gets to marry the guy without having a discussion. Some don't even see their partner until the wedding day, and it's so sad. I wish more people would look at arrange marriages the way this guy does. And congrats btw!
It depends on the culture. His story is how most indian arranged marriages go. The female being forced is mostly the way it is with muslim arranged marriages. With Indian Muslims it could go either way depending on the family.
I've barely seen any forced marriages, and infact only a minor witnessing marriages turned out to be loved marriages as I grew a bit outta my age- only learning so late. The point is arranged marriages may sound scary but they arent, the couple hangsout and talks almost months before the marriage.
Arranged into love marriages are best. A little clean datting should not be frowned upon. Let the soles meet, true love can't happen on superficial things.
Damn I know I’m late but is it actually sometimes nice to marry someone you haven’t dated? Obviously it wouldn’t work for everyone but it seems kinda cool
In Saudi most marriage proposals happen in a wedding, a mother likes a certain girl then go all CIA investigations until they get her mother’s number then the journey begins 😀
Exactly , then after the girl's agreement they arrange a date to see each other and after they agree on each other , marrige happens , otherwise ( if someone didn't like the other ) the prposal cancelled ..
I found my love through arrange marriage... ❤️.. Now it becomes an arranged come love marriage.. And we are gonna marry on April 2020..thank God.. Please shower with blessings.. Please be with us.. Always make us to love each other..
I think arranged marriages happen in Western culture too, we just don't call them "arranged marriages". But often a friend says: "hey, I know this guy. It seems very kind and he is single. Can I give him your number so you can talk to him?" When asked "how did you meet your spouse?", many people reply "through a family member or mutual friends". Now is that not an arranged marriage?
No? If I introduce my friend to someone else I don’t want to make them marry the other person. Idc if they get married or break up. Most people nowadays don’t even get married.
No it's not arranged,mutual friends introduce you to a single person& the 2 singles go out on dates, and if they click exclusively date for a time period 3-12 months. they aren't any obligations ..but as the relationship progresses& both see themselves compatible marriage plans. By then they introduce each other to respective families,attend social functions.. an engagement ring is offered to the girl & 6 months time she gets married. Parents have little input in your choice of partner, however they can advise or voice an opinion. Otherwise you make your own bed & lie in it..You are 100% accountable for the success or failure of your marriage. However if mutually introduced people don't click after going out on several dates,they dump each other as they know they aren't compatible with each other.😂When you marry you know exactly what u are getting into😀. Traditionally arranged marriage has no dating involved, family is in it .boy will campaign that he's good loving,and girl's parents song praises. however when 2 get married reality sets it& true colours are revealed both parties. You aren't expected to jump of that ship.
Not really, friends who just casually set up two friends on a date has pretty much nothing to do with arranged marrages. They dont really care if they get married or not, arranged marrages are picked out with the specific goal in mind for them to get married. Also, arranged marrages are 100% already a thing in western culture, its just not as talked about.
I'm okay with arranged marriage as long as I like him and there's an initial attraction at first sight. Love won't come instantly, it just depends on how much effort you put to make it work because love will just come the moment you accept and understand one's personality.
Watching this as my heart breaks into million pieces because the love of my life is getting married and I realized that he will have a good life, but not with me. "I am happy for you baba. Knowing that you will have a good life ahead of you, is more than enough. I will always cherish you in my heart. "
I hope you stay happy too and get your happy ending ❤ we cant make people stay, but perhaps someone else will come who will appreciate you more ❤ please have faith
My marriage was arranged not forced, its been almost 8yrs of marriage 3 beautiful kids, our home and are more in love with each other by passing day ❤️ 💕 Arrange marriages works just like love marriages 💑
My grandmother arranged my mom to marry my dad. Every time that my mom was mad at my dad, she would blame it on grandma. On the other hand my dad didn't have anybody to blame on but himself.
My only problem is that, this isn't how it's done in most families. My parents still want me to go infront of every family that visits to see me as a potential partner for their son, whom btw, they don't even bring along! Like if the mom and sis of that guy approve then they think of getting me in contact with the guy. Now how screwed up is that? And it becomes even more annoying when i am truly not ready for marriage and my parents want me to 'just consider' every family that shows up. It's emotionally traumatic and frankly quite insulting. I mean how can you force yourself even into thinking of something you are least interested in? This is why the divorce rate in south east asia is increasing. Omar had it just fine. The guy and the girl met BEFORE the families did and had full choice to accept or decline. So yeah, let's just say that's an easy peasy version of an arranged marriage.
I'm proud to say I have had an arranged marriage and it has been blessed... I love my husband and he loves me.... We have been through a lot challenges but we support and learn each other everyday... Any marriage needs work and loyalty
Melbie Dumag There is a diff b/w arranged and love marriage. Like he got to meet, see and choice by himself. that's arranged. But some people don't have the choice to choose. that's forced not arranged.
By far the most touching comment I have received yet here on TH-cam- Thank You Chris. Your simple but poignant comment touched my heart.Thank You for your exceptional singing of Shai's special song at my wedding.
So did I. On July 8th last year, and like your matchmaker says, matches are made in heaven. I would have never found him with my own efforts, but God almighty got us together.
@@lunasworld4077 22 yrs my parents they didn't even know each other but agreed to marrying each other 22 yrs ago, my aunty who got love marriage sometimes jealous of my mom and dad, for some love dies after marriage
okay, I need to say this , before watching this video I strongly disregarded arrange marriages but now I'm more open to the idea of having arrange marriage! Thank you sir !!
I love arranged marriages. Especially when the people involved have not found someone on there own. Why not give someone a helping hand to find happiness with a partner.
Got to talk to Omar personally, just for a few minutes, but what a pleasure it was! Such a well spoken, kind human and I look forward to speaking to him again!
Met him and his wife at my restaurant in the short time we were around each other they began to teach me things about there culture and way of life. Awesome family 👨👩👧
What a way to tell a love story! Thoroughly enjoyed listening to him.. Especially the part about struggling to get a flight to meet her. It could have been easily seen as a bad omen, but instead he took it up as a challenge and made it. Wow!
Me and my family are not super into arranged marriages, but I can understand the appeal. After years of getting my heartbroken my dad finally said, “Hey this guy really likes you, he’s hard-working and will treat you right, you should give him a chance”. After two years, I finally just decided to talk to him to see where it would lead, and now, I’m in the best relationship I’ve ever been in. Thanks dad!
In this case both bride and groom liked each other which is good. In many cases the bride and groom don't like each for various reasons, looks, no common ground, money, wrong career, no career, visa issues, language barriers, health issues or other issues and parental pressure makes them marry.
I liked this talk a lot! I always used to think I was open minded and that what I learned in school always had an objective background. I only just realized , while watching this video, how wrong I was. What I was taught were little scenarios, the rare cases of really unhappy arranged marriages. In my culture arranged marriages are also common and I do think that they are great. You are not being forced into something you don't want. People choosing your 'partner' are the ones that are closest to you and know you the BEST and eventually they find a really great match! Thank you for sharing your story
I jumped from my seat when Omar mentioned Hyderabad city (of India), happy for a fellow hyderabadi's Ted talk. And Well done for putting light to Arranged Marriages in US which if done right will be successful one, Because its a union of 2 families and not just 2 humans, so its important that both families and in sync with each other at least in few things that are important for them. happy families is what America needs more than anything...
Most arranged marriages "work" because the woman in the marriage compromises so much. And what happens if they leave? A divorced woman? How shameful for the family. The woman is there to serve her husband.ya no wonder arranged marriages "work so well"
@@jacobspeeds i agree that any girl or woman should care about herself just as a man should but after marriage u have to care about ur wife/husband and kids (but in no way it means she or he should bear torture or any kind off things of that sort)
I Seriously thought this scenario was online dating. Am I the only one who thought that? This wasn't arranged or anything like that, Just a desire for a mom who wanted her son to get married. This man went to an online dating site and found a woman, got to know her via email/ chatting etc., met in person and decided he wanted to marry her. Got consent from the families and the rest is history
pearl smith uh... That's how arranged marriages work. Before the websites existed, it was a marriage bureau instead. That's all. I think like most people, you're confused between arranged and forced marriages.
Based on this, I think that both arranged marriages and "love" marriages are more similar than not- just in one the onus on finding the right person is on you and in the other it's on your family/matchmaker. Both have the potential to end in disaster but also to find the love of your life. I don't think it matters how you find the right person as long as they're right for you- I've found that person myself and I'm glad you did too!
I’m 25, going on 26 at the end of this year. Once I’m settled in my career I think I would go to a match maker if I haven’t met anyone yet. I’m not Asian or from a cultural background where this is common practice but I’ve tried online dating and in person and both to no avail. With a matchmaker, you know you’re both serious enough to go through that channel and to me, that’s one step down already. Yes I know that I’m young and I’m not saying I want to be married tomorrow, I want to start my career first, have good savings and get my own property before I think about marriage, but once I do that I’d like to enjoy me time with someone where we’re headed towards something serious.
It's literally in the definition of the word ar·ranged mar·riage əˈrānjd ˈmerij/Submit noun a marriage planned and agreed to by the families or guardians of the bride and groom, *who have little or no say in the matter themselves.*
@@SubjectULTIMA that's not how it works. The parents arrange the partners and the choice is given. I was given a choice and have declined three times already.
I’m SORRY but I’m still NOT in the favour of “arranged marriages”. This guy is really lucky and an exception if he’s found the RIGHT person or the person of his dreams through arranged marriage. But everyone’s not that lucky. It’s really very very important to know a person as much as you can before committing your whole life to them. A human mind is a complexed one and cannot be understood over a tea or coffee table or a set up. BUT by this I do NOT mean that in love marriages you can definitely know the person to be that right one. Like I said.. human mind is a complexed one. There are so many love marriages too that fail. But here the point is actually not love or arranged. It’s about knowing the person well so that you don’t regret later. But yes.. there are still chances of the person changing to completely an opposite one a few months or years later than what he/she was before the marriage. Life is anyway full of surprises. So anything can happen. But atleast you don’t curse yourself or anybody else of not knowing and understanding the person before marrying them if at all later your marriage dosent goes well.
Look the girl could say no! I have no issue. My friends introduced me to my husband. This is not that different really. I have an issue when one of the parties involved, the man or woman, cannot say no and has to get married. I mean.... I know people born and raised in France who consult an agency to find someone compatible. Given the limited time everyone has, a match-maker may help. They also talked and met and everything. Not really the forced arranged marriage we all have in mind.
How does only being together a few months constitute a marriage? Tell me again when the honeymoon period is over. Then let your wife give her opinion. Then I might believe you.
Love isn’t random tho. It’s a very conscientious choice. If two ppl meet by chance, and choose to form a relationship, then all the best. If they choose not to, then all the best as well. If two ppl whom are arranged to meet choose to form a relationship or not, then the same applies.
We need to understand that when people use the word forced marriage. Its not the marriage on gun point. In an typical middle class indian family a force marriage is 1. Start showing you pics to aunties ever since you turn 23 , asking them help to find a perfect groom. 2. Emotionally blackmailing you to get married for the sake of society, age, parents falling health. 3. Because all your cousins are getting married. 4. Because if you marry after 30 you will not get a guy or you wont be able to conceive. ( in case of girls) So you are given option to choose from a wide variety of girls or guys. So it kind of becomes not a forced marriage. But the mental and social pressure given from age of 25 .. So much that the only way to get your peace with family is to get married, so that this marriage chapter is closed. The mental and emotional pressure is force. The blackmail that society wont accept you if you are not married in right age is force. Its never dragging you to mandap..
So did my mother and father.. They both fell in love even before their marriage in the process of arranged marriage.. now they both have been together for 25+ years and trust me.. The romance, friendship, trust, commitment, and happiness they have between them is just so beautiful! 💙 P.S- I'm from India.
Arranged marriages as described are okay. They are like blind dating. But the version I know. Is that the man and woman follow their parents standards and look for good profiles not good people that they can have conversations with. And this is why I hate arranged marriages in my culture.
You can say no to your parent if you don't like him. If they force that becomes force marriage. So there is lot of difference between force marriage and arranged marriage. In love marriage you will find your spouse While in arranged marriage parent will find for you. If they force to marry him that is force marriage.
wait.... leaving aside the cheesy cuteness of his story, I watched almost the entire video, just to find out in min 13:00 that he has just married? How can he be qualify to speak about arrange marriages if he can't elaborate about the product of them. I mean, what people want to know is if its a sensible way to commit to someone for life, base on the satisfaction rate of married couples. 2 months married implies they barely came from their honeymoon, they are in no position to assess if they made the right choice?!
*THEY WERE ENGAGED FOR A YR. watch it again. Of course he's qualified. Hes not here to preach the pros n cons of arranged marriage he is saying it worked for him and BE OPEN MINDED*
If you want numbers, look at the divorce rate in the east vs west. As simple as that. If you say, hey they are forced to stay with each other then go find some of those old couple and check how it looks. It looks fine. It's a matter of perspective. I won't want it for myself, but I understand some do. Even being weird about meeting during wedding for the first time, still better than one night stand, no ? Again don't want it for myself, but I am living my own life and they are living their own. People's obsession and strange remarks about arranged marriage is ridiculous. Now forced marriage is a different thing. And we shouldn't mix the two.
@@meheem Although I am not against arranged marriages and don't agree that it's synonymous to forced marriages. We have to stop talking about the divorce rate in the east being less. The contributing factor to the lower rate is also that divorce in these societies is a great taboo. And specially for women it will be a humiliating situation. Do majority people who would want divorce, don't actually go for it.. And force themselves to live togather. Just to show off ppl their marriage has worked well.
In most arranged marriages the engagement lasts from 1 to maximum 6 months, with the bride's family often pushing for earlier. Judging by his accent this guy grew up in the west, and what applies to him does not apply to the majority.
This stuff is true. i met love of my life on 6th december, 2020. we got engaged on 10 december, 2020 and got married on 3rd january 2021. we are so love with each other and have devoted our lives to each other.
@@Angell_Lee That's because Life in this world is just a test, their unhappiness is part of Allah plan to test their faith , Death, poverty, sickness , war are also part of the test . Also another reason is many muslim who unhappy were not following the guidance of Qur'an and the way of the prophet in marriage life. And last not all Muslim are not happy most of them are happy go couple in fact it's the other way around many non muslim are having divorce compared to Muslim and most of them are cheating or when to prostitution . According to the data and fact Muslim population is growing fast because of marriage and having a lot of kid. So yes Muslim is very less to have unhappiness accept very very very few of them that we can count by hand and the people are unhappy is just a person who is not following God guidance.
All the arranged marriages in my family have been super successful. Ironically, most of the loved marriages haven't worked. Some of them ended in bitter divorces and the others are where both people live in bitterness and regret. It's horrible. I think one of the reasons why arranged marriages are successful is because you get to discover a person and grow with them. Plus when there's a problem, the families get involved and sort it out. Of course there are arranged marriages that fail. But the ones I've seen are successful and they're happy.
I'm not going to lie, your parents being persistent about something that you're not interested in or blatantly tell them you don't want and they still bother you about it is VERY annoying. My mother asked me so many times for grandchildren. It's not something I want, I ignore her every time she asks.
Sometimes when we grow up, we realize we do things in life that we may not always want to do because the people who loved, supported, and cherished us ask for something. It's the least we can do to show them that their opinion is valuable. When they are dead and gone, you will be able to ignore them forever.
+Chichi Okolo I understand your perception but its kind of a bad thing to "ask for grandchildren". It might be a fulfilling and happy think for her/his parents but the children cannot come randomly. To have children you need to have resources, money, preperation and obviously genuine want. If you dont want a child right now and your mom forces you to have a child because she wants grandchildren then the child may be an unwanted child. Thats not exactly motherly. I dont think anyone in theor right mind will have children just to fulfill her/his mother's wish. You have to have responsibility for the children, its not like you can pop out a child and give it to your mother for a gift.
All I'm saying is that never have children just because someone asks/demands you do it for them. Or, really, any activity. You never asked to be born, so why should they treat you like you demanded existence to be served to you on a silver platter. If you're going to do it, do it for yourself, on your own terms, and you better be prepared to do it.
I agree this is a nice story about your love story and a way arranged marriages would ideally work, but to say “arranged marriage is not a forced marriage” is an oversimplified and utterly naive way to view the subject. Just because the two were not interchangeable in your situation does NOT mean it is not in many other situations. Historically, those who have gotten an arranged marriage did not have any other option - it WAS a forced marriage, the two were synonymous. Additionally, just because it is not explicitly stated as a forced marriage, doesn’t mean that one’s “arranged” marriage does not have all of the pressure and expectation that a forced marriage does. Arranged marriages have the implication that there is no out, if you get married and figure out soon that this won’t work out, you have, unfortunately, much more to consider, that you will dishonor your family. In no way am I condoning these thoughts or attitudes, but I am simply stating that although arranged marriages may not be called forced marriages, they often, not all, times have many of the same pressures as an arranged marriage. You could then talk about, then, that historically people have only had forced marriages...well..yeah that’s very possible and it’s really great that you had a great experience. I would be happy to further discuss this with anyone in a civilized manner.
As a fellow Indian, arranged marriages are how most of my family got together and at least in the last few generations, none of it was forced. In fact, my mom had said no to many guys and actually agreed to marry another guy the day before she met my dad. Once they met, they both were instantly attracted to each other and my mom told her dad (my grandfather) that she wasn't sure what to do. My grandfather told her that he would deal with the other family and made sure that she married the man she wanted. 30 years later, my parents still love each other completely. Even so, not all work out and thankfully my extended family is always supportive of each other. One of my aunts had an arranged marriage that turned out to be abusive in every way. She left him when she got pregnant and moved back in with her parents. Since then, she has married an amazing man who has adopted her daughter and treats her like his own and she suffers no stigma from it (I wasn't even aware of her first marriage until I was a teenager). I am open to having an arranged marriage myself since it's really just introducing two potential partners. I think it really depends on how much the families value their children's feelings on the marriage.
Yeah, I think it's entirely possible for arranged marriages to go well, but they also have great potential to become horrible and abusive. It depends on the people and the family. Even if it is labeled as arranged, does NOT mean it is not forced. "Arranged" is such a vague word that has such a spectrum of definitions. My main problem with this guy's story here is that he took his own story and tried to apply it to the entire concept of arranged marriages and it is laughable how bad this is. Trying to base his entire theory or whatever it is on this one anecdote.
@@OranJJeTofu it is the same for the so called love marriages. You just have to deal with what comes. U can't expect to know how it turns out until u go through it. It's not like u can't just separate if it doesn't work out.
Just because forced marriage exists, it doesn't mean all arranged marriages are forced. Since we can define them separately, why mix them ? It really depends on the family and I am sorry you only got to see the bad side of it. But just because you have seen the forced marriages it doesn't mean the other type doesn't happen. So let's keep them separate and in their place. Arranged marriage doesn't necessarily mean forced. Forced marriage is bad and arranged marriage is where your family helps you meet someone. It's not that complicated.
There is a lot of social pressure on getting married. More pressure on women. Men are at least allowed more time. Maybe there is no physical force involved but a lot of social stigma. I don't like this guy's message. He makes arranged marriage sound funny but ignores that an unmarried woman or a woman without children has to suffer discrimination from society and family. I prefer the western approach and not stigmatize non-traditional lifestyles. Also: men normally don't realize how much more women compromise in traditional marriages. Often because a divorce is harder for them than for men. Divorced women often loose their children and their reputation. The situation is not as funny as this guy presents it.
Arranged or not, it depends on the woman's family on whether she feels pressured to compromise or not, in fear of divorce and the like. Even a marriage out of love has compromises. All marriages require compromise, and from both parties. You can't really say that just because it was arranged, it requires more compromise. That doesn't really make sense, because compromises are made when both parties want to make the marriage last. There are exceptions of course, but generalizing it based on how both parties met and the circumstances leading up to the marriage seems pretty silly.
@@madeehaghani9138 agreed. Though I understand where OP is coming from I feel it's one side of another extreme. It almost sounds like every women is a victim based on what the original post said (correct me if I'm wrong). The brother made it clear that arranged marriage is not forced marriage (which is true). And based on how he told his story it was pretty comical. To scorn someone who had a wonderful experience and story to tell from a different perspective is just not right. Disguishing the differences and having a broader insight of the issues and situations at hand is what leads to solutions. Not victimizing and generalizing. You may not have a good experience and some people you may know but that doesn't mean e everyone's experience is like that.
ya in my story ... after two months ... of blissful conversations and amazing promises... the guy walks away and I am left still picking up pieces of my shattered heart. But I love the picture in the end. Gives me hope that someday I will feel this affection and love from someone towards me.
I'm getting married in January, tbh when I first started talking to the guy I had it in the back of my head, there was no way I would marry him. A week or so went by of us talking on the phone; bare in mind he lives half way across the world, I tell me mom he seems nice "we have the same goals in life." In April he proposes to me over video chat and I say yes :). I still didn't love him but I knew it would take time, now it is almost September I can honestly say I am in love with him. Being unable to see him in person is not convenient, yet we make it work. I can say my marriage was arranged but I love my fiancé.
lol that's not love...it's just that your time is running out so now you have no option but to love him and that's not real love. You're fooling yourself.
my mom and dad had an arranged marriage (not forced! both my mom and dad were okay with the fact that they're getting married) and now they have 3 kids with me being 14 and my brothers being 7 and 8, they are happily married for over 16 years now and they don't fight and even if they do they talk it out or deal with it like adults and not some bunch of 5-year-olds. and I know they will spend the rest of their life together, till death do them part. I am glad to call myself their daughter!
More than anything, this guy just recreated perhaps enacted the entire episode of his match finding thru storytelling...... Great job man... Very impressive
I'm in my arrange marriage process, the guy also lives in Chicago. We've talked to each other but hasn't made a decision yet. I like the guy and the guy likes me (that's what it looks like) but he has to many things to tell before we make our final decision. He told me some of them which I do find creepy but the good part is he's very honest. He's telling me everything you need to know before you marry someone.
Omar talks about his childhood, learning language, culture and etc is life time process, he seems to be a ''gifted'' as he learned all that at age 5, and moved on...phew! so easy for him. I see him as being very focused and successful person, Asian kids have parents with "Great Expectations" usually they fullfill their parents dreams.
Arranged marriages are said to be very successful and last longer. As divorce rate get higher clearly shows we have no idea what were doing and need help. Who better knows you than you mom? Thank you for the speech. I hope you do more events at FIU.
Maria Fundora Garcell I have to strongly disagree. Prior to romanticise the concept, you first have to define what "success" in a couple is. Arrange marriages can still have a miserable life. If your marriage was a decision took by society, its coherent to assume that you lack the individual power to put an end to it too. The cohesion is enforced by the group and not by the individuals of the couple, insensible to the actual feelings of the couple. So its not that a persons' mother knows him better, is that persons who accept arrange marriages have already been condition by certain mold, and part of that conditioning is reflected in their unwillingness to divorce. There is no direct causality, but casualty!
they last longer because you can't escape as easily. society will look down on abused people or those who want to leave a cheater. Most of these marriages aren't so great. At least divorce is available to those who need it else where
Not true at all. An example: my parents are in an arranged marriage, and they fight every single day. They've done this every day for the past 23 years, yet they are not divorced yet. What does that tell you? BTW, what this guy is describing in the TED talk is NOT an arranged marriage. He's just doing this to not make it look as bad. In real arranged marriages, your parents decide who you marry and you are given little to no say in the matter. There's a lot of coercion involved.
I once said to my Indian friend "So many of your arranged marriages are not happy." His response was "So many of your by choice marriages are not happy either." I had to admit he was right
true, but it's hard to file a divorce when you just got an arraigned marriage, which is not the case with by-choice marriages
It depends. If you have the right kind of family, and the right kind of parents, then it can work. I come from a Bengali background, where arranged marriages are also common. But the difference is that I was taken to a matchmaker when I was 16, not 30. So my parents could evaluate my worth - in their words. It totally depends. Arranged marriages can become forced marriages in just the wrong circumstances.
um well arranged marriages should be just about introducing 2 people around the same age and let them date for a while. if it's just meeting on the wedding night it's so wrong
It did use to be like that - on the wedding day, anyway. It's slowly changing in some parts of the world, but it's not in the distant past in some cultures.
RagnarokLoki2012 I feel sorry for you. I'm Bengali by ethnicity but I'm not in that process until after 2021. I would be 25 then and Insha Allah I'll have a husband that is meant for me one day.
"Arranged marriages are not forced marriages" that line made this video worth watch.
What is the dividing line between arranged and forced? Force is a rather vague word that embraces a range of possibilities from coercion and pressure tactics to blackmail to full on physical force. Using a cycle of shame and guilt or instilling a taboo to act against your parents wishes is a form of coercion that just might qualify as force.
If you think that every "arranged" marriage received perfect consent by the respective couples then I have some swamp land to sell you.
Definitely. The couple always had a choice to agree to marry or not. Someone arranged for Meghan to meet Prince Harry. India mostly has arranged marriages, whereas Middle East mostly has forced marriages.
Cristie A.. Try to look on the internet the majority of forced marriages is in India/Pakistan/Bangladesh also other African countries and south of America as well. In the middle east there is indeed but it’s more in India and Pakistan because of the population.
Cristie A Claiming that most marriages in the Middle East are forced marriages is utter nonsense! Who made you an expert of MD culture?
what if a girl is not allowed to have a boyfriend?
In this world of Tinder, I'm starting to believe in arranged marriages.
Some One what is tinder?
arranged marriages are just tinder in the olden times
@The Elite Killa I think your sister's marriage isn't the type of arranged marriage that people're talking about. The arranged marriage has involvement of family members: parents and grandparents. They'll look through the girl/man's background, consider if he/she's suitable with their conditions. If yes, 2 families will talk first, then arrange a meeting for the couple. Sometimes, the couple first met has their family's presence too. In your sister's case, it's just like a good friend introduce a good guy for her friend, there's no family's involvement at the first step.
YOU TOO!? I am a father with a daughter who though people on TINDER were genuine men.... she found out how FALSE that was! - I get to say, "I TOLD YOU SO!" LOL!
Tinder's for hookups only. And dating is bull. If you fall in love naturally that's fine. Or else, just get an arranged marriage.
people normally get confused between arranged marriage and forced marriage
Nuzhat Nadiya lo yes
nop its the same
Love marriages are not doing any better in Western culture.
My father is forcing me so i guess im in a forced marriage since they didn't ask for my permission before saying yes
@xTatlTaelx my mother is emotionally blackmailing me that how ur father and 1 raised u and now ur so rude and stuff
Arrange marriage is allowed.
Force marriage is not.
Simple.
not in practice where arranged is in fact forced, with more or less (social, psychological) pressure.
isn't it the same, particularly for the women?
ok
That's right. There is a difference between arranged marriage and forced marriage.
Thank you for sharing your story.
This person was my chess teacher for a year. He really is a good man and it’s awesome seeing him in a big ted talk. He also now has a daughter for anyone wondering.
I was just wondering about an update since the video is 6 years old. ❤️
It's always Aunt Faatima.
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My parents had an arranged marriage and 46 years later are more in love then any other couple I know. They are each other's best friend.
Thats great! Unfortunately it doesnt go that good for everybody. My parents are not the happiest couple ever. They have been married for 33 years. They obviously deal with each other. They wont get divorced or anything but they arent really the happiest of couple ya know :)
Its all luck...not everyone is lucky
Mine are both as weird as eachother and I guess that's why they actually work.I just hope I find someone who through all of life who don't want to let me go.
Same
Good for them! It's 2018!
"You have to know the right person first before you find the right love." Inspired.
Morsheda Ahmed 😂😂
Hey sugaaaa
Agreed clean dating should not be frowned upon. You gotta know each other whome you are marrying not only family history and stability. To make all the process less stressful. Walking blind is scary let alone on a new road and it's a matter of your whole life.
Once i got the advise to have long "conversations" in any situation with the prince of my heart, even if he, as a person was fantasy at that time, this will make it easier to recognize him once he crosses my way - and it worked. While "talking" to him I got to know the man I wanted to have, so when we met real life, it was a very easy decision.
@@agnes15101968 this is such good advice and so sweet!
Randomly met Omar in a restaurant parking lot. He is such an intriguing guy! Great talk, Omar! You are so full of life!
Thank You Mrs. Cheryl Dwyer-Such a Heartfelt comment, but it was not random- " It was FATE that brought us together at that special restaurant" Your crew was pretty intriguing as well- give them my greetings&Thanks Again.
Hey Omar,
Great story! Thanks for sharing. BTW I met you at MIA airport on a Sunday
Omar Durrani can u shoutout to me
Mk9 is a happy ending up with your baby brother made this he's a it was in the room to be an animator on on
people still confuse arranged marriages with forced marriages. we have our friends setting us up for blind dates and these are no different. if you like each other you continue and if you don't you say goodbye to each other.
YnnyY&nne OilRyser No arranged marriage is forced? I’m sorry what? What about all the women who get married off to a random guy their family chooses for them? They aren’t given the right to choose, if they refuse they are deemed as dishonorable. If that’s not called “force” i don’t know what is.
NISHAT lala as long as there is no threat of violence from her parents and/or spouse or otherwise, there is no force going on. Forced marriages are only a thing if there are such threats present. THAT is bad.
@@WomenofHighValue I appreciate your explanation
So pretty much arranged marriages are just like skipping the dating step but there still is choice
Alisha Shahab especially for girls
in a perfect world, there is a choice. The line between arranged and forced marriage is very blurry, and absolutely not as clear cut as this guy put it. It's great he had a positive experience, but just because someone felt extreme pressure/was coerced but wasn't physically forced into going along with everything doesn't mean that it wasn't forced.
Alisha Shahab yup
No that’s just the way he is portraying it. He’s not only a man but he lives in America. He calls it arranged marriage but...how was it? He dated as long as he wanted and when he decided to get married he had choices and got to look around. That’s what everyone does, we don’t call it arranged marriage. Just because your mommy was involved doesn’t make it an arranged marriage. Just because you’re Indian doesn’t make it an arranged marriage. In most cases your family picks for you. Ofcourse there is always a “choice” but that’s like me telling you....you have to marry someone and if you chose not to your family will hang you. For most people being disowned by the family is like dying. That’s not a choice. It’s illusion of choice. But still...what that guy did was date people like everyone else does and labeled it arranged.
Yea until it becomes a forced one when you meet the guy and still don’t feel like you connect with them but still have to marry them
if arrange marriages were done right like this man presented then no one would oppose it, sadly its misused and turned into forced marriages that is why i personally dont like it!
Not always the case.
yo, thats a different matter tho, an arranged marriage is not a forced marriage as they are two different things. some can pretend it is but it still aint. as you said it is 'misused' aka wrongly used meaning its not that.
jungkookie monster exactly which is sad very sad on a sidenote i notice a fellow army 😄
It's actually not rare, if you look into the rural areas many cases can be seen also many arranged marriages have situations where parents coerce the kids emotionally blackmailing them. The reason could be anything for the kids not wanting to marry but the concept of 'log kya kahenge' or having been betrothed at early years create these situations. It gives no option to the kids of their choice. This prevails strongly in the desi or as where I'm from Pakistani society. But that said it's not like that's how EVERY marriage works, there's also good where there's. Just wanting to say that arrange marriages are rarely as this Ted presenter portrayed, in the mildest cases even if everyone's okay with arrange marriages there's restriction on speaking or getting to know you soon to be spouse and if God forbid the engagement breaks off it becomes really difficult for the girl mostly as people assume she must have been super friendly with her fiance hence she's not suitable for our family or son. Like I said the case here at the Ted talk is very exceptional and beautiful and should always be like this, with freedom and liberty to choose.
haha army's are everywhere lol
If arrange marriages were all done like this then that's perfect. Sadly, in many cultures arrange marriage means the girl gets to marry the guy without having a discussion. Some don't even see their partner until the wedding day, and it's so sad. I wish more people would look at arrange marriages the way this guy does. And congrats btw!
I agree with you but that's not arrange marriage that's force marriage x
Force marriage is the new arrange marriage:(
Not all arrange marriages are force marriages.
It depends on the culture. His story is how most indian arranged marriages go. The female being forced is mostly the way it is with muslim arranged marriages. With Indian Muslims it could go either way depending on the family.
I've barely seen any forced marriages, and infact only a minor witnessing marriages turned out to be loved marriages as I grew a bit outta my age- only learning so late. The point is arranged marriages may sound scary but they arent, the couple hangsout and talks almost months before the marriage.
Fairytales do come true. But not everyone is as lucky as you were with arranged marriages.
candyflossss14 ,very true , didn't work for me, but I'm glad that it works for Omar and his wife. I'm happy for them.
can be said about any marriage, arranged or otherwise.
candyflossss14 but not everyone is gonna be happy in love marriage
It works for a lot.
If Islamic rulings are followed including courtship, it works.
Arranged into love marriages are best. A little clean datting should not be frowned upon. Let the soles meet, true love can't happen on superficial things.
white people: how can you marry a man who don't know?
desi: how can you marry a man you KNOW
This comment is so underrated xD
Hahahahaha
Damn I know I’m late but is it actually sometimes nice to marry someone you haven’t dated? Obviously it wouldn’t work for everyone but it seems kinda cool
@@NyanHomeschoolGirl17 Oh yeah. I married a stranger.
Uneeza desi people are also changing their mindset, they've also started to know the person they supposed to get merry with.
I had an arranged marriage and we are in our 18th year, happy and more in love. God is good!
In Saudi most marriage proposals happen in a wedding, a mother likes a certain girl then go all CIA investigations until they get her mother’s number then the journey begins 😀
لا تفضحنا يا ولد 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@lifeisshort4777 😁😁😁
Exactly , then after the girl's agreement they arrange a date to see each other and after they agree on each other , marrige happens , otherwise ( if someone didn't like the other ) the prposal cancelled ..
Same in India😂
Same in Somali.. it is happening to me now lolz
I loved that he explained how it works when it's not extreme. That was beautiful.
I found my love through arrange marriage... ❤️.. Now it becomes an arranged come love marriage.. And we are gonna marry on April 2020..thank God.. Please shower with blessings.. Please be with us.. Always make us to love each other..
Arranged marriages are perfectly fine. People just don't know the difference between arranged and forced marriages.
Best thing about arranged marriage is your gender won't judge you as you don't know her and its a surprise
I think arranged marriages happen in Western culture too, we just don't call them "arranged marriages". But often a friend says: "hey, I know this guy. It seems very kind and he is single. Can I give him your number so you can talk to him?" When asked "how did you meet your spouse?", many people reply "through a family member or mutual friends". Now is that not an arranged marriage?
No? If I introduce my friend to someone else I don’t want to make them marry the other person. Idc if they get married or break up. Most people nowadays don’t even get married.
No it's not!
No it's not arranged,mutual friends introduce you to a single person& the 2 singles go out on dates, and if they click exclusively date for a time period 3-12 months. they aren't any obligations ..but as the relationship progresses& both see themselves compatible marriage plans. By then they introduce each other to respective families,attend social functions.. an engagement ring is offered to the girl & 6 months time she gets married. Parents have little input in your choice of partner, however they can advise or voice an opinion.
Otherwise you make your own bed & lie in it..You are 100% accountable for the success or failure of your marriage.
However if mutually introduced people don't click after going out on several dates,they dump each other as they know they aren't compatible with each other.😂When you marry you know exactly what u are getting into😀.
Traditionally arranged marriage has no dating involved, family is in it .boy will campaign that he's good loving,and girl's parents song praises. however when 2 get married reality sets it& true colours are revealed both parties. You aren't expected to jump of that ship.
very very well explained!!
Not really, friends who just casually set up two friends on a date has pretty much nothing to do with arranged marrages. They dont really care if they get married or not, arranged marrages are picked out with the specific goal in mind for them to get married. Also, arranged marrages are 100% already a thing in western culture, its just not as talked about.
I'm okay with arranged marriage as long as I like him and there's an initial attraction at first sight. Love won't come instantly, it just depends on how much effort you put to make it work because love will just come the moment you accept and understand one's personality.
Watching this as my heart breaks into million pieces because the love of my life is getting married and I realized that he will have a good life, but not with me. "I am happy for you baba. Knowing that you will have a good life ahead of you, is more than enough. I will always cherish you in my heart. "
I'm so sorry for you 😥
I hope you stay happy too and get your happy ending ❤ we cant make people stay, but perhaps someone else will come who will appreciate you more ❤ please have faith
My marriage was arranged not forced, its been almost 8yrs of marriage 3 beautiful kids, our home and are more in love with each other by passing day ❤️ 💕 Arrange marriages works just like love marriages 💑
My grandmother arranged my mom to marry my dad. Every time that my mom was mad at my dad, she would blame it on grandma. On the other hand my dad didn't have anybody to blame on but himself.
Oh poor husband.
yen nguyen 😆😆
Poor dad.
Lol, that's funny
My only problem is that, this isn't how it's done in most families. My parents still want me to go infront of every family that visits to see me as a potential partner for their son, whom btw, they don't even bring along! Like if the mom and sis of that guy approve then they think of getting me in contact with the guy. Now how screwed up is that? And it becomes even more annoying when i am truly not ready for marriage and my parents want me to 'just consider' every family that shows up. It's emotionally traumatic and frankly quite insulting. I mean how can you force yourself even into thinking of something you are least interested in? This is why the divorce rate in south east asia is increasing. Omar had it just fine. The guy and the girl met BEFORE the families did and had full choice to accept or decline. So yeah, let's just say that's an easy peasy version of an arranged marriage.
Same for all marriages ..Have tayakkul to Allah
Hey, you are the one who comments on the video about Fighting forced marriages and honor-based abuse.
Love your comment by the way!
Perfectly worded, girl!
Thats how your family is and its not even allowed in Islam
I agree this is a fairy tale like of arrange marriages it should be always like this and its won't have a problem and people can get confused
I'm proud to say I have had an arranged marriage and it has been blessed... I love my husband and he loves me.... We have been through a lot challenges but we support and learn each other everyday... Any marriage needs work and loyalty
Unfortunately not all are happy with forced/arranged marriage..luckily you found your match. Congratulations!
Melbie Dumag There is a diff b/w arranged and love marriage. Like he got to meet, see and choice by himself. that's arranged. But some people don't have the choice to choose. that's forced not arranged.
Melbie Dumag arrange marriage is like dating but your parents introduced you to your partner
Arranged -> a friend or matchmaker sets you up and you have the option to reject
Forced -> same thing but you don't have an option to reject
@@randomstuff8027 dating with no sleeping with each other..
I'm very proud to see you speak from your heart. You finally got to shine while being yourself and following your dreams!
By far the most touching comment I have received yet here on TH-cam- Thank You Chris. Your simple but poignant comment touched my heart.Thank You for your exceptional singing of Shai's special song at my wedding.
So did I. On July 8th last year, and like your matchmaker says, matches are made in heaven. I would have never found him with my own efforts, but God almighty got us together.
I found love in an arranged marriage we’re going 11 years strong
U r fortunate. Thank God for it
My parents too
@@lunasworld4077 22 yrs my parents they didn't even know each other but agreed to marrying each other 22 yrs ago, my aunty who got love marriage sometimes jealous of my mom and dad, for some love dies after marriage
Hey Omar awesome to meet you at the masjid. excellent video thanks for recommending this video!
okay, I need to say this , before watching this video I strongly disregarded arrange marriages but now I'm more open to the idea of having arrange marriage! Thank you sir !!
nah .don't. trust me, don't drag yourself into this mess
Marry me.
I love arranged marriages. Especially when the people involved have not found someone on there own. Why not give someone a helping hand to find happiness with a partner.
@@beatinghearts9404 still more successful than love before marriage, you have like 20 bodies before u find the right person or ever
To make sure he has found happiness he should make this talk years later
Got to talk to Omar personally, just for a few minutes, but what a pleasure it was! Such a well spoken, kind human and I look forward to speaking to him again!
Met him and his wife at my restaurant in the short time we were around each other they began to teach me things about there culture and way of life. Awesome family 👨👩👧
What a way to tell a love story! Thoroughly enjoyed listening to him.. Especially the part about struggling to get a flight to meet her. It could have been easily seen as a bad omen, but instead he took it up as a challenge and made it. Wow!
Your speaking skill and delivery of your speech is very well structured. Nice job!
Me and my family are not super into arranged marriages, but I can understand the appeal. After years of getting my heartbroken my dad finally said, “Hey this guy really likes you, he’s hard-working and will treat you right, you should give him a chance”. After two years, I finally just decided to talk to him to see where it would lead, and now, I’m in the best relationship I’ve ever been in. Thanks dad!
In this case both bride and groom liked each other which is good.
In many cases the bride and groom don't like each for various reasons, looks, no common ground, money, wrong career, no career, visa issues, language barriers, health issues or other issues and parental pressure makes them marry.
I found my true love behind an arraged marriage too :) we are so happy and love each other so much ♥️
My parents are married from 25 years now and I've never seen anyone more in love with each other than 'em till this day
I liked this talk a lot! I always used to think I was open minded and that what I learned in school always had an objective background. I only just realized , while watching this video, how wrong I was. What I was taught were little scenarios, the rare cases of really unhappy arranged marriages. In my culture arranged marriages are also common and I do think that they are great. You are not being forced into something you don't want. People choosing your 'partner' are the ones that are closest to you and know you the BEST and eventually they find a really great match! Thank you for sharing your story
let God bring that special person into your life. Just wait for it.
i was a arrange marrage person and i found the meaning of true love after i meet him.. he became my world..
I jumped from my seat when Omar mentioned Hyderabad city (of India), happy for a fellow hyderabadi's Ted talk. And Well done for putting light to Arranged Marriages in US which if done right will be successful one, Because its a union of 2 families and not just 2 humans, so its important that both families and in sync with each other at least in few things that are important for them. happy families is what America needs more than anything...
This sounds like a match-making not a forced marriage.
which is arranged marriage
the title say it all.
Itzel Direm that's how proper arranged marriages work
He never said it was forced
Most arranged marriages "work" because the woman in the marriage compromises so much. And what happens if they leave? A divorced woman? How shameful for the family. The woman is there to serve her husband.ya no wonder arranged marriages "work so well"
What's wrong with serving at home or at the job site for your mate?
No girl should care about anyone but herself. It's her life, she's got to live for herself and get out of a marriage if she isn't happy.
@@jacobspeeds how do you know she's not happy?
@@aedaldaniel who isn't happy? I'm not talking about a particular girl.
@@jacobspeeds i agree that any girl or woman should care about herself just as a man should but after marriage u have to care about ur wife/husband and kids (but in no way it means she or he should bear torture or any kind off things of that sort)
I Seriously thought this scenario was online dating. Am I the only one who thought that? This wasn't arranged or anything like that, Just a desire for a mom who wanted her son to get married. This man went to an online dating site and found a woman, got to know her via email/ chatting etc., met in person and decided he wanted to marry her. Got consent from the families and the rest is history
pearl smith uh... That's how arranged marriages work. Before the websites existed, it was a marriage bureau instead. That's all. I think like most people, you're confused between arranged and forced marriages.
Based on this, I think that both arranged marriages and "love" marriages are more similar than not- just in one the onus on finding the right person is on you and in the other it's on your family/matchmaker. Both have the potential to end in disaster but also to find the love of your life. I don't think it matters how you find the right person as long as they're right for you- I've found that person myself and I'm glad you did too!
I met Omar at work, his really cool and down to earth.
Only if all arranged marriages had happy endings
arrange marriages =/= force marriages
Only if all marriages had happy endings
lol my grandparents have been happily married for 57 years, so I guess that's living proof they do
Neither does all love marriages have happy endings.
I have seen many love marraiges end badly and arrange marraige with happiness and no endings...
I’m 25, going on 26 at the end of this year. Once I’m settled in my career I think I would go to a match maker if I haven’t met anyone yet. I’m not Asian or from a cultural background where this is common practice but I’ve tried online dating and in person and both to no avail. With a matchmaker, you know you’re both serious enough to go through that channel and to me, that’s one step down already. Yes I know that I’m young and I’m not saying I want to be married tomorrow, I want to start my career first, have good savings and get my own property before I think about marriage, but once I do that I’d like to enjoy me time with someone where we’re headed towards something serious.
Generally HOPE leads to disappointment.
How would you find one?
What difference it makes? U would meet someone &it clicks while u might have a girlfriend for so long & never think taking it to the next level
People confuse arranged marriages with forced marriages
this was neither
It's literally in the definition of the word
ar·ranged mar·riage
əˈrānjd ˈmerij/Submit
noun
a marriage planned and agreed to by the families or guardians of the bride and groom, *who have little or no say in the matter themselves.*
@@SubjectULTIMA that's not how it works. The parents arrange the partners and the choice is given. I was given a choice and have declined three times already.
Recently got arranged with someone, whom am I thinking day in and day out. I am starting loving her .
In sha Allah your marriage and life will be a great success
@@fahoodie1852 she is with me now. Am married.. Thanks
@@Mantim12458 alhamdoulilah
Yes...indian here. My both grandparents did arranged marriage and my father and mother had too, such a beautiful union,you won't believe
I’m SORRY but I’m still NOT in the favour of “arranged marriages”. This guy is really lucky and an exception if he’s found the RIGHT person or the person of his dreams through arranged marriage. But everyone’s not that lucky. It’s really very very important to know a person as much as you can before committing your whole life to them. A human mind is a complexed one and cannot be understood over a tea or coffee table or a set up. BUT by this I do NOT mean that in love marriages you can definitely know the person to be that right one. Like I said.. human mind is a complexed one. There are so many love marriages too that fail. But here the point is actually not love or arranged. It’s about knowing the person well so that you don’t regret later. But yes.. there are still chances of the person changing to completely an opposite one a few months or years later than what he/she was before the marriage. Life is anyway full of surprises. So anything can happen. But atleast you don’t curse yourself or anybody else of not knowing and understanding the person before marrying them if at all later your marriage dosent goes well.
This comment is so underratted
Buhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha😂😂😂
Hahahahahah
Look the girl could say no! I have no issue. My friends introduced me to my husband. This is not that different really. I have an issue when one of the parties involved, the man or woman, cannot say no and has to get married. I mean.... I know people born and raised in France who consult an agency to find someone compatible. Given the limited time everyone has, a match-maker may help. They also talked and met and everything. Not really the forced arranged marriage we all have in mind.
Arranged marriage is ridiculously underrated.
I'm a teenager and I stand for arrange marriage and I support it from depth of my heart
Love from USA
Same
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I'm a man who likes to make my own decisions regardless if they're good or bad.....And who I choose to spend my life with is one of the main one
How does only being together a few months constitute a marriage? Tell me again when the honeymoon period is over. Then let your wife give her opinion. Then I might believe you.
I'd like to hear the wife's side as well. Some years down the road
First comes the right the person, then the love comes afterwards. I think holds very true in most circumstances!
Love isn’t random tho. It’s a very conscientious choice. If two ppl meet by chance, and choose to form a relationship, then all the best. If they choose not to, then all the best as well. If two ppl whom are arranged to meet choose to form a relationship or not, then the same applies.
We need to understand that when people use the word forced marriage. Its not the marriage on gun point. In an typical middle class indian family a force marriage is 1. Start showing you pics to aunties ever since you turn 23 , asking them help to find a perfect groom.
2. Emotionally blackmailing you to get married for the sake of society, age, parents falling health.
3. Because all your cousins are getting married.
4. Because if you marry after 30 you will not get a guy or you wont be able to conceive. ( in case of girls)
So you are given option to choose from a wide variety of girls or guys. So it kind of becomes not a forced marriage. But the mental and social pressure given from age of 25 .. So much that the only way to get your peace with family is to get married, so that this marriage chapter is closed. The mental and emotional pressure is force. The blackmail that society wont accept you if you are not married in right age is force. Its never dragging you to mandap..
So did my mother and father.. They both fell in love even before their marriage in the process of arranged marriage.. now they both have been together for 25+ years and trust me.. The romance, friendship, trust, commitment, and happiness they have between them is just so beautiful! 💙
P.S- I'm from India.
Arranged marriages as described are okay. They are like blind dating. But the version I know. Is that the man and woman follow their parents standards and look for good profiles not good people that they can have conversations with.
And this is why I hate arranged marriages in my culture.
You can say no to your parent if you don't like him. If they force that becomes force marriage. So there is lot of difference between force marriage and arranged marriage. In love marriage you will find your spouse While in arranged marriage parent will find for you. If they force to marry him that is force marriage.
As long as these marriages are mutually agreed upon And both parties are adults!!
Not all arranged marriages are forced marriage. But all the forced marriages are arranged marriage.
Then why not change the name then and make it also love marriage lol
wait.... leaving aside the cheesy cuteness of his story, I watched almost the entire video, just to find out in min 13:00 that he has just married? How can he be qualify to speak about arrange marriages if he can't elaborate about the product of them. I mean, what people want to know is if its a sensible way to commit to someone for life, base on the satisfaction rate of married couples. 2 months married implies they barely came from their honeymoon, they are in no position to assess if they made the right choice?!
My thoughts exactly tho i'm coming across this a year later.
*THEY WERE ENGAGED FOR A YR. watch it again. Of course he's qualified. Hes not here to preach the pros n cons of arranged marriage he is saying it worked for him and BE OPEN MINDED*
If you want numbers, look at the divorce rate in the east vs west. As simple as that. If you say, hey they are forced to stay with each other then go find some of those old couple and check how it looks. It looks fine. It's a matter of perspective.
I won't want it for myself, but I understand some do. Even being weird about meeting during wedding for the first time, still better than one night stand, no ? Again don't want it for myself, but I am living my own life and they are living their own. People's obsession and strange remarks about arranged marriage is ridiculous. Now forced marriage is a different thing. And we shouldn't mix the two.
@@meheem
Although I am not against arranged marriages and don't agree that it's synonymous to forced marriages.
We have to stop talking about the divorce rate in the east being less. The contributing factor to the lower rate is also that divorce in these societies is a great taboo. And specially for women it will be a humiliating situation. Do majority people who would want divorce, don't actually go for it.. And force themselves to live togather. Just to show off ppl their marriage has worked well.
In most arranged marriages the engagement lasts from 1 to maximum 6 months, with the bride's family often pushing for earlier. Judging by his accent this guy grew up in the west, and what applies to him does not apply to the majority.
He said "In the name of love" and I'm singing without even thinking
Guys, "arranged" marriages is a big word, his mother arranged it. So it's a arranged marriage. That's it. Thanks
And what's wrong with that?
nykwarti nothing, but if you read the rest of the comments, you see that people don't understand
This stuff is true. i met love of my life on 6th december, 2020. we got engaged on 10 december, 2020 and got married on 3rd january 2021. we are so love with each other and have devoted our lives to each other.
I loved this. Anything can work as long as there's genuine chemistry, respect and deep sense of commitment.
I did find.. and yesterday was my first anniversary... through your talk, I relived my marriage... thanks
Hahaha. this guy is hilarious. Once he failed, but Allah is the best planner and He finally gave him a better wife.
Masya Allah, Allah is the All best Planner indeed
MashaALLAH. (praise be to ALLAH)
@@mightyhadi6132 If Allah is the best planner why is there so much unhappy Muslim marriage?
Give me a break.
@@Angell_Lee That's because Life in this world is just a test, their unhappiness is part of Allah plan to test their faith , Death, poverty, sickness , war are also part of the test . Also another reason is many muslim who unhappy were not following the guidance of Qur'an and the way of the prophet in marriage life. And last not all Muslim are not happy most of them are happy go couple in fact it's the other way around many non muslim are having divorce compared to Muslim and most of them are cheating or when to prostitution . According to the data and fact Muslim population is growing fast because of marriage and having a lot of kid. So yes Muslim is very less to have unhappiness accept very very very few of them that we can count by hand and the people are unhappy is just a person who is not following God guidance.
@@mightyhadi6132 Religion is the disease of humanity.
Although I don't love the idea of arranged marriage. I have to be honest and say every single arranged marriage I've seen has worked out great.
All the arranged marriages in my family have been super successful. Ironically, most of the loved marriages haven't worked. Some of them ended in bitter divorces and the others are where both people live in bitterness and regret. It's horrible. I think one of the reasons why arranged marriages are successful is because you get to discover a person and grow with them. Plus when there's a problem, the families get involved and sort it out. Of course there are arranged marriages that fail. But the ones I've seen are successful and they're happy.
What the heck man. Why're you declining your mom's calls? Ha.
I'm not going to lie, your parents being persistent about something that you're not interested in or blatantly tell them you don't want and they still bother you about it is VERY annoying.
My mother asked me so many times for grandchildren. It's not something I want, I ignore her every time she asks.
spybubbble That is a forced marriage
Sometimes when we grow up, we realize we do things in life that we may not always want to do because the people who loved, supported, and cherished us ask for something. It's the least we can do to show them that their opinion is valuable. When they are dead and gone, you will be able to ignore them forever.
Chichi Okolo of f we do something just for their happiness which we did not want to do are not going to help them anyway rather than being happy
+Chichi Okolo I understand your perception but its kind of a bad thing to "ask for grandchildren". It might be a fulfilling and happy think for her/his parents but the children cannot come randomly. To have children you need to have resources, money, preperation and obviously genuine want. If you dont want a child right now and your mom forces you to have a child because she wants grandchildren then the child may be an unwanted child. Thats not exactly motherly. I dont think anyone in theor right mind will have children just to fulfill her/his mother's wish. You have to have responsibility for the children, its not like you can pop out a child and give it to your mother for a gift.
All I'm saying is that never have children just because someone asks/demands you do it for them. Or, really, any activity. You never asked to be born, so why should they treat you like you demanded existence to be served to you on a silver platter. If you're going to do it, do it for yourself, on your own terms, and you better be prepared to do it.
I just saw this guy in the middle of Texas. I even met his mother and they were just amazing.
I agree this is a nice story about your love story and a way arranged marriages would ideally work, but to say “arranged marriage is not a forced marriage” is an oversimplified and utterly naive way to view the subject. Just because the two were not interchangeable in your situation does NOT mean it is not in many other situations. Historically, those who have gotten an arranged marriage did not have any other option - it WAS a forced marriage, the two were synonymous. Additionally, just because it is not explicitly stated as a forced marriage, doesn’t mean that one’s “arranged” marriage does not have all of the pressure and expectation that a forced marriage does. Arranged marriages have the implication that there is no out, if you get married and figure out soon that this won’t work out, you have, unfortunately, much more to consider, that you will dishonor your family. In no way am I condoning these thoughts or attitudes, but I am simply stating that although arranged marriages may not be called forced marriages, they often, not all, times have many of the same pressures as an arranged marriage. You could then talk about, then, that historically people have only had forced marriages...well..yeah that’s very possible and it’s really great that you had a great experience. I would be happy to further discuss this with anyone in a civilized manner.
As a fellow Indian, arranged marriages are how most of my family got together and at least in the last few generations, none of it was forced. In fact, my mom had said no to many guys and actually agreed to marry another guy the day before she met my dad. Once they met, they both were instantly attracted to each other and my mom told her dad (my grandfather) that she wasn't sure what to do. My grandfather told her that he would deal with the other family and made sure that she married the man she wanted. 30 years later, my parents still love each other completely. Even so, not all work out and thankfully my extended family is always supportive of each other. One of my aunts had an arranged marriage that turned out to be abusive in every way. She left him when she got pregnant and moved back in with her parents. Since then, she has married an amazing man who has adopted her daughter and treats her like his own and she suffers no stigma from it (I wasn't even aware of her first marriage until I was a teenager). I am open to having an arranged marriage myself since it's really just introducing two potential partners. I think it really depends on how much the families value their children's feelings on the marriage.
Yeah, I think it's entirely possible for arranged marriages to go well, but they also have great potential to become horrible and abusive. It depends on the people and the family. Even if it is labeled as arranged, does NOT mean it is not forced. "Arranged" is such a vague word that has such a spectrum of definitions. My main problem with this guy's story here is that he took his own story and tried to apply it to the entire concept of arranged marriages and it is laughable how bad this is. Trying to base his entire theory or whatever it is on this one anecdote.
@@OranJJeTofu it is the same for the so called love marriages. You just have to deal with what comes. U can't expect to know how it turns out until u go through it. It's not like u can't just separate if it doesn't work out.
Just because forced marriage exists, it doesn't mean all arranged marriages are forced. Since we can define them separately, why mix them ? It really depends on the family and I am sorry you only got to see the bad side of it. But just because you have seen the forced marriages it doesn't mean the other type doesn't happen.
So let's keep them separate and in their place. Arranged marriage doesn't necessarily mean forced. Forced marriage is bad and arranged marriage is where your family helps you meet someone. It's not that complicated.
@@sasukeuzumakinaruto1 But in love marriages the family doesn't interfere as much
Sounds like any other internet meeting except the parents are involved.
There is a lot of social pressure on getting married.
More pressure on women.
Men are at least allowed more time.
Maybe there is no physical force involved but a lot of social stigma.
I don't like this guy's message.
He makes arranged marriage sound funny but ignores that an unmarried woman or a woman without children has to suffer discrimination from society and family.
I prefer the western approach and not stigmatize non-traditional lifestyles.
Also: men normally don't realize how much more women compromise in traditional marriages. Often because a divorce is harder for them than for men.
Divorced women often loose their children and their reputation.
The situation is not as funny as this guy presents it.
The western approach is emotional masochism
I second you on everything u said a woman feels and does in arranged marriage.
Arranged or not, it depends on the woman's family on whether she feels pressured to compromise or not, in fear of divorce and the like. Even a marriage out of love has compromises. All marriages require compromise, and from both parties. You can't really say that just because it was arranged, it requires more compromise. That doesn't really make sense, because compromises are made when both parties want to make the marriage last. There are exceptions of course, but generalizing it based on how both parties met and the circumstances leading up to the marriage seems pretty silly.
@@madeehaghani9138 agreed. Though I understand where OP is coming from I feel it's one side of another extreme. It almost sounds like every women is a victim based on what the original post said (correct me if I'm wrong). The brother made it clear that arranged marriage is not forced marriage (which is true). And based on how he told his story it was pretty comical. To scorn someone who had a wonderful experience and story to tell from a different perspective is just not right. Disguishing the differences and having a broader insight of the issues and situations at hand is what leads to solutions. Not victimizing and generalizing. You may not have a good experience and some people you may know but that doesn't mean e everyone's experience is like that.
I totally agree.
ya in my story ... after two months ... of blissful conversations and amazing promises... the guy walks away and I am left still picking up pieces of my shattered heart. But I love the picture in the end. Gives me hope that someday I will feel this affection and love from someone towards me.
Congratulations Omar! It was great to meet you and your wife at the observatory tonight!
Omar is an excellent storyteller
I'm getting married in January, tbh when I first started talking to the guy I had it in the back of my head, there was no way I would marry him. A week or so went by of us talking on the phone; bare in mind he lives half way across the world, I tell me mom he seems nice "we have the same goals in life." In April he proposes to me over video chat and I say yes :). I still didn't love him but I knew it would take time, now it is almost September I can honestly say I am in love with him. Being unable to see him in person is not convenient, yet we make it work. I can say my marriage was arranged but I love my fiancé.
Abida Ali Girl be careful!!
lol that's not love...it's just that your time is running out so now you have no option but to love him and that's not real love. You're fooling yourself.
Aww...😍, that's so beautiful! I wish you and your fiance have a happy and a lot of love...🤗
my mom and dad had an arranged marriage (not forced! both my mom and dad were okay with the fact that they're getting married) and now they have 3 kids with me being 14 and my brothers being 7 and 8, they are happily married for over 16 years now and they don't fight and even if they do they talk it out or deal with it like adults and not some bunch of 5-year-olds. and I know they will spend the rest of their life together, till death do them part. I am glad to call myself their daughter!
I just meet oncle Omar it was so 😎 he is a nice person and he said to me and my little brother”I will buy you guys a chess board in Sha Allah
I'm a proud Hyderabadi also. This was an interesting talk. There are so many misconceptions about arranged marriages. This was enlightening.
this really cleared up a lot of misinterpretations and was very sweet and interesting. I enjoyed it
More than anything, this guy just recreated perhaps enacted the entire episode of his match finding thru storytelling......
Great job man... Very impressive
Subhanallah, I really liked the way you presented it. Allah bless you both with all the happiness in both the worlds.
Ameen
I'm in my arrange marriage process, the guy also lives in Chicago. We've talked to each other but hasn't made a decision yet.
I like the guy and the guy likes me (that's what it looks like) but he has to many things to tell before we make our final decision. He told me some of them which I do find creepy but the good part is he's very honest. He's telling me everything you need to know before you marry someone.
LetMe Sleep follow your heart... good luck....
Arranged marriages are not a problem at all if BOTH SIDES are 100% willing 💜.
Omar talks about his childhood, learning language, culture and etc is life time process, he seems to be a ''gifted'' as he learned all that at age 5, and moved on...phew! so easy for him. I see him as being very focused and successful person, Asian kids have parents with
"Great Expectations" usually they fullfill their parents dreams.
Arranged marriages are said to be very successful and last longer. As divorce rate get higher clearly shows we have no idea what were doing and need help. Who better knows you than you mom? Thank you for the speech. I hope you do more events at FIU.
Maria Fundora Garcell
I have to strongly disagree.
Prior to romanticise the concept, you first have to define what "success" in a couple is. Arrange marriages can still have a miserable life. If your marriage was a decision took by society, its coherent to assume that you lack the individual power to put an end to it too. The cohesion is enforced by the group and not by the individuals of the couple, insensible to the actual feelings of the couple.
So its not that a persons' mother knows him better, is that persons who accept arrange marriages have already been condition by certain mold, and part of that conditioning is reflected in their unwillingness to divorce. There is no direct causality, but casualty!
brilliantly put, Osman Yousaf :)
they last longer because you can't escape as easily. society will look down on abused people or those who want to leave a cheater. Most of these marriages aren't so great. At least divorce is available to those who need it else where
Osman Yousaf well wouldn't it be great if we are introduced and then date for some time and then marry
Not true at all. An example: my parents are in an arranged marriage, and they fight every single day. They've done this every day for the past 23 years, yet they are not divorced yet. What does that tell you?
BTW, what this guy is describing in the TED talk is NOT an arranged marriage. He's just doing this to not make it look as bad. In real arranged marriages, your parents decide who you marry and you are given little to no say in the matter. There's a lot of coercion involved.
after listening him i also start feeling that yaa exactly marriage made in heaven