Hey everyone. Sorry about the few moments I misspoke about Tuberculosis being a virus, it very much is a bacteria. That was a covid slip, as we were talking about it off camera and it has been the hot topic to say the least this last year.
Haha, no worries, I was wondering why you called it a virus though and then started listing off antibiotics, since they only have effects on bacteria. On that topic, I once remember a medical student/junior doctor telling me Tuberculosis could cause calcification of the fatty tissue around a heart, is that true?
@@HazardSJ TB can cause calcifications in tissue and organs. There is some fat around the heart, not much. It’s more related to pericardial tuberculosis, not necessarily just fat.
@@DoctorER Thank you for explaining this, I guess he was just trying to point out that it could cause calcification or was exaggerating the extent of it, but it always made me think that the heart would become encased in a bony like cocoon.
Did nobody tell the doctor that, in game, Arthur’s symptoms don’t begin to manifest until months after he was first exposed? Apparently, TB is affected by heat and humidity, so it’s fitting that Arthur’s symptoms got significantly worse after returning from Guarma (a tropical island).
Dude I was just sitting here like “wow they gave him no context to what’s happening” like if I was there I’d tell him more important things like that how he went to guarma
That's really debatable. It can be argued that he got it from Hosea, not Downes like he thought. Hosea was in really bad shape, the same as Arthur, the ginseng elixir, and wanting Dutch to stay in mild/ arid/ not humid climates as opposed to wet and cold ones, on top of the fact that it was known that he was constantly sick, coughing and wheezing. There's even moments in camp where Hosea has coughing fits, and i'm fairly certain in the beginning of the game, Arthur has a regular cough. It wasn't old age, it was TB. In fact, he probably infected the majority, if not everyone in the camp with it.
Doc: “Never seen a head taken off by a shotgun like that…” as a former EMT and retired cop I can confirm a shotgun round CAN do that, but the doc wouldn’t see it because there isn’t much point in transporting to the ER at that point 😁. Good explanations.
I remember I contracted Tuberculosis back when I was in grade 4. The thing is I never understood how serious it was until my dad pointed it out. But I remember this lady who I believe showed up once a week with my medication and some delicious kool-aid and pudding. I eventually got better and thought nothing of it until I played this game. Made me sad watching my man go down. RIP Arthur, I'm sorry they didn't have Raspberry Kool-aid and butterscotch pudding to treat your symptoms.
Not only that, but his disease worsened and worsened, be lucky that we have a cure for it now, cuz back then it either went away after fighting for a long time, or it slowly killed you
The fact that doc knew about the risk of TB at the part where Arthur actually got TB just shows how amazing the writing for the game really is, it’s such a small detail but it’s so realistic
@@coltonfrisbie8788 nah Arthur got tubercolosis when he was beating up a farmer named Thomas Downes to collect money that he had loaned from Leopold Strauss.
How is it a small detail when it’s obvious as hell that the guy has TB and he just coughed right in Arthur’s open mouth? They show Arthur react to it immediately and then show him bothered by it again on his ride back to Strauss
Roger Clark did an amazing job portraying the symptoms slowly getting worse. At first it was just an occasional small cough, then an occasional small cough and a throat clear, then it was an occasional normal cough and throat clear combo, then he added taking a small breath after, then he changed taking a small breath by adding in a mild wheeze, after he collapses it becomes frequent coughing and wheezing, then it went to full-blown lung failure and constant wheezing until he died. It still blows my mind that he made ALL of those stages entirely believable. A great example of that comes after Arthur blows up the tracks with John late in the game. You're given the option to leave with him to continue the story or stay there and do more side stuff. If you choose to stay, don't move Arthur, just let him sit there and listen to him. The sounds Clark makes to show the diseases progression is heartbreaking.
@@pustulio81 Yeah, that second playthrough makes it all so obvious. Even the moment where Arthur gets infected in the first place. In my second playthrough when that guy coughs in Arthur's face, I actually like... flinched. Because I knew that was the moment that Arthur was killed.
@@teacoffee42 He may have just shown up that day, Micah says something along the lines of you not being the first visitor he got that day, but I may be misremembering.
@@whitejasminerice2264 They weren’t that stupid. It was just common practice. They never really had the knowledge we have today. Especially with a lack of communication options, a large scale test for the long term effects of smoking was almost impossible.
I actually read an article where they said a body's immune response is pretty good, not at fighting tuberculosis, but keeping it at bay. And, as long as a person is healthy and caring for themselves it could take years to present. They also said the kidnapping of Arthur by the O'driscolls is the point where the body has been compromised, Arthur is wounded, the immune response is weakened and that's what accelerated the tb.
He was then stranded on Guarma, and got beaten up pretty bad by Fussar's interrogator after the O'Driscoll's; Guarma also being a tropical island with high temperatures and humidity would've exacerbated the disease. It's unfortunate that Dutch condemned Arthur to death (by TB) from the beginning, by ensuring he'd never be able to return to New Austin/lower West Elizabeth again.
It looked like Arthur went septic when he was held captive by the O’driscolls. The sepsis went to his lungs, since they were already infected with tuberculosis. After that, he didn’t have much time left. That one mission is what set it off, prior to that it was just a ticking time bomb. Before anyone says anything, I’ve been septic before. I almost didn’t make it. Which is why I drew that conclusion, his symptoms were just too similar.
I love how this game accurately protrays the symptoms of Tuberculosis in gameplay. The doctor mentioned weight loss, weight is a mechanic in this game and once Arthur gets Tuberculosis it becomes extremely difficult, if not impossible, to keep Arthur from losing weight. It eats away at tissue starting at the lungs which means health and stamina dropping faster than usual too and you become limited to how many healing type of items you can consume before they stop being effective for a while.
About half way through chapter 6, Arthur gets slower too. It throws me off everytime cause in 1st person mode he usually as a pretty quick jog. But halfway through chapter 6 u have to press the run button to get back to the jog or else he walks slowly like in a cut scene. Game is so detailed it's amazing
@@pheonox14 yet, as slow as he was, in the final confrontation of his life, Arthur was still faster than Micah to the draw. Rewatch the scene where Arthur confronts Dutch after saving Abigail, Micah draws first, Arthur was still faster. Badass.
@@haroldsmith5150 micah could've got TB, we'll never know. he moved to a cold and dry place and sometimes TB takes months or years to manifest and some people survive it so that could've been the case
This guy answered the question I was wondering the whole time through my playthrough.... Arthur finds out he's sick & then still sits down & has deep face-to-face conversations....but none of them get tuberculosis. You would think, if you have advanced tuberculosis & you have several conversations within 2 feet of someone...at least one of em would get sick
Some probably are however it isn't always symptomatic and even when it is it can take many years some people live large parts of their life while having it and nothing happens even dying before symptoms start The likelihood of the gang all being asymptomatic is extremely unlikely though
1) story. they weren’t meant to get infected. 2) it’s not a 100% chance. 3) TB has a latent stage. he could have very well given someone TB and it could take a while to manifest depending on their health and lifestyle, though i dont believe he did... uhh is there any record of charles chateney in 1907? lmao
They spent all their time outside, with that type of ventilation, the risk is decreased. They may have contracted it but not develop symptoms. Latent TB is very common, and these people may not develop symptomatic disease until later in life. Abigail dies in 1914 at the age of 37. It’s pure speculation, but I think it’d be interesting if she was confirmed to have died of TB.
Seeing this game spooked me the first time over, because when I was going into my career in education, I found out I was actually positive for TB. I was thinking "holy shit, if I didn't take this type of job, could that have been me?" Which was actually very unlikely, as I had dormant TB, but it was a scare nonetheless. Luckily, thanks to modern medicine, I just had to take pills for a few months that discolored my urine and I'm safer (can't completely get rid of it, but it's incredibly unlikely to be "awoken") and can work in my dream field 🙂
@@LiterallyRyan_Gosling bruh his face looks sunken and red in the middle like that before. i'm literally looking at post TB Arthur model right now before the fight with Micah. what is it with you people and playing mental gymnastics? you're wrong, get over it.
I was thinking the same thing. But you never get a really good look at that rolling block rifle so it’s understandable that he thought it was a shotgun
@@tadessepalazuelos8059 I'm uhhh.... I'm dyin, sister. I got TB. I got it.... beating a man. To death. All for a few bucks. I've lived a bad life, sister.
It still wouldn’t matter, there’s arteries everywhere veins are. If your shot in a vein in would be darker but also bleed a lot more slowly than an artery
I’m tired of these medical professionals having content creation side gigs that only prosper because they’re either attractive or sexualize their area of expertise.
You know what I’m referring to, this guy belongs to the former group and many female professionals opt for the latter. Like the urologist that uses eggplant emojis and close ups of her open mouth for thumbnails to her videos.
@@David_1789while i'm not disagreeing with you, generalizing is kinda unfair, this guy really seems like he just wants to entertain and educate using the knowledge he has
Heck, I learned more about detective techniques & what kind of information that laboratory forensics analysis can show us from Batman comics than anywhere else. For instance, it's extremely difficult to find a criminal suspect who is missing so instead the detectives will look to see if there's a money trail being left behind...Don't follow the person, follow the money.
I think a cool throwback for the epilogue would've been to see Micah with TB after his brawl with Arthur. But of course, Dutch would have probably contacted it eventually also.
That would have continued the idea that the tuberculosis symbolized the inevitability of death for the most brutal of outlaws, I didn’t realize until this video that Arthur must have thought he contracted tuberculosis because of karma.
Maybe not the husband part exploration point you made a good brother-in-law and uncle what would his relationship with John and his family. But as a husband while there is a reason the woman he loved didn't marry him! She loved them she still love them even visiting his grave after he died. Buy believe the entire subplot explain why the two of them would never work because there was no way he would ever have been able to get out of the game oh, the outlaw game I mean! That one is sadly because of Dutch and Man Arthur would have had none but the shake of his head if he saw where Dutch ended up by the events of the first game up to the point he committed suicide when John finally cornered him! A man who fought and hated the system... Because he wasn't a part of it is the best way to kind of describe Dutch. The death of his best friends after that bank robbery by the pinkertons pretty much cemented that Dutch was doomed , Micah didn't make it any better Bud Micah only fan the Flames that were already there to the point that you could say the only good decision Dutch ever made was finally seeing Micah for the snake he was by the end of the epilogue
Can we just take a moment to appreciate all the hard MFers who survived these archaic medical procedures he's talking about (as well as those who didn't), and whose cases gave doctors the understanding that brought medicine to where it is today?
there were a couple of times you misclassified a weapon as a shotgun, what you were looking at was the "Rolling Block" Sniper Rifle, big bullets that don't expand like shotgun pellets do, the reason i know is the big ass scope along the top of the gun when he held it to shoot
Wish he reacted to the whole scene of Arthur being kidnapped, the initial knockout, him trying to crawl away and getting shot, Colm’s torture, and then his grand escape. See how realistic it would be for him to survive that
6:37 Imagine R* had a doctor around telling them this, and they were like: "Yeehaw, insert this right now in-game, or you Yee your last haw!" Its funny to think about it that way for me...
Hey everyone. Sorry about the few moments I misspoke about Tuberculosis being a virus, it very much is a bacteria. That was a covid slip, as we were talking about it off camera and it has been the hot topic to say the least this last year.
No problem doc you’re still far more educated in medicine than any of us.
Haha, no worries, I was wondering why you called it a virus though and then started listing off antibiotics, since they only have effects on bacteria.
On that topic, I once remember a medical student/junior doctor telling me Tuberculosis could cause calcification of the fatty tissue around a heart, is that true?
@@HazardSJ TB can cause calcifications in tissue and organs. There is some fat around the heart, not much. It’s more related to pericardial tuberculosis, not necessarily just fat.
I literally watch gamology just to hear what this guy has to say he’s awesome !
@@DoctorER Thank you for explaining this, I guess he was just trying to point out that it could cause calcification or was exaggerating the extent of it, but it always made me think that the heart would become encased in a bony like cocoon.
**Arthur dying**
Me: Crying
Doctor: He's probably spreading his virus everywhere.
@@graan1802 He corrected himself in the comments
@@graan1802 it's a bacteria that is still highly infectious, why be so pedantic about such trivial word usage? the point that was made still stands.
@@MorrisseyMuse I haven’t seen anyone use the word “pedantic” in a sentence since Seinfeld! 😱
@@MorrisseyMuse Hey guys look, he's using words like pedantic to look smart.
Hey look big brain guy
Did nobody tell the doctor that, in game, Arthur’s symptoms don’t begin to manifest until months after he was first exposed? Apparently, TB is affected by heat and humidity, so it’s fitting that Arthur’s symptoms got significantly worse after returning from Guarma (a tropical island).
Dude I was just sitting here like “wow they gave him no context to what’s happening” like if I was there I’d tell him more important things like that how he went to guarma
That’s one issue that I’ve noticed quite often with this channel.
Also, using mods. Most of the GTA react videos was just reacting to random mods.
That's really debatable. It can be argued that he got it from Hosea, not Downes like he thought.
Hosea was in really bad shape, the same as Arthur, the ginseng elixir, and wanting Dutch to stay in mild/ arid/ not humid climates as opposed to wet and cold ones, on top of the fact that it was known that he was constantly sick, coughing and wheezing. There's even moments in camp where Hosea has coughing fits, and i'm fairly certain in the beginning of the game, Arthur has a regular cough.
It wasn't old age, it was TB. In fact, he probably infected the majority, if not everyone in the camp with it.
@@ouroboros5793 hosea had asthma, theres a couple videos talkin about it
@@ConkShorts No... Definitely not asthma bud. Asthma doesn't affect the skin.
Doc: “Never seen a head taken off by a shotgun like that…” as a former EMT and retired cop I can confirm a shotgun round CAN do that, but the doc wouldn’t see it because there isn’t much point in transporting to the ER at that point 😁. Good explanations.
🤣🤣🤣👍🏾
he's right, a single shotgun bullet doesn't tear the head off, but it destroys and only leaves 30% of the head intact
@@tlzin4499 no, trust me I’m a WW1 veteran and people did actually get there heads completely blown off by shotguns
Starrigby the last living ww1 vet turned 110 10 years ago.. no WW1 vets are even alive u aint fooling anyone
@@CatchTheMarmosets oh sorry 😅 i meant to say the Civil War
When I heard Arthur start coughing more and more, I was starting to do every Side mission to extend the amount of time I had left to play as him.
I don't mind playing with John if JOHN LOOKED LIKE JOHN AND NOT ARTHUR
@@anthonylombardo4829 what?
@@SleepyFawn they use the tb model of Arthur for John they just changed his hair and eye color
@@championevan4651 really? I didn't even notice!
I just hate not being able to swim. I explore all the islands and anything else water related while I'm arthur
"This guy looked really uncomfortable being shot and bleeding out"
- Doctor Jordan Wagner
Lol. The things I say 😂
@@DoctorER your not wrong doe
@@DoctorER I'd be slightly upset if I were to be shot
Give this man a award
Well he was giving the game credit for that, because most games aren't as accurate in that regard. Still funny out of context though lol.
I remember I contracted Tuberculosis back when I was in grade 4. The thing is I never understood how serious it was until my dad pointed it out. But I remember this lady who I believe showed up once a week with my medication and some delicious kool-aid and pudding. I eventually got better and thought nothing of it until I played this game. Made me sad watching my man go down.
RIP Arthur, I'm sorry they didn't have Raspberry Kool-aid and butterscotch pudding to treat your symptoms.
Still better than the lumbago
@@kendricklamarfan21 It's a slow and painful death, my brother.
Not only that, but his disease worsened and worsened, be lucky that we have a cure for it now, cuz back then it either went away after fighting for a long time, or it slowly killed you
@@roythemailboy5751 I saw that 1.5 million people died of TB in 2020, must be underdeveloped countries?
Once you look into the history of medicine, you thank god for modern medicine.
_Arthur/John ruthlessly mortally wound NPCs and watch them bleed out._
Doctor: “Nice.”
@Android / he’s gotta make a living some how
@Android / why do you not have eyes
But then when an NPC gets the family jewels blown off, the doctor winces and says, "that's messed up." 😏
@@R.M.MacFru Even he knows when it’s gone too far
@@brianisme6498 don't you mean "mais gotta do something for a living these days"? (You know, because its from a western)
The fact that doc knew about the risk of TB at the part where Arthur actually got TB just shows how amazing the writing for the game really is, it’s such a small detail but it’s so realistic
I thoughts he got it at the island
@@coltonfrisbie8788 nah Arthur got tubercolosis when he was beating up a farmer named Thomas Downes to collect money that he had loaned from Leopold Strauss.
@@Heyhowareya97 k thanks I just saw that he got the symptoms soon after the island so I made the assumption
@@coltonfrisbie8788he started coughing pretty soon after chapter 2, it just wasnt very noticeable until guarma
How is it a small detail when it’s obvious as hell that the guy has TB and he just coughed right in Arthur’s open mouth?
They show Arthur react to it immediately and then show him bothered by it again on his ride back to Strauss
Roger Clark did an amazing job portraying the symptoms slowly getting worse. At first it was just an occasional small cough, then an occasional small cough and a throat clear, then it was an occasional normal cough and throat clear combo, then he added taking a small breath after, then he changed taking a small breath by adding in a mild wheeze, after he collapses it becomes frequent coughing and wheezing, then it went to full-blown lung failure and constant wheezing until he died.
It still blows my mind that he made ALL of those stages entirely believable. A great example of that comes after Arthur blows up the tracks with John late in the game. You're given the option to leave with him to continue the story or stay there and do more side stuff. If you choose to stay, don't move Arthur, just let him sit there and listen to him. The sounds Clark makes to show the diseases progression is heartbreaking.
Yes, he truly did an outstanding job!
It didn't even actually cross my mind before he collapsed. Briliant writing.
@@Mictlantecuhtli I know, it's only in the second playthrough that you really start to notice the beginning stages.
@@pustulio81 Yeah, that second playthrough makes it all so obvious. Even the moment where Arthur gets infected in the first place. In my second playthrough when that guy coughs in Arthur's face, I actually like... flinched. Because I knew that was the moment that Arthur was killed.
Yeah I’ve always thought about that! How does he fake it so well! It’s hard to believe this was his first project. He did amazing.
That ending still kills me, especially the part where Arthur looks up at Dutch and says "I gave you all I had."
Fucking sad 😔
Ofc it kills you. It's Arthur's death after all
edit: and yes this is a joke don't @ me
".... I did"
@@teacoffee42 He may have just shown up that day, Micah says something along the lines of you not being the first visitor he got that day, but I may be misremembering.
@@zeapsin186 it smack my soul but I chuckled
This doctor 100% went home and bought this game
the game is highly recommend itself
Honestly a lot of people with careers like this I’m sure hangout and game on the regular when they have time
@@nVade. That's the thing, people with careers like these don't have the time.
@@impg8801 true
And he knows how to deal maximum damage
As a 26yr old man, I'm not afraid to admit I cried when Arthur died.
Who didn't?
@@vin-dog575anyone who disliked the game
still a failure?
Me too
@@vin-dog575i didn't lol
Doctor: "I love the fact that they discussed tuberculosis"
Any living person that finish red dead: "we don't"
We don't like to remember
Why...
@@edlinze7367 because the story is depressing. The games a masterpiece though.
We dont take about it
@@edlinze7367 don't want to cry again
I like that he’s dressed as a doctor so we know he’s legit.
Lol yeh they even threw in the stethoscope
Lmaoo that’s true huh he could’ve just dressed normally
@@horaciogonzalez618 guess they just really wanted to make sure people knew he was a doctor lol.
@@cowboy0827 like in every TV show about doctors lmao
Lmao YES the fact that the way he read the script just seems so legit
I wish that this doctor traveled back in time with some TB treatment
Same!!
Me too boah
@@DoctorER you could have save Arthur 😢
Except it wouldn't do any good cause Arthur Morgan is a fictional charecter.
@@KahosSaint you’re a fictional character!
The guy is just casually talking while Arthur Morgan just sadly dies
He’s an ER doctor... he has to deal with real people dying every day.
@@allmachtigenallergroter5298 i doubt he played the game too so he ismt attached like we are
@@allmachtigenallergroter5298 i know but it’s just sad
@@Huntershaw9 it is sad. And it always will be. I’ve been gaming for a long time and I have never felt for a character like I did with Arthur Morgan
@@jeremyblackwater439 Arthur and Joel 😔
" what are your Symptoms ?"
" I'm coughing.
Doctor lights pipe.
hahaha
😂
Thats because back then they thought smoking was healthy
@@branjer1304 yeah back then people are stupid
@@whitejasminerice2264 They weren’t that stupid. It was just common practice. They never really had the knowledge we have today. Especially with a lack of communication options, a large scale test for the long term effects of smoking was almost impossible.
“You got tuberculosis hell of a thing”
Tb is no joke!!! hey thanks for watching !
@@DoctorER thanks doc
@@DoctorER thanks
Me when I found out Arthur got TB: 🥳🥳🥳😝😂🤗🤗
@@EduardoSalamanca1960 you rat
I actually read an article where they said a body's immune response is pretty good, not at fighting tuberculosis, but keeping it at bay. And, as long as a person is healthy and caring for themselves it could take years to present. They also said the kidnapping of Arthur by the O'driscolls is the point where the body has been compromised, Arthur is wounded, the immune response is weakened and that's what accelerated the tb.
Yeah also stranded on guarma Island definitely made it worse
He was then stranded on Guarma, and got beaten up pretty bad by Fussar's interrogator after the O'Driscoll's; Guarma also being a tropical island with high temperatures and humidity would've exacerbated the disease. It's unfortunate that Dutch condemned Arthur to death (by TB) from the beginning, by ensuring he'd never be able to return to New Austin/lower West Elizabeth again.
@@kimberlyh.1090I wouldn't really blame Dutch for Arthur getting tb, and the blackwater job happened before arthur got tb
It looked like Arthur went septic when he was held captive by the O’driscolls. The sepsis went to his lungs, since they were already infected with tuberculosis. After that, he didn’t have much time left. That one mission is what set it off, prior to that it was just a ticking time bomb.
Before anyone says anything, I’ve been septic before. I almost didn’t make it. Which is why I drew that conclusion, his symptoms were just too similar.
John: *Shoots a guy in the neck.*
Doctor: "Nice"
4:53
Thought the same, he is actually getting hyped more and more😄
@@Louderboy. I'm still playing it lol, it never gets old.
Glad videos are still being made about rdr2.
@@asteriasheria2053 I agree, it’s my favourite game of all time and I still play it 2 and a half years later, so it’s very refreshing to see
i loved the ouch
the fact that a real doctor was impressed by the realism of the games shows how realistic this game is
i don’t think he‘s a doctor.. a doctor would know that tuberculosis is a bacteria and not a virus
male horse balls literally shrink in the cold in this game lol. arguably the most realistic game I know.
@@ForzaMonkey yeah Rockstar probably put « too much » detail in that game
@@ArthurMorgan-uz1px too much? they should do this realistic thing more often!
@@ForzaMonkey yeah i hope they do but i better not see my horse ballsack’s size change with the temperature in Rdr3
I missed Arthur Morgan he was my most favourite Video game character and was the best
🙏
he dies??
@@tylerenol7703 yep
@@tylerenol7703 bruhh i hate people who dont add spoiler warning and even more people who say "why you add spoiler warning in 3 YEaRs OlD game"
I hated when John marston died as well, he went out a true family man
Person: *gets shot and is bleeding out and suffocating*
Doctor: N I C E
I love how this game accurately protrays the symptoms of Tuberculosis in gameplay. The doctor mentioned weight loss, weight is a mechanic in this game and once Arthur gets Tuberculosis it becomes extremely difficult, if not impossible, to keep Arthur from losing weight. It eats away at tissue starting at the lungs which means health and stamina dropping faster than usual too and you become limited to how many healing type of items you can consume before they stop being effective for a while.
me when my arthur is now actually starting to get a tiny bit overweight:
I actually managed to make Arthur a bit overweight before the end of his life.
About half way through chapter 6, Arthur gets slower too. It throws me off everytime cause in 1st person mode he usually as a pretty quick jog. But halfway through chapter 6 u have to press the run button to get back to the jog or else he walks slowly like in a cut scene. Game is so detailed it's amazing
*eats big game every 30 minutes*
@@pheonox14 yet, as slow as he was, in the final confrontation of his life, Arthur was still faster than Micah to the draw. Rewatch the scene where Arthur confronts Dutch after saving Abigail, Micah draws first, Arthur was still faster.
Badass.
Witnessing the saddest moment in Video Game history
Doctor : His spreading virus everywhere
Me : Hopes it spread to Micah
Arthur coughed blood into Micah face and he didn't catch it
unfortunately
@@uhdeceptxcon6477 yea, but John gets him anyways.
@@haroldsmith5150 micah could've got TB, we'll never know. he moved to a cold and dry place and sometimes TB takes months or years to manifest and some people survive it so that could've been the case
And Dutch
"Nice."
Nice
Nice
your vids are part of my childhood man. its nice seeing you randomly here haha
@@WizzardofCats Friedrich, was geht?
You rock
This guy answered the question I was wondering the whole time through my playthrough....
Arthur finds out he's sick & then still sits down & has deep face-to-face conversations....but none of them get tuberculosis. You would think, if you have advanced tuberculosis & you have several conversations within 2 feet of someone...at least one of em would get sick
“Weight loss”
Arthur was jacked to his grave.
Not even TB could take that from him 😩
Word
In my game he got ad underweight as possible
he still loses weight due to it, you don't benefit from eating too much food after TB starts to take its toll on arthur
@TriHard 7 Micah was scared of arthur before he got tb
Arthur lost a lot of weight and strength by the end of the game when Mr Milton was overpowering him he said "your losing your strength mr Morgan "
"There were some medicines such as aspirine and cocaine"good times
They also had whiskey and shitty weed
@@tmillion8614 even better
@@tmillion8614 true that they did have cannabis tinctures
we use a form of cocaine still to this day in the ER
@@DoctorER you are one of the best reactors
"Theres probably tuberculosis" Only if you knew
He did... they played both the part where the doctor diagnosed it and where Arthur dies.
"If you only knew"*
Doppio
@@Lord_Shitpost77 Jotaro you really seem less buff
@@radical-dude well my outfit is more lose then normal
4:04 love how he doesn’t know arthur was about to be brutally killed or left for dead in this scene 😂
Bro I know I’m he’s like tB is spreading on his face but in reality micha and author were in a fight
@@hannahallen9506micah*
I thought they were gonna talk about a very serious sickness..... L U M B A G O
Hi. Sorry about that but lumbago is just back pain
@@DoctorER he's referring to an inside joke within the video game.
@@dillonthiemens8713 ohhhh. Haha. Didn’t know that. Thanks. I was seeing people say lumbago everywhere... just back pain don’t get it. Lol.
U called me?
Bad business
"This person doesn't need to worry about it, 'cause he's dead..." Ouch
How tf did the whole gang not contract TB when Arthur was in close proximity to all of them for months without wearing a mask
That’s a good point 🤣
Because he wants in their face beating them up and spitting in their face
Some probably are however it isn't always symptomatic and even when it is it can take many years some people live large parts of their life while having it and nothing happens even dying before symptoms start
The likelihood of the gang all being asymptomatic is extremely unlikely though
1) story. they weren’t meant to get infected.
2) it’s not a 100% chance.
3) TB has a latent stage. he could have very well given someone TB and it could take a while to manifest depending on their health and lifestyle, though i dont believe he did... uhh is there any record of charles chateney in 1907? lmao
They spent all their time outside, with that type of ventilation, the risk is decreased. They may have contracted it but not develop symptoms. Latent TB is very common, and these people may not develop symptomatic disease until later in life.
Abigail dies in 1914 at the age of 37. It’s pure speculation, but I think it’d be interesting if she was confirmed to have died of TB.
"The gunpowder at that range could burn your face, but of course that guy doesn't have to worry about that because he's dead." Well said
Seeing this game spooked me the first time over, because when I was going into my career in education, I found out I was actually positive for TB.
I was thinking "holy shit, if I didn't take this type of job, could that have been me?" Which was actually very unlikely, as I had dormant TB, but it was a scare nonetheless.
Luckily, thanks to modern medicine, I just had to take pills for a few months that discolored my urine and I'm safer (can't completely get rid of it, but it's incredibly unlikely to be "awoken") and can work in my dream field 🙂
Happy to hear that you’re ok,good luck
"Tuberculosis on the skin"
*arthur getting beaten to shit 5 seconds earlier*
Naaaah... 100% tuberculosis.
his face looked like that all the way up through the last chapter.
Bruises don’t develop that fast
Well it isn't tuberculosis because he would've gotten it earlier
@@LiterallyRyan_Gosling bruh his face looks sunken and red in the middle like that before. i'm literally looking at post TB Arthur model right now before the fight with Micah. what is it with you people and playing mental gymnastics? you're wrong, get over it.
This isn't a video game. Its art, its a masterpiece.
Who's gonna tell him that art is subjective
@@sontalks It can also be objective lol.
@@sontalks yes but how can you not like red dead 2
lol
Not a masterpiece
Dr. Jordan is extremely underrated. Get him to react to more stuff please!
Thanks for that. Few more to come soon.
hey doc, do a part 2 plz.
There's so many injuries in this game.
Although he does seem to think TB is a virus
@@bassett_green nah, it’s a bacteria. Check out top comment.
@@hzjake that’s a good idea.
The death of Arthur Morgan is probably one of the saddest moments in gaming history
Nah losing a pet wolf in minecraft is the saddest moments in gaming history................................
@@wetube6513 I was 10 when Grum died...fell into a fucking lava pool. Cried my heart out.
It is no doubt the saddest moment in any game’s history… Nothing will ever top it. I’m sure of it
the only one that made me cry
I really enjoy watching this doctor analyse all the medically related moments in games.
Appreciated it
@@DoctorER you have a new subscriber!
You forgot when Uncle tells Arthur he has terminal lumbago.
Yeah wtf, why was this not addressed
@@Bongstahable Uncle probably doesn't have lumbago. He might have use it as an excuse to be lazy
@@clonecommanderrex8542 you dont say
I know the answer in whether or not he has lumbago, but I can't tell ya cuz I got lumbago, it's a really deadly thang.
@@clonecommanderrex8542 Looks like we have a Sherlock Holmes here, people.
The doctor explaining what happens during the process traumatizes me even more than the actual gameplay.
Ikr, it's like it makes it much easier to imagine the pain and whatnot, at least for me
8:56 that caught me of guard 💀
The Doctor looks like Mark Zuckerberg if he was a normal human being
He has shtoyle
You’re right! Like his much more handsome brother. lol
If he wasn't a robot . But tbh he reminds me of officer doofy
LMAO I love this comment
I was thinking the same
John:stomps on somebody's foot and continues to shoot them in the head with a bow
Doctor:laughs maniacally
Which minute?
@@coprilettodelnapoli5466 10:08
I like that he thought his skin was "jacked up" due to tuberculosis and not that he was just in a intense ass fight with Micah 😂
Micah had some god tier plot armor for not catching tuberculosis from Arthur during that fight.
@@zackdane275 especially during the knife fight when a knife covered in Arthur’s blood slash’s Micah all over
It would've been a cool detail if micah started coughing during the standoff with john
@@VergilsLastName Coughing 8 years later after getting TB?? Idk Man seems kinda unrealystic
@@monketogetherstrong5363 well it can take years to develop symptoms idk if that long
Thank you Doc. Learning a lot of stuff here.. it’s actually very interesting
Y’all for real making me cry again with Arthur dying 😢 😭
I cryed more then you 😢😢
1 of only a couple games that legitimately made me cry to see my char permanently die 😭
I wasn’t crying I was absolutely fuming pissed.
@@Sauce_Sensei a mix of sadness and anger?
Join games nah mostly anger, I never get that way with games but with Micah being the one to end Arthur...I almost broke my game
I honestly never knew Red Dead 2 had a necrosis and decay aspect. Makes it so much better, more realistic. All this info was great too
I knew that they had it for animals, but I didn't know they had it for humans too
@@jcoolguy1548you can also use dead humans or animals as bait. I did it when I was hunting for panthers, or grizzlies
I love this guy. He explains everything so professionally
It was a rolling block rifle, not a shotgun.
no fucking shit. i don't think the doc is looking at the scope of the gun, more the wounds.
@@tartimooal7898he looked at it enough to make an assumption that it was a shotgun he just doesn’t know much about guns
He’s a doctor, not a gunsmith or armorer. He’s talking about the injuries not the guns, it really doesn’t matter that much.
@TarTimOoAl @jackisjack Well one would think it would matter in this instance considering both guns would be leaving different injuries 🙄
@@GthsooshtG he's still a fucking doctor afterall. don't expect him to be a weapons expert when he doesn't look at guns all day.
**gun has long scope and long barrel**
"This looks like a shotgun so..."
I mean, he spent ten years studying to save lives, not take em.
He's a doctor, not a gun nut dammit!
Came here to say the same thing, but obviously there’s a reason he’s a doctor not a gun salesman
@@lukiapotato8526 doc
I was thinking the same thing. But you never get a really good look at that rolling block rifle so it’s understandable that he thought it was a shotgun
“My path is coming to an end reverend”
“I know Arthur and I know you’ll face it like a man like the warrior you are”
I believe in Sister Dialogue superiority
@@tadessepalazuelos8059 I'm uhhh....
I'm dyin, sister.
I got TB. I got it.... beating a man. To death. All for a few bucks.
I've lived a bad life, sister.
@@shawnthompson2303 That moment still gives me chills to this day.
i got spoiled about the fact that he gets tb and dies from it should i even buy the game
@@pn7600 Yes the writing and characterization is really good even if you know Arthur’s gonna die it’s still worth it to experience the story
The blood color changes to darker depends where you shoot the NPC. For that reason, it's the most detailed game I've ever seen.
It still wouldn’t matter, there’s arteries everywhere veins are. If your shot in a vein in would be darker but also bleed a lot more slowly than an artery
@@RagingUtai tlou 2 is a masterpiece
@Xerius the gameplay is the same as the first and even then isn't anything special. It's serviceable and satisfactory but nothing to be praised.
@@Πέτρος-ξ7θ no
Alternate title:
Modern Medical Professional reacts to color footage of 1800s
Damn
Black lung gets diagnosed with tuberculosis 1899 colorized.
@@EduardoSalamanca1960 goddamn rat
@@EduardoSalamanca1960 i found you again
@@alexalaniz5176 bruh moment
This is such a perfect game to bring the doc on for! Great choice Gamology.
thanks so much appreciate it
Thanks W D! :)
@@Gamology make David hayter reacts to metal Gear solid games
@@DoctorER Hey doc, it's my time to take you to a field trip.
“He looked really uncomfortable getting shot…”
High quality medical content, doc.
I’m tired of these medical professionals having content creation side gigs that only prosper because they’re either attractive or sexualize their area of expertise.
You know what I’m referring to, this guy belongs to the former group and many female professionals opt for the latter. Like the urologist that uses eggplant emojis and close ups of her open mouth for thumbnails to her videos.
@@David_1789while i'm not disagreeing with you, generalizing is kinda unfair, this guy really seems like he just wants to entertain and educate using the knowledge he has
guy: gets brutalized and dies slowly
doc: *nice*
At 4:15 I don’t think he realizes that it probably isn’t tb that made his skin like that, it’s just Micah beating him up
You know, when he says nice after observing a brutal murder, we gamers do kind of look like psychopatha
Violence is in our human nature
Psychopaths?
@@mercilesslymugentenshin8651 I like psychopatha
Doctor is a great profession for serial killers.... Just saying
@@imperialdebauchery5988 True. The best surgeons rank lowest in empathy.
Dude I'm never gonna stop saying this I learn more from TH-cam than my teachers.What's my grade Gamology?
A+
@@DoctorER can I have one too?
Heck, I learned more about detective techniques & what kind of information that laboratory forensics analysis can show us from Batman comics than anywhere else. For instance, it's extremely difficult to find a criminal suspect who is missing so instead the detectives will look to see if there's a money trail being left behind...Don't follow the person, follow the money.
@@MidnightDStroyer Yes, follow the paper trail, be it money or documents.
Well, schools really are a waste of time and are nothing more than a memory contest. I'm not surprised by your comment.
"the burns can cause a lot of pain but this guy doesn't need to worry about that because he's DEAD"
Still feels like a brother died watching Arthur's passing. Goddamn this game is a masterpiece
Having a doctor explain Arthurs’s condition and death makes his story all the more sad
ignorance truly is bliss. but it's better to know. ah the duality of knowledge. tis a curse and a blessing.
Always good to see Doc around I learn so much more about things I didn’t know.
Also I love he’s reactions to combat.
Keep it up!
Thank you!
I think a cool throwback for the epilogue would've been to see Micah with TB after his brawl with Arthur. But of course, Dutch would have probably contacted it eventually also.
I wish he would have.
That would have continued the idea that the tuberculosis symbolized the inevitability of death for the most brutal of outlaws, I didn’t realize until this video that Arthur must have thought he contracted tuberculosis because of karma.
@@BunnyQueen97 arthur was aware that he caught it from downes, he writes in his journal that he caught it from downes
@@Daniel-sx6vc yeah isn’t he like “after getting shot at and stuff, that guy downes is gonna be the one who kills me”
3:59 he actually just got in a fistfight but it was also the TB
Cuts jugular with six-inch knife
Doc: that’s gonna spray quite far
Saddest scene in gaming history: Oh yes he looks kinda sick I guess.
He probably does Not know the Kontext
@@Heisenberg929 Context*
@@nickhannah9543 ah yes my German autocorrection i Love it
@@Heisenberg929 Mortal Kontext
@@hasanwaheed6770 good one
I'm loving that he not only made a great and informative video, but also he's responding to some comments. Jordan is awesome
Thanks Arthur.
@@DoctorER Hi
Love how I've played this game so many times and I don't think I've ever seen any of those throat slit animations, or the shooting animation at 7:47
I learned more about the body in this video than I did in high school health class
Maybe you didn’t pay enough attention?
@@Mster_J Yeah. More enjoyable presentation tends to do that.
Agreed, and while i remember some bits, the lesson really sticks when its off media or an example your actually into beforehand.
Agree
5:24
“You’re too old to be this drunk.”
*Gets shot*
I love how while John was slitting people's throats the Doc was basically giving him props for going for the jugular.
“Obviously this person doesn’t need to worry about that because they’re dead” is my favourite part 💀💀
RIP Author, although he is an outlaw, he’s a good man. He would have been a great husband and a father.
RIP Author. He wrote many great books
"Dutch taught me to read. John to."
@@RockApe_ 😂
Maybe not the husband part exploration point you made a good brother-in-law and uncle what would his relationship with John and his family. But as a husband while there is a reason the woman he loved didn't marry him! She loved them she still love them even visiting his grave after he died. Buy believe the entire subplot explain why the two of them would never work because there was no way he would ever have been able to get out of the game oh, the outlaw game I mean! That one is sadly because of Dutch and Man Arthur would have had none but the shake of his head if he saw where Dutch ended up by the events of the first game up to the point he committed suicide when John finally cornered him! A man who fought and hated the system... Because he wasn't a part of it is the best way to kind of describe Dutch. The death of his best friends after that bank robbery by the pinkertons pretty much cemented that Dutch was doomed , Micah didn't make it any better Bud Micah only fan the Flames that were already there to the point that you could say the only good decision Dutch ever made was finally seeing Micah for the snake he was by the end of the epilogue
Rip Arthur, but i hope Author of this video wont rest in peace because of the major spoilers and no warning
Doc: headshots don't always kill you
CTs using m4: we know
"there would be burn scars from the close range gun powder but he doesnt have to worry about that cuz he's dead"
surprisingly funny quote
Looking back at old medicine makes me so happy to be alive now but also so curious as to what we're doing wrong and will hopefully fix in the future
“Obviously this person has to worry about it because they’re dead” lol that had me dying 💀
Doc if you play this game from start till end, you'll be tearing whilst explaining his death
This guy is super informative
Thanks.
Thanks to you Dr!!
The doctor everytime someone gets mercilessly executed: "NOICE" 😏
Can we just take a moment to appreciate all the hard MFers who survived these archaic medical procedures he's talking about (as well as those who didn't), and whose cases gave doctors the understanding that brought medicine to where it is today?
The last time i was this early, I trusted Micah
Ooooo
Me too
Nah I ain't trust him once he smoked that dude in the jail cell with him so quick
@@trizytrei_pro2441 and the most sad thing is that he killed everybody in the village
Rat
Can we just appreciate how this guy is the only living soul that did not cry at Arthur’s death
He prolly didn't have the context of the game. He called dutch "that guy"
@@LearnWithMcGrawHill He called Arthur this Guy as well
I didn't cry.... But I guess I didn't get that emotionally attached
@@MegaSolidninja i’m jealous
I didnt too tbh i was thinking about if i still got cake from yesterday in my fridge while he was dying lmao
there were a couple of times you misclassified a weapon as a shotgun, what you were looking at was the "Rolling Block" Sniper Rifle, big bullets that don't expand like shotgun pellets do, the reason i know is the big ass scope along the top of the gun when he held it to shoot
He looks like the most doctor-looking doctor in the world
That means he's a real doctor.
Wish he reacted to the whole scene of Arthur being kidnapped, the initial knockout, him trying to crawl away and getting shot, Colm’s torture, and then his grand escape. See how realistic it would be for him to survive that
It depends on where you were shot, yk. You’re not gonna die from a shot to the shoulder like that, Arthur cauterized it too
@Arthur Morgan long lost brother
Doctor: “Nice, shot to the neck”
Also doctor: “Not exactly sure why he fell to the ground”
“that looks like a shotgun” poor poor doc 😔
I know I wasn't the only guy who cried when Arthur died right?
Of course not. Only an unfeeling monster could finish the story without tearing up.
I cried like a baby. I didn't even get the Good ending
No I cried too
@@carterjeremy89 me too
@@batmaneditzzz You also got the shot in the face ending?..
At 3:39 his skin is jacked up in the death scene for Arthur because he just gotten the crap beaten out of him by Micah and not because of his disease
He wouldn't have known that. He's just stating that TB can also affect the skin.
Regardless, the skin on Arthur’s face started to look worse and worse throughout Chapter 6, so he is right in that sense.
Compare his skin in the beggining vs at the end of the game, of course the TB has some effect on that.
@@paris-ml1gy yep
"You don't wanna put limbs in a jar to preserve it that's kinda weird."
casually looks at the brain in a jar behind him.
8:57 "but they don't have to worry about that because their dead." Is it bad that I think that's funny lol.
I'd love to have him and a gun specialist talking about these sort of injuries and whatnot, getting a good view from both fields.
"He's to be in a bit of discomfort after being shot in the neck and bleeding out" Wow he really is a doctor 😂
RIP Arthur Morgan the best outlaw gunslinger ever who else cried at the end when they heard the music for his faith
Cry
@Shadow GHOST I was so sad 😞. I’m replaying it now slowly and I’m talking to everyone. Trying to catch every fish. Eat meals...just slow 😏
@Shadow GHOST you know it 😏
May I
Stand unshaken
Amidst
Amidst a crashing world
😢 RIP Arthur Morgan.
at first I was like "what? WHy arent we the original guy?" and well that sort of thinking didnt last long cause holy shit what a ride.
6:37 Imagine R* had a doctor around telling them this, and they were like: "Yeehaw, insert this right now in-game, or you Yee your last haw!"
Its funny to think about it that way for me...