Great video. I stumbled across this video doing a google search. I’m surprised it hasn’t gone viral yet as these 3rd gens are in demand! I have a similar setup with Bilstein 5100s front and rear. I’m currently running 17x7.5 oem tacoma wheels with 265/65r17 tires. I also have oem upper control arms. The upper Control arm is about half an inch away from the tire. If I go with a 16x8 wheel with your same tire size of 285/75r16 what offset do I need in order to clear the upper control arms? I heard you mention an offset of -6 with your setup. I don’t have fender flares as mine is just an SR5. Would a 0 offset clear the upper control arms or would I have to go with your setup of a -6 offset? Appreciate the help brother.
Thanks.. Very informative.. Your videos really giving me ideas for my 96 3rd gen.... Please can you recap what you did for the drop links... Much appreciated I'm in Scotland.. Getting good info on these is hard..3rd gen Getting as rare as unicorn dung..
Tires and lift look great! I’m running same springs/shocks but with 265/75/16. Thinking about upgrading to 285/70/16. Does the truck feel sluggish? Do you feel it needs to be re-geared or there really is no difference? Any feedback greatly appreciated. Thanks
Great stuff! Thanks for covering this (as a follow up to your earlier video). As a newbie to 3rd Gen T4R and all of the mods to consider (lift, suspension, etc.), this is very helpful. Those Cooper STT's look awesome! I'd love to get some for my '98, but they're a little pricey (and I don't do much off-roading yet). How do they perform in snow?
Good to hear, thanks. They seemed to be ok. I went out twice in heavy snow. In the softer fresh it was good. In older icy snow, still slippery but that's to be expected i geuss.
Hi Sir nice video thanks for good info I lifted mine with bilsteins and ome all around and my rig feels like it’s going to fall apart when I’m on the freeway something is not right do you have any advice thank you in advance
Really like your channel. I have 881 up front and thinking of swapping out the OME shocks to Bilsteins and raising them to the 2nd perch to clear bumper and 33' , what r your thoughts, thx
@@Beacon_Offroad wow thx for your quick reply,btw did u ever install the SPC,s if so what r your thoughts say in comparison to Total Chaos uniballs, thx
@@adamh2837 we install and more importantly align lots of toyotas at the shop. The clear advantage of spc's is the extra adjustability. Because of the upper camber and caster movement you can put your lower cams in max position giving you more rear tire clearance. We usually install 333 fab cam lockout kit. For this reason there the obvious choice for me..
So I think you will be the perfect person to ask as you run both suspensions im looking at. Looking at the OME/5100 lift and the Dobinson lift you did on your tacoma (I have a 2nd gen tacoma). I was wanting to know your opinion on which lift you like better on/off road/load capacity, quality etc. I know there is price point difference but not important. Either way the packs will be replaced for what I need. Thanks
Well, both perform great. I think if youre more budget conscience go Bilstein. But if you have some money to spend, Id go even further and go remote reservoir type stuff. For my Tacoma I have no regrets but wish I would have just went all out from the beginning, lol.
Newby to your channel and liking the content very much! I have the same color 99 SR5 (no diff locks however) as my ride in Costa Rica. So fun cruising the back roads in search of rivers and waterfalls. I'm a fellow BC'er that spends time there and slowly doing similar modes. Unfortunately the mechanics down there are not as skilled as you. Looking forward to viewing future videos. Pura Vida!
@@Beacon_OffroadC.R. is different but similar to Costal BC. It has rainforests that are lush green, lots of rivers to cross, slippery volcanic mud and beautiful beaches you are allowed to camp on. A 4wd drive is almost mandatory if you want to go off pavement. The 4runner is a classic there and parts are readily available. They hold there value too. I paid $10K USD for mine 2 years ago. Put nearly $4K USD in repairs and upgrades. I could still sell it for $10K USD. Wish I had it here for the summer months. Thanks for connecting and I will be watching for future videos!
How well did the 883s go onto the 5100s? Ome says 883s won’t work on anything but their brand strut. Do they fit well on the coil seats? And where did you get your top hats for the coil overs?
Hey, everybody and there dog has put ome coils on 5100s. It's been done a million times. I'm not sure but I think you're misinformed. Either way there's absolutely no issue with fitment. The top hats are aftermarket replacements by Monroe, virtually any parts will have or get you them.
@@Beacon_Offroad 🤔hmm I’ve been a bit reluctant about sizing up because of that thought, considering the new weight of the tires and wheels. I’ve also heard people needing to regear, when they run a larger setup. Do you think that fitment would be appropriate on my 3rd Gen then? Currently, I have Bilstein 6112s in the front with SPC control arms, and Bilstein B8 5160s in the rear, giving me about a 2.5” lift.
I was wondering if you were gonna replace the upper control arms? I’m about to buy a lift and the arms are $600 more. Do you think they should be replaced?
Well my truck is proof yiu don't absolutely have to. Mines working great without Them and the alignments good. That being said, I bought them and going to replace them on my truck, just cause.
It got done eventually and still rubs a touch on that side. I'd say its more to do with being over flexed. I recently did a travel test without springs in to check fitment for 34s. Definitely need bumps stops to limit travel and some bumper triming.
Nice video, going to be installing my own 883s tomorrow. I have the 891s out back and want the truck to sit level if not a tiny bit of rake. Which preload setting did you put your snap ring on on your front shocks? Thanks
I hope you install more mods on your 3rd gen and share it on your channel! I recently bought me one same year 97! I have a question though! Why most people prefer the SR5 model over the limited one to mod?
@@Beacon_Offroad I personally think the sr5 body looks sharper than the limited, you can see it clearly on the fender flares, the limited model looks more bulky
I have a question for you. Was wondering if you can help me out. I have a 3rd Gen. runner manual transmission 4 cylinder 2.7. I understand a lot of people go with the red line G L4 gear oil for the transmission fluid. And a lot of people don't recommend the standard G L5 that autozone sells Because of the extra sulfur that damages the synchros. However there are some that autozone now sales that says for requirements G L4 and G L5 but don't know if that is safe to use. Some people say just to stick with strictly G L4 manual transmission fluid however some have said that the new versions of G L4/G L5 gear oils Are OK to use because they aren't as corrosive to the syncros in the transmission. Do you have any advice as to preferably which gear oil to stick with and which one do you use if you have a manual transmission
Thank you That was a really good video... I'm sure you've probably been asked this before .. including myself .. can you clarify.what you dis with the drop links .. ? Thanks once again
With this lift setup, does it have a raked look? Unfortunately, you never show us a side profile view of your truck so I can’t see what the finished product looks like. Also, you should have a list of part numbers of every part you used and needed for this setup to make it easy for us to know exactly what we need to order. You mentioned something that needs to be welded? But I’m trying to figure out what that is and/or if it’s necessary!?
Well, better is a realtive term. What I mean is, there isn't a huge stopping power difference, but with the heavier duty rotors the heat resistance is greatly increase causing less issues forsure. If your due for brakes it's well worth it.
Does anybody know where I can get extended rear shocks for my 1999 3rd gen?!??? I’ve searched far and wide and everything is back ordered. I’ll settle for any brand that will accommodate the 2” lift I’m getting with the OME springs I’ll be putting on. Desperately Seeking Rear Shocks. Thx.
I did not see you replacing the brake lines for longer ones. I lifted my 96 Limited just like you did, with Bilstein 5100's and Old Man Emu springs front and rear and someone told me I also needed to replace the brake lines for longer ones because now I am at risk of bursting them wiht the added height. In your opinion, are the longer brake lines really needed? Thanks for your advise!!
What do you think of the 891 omu front 890 rear with bilstein 5100 will it sit higher in the back. And do you think I should add a spacer. I might have a chance to switch the order to the 883. The 3rd gen is bone stock. Thanks KB. Great content you have going.
With the 5100s you'll have the adjustment you'll need. Depends which front setting you use I doubt it will be higher in the back. A little of rake is good though if you plan to haul camping gear etc... it will sag or settle a bit eventually over a few months in the rear. Good luck 👍
Im going with the same OME springs on front and back with 5100’s. For 3inches of lift should i just leave the shocks on the factory setting of 0 lift? Would you recommend leaving my rear sit a half inch higher so when its fully loaded the truck sits evenly by using spacers? I have 33 inch tires and i dont want to rub ( i dont mind cutting). Long term i want to of course upgrade control arms and shocks but i want to use this setup or something similar to save money while i work on other things. Also what did you use to correct the driver lean?
Curious what setting you ended up with for the front perch. I'm debating between 2nd and 3rd slots. I have the 890s in the back and leaning towards third slot so the front sits about half inch lower or close to even with the rear.
Theyre not the best, but bang for buck can't be beat. 6112 have been hard to come by at times. From what I've been told by others they aren't a big jump above 5100s.
Curious as to what you did with the sway bar links. Also, any issues with the brake lines? I will be doing a lift on my 3rd gen that should be about 2.5-3".
Thanks unfortunately no, Ive done it many times though. Pulling the axle is the easy part that takes the most time. From there you could just drop it off at the machine shop. they usually dont charge very much too much to swap in a new bearing and seal for you.
Ok thanks. Do you think I can run 265 75 16 stock rims on a stock 1999. I don't do heavy offroading and need tires soon. Eventually in a few months I'll get the whole lift kit setup but do you think for the time being I should clear basic offroad obstacles??
You need more subs!
That's what I think too, haha. Send a bunch over, lol.
Great information! Currently rebuiling my transmission then after replace the old suspension.
Great video. I stumbled across this video doing a google search. I’m surprised it hasn’t gone viral yet as these 3rd gens are in demand!
I have a similar setup with Bilstein 5100s front and rear. I’m currently running 17x7.5 oem tacoma wheels with 265/65r17 tires. I also have oem upper control arms. The upper
Control arm is about half an inch away from the tire. If I go with a 16x8 wheel with your same tire size of 285/75r16 what offset do I need in order to clear the upper control arms? I heard you mention an offset of -6 with your setup. I don’t have fender flares as mine is just an SR5. Would a 0 offset clear the upper control arms or would I have to go with your setup of a -6 offset? Appreciate the help brother.
I have a 97 4runner and I'm just about to do exactly this.
Thanks.. Very informative.. Your videos really giving me ideas for my 96 3rd gen.... Please can you recap what you did for the drop links... Much appreciated
I'm in Scotland.. Getting good info on these is hard..3rd gen Getting as rare as unicorn dung..
Tires and lift look great! I’m running same springs/shocks but with 265/75/16. Thinking about upgrading to 285/70/16. Does the truck feel sluggish? Do you feel it needs to be re-geared or there really is no difference? Any feedback greatly appreciated. Thanks
No real need for me, stock 4:30's. Really doesnt feel bad at all.
I wished i wasn't getting ANY rubbing on mine, BUTTTTT i have 3" spacers and 285/70/17 tires and rims
Great stuff! Thanks for covering this (as a follow up to your earlier video). As a newbie to 3rd Gen T4R and all of the mods to consider (lift, suspension, etc.), this is very helpful. Those Cooper STT's look awesome! I'd love to get some for my '98, but they're a little pricey (and I don't do much off-roading yet). How do they perform in snow?
Good to hear, thanks. They seemed to be ok. I went out twice in heavy snow. In the softer fresh it was good. In older icy snow, still slippery but that's to be expected i geuss.
Hi Sir nice video thanks for good info I lifted mine with bilsteins and ome all around and my rig feels like it’s going to fall apart when I’m on the freeway something is not right do you have any advice thank you in advance
What wheel spacers don’t you recommend?
Really like your channel.
I have 881 up front and thinking of swapping out the OME shocks to Bilsteins and raising them to the 2nd perch to clear bumper and 33' , what r your thoughts, thx
Thank you. I dont see any reason not to. Obviously just make sure the back is high enough. The nice part is being able to adjust the seat.
@@Beacon_Offroad wow thx for your quick reply,btw did u ever install the SPC,s if so what r your thoughts say in comparison to Total Chaos uniballs, thx
@@adamh2837 we install and more importantly align lots of toyotas at the shop. The clear advantage of spc's is the extra adjustability. Because of the upper camber and caster movement you can put your lower cams in max position giving you more rear tire clearance. We usually install 333 fab cam lockout kit. For this reason there the obvious choice for me..
@@Beacon_Offroad thx again
So I think you will be the perfect person to ask as you run both suspensions im looking at. Looking at the OME/5100 lift and the Dobinson lift you did on your tacoma (I have a 2nd gen tacoma). I was wanting to know your opinion on which lift you like better on/off road/load capacity, quality etc. I know there is price point difference but not important. Either way the packs will be replaced for what I need. Thanks
Well, both perform great. I think if youre more budget conscience go Bilstein. But if you have some money to spend, Id go even further and go remote reservoir type stuff. For my Tacoma I have no regrets but wish I would have just went all out from the beginning, lol.
Newby to your channel and liking the content very much! I have the same color 99 SR5 (no diff locks however) as my ride in Costa Rica. So fun cruising the back roads in search of rivers and waterfalls. I'm a fellow BC'er that spends time there and slowly doing similar modes. Unfortunately the mechanics down there are not as skilled as you. Looking forward to viewing future videos. Pura Vida!
Costa rice, that's probably pretty nice there. I actually don't much about it.
@@Beacon_OffroadC.R. is different but similar to Costal BC. It has rainforests that are lush green, lots of rivers to cross, slippery volcanic mud and beautiful beaches you are allowed to camp on. A 4wd drive is almost mandatory if you want to go off pavement. The 4runner is a classic there and parts are readily available. They hold there value too. I paid $10K USD for mine 2 years ago. Put nearly $4K USD in repairs and upgrades. I could still sell it for $10K USD. Wish I had it here for the summer months. Thanks for connecting and I will be watching for future videos!
@@tonyjovanovic9259 well that sounds pretty awesome. Sounds good 👍
Thank goodness for this video. Sooo helpful
How well did the 883s go onto the 5100s? Ome says 883s won’t work on anything but their brand strut. Do they fit well on the coil seats? And where did you get your top hats for the coil overs?
Hey, everybody and there dog has put ome coils on 5100s. It's been done a million times. I'm not sure but I think you're misinformed. Either way there's absolutely no issue with fitment. The top hats are aftermarket replacements by Monroe, virtually any parts will have or get you them.
Great video bro! Very informative 👍🏽
Thanks homie
I've rewatched a few times. It's been about 10 months and you've done a bunch of trails,
How are axels and boots doing?
Still no issues. Boots still looking good, especially for a 97.
How’s your tire rods and bearings now?
Good, no iissues.
@@Beacon_Offroad
🤔hmm
I’ve been a bit reluctant about sizing up because of that thought, considering the new weight of the tires and wheels. I’ve also heard people needing to regear, when they run a larger setup.
Do you think that fitment would be appropriate on my 3rd Gen then?
Currently, I have Bilstein 6112s in the front with SPC control arms, and Bilstein B8 5160s in the rear, giving me about a 2.5” lift.
I was wondering if you were gonna replace the upper control arms? I’m about to buy a lift and the arms are $600 more. Do you think they should be replaced?
Well my truck is proof yiu don't absolutely have to. Mines working great without Them and the alignments good. That being said, I bought them and going to replace them on my truck, just cause.
Your rear is only rubbing the one side because of your pan hard bar. Maybe when you get the other bracket on it won't do it.
It got done eventually and still rubs a touch on that side. I'd say its more to do with being over flexed. I recently did a travel test without springs in to check fitment for 34s. Definitely need bumps stops to limit travel and some bumper triming.
Thanks for the walk arounds and detailed info on the 4runners.
Nice video, going to be installing my own 883s tomorrow. I have the 891s out back and want the truck to sit level if not a tiny bit of rake. Which preload setting did you put your snap ring on on your front shocks?
Thanks
Thanks, mine is set at bottom. No preload.
@@Beacon_Offroad thanks for the quick answer! Following your mods from across the straight in Victoria!
@@seancurrie9399 sounds good. Gotta some cool stuff coming up.
I hope you install more mods on your 3rd gen and share it on your channel! I recently bought me one same year 97! I have a question though! Why most people prefer the SR5 model over the limited one to mod?
Definitely more mods coming. I would say the exact opposite more limited than sr5s.
@@Beacon_Offroad I personally think the sr5 body looks sharper than the limited, you can see it clearly on the fender flares, the limited model looks more bulky
How would you correct the driver's side lean?
@TJ_ONLY upper strut trim spacer or run an adjustable strut. We typically add a bit more preload on all drivers' front struts.
The flat spots could be from under inflation. Your LT conversion should put you at 40 to 42 psi cold. But not the best off road pressures.
I dont think so. Ive tried a few different pressures with the same result. It happen to certain compound tires.
I took stock....and thank you for the info!
I have a question for you. Was wondering if you can help me out. I have a 3rd Gen. runner manual transmission 4 cylinder 2.7. I understand a lot of people go with the red line G L4 gear oil for the transmission fluid. And a lot of people don't recommend the standard G L5 that autozone sells Because of the extra sulfur that damages the synchros. However there are some that autozone now sales that says for requirements G L4 and G L5 but don't know if that is safe to use. Some people say just to stick with strictly G L4 manual transmission fluid however some have said that the new versions of G L4/G L5 gear oils Are OK to use because they aren't as corrosive to the syncros in the transmission. Do you have any advice as to preferably which gear oil to stick with and which one do you use if you have a manual transmission
Does he not sound like RDJ?
Thank you
That was a really good video... I'm sure you've probably been asked this before .. including myself .. can you clarify.what you dis with the drop links .. ?
Thanks once again
With this lift setup, does it have a raked look? Unfortunately, you never show us a side profile view of your truck so I can’t see what the finished product looks like. Also, you should have a list of part numbers of every part you used and needed for this setup to make it easy for us to know exactly what we need to order. You mentioned something that needs to be welded? But I’m trying to figure out what that is and/or if it’s necessary!?
When you did the tundra brake upgrade. How much better is it?
Well, better is a realtive term. What I mean is, there isn't a huge stopping power difference, but with the heavier duty rotors the heat resistance is greatly increase causing less issues forsure. If your due for brakes it's well worth it.
Does anybody know where I can get extended rear shocks for my 1999 3rd gen?!??? I’ve searched far and wide and everything is back ordered. I’ll settle for any brand that will accommodate the 2” lift I’m getting with the OME springs I’ll be putting on. Desperately Seeking Rear Shocks. Thx.
Great video! :) I will upgrade my T4R 2000 to 285/75/16 with a 3+ lift kit!!! Cant wait
Hello from Quebec, good info here for my '97 Limited build !
Bonjour Laurentian.
was waiting for this video! cant wait to start tinkering with my 2002
Great in depth review. Looking to lift my 3rd gen in the future.
Thanks David.
I got 17x9 rims What offset wheels should I use if I want spacers? Would -12 work?
So you had to trim for wheeling but do you have to trim bumper if you’re just on the road not full flexing?
I did not see you replacing the brake lines for longer ones.
I lifted my 96 Limited just like you did, with Bilstein 5100's and Old Man Emu springs front and rear and someone told me I also needed to replace the brake lines for longer ones because now I am at risk of bursting them wiht the added height. In your opinion, are the longer brake lines really needed?
Thanks for your advise!!
they dont really stretch on 4runners. I did min anyways though because they were old. th-cam.com/video/sYNTePbJilo/w-d-xo.html
@@Beacon_Offroad Thanks Kelly!! So, if I want them replaced, the front should be OEM size lines and the rear with a longer, 19 in, right?
@@rubenbolanos7379 yes correct.
Do you still have the driver side bumper plastic trim?
GREAT VIDS BOSS, question... did u ended up replacing the rear springs? im woundering because im getting sag with heavy loads.. thanks in advance
Ive actually tried a few different springs but at this point i actually forget the numbers now, im sorry.
Great video
Sweet rigs!
How did u get the antenna to stay down?
th-cam.com/video/kZEPeiZeFQ0/w-d-xo.html check out 10:44
What do you think of the 891 omu front 890 rear with bilstein 5100 will it sit higher in the back. And do you think I should add a spacer. I might have a chance to switch the order to the 883. The 3rd gen is bone stock. Thanks KB. Great content you have going.
With the 5100s you'll have the adjustment you'll need. Depends which front setting you use I doubt it will be higher in the back. A little of rake is good though if you plan to haul camping gear etc... it will sag or settle a bit eventually over a few months in the rear. Good luck 👍
Im going with the same OME springs on front and back with 5100’s. For 3inches of lift should i just leave the shocks on the factory setting of 0 lift? Would you recommend leaving my rear sit a half inch higher so when its fully loaded the truck sits evenly by using spacers? I have 33 inch tires and i dont want to rub ( i dont mind cutting). Long term i want to of course upgrade control arms and shocks but i want to use this setup or something similar to save money while i work on other things. Also what did you use to correct the driver lean?
Curious what setting you ended up with for the front perch. I'm debating between 2nd and 3rd slots. I have the 890s in the back and leaning towards third slot so the front sits about half inch lower or close to even with the rear.
hi kelly! how do you like the 5100 in the long term? do you ever think getting 6112 instead?
Theyre not the best, but bang for buck can't be beat. 6112 have been hard to come by at times. From what I've been told by others they aren't a big jump above 5100s.
Curious as to what you did with the sway bar links. Also, any issues with the brake lines? I will be doing a lift on my 3rd gen that should be about 2.5-3".
In the install vid, he moved front links to back bar and used 2nd gen front links for the front. But you'll have to double check and confirm.
Looks like you have a leaky cv joint boot on that driver side?
You'd be wrong. We're months later now and still perfect.
Nice video. Are your diffs stock gearing? If so are they any issues with the tire size swap?
Thanks.
auto limited with lockers is stock 4:30's. Its fairly decent still at 33's
Did you feel the need to re-gear
Did you ever install a panhard drop?
I shows it and talk about it in this video at 6:35. I welded in on side of it.
@@Beacon_Offroad oh shit I missed it thanks!
Nice 👍🏽
I have 891s on the the rear planning to put 883s on the front how much exactly the lift gave with those springs?
I dont know exactly but about 3"
@@Beacon_Offroad How’s the ride quality?
@@tobydee5817 it's decent. I feel it's perfectly fine for the age of the vehicle, mods etc...
Thanks!
Great video. Do you have any videos on rear axel seal replacements.
Thanks unfortunately no, Ive done it many times though. Pulling the axle is the easy part that takes the most time. From there you could just drop it off at the machine shop. they usually dont charge very much too much to swap in a new bearing and seal for you.
How do those 883s ride with no weight up front
Perfect. No complaints at all. In reality I basically coulnt tell when I added my winch.
@@Beacon_Offroad nice I just ordered 5100s with 883s and 891s in the rear cause I plan to add weight. Glad to hear it rides good
Are you able to use the 13wl calipers with those wheels for the TBU?
I second that, what’s your verdict?
Oh I see it , my bad…yes you could fit the wheel with 13wl on it
@@joshuasilalahi5680 yeah they fit,I bought a set of these wheels and the 13wls they’re on my truck now
Do you have a part number for the sway bar end links
No I don't. But numerous brands will make them. Check out this video and have a look in the description. th-cam.com/video/HKz7MhH9TQc/w-d-xo.html
Ok thanks. Do you think I can run 265 75 16 stock rims on a stock 1999. I don't do heavy offroading and need tires soon. Eventually in a few months I'll get the whole lift kit setup but do you think for the time being I should clear basic offroad obstacles??
@@mrgpomona420 Probably. May need to do the lite trimming i did .