6 Speed Semi-Automatic gearbox Fault Diagnostics on Peugeot 508
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ส.ค. 2024
- Hello everyone, in todays video I have a 2011 Peugeot 508 1.6E-HDI 6Speed Semi-automatic with a ,,Gearbox Fault : Repair needed" message coming up on a dash. So I will run some test to come to conclusion what is actually wrong with it in this video. If you do have semi auto gearbox fault I hope you will find this video help full. In a video I am using DIAGBOX V07.57.
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Excellent !! Very informative video mate. Learning alot from your diagnostics. Cheers 👍
Thank you mate I am glad you find it Interasting.
Excellent job.. and you should maybe teach us how to read the live data.. I bought diagbox and your videos been helping me so much I have a Rcz
Thank you mate I really appreciate you like a video. I will look in to doing more Diagbox tutorials.
Thank you, so perfecty presented trouble shooting!!
Bravo
Very good video and very well explained! Keep it up mate 👍 thanks!
Thank you mate
Awesome. Keep up the good work.
Thank you.
Excellent video! Is possible to see mileage via Diagbox ?
Hi, great video. I would like to ask what Obd2 interface you use to connect to a USB on your laptop. A link would be rally useful.
Thanks in advance.
Software is called Diagbox and I have bought it from ebay. I received 2 CDs and cables. It has quite a few versions. There is a Facebook group dedicated for this software where they can answer all your questions
Hi, great video. I have a 508 and was fault alerts and service light coming and going for months, this started after leaving car parked for 6 weeks and I fear battery voltage and ecu have played a part. Although the car started fine when I returned from holidays.
Recently the fault alert comes in every time engine starts and service light stays on all the time. My Obd2 shows no faults but this week car displayed a gearbox warning fault before going away again. Could this simply be the battery being low and the ecu registering a gearbox fault that just needs clearing. Car runs perfectly and gearbox smooth.
Sorry for the detail but thought I would seek your experience.
Regards Craig (Australia)
Hi bud I noticed on your laptop you can do a calibration test for the clutch and clutch point have you tryed a values reset and recalibrate. Also have you pulled a sample of oil to see what it's like bud try all the little things still and you never know
Will try to use more options tommorow
One maybe somewhat odd question - would a 2007 Peugeot/Citroen EGS semi-automatic gearbox have any safety mechanisms to prevent accidentally putting into reverse when moving forward at a considerable speed?
Well I would imagine that a gearbox ecu would prevent that from happening
What kit is for this car? VALEO 837522 Clutch Kit vill fit??
Hi, what do the numbers on citroen grand c4 picasso 2014, semi manual gearbox tcu mean? When changing, do all numbers need to match?
I am sorry bro I don't know the answer but from my experience most of numbers have to match apart of production date
Hello ..have a nice day....mine 508 hdi 2011 semi automatic gearbox have some lick but thats not the problem i replace flywheel and clutch but a few days ago starts to switch from a1 to m2 and then goes to a2...no errors find on diagnostic device..may you have any Idea? What's the problem?
Hi friend, I own Peugeot 308 1.6 eHDi 2012. My gearbox can’t automatic gear up. The fault code have P0944, P1716. Could you give me some suggestions for the problem? Thank you!
Not sure what codes mean I had a different codes then Cluch was going all I can say is if its a semi auto then it turns off gears if you get gearbox error and error could be couse by anything. Most of the time is a slipping Cluch causing a gearbox to give gearbox faulty message and gears disappear. Get it scanned with Diagbox that's the only software wich will show you exact problem. Or atleast will give you better idea on a problem
I have a question, coz I just recently bought a 2011 Peugeot 508. It has cost me so much more in repair than the car itself. First the clutch had to be changed, and now my car is back in the workshop after 4 months. Now the problem is the gearbox actuator, they said there is a leak, and now just waiting for the part to come. I was advised by a mechanic to never drive it in automatic but rather in manual mode so that my car would last longer and work better. Is this true or what? Then what is the point of it having an automatic mode, if I would need to use the manual mode for it to live longer?
Hi mate these semi automatic gearboxes are rubbish my advice would be fix the car and sell it and get manual. I now have 1.6Hdi 508 with 5 speed manual and it drives lovely. 1.6 Ehdi with 6 speed semi automatic gearbox is just horrible invention. I don't think it will make any difference if you drive in auto or manual if it will decide to cause problems then it will regardless. Actuator leaks are common to leak. Normally it's a plastic hose between actuator hidraulic fluid reservoir and actuator. Hope it's a easy fix. These cars seem to eat clutches much faster then a normal manual ones aswell. There is a fully auto option aswell I believe on some 2.0hdi 508s wich is much more reliable aswell but 1.6hdi with 5 speed or 2.0 hdi with 6 speed are just proper solid boxes and last ages
Will probably just keep the car for a couple more years and then scrap it and maybe buy another brand. I am not impressed with Peugeot at all. Just complete garbage really.
Where did u get the cable for the ECU and what software and where do I get it ?thanks?
Hi mate a software is called Diagbox, my one is an old version V07.59 . You order a diagbox with lexia from ebay and you get cable and 1 or 2 CDs then you install it to the laptop preferably a old Windows xp or 7 but older versions like V07. 59 works on Windows 10 aswell and you have yourself a scanner for your car.
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Hi having the same issue with a friends Van Peugeot Expert 2018, can you recommend anyone that can fit it in London?
In london i dont know anyone specialising in it. Try to have a look at DKmotorgroup.co.uk these guys they specialise with these engines and gearboxes and prices are good but its not in london
Hi. I have Peugeot 3008 with exactly same issue. The garage replaced clutch flywheel and the actuator but. The could not program the gear and gets error P1734 gearbox Actuator Position Signal In The Gear Selection Axis Short Circuit To earth. We put the old bearings like you but still have the problem. Any idea how to solve this problem
Have you solved the problem?
P1800? Delphi, checks the gears and after you have to run the engine to finish calibration it says calibration failed. Any ideas?
Hi mate the only time i had calibration failed is then something was not right normally it calibrates straight away
I have a similar issue on a Peugeot 3008 2011 EGC semi-auto. Only difference is sometimes car runs fine, with smooth gear changes in all 6 gears. Any thoughts? Any help would be appreciated
Need to get it scanned. If it's a issue which you get only sometimes then it might some electric connector on a actuator or even actuator hidraulic fluid level. My car would shift in every gear but a Cluch was fried so it would just slip and wouldn't drive.
@@Mad4FrenchCars Tried to scan it last night with The Torque ELM 327 Bluetooth app, but then the battery went flat. Seen on some Peugeot forums people saying a weak battery could actually lead to such faults, so will change battery and trya Nd do the scan again. The software and connector you are using can that be purchased off eBay or Amazon, link would be appreciated
@@YellowFever4ever hi mate yes you can get Diagbox from ebay it's like a 2 CDs and install on your laptop also you get cable. If you go on ebay just search Diagbox it will come up with quite a few. It works best on Windows xp or 7 but if you can put it on a virtual drive then you can use on Windows 10 aswell. Regarding a battery I have come to conclusion that battery does have a influence on semi auto boxes. For The 508 I am currently putting together I will put new battery aswell as I think these boxes are quite dependant on battery power.
@@Mad4FrenchCars I changed the battery and it worked fine for a week, but now the fault is back again, but not just gearbox anymore, it's flagging a parking brake and engine fault. Codes I managed to erase via Torque elm were U0073, U0103, and P1767. I looged a trip I did via Torque elm, where I got all six gear changes multiple times. I was wondering if there is a way to share the CSV files with you to see what you make of the Revs Vs Speed, just to rule out any clutch slipping. I have a strong feeling I have an issue with my ECU and not the gearbox.
@@YellowFever4ever best way to rule out a Cluch is to read live data personalised parameters under gearbox via Diagbox and see if it shows slipping. What battery did you get as if you have stop start it would have to be stop start battery.
Hi great video can anyone help ? i have c4 picasso 1.6 thp petrol with semi auto egs gearbox now when it goes from 1st to 2nd theres a clunk noise ? its the same when it changes from 3rd down to 2nd all other gear changes are fine ? ive read that reflashing the gearbox can help this im not sure what that is or how you go about it im no mechanic theres no warnings coming up on dashboard thou my c4 has had new abs sensors fitted as well as new front and rear discs and pads fitted so i know all the magnetic rings are new can anyone help many thanks in advance !!
Hi mate my advice would probably be to find someone with diagbox and get your gearbox reprogrammed. Also i would check to make sure gearbox actuator is not leaking anywhere.
I have the same issue: gearbox fault, repair needed. But it comes only sometimes, maybe in 1 of 10 starts. I try to restart engine several times, and after around 15 minutes gear can be selected and car drives fine! Any idea what's wrong? (Peugeot 508 2011)
I would start from checking things like battery it might be old and these do affect semi auto gearbox. Another thing to check would be gearbox actuator fluid level, and also little visual inspection to see if there is no visual fluid leaks. If battery is good and actuator fluids seem to be fine. Then I would plug Diagbox and scan the car for codes as even if it doesn't come up now it will be stored and that would help to find out what could be wrong with it.
I have the same problem. Notification "gearbox fault" poped out last week, and I didnt see it properly so I ignored it. Few minutes ago the same happend so I'll go to mechanic tomorrow. Have you repaired it? What should I expect :-) ?
Hello, I have same problem. My car is 508 manufactured 2013. To first start the car sometimes said ‘gearbox is fault, repair needed. But sometimes it’s running without problem. did you solve this problem ? If you solved, how did you ? Please help me :) thanks
I have this exact same problem. Sometimes will run the entire day perfectly. But in 6am in the morning, PRND: Gearbox Repair is shown. No idea what the problem is - but one thing I know for sure is that it isn't a gearbox problem.
Another source for this problem could be the generator. A friend with a 508 got this problem, and the car let him only switch to maximum 3rd gear. After replacing the generator, the car worked fine.@@urimkrasniqi6975
Hi. I have 508sw 2012 1.6 e-hdi no errors on the dash or in diagnostic. The problem is i have new clutch and auomatic berring assy changed on 250.000km now i have 290.000km and it slips when i accelerate. It slip between 2000 and 3000 rpm. In 3,4,5 and 6, gear.
Sounds like who ever installed a new Cluch didn't program it properly. It could also be other issues such as a cranck shaft seal from gearbox side hasn't been replaced during Cluch replacement and now it contaminated Cluch with oil. Or it could be something else, I would get it scanned with Diagbox as sometimes some faults doesn't show up on a dash but it's stored in a ecu.
Just to confirm is it manual or semi auto? As ehdi can be manual aswell as the ehdi means you have stop start. If it's manual then it's not that many things that can be wrong but if it's semi automatic then it could be a whole range of things. It's strange that it doesn't slip on lower gears.
@@Mad4FrenchCars is a semi auto. Tomorow i will make new learning process. I need to find an open road for this.
@@Mad4FrenchCars diagnostic say there are no learning values. So i think the mehanic just swaped parts ad doid not lerarn the gearbox how to shift. Lucky i have may own diagbox. During the proces: accelerate to 2.gear-stop (3x) wait 5min repeat the whole proces.... can i put in reverse and turn around?? Can't find free road for this.
@@TheSilvo20 ya most likely the mechanic just replace parts I would recommend to do a gear learning and then for a Cluch bitting point learning 90% of cases is not successful as battery power alone is not enough usually so I would get some hook up power stabiliser if you can't manage but you should be able to hopefully
hi i wanted to change the oil in my peugeot but the official peugeot garage told me not to do it so im confused the car is a 508 2.2l 2011 215000km
and i started to having some issues , 1 and 2 gear sometimes i feel like its sufering untill it gets to the 3rd and when i accelerate hard, it doesent change the gears or it takes to much time what would you sugesst ?
Hi mate is your 2.2 a full auto transmission? I am not familiar with 2.2 set up but I am prity sure that you do need to change a gearbox oil even on a fully automatic boxes the only difference is a process itself is different. Peugeot say its a oil for life inside them but that is nonsense as I think the different is manual gearbox oil should be changed every 40k miles for best results and same with semi auto. Full auto boxes oil last around 130k - 140k miles so much longer but still it's not life time
@@Mad4FrenchCars hi, it is semi automatic i supose it has the flops behind the steering wheel M + - and it has now 215000 km never changed i dont know if it worth the risk to do it now 😓
@@rinor3681 I would find a specialist Peugeot garage not a dealer and speak to someone about gearbox oil change. If it's a semi auto then the gearbox oil change its not a problem it's as simple as replacing a manual gearbox oil however hidraulic actuator controlling gears use a specific hidraulic fluid wich needs most of the time only topping. Fluid replacement is possible aswell but you need someone with Diagbox software to do it as it needs to depresurise a system and the pressurise it also do multiple system bleeding to make sure there is no air in a system
@@Mad4FrenchCars thank you , the garage told me not to do it already spoke to them life time they said ….
@@rinor3681 that sounds like they don't know what they talking about if you starting to experience a problems with a gears then it's a prity good indicator oil needs changing. I would ask a few garage opinion as the ones who say its life long oil I wouldn't go to them. In Peugeot 407 UK group there is loads of guys who know how to replace oil on 2.2 boxes it might be worth joining the group and ask I know you have 508 not 407 but boxes might still be same. As 1.6hdi 407 and early 508 is basicly same under the hood same with 2.0hdi
Where did you buy DIAGBOX? can you share the link. Thank you
I bought mine from ebay
how depressurized de gearbox for change the clutch?
To depressurize a gearbox hydraulic system you have to go to gearbox section on DIAGBOX and chose repair then choose gearbox programming and choose depressurise a hydraulic circuit DIAGBOX does it by itself once you choose the option. After Clutch replacement you need to pressurise the system again and sometimes run a bleeding setting and also need to program a gearbox. nothing major as DIAGBOX does it itself things like a gear learning also clutch biting point. one thing to mention some cars require a economy mode to be deactivated to perform depressurization.
@@Mad4FrenchCars thx but my bosh dont have depressure hydraulic only test gearbox
@@technics.radu01 I am not familiar with bosh system, I am working with Diagbox mainly as I only work on French cars.
@@technics.radu01 if it doesnt have depresurise option then its not gonna be able to pressurise it either. Need to get different diagnostic software otherwise you can't really tell gearbox ecu after job done to learn a new values
can you tell me which sw u use please?
Hi mate I have 2009 407 sw 2.0HDI I had many 407 1.6hdis also just sold a 508 1.6ehdi but sedan not sw and have 2.0hdi RCZ at the momment
After i changed the clutch i got an issue with the actuator which cannot build up a good hydraulic pressure. Max pressure i get is between 16 to 18 bars thats why the electropump motor is on all the time while the ignition is on trying to build up the desired pressure. I looked up for leaks but couldnt find any. Any ideas guys?
The presure is deffinatelly low. It does sound like a leak somewhere or maybe need to bleed a system with diagbox few times. Then you installed a hidraulic slave have you pressed it and put some hidraulic fluid in it while releasing to fill it up with fluid. If you havent then maybe you have some air in a system. I would try to bleed it with diagbox to try to get rid off air if its any in a system. Very hard to advise without seing it but its either a leak or a air in a system. I dont think it would be anything to do with actual actuator.
Try to blead it few times also try to actuate cluch with diagbox aswell maybe that could help to air it out aswell. If there is no obvious leaks then i would try to do that. Have you connected a hidraulic slave sleve and high presure tube with metal clip? Let me know how it goes mate. I have done one myself today on a 2013 3008 just havent finished yet but curious to know what happen with yours.
@@Mad4FrenchCars Thank God i found the problem. It was the little pump that couldnt push enough oil through. I had another one in the garage, i swaped them and the system was pressurising again succefully. These gearboxes mysteries never end. Thank you for your reply
@@marocautofix5555 well done mate good job
Hi all. Anyone got Peugeot specialist in Leicester or nearest area?
Gearbox is working only manually, first three gears, 4th 5th 6th gear missing. Car got replaced clutch 3 months ago, suddenly only drives in first 3 gears 😮
Hi mate i would recommend you a DKmotorgroup.co.uk these guys they do amazing job and very fair priced. They specialise is semi automatic gearboxes and french cars.
@@Mad4FrenchCars Will contact them. When successful I will let you know. Many Thanks 💪
Hy my friend.your diagbox work on windows 10?🤔
Yes it does but the only version wich works is V07.59. Other versions doesn't seem to work on it. My old laptop had xp all the updates was working fine.
@@Mad4FrenchCars y have 7.82 works great on win 7
@@bmarian9357 that's more then enough for most of models
@@Mad4FrenchCars Hi cracking video btw. 9.91 works via vm on 64bit windows 10
@@MarkWilliams-fb1no thank you mate, I will note it down it would be nice to get later update on mine.
When this happens you just sit and cry :)
I just got 3008 with exactly same simptoms.
@@Mad4FrenchCars Does this applies to Aisin AT6 III
@@la_ki yes mate same gearbox in 508, 3008 DS3 and many more cars
@@Mad4FrenchCars Not really, as 508 II have the full automatik, and 508 I semi-automatic :)
@@la_ki I am talking about 508 with semi auto. Can I help you in any way? I have done countless Cluch replaces on these boxes since this video and now I find it very easy
How to fix code P0842
I am not really sure I don't think I ever had this fault code. Is it a code coming on Diagbox or a generic code reader. Couse sometimes it can be for a different things depends on what is been scanned with
@@Mad4FrenchCars Hi, read from Diagbox for Citroën grand c4 picasso ehdi. Oil pressure signal fault
@@bobson5361 it's a semi automatic right? I am just thinking if this particular fault related to actual gearbox oil or actuator fluid. If its actuator fluid then I would start from checking actuator for obvious leaks and also see how much oil is in a actuator reservoir. As it might be low on oil struggling to build a presure. What other simptoms do you have does the car drive at all how does the gear change feel?
@@Mad4FrenchCars Hi, started by showing gearbox faulty, changed the clutch plate, pressure plate and slave cylinder but had an issue during pressurizing, only to realise the pump wasn't functioning well. So imported the pump, changed the actuator fluid, the gearbox oil too and there was pressure build up, did gearbox programming and vehicle moved, but after driving for about 20km, gearbox went to manual then ultimately neutral and had to reset by removing battery terminal for it to move again. So it keeps loosing pressure when driving and has the P0842 as a permanent error
@@bobson5361 what kind of actuator fluid did you use?
1100 pounds for a new clutch at 100000 miles 2012 model 😮😮😮😮😮😮
If you do it yourself will probably cost you around 500 with 4 piece cluch kit with dmf and hidraulic fluid, gearbox oil. 1100 is reasonable for a job to be done.
I payed 2324,99
@@Mad4FrenchCars I thought so ….. independent gearbox garages nearby quoted around 850….. I paid a little extra with independent main dealer
@@andriandrason1318 pounds ??
@@Mad4FrenchCars don’t think I’ve had the gearbox oil done yet … is it worth it