I honestly think that JJJ is Spider-Man's biggest ally even when he hates him, because he unintentionally keeps him from crossing the line and becoming a killer. He just hates the mask, not the person doing the job. Every time Peter is unmasked to JJJ he almost always immediately understands why he wears it.
I would love to calculate who would win now. As hulk and Spider-Man both have different abilities. Hulk can over Spider-Man but Spider-Man can over come hulk both of them in many different ways. Interesting isn't it?
The thing with Wolverine is intentional. Peter was having a rough time of it. So Wolverine hits on MJ to intentionally piss off Peter. Because Wolverine can take any punishment that Pete can dish out. Luke Cage says all this to Logan, but Logan just brushes him off.
That’s because no matter how strong Peter is, regardless if he was holding back or not. He ain’t strong enough to break Longan’s Adamintium coated skeleton. He survived ruffles with the Hulk nearly regularly(and he is VASTLY stronger then Peter every can be on either he’s good day or bad day) and a ground zero nuclear explosion, point blank.
Exactly. MJ also thanked Logan for doing it because even she figured out that Logan did that to distract Peter. I believe the public thought MJ and Tony was an item, which wasn't true, and it pissed Peter off.
@@alnu8355makes sense venom at the time was rather violent so having Frank who can channel that into brutalizing criminals would definitely give him a better bond with the symbiote and better control over it
There was a what if story though, which was titled something like "what if venom had bonded with the punisher?". An old story, an interesting one though.
Honestly I don't think Frank would. The Punisher knows he's a bad guy, when there's no scum left for him to put down he's got one bullet left for himself. He wouldn't want Peter to fall down the same road he has.
Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross. Repent and believe in him or you will be separated from God The Father for all eternity and face hell forever, for all eternity, never ending.
It makes sense in the movie. The suit gave Pete more confidence, but Peter Parker is also a total dork, so chances are he was finally acting how he thought a 'cool guy' is supposed to act.
Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross. Repent and believe in him or you will be separated from God The Father for all eternity and face hell forever, for all eternity, never ending
@@treek10k Spamming this on TH-cam comments is not what Jesus had in mind when he said spread his message. All this does is annoy non Christians and make the religion look like a bunch of trolls.
This is a good story that in retrospect has been ruined by future Symbiote stories. Going by current stories, Venom wouldn't need to kill Reed since the Symbiote holds the attributes of previous hosts. Or Carnage recently killing gods and absorbing powers. Interesting stories like this are made redundant by Marvel's current "everyone is omega level and can do everything" phase.
@@G-LukeJA but thanks to Marvel comics' current insistence of being parallel to whatever Marvel studios is pumping out and the multiverse being shoehorned into every story, everything that was self contained or a one shot is now forced I to canon. At any point this interesting portrayal of Peter Parker and Venom could be thrust into a story. I know the multiverse isn't a new concept, it's been a plot device for decades but like Mjolnir being lifted by someone other than Thor it was used sparingly or saved for major events. Now it's everywhere and that by itself isn't a bad thing, but when paired with poor writing it just seems lazy. Secret Wars for example was cool, and had some pretty sick panels, but Venom and Carnage are currently edging closer to a corner that can't be written out from. Similarly with X-Men comics. It used to be about the struggle of acceptance and opening the door to new mutants. Now everyone is omega level which makes the whole concept meaningless. The X-Men have conquered death, there are thousands of reality warping mutants, there are dozens of precognitive mutants, and more. They could go the DC route and have a "crisis" event every time stories are going nowhere, but DC have the impressive ability to write themselves right back to a stalemate all over again. It's really quite outstanding how DC manages to create multiversal events to fix their stories and then make the exact same mistakes repeatedly.
@@G-LukeJAright, but it’s a what-if comic. The only thing that’s supposed to be different from 616 is a divergence point and what follows. Previously established lore should still apply if the topic isn’t within itself a change in lore
Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross. Repent and believe in him or you will be separated from God The Father for all eternity and face hell forever, for all eternity, never ending.
@@KaineMikulas I don't understand your point. Previous lore does apply to the comic. Doesn't mean future lore for mainline comics would apply to it though it's a different continuity.
In the end johna saved peter,shows how he really cared for his photographer as it seems! Beneath all this hard shell jonah has probably a heart of gold! 😊
My favorite one is when Punisher punches Peter in the face as hard as he can, and Pete doesn't even flinch. A reminder to Frank that the only reason he ever gets one over on the big players in Marvel is because they're all going easy on him. Edit: This happened in Punisher: War Zone #1
Im just saying, i don't feel bad for any of those villains. These villains kill like 5+ innocents per crime each and peter kills like 7 city level threats and he's the monster💀
I say this as a JJK fan, this would've been cringe (mainly because it doesn't work well anywhere in this story) had it not been for the "HoldsBackMan" part. That genuinely cracked me up 😂😂
One of the best What If stories. Not only does it combine so many elements from different kinds of Marvel storytelling over the years, it even references back to the very first What If by the end.
I just want a story where peter can actually bond with the symbiote properly and become a better spiderman because of it, like always having someone to talk things through with the extra voice in his head
I remember in Civil War a time he fights Cap, he literally just glues his hand in Caps shield and takes it. Just like that. Kinda awesome moment but super sad for Cap haha
0:23 imagine a Gym Rat-man pretty much a micro hulk that can skulk around without a sound, w i t h silent -long- medium..ish range options to boot idk if that exists or what but its always been a "what if" in mind; forget berserk as you said but peter or whoever the offshoot spider would be prolongedly trained their body before and or after the spider bite, alongside more or less his normal interest (maybe abit more of a "gym bro" than stereotypical nerd but you get the idea) forget the venom suit entirely, no outside forces besides a potential ego trip (that a bad run for an equally pissed off/buffed sandman could simply put in check) leaving more than enough room for a genuine power house hero that their main fall back is simply not being so/as smart (as peter parker, scientist spidey), not so versed in so many subjects that in which widens the scope of their adaptability- probably the main Juice Spiders downside (just calling em the juice spider, not intending a bane + spider man crossover) ((though that would also be sort of insane))
Two battles. I don't remember which issues, but some time in the late 80s, Spiderman had fights against Absorbing Man/Titania and another against Firestorm.
1:11 The window was supposed to be indestructible… let that sit for a moment Also I love the way his symbiote suit looks, it needs a marvel legends figure
Ever since I saw spider man like lift an entire building I kinda just went “huh yeah he could probably just punch the rhino’s head off if he really wanted to”
10:03 im sorry but this whole story has one massive plot hole. Cant the human torch just instintly seperate venom cause his main weakness is fire nd the dude is as hot as the sun?
can't help but wonder if some aspects of this comic inspired parts of insomniac's SM2, with the suit physically altering with how much it affects peter over time and other things
An old school favorite of mine was Spiderman beating Firelord in a straight up fight. This was mid 80s as I recall. Firelord being a herald of Galactus was probably the biggest threat he beat to that point that I recall. He cuts loose with everything he has to do it.
I love your amazing videos my brother happy new years to you happy 2024 I hope you keep doing more spider-man videos and unbelievable things that happen to peter parker do some venom videos please 😊❤❤🙏🙏🙏
I've read that story when it came out, I think it was called "What if... Peter Parker kept the alien suit" or "black suit" or something like that. It was awesome, showing Spidey in a total new spotlight many people were wondering about how he'd end up. But that story was much better than anybody elses ideas, including mine.
I always say that a rogue spiderman would be extremely hard to deal with he dodges point blank bullets, moves faster than you can track, is an unorthodox combat specialist and can literally obliterate you with a punch. You’d have to send a full army in hopes of just containing him
I wouldn’t blame, Spider-Man for just one day just him killing off his villains especially what the writers did to him. Why why did they have to bring Paul why did they couldn’t have just give them a happy ending what the fuckkkkkk😢
Honestly this story is a lot like the story in Spiderman 2 for the Ps5. Peter gets the Venom Suit, stops holding back, he eventually gets it off of him but it latches onto someone else. Eventually, that person who has the suit dies.
FYI, Logan wasn’t flirting with MJ - he made a joke about how Peter shouldn’t be mad about the rumors published by the news about Tony Stark & MJ were sleeping together , and that’s when he threw him out of the so-called indestructible window in Avengers Tower.
I always wanted a alternate Spidey that was Punisher level brutal and when he was in his suit he would take on more of a Spider type persona. Quite, sneaky, brutal, like jump out of the shadows with his agility and snap a neck on the way to next shadow. Like Dexter but Spiderman.
JJJ saving Peter is wild. Always seeing the dynamic between them, a moment of genuine goodness between them is nice.
I think its a chip zdarsky thing, he wrote this, and the spectacular spider-man issue in which Peter unmasked to jj.
I honestly think that JJJ is Spider-Man's biggest ally even when he hates him, because he unintentionally keeps him from crossing the line and becoming a killer. He just hates the mask, not the person doing the job. Every time Peter is unmasked to JJJ he almost always immediately understands why he wears it.
Bruce Banner: always angry.
Peter Parker: always holding back.
Peter isnt shit compared to the Hulk
@@sonicsucks20oh boy, don't fool yourself on that one
@@sonicsucks20FACTS these spiderboy fanboys are getting out of control
I would love to calculate who would win now. As hulk and Spider-Man both have different abilities. Hulk can over Spider-Man but Spider-Man can over come hulk both of them in many different ways. Interesting isn't it?
@@Joshuamrf basically Hulk is infinitely stronger, and Peter is infinitely more of a ALL rounded fighter
If you had to fight Batman, or an angry Spider-Man, you would want to fight Batman, because Batman probably wouldn’t kill you
I think I'll rather be hurt by spiderman then be disabled by batman or retarded
imagine the medical bills tho, you're basically dead
Who would you rather face
Angry Spider-Man or bloodlusted Batman?
@@JustSaiyanDudeneither both
@@JustSaiyanDudeBloodlusted batman... Always bloodlusted batman over any version of quiet or angry spiderman.
“Your honor I did not kill. An alien did.”
"A compeling argument in did.. You are free to go!"
all 5 of them?
@@fe9335The prosecuter against this begins his villain arch
Guess his villain name 😉
@@Randomaccount9470 MILES EDGEWORTH
I didn’t him the bullet did
The thing with Wolverine is intentional. Peter was having a rough time of it. So Wolverine hits on MJ to intentionally piss off Peter. Because Wolverine can take any punishment that Pete can dish out. Luke Cage says all this to Logan, but Logan just brushes him off.
Wolverine is Canadian, what did you expect? As rude as a baguette-eating Frenchie.
That’s because no matter how strong Peter is, regardless if he was holding back or not. He ain’t strong enough to break Longan’s Adamintium coated skeleton. He survived ruffles with the Hulk nearly regularly(and he is VASTLY stronger then Peter every can be on either he’s good day or bad day) and a ground zero nuclear explosion, point blank.
Exactly. MJ also thanked Logan for doing it because even she figured out that Logan did that to distract Peter. I believe the public thought MJ and Tony was an item, which wasn't true, and it pissed Peter off.
H uh?
@ashyeahtonchane6126
The Punisher was somewhere on a rooftop wiping away his tears saying to himself, Spider made me proud.
There is a "What if...?" where Castle gets the symbiote. He's actually better able to control it.
@@alnu8355 Wait really? I would imagine that being like Agent Venom but more bloodthirsty. 🤔
@@alnu8355makes sense venom at the time was rather violent so having Frank who can channel that into brutalizing criminals would definitely give him a better bond with the symbiote and better control over it
Kingpin just CAN’T DIE BRO
My guy got that “Go go gadget indestructible head” 💀
He told people before he died
@@Imimurwalls283how thee fuck did his ass not instadie after that mortal kombat finisher
the end of the video@@Imimurwalls283
@@TheLordOfBeans *b e c a u s e o f h i s w e i g h t*
Y'all better be 🤡 😆
I really wish the Punisher was in Spider's Shadow, he'd be the one guy in Peter's corner who supports him killing.
There was a what if story though, which was titled something like "what if venom had bonded with the punisher?". An old story, an interesting one though.
Honestly I don't think Frank would. The Punisher knows he's a bad guy, when there's no scum left for him to put down he's got one bullet left for himself. He wouldn't want Peter to fall down the same road he has.
I think he would understand, but would at least try to talk sense into Peter
Spider’s Shadow was one of my favorite Spider-Man comics which actually had it’s real conclusion in the “Death of the Venomverse” storyline.
Don’t forget about the venomous seven saga.
Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross. Repent and believe in him or you will be separated from God The Father for all eternity and face hell forever, for all eternity, never ending.
@@treek10k Who gives a shit about your cult. Anyway have you heard of the REAL god Allah
@@treek10kbro I’m not trying to be disrespectful to your religion but some of us here aren’t Christian
@@treek10k Quite mercyful
Black suit in the comics: Spider-Man becomes aggressive, violent, even kills people.
Black suit in Spider-Man 3: Peter badly dances…
It makes sense in the movie. The suit gave Pete more confidence, but Peter Parker is also a total dork, so chances are he was finally acting how he thought a 'cool guy' is supposed to act.
Imma put some dirt in your eye
Correction* black suit in ‘alternate timelines make him aggressive violent and kills people’ in 616 it was never evil and loved peter.
Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross. Repent and believe in him or you will be separated from God The Father for all eternity and face hell forever, for all eternity, never ending
@@treek10k Spamming this on TH-cam comments is not what Jesus had in mind when he said spread his message. All this does is annoy non Christians and make the religion look like a bunch of trolls.
Yours isnt the only jaw that gets dropped when Spiderman lets loose ...
Scorpion in the superior Spider-Man comic:
Pretty sure that was Vulture
This is a good story that in retrospect has been ruined by future Symbiote stories. Going by current stories, Venom wouldn't need to kill Reed since the Symbiote holds the attributes of previous hosts. Or Carnage recently killing gods and absorbing powers. Interesting stories like this are made redundant by Marvel's current "everyone is omega level and can do everything" phase.
This story is not canon so u can literally just not apply mainline canon to this story
@@G-LukeJA but thanks to Marvel comics' current insistence of being parallel to whatever Marvel studios is pumping out and the multiverse being shoehorned into every story, everything that was self contained or a one shot is now forced I to canon. At any point this interesting portrayal of Peter Parker and Venom could be thrust into a story.
I know the multiverse isn't a new concept, it's been a plot device for decades but like Mjolnir being lifted by someone other than Thor it was used sparingly or saved for major events. Now it's everywhere and that by itself isn't a bad thing, but when paired with poor writing it just seems lazy. Secret Wars for example was cool, and had some pretty sick panels, but Venom and Carnage are currently edging closer to a corner that can't be written out from. Similarly with X-Men comics. It used to be about the struggle of acceptance and opening the door to new mutants. Now everyone is omega level which makes the whole concept meaningless. The X-Men have conquered death, there are thousands of reality warping mutants, there are dozens of precognitive mutants, and more.
They could go the DC route and have a "crisis" event every time stories are going nowhere, but DC have the impressive ability to write themselves right back to a stalemate all over again. It's really quite outstanding how DC manages to create multiversal events to fix their stories and then make the exact same mistakes repeatedly.
@@G-LukeJAright, but it’s a what-if comic. The only thing that’s supposed to be different from 616 is a divergence point and what follows. Previously established lore should still apply if the topic isn’t within itself a change in lore
Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross. Repent and believe in him or you will be separated from God The Father for all eternity and face hell forever, for all eternity, never ending.
@@KaineMikulas I don't understand your point. Previous lore does apply to the comic. Doesn't mean future lore for mainline comics would apply to it though it's a different continuity.
In the end johna saved peter,shows how he really cared for his photographer as it seems! Beneath all this hard shell jonah has probably a heart of gold! 😊
Reminds me of the original Spider-Man movie where Green Goblin asks JJJ who takes the photos of Spider-Man and JJJ lies and says he doesn't know.
I know that this is a "What If" story, but as a Fantastic Four fan, I was sad when Reed died when I first read it.
We ain’t gonna gloss over how badass your computer background is bro, that’s so cool
My favorite one is when Punisher punches Peter in the face as hard as he can, and Pete doesn't even flinch. A reminder to Frank that the only reason he ever gets one over on the big players in Marvel is because they're all going easy on him.
Edit: This happened in Punisher: War Zone #1
man edited this in three minutes
man did the work
@@Adealerofblackberry
Every time I look back at this storyline, I keep hearing Yuri Lowenthal’s voice as Venomized Spider-Man
Im just saying, i don't feel bad for any of those villains. These villains kill like 5+ innocents per crime each and peter kills like 7 city level threats and he's the monster💀
1:17 Guess your cat was a Wolverine fan.
"Stand proud HoldsBackMan, You are Strong."
I say this as a JJK fan, this would've been cringe (mainly because it doesn't work well anywhere in this story) had it not been for the "HoldsBackMan" part. That genuinely cracked me up 😂😂
Finally sipder man not being a menace for once.
1:16
RIP Cameraman.
Scary thing that peter can kill anyone without symbiote
Right, he’s capable of all this without the symbiote , it just brings that shit out of him.
One of the best What If stories. Not only does it combine so many elements from different kinds of Marvel storytelling over the years, it even references back to the very first What If by the end.
Bro the attention to detail and effort youre putting in these videos does not go unnoticed fr, love the small changes youre doing
MacFarlane Spidey is probably my favorite version because he's a good balance of serious with the occasional smart ass-ness
Bro has THE HARDEST computer background good lord
Spider-Man with murderous intent is definitely something we need to see more often, somehow.
At this point you gotta feel bad for the villains.
I know you do a ton of comic stuff, but it shows how We're all just Spidey Stan's.
This, *THIS* is how Insomnic should've done Spider-Man 2 PS5.
It would be too gory and dark. They would have to tone it down and find out a way to incorporate miles into it aswell.
I just want a story where peter can actually bond with the symbiote properly and become a better spiderman because of it, like always having someone to talk things through with the extra voice in his head
Yoooo the JJK wallpaper in the background goes hard 🤯🤯
I knew I recognised it
Your goofy cat moments add so much charm to the review
0:22 why does he kind of look like Bill Hader in this panel?
So true
If The Amazing Spider-Man 3 ever happens, it has to be based on Chip Zdarksy's Spider's Shadow.
And it could be that Spiderman gets depressed over Gwen's death and just loses himself which he starts to become less merciful.
Almost all villains are dead and an actually happy ending for the price of 1 shitty hero, this should be the canon timeline.
Hilarious how wolverine just gets thrown out the window by spidey 😂
I remember in Civil War a time he fights Cap, he literally just glues his hand in Caps shield and takes it. Just like that. Kinda awesome moment but super sad for Cap haha
Crew cut man with another banger👏
Honestly props on kingpin for surviving that
your car killing your camera is the most cat thing I've ever seen, love it lmaoo, also great video, ive watched it multiple times!!
car ?
Damn, your setup looks nice.
I love that JJJ saved him when he realized who he was and what was happening. He was an obnoxious blowhard at times but he wasnt a bad guy.
JJJ saved Peter Parker despite him breaking his hand. This dude is the gigachad of the Spiderman universe.
0:23 imagine a Gym Rat-man
pretty much a micro hulk that can skulk around without a sound, w i t h silent -long- medium..ish range options to boot
idk if that exists or what but its always been a "what if" in mind; forget berserk as you said but peter or whoever the offshoot spider would be prolongedly trained their body before and or after the spider bite, alongside more or less his normal interest (maybe abit more of a "gym bro" than stereotypical nerd but you get the idea)
forget the venom suit entirely, no outside forces besides a potential ego trip (that a bad run for an equally pissed off/buffed sandman could simply put in check) leaving more than enough room for a genuine power house hero that their main fall back is simply not being so/as smart (as peter parker, scientist spidey), not so versed in so many subjects that in which widens the scope of their adaptability- probably the main Juice Spiders downside (just calling em the juice spider, not intending a bane + spider man crossover) ((though that would also be sort of insane))
Two battles. I don't remember which issues, but some time in the late 80s, Spiderman had fights against Absorbing Man/Titania and another against Firestorm.
1:11
The window was supposed to be indestructible… let that sit for a moment
Also I love the way his symbiote suit looks, it needs a marvel legends figure
Holy fuck, Carnage Kingpin??
Jameson is always such a chad when he finds out Peter Parker is Spider-Man. He genuinely cares about Peter
Original Title:Spider-Man Goes Berserk
1:35 i’m eating fruity pebbles
I love when villains become good, like kraven genuinely was worried about jamason at 7:42
Drunk speedrun. Take a shot every time this guy says the word “literally”
That "Flame On" WAS SO FUCKIN.... FIRE
This might be the wholesome one yet I've heard. Eddie and Jonah teaming up with Peter Parker is amazing🔥
Appreciate the JJK background
the whole time it was on screen i was entranced by your JJK wallpaper
“A bad day spidy?” Famous last words hha
When the cat knocked the camera over😂
The black suit holding him back is straight out of The Darkness, except Jackie didn't get angry and violent so much as put a gun in his mouth.
TF can your homescreen be a literal gif? That's sick as fuck man nice
As a Spiderman fan since 1978, I can tell you only the most knowledgeable comicphiles, this is pure truth.
If spider man 2 was like this, that would be sick
During the original Secret Wars, Spider-Man beat the crap out of the X-Men, and it was only Professor X using his his mental power that stopped him.
Petey has better ending if he turns evil
amazing video from my favorite ginger 🙏
This also makes the symbiote way more terrifying
THAT WALLAPPER IS FIRE
Ever since I saw spider man like lift an entire building I kinda just went “huh yeah he could probably just punch the rhino’s head off if he really wanted to”
10:03 im sorry but this whole story has one massive plot hole. Cant the human torch just instintly seperate venom cause his main weakness is fire nd the dude is as hot as the sun?
the Symbiote suit will forever be my favorite suit on Peter
"You are my special" ahh desktop
Remember it’s not that Spider-Man doesn’t kill he *CHOOSES* not to kill
can't help but wonder if some aspects of this comic inspired parts of insomniac's SM2, with the suit physically altering with how much it affects peter over time and other things
If you do a drinking game where you take a shot for every time this guy says the word "literally", you couldnt see straight by the end of the video
Idk what I would rather go back up against a smiling Batman or a Spider-Man that doesn’t joke
“Yeah thatll do it” *camera gets rhino’d*
Zdarsky really knows how to write Spider-Man
An old school favorite of mine was Spiderman beating Firelord in a straight up fight. This was mid 80s as I recall. Firelord being a herald of Galactus was probably the biggest threat he beat to that point that I recall. He cuts loose with everything he has to do it.
I love your amazing videos my brother happy new years to you happy 2024 I hope you keep doing more spider-man videos and unbelievable things that happen to peter parker do some venom videos please 😊❤❤🙏🙏🙏
Man, so many videos of heroes killing everyone. They're gonna make the villains look like good guys.
10:54 could have done that from the start fire ball the whole building if you have too lmao
Kingpin Carnage sounds so awesome man.
I've read that story when it came out, I think it was called "What if... Peter Parker kept the alien suit" or "black suit" or something like that. It was awesome, showing Spidey in a total new spotlight many people were wondering about how he'd end up. But that story was much better than anybody elses ideas, including mine.
I always say that a rogue spiderman would be extremely hard to deal with he dodges point blank bullets, moves faster than you can track, is an unorthodox combat specialist and can literally obliterate you with a punch. You’d have to send a full army in hopes of just containing him
I should play a drinking game where i take a shot everytime you say “literally” 😂
I wouldn’t blame, Spider-Man for just one day just him killing off his villains especially what the writers did to him. Why why did they have to bring Paul why did they couldn’t have just give them a happy ending what the fuckkkkkk😢
I'll never get used to seeing Peter Parker with a beard l
Imagine how low the crime rate would be if Spider-Man had Batman’s attitude
The universe where Peter loses his willpower and succumbs to the demons
So this is basically like spider-man 3(the movie)
but a little different.
Eh not really
Drink every time he says “literally”. You’ll be drunk in minutes.
is that the jjk Shibuya incident intro on your moniter???? it’s sick as hell
He literally turned into gigachad look at his stubble and that jaw
If insomniax actually make a spider-man 2 dlc we NEED this comic's black suite in it
Honestly this story is a lot like the story in Spiderman 2 for the Ps5. Peter gets the Venom Suit, stops holding back, he eventually gets it off of him but it latches onto someone else. Eventually, that person who has the suit dies.
Harry is not dead
@@HhhjbGhvnb is he?
FYI, Logan wasn’t flirting with MJ - he made a joke about how Peter shouldn’t be mad about the rumors published by the news about Tony Stark & MJ were sleeping together , and that’s when he threw him out of the so-called indestructible window in Avengers Tower.
He’s unintentionally acting for Matt murfock
I always wanted a alternate Spidey that was Punisher level brutal and when he was in his suit he would take on more of a Spider type persona. Quite, sneaky, brutal, like jump out of the shadows with his agility and snap a neck on the way to next shadow. Like Dexter but Spiderman.