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Oh dang! Looks like the 10lb one is the bulva length and the 45” one is 12.5. Currently out of stock but damn if the knurl is better that could be a winner.
I took the mace loadable "kettlebell" (that thing that looks like it came from a welding shop floor) and turned into a mace/ club. I bought two post hole digger handles and drilled the holes needed to attach them to the loading sleeve. I cut one to about 18 inches or so and made the club. I emailed Rogue about doing something like this for an official product and never heard back. With the plates loaded on it, its a complete set a kettlebell, mace, and club. I like it! Serves the purpose, fairly light empty and balanced correctly for a mace.
@@developyoself5607yep they did that after getting hit by feedback showing I was right. I’d definitely do a follow up review on it. That was a huge fix they did.
That solid handle and gimmicky spinning collar make it a no for me. I regularly swing a fixed weighted 35 lb hollow handle mace. That rogue “mace” would not feel like a mace to me. I think they rushed the gun in order to capitalize on the growing mace community
I was just about to buy the Rogue mace purely on how much I love their kettlebells, but thankfully saw your review. Your thoughtfulness and honesty sold me on your mace. 20lb+ unloaded is crazy for a mace. Where do I buy your model?
The spinning component could be useful if the weights clip your back as you swing it. The weights would likely roll instead of being solid when they hit.
Possibly but I think that’s a bit of a reach. The spin is t a bad thing it’s just a nearly pointless thing. I’m not sure how much the spin would help as if people hit themselves it doesn’t just stay in contact and roll on you, it bonks you and immediately is off again.
I appreciate your review and a huge disappointment for me with the Rogue mace is they strongly discourage slams... and I love doing tire slams with my maces! Since yours is a fixed collar can we do slams with the unit you make?
I personally like maces over clubs. I imagine it has all of the same issues with one additional flaw. Clubs/bulvas are shorter so there are other movements like mills and swipes. In my opinion plate loaded options for clubs are too wide to be used as intended. The Adex club or a fixed weight club option is the way to go for shorter options. That’s why I only make the mace not a mace and club.
I was so excited about this until I realized how heavy it is. I use a shoulderok (8.5lbs) and rarely add more than 5lbs to it. I understand using a steel bar and shaft because they already make those products so it’s a lower barrier to entry into the market. But why didn’t they use an aluminum shaft like their technique bar? This makes no sense. I hope they course correct.
seems like the only real downside is that it's heavy which isn't a downside for you since you're so strong and skilled. It's the best mace for you, right? I wonder if you had Weigh It Out plates how heavy you could get it with 5s.
Actually no. I prefer a lighter mace as the weight distribution is more to the top. It makes for a different feel in the swing. I have weight it out plates. You could get to 100ish with 5’s. Many people scoff at the price point of those though, unfortunately. They’re amazing plates. I use them most of the time when I am swinging.
Like you said at 12:00 - “the things they say are benefits don’t really do anything.” Rogue is good at marketing. Rushing v1 products. Too Wide camber bar. Slinger cable attachment. Knurl issues on cb4. Etc.
It’s a shame. You used to only be able to make fun of Titan for using paying customers for research and development. Rogue is based on the concept of overbuilt and supreme quality. They need to stop this pattern.
Pains me to say it but they didn’t same thing with the multigrip bar a year or 2 ago. They are making customers buy a “finished” product to do their r and d. Then putting out the actual finished version
@@strongmandan I really just thought it was funny. And you're not wrong. I work in software. Software companies do the same thing. Definitely should have prototyped to the mace-wielding community first. I'm interested in your variation. Not ready to pull the trigger, but it's on my list. I've never done any kind of mace work but it looks like it would do wonders for my tight shoulders.
Lol.... Hopefully, people also watch a non-bias review of this instead of someone that is comparing it directly to their own product 😂. They also have a #15.
I spent about 1 minutes in my product option because it’s a direct contrast in what rogue could have done right but just didn’t do any due diligence on 🤷♂️. I have other mace reviews that are direct competitors where I sing their praises. Maverick mace, ck mace, iron master among others. And yes they have a 15lb option but it’s a bulva. It’s 31” so it’s between a club and a mace. They also say it’s designed for flow style workouts. The problem is that flow is typically done in the 10lb range. Rogue pulled a Titan and is relying on paying customers to do the product research for them. If the make the changes I suggested they would have the best option on the market hands down and I’d say so on here.
Rogue just released a lighter hollow handle version. Can't wait for a review!
Oh dang! Looks like the 10lb one is the bulva length and the 45” one is 12.5. Currently out of stock but damn if the knurl is better that could be a winner.
I took the mace loadable "kettlebell" (that thing that looks like it came from a welding shop floor) and turned into a mace/ club. I bought two post hole digger handles and drilled the holes needed to attach them to the loading sleeve. I cut one to about 18 inches or so and made the club. I emailed Rogue about doing something like this for an official product and never heard back. With the plates loaded on it, its a complete set a kettlebell, mace, and club. I like it! Serves the purpose, fairly light empty and balanced correctly for a mace.
That sounds cool I’d love to see it in action!
So on their website, I do see a 12.5lb version that is supposed to be hollow tubing instead of the solid steel!
@@developyoself5607yep they did that after getting hit by feedback showing I was right. I’d definitely do a follow up review on it. That was a huge fix they did.
That solid handle and gimmicky spinning collar make it a no for me. I regularly swing a fixed weighted 35 lb hollow handle mace. That rogue “mace” would not feel like a mace to me. I think they rushed the gun in order to capitalize on the growing mace community
Totally agree. To be fair they just released a hallow one this week. So interested to do another review.
I was just about to buy the Rogue mace purely on how much I love their kettlebells, but thankfully saw your review. Your thoughtfulness and honesty sold me on your mace. 20lb+ unloaded is crazy for a mace. Where do I buy your model?
attitudeiron.com/ols/products/attitude-adjustable-mace
That means a lot man.
I just got the 15 lb one. I wish I had found your channel and review earlier. I still like it, but you’re right about it not being hollow.
If you still have the package you should be able to return it.
The spinning component could be useful if the weights clip your back as you swing it. The weights would likely roll instead of being solid when they hit.
Possibly but I think that’s a bit of a reach. The spin is t a bad thing it’s just a nearly pointless thing. I’m not sure how much the spin would help as if people hit themselves it doesn’t just stay in contact and roll on you, it bonks you and immediately is off again.
I appreciate your review and a huge disappointment for me with the Rogue mace is they strongly discourage slams... and I love doing tire slams with my maces! Since yours is a fixed collar can we do slams with the unit you make?
I’d assume so but I haven’t tried it. I’d just say use a sledge for that. Not sure if the plates on the sleeve would be an issue
What about the 31 inch 15 lb?
I personally like maces over clubs. I imagine it has all of the same issues with one additional flaw. Clubs/bulvas are shorter so there are other movements like mills and swipes. In my opinion plate loaded options for clubs are too wide to be used as intended. The Adex club or a fixed weight club option is the way to go for shorter options. That’s why I only make the mace not a mace and club.
Nice review, I was wondering what your thoughts were on this one 💪🏼
So much potential with a few changes.
Great review!!!
Appreciate that. Hopefully rogue sees it and makes some easy changes.
I was so excited about this until I realized how heavy it is. I use a shoulderok (8.5lbs) and rarely add more than 5lbs to it.
I understand using a steel bar and shaft because they already make those products so it’s a lower barrier to entry into the market. But why didn’t they use an aluminum shaft like their technique bar? This makes no sense. I hope they course correct.
Yeah I didn’t even thing of aluminum. That’s not a bad idea. Might be some bar bend concerns though
seems like the only real downside is that it's heavy which isn't a downside for you since you're so strong and skilled. It's the best mace for you, right?
I wonder if you had Weigh It Out plates how heavy you could get it with 5s.
Actually no. I prefer a lighter mace as the weight distribution is more to the top. It makes for a different feel in the swing. I have weight it out plates. You could get to 100ish with 5’s. Many people scoff at the price point of those though, unfortunately. They’re amazing plates. I use them most of the time when I am swinging.
Your audio needs some improvement
Yep. Tried a new mic and it sucks
Do you think you should of bought the 15lbs
No because the 15lber is shorter. Anything under 42” is a bulva or club not a mace. The weight comes from the solid steel. The lighter one is like 30”
Awesome look at the mace. To bar they missed the mark and I agree that they should beta test with athletes like you more often
I’ll definitely purchase their updated version if they make one.
Like you said at 12:00 - “the things they say are benefits don’t really do anything.” Rogue is good at marketing. Rushing v1 products. Too Wide camber bar. Slinger cable attachment. Knurl issues on cb4. Etc.
It’s a shame. You used to only be able to make fun of Titan for using paying customers for research and development. Rogue is based on the concept of overbuilt and supreme quality. They need to stop this pattern.
@@strongmandanno they don't. Love how overbuilt.
11:54 Ouch. Burn. Kicked Rogue right in the nuts with that one.
Pains me to say it but they didn’t same thing with the multigrip bar a year or 2 ago. They are making customers buy a “finished” product to do their r and d. Then putting out the actual finished version
@@strongmandan I really just thought it was funny. And you're not wrong. I work in software. Software companies do the same thing. Definitely should have prototyped to the mace-wielding community first.
I'm interested in your variation. Not ready to pull the trigger, but it's on my list. I've never done any kind of mace work but it looks like it would do wonders for my tight shoulders.
Lol.... Hopefully, people also watch a non-bias review of this instead of someone that is comparing it directly to their own product 😂. They also have a #15.
I spent about 1 minutes in my product option because it’s a direct contrast in what rogue could have done right but just didn’t do any due diligence on 🤷♂️. I have other mace reviews that are direct competitors where I sing their praises. Maverick mace, ck mace, iron master among others. And yes they have a 15lb option but it’s a bulva. It’s 31” so it’s between a club and a mace. They also say it’s designed for flow style workouts. The problem is that flow is typically done in the 10lb range. Rogue pulled a Titan and is relying on paying customers to do the product research for them. If the make the changes I suggested they would have the best option on the market hands down and I’d say so on here.
Excellent review man. Thanks for everything you do. - trainingandrehabfriend
Appreciate that