Another thumbs up for the Retrospec 10 pound. When shopping for a 7 pound for my wife, Retrospec was out of stock (Amazon in EU) so I got a lighter - 2.5 kg (5.5 pound) - “Power Guidance”, which I would place above Retrospec in quality: invisible weld joint, beautiful finish, excellent knurling and metal end cap. Recently being out of range of Amazon shipping, and wanting to move up in weight, I purchased a 6 kg (13.2 pound) and 4 kg (8.8 pound) labelled “CLUBBELL”. Very inferior, with messy weld joint, irregular finish, knurling as an after thought and plastic end cap. The most irritating aspect, however, is the balance - they have proportionately lighter handles than the Retrospec or Power Guidance (very thin walls on the steel tube, I guess) making flow moves that rely on handle momentum more difficult; though challenges can provide benefits too. Thanks for this excellent comparison providing a baseline for expectation!
Hey Coach Vaughn, love your work. (Mechanical engineer here.) When you say 'cast' - they're not cast. The head is steel, turned on a lathe. The handle is a bit of tube that's been knurled on a lathe. The handle is welded to the head, not cast. That's just how this manufacturing process works. (Kettlebells, by comparison, are generally cast steel, but maces are fabricated by welding the two fundamental components together, and - for completeness - heavy steel clubs are generally turned from solid steel round bar on a lathe.) This is just an FYI, for the sake of accuracy in future. I am sure if you asked Onnit or any of the other manufacturers, they would confirm this. All the best, and again thank you for your excellent content.
Okay thanks for the info, ya I got in the habit of saying “cast” mainly from looking at how kettlebells were made and, now remember one of my other engineer clients (Palmdale,CA is all aerospace engineering) telling me about lathes with maces. Thanks for the feedback - will be sure to put out more in the future 👍
I bought an Onnit 10lb mace some years ago. And it's been one of the best training equipments I've bought. Have put it through everything I can throw at it. Still holds up and still going strong Love it. Great commentary and review,. 🤘
Great vid! I have the full set (5-30) of retrospec mace along with dual 10lb'ers. Feel great for what I do and the customer service has been top notch with all my questions. Glad to see they made it in this video!
Thanks for the review. Just gave myself 'two' Father's Day Gift: a 7lb and a 10 lb (TACFIT) 🥳. btw: got your book (Enter the Steel Mace... but, will take it to KINKOS for spiral binding... easier to flip the pages). Thanks.
I love Kabuki, have their TransFormer Bar and Pain Pill / Boomstick for body tempering. That’s good to hear because when I first heard of it in 2015 - the handle looked way to short and do notice they make them longer now.
I started with a 10lb retrospec and upgraded to a synergy for a wider diameter handle. It's the best mace I've tried so far, which isn't many to be honest. Cap is plastic, weld is nice. I have a 20lb yes4all. Plastic cap, sus weld, gnarling still shreds my hands. And scored a power guidance 20lb which is well crafted and has a steel cap.
I tried to order a CAP mace on Amazon and it said they don’t ship that to my area in checkout (that was first to see). Then I ordered a Garage Fit one…and it’s been two weeks and has not come. So there’s a lot of bad management from these companies. But yes, I’m big into steel caps for mainly the longevity. Incline Steel Mace was first I saw plastic caps with years ago and rust came pouring out it. It’s a the biggest sign of cheap mace.
I ordered a 20lb Retro today. Amazon didn't have any Tact Fit. Time to get myself in shape. I'll be 40 this year. 6' 155lbs and sling steel for a living. Yet I'm way out of shape. Have gotten lazy over the years since my time in the service. Time to change that.🤘💪
I recently found gada swinging and bought my first mace and I got the retrospec one and im happy with it. Saw this video after getting my mace and I love it 🎉
Thank you for the video. Nice to know of an alternative to onnit since their 10 lb mace is currently out of stock. I’m looking to get started. Great content!
Orale wat up Homie, just seen one of yr beginner videos this morning never heard of this method exercise but quickly dug it, I liked it so much I ordered the 20lbs mace, not knowing what I ordered I checked and I ordered the retrospect mace so I guess it's the B+ . Lol. I get this Friday, I'll be doing this while I check out yr videos thanks..Cee U On The Road..
Thanks for the video. So it seems Disregarding shipping quality (which I don’t care about in a steel item), and if I’m not going to be hitting tires, even the worst is equal to the best.
thanks for this video. I have been training with tacfit clubbells for years but always had an interest in macebells. Guess I waited so long to buy one that tacfit started making them. Any chance you have a video on club reviews as well?
Great review, I was told that set for set Mace is very similar to onnit Maces from length to handle diameter from 10 lb up any thoughts? Can you a comparison 10lb onnit Mace to TACFIT Steel Mace 10lb handled diameter? Steel coating? And knurling? Which is better.
I’ve only heard from friends say that SFS had smaller diameter handles, and then started using the same Chinese production houses as Onnit to correct that issue. So can’t fully verify that - but am planning a part 2 with this including more brands on Amazon. But the handle diameter is the same with TACFIT and Onnit. TACFIT feels rougher in a good way with their powder coat with better grip and friction around the knurling - as Onnit’s coat is a bit more slick and not as aggressive on the knurling side. So if you were doing more complexes with a medium sized mace…onnit be good. If you’re looking to swing heavy….TACFIT. Both are good.
I bought a mace 2 years ago after watching your videos. I liked the idea of throwing weight around like that. I do remember Onnit being expensive so I bought from Amazon. I just checked which one I had and I’m happy I got a Retrospec. I’m also happy to say I still incorporate the mace in my workouts. I love it! I appreciate your content and guidance
Tacfit a bit more expensive, plus no free shipping = an extra $35 for the 15 lb mace vs the B+ recommended retrospec mace. I'm not going to do any tire pounding with mine, so I'm thinking the retrospec should be fine for me.
Ya, the only difference from the two was TACFIT’s knurl was more aggressive. But Retrospec is still a very solid pic, and that makes more sense money wise.
Thank's Craig for your opinion, and Coach Vaughn for affirming. I've placed an order for 10lb Retrospec. This one should serve my purposes. If I really use it and get proficient with it, I could spend the savings here and upgrade to a 15lb.
Hi, thank you for this video. At 2:41 you say that the cast of the Yes 4 All Steel Mace ''is also the worst out of the four here as you see so i don't recommend this for tire striking it's likely going to warp the handle over time because it's not a good cast''... ??? How do you arrive at such a conclusion just through visual observation? The weld on the Yes 4 All Steel Mace is certainly coarser, but from the claim that to hit a tire, it will probably deform the handle over time because it is not a good cast while the traces of machining are simply more visible. I do not understand the objective and factual basis of your reasoning.
As stated in the video, plastic end caps (3:58). This is a major sign the handle is of poor integrity from the 8 years I've bought, trained, and coached, with steel maces (specifically, this happened when I got an "Incline Steel Mace" in 2017). When the plastic cap eventually pops off from use -- this allows for more debris and moisture to rust it from the inside out. So not only with it slowly warp over time with tire striking; it will implode out the debris after every strike. You can clearly see the photos by reviewers stating these exact issues on the Yes4All Steel Mace Amazon page by clicking on the 1 star reviews for factual basis. The Onnit steel maces I've used have taken a beating for those 8 years with me and training sessions because their solid quality end caps. Secondly, do I really have to say a company that doesn't even use actual photos of their steel maces (more so, used mine ripping off my steel mace rack 1:45) and uses poorly edited photoshopped ad images . . . is a crap company to buy from?
@@CoachVikingVaughn So you're saying it's going to slowly warp over time because it's going to rust from the inside. Ok, that makes sense. To avoid this, I will grease the inside of my 4 All Steel Mace. The advantage of a removable plastic cap is that you can ballast the Steel Mace by putting stuff inside, and replace the plastic cap with something else that you screw. Thanks for your good work.
I just got a 7 and a 10 pounder from Amazon by Body Sport. They were the least expensive that I saw. They have steel end caps, excellent welds and finish. My only complaints are that the knurling is a bit too aggressive and there was a little blemish on the edge of the cap end on the 7#. For the money, they're an excellent value. I'm not an expert mace wielder, but I am an experienced metal worker and welder.
Are there any maces with a thinner handle? I’ve got small hands and thicker handles are not as easy for me to grip. I have the same issue with kettlebells.
No, I think their handle diameter is too thin, and they look cheap. Retrospect is clearly the favorite on Amazon because its at good price with okay quality.
TACFIT’s is a bit more gritty - as Onnit’s is bit more smooth finish. Retrospec is still a very solid pic though if you’re looking for a better price between the two.
Ya, that’s what I thought because they don’t have a official website and all their photos are horribly edited with maces. In the photo with my rack you actually see it’s a sledgehammer the guy is tire striking and they just placed a mace head over it. Lol Another reason to buy USA made steel 🇺🇸
Very common question I’ve been getting for years, and educate people on the clear differences here in this video: m.th-cam.com/video/4FyGC8chXPY/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUZQ29hY2ggVmF1Z2huIHNsZWRnZWhhbW1lcg%3D%3D
Trust me, I buy as much USA made stuff I can, but when I got into maces & clubs back in 2014 - Onnit was the only choice. I actually looked into making my own USA made steel maces, and economically I would go bankrupt in less than a year from material costs. It’s why you only see adjustable maces & clubs being more popular in the US, and the average cost of them is $300-400….which in my opinion is just overboard for a simple tool. So ya, many are gonna take the China made $50 mace with free Amazon shipping every time.
Amazon Steel Mace Links:
Yes 4 All Steel Mace: amzn.to/3bekYcU
Synergee Steel Mace: amzn.to/3QyzjRF
Retrospec Steel Mace: amzn.to/3HzQRbI
TACT FIT Steel Mace: amzn.to/3bbv3Y7
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Enter The Steel Mace Book on Amazon: amzn.to/3OnWZ9d
How do these compare to Onnit? And do you happen to know where onnit is made?
Another thumbs up for the Retrospec 10 pound.
When shopping for a 7 pound for my wife, Retrospec was out of stock (Amazon in EU) so I got a lighter - 2.5 kg (5.5 pound) - “Power Guidance”, which I would place above Retrospec in quality: invisible weld joint, beautiful finish, excellent knurling and metal end cap.
Recently being out of range of Amazon shipping, and wanting to move up in weight, I purchased a 6 kg (13.2 pound) and 4 kg (8.8 pound) labelled “CLUBBELL”. Very inferior, with messy weld joint, irregular finish, knurling as an after thought and plastic end cap. The most irritating aspect, however, is the balance - they have proportionately lighter handles than the Retrospec or Power Guidance (very thin walls on the steel tube, I guess) making flow moves that rely on handle momentum more difficult; though challenges can provide benefits too.
Thanks for this excellent comparison providing a baseline for expectation!
Hey Coach Vaughn, love your work. (Mechanical engineer here.) When you say 'cast' - they're not cast. The head is steel, turned on a lathe. The handle is a bit of tube that's been knurled on a lathe. The handle is welded to the head, not cast. That's just how this manufacturing process works. (Kettlebells, by comparison, are generally cast steel, but maces are fabricated by welding the two fundamental components together, and - for completeness - heavy steel clubs are generally turned from solid steel round bar on a lathe.) This is just an FYI, for the sake of accuracy in future. I am sure if you asked Onnit or any of the other manufacturers, they would confirm this. All the best, and again thank you for your excellent content.
Okay thanks for the info, ya I got in the habit of saying “cast” mainly from looking at how kettlebells were made and, now remember one of my other engineer clients (Palmdale,CA is all aerospace engineering) telling me about lathes with maces.
Thanks for the feedback - will be sure to put out more in the future 👍
Thanks for the info. Do you have a mace you recommend?
I bought an Onnit 10lb mace some years ago. And it's been one of the best training equipments I've bought. Have put it through everything I can throw at it. Still holds up and still going strong Love it.
Great commentary and review,. 🤘
I got the "Wolf Strength Steel Mace" and it's pretty nice. It is also color coded by weight.
Nicely done. Just found this after ordering Power Guidance brand 10lb mace off Amazon. So far so good.
Great vid! I have the full set (5-30) of retrospec mace along with dual 10lb'ers. Feel great for what I do and the customer service has been top notch with all my questions. Glad to see they made it in this video!
Been really impressed with my first mace from Retrospec. Fit the budget to boot. Appreciate the insight Coach Vaughn!
Thanks for the review. Just gave myself 'two' Father's Day Gift: a 7lb and a 10 lb (TACFIT) 🥳. btw: got your book (Enter the Steel Mace... but, will take it to KINKOS for spiral binding... easier to flip the pages). Thanks.
Sure thing, and thanks for supporting the book👍 Happy Father’s Day
Great review! I’d love to see you do a review of adjustable maces like the ShouldeRok.
Thanks, Been definitely thinking about doing that since it’s been a commonly asked question on the differences between it.
I have one and love it - its longer and with plates on the end seem a bit more intimidating and that makes for a unique workout with it.
I love Kabuki, have their TransFormer Bar and Pain Pill / Boomstick for body tempering.
That’s good to hear because when I first heard of it in 2015 - the handle looked way to short and do notice they make them longer now.
I started with a 10lb retrospec and upgraded to a synergy for a wider diameter handle. It's the best mace I've tried so far, which isn't many to be honest. Cap is plastic, weld is nice. I have a 20lb yes4all. Plastic cap, sus weld, gnarling still shreds my hands. And scored a power guidance 20lb which is well crafted and has a steel cap.
I tried to order a CAP mace on Amazon and it said they don’t ship that to my area in checkout (that was first to see). Then I ordered a Garage Fit one…and it’s been two weeks and has not come. So there’s a lot of bad management from these companies.
But yes, I’m big into steel caps for mainly the longevity. Incline Steel Mace was first I saw plastic caps with years ago and rust came pouring out it. It’s a the biggest sign of cheap mace.
@@CoachVikingVaughn steel cap = welded cap?
I ordered a 20lb Retro today. Amazon didn't have any Tact Fit. Time to get myself in shape. I'll be 40 this year. 6' 155lbs and sling steel for a living. Yet I'm way out of shape. Have gotten lazy over the years since my time in the service. Time to change that.🤘💪
Talk about timing. I had the yes 4 all in my cart and was looking for an exercise plan to use with it when this popped up.
I recently found gada swinging and bought my first mace and I got the retrospec one and im happy with it. Saw this video after getting my mace and I love it 🎉
My 15 pounds Yes4All Steel Mace Bell is still good after 5 months.
Thank you for the video. Nice to know of an alternative to onnit since their 10 lb mace is currently out of stock. I’m looking to get started. Great content!
Sure thing, and thanks 👍
New to this but just wanted to say thanks for the reviews. I cancelled the yes4all I ordered and my Retrospec will be here tomorrow
I bought a yes4all and the paint’s peeling off before i got it. It seems cheaply made.
How would you compare the Tact Fit Steel Mace to the Onnit one? Also do you recommend starting with 15lb weight?
Orale wat up Homie, just seen one of yr beginner videos this morning never heard of this method exercise but quickly dug it, I liked it so much I ordered the 20lbs mace, not knowing what I ordered I checked and I ordered the retrospect mace so I guess it's the B+ . Lol. I get this Friday, I'll be doing this while I check out yr videos thanks..Cee U On The Road..
Retrospec is still very solid. Sure thing👍🏼
Thanks for the video.
So it seems Disregarding shipping quality (which I don’t care about in a steel item), and if I’m not going to be hitting tires, even the worst is equal to the best.
Buy nice or cry twice.
Wish I had seen this prior to placing my order. The price difference between the Yes4All & TacFit is $12 (for a 15# mace). didnt compare the others.
I got my first mace today. I got the retrospec 10 pound on Amazon for $25.
thanks for this video. I have been training with tacfit clubbells for years but always had an interest in macebells. Guess I waited so long to buy one that tacfit started making them. Any chance you have a video on club reviews as well?
Sure thing, I’m planning to add a Amazon Best & Worst Steel Club edition soon 👍
Great review, I was told that set for set Mace is very similar to onnit Maces from length to handle diameter from 10 lb up any thoughts? Can you a comparison 10lb onnit Mace to TACFIT Steel Mace 10lb handled diameter? Steel coating? And knurling? Which is better.
I’ve only heard from friends say that SFS had smaller diameter handles, and then started using the same Chinese production houses as Onnit to correct that issue. So can’t fully verify that - but am planning a part 2 with this including more brands on Amazon.
But the handle diameter is the same with TACFIT and Onnit. TACFIT feels rougher in a good way with their powder coat with better grip and friction around the knurling - as Onnit’s coat is a bit more slick and not as aggressive on the knurling side. So if you were doing more complexes with a medium sized mace…onnit be good. If you’re looking to swing heavy….TACFIT. Both are good.
@@CoachVikingVaughn thanks I appreciate your respond
How does the CAP mace hold up? I have heard good things about CAP.
The photoshop of your dad's handiwork bothered me. I canceled my Yes4All order and ordered a Retrospec. Thanks for the review.
Sure thing, and thanks👍🏼
same
I have a yes4all kettlebell 50 lbs and it's solid as heck no issues.
I bought a mace 2 years ago after watching your videos. I liked the idea of throwing weight around like that. I do remember Onnit being expensive so I bought from Amazon. I just checked which one I had and I’m happy I got a Retrospec. I’m also happy to say I still incorporate the mace in my workouts. I love it! I appreciate your content and guidance
Happy to help, and thank you for the kind words.
Tacfit a bit more expensive, plus no free shipping = an extra $35 for the 15 lb mace vs the B+ recommended retrospec mace. I'm not going to do any tire pounding with mine, so I'm thinking the retrospec should be fine for me.
Ya, the only difference from the two was TACFIT’s knurl was more aggressive. But Retrospec is still a very solid pic, and that makes more sense money wise.
Thank's Craig for your opinion, and Coach Vaughn for affirming. I've placed an order for 10lb Retrospec. This one should serve my purposes. If I really use it and get proficient with it, I could spend the savings here and upgrade to a 15lb.
Hi, thank you for this video.
At 2:41 you say that the cast of the Yes 4 All Steel Mace ''is also the worst out of the four here as you see so i don't recommend this for tire striking it's likely going to warp the handle over time because it's not a good cast''... ??? How do you arrive at such a conclusion just through visual observation? The weld on the Yes 4 All Steel Mace is certainly coarser, but from the claim that to hit a tire, it will probably deform the handle over time because it is not a good cast while the traces of machining are simply more visible. I do not understand the objective and factual basis of your reasoning.
As stated in the video, plastic end caps (3:58). This is a major sign the handle is of poor integrity from the 8 years I've bought, trained, and coached, with steel maces (specifically, this happened when I got an "Incline Steel Mace" in 2017). When the plastic cap eventually pops off from use -- this allows for more debris and moisture to rust it from the inside out. So not only with it slowly warp over time with tire striking; it will implode out the debris after every strike. You can clearly see the photos by reviewers stating these exact issues on the Yes4All Steel Mace Amazon page by clicking on the 1 star reviews for factual basis. The Onnit steel maces I've used have taken a beating for those 8 years with me and training sessions because their solid quality end caps.
Secondly, do I really have to say a company that doesn't even use actual photos of their steel maces (more so, used mine ripping off my steel mace rack 1:45) and uses poorly edited photoshopped ad images . . . is a crap company to buy from?
@@CoachVikingVaughn So you're saying it's going to slowly warp over time because it's going to rust from the inside. Ok, that makes sense.
To avoid this, I will grease the inside of my 4 All Steel Mace. The advantage of a removable plastic cap is that you can ballast the Steel Mace by putting stuff inside, and replace the plastic cap with something else that you screw.
Thanks for your good work.
Found this right before i was about to use an Amazon gift card. Thank you.
I just added the 10lb Retrospect on sale for $24.99 with Amazon.
That’s a sweet deal. I’d get a 15lb too if they’re running that cheap now.
I just got a 7 and a 10 pounder from Amazon by Body Sport. They were the least expensive that I saw. They have steel end caps, excellent welds and finish. My only complaints are that the knurling is a bit too aggressive and there was a little blemish on the edge of the cap end on the 7#. For the money, they're an excellent value. I'm not an expert mace wielder, but I am an experienced metal worker and welder.
Good to know - I’m likely going to do a part 2 on this reviewing more brands to keep this relevant as this video is almost a year old now.
Are there any maces with a thinner handle? I’ve got small hands and thicker handles are not as easy for me to grip. I have the same issue with kettlebells.
Ide like to try this type of training. Not sure what weight to start with. I'm 6ft 220lb and bench 250lb.. what would you recommend
I would have sent the 'Yes4All' back after reviewing it 😂
They deserve it for using your rack pic without asking! 😠
Thanks for the review!
Sure thing 👍 and yes I sent it back for a refund first thing after published this video.
I have the yes for all and been good. I do not tire strike
What weight do you recommend for a male beginner to start with? I don't know if it matters but I weigh 250.
15lb
@@CoachVikingVaughn thanks
Is set for set a good brand?
No, I think their handle diameter is too thin, and they look cheap. Retrospect is clearly the favorite on Amazon because its at good price with okay quality.
great honest review--thank you-mike
How would TacFit compare to Onnit?
TACFIT’s is a bit more gritty - as Onnit’s is bit more smooth finish. Retrospec is still a very solid pic though if you’re looking for a better price between the two.
I just bougth my first mace. A Yes4all. It came scratched, like yours. These people mistreats his own product.
Nice information
pick up retrospec one.
Thanks for this video!
Thanks
nice shirt 🤘
I got the Retrospec because it's as good as the TacFit, it's cheaper, and all their maces are the same length.
Synergee is a great company. I've bought other equipment through them.
Super wrong to use that rack in their promo.
The stuff law suits are made of.
Yes is a Chinese Communist company, so you aren't going to be able to lawsuit them.
@@SSN515
Another good reason for the imminent Chinese eradication.
Sad about the poor souls in that regime that didn't ask for it.
Ya, that’s what I thought because they don’t have a official website and all their photos are horribly edited with maces. In the photo with my rack you actually see it’s a sledgehammer the guy is tire striking and they just placed a mace head over it. Lol
Another reason to buy USA made steel 🇺🇸
@@CoachVikingVaughn I always endeavor to do that. I'll even pay extra.
Capitalism is a crazed feral beast, with syphilis!
Thanks for the video man. Well done 👍
😆 thanks
cant I just use my sledge hammer? Why would I give Amazon any of my money when I can give it to a local hardware store in my own community.
Very common question I’ve been getting for years, and educate people on the clear differences here in this video: m.th-cam.com/video/4FyGC8chXPY/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUZQ29hY2ggVmF1Z2huIHNsZWRnZWhhbW1lcg%3D%3D
Dude they ripped you off not cool
everybody raves about onnit, but made in china. meh.
Trust me, I buy as much USA made stuff I can, but when I got into maces & clubs back in 2014 - Onnit was the only choice.
I actually looked into making my own USA made steel maces, and economically I would go bankrupt in less than a year from material costs. It’s why you only see adjustable maces & clubs being more popular in the US, and the average cost of them is $300-400….which in my opinion is just overboard for a simple tool.
So ya, many are gonna take the China made $50 mace with free Amazon shipping every time.