They say you have to touch the kyber krystal with your skin to make it bleed, VADER HAD NO HANDS, and palpatine bled a shit load of them with only the force
My thoughts exactly. The only explanation I'm willing to stomach is that you have to be a certain level of strength and commitment to just bleed them through the force. Anakin didn't have yellow eyes the whole time to my recollection.
I'm quite surprised the lightsaber didn't just blow up when Osha ignited it. We've seen in The Clone Wars (The episodes where Ashoka accompany the younglings to get their crystals) that a crystal placed upside-down in the lightsaber can provoke an explosion when you try to ignite it. So a crystal being halfway out of the lightsaber...
@@QuinlanVoss. Disney can't even get their own shit right. What's the point of paying $4BIL+ for something when you don't even use it right? Utter buffoonery to the max.
@@carlosp.574 What's most dissappointing is Dave Filoni read the script and agreed upon it and approved it, yet it was him who wrote and directed that clone wars episode in reference.
I had always understood that a lightsaber’s blade color was determined solely by the color of the focusing crystal and not through any special connection with its wielder. Lightsabers in the prequel era were either blue or green because by that point Illum was the only remaining source of crystals and Illum only produced blue and green crystals. The other colors occasionally seen (yellow, purple) were those colors because they were using ancient crystals from long forgotten or otherwise expended sources. Red sabers were, as you say, synthetic.
Yeah that way is much better imo, ik star wars is supposed to be a blend of fantasy and sci fi or whatever but it seems like theyre tipping the scales towards fantasy more n more
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How the lightsaber didn’t obliterate her hand when she ignited it is beyond me. It was damaged to the point the crystal was poking out of the hilt and touching her skin. Parody levels of inconsistency with headlamp.
This is exactly what i was thinking. How STUPID was this...bleeding a crystal is a big deal (vadar struggled, Ben couldnt even do it fully, etc...) and they make it out to be PMS...
@@ryanbaker5296I think there’s a part in Visions where someone changes the blade color by touching the hilt. also in Rebels Kaien during his training to be a knight when he grabbed a second lightsaber it was red, he was out matched, afraid/fearful, so when he grabbed the saber it was red. Idk how true this idea is as it was a weird illusion training thing but with how no natural crystal is red you could say his fear influenced the visor and change the saber without touching it Also Sol saber is terribly made it broke when it was thrown really
I still say I prefer the bleeding the crystal method to the synthetic crystal method, to me it feels like a final step in truly turning to the Dark Side, but I liked it because it took time, it wasn't instant and you actually had to truly pour your hatred into it. But Osha just picks it up, and suddenly it's Red? It makes no sense, and it makes me dislike the bleeding the crystal concept because it's now become super inconsistent for no good reason. Because Vader didn't touch it? Who came up with that 😂
bleeding the crystals was actually way cooler than the original "synthetic crystals" in my opinion. The acolyte just seems to have shat on one of Disneys only cool ideas
Up until Acolyte. My assumption was that bleeding the crystal was a difficult process that required a lot of focus (that's how it appears in the Vader comics). So just being immersed in the darkside wasn't enough, you had to consciously bleed the crystal. However, now that idea has gone out of the window. Apparently, you can bleed a kyber crystal without even knowing it. I've got to do some mental gymnastics to make this fit in my head canon.
In Jedi Survivor, you free that weirdo high republic jedi from stasis and the first thing he does is open up his lightsaber and bleed his crystal in like 3 seconds lol, it was so strange
I’m down for the crystal bleeding aspect Disney introduced BUT why even do it this way. Have her kill Sol then show her bleeding the saber later on. Doing it this way makes people ask questions like this and then it forces Disney to scramble for an answer that sounds dumb and made up on the spot 🤣
@archdornan3694 I thought Crystal Bleeding could be a cool idea but yeah, as it is currently, mood rings are an accurate description. I imagined the original idea of this with a true sith corrupting a crystal into a new form that would fit with how the Sith used the force. Manipulating and twisting it.
I also hate how she just looks confused as she's bleeding it. It's like she's surprised it's happening, even though it should be a raw output of rage and anger, forcing the crystal to change.
The funniest thing about this crystal bleeding thing was in Jedi Survivor, when you bring that high republic jedi out of whatever stasis he was in, and the very first thing he does is pull out the lightsaber crystal in front of Cal and bleed it red. Like he just instantly decided "Oh yeah guess I'm sith now"
You see, Disney’s answer to her touching the crystal still doesn’t add up because in Jedi: Survivor, Dagan Gera never physically touched his Kyber Crystal when bleeding his Crystal. So Disney’s answer here is just a BS excuse to say that Osha was bleeding that crystal. Plus I really feel if anyone bleeds a Kyber Crystal in Star Wars, it should be done with intent to bleed the Crystal, not just some passive thing happening without realizing it, otherwise, Anakin’s Kyber Crystal would’ve turned red in Episode II and III
@@thejoker7710 some people have attempted to justify this by saying "well Dagan is incredibly skilled in the Force and Telekinesis", but that still doesn't mean sense. Because the explanation for why Occupational Safety and Health Administration turning her crystal red is PHYSICAL CONTACT. I would also argue this point couldn't be used because they used the same explanation for Dagan as for how Ray used a Jedi mind trick, despite not knowing what that was. Saying "well Ray is incredibly poweful", the defenders of Disney SW don't and can't have consistent argumentation, because they only work in vacuums of one another, resulting in them backpeddling on excusing the poor writing, because they aren't making an argument, rather they are coping
I think the reason they went with color-changing lightsaber is because it was a safer way of making her "switch sides" rather than showing her turning evil with the yellow/red eyes, like Anakin in Revenge of the Sith, especially since the Jedi were presented as being all sorts of corrupt in the Acolyte. I actually like the concept of Sith bleeding the crystal red but not in the way the Acolyte presented it. It would be a focused ritual, hours of channeling their hatred and rage into the crystal until it becomes corrupt, something that would take focus and commitment to the dark side to pull off. It would not be something that merely happens as one embraces the dark side but only after one becomes entangled and corrupted by it (the Sith eyes as one sign of it). It would be a rite of passage, their absolute embrace of the dark side, something that a Jedi still connected to the light side would not be able to succeed in. Thus the sight of a red lightsaber would not merely indicate a dark side user but one committed to the dark side of the Force.
Also... isn't the lightsaber she was holding while she bled the crystal exposed on the hilt? Wouldn't the energy come shooting right out on the side and just obliterate her arm?
Disney actually said it’s skin contact? I thought it was the darkside of the force being used on the bare crystal. Like Dagan Gera wasn’t holding his crystal when it changed, it was floating in his hand. Yeah Osha was touching it but she was using the darkside to kill Sol. Vader poured all his rage into it using the force and was able to succeed, despite the lightside trying to turn him back with the vision and the crystal resisting his will.
Yeah bare crystal out of a saber. Held in hand or more than likely by the force while you torture it with the force. It takes intent and concentration. You cant do it by happenstance just because you're angry at the dude in front of youwhile holding a saber.
Didn't seem like the crystal resisted her will, however. The problem is it looked like it took zero effort with successful first attempt even, unlike those stronger and more experienced in the Dark Side, such as Vader. It's ridiculous beyond belief. Vader couldn't even do it right away and yet she, someone with *zero* experience with the Dark side, could do it from the jump?! Plus, it should've exploded. Yet another element of canon further broken by Disney. It has been established in the Younglings arc in S6 of George Lucas and Dave Filoni's The Clone Wars that if the crystal isn't inserted properly into the hilt or is upside down, then it will cause an immediate explosion upon ignition of which Clone Wars followed up on. Lesbian Headlamp's lore breaking and contradicting show, however? Not really....
@@Vandicoup Thing with Vader though is it wasn’t his crystal, it was taken from a Jedi he had no connection with. Also he had the lightside vision trying to redeem him. The fact he overcame both shows how powerful he really is. Dagan bled his own crystal so had no trouble. Jedi have strong connections to their crystals so I think when Sol submitted to her killing him the crystal also submitted. That’s how I try to make sense of it anyway. Definitely right the saber should have exploded when she turned it on though, that would have been more entertaining 😂
@@Vandicoup How come the lightsaber is introduced as a weapon capable of cutting through anything, yet luke uses it like a club during the jabbas barge fight?
it's crazy to me that people are more concerned that the original films don't align with the acolyte, instead of being upset that the acolyte doesn't align with the original movies
I just don’t understand how it took Vader so much effort to change his crystal, with all the years of built up anger and hate, and it takes Osha like nothing
Well the reason for this is because Vader was bleeding another jedi's crystal that's why it was fighting back. It makes Osha bleeding it look even more stupid because it was sol's saber
It's because there was a bunch of movies before the living crystal stuff was even canon. It was never like this. So, they had a whooollleee bunch of movies to retcon with the new lightsaber mood ring trash.
I always thought the reason Anakin didn’t have a red saber was because : one… he hadn’t gotten to that point yet and two:… he always thought of himself as still being a good guy, not a Jedi, just doing what in his mind was right. As so when he told Obi-wan “from my point of view, the Jedi are evil”.
There is also a cutscene in Jedi: Survivor where Cal basically revives a High Republic Jedi (I forget the name, sorry), and as he’s recounting what happened to him, his emotions over power him, all while he’s doing that disassembling/reassembling lightsaber meditation thing, then his crystal turns red through sheer overpowering emotion which imo, is a much better take on how it can change to red
@@KingShibe That's literally the only explanation that would actually work & make sense, because Kylo Ren's cracked crystal would have exploded his lightsaber in his hands if he didn't add the exhaust vents.
I'd be happy if Disney addressed the acolyte as a "what if." variant. It would still be complete trash but at least it wouldn't ruin so many characters. Then we wouldn't care what happens or what doesn't make sense as much.
I don't mind the change from synthetic crystals to 'bleeding' the crystal (I actually think the Ahsoka thing with the white crystals was really cool) but I think it should be an intentional event where you focus on the crystal and imbue your hatred and vengeance into the crystal, which Anakin didn't do at that point as he still saw himself as the good guy (though the blending in theory is pretty good too). Osha's bleeding of the crystal made about as much sense as naming someone after the Occupational Safety and Health Administration.
I don't fully get that. That's literally the explanation from George Lucas himself, including the moment when Sam Jackson got his purple lightsaber where George was explaining to him what Blue/Green and Red were. Blue/Green were good, Red was bad. That's how it's always been in Star Wars. There were good guys and there were the bad guys. It always been this simple, 1 dimensional, yin and yang type thing since the literal beginning. Disney made it even more simpler by turning lightsabers into mood rings now which is definitely truly terrible. But the original meaning wasn't all that far off anyways. Again, per George himself during the ROTS documentary: Blue/Green means good, red means bad.
"Star Wars is a franchise for 12 year olds. / The movies were made for children, but they don't wanna admit that." -- George Lucas during a panel and an interview back in the day....
@@Vandicoup nobody is arguing what you just said....i think your completely missing the point, there was lore as to how that color comes about before disney....theory literally goes over this in the video.
@@Vandicoup Yes, but you're putting the cart before the horse. It's not that the lightsabers change color for whoever picks it up. It's that they have different methods of building lightsabers, so they have different colors. A jedi could pick up a red lightsaber no problem, just as sith can fight with blue lightsabers. The lightsabers wouldn't change color, that's not what George meant.
I think this new reasoning was inspired by KOTOR 2. KOTOR 2 has ONE specific Crystal which is perfectly aligned with the player. Its properties were attuned perfectly to the player character and change based on alignment. If you kept making bad choices the player named Crystal would be restricted to dark side users. If you then turned to the light you’d have to talk to Kreia so she could realign the Crystal to attune to the players new condition. So it would go from a dark side restriction to light side. The thing about this was it had absolutely no impact on the colour of the blade. That was determined by what kyber Crystal was inserted into it. The idea of channeling properties into the crystals is very similar to how Disney Star Wars approach it.
Wouldn't the kaiber crystal being exposed mean that the lightsaber is unstable? And that's Disney rules too, kaiber crystals are incredibly unstable and if not properly contained and regulated then they would burst out the sides like Kylo Ren's. At worst it should explode, and at best cut into Osha's hand.
It's funny because the "must be touching" argument falls flat because of Dagen in Jedi Survivor. 🤣 Another thing to point out is that because of the Youngling arc, the crystals were all blue, despite the fact that some later had green sabers during a pre-disney era... but idk, maybe that is easily explained.
Colourless crystals were shown as blue for some reason. Probably artistic choice. It's the same case for the crystal you get in fallen order and also the comic where Luke gets his green crystal.
I always had it that the colour represented the mindset and personality of the youngling as they went to find their crystal. Green was for more introspective people, those leaning more on thought and foresight rather than action... ie those that were called "Consulars". Often also very dedicated to communing with the Force. Blue was for those more attuned to action rather than foresight, warriors and guardians. Whereas yellow was for those of an inquisitive bent, explorers, investigators, sentinels. And the reason why Sith used synthetic crystals was pretty simple... they did not have access to a world where they could find natural ones for a long time. Which in turn led to a disregard for that whole tradition even at times when they could find them more readily. For a Sith basically any crystal will do. I do sort of like the "bleeding" thing, but making it essentially a mood ring is just too much. And it should be a deliberate thing requiring alot of "negative" emotion and focus on the dark side. //Disney Star Wars is basically mostly garbage. Force Awakens started good, and got worse as it rolled... rest of that trilogy was awful. Rogue One was good. Mando was mostly good. And the rest was pretty much average at best, mostly alot worse, aside from Andor. But Disney has even managed to turn Marvel into a franchise that is mostly bleeding money. And Star Wars is pretty much dead.
2:04 There were actually red natural Adegan crystals in legends. Vader replaced his synthetic crystal with an Adegan one around the time of the Empire Strikes Back. Adi Ghalia actually had a red saber around the time of the Phantom Menace, likely using a natural crystal. When Maul emerged and Sith begin to expose themselves, she replaced it with green/blue
Exactly, and if I remember correctly, even the red color of synthetic crystals was simply the basic color obtained from creating the crystal by that method, it was not necessarily indicative of the dark side. With further adjustments it was possible to obtain other colors as well. Infusing the crystals with dark energy was for the purpose of making them stronger, but it shouldn’t be a procedure that guarantees obtaining the color red. Am I wrong?
@@3mber344 100% this. I miss the legends stuff. I'm not a fan of the Harry Potter sorting hat that is kyber crystals. I really liked the fact that a Jedi had to work and improvise in the construction of their saber and that the color was a conscious allegiance choice more than some stupid mood ring.
I really do enjoy the 'bleeding' aspect of saber crystals, I do not like that you must be in physical contact with it. I completely agree with you on that it take you out of the immersion. My personal head cannon was that Osha was looking for an outlet for her anger and rage and ended up subconsciously bleeding Sol's crystal, and Anakin didn't so until Sideous told him to. Its not perfectly thought out but it still keeps me feeling like the Star Wars universe didn't break overnight.
The Separatists were blocking trade ports which would’ve resulted in perfectly good red lightsaber deliveries, this is why Palpatine was the real hero!
I liked the synthetic red crystal since it seemed to really tie into the “quick and easy” way of the dark side. The Jedi way is a spiritual journey whereas the Sith way is more efficient and pragmatic.
Hey Theory, been watching you for years. I just wanted to say thank you for everything you gave us and for being one of my inspirations for starting my own Star Wars TH-cam channel. Your videos always bright my day especially right now with the stresses of college, starting my channel, and life. I'm glad i found your channel and keep up the amazing work. I like the both but the idea of Sith BLEEDING kyber crystals is so interesting to me. It also makes sense, the Dark Side is the quick and easy path. A Sith is basically cheating to get a crystal and making a mockery of the Jedi's deep meditation and connection to the crystal but forcing it to obay vs becoming one with the crystal.
>It also makes sense, the Dark Side is the quick and easy path For me it doesn't, because I don't see any benefits that the red lightsaber brings to the table. If anything, it makes you immediately exposed as a dark side user.
@@Vladislav888 that is fair especially when we are in the Rule of Two era and the Sith are trying to remain hidden. I think it's more symbolic than a physical benefit. It shows your truly commitment to the Dark Side. But that's just what I think.
@@SkywalkerAcademy-oi4fb If I remember correctly, red crystals were synthetic in the original lore. I would argue that it both makes more sense and more thematically appropriate. It makes sense because jedi probably protect all of the lightsaber crystal sources, so the Sith have to make do. It's thematically appropriate because Sith are materialistic and their lightsabers are merely tools of war with no personal attachment.
@@Vladislav888 that's probably the best reasoning for the synthetic red crystals I've heard and it makes complete sense. The only Sith who would know the location of Kyber Crystals would be former Jedi but I don't many Sith took fallen Jedi as apprentices anyways because what if they turn to the Light? They risk exposure.
@@SkywalkerAcademy-oi4fb yeah, the greatest Sith Lords like Exar Kun and Ajunta Pall were not former Jedi at all. Clearly you know so much about Star Wars and hence your excitement about "bleeding period" for crystals :P
dagan took his crystal out and bled it immediately then put it back in. it even caused a shockwave that pushed cal back so dunno how it can change like that
I'm pretty sure Dagan didn't even make physical contact with the crystal to make it bleed. But of course Disney is only concerned with Canon, when people point it out to them, despite that they should already be concerned with Canon, regardless of if we point it out
Mood ring is such a sad analogy for kyber crystals. They took crystallizations of the living force that resonated with their users being and turned it into an accessory. Love how you took depth and width from the volume that light saber crystals were, good on you Disney.
@Star Wars Theory you kinda messed up/mixed up the 3 main kyber crystal colors meaning the Jedi generally used in the EU/George Lucas Era the real meaning of the 3 Kyber Crystal colors meaning are: Green- Represents growth, safety, harmony, helpfulness, cooperation, and spirituality these where used by the Jedi Consular's (Like the Jedi Healers, Historians, ect.) Blue - represented justice, righteousness, and bravery, these where used by the Jedi Guardians who where more martially inclined. Yellow- Represents those who balanced combat with scholarly pursuits, these where mainly wielded by Jedi Sentinels, Jedi Shadows and by Temple Guards. Hope this helped refreshed your memory and clarified the misinformation
Wait a second. In Star Wars Jedi survivor Dagan also bled his crystal at least partially so it turned reddish orange, but I'm pretty sure that he was levitating it in the air with the force. I might be misremembering but I'm pretty sure that's how that went.
Had to rewatch that cutscene. Can confirm, He did not in fact touch the crystal. Good Lord Disney the game came out literally last year... Not that much of a deep dive.
I will never forget how cool it felt to walk into the crystal cave in kotor II and get the little cutscene where kreia tells me to feel the crystal calling out in the Force
Can we talk about lightsaber construction for a second? From what I recall the lightsaber has 4 main components (not including the kyber). The hilt, the power cell, the crystal matrix & the focusing lens. The lightsaber that was "bled" in the acoltye had a broken hilt ( so that physical contact could be made with the crystal). This would also mean that the crystal matrix is at the very least misaligned if not also broken. That alone should mean there should have been a violent energetic reaction as soon as the lightsaber was powered. Lastly the saber in the Acolyte totally lacks a focusing lens, That means that there is no way for the energy to be focused into a tight beam.
This is not real Star Wars, that was your mistake, In real Star Wars, there are things besides the Force, like technology. not everything is "magic" and "sentient" like nowadays. Lightsabers could not be simply technology because that would not be trite enough for Disney. They have an innate need to turn the whole affair into a fairy tale (that does not make narrative sense) as much as they possibly could.
Saber bleeding is a pretty good idea in theory. It explains why Sith always have red sabers instead of red just being a fashion choice. A Sith deliberately bleeding his crystal makes sense as a rite of passage to prove that he's strong in the Dark Side. But I dislike Osha bleeding her crystal accidentally the first time she got mad. Disney went for style over consistency again.
Even with that thought process, the bleeding in Vader comics was without skin contact and it took Vader more than one try to bleed his crystal, to the point he saw an alternate future where anakin came back , but mae bleed the crystal just like that because reason
i agree with this full although the whole bleeding the kyber crystal thing works with george’s idea of kyber crystals the whole sith crystals are no longer synthetic breaks the lore for luke green saber as ( i belive and stand corrected ) he used the sith way of creating a synthetic kybercrystal but instead of putting his hatred and pain into the crystal he put his lightside atributes into it
His sabers are no different than most others on the market. He sells mass produced TXQ sabers. Of course he’s going to talk up his shop, but bro the sabers aren’t anything special nor are the prices. I don’t think he has his own customs yet. If you want something unique or higher quality, you’re better off with Sabertrio, Saber Bay, Saber Armory, etc..
@@chappelle23 that’s great. Don’t care really. Was a comment on the delivery of his statement. But hey thanks for being negative about something unnecessary. Love your content Theory, thank you n may the force be with you all
@@caspervonsmith4644 if you took my comment as negative, that's on you. I was pointing out that his are the same as most of the others on the market and you can find them for better prices, quality, and customized elsewhere. Content has nothing to do with what we were talking about... how many sabers have you purchased or built and sold?
3:37 this can't even be true, because in jedi survivor Dagan saber crystal was floating when he changed it to red, he literally doesn't touch it for the entire process
I’ve always thought that you would get a red crystal from your master. You would switch your Jedi crystal with the Sith one. That’s what I always thought. But then I watched your breakdown of Vader bleeding his crystal. Then with Dagan Gera bleeding his.
And also remember when bleeding a crystal was first brought up in the after Revenge of The Sith Darth Vader comics? Palpatine asks the newly born Darth Vader if he knew where red Kyber Crystals came from? Vader responded that the Jedi Archives had no mention of them. Also when we saw the bleeding in the Acolyte, I actually liked and found interesting that the bleeding of the blue crystal into red kinda looks like fresh blood being spilled in the blue ocean waters. Or seeing a needle insert something into the liquid.
Kyber crystals weren't around until the cartoons needed a Harry Potter sorting hat for the kids. It was a ditched idea in early movie drafts and even then wasn't exclusive to lightsaber design. In the OG novels a Jedi improvised with certain types of natural, found crystals and even some synthetics to create their sabers, each unique to their inventiveness. All of that was ditched because most people don't read, lol.
On episode 8, at time 25:19 when Osha was about to pick up Sol’s damage lightsaber, the crystal was exposed and was still blue. At 28:39, Osha is now holding the lightsaber and the crystal is now blue and red.
I think you just have to focus your anger specifically on the crystal. Dagan Gera used the force to bleed it, his hands weren't touching it. Osha seemed to be surprised when it was red, which doesn't make sense at all according to their previous lore, bleeding it is always something that is intentional.
I like the new canon version but it is extremely stupid that you can accidentally bleed a crystal. Same with force lightning, it does not happen by accident but instead the user must focus on the goal, the outcome. How will their hatred destroy everything around them for their own self gain. It gives you focus, which you must channel into the crystal to bend it to your will. I makes more sense that way in that Anakin didn’t know how to bleed a crystal and that he would’ve had to have done it on purpose.
Finally TH-cam sent me a notification for my favorite TH-camr. Feel like they’ve been trying to demonetize our general lately by not letting me know when new vids drop.
I liked how it was portrayed in Clone Wars TV show with younglings. Crystal color depends on person finding it and that's that. Also remember that in that arc with Vader bleeding his crystal, Palpatism sent him to kill Jedi Master without a weapon. Sounds familiar? And while I found idea neat, to Sith acquire their weapon by defeating an enemy, it doesn't make sense when they were hiding for millennia. Were they killing random Jedi to acquire crystals and no one got suspicious? Also if we assume Old Republic to be canon, that's a lot of red lightsabers, must have killed ton of Jedi before they started the war.
My own personal head cannon around Anakin was that he didn't fully "hate" to bleed into his crystal until after Mustafar, every thing before that he was blindly doing to save Padme really. And not until after his duel with ObiWan and Padme dying was he full of rage.
IF we want to benefit of the doubt, my thought would be, because Anakin seemed to show remorse. He did what he did to save Padme, so he wasn’t quite filled with hate and rage. Idk, my 2 cents
Even then that would be an inconsistency in of itself because Anakin gained sith eyes which are only obtained once you fully embrace the darkside and are focused in on such hatred and malice.
Honestly I think the idea that a certain color crystal would choose you for your affinity but still being able to cleanse a red crystal is a cool concept. But the older concept can still be true if they still create synthetic crystals
I quite like the "bleeding" your lightsaber idea. It makes sense and is a cool concept in itself. However...as it obviously breaks continuity with Anakin not bleeding his saber in Revenge, having Osha do this after one murder, I don't know...
To busy slaying children to bleed his crystal. His saber was rated E for everyone.
George Lucas wasn’t as good a writer as Lesley. She was a visionary with this series
@@HappyBob701 LMAO. shilling like yours is an art, you should be in a museum locked behind a glass panel.
@@HappyBob701 Please tell me this is sarcasm. Because you need to dunk your head in some ice water and get sober if it's not.
gotta get a kill streak before you go for the cybernetic upgrades
Lmao best comment 😂
They say you have to touch the kyber krystal with your skin to make it bleed, VADER HAD NO HANDS, and palpatine bled a shit load of them with only the force
My thoughts exactly. The only explanation I'm willing to stomach is that you have to be a certain level of strength and commitment to just bleed them through the force. Anakin didn't have yellow eyes the whole time to my recollection.
I thought it was because of mae throwing the saber and broke the crystal
The worst type of constipation.
@@rossjones8656 He did show sith eyes in the Mustafar scene when slaughtering the CIS leaders
@@smoke264 the whole time. It flashed up yes but it wasn't there permanently. Only that one zoom up and after getting sliced.
I'm quite surprised the lightsaber didn't just blow up when Osha ignited it. We've seen in The Clone Wars (The episodes where Ashoka accompany the younglings to get their crystals) that a crystal placed upside-down in the lightsaber can provoke an explosion when you try to ignite it. So a crystal being halfway out of the lightsaber...
Exactly bro makes no fcking sense
@@QuinlanVoss. Disney can't even get their own shit right. What's the point of paying $4BIL+ for something when you don't even use it right? Utter buffoonery to the max.
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Ahhh but you see, that would imply they actually watched their source material. They are too lazy to even do that.
@@carlosp.574 What's most dissappointing is Dave Filoni read the script and agreed upon it and approved it, yet it was him who wrote and directed that clone wars episode in reference.
I had always understood that a lightsaber’s blade color was determined solely by the color of the focusing crystal and not through any special connection with its wielder. Lightsabers in the prequel era were either blue or green because by that point Illum was the only remaining source of crystals and Illum only produced blue and green crystals. The other colors occasionally seen (yellow, purple) were those colors because they were using ancient crystals from long forgotten or otherwise expended sources. Red sabers were, as you say, synthetic.
Yeah that way is much better imo, ik star wars is supposed to be a blend of fantasy and sci fi or whatever but it seems like theyre tipping the scales towards fantasy more n more
"Because of bad writing" end of video
Whiny goof
Are you a professional writer? I don't think so.
@@SparkjointAnimationhe ain’t wrong
Facts
Theory shouldn't do videos on Disney Star Wars.
As a Star Wars fan, I get more entertainment watching Theory's channels over what Disney has to offer these days. I enjoy watching people like Nerdrotic, Drinker, Friday Nights, Real BBC, etc. Keep up the good work guys.
How the lightsaber didn’t obliterate her hand when she ignited it is beyond me. It was damaged to the point the crystal was poking out of the hilt and touching her skin. Parody levels of inconsistency with headlamp.
But talking droids and green ppl speaking English makes perfect sense right.
@@rafaelrincon133 lol what?
Cause for Disney a lightsabers is just like a glowin stick in universe as it is in real life
@@rafaelrincon133 Suspension of disbelief is hella important
@@rafaelrincon133 "Alexa. Tell me how it's possible for someone who isn't a native English speaker, to possibly learn English".
This is exactly what i was thinking. How STUPID was this...bleeding a crystal is a big deal (vadar struggled, Ben couldnt even do it fully, etc...) and they make it out to be PMS...
“BeCuZ hE dIDnT tOuCh dA kYbEr kRysTal!”Also because of Leslie’s ego
You don't actually need to touch it, people saying well she touched it so that's why, is a dumb excuses
Funny thing is he didn't touch it in the comics either. As he had both gloves on AND SYNTHETIC LIMBS.
@@ryanbaker5296I think there’s a part in Visions where someone changes the blade color by touching the hilt. also in Rebels Kaien during his training to be a knight when he grabbed a second lightsaber it was red, he was out matched, afraid/fearful, so when he grabbed the saber it was red. Idk how true this idea is as it was a weird illusion training thing but with how no natural crystal is red you could say his fear influenced the visor and change the saber without touching it
Also Sol saber is terribly made it broke when it was thrown really
@@awesomeguy9513 Visions is not canon
In canon we have seen crystal bleeding where the person does not need physical contact to do it
Haha for real, tell that to Dagan Gera Disney…
You’re a real one for actually attempting to explain this insanity, Theory 😭
Because Disney sw isn't Canon and doesn't make sense
I’d love to see them continue to fail and be forced to sell it. Forced to sell it to Elon, and he’ll retcon all of it.
I don’t consider Disney SW as cannon either.
What about anakin's lightsaber staying blue doesn't make sense
@@MysticISO because red light saber crystals were fake or you have to make the crystal bleed, a lightsaber isn't a mood ring
Go smell some grass brother. It’ll be okay lmao
I still say I prefer the bleeding the crystal method to the synthetic crystal method, to me it feels like a final step in truly turning to the Dark Side, but I liked it because it took time, it wasn't instant and you actually had to truly pour your hatred into it. But Osha just picks it up, and suddenly it's Red? It makes no sense, and it makes me dislike the bleeding the crystal concept because it's now become super inconsistent for no good reason. Because Vader didn't touch it? Who came up with that 😂
Disney contradicting itself as they created the concept of bleeding lightsaber crystals 😂
bleeding the crystals was actually way cooler than the original "synthetic crystals" in my opinion. The acolyte just seems to have shat on one of Disneys only cool ideas
Typical plot holes caused by the fact that later retcons are very poorly thought out and therefore do not fit well with the lore before it.
@@starwarsstuff8098yup exactly how I feel. Loved the comic run with it, hated the show portrayal.
@@starwarsstuff8098 me too
@@andrewfantome4020 I agree
Up until Acolyte. My assumption was that bleeding the crystal was a difficult process that required a lot of focus (that's how it appears in the Vader comics). So just being immersed in the darkside wasn't enough, you had to consciously bleed the crystal. However, now that idea has gone out of the window. Apparently, you can bleed a kyber crystal without even knowing it. I've got to do some mental gymnastics to make this fit in my head canon.
In Jedi Survivor, you free that weirdo high republic jedi from stasis and the first thing he does is open up his lightsaber and bleed his crystal in like 3 seconds lol, it was so strange
I’m down for the crystal bleeding aspect Disney introduced BUT why even do it this way. Have her kill Sol then show her bleeding the saber later on. Doing it this way makes people ask questions like this and then it forces Disney to scramble for an answer that sounds dumb and made up on the spot 🤣
i hate crystal bleeding it’s so dumb lightsabers aren’t mood rings
the reason is fanservice. its for the people that want to see it happen.
@@archdornan3694 on point af
I would only be okay with this if it took days or even weeks of meditation and the force with the crystal. The way Disney is doing it is stupid AF.
@archdornan3694 I thought Crystal Bleeding could be a cool idea but yeah, as it is currently, mood rings are an accurate description. I imagined the original idea of this with a true sith corrupting a crystal into a new form that would fit with how the Sith used the force. Manipulating and twisting it.
I also hate how she just looks confused as she's bleeding it. It's like she's surprised it's happening, even though it should be a raw output of rage and anger, forcing the crystal to change.
because leslye headland didn’t think about it
It's because it had to be blue are you that dense
This doesn’t even make sense lol
Disney, not Headland, but she sucks too lol
@@MysticISO???
@@MysticISOI guess we are. The heck are you talking about?
I'm just confused how the energy still projects perfectly through the emitter matrix and doesn't shoot out the side of the saber...
Yes, Osha filled with so much anger and rage, you can see it in her face **rolls eyes**
literally the same face every scene lmao
Her range of emotion could be measured in single digits of molecules.
Uh-huh.
Because you can totally see the rage in Vader's eyes when he eventually bleeds his. **rolls eyes**
@@ReclaimerTyphoon Never happened. There is no such thing as "bleeding a crystal" in real Star Wars.
@@ReclaimerTyphoon but seriously, Amandla Stenberg either had trash direction or doesn't know what rage is supposed to be.
The funniest thing about this crystal bleeding thing was in Jedi Survivor, when you bring that high republic jedi out of whatever stasis he was in, and the very first thing he does is pull out the lightsaber crystal in front of Cal and bleed it red. Like he just instantly decided "Oh yeah guess I'm sith now"
You see, Disney’s answer to her touching the crystal still doesn’t add up because in Jedi: Survivor, Dagan Gera never physically touched his Kyber Crystal when bleeding his Crystal. So Disney’s answer here is just a BS excuse to say that Osha was bleeding that crystal.
Plus I really feel if anyone bleeds a Kyber Crystal in Star Wars, it should be done with intent to bleed the Crystal, not just some passive thing happening without realizing it, otherwise, Anakin’s Kyber Crystal would’ve turned red in Episode II and III
Yep, also the saber should have exploded they forgot about Kylo and how he needed vent's on his saber to stop his cracked crystal from going boom
Why are you twits listening to disney?
Exactly
@@thejoker7710 some people have attempted to justify this by saying "well Dagan is incredibly skilled in the Force and Telekinesis", but that still doesn't mean sense. Because the explanation for why Occupational Safety and Health Administration turning her crystal red is PHYSICAL CONTACT.
I would also argue this point couldn't be used because they used the same explanation for Dagan as for how Ray used a Jedi mind trick, despite not knowing what that was. Saying "well Ray is incredibly poweful", the defenders of Disney SW don't and can't have consistent argumentation, because they only work in vacuums of one another, resulting in them backpeddling on excusing the poor writing, because they aren't making an argument, rather they are coping
I think the reason they went with color-changing lightsaber is because it was a safer way of making her "switch sides" rather than showing her turning evil with the yellow/red eyes, like Anakin in Revenge of the Sith, especially since the Jedi were presented as being all sorts of corrupt in the Acolyte.
I actually like the concept of Sith bleeding the crystal red but not in the way the Acolyte presented it. It would be a focused ritual, hours of channeling their hatred and rage into the crystal until it becomes corrupt, something that would take focus and commitment to the dark side to pull off. It would not be something that merely happens as one embraces the dark side but only after one becomes entangled and corrupted by it (the Sith eyes as one sign of it). It would be a rite of passage, their absolute embrace of the dark side, something that a Jedi still connected to the light side would not be able to succeed in. Thus the sight of a red lightsaber would not merely indicate a dark side user but one committed to the dark side of the Force.
I remember hunting for the correctly coloured crystals in KOTOR games, I must have been doing it wrong ...
legendary games and stories. I really don’t like the bleeding thing but it’s whatever
@@Quickscript honestly i think it works.
they could ahve simply had it that they have the crystal seeking ritual and then they'd corrupt them.
Funny you mention that. KOTOR2 introduced an Ego Crystal that was changing due to aligment of the user
@@piotrbuczulinski9369 yeah but it didn't affect the color
@@vereor66 yes because color crystals were separate. What was only for gameplay purposes so anyone can have every color no matter the stats
Also... isn't the lightsaber she was holding while she bled the crystal exposed on the hilt? Wouldn't the energy come shooting right out on the side and just obliterate her arm?
Disney actually said it’s skin contact? I thought it was the darkside of the force being used on the bare crystal. Like Dagan Gera wasn’t holding his crystal when it changed, it was floating in his hand. Yeah Osha was touching it but she was using the darkside to kill Sol. Vader poured all his rage into it using the force and was able to succeed, despite the lightside trying to turn him back with the vision and the crystal resisting his will.
Yeah bare crystal out of a saber. Held in hand or more than likely by the force while you torture it with the force. It takes intent and concentration. You cant do it by happenstance just because you're angry at the dude in front of youwhile holding a saber.
@@charliedulin Precisely.
Didn't seem like the crystal resisted her will, however. The problem is it looked like it took zero effort with successful first attempt even, unlike those stronger and more experienced in the Dark Side, such as Vader. It's ridiculous beyond belief. Vader couldn't even do it right away and yet she, someone with *zero* experience with the Dark side, could do it from the jump?! Plus, it should've exploded. Yet another element of canon further broken by Disney. It has been established in the Younglings arc in S6 of George Lucas and Dave Filoni's The Clone Wars that if the crystal isn't inserted properly into the hilt or is upside down, then it will cause an immediate explosion upon ignition of which Clone Wars followed up on. Lesbian Headlamp's lore breaking and contradicting show, however? Not really....
@@Vandicoup Thing with Vader though is it wasn’t his crystal, it was taken from a Jedi he had no connection with. Also he had the lightside vision trying to redeem him. The fact he overcame both shows how powerful he really is. Dagan bled his own crystal so had no trouble. Jedi have strong connections to their crystals so I think when Sol submitted to her killing him the crystal also submitted. That’s how I try to make sense of it anyway. Definitely right the saber should have exploded when she turned it on though, that would have been more entertaining 😂
@@Vandicoup How come the lightsaber is introduced as a weapon capable of cutting through anything, yet luke uses it like a club during the jabbas barge fight?
it's crazy to me that people are more concerned that the original films don't align with the acolyte, instead of being upset that the acolyte doesn't align with the original movies
I just don’t understand how it took Vader so much effort to change his crystal, with all the years of built up anger and hate, and it takes Osha like nothing
Well the reason for this is because Vader was bleeding another jedi's crystal that's why it was fighting back.
It makes Osha bleeding it look even more stupid because it was sol's saber
It's because there was a bunch of movies before the living crystal stuff was even canon. It was never like this. So, they had a whooollleee bunch of movies to retcon with the new lightsaber mood ring trash.
his skin never touches the crystal
@@max_coast indeed
I always thought the reason Anakin didn’t have a red saber was because : one… he hadn’t gotten to that point yet and two:… he always thought of himself as still being a good guy, not a Jedi, just doing what in his mind was right. As so when he told Obi-wan “from my point of view, the Jedi are evil”.
Right? If it was just a matter of *doing* evil, then his crystal would have bled when he *murdered* Dooku, etc.
That's... just not true
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There is also a cutscene in Jedi: Survivor where Cal basically revives a High Republic Jedi (I forget the name, sorry), and as he’s recounting what happened to him, his emotions over power him, all while he’s doing that disassembling/reassembling lightsaber meditation thing, then his crystal turns red through sheer overpowering emotion which imo, is a much better take on how it can change to red
We as fans shouldn’t recognize Disney Star Wars as canon
They should re-release episode III with Anakin having a red saber after Windu's death
Can we address the fact OSHA ignited a damaged saber Hilt, with a loose and dislocated crystal that is exposed
Yeah, I thought about that. Wouldn’t that have burned a hole in her hand?
They'll probably say some stuff like Qimir was secretly using the force to prevent it from blowing up in her hands LMAO
@@KingShibe ye, that still doesn’t explain how and where the blade should come out😂
@@KingShibe That's literally the only explanation that would actually work & make sense, because Kylo Ren's cracked crystal would have exploded his lightsaber in his hands if he didn't add the exhaust vents.
That damaged saber is an OSHA violation waiting to happen! *rimshot*
I'd be happy if Disney addressed the acolyte as a "what if." variant. It would still be complete trash but at least it wouldn't ruin so many characters. Then we wouldn't care what happens or what doesn't make sense as much.
I don't mind the change from synthetic crystals to 'bleeding' the crystal (I actually think the Ahsoka thing with the white crystals was really cool) but I think it should be an intentional event where you focus on the crystal and imbue your hatred and vengeance into the crystal, which Anakin didn't do at that point as he still saw himself as the good guy (though the blending in theory is pretty good too). Osha's bleeding of the crystal made about as much sense as naming someone after the Occupational Safety and Health Administration.
It is supposed to be. You are purposely torturing the crystal with the dark side.
If you have to explain a plot hole in your show every day, you’re show doesn’t deserve a season 2 OR a season 1
The idea that lightsaber turn red when you go bad is for me so stupid I cannot put it into words. At best is just childish.
They saw the Hasbro Anakin Skywalker Color Changing Lightsaber from 2005 and were inspired.
I don't fully get that. That's literally the explanation from George Lucas himself, including the moment when Sam Jackson got his purple lightsaber where George was explaining to him what Blue/Green and Red were. Blue/Green were good, Red was bad. That's how it's always been in Star Wars. There were good guys and there were the bad guys. It always been this simple, 1 dimensional, yin and yang type thing since the literal beginning. Disney made it even more simpler by turning lightsabers into mood rings now which is definitely truly terrible. But the original meaning wasn't all that far off anyways. Again, per George himself during the ROTS documentary: Blue/Green means good, red means bad.
"Star Wars is a franchise for 12 year olds. / The movies were made for children, but they don't wanna admit that." -- George Lucas during a panel and an interview back in the day....
@@Vandicoup nobody is arguing what you just said....i think your completely missing the point, there was lore as to how that color comes about before disney....theory literally goes over this in the video.
@@Vandicoup Yes, but you're putting the cart before the horse. It's not that the lightsabers change color for whoever picks it up. It's that they have different methods of building lightsabers, so they have different colors. A jedi could pick up a red lightsaber no problem, just as sith can fight with blue lightsabers. The lightsabers wouldn't change color, that's not what George meant.
I think this new reasoning was inspired by KOTOR 2. KOTOR 2 has ONE specific Crystal which is perfectly aligned with the player. Its properties were attuned perfectly to the player character and change based on alignment. If you kept making bad choices the player named Crystal would be restricted to dark side users. If you then turned to the light you’d have to talk to Kreia so she could realign the Crystal to attune to the players new condition. So it would go from a dark side restriction to light side. The thing about this was it had absolutely no impact on the colour of the blade. That was determined by what kyber Crystal was inserted into it. The idea of channeling properties into the crystals is very similar to how Disney Star Wars approach it.
Wouldn't the kaiber crystal being exposed mean that the lightsaber is unstable? And that's Disney rules too, kaiber crystals are incredibly unstable and if not properly contained and regulated then they would burst out the sides like Kylo Ren's. At worst it should explode, and at best cut into Osha's hand.
Yep but they kinda forgot lol
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Answer: Retcon
Soooo stupidddddd
Answer it had to be blue for ep 4 and 5 cause they were made first
Unlike Anakin, she was touching the crystal which allowed her to bleed it surprisingly easily. Simple as that
It's funny because the "must be touching" argument falls flat because of Dagen in Jedi Survivor. 🤣
Another thing to point out is that because of the Youngling arc, the crystals were all blue, despite the fact that some later had green sabers during a pre-disney era... but idk, maybe that is easily explained.
Colourless crystals were shown as blue for some reason. Probably artistic choice.
It's the same case for the crystal you get in fallen order and also the comic where Luke gets his green crystal.
Also.... vader has no arms... only robot limbs were touching it 😂
I always had it that the colour represented the mindset and personality of the youngling as they went to find their crystal. Green was for more introspective people, those leaning more on thought and foresight rather than action... ie those that were called "Consulars". Often also very dedicated to communing with the Force.
Blue was for those more attuned to action rather than foresight, warriors and guardians. Whereas yellow was for those of an inquisitive bent, explorers, investigators, sentinels.
And the reason why Sith used synthetic crystals was pretty simple... they did not have access to a world where they could find natural ones for a long time. Which in turn led to a disregard for that whole tradition even at times when they could find them more readily. For a Sith basically any crystal will do.
I do sort of like the "bleeding" thing, but making it essentially a mood ring is just too much. And it should be a deliberate thing requiring alot of "negative" emotion and focus on the dark side.
//Disney Star Wars is basically mostly garbage. Force Awakens started good, and got worse as it rolled... rest of that trilogy was awful. Rogue One was good. Mando was mostly good. And the rest was pretty much average at best, mostly alot worse, aside from Andor.
But Disney has even managed to turn Marvel into a franchise that is mostly bleeding money. And Star Wars is pretty much dead.
2:04 There were actually red natural Adegan crystals in legends. Vader replaced his synthetic crystal with an Adegan one around the time of the Empire Strikes Back.
Adi Ghalia actually had a red saber around the time of the Phantom Menace, likely using a natural crystal. When Maul emerged and Sith begin to expose themselves, she replaced it with green/blue
Exactly, and if I remember correctly, even the red color of synthetic crystals was simply the basic color obtained from creating the crystal by that method, it was not necessarily indicative of the dark side. With further adjustments it was possible to obtain other colors as well.
Infusing the crystals with dark energy was for the purpose of making them stronger, but it shouldn’t be a procedure that guarantees obtaining the color red. Am I wrong?
@@3mber344 100% this. I miss the legends stuff. I'm not a fan of the Harry Potter sorting hat that is kyber crystals. I really liked the fact that a Jedi had to work and improvise in the construction of their saber and that the color was a conscious allegiance choice more than some stupid mood ring.
@@max_coast agreed %100. Much better lore compared to this retcon...
@@3mber344 Yeah the Crystal in Luke's 2nd Lightsaber in Return of the Jedi was an artificial one he made.
And we all know that one is green.
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Tbh if the lightsaber was damaged, you'd think it would've blown up on her hand or just wouldn't work because the crystal would be out of its place.
They completely forgot about Kylo lol
like shooting a gun without the hammer pin.
I really do enjoy the 'bleeding' aspect of saber crystals, I do not like that you must be in physical contact with it. I completely agree with you on that it take you out of the immersion. My personal head cannon was that Osha was looking for an outlet for her anger and rage and ended up subconsciously bleeding Sol's crystal, and Anakin didn't so until Sideous told him to. Its not perfectly thought out but it still keeps me feeling like the Star Wars universe didn't break overnight.
The Separatists were blocking trade ports which would’ve resulted in perfectly good red lightsaber deliveries, this is why Palpatine was the real hero!
I liked the synthetic red crystal since it seemed to really tie into the “quick and easy” way of the dark side. The Jedi way is a spiritual journey whereas the Sith way is more efficient and pragmatic.
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I like the both but the idea of Sith BLEEDING kyber crystals is so interesting to me. It also makes sense, the Dark Side is the quick and easy path. A Sith is basically cheating to get a crystal and making a mockery of the Jedi's deep meditation and connection to the crystal but forcing it to obay vs becoming one with the crystal.
>It also makes sense, the Dark Side is the quick and easy path
For me it doesn't, because I don't see any benefits that the red lightsaber brings to the table.
If anything, it makes you immediately exposed as a dark side user.
@@Vladislav888 that is fair especially when we are in the Rule of Two era and the Sith are trying to remain hidden.
I think it's more symbolic than a physical benefit. It shows your truly commitment to the Dark Side. But that's just what I think.
@@SkywalkerAcademy-oi4fb If I remember correctly, red crystals were synthetic in the original lore.
I would argue that it both makes more sense and more thematically appropriate.
It makes sense because jedi probably protect all of the lightsaber crystal sources, so the Sith have to make do.
It's thematically appropriate because Sith are materialistic and their lightsabers are merely tools of war with no personal attachment.
@@Vladislav888 that's probably the best reasoning for the synthetic red crystals I've heard and it makes complete sense.
The only Sith who would know the location of Kyber Crystals would be former Jedi but I don't many Sith took fallen Jedi as apprentices anyways because what if they turn to the Light? They risk exposure.
@@SkywalkerAcademy-oi4fb yeah, the greatest Sith Lords like Exar Kun and Ajunta Pall were not former Jedi at all. Clearly you know so much about Star Wars and hence your excitement about "bleeding period" for crystals :P
1:57
LMAO the editor be wild. I was thinking the same thing!!!
dagan took his crystal out and bled it immediately then put it back in. it even caused a shockwave that pushed cal back so dunno how it can change like that
@@bulbasaur145 at least he had some effect but it would've been cooler if they left it yellow and the next fight have it red
I'm pretty sure Dagan didn't even make physical contact with the crystal to make it bleed. But of course Disney is only concerned with Canon, when people point it out to them, despite that they should already be concerned with Canon, regardless of if we point it out
@@krnatsu he didn't
@@trashcho_homeles I thought so, but needed confirmation. Count on Disney to have 0 consistency when it comes to what is and isn't canon
@@krnatsu u didn't knew or u forgot? Yeah ik they like to contradict themselves a lot lol
Mood ring is such a sad analogy for kyber crystals. They took crystallizations of the living force that resonated with their users being and turned it into an accessory. Love how you took depth and width from the volume that light saber crystals were, good on you Disney.
So I guess Didney retconned Jedi Survivor's Bleeding of a Kyber Crystal
I always thought that Anakin didn't have time to channel his dark force into the crystal as the events did happen so fast.
Because Revenge of the sith is good
@Star Wars Theory you kinda messed up/mixed up the 3 main kyber crystal colors meaning the Jedi generally used in the EU/George Lucas Era the real meaning of the 3 Kyber Crystal colors meaning are:
Green- Represents growth, safety, harmony, helpfulness, cooperation, and spirituality these where used by the Jedi Consular's (Like the Jedi Healers, Historians, ect.)
Blue - represented justice, righteousness, and bravery, these where used by the Jedi Guardians who where more martially inclined.
Yellow- Represents those who balanced combat with scholarly pursuits, these where mainly wielded by Jedi Sentinels, Jedi Shadows and by Temple Guards.
Hope this helped refreshed your memory and clarified the misinformation
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I prefer the KOTOR way of how the colour works. You just choose the colour crystal you wanted... THAT'S ALL WE NEEDED!!!!
Funny thing is Vader never actually touched the crystal as he had both gloves on and his arms were synthetic.
"Ive been looking forward to this" - Dooku
Touching it doesn’t explain Dagan Gera bleeding his because he never touched it. Disney with the most consistent writing yet again
And the fact that the saber did not blow up they completely forgot about Kylo's saber needing vents because his crystal was cracked
That very short appearance of Ray while you were explaining the yellow Lightsaber got me laughing lmao
Wait a second. In Star Wars Jedi survivor Dagan also bled his crystal at least partially so it turned reddish orange, but I'm pretty sure that he was levitating it in the air with the force. I might be misremembering but I'm pretty sure that's how that went.
You’re correct.
Nah you right the whole physical contact thing is a poor excuse
Had to rewatch that cutscene. Can confirm, He did not in fact touch the crystal. Good Lord Disney the game came out literally last year... Not that much of a deep dive.
I will never forget how cool it felt to walk into the crystal cave in kotor II and get the little cutscene where kreia tells me to feel the crystal calling out in the Force
Can we talk about lightsaber construction for a second?
From what I recall the lightsaber has 4 main components (not including the kyber). The hilt, the power cell, the crystal matrix & the focusing lens.
The lightsaber that was "bled" in the acoltye had a broken hilt ( so that physical contact could be made with the crystal). This would also mean that the crystal matrix is at the very least misaligned if not also broken. That alone should mean there should have been a violent energetic reaction as soon as the lightsaber was powered. Lastly the saber in the Acolyte totally lacks a focusing lens, That means that there is no way for the energy to be focused into a tight beam.
This is not real Star Wars, that was your mistake, In real Star Wars, there are things besides the Force, like technology. not everything is "magic" and "sentient" like nowadays. Lightsabers could not be simply technology because that would not be trite enough for Disney. They have an innate need to turn the whole affair into a fairy tale (that does not make narrative sense) as much as they possibly could.
You are overthinking it Hawk
Saber bleeding is a pretty good idea in theory. It explains why Sith always have red sabers instead of red just being a fashion choice. A Sith deliberately bleeding his crystal makes sense as a rite of passage to prove that he's strong in the Dark Side. But I dislike Osha bleeding her crystal accidentally the first time she got mad. Disney went for style over consistency again.
Even with that thought process, the bleeding in Vader comics was without skin contact and it took Vader more than one try to bleed his crystal, to the point he saw an alternate future where anakin came back , but mae bleed the crystal just like that because reason
i agree with this full although the whole bleeding the kyber crystal thing works with george’s idea of kyber crystals the whole sith crystals are no longer synthetic breaks the lore for luke green saber as ( i belive and stand corrected ) he used the sith way of creating a synthetic kybercrystal but instead of putting his hatred and pain into the crystal he put his lightside atributes into it
The plug towards the end…. “Unlike theory sabers” lol.
His sabers are no different than most others on the market. He sells mass produced TXQ sabers. Of course he’s going to talk up his shop, but bro the sabers aren’t anything special nor are the prices. I don’t think he has his own customs yet. If you want something unique or higher quality, you’re better off with Sabertrio, Saber Bay, Saber Armory, etc..
@@chappelle23fairly sure he's released like two custom sabers already
@@aurons_own5017 i just did a quick look on his site he just has everything grouped under “All Products” ill have to find them to see what the deal is
@@chappelle23 that’s great. Don’t care really. Was a comment on the delivery of his statement. But hey thanks for being negative about something unnecessary.
Love your content Theory, thank you n may the force be with you all
@@caspervonsmith4644 if you took my comment as negative, that's on you. I was pointing out that his are the same as most of the others on the market and you can find them for better prices, quality, and customized elsewhere.
Content has nothing to do with what we were talking about... how many sabers have you purchased or built and sold?
3:37 this can't even be true, because in jedi survivor Dagan saber crystal was floating when he changed it to red, he literally doesn't touch it for the entire process
"Oh yeah it didnt work for Anakin because he didnt have his thumb on the crystal 🤪🤪🤪"
Do they not understand how absurd that sounds?
Then when he tried as Vader he had no thumbs. That's ableist. Shame on you, Disney. 😂
I’ve always thought that you would get a red crystal from your master. You would switch your Jedi crystal with the Sith one. That’s what I always thought.
But then I watched your breakdown of Vader bleeding his crystal. Then with Dagan Gera bleeding his.
I'd imagine igniting the lightsaber when the crystal is touching your skin would lead to some severe burning.
And also remember when bleeding a crystal was first brought up in the after Revenge of The Sith Darth Vader comics? Palpatine asks the newly born Darth Vader if he knew where red Kyber Crystals came from? Vader responded that the Jedi Archives had no mention of them. Also when we saw the bleeding in the Acolyte, I actually liked and found interesting that the bleeding of the blue crystal into red kinda looks like fresh blood being spilled in the blue ocean waters. Or seeing a needle insert something into the liquid.
Kyber crystals weren't mood stones before Disney lol
Kyber crystals weren't around until the cartoons needed a Harry Potter sorting hat for the kids. It was a ditched idea in early movie drafts and even then wasn't exclusive to lightsaber design. In the OG novels a Jedi improvised with certain types of natural, found crystals and even some synthetics to create their sabers, each unique to their inventiveness. All of that was ditched because most people don't read, lol.
On episode 8, at time 25:19 when Osha was about to pick up Sol’s damage lightsaber, the crystal was exposed and was still blue. At 28:39, Osha is now holding the lightsaber and the crystal is now blue and red.
Short answer it had to stay blue so that Obi Wan can give it to Luke Skywalker 18 years later
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Obi-Wan’s lightsaber basically fell down a canyon on Utapou and still worked lol
He clearly was better at building solidly constructed sabers than other Jedi.
I think you just have to focus your anger specifically on the crystal. Dagan Gera used the force to bleed it, his hands weren't touching it. Osha seemed to be surprised when it was red, which doesn't make sense at all according to their previous lore, bleeding it is always something that is intentional.
6:15.... they got the sabers from Walmart that's why Sol's broke😂😂😂
I like the new canon version but it is extremely stupid that you can accidentally bleed a crystal. Same with force lightning, it does not happen by accident but instead the user must focus on the goal, the outcome. How will their hatred destroy everything around them for their own self gain. It gives you focus, which you must channel into the crystal to bend it to your will. I makes more sense that way in that Anakin didn’t know how to bleed a crystal and that he would’ve had to have done it on purpose.
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I'm not even a member and I received the notification. Bugs happen sometimes
I liked how it was portrayed in Clone Wars TV show with younglings. Crystal color depends on person finding it and that's that. Also remember that in that arc with Vader bleeding his crystal, Palpatism sent him to kill Jedi Master without a weapon. Sounds familiar? And while I found idea neat, to Sith acquire their weapon by defeating an enemy, it doesn't make sense when they were hiding for millennia. Were they killing random Jedi to acquire crystals and no one got suspicious? Also if we assume Old Republic to be canon, that's a lot of red lightsabers, must have killed ton of Jedi before they started the war.
The idea of bleeding crystals can do die in a garbage fire.
My own personal head cannon around Anakin was that he didn't fully "hate" to bleed into his crystal until after Mustafar, every thing before that he was blindly doing to save Padme really. And not until after his duel with ObiWan and Padme dying was he full of rage.
In all of movies and shows i have seen in my entire life. Leslie is by far one of the worst writers out there.
If the force is in everything and everyone why didnt General Grevious bleed his lightsabers? He had some skin left to touch the crystalss
IF we want to benefit of the doubt, my thought would be, because Anakin seemed to show remorse.
He did what he did to save Padme, so he wasn’t quite filled with hate and rage.
Idk, my 2 cents
Even then that would be an inconsistency in of itself because Anakin gained sith eyes which are only obtained once you fully embrace the darkside and are focused in on such hatred and malice.
@@DarkRavenWolf50 fair point.
Only SW, to me, is 1-6 and Clone Wars 1-6. S7 was so-so
@@DarkRavenWolf50 wasn’t there scenes where anakin's eyes not pure yellow after the first reveal? It probably doesn't help but it's something.
Polish noooo that's not how that works
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I can answer this one
It’s bc anything Disney makes isn’t Star Wars
So Rogue One and Andor aren't Star Wars.. LMAO OK right.
@@Tom-je4iq yep I’m over it
Bad batch clone wars season 7 rebels Mandolorian
@@rileywebster2008 for me it stops after 6 and the 2D clone wars.
I wish they’d get rid of the bleeding thing lol just different colored crystals or synthetic red was a perfectly simple and elegant explanation imo.
I always remember the old Darth Maul book where he's sitting in front of a hot furnace for days crafting his synthetic crystal. So badass.
Your explanation for Vaders lightsaber not turning at the Jedi temple makes the most sense
I don't consider Disney Star Wars as cannon.
Legends is now cannon.
Honestly I think the idea that a certain color crystal would choose you for your affinity but still being able to cleanse a red crystal is a cool concept. But the older concept can still be true if they still create synthetic crystals
I quite like the "bleeding" your lightsaber idea. It makes sense and is a cool concept in itself. However...as it obviously breaks continuity with Anakin not bleeding his saber in Revenge, having Osha do this after one murder, I don't know...
As kid i always thought they use the force and not press a button to light up the lightsaber