Its funny because they back pedal on both arguments. "X thing if for everyone" *people don't like it "well this wasn't made for you". They back pedal because they don't have a grounded or rational position, it is purely an addiction to COPium
The strong female lead and blatant feminine weak males. It just seems forced. Someone recently told me that there has NEVER been a masculine hero in star wars until Mando... craziest thing I've ever heard. These are the troglodytes that like this crap. They have blinders on.
7:51 I suppose Leslye didn't watch the "making of" videos from the prequels. You literally see George surrounded by artists who pitch ideas and help him. He doesn't come up with every detail himself, nor does he reject everything.
@@misterweitphart3821He would often give general descriptions of what he was looking for. Other times he knew exactly what he wanted. It was a team effort. Take the design of General Grievous for example. Look it up from the ROTS featurette.
Yeah. I cant remember if it was Adam savage, but a model designer asked George about some minor detail and George was like, that's your job to make that. If you think its should be there, it should be there.
You guys remember when it started going really bad, and we started specifying it as ‘Disney Star Wars?’ This is on another level, this is Leslye Headlands Star Wars.
I really want to know what kind of dirt she has on everyone that she can get away with all these things. "I want to put Yoda in" "No, that's not a good idea" "You want me to share that stuff I have on you?" "You can put Yoda in the show"
She's an envious woman.. She can't create nothing by herself, so the only thing that she might do is create a series based on the universe that someone else created. Maybe she's the creator of Acoytle, but Star Wars doesn't belong to her.
You'd think she was referring to the characters and not saying these things in 1st person. Give a terrible person an opportunity like this lets you know the kind of person running the company.
What the hell is Osha's triumph? She's lost her sister again, in a fit of rage killed her father figure, and she's been corrupted by the dark side... she's taken a massive L here there's no triumph lmao
Every time Headland talks about Osha and Qimir I get the impression that she glorifies murder. They did not escape some sort of oppression. They committed murder and escaped prosecution. The Sith-Code is about elevating oneself above any rule and any law, dominating others through the means of raw power. It is not about escaping oppression but becoming the oppressor. That is the Sith's freedom.
I'm taking two things from this: One is that she threw around misogny, but then has a story that contains misogny and a demeaning representation of women. The second is that Osha's "Triumph" was that she sided with the man who killed her friends, murdered her master, and violated her sister.
Paramount plus halo = producers who don't care about lore Amazon rings of power= producers who don't care about lore Disney star wars. It's a common trend. People have to realize how people with no talent or care are being hired to run these big IPs
Are you saying Star Wars isn't for everyone, or are you saying a creator shouldn't have a personal connection to their creation? If you don't have a point to make, maybe you just shouldn't try.
@@milward4563bro what are you yapping about? This comment just outlines Headland’s hypocrisy… next time, read the whole comment before making an insult disguised as a “point”
So, just gotta ask here... Does anyone else's skin crawl whenever she refers to "Osha's Triumph" in these interviews? Like, does she even realize what she wrote? She was completely passive through most of the show, and then she decided to ... what... fall in love with the murderer who kidnapped her, to eventually murder the man who saved her life and protected her, on the word of someone who tried to burn her alive... then stood by while that same person got her mind destroyed so she could leave her to her own devices and run off with her murdering kidnapper boyfriend? This is her "Triumph"?
@AnoneemusNoename I agree with almost all of that except I disagree that the show paints the Jedi as the villain and the bad guys as good. Only in their eyes. There seems to be a lot of subtle criticisms of “the agenda” embedded in the show that is supposedly filled with an agenda. Dare I say parts of it are actually based from a certain point of view.
@AnoneemusNoename Goddamn. That's a really good take on the movie Fight Club. You're right that we aren't supposed to root for any of those characters at all.
They were gonna KISS??? Did they just forget that Qimir killed Jecki? Her and Osha were friends, she wasn't a bad guy or an oppressor, Osha should still be mad about that - considering it happened like a couple days ago. Jecki was one of the best characters in the show, and they've just written off her death as an insignificant event and that infuriates me.
could have been worse. just imagine she would have stumbled over the iron of some male Jedi , used for flatting his Toga, and broke her Neck. And dont tell me this show wont be able to do such Things.
The real reason Yoda went to exile in Episode 3 is because he cameo in the Acolyte. Those 3 seconds of screen time were the most painful moments of his entire 900 year old life. It was worse than appearing in the Sequels. Poor Grand Master...
One of the ways everything could be saved is that George buys the company back and then, does a singular (but pivotable) show like Rogue One. In it Master Yoda is in his quarters at the Jedi Temple on Coruscant. He is startled awake from a bad dream and relays all the details to the Council. All the things would be from the time Disney owned the company. Then the continuity would be restored and it’ll segue into 20 years before the Phantom Menace.
Should flip to a youngling class and the instructor saying 'so you see from this instructional video why you are warned about emotional attachments and how they lead to corruption.'
"It's my show" "No one has the answers!" Umm..maybe the dude who created it does? How did they even allow someone who clearly has zero respect for the source material to write a freaking prequel?! Unreal.
Another good ole Kathleen Kennedy "F" up. She has single handedly destroyed Star Wars! It's almost like she has a grudge against George. Like she's purposefully destroying the franchise. It's weird....
This show is a tell all for Harvey’s former assistant. It’s also like multiverse Star Wars it’s not part of the main timeline it’s part of an alternate universe.
Fanfictions are inherently "handicapped" in a way, George R Martin has a interesting take about it (even if the guy messed up with ASoIaF, I mostly agree with his opinion about fanfiction)
Don't worry, the same Hollywood types working on Star Wars are now sticking their fingers into Tolkien's work. Now that his family have cashed out, it will only be a matter of time before they ruin it all. We thought The Rings of Power was bad LOL.
Knowing the lore of a show and respecting the lore of the show is 2 very different things. Leslye Headland can claim to know Star Wars all she wants but in the end it's the fruits of her labor (the Acolyte show) that will speak for themselves in terms of her respecting Star Wars. As they say, actions speak louder than words.
I'd be shocked if she doesn't have tons of info on people at Disney or something similar. Only way it makes sense this bimbo was given $180 mil to do literally whatever she wanted
It's not HER show. It's like renting a flat or house. Within reason you can paint the walls, put up painting or pictures, you furnish it how you wish up to a point, with permission. But you can't just knock a wall through or build a patio or balcony. Any writer and director basically rents a room in the house of star wars and are at liberty to do the former to a point, but my no means the latter! Lego Headlamp has basically knocked all the walls through and built a balcony on the flat because she wanted an open plan with an outside space.
Poor Yoda. Though he may be an enemy of the Empire, I feel bad for him having to be in this show. I wouldn’t wish such a fate upon even my worst enemy.
@FreshDougan I pray they cancel that shit how they can make a season 2 with the ratings is just absolutely crazy to me. And I mean the viewer ratings not the bullshit critics that have to say good things because if not they would be called homophoobic or racist whatever they wanna say that day for there excuse
There’s such a difference to how Leslye talks (‘it’s my show’) and how all the Mando directors talk in Gallery episodes talking about stewarding this precious universe and stories that belong to everyone
After this series S1 Finale, I am already retconning it in my own head. This show never happened, none of it makes sense because it literally goes against everything known about Star Wars. Leslye wasn't trying to intro new material into the continuity, she was trying to make her own continuity. "And that, is why she failed!"
@sirfrancipal2187 it's my right to disregard this show as Canon to the rest of Star Wars if I want, even if it makes me arrogant and wrong. But you have no right to tell me my opinion doesn't matter. Be careful what you say, and who you say it to. Don't invalidate anyone just to prove a point, like Leslye Headland did with this show.
I've realised that Leslye Headland isn't incompetent. None of these errors are mistakes. I think she's flamebaiting us. I genuinely think she wants the drama so she can start a fight with the community and try to hold some holier than thou highground over us by throwing political arguments at us. Ki-Adi Mundi is the most obvious example of this. His role was so minor, it could have been given to any nameless Jedi grunt. She chose to use a character who outright says that the Sith have been extinct for a millenia because she knew it would stir an argument. He was such an awful choice for his role in the show that I honestly can't believe it was simply sloppiness. This show has broken records for the amount of mistakes and lore-breaking plot points it has produced. I would understand the occasional slip up for a bit of creative freedom, but she's done something stupid in every episode I just honestly can't fathom the idea of that being a mistake. This whole show was just a massive display of ego, and I really hope that her bosses force her to rectify as much of it as possible for season 2.
If anything, episode 7 is flawed on so many levels I can't call her competent in her directing and writing. Yes she wants to stir the pot, out of spite, but don't mistake her narscissism for competence and cleverness.
Ki-Adi heard from Qui-Gon that he was attacked by someone using a red lightsaber and Qui-Gon directly claimed he was a Sith, yet Ki still didn't believe the Sith were back. He knew far less in Acolyte, only that Mae was supposedly killing Jedi and that she claimed to not know the identity of her master. No one said her master might be a Sith and no one had seen a red lightsaber yet in the show. The show was garbage, but Ki is technically consistent. What exactly about the info he had in the show would require him to think the Sith were back when he denies it even when Qui-Gon was attacked by Maul with a red saber? And since Sol was blamed for the killings, the Jedi who knew about Mae likely believe he was Mae's secret master. And if they do learn about Smilo Ren, he was a padawan, so they would believe he was just a fallen Jedi, not an actual Sith.
@@Fardawg You do make a valid point, Ki-Adi Mundi doesn't explicitly get told that Qimir is Sith. However, he is aware of a powerful and adept dark side user and while following the events of episode 8 it is reasonable to assume the wider Jedi order never learn about the Sith returning with Sol's death being the last Jedi who knows about it, it still feels incredibly clumsy to have Ki-Adi Mundi be one of the few aware of Qimir's existence, even if not explicitly stated to him, he does know she was trained by someone powerful. Despite my disliking for him as a person, I can't deny his intelligence so him denying the return of the Sith as an outrageous suggestion the way he does in the prequels is made to seem unreasonable when he himself is aware of adept dark side users in his own lifetime. His disbelief is unreasonable when it would give answers to the mystery Qimir's existence. I highly doubt he would just brush off this incredibly powerful dark enemy in the time between The Acolyte and The Phantom Menace as just a rogue force wielder, he would have questions and Qui-Gon's declaration would pique his interest when he has personal experience in that area. All in all, regardless of speculation, I can't see a reason for him being one of the few who is let in on this secret when he's the one who has the most disbelief in the existence of the Sith. I'll credit Leslye in this one respect in that there is a way in that Ki-Adi Mundi doesn't know about the Sith, but it still feels like a stretch to me. His involvement was unnecessary and to me, just seemed like she was trying to spark outrage in the fanbase with it. You're right that he still technically checks out, but the fact that his statement's validity relies on a technicality now is disappointing.
@@deadso Yeah that's fair, she's definitely not competent, but maybe less incompetent that she's credited for lmao. The show has done what she wants, that's the extent of her competence.
This is it... It's like the strategy Palpatine used to get rid of the Jedis and get the absolute power. Start a war... foster conflict... and from there it's where you win. Having heard only the criticism and the analysis of the Acolyte... The mere fact that they use the pronouns and the language. Then the absolute disrespect towards the lore. Charlie Barnett was right in his blunders: "there is no good or evil. It depends on which side are you standing on." It's said in the series itself: "It's not about good or evil, it's about power." If Barnett was persistently saying that (his terrible blunder about Anakin was him trying to justify that the Jedi were the bad ones under some point of view) was for a reason. Anakin said to Obi-Wan in their fight that the Jedis were the evil ones, after Obi-Wan told him that the Chancellor was evil. It's so obvious that many people pointed it out: when you say "there is no good or evil", that's what the Siths would tell you to manipulate you (and get rid of their responsibility). Headland is presenting here the Jedis as an hegemonic elite, powerful people, the key of a system which is ONLY a system. It's as if it was the fight for power of two families, two confronted families, like in Romeo and Juliet... The Jedis do questionable or bad things, like taking away kids from their families from an early age, and in this series they even keep a lie about this... As Theory says, they kill a group of witches, take away one child to raise it as a Jedi... they are the enemies, the oppressors, of those people (2:43). Those witches remind me of Scar's family in The Lion King 2, by the way. (Which is also like Romeo and Juliet). I think... Headland basically presents them as a group with power, rather than the defense of the GOOD (like the dynasties in the monarchies and their fight for power), and then the enemies, the emerging Siths, are enemies of the Jedis, not enemies of the society (in the paradigm that the Siths are EVIL, they are enemies of the society. But when you destroy the paradigm, and we have only elites, and there is no GOOD or EVIL, it's just the Jedis "dynasty" against the witches or whatever Prometheus-like Siths precursor (Alien), or the Siths themselves.) Thus she is actually destroying Lucas' Star Wars paradigm that the Jedis are the guardians of the GOOD (this is an absolute concept), and the Siths are EVIL (another absolute concept), and harmful to the society (by definition of evil). Everything is a relative concept. And then she is actually destroying Lucas' creation. Because he didn't make just a story of a man who fought a bad emperor and reconciled his father. He created a world with a philosophy, where the Jedis are the epicenter of the society and its spirituality. And that philosophy is not a school of thought, nor a paradigm, is that world's inherent nature.
Star Wars Fans: “You are on this council but we do not grant you the rank of master.” Leslye Headland: “What how could you do this. This is outrageous. It’s unfair. How could I have my own show and not be a master?” Star Wars Fans: “You’re absolutely right. We do grant you the rank of master. Master of Gaslighting.”
Kathleen and Leslie really can’t take criticism and just pull the sexist Card on us and whatever. It’s absolutely ridiculous how much Disney has now taken action against fans just because this one show, like, are they expecting a masterpiece box office hit by silencing a majority of people? It’s just pathetic and embarrassing for Disney to go this far
To play Devil's advocate, As much as I hate the current state of Star Wars, Kathleen and Kennedy do have a right to pull the sexism card when all you have to do is look through these comments to see that they are justified. It's one thing to criticize someone's work, it's another to just spew anti lgbt crap
@@borkhthree-jackdaws5918 I’ve rarely or never seen anything sexist, racist or anything anti lgtp in people’s criticisms. There definitely are, but I made my effort to avoid them and actually look for actual, reasonable and legitimate criticism to the show.
@thelittleal1212 you missed what I said, this community is so toxic and bigoted as a whole that the legit criticism often gets buried by people just making awful comments. Most of the people offering legit criticism are not who I'm talking about
That clip when she talks about George is not the one able to hire the artist ralph McQuarrie, when in fact, George actually the one hiring Ralph McQuarrie 💀
So with that interview, are there still people who truly believe that Lesyle Headland has some kind respect for George Lucas? She said on that interview, what does she realiy think about him. Jesus Christ, keep away Lesyle Headland and her envy from Star Wars, please.
I mean, I can't really say I'm surprised. She's doing such a good job of destroying Star Wars canon she thought she'd take a stab at real life history.
I figured it out guys: Leslie must have been heterosexual at one point- In a relationship with a man whos love for Star wars ruined their relationship- After a vicious breakup she became a lesbian and is now hellbent on destroying everything Star wars - The guy was probably someone Kathleen knew back in college and somehow they found it was the one and same guy... You might say thats absolutely crazy but now that I think about it. It makes way more sense than what Disney is doing atm
That probably makes the most absolute Sense on why Disney is allowing this. They would rather tell a story based off of feelings instead of actual content and continuity. This is an age of feelings instead of common Sense
The thing I feel with Star Wars in general is that you MUST BE almost a die hard fan to understand every piece of lore and create a narrative/story that will captivate the fanbase. Literally, besides the clone wars series and other cartoons and perhaps Rogue One, the shows/movies SCREAM that the people behind the production have no idea of what SW really is.
She writes a show where the characters have to HIDE information from their colleagues and superiors, for their own superiors and colleagues…. Write what you know, eh Leslye Headland?? 😂🤦♂️🤷🏼♂️ I bet the ol’ Harvster misses you as his #1 Wingman 😂
I'm worried about Plagueis's face. His mouth is hidden, which makes me worry that he's gonna have the breathing mask on at this point in time - which would imply that Palpetine is alive and training as a Sith apprentice already as Palpetine was there the day he got that injury... Honestly I feel like this show would fix so many issues if they just said it happened 50 years earlier instead of 100.
"I just LOVE Star Wars--I love its storylines and characters. I love the characters that travel through time in a phonebooth, that fat orange cat that loves lasagna, and that little, green guy. . . who lives in a garbage can and is grumpy a lot. Yeah, I just love Star Wars." -- Leslie Hedland
You know what I realized. We are in the middle of a systematic demonstration campaign against us by outr own people and they are intentionally making terrible shows to piss us off. If u know about "1984" and the idea of 2 minutes of hate you realize that is what they are doing. They give us tons of things to hate toake sure we are in an angry state all the time. My advice is to not hate anyone they tell you to hate its only hurts you
It's so sad we live in a world now where breaking "Canon" is the go to thing to do these days for writers to get there mark on the show. It's so egotistical and down right fudging narcissistic "This is my show." words we hear all the time these days, either being said, or refereed to. This baits the community into all out wars, this ideology that these characters we love are liars and never spoke about this is down right disrespectful. Doctor Who is another case where this is happening of it no longer having a "Canon" to speak of. Shows which people grow up with are taken by these people who wanna leave 'there' mark on it just because they can. Let's not go into the fact that it appears now that unfortunately a male character 'can't' be important or powerful on there own without an even more powerful woman coming in to take the limelight. They will just say "Oh they have the Mandalorian it's fine, they had Clone Wars Season 7, so we can have all this." (Not what was said I believe but still comes off that way.) And even Mando is now dropping off into being ended. I used to adore Star Wars, heck I tried to defend it, but I just cant anymore, I am deeply heartbroken that this once groundbreaking and inclusive show has become such a fest of sh*t that its no longer recognizable. I feel so bad for all the legends who are no longer with us that this is the legacy they are now left with. I really wanted to stick this franchise out and really take it in but I cant walk with it anymore, I need to walk away before my heart is broken even more. Call me Sexist, call me what you will, but This is not my Star Wars.
this ties in so very well to that one south park episode where they joke about making changes to every movie. when stan kyle cartman and tweek (i think it is) break in to steal the movie so that they cannot change it, kyle makes a speech about how it is not just the creator's movie, but it is everyone's movie. especially the fans' movie
Theory I just wanted to say how much of a fan I am. You keep my hope in Star Wars. Hopefully I get to meet you one day and say thanks for still keeping light in the dark times we live in. Don’t stop fighting for something you love.
Isnt that the whole point of Star Wars? Literally decades ago George told you to embrace the parts of the franchise you enjoy when there was the prequel backlash. So isnt this literally part of George Lucas' design?
@@ElykMuablhats Um.., no. That's just Progressive spin and delusional sophistry. Lies. Nobody with strength and internal coherence is fooled by short-term 'self calming' thought patterns like that. Hiding from the horrors of Objective Reality is only for the weak. Strong people work to make the world better in real ways by facing hard things without flinching. Try it sometime. You might surprise yourself.
@@ElykMuablhatsin a sense , why not make up her own characters all the way ? Why bring in legacy characters and purposely change their established lore within the universe AND make it not make sense ?
Disney, you want to make loads of money? Sell loads of merchandise? Get loads of people to talk about how amazing your show is? Hire a bunch of Star Wars super fans and let them fight over a script and then get a good director who understands how to hold a shot and not cut every two seconds and done.
We need to put an official petition out to make the show non canon. Point blank period. We'd get so many signatures so fast. This shit is disgusting. The complete and total lack of respect for the already established characters and lore is beyond disbelief.
@@matthewguggino5488 fr bruh Legends is still canon to me, jus cause disney bought star wars shouldnt mean they can jus say all the older amazing stories and content like games jus arent cannon anymore, I knew the shit was dead as soon as that happened, but somehow it jus keeps getting worse smh...
@@victor1998-swe well if it’s uncanonised it doesn’t matter if they make a season 2 or not all the 1 brain cell Disney fans can enjoy it and it won’t destroy proper cannon. Disney will also lose more money too
@@BankaiFever , as a Transgender person Star Wars was always Inclusive in the older movies and books that Disney chose to ignore. Two examples, Darth Vader was voiced by James Earl Jones and there have been a ton of cool female characters before Disney owned Star Wars. I think what bothers people the most is them making all the books non canon, trying too hard to make a already Inclusive franchise more Inclusive, and a lack of respect for the lore. The books and Comics I grew up with will always be Cannon in my head.
7:43 I heard that and i was like "Wtf is she talking about ? George Lucas holds the key because he made the fucking franchise and understands his creation better than everyone. How is it untrue ?" 😂
I just feel Leslie is Master Vernestra in the Acolyte. Wanted to be important in the beginning, hiding everything and, in the end, having tummy issues for the backlash, blaming everything into a faulty man and having to explain everything to the higher-ups. The resemblance is incredible.
"Master Yoda, I tried to placate the committee by framing Sol, but hearing that veteran Jedi Master went murderously insane out of the blue didn't work. I even wore my ceremonial 'lying to a senate committee' robes, but those didn't help either. But on the plus side, at least I didn't have to tell them that basically everything after Brendock was my fault for having hidden that I oopsie'd my padawan into a Sith who trained the real assassin and corrupted Sol's padawan after she had quietly and peacefully left the Order. Now, if we want this story to hold up, we've got dozens of witnesses spread across the galaxy that need to be silenced, including a bunch of Jedi. I think that little badger guy we have sniff everyone's laundry knows basically everything, too. Oh, wow. 'DefundTheJedi' is trending on Space Twitter. That senator who made a political platform out of decrying Jedi as unchecked timebombs is having a field day with this." -Venestra, moments before getting Windu'd out a nearby window by an enraged goblin
I thought they only included Ki-Adi-Mundi because Yoda was "unavailable." Not that that exempts the fact that they broke lore by including Ki-Adi-Mundi.
You need to read the collider interview. Crazy stuff in there. She said that Plagueis learned the technique from women and that the lightsaber is a phallic symbol
"a spirited discussion" has strong "I wasn't yelling, I was loudly stating my opinion" vibe. Pitch Meeting is going to have a blast with this show. EDIT: Actually mad about comparing garbage writing to a classic like Rashomon.
@@Daveluvutube This. I know 1 person who enjoys it and they self admittedly "don't follow star wars" so aslong as you don't like star wars to begin with you can avoid hating the show
@@TheT4Gz I mean even from a non Star Wars perspective the story itself doesn’t even make sense and there is some questionable acting but I can see how casual viewers might enjoy it. U know the type of people who watch tv but actually sit on tik tok
Pretty much lol given her dealings with Weinstein it wouldn't surprise me if that's how she wriggled her way to where she is and how she got allowed to keep producing this crappy show
she was touching the kyber crystal because the lightsaber was broken, which is why she was able to bleed it. anakin’s light saber was intact and there was physical contact with the kyber crystal so he couldn’t bleed it.
@@toludosh8971I’m still not understanding how sols lightsaber broke with a throw that weak lmao obi Wan’s lightsaber fell off a landing platform hundreds of meters high straight to the floor in RoTS and commander Cody gave it back to him intact… feels cheap
Re the part about Headland having to fight to have Yoda in- that sounds similar to Deborah Chow talking about how she had arguments with various people in Lucasfilm about having Darth Vader in the Kenobi show. So I guess we can infer that there are still people at Lucasfilm that know doing certain things would be lorebreaking or just a bad idea... but then they get overruled when KK sides with the showmakers that want to do those things.
As Theory rightfully said. Of course this is "your show" Leslye, which also means when the story is trite, characters inconsistent and/or boring and contrived, its entirely YOUR fault it ended up that way. This is effectively an embedded confession that Leslye wants ALL the creative freedom to do whatever she wants, regardless of its respect to Star Wars or storytelling, but doesn't want the responsibility. This show can not be "for everyone" but also be "your show", it is either one or the other. They are mutually exclusive, which is exactly what the ever-changing character traits, personalities and motivations are. Leslye can't be trusted with any form of storytelling, because being a showrunner, requires BOTH a creative vision AND the responsibility to take the fall if it doesn't work. Leslye barely has the former, if at all
What a love story everyone. Sith kills girls friend Sith kidnaps girl Girl sneaks peek at siths 2nd saber. Sith licks lips at the sight of girl killing her former master. Sith and girl hold hands.
Gave me gr-oo-mer vibes. The entire dynamic between those two came off quite disturbing whilst Headlamp over there appears to be practically drooling all over them, Mae and Green Diarrhea Chick (don't care to remember her name) included. Extremely disconcerting, it all is.
If she would have written the Acolyte as an hommage to the movie "Natural born killers" it could have worked. Show the path of one sister delving deeper and deeper into the dark side with her Sith/cuddle-Knight-of-Ren/whatever on their killing spree, disguising the kills as accidents, while an investigator is on their tracks would have been infinitely more interesting.
I think there is still a way to keep the Acolyte as a cannon but still, keep the original Star Wars as a cannon, too. All they have to do is say it is a children's book at the Jedi's temple. It essentially educates the young Jedis that other people might have different views of the force, shows a path of emotion taken by literally all the Jedis in that show, and how it leads to disaster and spins the whole show as educating young Jedis on what not to do, and how wrong the dark side is. As to Darth Plagues, I think they can play it in the book as "a dark shadowy figure was looking from afar.." without having to name his Plagues.
I vote to make EU cannon and Disney fan fiction. Remember fellow nerds. Cannon is what the fans make it. We cannot allow a mega conglomerate to dictate our imaginations.
News flash for Leslye Headland and the executives at Lucasfilm: this is “*our* franchise,” and we aren’t talking obligated to recognize your product as the Star Wars we acknowledge as faithful to the plot and history of the franchise :/
I am kind of amused how the situation of the story is similar to reality: Sol being the scape goat for failure (Fans being the scape goat for failure) Venestra spreading the above lie (Leslye spreading the above lie) Evil being the "good guys" (Leslye being the "good guy") Also "This is my show". Only a Sith deals in absolutes plus the quote of "Ascending to the darkside" when usually it is called in lore falling or succumbing to the darkside I have a strange theory that she wants the stranger to eventually become Palpatine and be tasked with ending Mae so he and his new master can run tests to try and create life and to just paint men as untrustworthy......but that is just a theory I thought of whilst writing this xD
Chat gpt came up with this rewrite of the show in less them 2 min: -andarra ist killed by Mae fighting bountyhunters set up by mae -the council says its an accident -Former padawan Sol investigates the death and finds a knife with a symbol he has Seen before -Sol wants to go on a solo mission to Figuren everything out but is joined by his Close friend yord and his padawan jackie -the go to another Jedi Temple to find sols Former Master to ask him about this symbol -he says they have to find kelnaka beschaust he was studying this -Master Torbin gets killed by mae -sol sees mae and thinks his Former Student osha gone rouge -they then find osha and Arrest her -meanwhile venestra keeps an eye on sol - sol thinks osha is innocent - the go to kelnaka but find him dead -Episode 5 but with just yord sol and Jackie -we then learn what Happens in the past - sol, andarra, Master torbin and Master kelnaka are on brendok -they find this cult of Former Jedi aniseya and two Kids -anisaya is a Former Jedi and love intrest of sol -she left because she got Pergament by sol but he Never know - anisaya wants to bring Balance to the force through her twins -Training one in the dark side and one in the light -osha wants to join the Jedi and -osha gifts her unique neclace to her sister mae -they Right and by accident start a Fire -mae bumps her Head an gets concussed -osha sees her mother being killed by sol -we know aniseya was Betrages by the other cultists and sol accidentaly kills aniseya -she wants sol to protect their children -mae wakes up and doesnt know where she is -sol finds her and thinks its osha because of the neclace -he wants to look for his other daughter but everything ist burning and the other Jedi say she ist probably dead -Sol trains osha (mae) -the real osha survives and seeks revenge -the stranger ist someone who was a padawan to venestra but was fascinated by the Sith -he was betrayed by venestra and wants to rebuild the Sith -he thinks he is the First Sith in 1000years and wants an apprentice -plagueis is hunting him in secret because the stranger could destroy the Plans of the real Sith -venestra finds out about sols past -last Episode basically like the Show, but venestra realy believes sol did all this
The sad part is we know how passionate SWT is about star wars and as he continues to cover this shite he keeps calm. Usually censors himself and remains professional. Its GOT to be incredibly painful for him.
Another problem is, Leslye is acting as if she is doing something different by bringing the integrity of the Jedi into question, and is on a high horse about it. George Lucas already did this with the prequels... Bioware already did this with Knights of the Old Republic... What about The Clone Wars animated series? We weren't always supposed to see the Jedi as the ultimate good guys. It's already been established that what they do is morally ambiguous. This. Is. Nothing. New. It's just bad.
Remember, these are the same people who said “Star Wars is for everyone” now it’s “no it’s all mine and I made it for me!!”
Its funny because they back pedal on both arguments. "X thing if for everyone" *people don't like it "well this wasn't made for you". They back pedal because they don't have a grounded or rational position, it is purely an addiction to COPium
Bolshevik mindset in action. These people (Headland and her constituents) are mentally ill.
The strong female lead and blatant feminine weak males. It just seems forced. Someone recently told me that there has NEVER been a masculine hero in star wars until Mando... craziest thing I've ever heard. These are the troglodytes that like this crap. They have blinders on.
This needs pinning 👍👍
The people that used to bully Star Wars fans now run Star Wars.
7:51 I suppose Leslye didn't watch the "making of" videos from the prequels. You literally see George surrounded by artists who pitch ideas and help him. He doesn't come up with every detail himself, nor does he reject everything.
Very true and those videos are still on TH-cam for her to reference to but still lied smh
Are you saying Georges SW was everybody SW?
@@misterweitphart3821He would often give general descriptions of what he was looking for. Other times he knew exactly what he wanted. It was a team effort. Take the design of General Grievous for example. Look it up from the ROTS featurette.
Like when Samual L Jackson wanted a purple lightsaber lol. George is a cool guy
Yeah. I cant remember if it was Adam savage, but a model designer asked George about some minor detail and George was like, that's your job to make that. If you think its should be there, it should be there.
You guys remember when it started going really bad, and we started specifying it as ‘Disney Star Wars?’
This is on another level, this is Leslye Headlands Star Wars.
"I memba"
**Lesbian headlamp
Ohh noo! Your right 😰😔
leslye headcanon
She is a classic narcissist and then blames irrelevant things when people don’t like it.
I really want to know what kind of dirt she has on everyone that she can get away with all these things.
"I want to put Yoda in"
"No, that's not a good idea"
"You want me to share that stuff I have on you?"
"You can put Yoda in the show"
@@ceebee Kennedy was also taking lots of notes while she was fetching coffee.
She's an envious woman.. She can't create nothing by herself, so the only thing that she might do is create a series based on the universe that someone else created. Maybe she's the creator of Acoytle, but Star Wars doesn't belong to her.
@@ceebeeshe the one who took out epstein
George Lucas is a misogynist! how dare they besmirch the chosen one
This woman called turning into a Sith “ascension”. She calls killing a man out of anger a “triumph”. What a psychopath.
@@rainsong7773 It's crazy really, godawful PR. The fact Disney allowed this interview to be published
Yes, this is the type of person who, if given the opportunity, would probably organize the Hunger Games with poor people
@@marcinf6324 BARS!
You'd think she was referring to the characters and not saying these things in 1st person. Give a terrible person an opportunity like this lets you know the kind of person running the company.
I guess when she said something about Ascension she got Star wars confused with Stargate SG-1
What the hell is Osha's triumph? She's lost her sister again, in a fit of rage killed her father figure, and she's been corrupted by the dark side... she's taken a massive L here there's no triumph lmao
I was thinking the same thing. We literally ended up where we started. Ugh
She get the hot dude with nice abs and she can fix him.
it's the winning i guess
@@Geekezfcant fix something if you're broken yourself
Disney has a habit of making female/minority characters with evil traits and expecting us to sympathize with them even when it’s unearned.
@@alecstronach Her triumph is being a psycho like Leslye 🤣
Leslye be like: "Welcome to the Dark Si.. Ahem, Jedi Order, Sister."
Every time Headland talks about Osha and Qimir I get the impression that she glorifies murder. They did not escape some sort of oppression. They committed murder and escaped prosecution.
The Sith-Code is about elevating oneself above any rule and any law, dominating others through the means of raw power. It is not about escaping oppression but becoming the oppressor. That is the Sith's freedom.
Probably why she so openly associates with them. The Sith have taken over and perverted our Republic.
I'm taking two things from this:
One is that she threw around misogny, but then has a story that contains misogny and a demeaning representation of women.
The second is that Osha's "Triumph" was that she sided with the man who killed her friends, murdered her master, and violated her sister.
On the second point, it's a lot more eerie when you consider she has a history with Harvey Weinstein.
How did he violate her sister tho?
I guess they are referring to them wiping her memory?@@onlyacomentarynothingspeci2419
@@onlyacomentarynothingspeci2419 Brain fucked her to remove her memories.
Yeah I’m not getting the “violated her sister” bit, what’s that about?
"this is not your show, this is star wars"
FACTS!!!!!!!!!!! PREACH MY GUY!!!!!!
so where is she gonne get the money from to buy star wars like its her show but all is owned by disney now so...
i am at a loss for words at how bad disney is treating star wars it's honestly hella infuriating
Andor isn't too bad.
I need to find out where the writers of the show live. 💥
@@butsukete1806 pieces of good scattered through an ocean of crap doesnt justify the destruction of the entire franchise
@@butsukete1806 Andor was good, they gave hardly any marketing though!
Paramount plus halo = producers who don't care about lore
Amazon rings of power= producers who don't care about lore
Disney star wars.
It's a common trend. People have to realize how people with no talent or care are being hired to run these big IPs
Her: Star Wars is for everyone!
Also her: This is *MY* show.
Are you saying Star Wars isn't for everyone, or are you saying a creator shouldn't have a personal connection to their creation? If you don't have a point to make, maybe you just shouldn't try.
@@milward4563Are you trolling? Or do you really not get it?
@@milward4563bro what are you yapping about? This comment just outlines Headland’s hypocrisy… next time, read the whole comment before making an insult disguised as a “point”
Star wars is for everyone but the fans of star wars. For too long have Star wars fans been allowed to enjoy content! /s
@@calebtorres9714 Was your original comment not "an insult disguised as a point"?
"I mean, it's my show."
It's finally been made public! Everything post- episode 6 is FANFICTION!!
the whole show is. its garbage. typical women n lbgqt type people tryna turn eveey character into a female of color or gay or lesbian people
BAD Fanfuction, sometimes fanfiction can be good, like SW Theroy's Vader.
everything post episode 3 revenge of the sith*
Agreed
@BIGDaddioJohnB you don't read, do you?
So, just gotta ask here... Does anyone else's skin crawl whenever she refers to "Osha's Triumph" in these interviews? Like, does she even realize what she wrote? She was completely passive through most of the show, and then she decided to ... what... fall in love with the murderer who kidnapped her, to eventually murder the man who saved her life and protected her, on the word of someone who tried to burn her alive... then stood by while that same person got her mind destroyed so she could leave her to her own devices and run off with her murdering kidnapper boyfriend? This is her "Triumph"?
OSHA is based
It's so romantic
Osha and Mae are the worse characters in cinematic history. The actress who plays them sucks at acting also. Just shit characters all around
Still better than Twilight 😍❤️🔥💞...
Yes, it's disgusting
She hates "the patriarchy" but then mimics a scene from "fight club" ? ... brilliant
Patriarchy and misogyny are their go-to buzz words to avoid accountability and shift the blame
I don’t think she actually does. The show has many moments that run counter to the agenda.
😂 no patriarchy! A man named Locas created the show.
@AnoneemusNoename I agree with almost all of that except I disagree that the show paints the Jedi as the villain and the bad guys as good. Only in their eyes. There seems to be a lot of subtle criticisms of “the agenda” embedded in the show that is supposedly filled with an agenda. Dare I say parts of it are actually based from a certain point of view.
@AnoneemusNoename Goddamn. That's a really good take on the movie Fight Club. You're right that we aren't supposed to root for any of those characters at all.
They were gonna KISS??? Did they just forget that Qimir killed Jecki? Her and Osha were friends, she wasn't a bad guy or an oppressor, Osha should still be mad about that - considering it happened like a couple days ago. Jecki was one of the best characters in the show, and they've just written off her death as an insignificant event and that infuriates me.
Yeah could've totally pulled something and made her take revenge on qimir
could have been worse. just imagine she would have stumbled over the iron of some male Jedi , used for flatting his Toga, and broke her Neck. And dont tell me this show wont be able to do such Things.
If they kissed, it wouldn't be gay. 😆
I loved Jecki 😭😍🧡💛💚😢
because women are in charge of Star Wars, and women (generally) don't enjoy sci-fi; they want 50 Shades of Jedi
How is this 100 years in the past, and yet yoda looks even OLDER than TROS😭😭
Welcome to Leslye's 🤡 🌍
"The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural" - Emperor Palpatine
It’s because he’s gay and lame and female in this alternate universe she created
Chronology isn’t Leslye’s strength.
how he look older you saw the back of his head and baby Yoda at 50 years old has white hair.
The real reason Yoda went to exile in Episode 3 is because he cameo in the Acolyte. Those 3 seconds of screen time were the most painful moments of his entire 900 year old life. It was worse than appearing in the Sequels. Poor Grand Master...
Why does this fan base have the worse jokes?
@@Byronic19134*worst
@@Byronic19134 You brought this up with my Darth Plagueis joke as well, you don't like my jokes. That's alright.
@@Byronic19134 i thought it was pretty funny
That was kinda funny @@Byronic19134
One of the ways everything could be saved is that George buys the company back and then, does a singular (but pivotable) show like Rogue One.
In it Master Yoda is in his quarters at the Jedi Temple on Coruscant. He is startled awake from a bad dream and relays all the details to the Council. All the things would be from the time Disney owned the company. Then the continuity would be restored and it’ll segue into 20 years before the Phantom Menace.
Hahaha using the ‘it was just a bad dream.’
Should flip to a youngling class and the instructor saying 'so you see from this instructional video why you are warned about emotional attachments and how they lead to corruption.'
The good ending lmao
Or just simply say "Let's scrap all that." Okay done "Now lets leave it be."
Crewfunded by the SW fandom may allow that to happen.
I’ve seen people say this multiple times, but it’s very true.
“The ability to speak does not make you intelligent”
"It's my show" "No one has the answers!" Umm..maybe the dude who created it does? How did they even allow someone who clearly has zero respect for the source material to write a freaking prequel?! Unreal.
It's a very common thing these day, check out Dr. Who, The Witcher, Kurtzman Trek.......................
She checks a bunch of boxes.
@@gunnerycaptain6158 or the halo tv show as well where no one played the games
@@chrispember172 Right! Atleast that got cancelled- Acolyte deserves the same fate.
Another good ole Kathleen Kennedy "F" up. She has single handedly destroyed Star Wars! It's almost like she has a grudge against George. Like she's purposefully destroying the franchise. It's weird....
This show is a tell all for Harvey’s former assistant. It’s also like multiverse Star Wars it’s not part of the main timeline it’s part of an alternate universe.
"Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made."
-Tolkien
Fanfictions are inherently "handicapped" in a way, George R Martin has a interesting take about it (even if the guy messed up with ASoIaF, I mostly agree with his opinion about fanfiction)
"Lord of the Rings is Aryan propaganda"
-Rachel Maddow
YT deleted the Rachel Maddow quote I posted in response. Big Tech protecting the wicked, as per usual.
Don't worry, the same Hollywood types working on Star Wars are now sticking their fingers into Tolkien's work. Now that his family have cashed out, it will only be a matter of time before they ruin it all. We thought The Rings of Power was bad LOL.
"Me me me me me me me" -Leslye Headland.
it really does just look like some kind of therapy sesh
Knowing the lore of a show and respecting the lore of the show is 2 very different things. Leslye Headland can claim to know Star Wars all she wants but in the end it's the fruits of her labor (the Acolyte show) that will speak for themselves in terms of her respecting Star Wars. As they say, actions speak louder than words.
Who gave this lady a show they literally choose the worst person possible
Some people are saying she has dirt on Kathleen or something. She was not qualified for this job she’s never done sci fi. I’m confused
Tf do you mean? Kathleen has made so many terrible decisions. How are people seriously still shocked by this shit
I'd be shocked if she doesn't have tons of info on people at Disney or something similar. Only way it makes sense this bimbo was given $180 mil to do literally whatever she wanted
@@milward4563yup. It happened because KK leads Lucasfilm and she is a moron, who hates Star Wars.
The same people who put Biden in office .
It's not HER show. It's like renting a flat or house. Within reason you can paint the walls, put up painting or pictures, you furnish it how you wish up to a point, with permission. But you can't just knock a wall through or build a patio or balcony. Any writer and director basically rents a room in the house of star wars and are at liberty to do the former to a point, but my no means the latter! Lego Headlamp has basically knocked all the walls through and built a balcony on the flat because she wanted an open plan with an outside space.
This comment has better writing than The Acolyte.
😂😂😂this is perfect
Couldn't have put it better myself.
You did that dude. Well said
That’s how you end up with the Miami disaster…….
Yoda up and died because he remembered he was part of this show.
He said, "Strong am I with the force, but not that strong."
yoda fired her there on the spot my headconnon
Poor Yoda. Though he may be an enemy of the Empire, I feel bad for him having to be in this show. I wouldn’t wish such a fate upon even my worst enemy.
Just confirmed Obi-Wan will be in season 2...
@@FreshDouganyour joking
Sup Anikin.
We love you lord Vader!
@FreshDougan I pray they cancel that shit how they can make a season 2 with the ratings is just absolutely crazy to me. And I mean the viewer ratings not the bullshit critics that have to say good things because if not they would be called homophoobic or racist whatever they wanna say that day for there excuse
I gotta give her props I didn’t think anyone could be worse than jj and rian honestly congrats that’s impressive
Nothing gets below TLJ level. Nothing in the acolyte comes close to what Rian did to Luke.
@@wingthomauxwait for season two. Real fear that the one canon show will completely undermine the whole prequel and OT.
In the old republic, using the force to crush, choke and shock someone was very fucking common.
There’s such a difference to how Leslye talks (‘it’s my show’) and how all the Mando directors talk in Gallery episodes talking about stewarding this precious universe and stories that belong to everyone
Exactly she sounds like some headstrong, butthurt person who spews toxic third way feminism and identity politics into a show
So what on earth happened, between now and then?? 🤔
wtf happened in season 3 then lmao
I enjoyed it idk @@godzilla1392
@@godzilla1392Disney got greedy to sell Grogu
After this series S1 Finale, I am already retconning it in my own head. This show never happened, none of it makes sense because it literally goes against everything known about Star Wars. Leslye wasn't trying to intro new material into the continuity, she was trying to make her own continuity. "And that, is why she failed!"
Yeah, we should all just accept this shit as fanon-not canon-and move on.
Well unfortunately it is canon bro it doesn’t matter about your opinion
Exactly... idgaf what anyone says. This is not canon.
@sirfrancipal2187 it's my right to disregard this show as Canon to the rest of Star Wars if I want, even if it makes me arrogant and wrong. But you have no right to tell me my opinion doesn't matter. Be careful what you say, and who you say it to. Don't invalidate anyone just to prove a point, like Leslye Headland did with this show.
Same bro these characters never existed and Anakin was the first and only person to be created via that force
I've realised that Leslye Headland isn't incompetent. None of these errors are mistakes. I think she's flamebaiting us. I genuinely think she wants the drama so she can start a fight with the community and try to hold some holier than thou highground over us by throwing political arguments at us. Ki-Adi Mundi is the most obvious example of this. His role was so minor, it could have been given to any nameless Jedi grunt. She chose to use a character who outright says that the Sith have been extinct for a millenia because she knew it would stir an argument. He was such an awful choice for his role in the show that I honestly can't believe it was simply sloppiness. This show has broken records for the amount of mistakes and lore-breaking plot points it has produced. I would understand the occasional slip up for a bit of creative freedom, but she's done something stupid in every episode I just honestly can't fathom the idea of that being a mistake. This whole show was just a massive display of ego, and I really hope that her bosses force her to rectify as much of it as possible for season 2.
If anything, episode 7 is flawed on so many levels I can't call her competent in her directing and writing. Yes she wants to stir the pot, out of spite, but don't mistake her narscissism for competence and cleverness.
Ki-Adi heard from Qui-Gon that he was attacked by someone using a red lightsaber and Qui-Gon directly claimed he was a Sith, yet Ki still didn't believe the Sith were back. He knew far less in Acolyte, only that Mae was supposedly killing Jedi and that she claimed to not know the identity of her master. No one said her master might be a Sith and no one had seen a red lightsaber yet in the show. The show was garbage, but Ki is technically consistent. What exactly about the info he had in the show would require him to think the Sith were back when he denies it even when Qui-Gon was attacked by Maul with a red saber? And since Sol was blamed for the killings, the Jedi who knew about Mae likely believe he was Mae's secret master. And if they do learn about Smilo Ren, he was a padawan, so they would believe he was just a fallen Jedi, not an actual Sith.
@@Fardawg You do make a valid point, Ki-Adi Mundi doesn't explicitly get told that Qimir is Sith. However, he is aware of a powerful and adept dark side user and while following the events of episode 8 it is reasonable to assume the wider Jedi order never learn about the Sith returning with Sol's death being the last Jedi who knows about it, it still feels incredibly clumsy to have Ki-Adi Mundi be one of the few aware of Qimir's existence, even if not explicitly stated to him, he does know she was trained by someone powerful. Despite my disliking for him as a person, I can't deny his intelligence so him denying the return of the Sith as an outrageous suggestion the way he does in the prequels is made to seem unreasonable when he himself is aware of adept dark side users in his own lifetime. His disbelief is unreasonable when it would give answers to the mystery Qimir's existence. I highly doubt he would just brush off this incredibly powerful dark enemy in the time between The Acolyte and The Phantom Menace as just a rogue force wielder, he would have questions and Qui-Gon's declaration would pique his interest when he has personal experience in that area.
All in all, regardless of speculation, I can't see a reason for him being one of the few who is let in on this secret when he's the one who has the most disbelief in the existence of the Sith. I'll credit Leslye in this one respect in that there is a way in that Ki-Adi Mundi doesn't know about the Sith, but it still feels like a stretch to me. His involvement was unnecessary and to me, just seemed like she was trying to spark outrage in the fanbase with it. You're right that he still technically checks out, but the fact that his statement's validity relies on a technicality now is disappointing.
@@deadso Yeah that's fair, she's definitely not competent, but maybe less incompetent that she's credited for lmao. The show has done what she wants, that's the extent of her competence.
This is it... It's like the strategy Palpatine used to get rid of the Jedis and get the absolute power. Start a war... foster conflict... and from there it's where you win. Having heard only the criticism and the analysis of the Acolyte...
The mere fact that they use the pronouns and the language.
Then the absolute disrespect towards the lore.
Charlie Barnett was right in his blunders: "there is no good or evil. It depends on which side are you standing on." It's said in the series itself: "It's not about good or evil, it's about power."
If Barnett was persistently saying that (his terrible blunder about Anakin was him trying to justify that the Jedi were the bad ones under some point of view) was for a reason.
Anakin said to Obi-Wan in their fight that the Jedis were the evil ones, after Obi-Wan told him that the Chancellor was evil.
It's so obvious that many people pointed it out: when you say "there is no good or evil", that's what the Siths would tell you to manipulate you (and get rid of their responsibility).
Headland is presenting here the Jedis as an hegemonic elite, powerful people, the key of a system which is ONLY a system.
It's as if it was the fight for power of two families, two confronted families, like in Romeo and Juliet...
The Jedis do questionable or bad things, like taking away kids from their families from an early age, and in this series they even keep a lie about this...
As Theory says, they kill a group of witches, take away one child to raise it as a Jedi... they are the enemies, the oppressors, of those people (2:43). Those witches remind me of Scar's family in The Lion King 2, by the way. (Which is also like Romeo and Juliet).
I think... Headland basically presents them as a group with power, rather than the defense of the GOOD (like the dynasties in the monarchies and their fight for power), and then the enemies, the emerging Siths, are enemies of the Jedis, not enemies of the society (in the paradigm that the Siths are EVIL, they are enemies of the society. But when you destroy the paradigm, and we have only elites, and there is no GOOD or EVIL, it's just the Jedis "dynasty" against the witches or whatever Prometheus-like Siths precursor (Alien), or the Siths themselves.)
Thus she is actually destroying Lucas' Star Wars paradigm that the Jedis are the guardians of the GOOD (this is an absolute concept), and the Siths are EVIL (another absolute concept), and harmful to the society (by definition of evil).
Everything is a relative concept.
And then she is actually destroying Lucas' creation. Because he didn't make just a story of a man who fought a bad emperor and reconciled his father. He created a world with a philosophy, where the Jedis are the epicenter of the society and its spirituality. And that philosophy is not a school of thought, nor a paradigm, is that world's inherent nature.
Star Wars Fans: “You are on this council but we do not grant you the rank of master.”
Leslye Headland: “What how could you do this. This is outrageous. It’s unfair. How could I have my own show and not be a master?”
Star Wars Fans: “You’re absolutely right. We do grant you the rank of master. Master of Gaslighting.”
Kathleen and Leslie really can’t take criticism and just pull the sexist Card on us and whatever.
It’s absolutely ridiculous how much Disney has now taken action against fans just because this one show, like, are they expecting a masterpiece box office hit by silencing a majority of people?
It’s just pathetic and embarrassing for Disney to go this far
Women = no accountability …
Simple as that
To play Devil's advocate, As much as I hate the current state of Star Wars, Kathleen and Kennedy do have a right to pull the sexism card when all you have to do is look through these comments to see that they are justified. It's one thing to criticize someone's work, it's another to just spew anti lgbt crap
@@thelittleal1212 kinda weird how they didn’t play the sexism card for Ahsoka or Rogue One?
@@borkhthree-jackdaws5918 I’ve rarely or never seen anything sexist, racist or anything anti lgtp in people’s criticisms.
There definitely are, but I made my effort to avoid them and actually look for actual, reasonable and legitimate criticism to the show.
@thelittleal1212 you missed what I said, this community is so toxic and bigoted as a whole that the legit criticism often gets buried by people just making awful comments. Most of the people offering legit criticism are not who I'm talking about
Leslie is a Sith in the real life. RIP Star Wars
Not far from truth.
A sith Apprentice, rather.
Know who the master was? 🙂
The guy who totally didn't kill himself. 🫣😊
That clip when she talks about George is not the one able to hire the artist ralph McQuarrie, when in fact, George actually the one hiring Ralph McQuarrie 💀
Exactly! This is God tier DUMB.
Leslie is the proverbial village idiot.
So with that interview, are there still people who truly believe that Lesyle Headland has some kind respect for George Lucas? She said on that interview, what does she realiy think about him. Jesus Christ, keep away Lesyle Headland and her envy from Star Wars, please.
Agreed 💯 percent
I mean, I can't really say I'm surprised. She's doing such a good job of destroying Star Wars canon she thought she'd take a stab at real life history.
I figured it out guys: Leslie must have been heterosexual at one point- In a relationship with a man whos love for Star wars ruined their relationship- After a vicious breakup she became a lesbian and is now hellbent on destroying everything Star wars - The guy was probably someone Kathleen knew back in college and somehow they found it was the one and same guy... You might say thats absolutely crazy but now that I think about it. It makes way more sense than what Disney is doing atm
She puts too many naked handsome men in her show for a lesbian
Omg, yes! The same thoughts have come to my mind.thats the savageness of a woman with a broken heart!
@@Alej3880that would be so F’ed up!!
That probably makes the most absolute Sense on why Disney is allowing this. They would rather tell a story based off of feelings instead of actual content and continuity. This is an age of feelings instead of common Sense
Well we all know she isn't les by choice
The thing I feel with Star Wars in general is that you MUST BE almost a die hard fan to understand every piece of lore and create a narrative/story that will captivate the fanbase. Literally, besides the clone wars series and other cartoons and perhaps Rogue One, the shows/movies SCREAM that the people behind the production have no idea of what SW really is.
The power of one, the power of two, the power of many neurological disordeeerrrsss!.
The stealing of one. The embezzling of two. The bankruptcy of many
The power of “my show!”
She writes a show where the characters have to HIDE information from their colleagues and superiors, for their own superiors and colleagues….
Write what you know, eh Leslye Headland?? 😂🤦♂️🤷🏼♂️ I bet the ol’ Harvster misses you as his #1 Wingman 😂
Harvey must of had her stretched out over that sticky couch 😂
Yoda and Mace hid the facts that would multiply their enemies. This isn’t new.
I'm worried about Plagueis's face. His mouth is hidden, which makes me worry that he's gonna have the breathing mask on at this point in time - which would imply that Palpetine is alive and training as a Sith apprentice already as Palpetine was there the day he got that injury... Honestly I feel like this show would fix so many issues if they just said it happened 50 years earlier instead of 100.
dont worry. none of this shit is worth caring about because it's written by people who dont give a f about star wars
"I just LOVE Star Wars--I love its storylines and characters. I love the characters that travel through time in a phonebooth, that fat orange cat that loves lasagna, and that little, green guy. . . who lives in a garbage can and is grumpy a lot. Yeah, I just love Star Wars."
-- Leslie Hedland
i can't tell if this is a joke or an actual quote and that worries me
The famous Jedi Master Gaar Fiild and his padawan the lovable Ouscar Grucho
Garbage Can? Excuse me, the canonical name for it is Dagobah.
Does she just not know their names either? Oh boy...
I really do not like this woman.
No one does.
She's to dangerous to be left alive
You know what I realized. We are in the middle of a systematic demonstration campaign against us by outr own people and they are intentionally making terrible shows to piss us off. If u know about "1984" and the idea of 2 minutes of hate you realize that is what they are doing. They give us tons of things to hate toake sure we are in an angry state all the time. My advice is to not hate anyone they tell you to hate its only hurts you
Don't gender her like that bro! She could identify as a cat! Not cool.
Same
It's so sad we live in a world now where breaking "Canon" is the go to thing to do these days for writers to get there mark on the show. It's so egotistical and down right fudging narcissistic "This is my show." words we hear all the time these days, either being said, or refereed to. This baits the community into all out wars, this ideology that these characters we love are liars and never spoke about this is down right disrespectful. Doctor Who is another case where this is happening of it no longer having a "Canon" to speak of. Shows which people grow up with are taken by these people who wanna leave 'there' mark on it just because they can. Let's not go into the fact that it appears now that unfortunately a male character 'can't' be important or powerful on there own without an even more powerful woman coming in to take the limelight. They will just say "Oh they have the Mandalorian it's fine, they had Clone Wars Season 7, so we can have all this." (Not what was said I believe but still comes off that way.) And even Mando is now dropping off into being ended. I used to adore Star Wars, heck I tried to defend it, but I just cant anymore, I am deeply heartbroken that this once groundbreaking and inclusive show has become such a fest of sh*t that its no longer recognizable. I feel so bad for all the legends who are no longer with us that this is the legacy they are now left with. I really wanted to stick this franchise out and really take it in but I cant walk with it anymore, I need to walk away before my heart is broken even more. Call me Sexist, call me what you will, but This is not my Star Wars.
this ties in so very well to that one south park episode where they joke about making changes to every movie. when stan kyle cartman and tweek (i think it is) break in to steal the movie so that they cannot change it, kyle makes a speech about how it is not just the creator's movie, but it is everyone's movie. especially the fans' movie
"I've just learned a terrible truth. I think Leslye Headland is a Witch Lord."
A witch LAWD ?
@@AlexYBITW This literally made me laughed out loud.
I laugh way too hard at this 😂😭
Then our worst fears have came true
A bitch lord?
Theory I just wanted to say how much of a fan I am. You keep my hope in Star Wars. Hopefully I get to meet you one day and say thanks for still keeping light in the dark times we live in. Don’t stop fighting for something you love.
Well, if it’s HER fanfic then good news, it means she doesn’t see it as part of a whole
Isnt that the whole point of Star Wars? Literally decades ago George told you to embrace the parts of the franchise you enjoy when there was the prequel backlash. So isnt this literally part of George Lucas' design?
@@ElykMuablhats Um.., no. That's just Progressive spin and delusional sophistry. Lies.
Nobody with strength and internal coherence is fooled by short-term 'self calming' thought patterns like that. Hiding from the horrors of Objective Reality is only for the weak. Strong people work to make the world better in real ways by facing hard things without flinching. Try it sometime. You might surprise yourself.
@@ElykMuablhatsyes
@@ElykMuablhatsin a sense , why not make up her own characters all the way ? Why bring in legacy characters and purposely change their established lore within the universe AND make it not make sense ?
Idc what she sees
It's like a child with her toys, "no, it's mine! This is my toys and I'm gonna play with them like this."
“No! It’s my ball and I make the rules”
Only one problem.. it’s not hers.
She basically wasted 180 million dollars on her own fan fiction
Did she just imply that George Lucas, the literal creator of Star Wars, doesnt know what Star Wars is???
That is pure insanity.
@@Voltar she wants to use that as an excuse for her vanity project
gaslight you, Liberals do
Disney, you want to make loads of money? Sell loads of merchandise? Get loads of people to talk about how amazing your show is? Hire a bunch of Star Wars super fans and let them fight over a script and then get a good director who understands how to hold a shot and not cut every two seconds and done.
2 seconds? My favorite is during fight scenes were you're lucky to get half a second before it cuts over and over and over again 🤮😞
You solved it lmao wow amazing. This is some middleschooler type of rationale
@@cornpop838 Your profile picture is you strangling an animal
💯
@@cornpop838 You are strangling an animal for a profile picture
The key is that she said: Ascension to Darksidedness... one does not ascend into darkness... only fall.
We need to put an official petition out to make the show non canon. Point blank period. We'd get so many signatures so fast. This shit is disgusting. The complete and total lack of respect for the already established characters and lore is beyond disbelief.
Honestly, at this point, i choose my own canon
@@matthewguggino5488 fr bruh Legends is still canon to me, jus cause disney bought star wars shouldnt mean they can jus say all the older amazing stories and content like games jus arent cannon anymore, I knew the shit was dead as soon as that happened, but somehow it jus keeps getting worse smh...
Maybe also add that season 2 should never happen, and I'm in aswell
Give it the Willow series treatment.
@@victor1998-swe well if it’s uncanonised it doesn’t matter if they make a season 2 or not all the 1 brain cell Disney fans can enjoy it and it won’t destroy proper cannon. Disney will also lose more money too
"Everything before NEEDS to be respected."
They made all the books non canon on day 1. They knew they wanted to DEI sw
@@BankaiFever , as a Transgender person Star Wars was always Inclusive in the older movies and books that Disney chose to ignore. Two examples, Darth Vader was voiced by James Earl Jones and there have been a ton of cool female characters before Disney owned Star Wars. I think what bothers people the most is them making all the books non canon, trying too hard to make a already Inclusive franchise more Inclusive, and a lack of respect for the lore. The books and Comics I grew up with will always be Cannon in my head.
Yo your Yoda voice is actually really good lol you could voice him for an animated thing and it would look and sound funny asf but accurate
What's wild Is she didn't even fully understand yodas understanding of the clones and the whole council knew..
the quote from agent Smith in the matrix is playing in my mind. "This is my world, my world".
It was nice to see you make the rounds on Nerdrotic and Drinker. Thanks for that.
The Jedi are now C.P.S.?
This is outrageous!
It's Unfair!!
How can one be put onto the council and not be a master?
Totally uncalled for!!!
That has always been in the job description, seriously.
@@Byronic19134 nah, Jedi didn't conscript children to save them from bad parents, they were conscripted because they were force sensitive
7:43 I heard that and i was like "Wtf is she talking about ? George Lucas holds the key because he made the fucking franchise and understands his creation better than everyone. How is it untrue ?" 😂
Prime example of a woman with Daddy issues.
"Men creating things = bad patriarchy"
I just feel Leslie is Master Vernestra in the Acolyte. Wanted to be important in the beginning, hiding everything and, in the end, having tummy issues for the backlash, blaming everything into a faulty man and having to explain everything to the higher-ups. The resemblance is incredible.
"Master Yoda, I tried to placate the committee by framing Sol, but hearing that veteran Jedi Master went murderously insane out of the blue didn't work. I even wore my ceremonial 'lying to a senate committee' robes, but those didn't help either. But on the plus side, at least I didn't have to tell them that basically everything after Brendock was my fault for having hidden that I oopsie'd my padawan into a Sith who trained the real assassin and corrupted Sol's padawan after she had quietly and peacefully left the Order.
Now, if we want this story to hold up, we've got dozens of witnesses spread across the galaxy that need to be silenced, including a bunch of Jedi. I think that little badger guy we have sniff everyone's laundry knows basically everything, too.
Oh, wow. 'DefundTheJedi' is trending on Space Twitter. That senator who made a political platform out of decrying Jedi as unchecked timebombs is having a field day with this." -Venestra, moments before getting Windu'd out a nearby window by an enraged goblin
I thought they only included Ki-Adi-Mundi because Yoda was "unavailable." Not that that exempts the fact that they broke lore by including Ki-Adi-Mundi.
She finally admitted it, she made it for herself and not the fans. We finally have conirmed proof that therefore this isn't canon and only fanfiction
It might be "her show" but it is NOT her IP. What a mess
I can't believe the people on Facebook saying this show is great.
I can. McDonald's is popular.
@@batboy555 lol true
surprised to hear boomers figured out how to use streaming services
@@batboy555And delicious.
@@James_Ford4815We invented the shxt.
You need to read the collider interview. Crazy stuff in there. She said that Plagueis learned the technique from women and that the lightsaber is a phallic symbol
I see SWT. I click
"it is only natural."
Her:its my show ........
Everyone: only a sith deals in absolutes
Been saying for years Kathleen & the rest of these Disney clowns are real life Sith Lords
Also everyone: The Acolyte is a terrible show
Only the sith deals in absolutes? See how, after any scrutiny saying that doesn't help make a point
@@Echo-nn8dt yes. Thats why Darth JarJar went into hiding after the prequels and CW
@@milward4563 wtf?
@@trashcho_homeles KathKath Binks
"a spirited discussion" has strong "I wasn't yelling, I was loudly stating my opinion" vibe. Pitch Meeting is going to have a blast with this show. EDIT: Actually mad about comparing garbage writing to a classic like Rashomon.
I have genuinely not heard anyone say that acolyte is a great show
It’s only she/they’s on twitter that are saying it for likes and engagement money
I have seen a few people say they enjoyed it but as passive Disney plus subscribers that watch tv after work rather than loving the franchise and lore
@@Daveluvutube This. I know 1 person who enjoys it and they self admittedly "don't follow star wars" so aslong as you don't like star wars to begin with you can avoid hating the show
Some movie reviewer name grace enjoyed episode 1-6.....she genuinely enjoyed it
@@TheT4Gz I mean even from a non Star Wars perspective the story itself doesn’t even make sense and there is some questionable acting but I can see how casual viewers might enjoy it. U know the type of people who watch tv but actually sit on tik tok
If I had a Time Machine I’d go back to before George sold lucasfilm and show him the acolyte and be like this is what comes out of selling the company
Nor hire KK.
this is a good star wars theory arc
0:36 Unofficial quotefrom Leslye Headland “”I wouldn’t say fight hard I just reminded bob what info I had on him””
Pretty much lol given her dealings with Weinstein it wouldn't surprise me if that's how she wriggled her way to where she is and how she got allowed to keep producing this crappy show
Anakin's rage/hate gave him sith eyes, and his saber didn't change? yet hers did and no sith eyes in 20 seconds?
she was touching the kyber crystal because the lightsaber was broken, which is why she was able to bleed it. anakin’s light saber was intact and there was physical contact with the kyber crystal so he couldn’t bleed it.
@@toludosh8971I’m still not understanding how sols lightsaber broke with a throw that weak lmao obi Wan’s lightsaber fell off a landing platform hundreds of meters high straight to the floor in RoTS and commander Cody gave it back to him intact… feels cheap
Sabers were different than
I may be brutal, but I've always found the idea of bloody swords stupid.
@@toludosh8971 npc shill
Re the part about Headland having to fight to have Yoda in- that sounds similar to Deborah Chow talking about how she had arguments with various people in Lucasfilm about having Darth Vader in the Kenobi show. So I guess we can infer that there are still people at Lucasfilm that know doing certain things would be lorebreaking or just a bad idea... but then they get overruled when KK sides with the showmakers that want to do those things.
"your arrogance blinds you"
Lesley is the real Sith Lord
Don't insult Sith Lord's, they are smart, this woman is Bantha dung.
Leslye Headland: "the power of manyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy"
Also Leslye Headland: "this show and everything in it is ONLY by ME."
As Theory rightfully said. Of course this is "your show" Leslye, which also means when the story is trite, characters inconsistent and/or boring and contrived, its entirely YOUR fault it ended up that way.
This is effectively an embedded confession that Leslye wants ALL the creative freedom to do whatever she wants, regardless of its respect to Star Wars or storytelling, but doesn't want the responsibility.
This show can not be "for everyone" but also be "your show", it is either one or the other. They are mutually exclusive, which is exactly what the ever-changing character traits, personalities and motivations are.
Leslye can't be trusted with any form of storytelling, because being a showrunner, requires BOTH a creative vision AND the responsibility to take the fall if it doesn't work. Leslye barely has the former, if at all
What a love story everyone.
Sith kills girls friend
Sith kidnaps girl
Girl sneaks peek at siths 2nd saber.
Sith licks lips at the sight of girl killing her former master.
Sith and girl hold hands.
Gave me gr-oo-mer vibes. The entire dynamic between those two came off quite disturbing whilst Headlamp over there appears to be practically drooling all over them, Mae and Green Diarrhea Chick (don't care to remember her name) included. Extremely disconcerting, it all is.
@@sootsprite6407not suprised seeing she was the secretary of groomer island
If she would have written the Acolyte as an hommage to the movie "Natural born killers" it could have worked. Show the path of one sister delving deeper and deeper into the dark side with her Sith/cuddle-Knight-of-Ren/whatever on their killing spree, disguising the kills as accidents, while an investigator is on their tracks would have been infinitely more interesting.
Yeah, healthy relationship vibes all around. Ngl they lost me at the holding hands ending, that was absolutely unnecessary.
@@fionarras4736 I would have watched that
That sounds badass
I think there is still a way to keep the Acolyte as a cannon but still, keep the original Star Wars as a cannon, too. All they have to do is say it is a children's book at the Jedi's temple. It essentially educates the young Jedis that other people might have different views of the force, shows a path of emotion taken by literally all the Jedis in that show, and how it leads to disaster and spins the whole show as educating young Jedis on what not to do, and how wrong the dark side is.
As to Darth Plagues, I think they can play it in the book as "a dark shadowy figure was looking from afar.." without having to name his Plagues.
I love how subtle yet savage theory is with the whole... *MY SHOW*
So funny, but also sad. Doesn't seem like it should be Canon at all which is hard when she introduces all these well known characters...
I vote to make EU cannon and Disney fan fiction. Remember fellow nerds. Cannon is what the fans make it. We cannot allow a mega conglomerate to dictate our imaginations.
They should do a season 2 for sure. So they can create even more movie critics here on youtube!
Feels like the golden age here agian.
News flash for Leslye Headland and the executives at Lucasfilm: this is “*our* franchise,” and we aren’t talking obligated to recognize your product as the Star Wars we acknowledge as faithful to the plot and history of the franchise :/
My dog just took a giant ACA-SHIT on the carpet! Going to take forever to clean up!
@InvisibleAcropolisno the show is shitty
@@moneyman128Not as shitty as this joke.
@@Byronic19134bruh the only thing you comment about are how people’s jokes are shit? Get a life
@@Byronic19134naah the show is the shittiest
07:14 ~ 07:20 This scenario is already better and more creative than the entire series 🤣🤣🤣
I am kind of amused how the situation of the story is similar to reality:
Sol being the scape goat for failure (Fans being the scape goat for failure)
Venestra spreading the above lie (Leslye spreading the above lie)
Evil being the "good guys" (Leslye being the "good guy")
Also "This is my show". Only a Sith deals in absolutes plus the quote of "Ascending to the darkside" when usually it is called in lore falling or succumbing to the darkside
I have a strange theory that she wants the stranger to eventually become Palpatine and be tasked with ending Mae so he and his new master can run tests to try and create life and to just paint men as untrustworthy......but that is just a theory I thought of whilst writing this xD
I love it when you upload
That’s what she said.
We all do
Theory speaks straight facts
Getting hot in here
Upload all over my face
Theory, hope you mention how she was a personal assistant to Harvey. That’s crucial information for your audience to be aware of if they aren’t.
Chat gpt came up with this rewrite of the show in less them 2 min:
-andarra ist killed by Mae fighting bountyhunters set up by mae
-the council says its an accident
-Former padawan Sol investigates the death and finds a knife with a symbol he has Seen before
-Sol wants to go on a solo mission to Figuren everything out but is joined by his Close friend yord and his padawan jackie
-the go to another Jedi Temple to find sols Former Master to ask him about this symbol
-he says they have to find kelnaka beschaust he was studying this
-Master Torbin gets killed by mae
-sol sees mae and thinks his Former Student osha gone rouge
-they then find osha and Arrest her
-meanwhile venestra keeps an eye on sol
- sol thinks osha is innocent
- the go to kelnaka but find him dead
-Episode 5 but with just yord sol and Jackie
-we then learn what Happens in the past
- sol, andarra, Master torbin and Master kelnaka are on brendok
-they find this cult of Former Jedi aniseya and two Kids
-anisaya is a Former Jedi and love intrest of sol
-she left because she got Pergament by sol but he Never know
- anisaya wants to bring Balance to the force through her twins
-Training one in the dark side and one in the light
-osha wants to join the Jedi and
-osha gifts her unique neclace to her sister mae
-they Right and by accident start a Fire
-mae bumps her Head an gets concussed
-osha sees her mother being killed by sol
-we know aniseya was Betrages by the other cultists and sol accidentaly kills aniseya
-she wants sol to protect their children
-mae wakes up and doesnt know where she is
-sol finds her and thinks its osha because of the neclace
-he wants to look for his other daughter but everything ist burning and the other Jedi say she ist probably dead
-Sol trains osha (mae)
-the real osha survives and seeks revenge
-the stranger ist someone who was a padawan to venestra but was fascinated by the Sith
-he was betrayed by venestra and wants to rebuild the Sith
-he thinks he is the First Sith in 1000years and wants an apprentice
-plagueis is hunting him in secret because the stranger could destroy the Plans of the real Sith
-venestra finds out about sols past
-last Episode basically like the Show, but venestra realy believes sol did all this
The sad part is we know how passionate SWT is about star wars and as he continues to cover this shite he keeps calm. Usually censors himself and remains professional. Its GOT to be incredibly painful for him.
I swear the vid was glitched yesterday, I got the notification for it, clicked it and then it didn’t pop on your channel at all until today.
Hot new take:🔥
Lets all just agree that The Acolyte is not cannon!?
I opened the video as soon as I got the notification on my phone
The influence is strong with this one
Another problem is, Leslye is acting as if she is doing something different by bringing the integrity of the Jedi into question, and is on a high horse about it.
George Lucas already did this with the prequels... Bioware already did this with Knights of the Old Republic... What about The Clone Wars animated series?
We weren't always supposed to see the Jedi as the ultimate good guys. It's already been established that what they do is morally ambiguous. This. Is. Nothing. New. It's just bad.
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