Powercreep in Yugioh - The Three Effect Rule
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- Justin attempts to explain the newest trends in powercreep in yugioh.
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idk if it is the same in tcg and ocg as in master duel but i can say there the greed of konami goes even further. the use the banlist to harm current meta decks so hard they dont been really playable when the new meta arives. in example tear was so watered down that is close to unplayable only with a 2nd and 3rd archetype (in that case kash and horus) its viable while snake eyes/ fireking runs rampage. (not to speak of rouge decks like evil twin, tribrigate, eldrich ect). if we compare tear vs snake eyes both full power then tears win but there are few aspects on tears what i value way over snake eyes. snake eyes is just "dont let ur opponent play" with generic stuff like baron from extradeck. while tears is more of a control type. (1 spin here, 1 pop there, 1 summon negate, 1 once per turn monster effect negate) that operates fully on his own archetype with own boss monster.
yes tear cards are generic but tbh beside of despia tear there isnt really a big use outside of the archetype.
and the biggest plus point on tear vs snake eye imo is that tears supports interaction from both players while snake eye is just handtraps plus full negate
dont get me wrong tears release in Master Duel i disliked because the other playable decks in this time was not good enought but a tear mirror match was awesome because the interactions was insane.
with the current powercreep in fire archetype decks, full power tears would fit way better
Dragon Rulers: 4 effect, only one and only once per turn
Now several monsters has 3 effect and all of them can be used once per turn
Crazy part is they could've errata'd "dragon ruler monster" text to not stack them but never did. It nerfed bazoo and skull lair hard lol not as bad as ring of destruction (no ties/lethal damage to opponent and can't target own monster). In the old as it was cheap discard and removal for stuff that didn't come back, let alone snatch steal lol. The fact change of heart is free shows you how much power creep happened too. I got tired of the nostalgia trips to the attic every year let alone speed duel didn't bother with xyz, synchro, links or a good battle pack sealed format.
And then half are quick effects so now your opponent is playing your turn too.
@@chazzitz-wh4lythis is exactly what makes modern Yugioh unenjoyable
@@chazzitz-wh4lylabyrinth and snake eyes decks do this all the time lol
When you think about it Dragon Rulers were strong because of the era they came out in, and they still got hit fast. They only got banned when a table 500 FTK deck came out with Dark Matter.
Can't wait for powercreep to reach deck-trap monsters that summon themselves and can't be responded to when your opponent takes a breath
Soot Blossom is annoying the way it special summons a 200 atk nothing during your opponent's mainphase1, but at least I'll always have a way to stop them from searching their deck once per turn. Plus it technically thins the deck and lets me shuffle what I put on the bottom more towards the middle incase I want to discard half my deck later.
You can use it as tribute but you still need an extra monster, really it just lets you remove it from the field if not destroyed in battle.
Yeah, idk. I think the power creep is more of an issue than a blessing. But that's different from person to person.
Your deck trap can do nothing against my not in the game trap. I can just counter your card with a card I'm not actually running in my deck.
Also, I own a copy of the new Exodia in my collection back at home so you just lose.
We do have monsters that can special summon themselves from the deck, so it's only a matter of time.
@@goddessbraxia Now that it's turn 5, my Time Machine special summons itself from the previous game on the other side of the convention center. But not before it battles the Eldrich Stalker lvl 3 I'm going to send backwards in my next game, causing me to lose 800LP and discard a card from my hand.
The three effect rule is exactly what I have been thinking about for the past year, I think you put it perfectly. It feels like nearly every deck is just a cookie cutter copy of another deck, because all of the decks are designed nearly the same at their core.
And by far, by FAR the biggest problem I have with the gameplay is the complete lack of restrictions. They just don't exist anymore. Why can Snake-Eyes be a Link, Fusion, Synchro, and XYZ deck all in one? Why does Tearlament, a fusion deck, not lock you into fusion monsters the turn you use them? I don't want to give the impression that "meta deck bad", but I genuinely find the game so much more enjoyable when a deck has a core identity, theme, and game plan rather than being able to do everything in the game. (Seriously, why the heck can these decks easily summon stuff like Barone De Fleur when it has absolutely no reason to?)
@CudaWudaShuda I understand that. The biggest issue I have is exactly one of the points you made, that some decks are more locked into a strategy than others. Why is Exosister, SHS, Swordsoul, etc, restricted when other decks just have full reign to do whatever they want? I agree that Konami has a clear intent for card design, but it's not for a good or fun reason. In fact, we have almost never heard what Konami's card designers' thoughts are for this game outside of very niche examples, like with Nibiru or Dark Ruler No More.
Unless they express why they designed a card or deck a certain way, the only real conclusion is that it was designed to be broken solely because they want to push product. "Sure, let your fusion deck summon XYZ monsters, that just makes it better to sell more! This other deck though...nope, only XYZs."
Don't get me wrong, I love being able to lab out combos and summon Naturia Exterio in Goblins. That stuff is amazing and hilarious. However, that is what it should end at. A goofy combo you can pull off every now and then. Not every single game with no penalty or restriction.
I don't like archetype locks for entire decks but it does seem like some cards are strong enough to require it. If branded fusion is strong enough to be locked then surely Kitkallos is as well. Konami released Kitkallos as a normal summon, as in, normal summon Reinohart>effect. Wtf were they smoking.
I understand you but if it would be that way you describe, then a new camp would had been formed which would b*tch and moan about that they cant do everything but are then locked in one card-type. Then ofc you have others which will pop up and say YGO is dead cuz it never rly evolved. I guess its konamis take to put in even more broken and blwon out methods to play the game to then still keep the franchise afloat.
Idk about most, but the Tear thing is kinda dumb, because of their Lore. If Tear were to be locked out of anything but fusions, using Visas Starfrost would be stupid (considering their field spell searches it), that along with all the other Heart extra deck monsters.
I was just thinking about how the best XYZ deck ever is full power Tear
Honestly the worst part of post-modern ygo is the generic negate boss monster. Yeah snake eyes is super overpowered, but at least you can try to do something about it.
I’ve known that cards are power crept, even decks that felt unstoppable just a few years ago. But you finally put into words how cards are power crept.
To think that we escaped two Tier Zero Formats (with Tearlament, Kashtira, and MAYBE Superheavy Samurai and Unchained (I’m not too entirely sure)) only to land right smack dab into another. 😔
whoa whoa whoa we had a good time around AGOV release. Unchained was def the strongest (or one of the strongest) but so much other stuff was playable too. SP was just the one big pain point iirc
Superheavy and unchained? Lmao
Only tear was tier 0 then we had fire decks. Every other format in between sure the decks may had a large representation but no where near as dominant as fire and tear was
Tear was the last tier 0 format Kash was close but didn't make it
Kashtira was definitely a tier 0 format. If you say otherwise your delusional
Honestly: I think in terms of general accessibility yugioh is in a pretty solid place… Juuuuust as long as you’re only wanting to play on a locals level or less. In terms of budget decks there’re a ton of options that compared to every other deck in the game are solid. It’s just when you start caring about tiered events is when the gap between those budget decks and tier one is most apparent.
Depend on your locals, in my city the local are with multiple country winner, ycs winner, world player and a very bunch of wcq winner or top i feel the meta and you only go 1-4 or 2-3 at best with a less Tier 2 deck. The previous meta are fun, sadly Edison price does up because ppl getting tired on current format, if you not have friend who play like you cheap fun deck, your just out of the game
A sad and good point your comm remind me is, they print a lot of useless card so that make ppl possibility to build deck for 5$
Honestly: this is cope
Synchro and early Xyz era were the most fun to play. There was actual interaction between players. Nowadays all the "interaction" you get is using handtraps to negate during turn 1 and using omni negates during turn 2. It's all about disrupting plays, getting to your win condition and stopping the opponent from getting to their win condition, not about managing resources and finding a way to play around the opponent's strategy.
Top decking a card that helps you break your opponent's board is so much more satisfying than doing a 15-minute long combo line over and over again.
Basically "this reads like a custom card" becomes more and more accurate. Anyway i will say in archetype handtraps have been around for a long time i mean theres even a archetype that is almost purely handtraps aka psyframe. The difference is the in archetype handtraps tend to be really strong now but strong in their own deck vs a generic handtrap like one of the ghost girls
As someone who reads and even makes customs:
I'd rather have customs at this point.
@@youtubeuniversity3638 i mean I saw a towers that gains attack if it battles and can nuke easily for 8k damage last night so maybe not
You should do a video on the accessibility of Pokémon since you mentioned it…
I started watching your channel for one piece content and I subbed after watching other videos like these.
I use these videos to see what could happen to one piece in the future and it also helps when I go to locals to talk with other people who play other games.
You make awesome content that even people who don’t play the game you are covering can still understand and enjoy.
I know you have been in a rough patch but don’t stop creating… or at least I hope you don’t lose the joy for it.
good news about covering Pokémon. I recently bought a deck and will be going to locals so i can potentially speak more on the game
what ruin yugioh to me :
-monster given half-page long effect
-monster given effect to negate
-OP boss card but ridiculously easy to summon
and modern monster would at least 3 to 4 five of these 9and some aint even some sort of archetype boss card) :
-in hand effect
-self ss effect
-upon hit field effect
-passive, face up on the field effect
-immunity
-doing something once per turn
-can negate
-when leave field effect
-in gy effect
-when banished effect
I think the current meta is quite rough. The coin flip is still way too important and turns take way too long so one player just sits there and can't do anything. And if they use a handtrap, the enemy can often still play around it.
But eventually power creep might actually help this game to feel more interactive again. If all of the decks have powerful deck-specific hand traps that can also help them build up their board, you are able to build your boad on the enemy turn before the enemy can even set up a negate. So if it doesn't matter which turn it is, it becomes more interactive and probably more fun again.
I like the way you differentiated modern Yu-Gi-Oh card effects.
Oh hey! Love your channel and your thoughts on powercreep in the game also.
Quick question, do you have any thoughts on what the "end game" of this power creep could become? Like, what effects would be considered universally "too much" for yourself and other players?
I'm just going to print proxies and play with friends and family .
I did that... but no family members or friends to play with. 😭
I do that with character decks
Tbf the online simulators are just less work. I don't have any problems with proxies but its just easier to play online for most things.
@@shawnjavery that's fair, they are the easiest. I have my decks built on simulators too but my friend group and I prefer paper play. It just feels better for us in person rather than online
@@fantasmabrasileiro21 Same :(
A lot of reason you've listed are why I usually stick with online sims like Dueling Book, EDOpro, or even Master Duel. The frequent powercreep is a lot more manageable when I'm not breaking my wallet just to play a game I enjoy.
I think yugioh wants to weed out the IRL card game tbh. That’s what it feels like more and more each year.
@@isaacsamuel6035not really lol, its still their goldmine
Konami isn't getting hid of it so soon
@@isaacsamuel6035 They're not trying to kill their game, they're following the same line must go up shareholders first policy as every other large corporation who engages in enshittification.
The game is frustrating to play and balance as is, but at least we can try it free.
@@akiradkcnwon't they? They're clearly seeing that their sales aren't increasing, and they're not managing to get new players, that's why there's so many new simplified formats. Who in his right mind is gonna pay $1.000+ to make a deck on a game that they barely know and that is probably gonna get powercreeped in a couple of weeks
Konami barely does anything with yugioh, exept churning out set after set, amping up the power creep in the process
It's so frustrating seeing this game not receiving the care it deserves
It genuinely feels like they don’t care about their game. Just the money. Yugioh is easily the most mishandled card game out there. The power creep is absolutely insane. There’s nothing else out there like it. All because kunami refuses to put their game in formats like Pokémon does. This game is a new players nightmare. They have no chance. It really sucks
The complexity of the game was perfect in 2014. Crazy to be a full decade since that point. It's really not the same game anymore. Hard to still call it yugioh.
Its the main reason why I've multiple times have gotten big breaks from the game. Even if we are reaching the point where a big amount of fun strategies are getting support that legit makes them very playable and resistant to hand traps even on the lower tiers of archetypes. It just feels like a losing battle. Sometimes it feels I will go to an event and just lose cause the person infornt of me just has the expensive generic staple/extra deck monster. It demoralizes you to really try to go and play in your locals.
To make clear I don't mind expensive archetypes, expensive generic staples is what I mind.
If people made better spending decisions (because let’s face it there’s more important/better stuff to invest in that aren’t expensive staple cards). This wouldn’t be an issue
@@STEPHxCAit's an issue because this is a made up structure by Konami TCG. Just copy over the OCG rarity structure and that'll improve the experience plenty fold
@@STEPHxCA the issue of generic staples being too expensive, is caused by Konami. Them not printing enough copies. Price is entirely determined by playability and accessibility. (How strong and how many copies exist)
Wild of you to think consumers decisions; are why cards can be too expensive.
Working as designed
Yugioh is best when its long and grindy and resources are limited. I really miss the poker aspect of the old days where you could realistically bluff blowout cards and you could come back from quite far behind
The time wizard event in Master Duel really was one of the best events held.
All the meta decks are different but each deck individually plays the exact same. There is no longer any personality to decks, it’s just net decking and following a step-by-step guide.
I feel like the powercreep that Yugioh has seen is partially responsible for older/Time Wizard formats becoming more popular.
The game has shifted so far in card design that some people have to look backwards in order to find the game they fell in love with.
The price is the biggest problem if you want to play this game competitively, but the power creep is already enough to drive people away or feel alienated. I still like to play Yugioh sometimes, but seeing how bad the decks I've come to love or grow up with are nowadays ( Nekroz, Monarchs, Thunder Dragons, Lightsworn ) makes me sad, although I can still stomach it. The support of some of my beloved decks rejuvenates my desire to play this game.
I'm glad new Raidraptor cards don't cost 70€ per card. This is where the other side of power creep hits, however. When I get these new cards and sit down to play with friends, who similarly prefer playing with their old cards, rather than getting new Archetypes, the experience is miserable. I often find myself in non-games, because they can't keep up with the ridiculous nonsense I do. I dislike having to play against solitaire decks or play solitaire myself, and despise the fact that the only way to "fix" it is by trying to have a pre-game talk about the decks we play, MTG Commander-style, to figure out if we even get an interactive game together.
It's fine to talk negatively about something you like, especially if it's a real problem that hurts the game's accessibility.
Problem is there are people who are completely okay with shelling out $1100 USD for a deck that'll be meta for a few seasons. People like that is the reason why Konami keeps getting away with highway robbery. People vote in greedy behaviour with their wallets.
Yeah, but those people don't really help Konami. They buy singles. Not product.
@@orga7777 That still helps Konami. Those singles came from packs, in booster boxes, which konami sold. The prices of those singles affect the prices of the sets they're from. People who sell cards will buy those sets, get the cards they need, and sell them at however much they need to in order to cover the cost of the set, make some profit, and enough to reinvest into buying more sets.
People buying singles DEFINITELY helps Konami, just not directly. If this wasn't true, Konami would be working to change things. The secondary market benefits them. They may not profit directly from it, but they do make more profit because of it.
@@antonyfranco2866They can't rely on vendors buying bunk product all the time in bulk for online single sales forever. It is not sustainable, especially since stores are dropping Yugioh more and more these days because it isn't profitable. They will have to change things inevitably.
@@orga7777the singles come from people mass buying product though. You need to buy a case to be able to sell a playset of bonfire. That factors into your selling price when you sell the singles. I live in Japan and the best cards are so cheap here and people still buy product.
@@antonyfranco2866the secondary market helps Konami wether they like it or not. If Konami wanted to make it illegal to sell Yugioh cards online in the USA, they’d be sadly disappointed.
Konami does profit from the secondary market directly. People buy boxes to chase cards, that sell high… the secondary market is the key to understanding chase cards.
I love Yu-Gi-Oh!, it's my favorite game, but just like you said near at the end of the vídeo, it's hard to even recommend it, it's hard to really enjoy it.
This game is so bigger, so much bigger than Meta, Competitive, Tournaments, YCS... That's why I only play with cards that I can affort and I only play with people who run away from the Meta just like me, people who I can have a really good time playing with.
It's a shame locals and tournaments are becomimg more and more frustrating, with really expesive decks and staples like S:P Little Knight, it's a shame the majority of players only reunite to play on these events, but what can we do? I try to cope with it.
Konami doesn't care about Yu-Gi-Oh! anymore, they just want momey, but the players care, we care about the healthy of that awesome game, we need go explore it, trying banning meta decks and some staples for a specific friends only tournament, only using cards used in anime, Archetype only decks, Yu-Gi-Oh! is way bigger that we can imagine.
Even if Konami is slowly killing their game, fans will keep it alive, and we can always come back to older formats, older rules sets, our good memories that make this game look better than it actually is, there are still light at the end of the tunnel.
Old and alternative formats are amazing. It's why at every ycs and regionals the side event time wizard tournaments fill up immediately. Konami has been acknowledging this but I wish they'd do more with it. Such as fully adding alt format game modes to master duel.
We have come up with an idea to incentivize the non meta competitive players to show up and play tournaments. We limited the decks to a total of 250 of our currency, what it's about 50 dollars. But it's not a 1-5 conversion, cards go for like 5-10x the dollar price, so it's like we can only build decks that are 30 dollars total. That way a person needs to compromise what the decks big cards going to be. I'm curious on how it's going to turn out to be honest, and I'm happy my fun decks will see play
It's nice to duel my friends with my Crusadia deck
I hate yugioh so much. All it ever did for me was waste my time and money.
The least it could do is be fun, but it stopped being that a long time ago.
Sorry to break your bubble, but if players cared we wouldn't be in this conundrum.
I've noticed an emerging trend, its becoming a pattern.
Decks are playing on the opponents turn.
New decks have the capacity to make smaller plays and combos during their opponents turn to supplement their end board.
This enables them to sidestep hard once per turn restrictions and have a lot of variability in when they need to interact.
The future of the game IMO, but sucks that it would be an Ash-Blossom level of power gap for old decks
I have a friend that plays branded, and after a 20+ card combo, he's doing 5 fucking things during every end phase and another 5 whenever i negate/pop ANY of his shit. it's so fucking ignorant
Not to tout Magic as an solution, but to compare: mana is the limiting factor we don't have here, so you can just cast spells for days...
Yugioh's resource system used to be turns (aka normal summons), but now both turns are fair game to play for either player. There's literally nothing controlling anything.
@@ninezerotwo1778 its time for konami to make new master rule that limit summon shit each turn and also limit shit you can summon on opponent turn. a good argument for them to do it, because it will fuck everyone deck and they can just sell new card to make more money.
Konami really do be doing with power creep indeed.
The true problem of Yugioh is konami themselves. They are greedy and care only about profit and have irrepairably damaged the game.
I dont understand how yugioh - of all card games - is the hardest to proxy. MTG leads the world via proxies, and yet, Yugioh cant? Its the definitive TCG to proxy for!
Because Komoney can't of any profitable ways to gain money through that idea...
They dont allow Asian English so proxies is beyond any expectation
Yu-Gi-Oh cards aren't standard playing card size so it's harder to use online printing services like magic players can
mtg has cards that are worth thousands of dollars that you have to play. and proxies arent legal for sanctioned events if you want to proxie cards to play with your friends no one is stopping you
You can proxy for casual play but for competitive proxies are not allowed in yugioh.
I play Master Duel exclusively, I can see Konami using future knowledge to push for more URs in heavily used archetypes. Snake-Eyes is an all UR archetype except for Snake-Eyes Ash, which is obviously made as an escape in case Konami needs to neuter the deck and not refund URs.
Yeah, it's absolutely disgusting and they don't even attempt to hide their greed. "We released this currently tier 0 deck early in MD so you'll buy it sooner. Have fun!"
They know they can milk TCG and Master Duel players but can't milk the OCG because of how competitive the card game market is over there
Even staples in midterm decks are URs now in masterduel SMH
*Komoney
I play YGOPro only now. Just want to simulate decks for fun now.
I got distracted by the Purrely art and had to rewind haha. I like the effect you put on all the cards that makes them look like they're ultimate rares.
I predict we are going to get "hand traps" in the extra deck. Basically Effect Veilers in the extra deck.
That would be horrific.
Elder Entity N'tss: "Yo"
Cards like Zeus already feel like a half-step toward that. All it's missing is having the summon happen on attack declaration rather than after the BP.
@@frostbite_1244the game already is horrific. Because your opponent only needs to draw Mathmech Circular in order to summon a full board with 3 face down traps that means he always has access to the 2 effect veiler, ash and imperm in his hand.
The game is so toxic and shitty.
At that point, they might as well put a new trap deck zone onto the field. Konami will love selling the new sets with trap-deck exclusive cards.
The powercreep is legit THE main reason people are opting to play the game online instead of IRL nowadays. Its just too damn much of a money sink just to lose to someone running tons of UR cards (generic or otherwise) cause they have a bigger wallet and more time on their hands.
OK the card quality point is pure slander, MTG is getting away with far worse.
I mean you get some of the foils out of the pack curled rounder than a pringle and they definitely don't get unbent ever. Also the quantity of misprints has gotten to the point that even misprint collectors don't value the ones from newer sets anymore. And that is just what I remembered off the top of my head, can Yu-Gi-Oh product replicate that?
If not then MTG keeps the dubious honor of being the undefeated champion of low card quality.
Misprints are very frequent in yugioh, seen many instances of people opening all foil sets and getting cards ranging from completely blank (just foiling no art) to card text being shifted all over the place, to pack cutting errors that crimp the top or bottom edge of the card.
@@frig7014 ok, hadn't seen that YGO got that bad as well
@@younasdar5572its not *super frequent* but I know I'd be pissed if I spent $80 on a box and effectively had a blank in one of the secret slots. recently one of the big youtubers, farfa I think, did a box opening for maze of millennium and one of the cards had this white dust all over it from where the paint on another card in the pack completely crumbled off.
Bruh anyone who thinks the game of yugioh now is better than what it used to be is insane. I used to remember games going over the 10 turn mark often. You used to be able to be creative with your deck and still actually have a viable shot at winning even against the meta decks; I know because I used to do it all the time. I brought decks I made up entirely on my own or with the help of some friends of mine at the time to regionals and went as high as 5-3 (I was really close to topping but I bricked game 1 of round 8 and it was over from there.) I would do that kinda stuff for fun, in between the events I'd take more seriously. I wouldn't dare try to play the game like that now; I'd just get stomped by Snake Eye, or whatever other ridiculously strong strategy becomes relevant to sell cards. I just want a physical Rush Duel but Konami wont give it to me smh.
I kinda wish people would just boycot konami product, but they are afraid that their local game stores would close. Overall konami has people by the balls and they are all too willing to comply
That the thing, the very people who were complaining about $1000 went and bought it after they made their complaints. I don't think you have to outright boycott everything. But if they see people are not buying the upshifted and short printed stuff as much it would have an effect I think.
@@chriswillis4960 prob, if ppl dont buy 1000$ deck, the deck price will reduce so ppl will get it for 700$ so that put the entire community in a dilemma, no one in the community have the power to make all player agree to stop buying product
Konami has a clause with the stores that they're obligated to buy all the stuff they release before any cards get revelead. Not buying products from stores only hurts the local store because konami already sold their products. The problem is much beyond a simple solution like "just don't buy then"
OTS store are basically non-existent here already. Some had to beg a board game store to let THEM do all the work and they can just act as a front and take the profits. It's fucked.
The entire country has like 2 stores in the capital that legit still carry and host events.
It sucks to have to buy from the local stores just to keep them afloat as well because it's often a 20% extra due to VAT alone compared to cardmarket.
Then you have the fact that konami product aside from maybe structure decks and 1 set a year of many is not worth the cardboard it's printed on, let alone the box price.
It's already a miracle that people are dedicated enough to this game to keep it going.
@@kqjut3I mean yes thats true, but companies only listen to money at the end of the day. If Konami profits out the ass with X Y or Z they will make more of it and make it even harder to get the good cards next time. So if a game store or whatever distributor works with them says "I dont want to buy anymore my stuff isnt selling" then likely Konami is going to realize people are sick of their shit and make some changes. Companies don't have to be OTS stores, they can easily hold un-sanctioned events for their player base. While I dont understand the exact contractual obligations. I'm sure being an OTS store gives stores a discount on new product, while also ensuring Konami ships X amount of product to them, for better or worse, as well as OTS packs, and promotions like Lost Art.
What i hate most is the fact that these "cost" end up going into an extender or other effects so basically cost isn't really a cost anymore
in 10 years, we will have decks that draw 10 cards with no restrictions, and have a board full of negates and still be considered weak.
the powercreep in yugioh is so extrem, you basicaly can't play cards that are 1 or 2 years old, because the creep is so fast
I believe the problem is not each different summoning mechanic, but the cards (archetypes) with tons of effects. Each card on snake-eye has 3 effects, and they can be activated during either turn. An example of a deck half decent is D/D/D which also spam monsters and have a "good" endboard, but just 2 negations (3 with High Genghis which only work during the player's turn). Yes, griphon is a 3 effects card but they activate during different steps and it's the only one (i don't count the pendulums effects in this case because the scales are usually other monsters). Also for the DDD you need a lot of resources and a bit of luck with the opening hand. Decka like snake eye just need 1 card that is searchable and it summons itself just because. SHS is the same, but in this case you not only have a 1 card combos but a not once per turn card too.
I was just about to talk about Gryphon Vs Poplar and how you can easily identify what archetype will be pushed to be meta just by their wording. Yes, wording is fundamental even if it makes minor differences. For example D/D could be a as oppressive as Tear 0 with only changes in wording, yet they became irrelevant on release.
For anyone not knowing what Gryphon does:
1) Special from hand in DEF that activates if you control a D/D
2) Draw a card if pendulum summoned by discarding a D/D or Dark Contract as cost
3) Search a D/D card when revived from GY.
Would it hurt to summon in ATK while it has 1200 ATK/DEF and Fen has double? Why isn't it a starter by using "if you control no monsters, or you control 1 D/D"? Why is the search effect on the revive instead of Normal/Special summon? Why is the draw effect on Pendulum Summon and not the search effect? Why do you need to already have a 3 card combo to get the search by reviving from GY?
BTW it sounds horrible and it was the best support card for the deck. But it's so easy to drive the point home with that. Meanwhile cards like Circular abuse the mechanic of cost so they won't lose to Ash while they have 0 activation requirements.
Gilgamesh (the link 2) places exactly 2 scales exclusively from the deck, not "hand or Deck", not "up to 2". This means if you used a scale to make a play for enough materials you cant activate the effect at all, and if you drew a scale you need to place something else that removes itself. To top it of, it has a floating effect when destroyed by card effect, or by AN OPPONENT'S ATTACKING MONSTER so that you can't crash it. Meanwhile Ib/Denglong are super generic that float just by farting in their direction.
Now imagine if Poplar placed itself in the S/T Zone when added to hand, Special Summon itself if sent to the GY, then search a card when Special Summoned from the S/T Zone. This is how Gryphon feels like.
i was literally thinking about what decks i would recommend to new players, as a few friends of mine expressed interest in trying to get into the game through master duel; i felt similarly stumped trying to come up with decks that are fairly good for newcomers and are all different and teach different mechanics and playstyles, in the end all i could come up with was Swordsoul, Cyber Dragon & Labrynth lmao
If you have money I'd recomend kashtira. Floowandereeze, invoked shaddoll dogmatika, and despia are also good.
You cant go wrong with Runick. I personally play a Dogmatika brew.
@@four-en-tee😭😭😭😭 another runick player
Excellent video and points. I think Konami is punching above their weight now though, it's crazy how many sets they push out in a year and the formula has been more or less the same.
Recently some Pro level players have been hinting at the glaring issues and casual players have been more vocal as well. Ygo is 100% going to selfdestruct in the future, playing online sims is the way for now imo.
0:11 That is not what tier 0 means. Tier 0 doesn't mean only one deck is viable, it just means one deck has an overall higher power level than other decks, and the majority of the meta is formed around it. You're likely going to devote your entire side deck to that specific deck, and play main deck counters to it, but it doesn't mean other strategies aren't viable. Anti-Meta decks will still thrive vs a tier 0 strategy, but might not have an as consistent engine or as high of a ceiling, or may suffer in other matchups. There are also some decks that exists in the top cuts of tier 0 formats, like currently Voiceless Voice is topping, and we're still consistently seeing decks like Kashtira, Branded Despia, and Floowandereeze in the top cut of big events. These decks are consistently topping, so we know they have the power level to be able to contend vs the tier 0 deck, they just have a lower player count and less top players are choosing to play them. Tier 0 is equally as formed around what top players are choosing to play as it is how strong a deck is. During Tearlaments tier 0 there were still plenty of other decks winning, it's just the majority of top players were also playing Tearlaments. It was the best deck no doubt, but the power level wasn't so insanely beyond everything else available. It's based on multiple factors.
Current monsters have way too many effects.
The way Konami is managing yugioh, makes it feel like Konami wants, American player's to shift more towards, Proxies and Oricas. It's sad to think about the amount of times, Konami has used these awful business practices.
These last Four years of hyper inflation, has really exacerbated the general economies, of the world too though.
This is why I ignore meta decks as I’m not shelling out 1000 dollars for a deck. I stick with my rogue type decks like Aliens and make them work with my own creative deck building. I don’t need to win to have fun and if I win easily with a meta deck is it even worth it? The harder you work for something, the more satisfying it feels when you finally achieve it. I think one of the ways we can slowly change Konami’s greedy ways is vote with your wallet and stop buying into their new product, but that would require everyone to agree and stand in unison against Konami.
I too like aliens
From a pure game design perspective, I quite like where the game is going. With a few exceptions, decks have been getting grindier and grindier while still maintaining the fast-paced YGO that some (including me) love.
I love that Konami's bringing out more ways to interact beyond saying "n o" like popping which still resolves most effects, or shoving cards into backrow. The lowered or oddly-specific restrictions also helps decks feel less cookie-cutter as well; I know they never were and that tech card choice had lots of skill expression, but it's really cool to mix and match engines to see how things fit together. You get to see cards in whole new combinations. If the match is between decks of comparable power level, there's so much interaction and skill. Alas, that's the catch; decks must be of comparable power and ideally affordable for the vast majority.
So much of the game's issues really come down to Konami's shitty pricing imo. This Contemporary Era (name suggestion?) of YGO and its new design philosophy could be really cool and interesting if only it were more accessible from official channels. As it is, I'll probably just proxy stuff to have fun with these cool new decks at a chill locals or with friends.
I ended up watching this video again because I had some things on my mind in relation to "power-creep." Would you consider doing a video on decks that could potentially become meta again if their bnb cards were no longer on the banned list (prankids is one that comes to mind)? Let's be honest, some of the "power creep" is just artificial. If block dragon was taken off the banned list would adamancipator/megalith become a force again?
I have an idea kinda like that I've been working on. It might be a while before I release it though.
One point i have to mention is that while i like this new direction, i feel like old decks that can be sped up should be sped up to compete. Even just one card can turn your favorite pet deck into something for locals.
As an example, my favorite deck, Myutants, were designed with Postmodern in mind. While they can easily be moved over to the Current power level with 1 great piece of support, the issue is that while I’m waiting for said support the deck is completely unplayable, and that frustrates me.
Only issue with that is that one crazy new piece of support just ends up as the deck’s biggest choke point. And really old archetypes would need a lot more help than just one card. Like the only original Fire King card being played currently is Fire King Island. Even Arvata is legacy support that came out way later. Everything else is just the new stuff, at which point just make a new archetype. If you take a somewhat new archetype you’d need to go the Mathmech route and make the support busted and inherently play around hand traps, which just gets frustrating to play against and even playing with it won’t feel good because you just lose if you don’t open said busted support or a way to get to it.
Generally though, you're gonna want 2 or 3 new high-powered cards. Not every deck can be fixed with a Circular, they're just too old.
The problem with that the end resilt leads to either having one support card that's completely busted in a vacuum, or it leads to a total overhaul of the archetype that sands away everything that made it unique.
These decks shouldn't need either just to keep up, the power creep should have never gotten this bad to begin with.
Id argue mtg's card quality is waaay worse then yugiohs. At least yugioh foils dont curl up like pringles
It's really sad to see this game become so inaccessible. For a little while things seemed to be doing better after rarity collection, but with bonfires and the SS package being so ridiculously expensive it just sucks.
That's how konami operates. They print expensive cards, then reprint them much much later to create good will and more money, and then they just print more expensive cards.
Latest format is by far the most disgusting example of it too. Multiple sets of support, a structure, and gutting the previous format's tiered decks too guarantee a tier 0 meta
Rarity Collection was always going to be merely the bone Konami throws to the consumers to get them to quit yapping for a little while (see: Duel Devastator). They've made a habit of it. Expect the next one in 2 years.
Your point about certain game breaking decks previewing future norms is so relevant. Chaos was probably 4 years ahead of its time, Diamond Dude Turbo felt 5 years ahead of its time, Tele-DAD was about 4 or 5 years ahead of its time, Rulers were 4-5 years ahead of their time, Zoo was also about 4-5 years ahead etc. and it just happens these all coincide with about the same timeframe.
There's definitely something to this three effect rule. I didn't quantify one of them as recursion, but I noticed it in archetype design early on. What I noticed is that archetype design would have a summon method, and 2+"gimmicks". Like Volcanics has both blaze accelerator and burn, Predaplants has fusion focused and predator counters, Cubics have 3 seperate gameplans, Virtual world has Gates, 3-6-9. banishing, and Type/Attribute match, and Vaylantz has both moving left/right and moving up/down.
It seems like these gimmicks have started showing up on the same card or are better weaved into each other. Like Snake-Eyes is Level 1 FIRE matters but also Spell Trap zone manipulation and sending cards you control to activate effects and it all interweaves perfectly. Tearlements is Shaddolls but instead of flip effects they sending cards to the graveyard from hand or field. I feel like if Predaplants was designed today, Darlington cobra would place predator counters on your opponents creatures. If Spright were made post-snake eyes, Blue or Gigantic would have the tribute another 2 to do something effect.
This isn’t an issue of powercreep but this is about feature creep and complexity creep. Powercreep is easy to spot and is in your face. Feature and complexity creep are more insidious and happen slowly in the background without anyone noticing. Over time, cards get more and more complex. More features, bells, and whistles get added to the game and before you even realize it, the game is a garbled mess. Right now, yugioh’s complexity is feeding into itself and creating a card design arms race against itself. Cards are too op so make hand traps. Hands traps too op so make better cards to combat hand traps. It’s a vicious cycle that’s gonna continue forever.
Mtg is not a good example considering how their game is also bring ruined rn
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So much truth here, firstly I want to talk about card quality, it wasnt always this bad. I remember the Upper Deck era of Yugioh having amazing quality cards on par with the OCG. I dont mind powercreep but it tends to leave many fan favorite decks in the past and makes it hard for many to enjoy the game. The rarity shifting is annoying, while looking through my cards today I noticed some early OCG cards and realized this has always been a thing, some cards being upshifted from Common to Super Rare or Rare as early as the first sets.
I remember when misprint were more rare than ghost rare, and thus, you can enjoy the novelty of having one for collection. Nowaday, it's such common occurence they feels like indication of how minimal Konami care for their product.
I remember when I used to actually want to have ultimate rares. Now, I couldn't care less. For about a decade they've been trash. It's disgraceful how bad high rarities look.
@@ninezerotwo1778High Rarities look fine to me, but the quality is def lower. Ultras and Supers are worse then ever however. I used to like the way Ultras looked but not they just look glossy and the holofoil looks cheep.
just wanna say your editing and the presentation style of your videos are really cool. i really like the color highlighting of the important things to differentiate them, and the way cards appear on screen with their lil swiveling animation and the foiling effect.
Oddly enough, videos like this are a huge reason why you're one of my favorite Yugitubers. It is unfortunate that this one tended to be so negative, but this shit is real, and the "break in character" towards the end when you talked about how it's supposed to just be a game really fucking resonated with me. It's truly unfortunate how politics and greed are so prominent literally everywhere. Maybe it'll be better someday. Not today, but maybe someday.
I can't agree that the current state of the game is healthy, at least not overall. Sure, it might have its appeal to people who like playing a ton of cards in one turn. But for the general public it's VERY much a turn-off. And if you can't keep getting new players in, eventually the pool of existing players is going to dry up, either out of losing interest or because of the ultimate inevitability of death.
That's probably why Konami is pushing alternate methods of play - they know that, like the UAE's oil reserves, their big money maker is eventually going to dry up, and that people would be more likely to stick with digital cards when the game is this shitty.
(And before anyone says "lol play GOAT", admit it, you guys only play that format because you're a bunch of hipsters who think Cyber Dragon ruined the game. There's better formats with far more deck viability later in the game's timeline but still early enough that things haven't gone to shit - Edison and Tengu-Plant come to mind)
Mark My Words There Will Be Cards one day that just punish players for going into your phases...
Dragun : can't be targeted or destroyed by card effect , Omni negate that destroys , gains power after destroying card with negate effect , can destroy monster cards and burn for attack stat
TY-PHON : 1 card generic XYZ. Non target bounce, stops monsters over 2900k from activating effects
Yugioh is just broken. You don't even need to summon monsters properly anymore. In 2030 we will have kaijus from deck without any restrictions
The cards should simply Do Less Things. You're so right about the 3 effects, and it's too much. "1 card combo" should just not exist. You shouldn't go plus over the course of your turn, cards should CONSUME resources instead of generate MORE resources.
Glad I don't take this game too seriously because boy, the power creep is real and just keeps getting worse EVERY meta. I noticed that annoying 3 effect bs as well. And before some random idiot says "git gud", or "skill issue", I've been playing for many years (not competitively or anything), and I'm not exactly complaining that I can't beat these decks or anything. I don't play much against them in the first place, and don't play that seriously to be hurt by it. It is a fact tho that these cards having 3 or 4 effects is becoming the normal and it's still annoying. 🤷♂️
My fear is it may continue to just get worse.
Super interesting video! Tho if you think Konami gives you the worst value for cards, you surely arent up with what magic has been doing for the last few years since Hasbro took over it. You could replace "yougioh" for "magic" in the pricing section of your video, change the names of rares accordingly, and a magic player would honestly think you're talking about Wizards and Hasbro.
Great video, but I find it really funny that so many of YGOs problems boil down to the game just being to expensive 💀
I have to object narrowly to the "worst card (material) quality" claim. Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG can still make foils that are basically flat, right? That's way better than Magic is doing. We may be past the Amonkhet-era days of nonfoil Magic cards being super-warped, but... Well, fine, you CAN get nonfoils of almost every Magic card. Still, I just don't want anyone to ever let Wizards off the hook for their blatant printing problems! Oh and the card-colors are terrible these days too. They couldn't get the colors right in the early '90s, they mostly had them right in the early 2000s, but now the colors are as bad as ever. And I'm not gonna let them deflect blame to their printers either; they're a giant company!
Snake-Eyes is so annoying I just scoop. It’s not fun to play against nor to watch the same plays match after match after match.
It’s frustrating to see such boring card design trying to respond to sins of the past that are now just standard stuff. The game only has one direction to grow and that’s power creeping. Everything special summons, disrupts, extends, searches, or recurs. Deck diversity really isn’t there anymore the game is built around “optimal play” patterns and it’s all about making sure you follow the correct steps.
Yeah what I'm seeing is that most meta decks can use a lot of resources and get a ton of resources back cause of their card's graveyard effects. It's not like back in the day where if you fusion summon an elemental hero monster you're going minus 3 just to summon 1 monster whereas nowadays you can special summon a bunch of stuff and still get ++++. It's dumb.
I love how games never go bad after they peak, they're just increasingly "not for everyone".
according to invested players anyway lol
One day, the game just gonna be a best 2 out 3 coin toss. Whoever goes first will just be declared the winner that round
Yugioh is literally the rich kid's game. Top decks constantly cost $500+ and get banned so frequently that it's never worth it. You're better off buying a printer at that price point that can print holographic cards (via sticker paper or the acetone method) at that point. I grew up playing Yugioh, but I never feel like I'm truly welcome in the space due to how much top decks cost and how difdicult it is to play with rogue decks or options.
Whatever you do bro, don't look up the prices of your average Magic the Gathering deck💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
Standard mtg is less than $300 consistently. It's only formats like modern that get expensive.
Plus most of magic is commander atm so there's not much competitive incentives behind it.
@@MonkeyFightTCG More than half of the top 10 standard decks are 300-500 and that rotates. That's assuming standard is even alive in your area. The only constructed mtg alive in my area with a large playerbase is modern and pioneer. Pioneer is about 300-600. Modern is as you know anywhere from 600-1100. Yugioh is really only insanely expensive if you're buying in from 0, which is the same with mtg if you don't already own good lands. Despite the price differentials modern is probably the "cheapest" in the long run, at least it was before modern horizons sets started essentially rotating the format.
And the commander paradox is a whole other thing. Yes you have plenty of people who just proxy, but in my experience commander players drop more money on singles and sealed product than any other group of mtg players. They are the people buying special versions of cards. And commander players never have just one deck either.
We are in an especially expensive season of yugioh at the moment but the difference is not as large as people act it is.
@@dudesk099 The lands at least will always be useful once you have them. None of the fire king monsters will be useful in the next wind tier 0 deck
@@dudesk099
Rotation at least means you get a few formats out of it by just swapping whatever staples get rotated out. Plus, MTG does frequent reprints of common cards and even some archetypes. Plus around a quarter to a third of your deck is basic lands, which are 1. stupidly cheap even as singles (to the point that it's actually cheaper to buy single lands in bulk than it is to pull them from packs) and 2. always legal for play. Heck, I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure even white-border and Un-set lands are legal in standard.
I also feel like the game needs Special Summoning limited to twice per turn, added into the rulebook, just to stem the flood of OTKs as well.
twice per turn is too little. hell, even my fun decks from 10 years ago special summon more than twice. make it a limit on, lets say, 5.
@@Dr.AvenVon Either way, Banning Summon Limit is NOT the answer.
holy shit, I DID NOT know they adapted the rarities using OCG data... that should 100% be stopped, ultra yikes.
Also it might just be me but it sucks being a casual player and not wanting to have to sink a bunch of time understanding a complex combo deck. Cuz then your only other options are these sacky floodgate archetypes that aren’t fun at all after awhile.
I was looking for a reason to retire from competitive. Firewall FTK and Tear almost gave me a reason. But a $1000+ tier 0 deck is the straw that broke the camels back for me. I've retreated to goat and edison now lmao.
they shoulda left tear off the banlist and long enough to exist with fireking/snake eyes. it's unreal to me that they banned it only to replace it so fucking soon. at least let people experiment with the cards they paid so much for.
Kinda sad that a card needs to have three specific effects to be good in Yu-Gi-Oh!
At least in MtG, a card can have any whatever effect they want and not risk being glossed over. Like Halo Fountain, the Skullspore Nexus, and Surge Engine.
This has been very informative, My buddies and I talk about this stuff all the time and feel like conspiracy theorists for treating Konami like some evil shadow government that only has the worst intentions for us.
The ending really hit hard. Konami is going to have to change their yugioh practices soon. My OTS shops have so much product just sitting there...I hate to think of the money being sunk. I'm pretty much done buying packs aside from occasionally for fun since the value is never there.
I'm sorry to say but Konami operates Yugioh like a predatory mobile game because they can get away with it. It's that simple. I remember hearing one player quitting because of prices while also saying "there's nothing else like Yugioh". Exactly. That is literally why Konami gets away with rarity bumps and not listening to the fans. They know you're hooked on this game. If the customer keeps coming back, why bother making the product better? Also, I disagree about cash prizes. I think it'd be amazing for the game. Cash prizes are the life blood is any serious competition. Nothing wrong with making a decent income from your favorite hobby. Look at Flesh And Blood's push for their game.
4:04 Oh my god I would like Yu Gi Oh a lot more if each effect on the card was color coded and not one whole essay.
I think a ban list like what Speed Duels uses would greatly benefit the game. Basically a limit two will say from this list, you can only use two of these cards, not simply two copies of the same card. This format really differentiates decks and forces players to give up using certain powerful cards in exchange for using other powerful cards.
When the game is this absurd what's even the point of playing?
Yugioh in 2034:
"Alright, good luck"
"Aight, I've got lethal. Any anti-antihandtrap for my antihandtrap-handtrap?"
"Nope, good game"
"Good game"
🤝
I like the love for proxy in the comments. Your local card shop won't go under because you don't want to be priced out of the game, you can still support small bussinesses in a myriad of ways.
Honestly as a rogue deck enjoyer (Mekk-Knights) the current format of Yu-Gi-Oh has become unplayable for older decks. I could decently compete with tier 1 meta decks with skill and preparation up till recent formats but now, even a idiot with these newer deck who has no clue what's happening can beat you through sheer bullshit. It's rendered all older decks unplayable.
Holy shit the part at the end about card prices in the OCG vs. TCG is just shocking. I already hated Konami for how they handled their rhythm games (suing ITG out of existence then immediately abandoning DDR in the NA market for a decade), but seeing how they intentionally drive up the cost of cards in the TCG by 10x compared to the OCG really drives home how greedy and soulless Konami is. Makes me damn glad I got into Pokemon instead of YGO (but don't get me started on the main line games, Game Freak and Nintendo are also awful!)
Power creep only got so bad because of meta players.
People that only play to win, not to have fun.
They buy every deck thats now meta, instead of playing a deck they like.
My reaction when it just so turns out that my favorite deck is snake-eyes!
In mtg the community freaks out and cries powercreep once a 3 mana draw two cards sorcery gets printed as a instant.
Sometimes its really baffling how insane the powercreep in yugioh is.
Max C still causing problems even though its banned because its alive somewhere and Konami HAS to make cards that can beat it lol
i think the WORST new "feature" in Yugioh is the ability to special summon your entire combo during your opponents turn.
it has and it will drive people away from the game, it seems like almost every single deck in the last year has had this feature. "oh you somehow beat my omni negate ? ok ... here is 5 more i just summoned"
Even older archetypes are getting this capabilities. HEROES can now do a Calamity Lock at Home play because of Favorite Contact bringing out Elemental Hero Cosmo Neos during the opponents Draw Phase.
@@RazielTheUnbornif you got hit by it im sorry man, but dont worry you were just unlucky on this one.
Playing Hero, i can tell you that Summon Cosmo is so hard, and require a so precise combo without any interruption, with a good starting hand, that most of time you just cant summon it.
But yeah if Konami make him easier to summon many people will seriously hate Hero with this "You dont play" monster.
@@annemarieangue6727 bruh it has happened to me three times now lol...
@@RazielTheUnborn Damn man you're unlucky as fuck!!!
Im sorry Cosmo is not fun to play against
I mean it kind of had to turn out this way didn't it (the combo part not the omni negate part). Loading effects onto monsters is nice since they're the only way to actually advance the gamestate, and there's only so much you can do with only spells and traps without running into the same problems. Only way to "fix" it IMO is to add an actual resource mechanic, which is nice but then it's not yugioh anymore
I'll admit I only really like the game for the spectacle. The artstyle is all over the place but also means there's an archtype for everyone. But when you're splashing in generic cards from kaijus, zombie fairies and mechs because they genuinely work in any deck and are useful to counter a number of meta strategies, I think they need to refocus some of the design. It's kind of amazing handtrap is just a term used by the players while it's not printed on the cards and actual traps are so slow they're almost considered not worth using. Some basic rules across the game like certain spells can't be used multiple times in the same turn or monsters cannot search a copy of themselves would at least save room if not make a basic standard that is used to put a cap on any strategy. I guess if people still buy into the game and burn all the useless normals acting as pack filler then Konami has no reason to change but it also makes the game harder to introduce to new players who have to read all the text on their cards and keep a list of how their combo works. Going back to 1-2 lines of rule text probably isn't happening but just solidifying ground rules across the game and making a clear line which archtypes are meant to be their own thing and which are support for anyone who wants to use them.
Back to Kaijus fitting into a more cutsey style just cause it's convenient to destroy one of your opponent's monsters from hand, give Gameciel a more chibi reprint so he's not so out of place when he does get splashed into something else. Go ahead and reprint it, count on players having it or other similar cards that get around untargetable bosses or have a reaction to 2000+ on an enemy. I like the idea of just embracing how the game develops and building around that rather than constantly trying to fit the next powerful strategy onto a xyz card that already has to give up space to not being special summoned and what it does if one of it's materials is "Phelddagrif the Last Flying Hippo of Zanzadoo"
sorry if it comes off as irreverent to the cardgame, I'm only frustrated with how it gets developed and all the reasons in the video why it remains expensive
Honestly thank you for your insight. I decided the other day to give Yugioh a try again as I never had anyone to play with as a child due to living in very rural Australia at the time. Now that I live in a city, I went to 2 TCG stores and asked where I should start as a new player.
They recommended that I avoid structure decks and starter decks as they really don’t have any ‘staple’ cards that are useful in building an effective deck.
Man this should be a wake up call for Konami, their introductory products don’t even prepare a new player the play the game at all BASE LEVEL. Ok so I asked “How much will it cost me to buy a decent set of staple cards for a couple of decks?” The answer, $100+. Seriously!? That isn’t even taking into account all of the other deck specific cards. He said that he is a long time Yugioh player but he can’t recommend ANY new players to try this game and instead suggested I play One Piece TCG as the prices are far more reasonable and their starter decks actually give players a fighting chance.
Im looking forward to trying out One Piece next week.
Oh my god you're so right, the Dragon Rulers were literally ground zero for modern cards' design. There's also the creeping removal of drawbacks from monsters, XYZ boss cards used to stop themselves from attacking if their effects were used, giving Synchros an upside in that regard for being harder to summon.
incredibly well made video
I really like your content and will thumbs up and comment everywhere I can!!!
small criticism: the contrast between blue and purple in your yugioh era graphic is really hard to differentiate between, at least for me. but still great video!
dude what is it with modern games just pumping out some of the worst content. From tcg's to triple a games. What is going on anymore?
Not trying to get political, but the goal isn't to make money, it's to make MORE money
the R&D team has been off their rockers since the beginning. Feels like they do no testing themselves, go "oh crap that was a lot, lets make a going second/handtrap to stop that". Than they go "oh crap now they need to be able to play around that" its such a short sighted vicious loop by konami. Theyve never shown that they cared about the players imo
The no specific restrictions and requirements are the time bomb for YGO itself. Because there is no restriction, some cards will be very expensive because everyone wants that strong card in their deck, because every new deck can easily summon that card. Also, I cannot really see it as a "skill" when the card can do everything by itself and without downside. I believe the "skill" of players is when we can manage the resources, requirements, or downside of the deck itself.
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At least Unchained has Fiend Lock, I think at minimum Konami should make the lock based on the type of cards. Other card games have a "cost" for using a card to make the card more balanced. Cost cannot really work in YGO. But, the lock or restriction can do a better job of making a deck more balanced.
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Or at least please make a "low tier" format where the legal cards are the bad ones, in MD and/or paper. I watch Farfa's Last Card, and this is hundreds of times more interesting to watch those bad decks than the same long combo and mirror in a modern tournament.
It's so odd to me that people say modern Yugioh is "faster" even though nothing feels slower than waiting several minutes for your opponent to finish his turn.
Classic Yugioh with more back and forth play feels way more fast paced to me.
Have you considered actually running interaction or fast decks that have plays on both turns?
@@MonkeyFightTCGInteraction just makes my opponent play for longer I find.
My goal is to Maximize The Number Of End Phases.
THAT is what registers as "fast".
It's faster in the amount of cards played per turn (much higher) and in the number of turns per duel (much lower). Duels used to last dozens of turns, with each turn having one, maybe two summons depending on the deck and then at most two or three spells or traps, and boards either built up gradually or didn't really build at all due to back-and-forth disruption and removal plays. Now you're looking at end-game boards on turn 1 and you're not even guaranteed to be able to play going second.
Let's be honest, this is Konami we're talking about.
Y'know, "Metal Gear Solid 3 Pachinko Machine" Konami.
I REALLY wish YuGiOh/Konami would’ve hit the brakes right around 2014. There’s just a certain level of complexity where things become not fun, but stressful. lol
Not entirely relevant to the video but I played more yugioh during MD's recent 2004-banlist five day format than I have in the last three months.
I've tried and failed a dozen times to get back into the game after I left in 2019 (peak of a build a board format and I had had enough). I'm so tired of the text bloat on modern cards.
Interaction may be higher than ever but the decisions you make mean less than ever before.
10:51 that is literally insane. When you put them together like that it is absolutely disgusting. How tf can cards be that damn expensive?! Thank god I’m not into competitive yugioh. I only play casually and I never spend money on cards north of $30. I just think that’s disgusting and it’s not worth it. I feel bad for the competitive players that HAVE to buy these cards to stay relevant. Smh
I’ll be honest. I play speed duel with my friends and for anything competitive I look else where. Master Duel/TCG is so complicated and expensive. This is a game for rich people/youtubers 😂