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This never happened before.
I was shocked to see her eating herself.
At first when she missed the rat and got her tail, I was ok because that can happen.. but then she let go, grabbed the rat, and ate herself again on purpose. WHAT??
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(Black Headed Cat Snake)
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A good way to get them to release as well is putting something that tastes bad around their mouth, I think I've seen people use rubbing alcohol or vinegar.
Yesss exactly
yep plz do that next time because it is safer that way then what u did
hand saaaaaaaniiiiitiiiiiizeeeeeer.
Yup that's right
@@ShadowGaming42069 was about to say that !
she might need some enrichment in her enclosure, some place to hide like some leaves around her branch and more places for her to climb. even if this is not the reason she was eating herself she will like having things to explore in her enclosure
I totally agree 👍🏻
yup, more enrichments usually mean that they "find" their tail much less often
@@jankoset7766 not only! They feel more secure and show exploratory behavior. Even if snakes are dumb as hell they need at least a semi-naturalistic environment
There are a few reasons* why snakes do that. *it's not 100% known, but these are theories and hypotesis by vets
Stress, temperature regulation issues, hypermetabolism, hunger, shedding, constrictive habitat, illness or confusion.
Often when a snake thinks it has gotten another snake that it can eat, aka their own tail, they don't realize that it is themselves.
I mean, some snakes do this, it's not as uncommon as some people think, although it is still considered rare and most likely to happen to pet snakes. The ourobouros thing is known for a reason 😅
But I do get that it is distressing to see for the first time.
I saw some people mention this in the comments, and strong "not tasty" things like vinegar can help. Like take that vinegar/water mix on a piece of cotton and gently dab her tail with it, it shouldn't dehydrate her skin, and should work as a deterant.
As for a larger enclosure, I think that maybe, while large, she found it to be "too open", you know? Like maybe not enough hiding spaces, and all that. I remember my friend who had a snake, that enclosure was like a miniature jungle. While predators, they are still prey animals for like birds and stuff. So a lot of open spaces could be stressful.
EL: What were you thinking, girl???
Snake: 👁(no thoughts) 👄 (head empty) 👁
👁👅👁
I heard years ago that snakes eating themselves can be a problem with overheating (I think it causes confusion) - perhaps check temp in her enclosure, both the warm and cool sections (snakes should have a gradient), compared to recommended ranges for the species.
Regarding her enclosure size, perhaps try a larger one with a small hide. You wont be able to see her all the time but a large enclosure will make it easier to have a temperature gradient.
I never thought the ouroboros could be real. Jokes aside, I'm sooo glad she's doing okay now!! My idea is when she struck the rat and missed and got her tail instead she continued to mistake it for food and it somehow still smelled like it. I'm super glad she's fine now!! I hope it doesn't happen again.
He said that she is confused.
@@jadielsunbelievablegaming5080 that’s basically what they just said in the comment lol
She needs a high box. That’s why she’s stressed because she doesn’t have anybody anywhere to hide and once you do that then it’ll give her multiple places to hide so she’ll be feeling safe.
She needs a larger enclosure with a place to hide so she wont feel stressed. Plus more enrichment to hide behind and shed against and stuff.
more stuff to climb on as well as she is an arboreal species
There also nocturnal which having her out in the hall in broad day, no hiding places small enclosure no enrichment or anything is cruel. She is definitely stressed out.
He says she was stressed in a larger enclosure (like all his snakes are supposedly) but non of his snakes have any enrichment or hides to there names so they feel exposed constantly which courses stress.
He needs to rethink his snakes enclosures and do research before something happens.
He probably won't listen because it's been brought up before with his ball pythons and nothing has changed.
@@angelusgaston5922 that's why I don't watch him much anymore. He loves animals but doesn't listen to anyone about the proper care they need. He's animal hoarder that is very half-assed with his research.
@@ILOVEMARILYNMANSON89 why should he listen to people who don't listen to him? Looooool
@@AlexandralessthanIII People love to respond the second they see something in the clip "OMG WRONG" but dont even watch the bit after (about the enclosure).
woah, my anxiety levels were peaking too. I love this channel. I learn something new everyday. Love and peace everyone. You too Snake
Same I love how much love he has for his pets
@@happyclown4331 Im actually scared if spiders, but, he got me hooked too, and find it facinating. Now i have a pet Jumping Spider called Octavia, lol im starting small.......
yep
Love? Bro some guy said its because its enclosure doesnt have a hide for the snake and it gets stressed because of that!
@@69TheOneWhoAsked that is the problem.the snake doesnt have a hide or anything to hide itself under.thats why its so stressed and trying to eat itself
If this happens again try using hand sanitizer apparently snakes hate the taste of it EDIT Jesus I didn't mean to start a comment war y'all need to chill lol
hahaha just about to say that too
Same here
Guys, thumb up this comment so he can see
same, i was going to say that lol
I said this in the short.
They hate the taste of the sanitizer.
She keeps eating herself due to low calcium and nutrients. Sounds like she needs a hide and is stressed. All the moving back and forth between enclosures does a number on them. If you did not wash the slime off her body then there is still sent of the rat on her, she is likely still hungry, she senses the rat still in her enclosure due to the slime. Wash her off get her a large hide and leave her alone.
More enrichment in her enclosure with multiple hides will help reduce anxiety (if that's her issue).
Bro, that was insane. I'm glad you were able to help her.
yeah
You say she is not stressed yet that is a clear sign of stress.
The reason she is stressed in a large enclosure is because she has NO COVER. She needs hides, she needs branches, she needs plants, more places for her to feel comfortable and hidden.
Ive said this before about all of your snakes set ups, none of them have any form of enrichment, snakes get stressed when they are dumped in to a large empty tank if you set them up correctly you will find out that there not stressed at all.
Those snake enclosures just seem like shear lazyness to me and someone who can't be bothered to do research on how to set up properly.
Snakes eat themselves due to stress, temperature regulation issues, hypermetabolism, hunger, shedding, constrictive habitat, illness, or confusion.
Three of those are clear with your snakes set up and she looks to be on the thin side as well.
If I was you I would stick to the T's your clearly not sure how to look after snakes and don't seem to want to learn.
Bro thank you for speaking up! These conditions are dogshit despite whatever reasoning he gives
Thank you so muchh ❤❤❤ pleaseee speak up !!! Like this comment so he will (HOPEFULLY) see it !!!!
Hopefully this won't go unnoticed. I've seen a few comments say he's mostly ignoring these, since nothing has changed for a long time
It’s a bit harsh on the last part. He just needs some guidance like everyone that starts off with a new pet. You can’t blame him, he’s trying. Harshness isn’t the way to go, helping them out is. He seems happy with snakes too, not just T’s, and he doesn’t have to JUST stick with T’s. It’s just a bit harsh how u worded it
@@Lucifer-Luci-100
We've tried to help him when he first showed Pissed enclosure.
We've tried to help him with his Ball Pythons.
We've tried to help him with his 2nd clutch of ball pythons when he said he knew nothing about breeding and morphs when we said he could have been breeding leathal morphs.
We have tried pointing him towards people who could help him but he doesn't care.
I would have been less harsh if I hadn't tried helping and giving advice in the past but when I see things that could have been changed months ago to provent this I loose my niceness.
THE ENCLOSURE IS TOO SMALL FOR HER. She needs a larger, vertical enclosure and a lot of places to hide. You said it yourself, she's arborial. Treat her like your arborial tarantulas and do the same thing, giving her a hide (read: burrow) and some other enrichment. She's bored as hell which is why she keeps eating herself.
So he's just supposed to starve her cause he said it himself he has put her in a bigger enclosure and she refused to eat
@@steph_2008 In addition to space a snake needs hiding places to feel safe.
@@steph_2008 some people move their snakes to a smaller space for eating
@@crashez35 yes but he said that she wouldn't move and was just really stressed all the time so this enclosure is best for her
@@steph_2008 like how @Louan Merminod said a snake needs space and hiding places to feel safe.
and the original comment also said to give her hiding places and a burrow. If the snake has a burrow and has places to cover itself it'll feel less stressed. It's kind of like having a small enclosure, except it's not and they still have places to hide. he said that whenever he put her in a big enclosure she stressed out, wouldn't eat and stayed in one corner? It's because she feels exposed so he needs to add hiding places and burrows.she can have a big enclosure as long as she has hides and things like small bushes or leaves to feel secure.
Maybe you should try to give her a better enclosure ( not a plastic bin ) something more suitable for arboreal snake with some branches she can climb on and some hiding place.
He won't listen we have told him a number of times they need more enrichment everyone of his snakes encloses are like that including pisses old enclosure.
@@angelusgaston5922 it’s so sad 😢
@@brsoosoo ik 😢
if it keeps happening you should contact new england reptiles they are incredible with solving medical issues with reptiles especially snakes. and since you are also a youtuber im sure Kevin will be more than happy to give you advice.
You could give her a bigger enclosure with more hides and enrichment.
@Madmads007 The video shows his complete lack of research towards snakes. This is a ridiculous "enclosure" for a snake of this species and size. The reason why she has not eaten in bigger tubs is because Exotics Lair never gives his snakes hides or enrichment to make them feel calm in their homes. Just look at any other of his snakes.
@Snake Discorvery channel on youtube!
@Madmads007 I actually did watch the whole video. I know he said she wouldn’t eat in a bigger tub but when talking about snakes hides and enrichment make all the difference
That enclosure is soooo bare! Snakes need to have their own "home" aka a place to hide. You need branches and more plants for her in general she will feel there's no place for her to go when there's nothing there to hide no matter how big or small your enclosure is!
I would feel stressed to if I was a snake that had no hide or plants or anything to hide under
Wow. You really DO have an exotic lair. Didn't think I'd ever actually see a real life Uroboros.
With a snake this big/long i would definitely recommend a bigger enclosure. I know you said she didn't eat, but she may have felt too exposed, wich won't happen with enough enrichment, hides, caves, plants etcetera. In the wild snakes usually find hiding spots. Please try that to prevent this in the future. She really needs more space and hiding spots
She looks thin, you should probably feed her more. And when you do maybe do it in a separate container so she doesn't mistake other things (like herself) for food. She'll learn that that box is for food. Also, maybe should second think keeping reptiles if you don't have a vet to go to when they aren't doing well.
he owns loads of reptiles. the snake is thin because thats how the snake is. shes stressed she doesnt have enough places to hide and the encloser is too big without any hiding places
That's how it's supposed to look.
So you left her without a water dish for 14 hours?
I think they way you are keeping her is incorrect, as others are saying she has no hides or anything, that's the thing with reptiles things can be wrong for a long time and they can be ok for years in the wrong set up etc and then boom they do something like try to eat themself. You need to change up how you are keeping her.
Don't think it's confusion. Probably temperature or habitat. Since these snakes love trees, you should put more sticks/small branches so she has more to climb on.
This is called the oroboros effect. something about the snake mentally makes it find itself tasty which is uncommon but not entirely unheard of. But it can be scary. I would advise seeing a vet as soon as possible to see about solutions.
Okay, you need to put some hand sanitizer on her nose to get her to spit herself out if she ever does it again or any of your other snakes. A lot of people had helpful advice, so the hand sanitizer is the best way or a good pair of gloves and carefully pry her mouth open and slowly pull her out of herself.
Ooohhhhh~
Don’t Stop.
I agree, maybe in a dire need because it is poisonous by design so I would go for vinegar or an alcoholic drink of some kind before the rubbing alcohol.
@Notme If the alternative is death, I think a little hand sanitizer is worth the risk.
Bro READ YOUR COMMENTS OMG people in the shorts comments yesterday were tell you many ways to get her to release grip on herself , one way someone Said was using hand sanitizer!!!
as others have suggested, using something that tastes bad may get snakes to spit something out. I have a small spirtz bottle of vodka close by just in case (though my baby is a hoggie 😂), but you can use vinegar, mouthwash or vinager. another thing I've seen work on bites is sliding a credit card into their mouths to gently pry it open - guess you'd then need a second pair of hands to gently get the snake outta her own mouth.
glad you got her out! ofc best thing you can do its keep an eye on her to make sure she hasn't done any damage to herself/keep an eye out for infections etc!
The most efficient method that people suggest is using hand santizer
13:19 her shocked expression is adorable
No hiding place?
Constant heat everywhere?
and you wonder why the snake is stressed.
Snakes have no problem whit large spaces if the have one or more places to hide in.
One good thump rule is to have one cold cave and one varm.
Try it and see if the snake likes it.
He doesn't listen everyone of his snakes encloses are like this even pisses was like this.
A lot of us have told him a number of times they need more space and enrichment.
@@angelusgaston5922 Aaaah man.....
This is why you keep food grade alcohol around. High proof vodka is what I use with my retics, works if they bite you or themselves
This makes me sad. I know a lot of people are already commenting about this. She is VERY stressed. There is lots of good advice in here
Enrichment your enclosure is so bad a plastic tub is alwful one climbing rod .
It's been brought up before and nothing has changed at all.
Ive said a number of times they need more enrichment and hides but he doesn't seem to care.
I agree with others, horrible enclosure for an arboreal species that long. Needs more height and climbing areas. Personally would have used olive oil, over an alcohol based hand sanitizer. Also would have offered her another mouse/rat. They do get full
*taps snake with spoon*
"can you not? " 😂😂😂😂😂😂🧡
What a crazy video. This was so unique. The empathetic noises he made when the snake was releasing his own tail shows how much he loves these animals. Now if I could only get my dog to stop eating his own tail.
More enrichment, bigger enclosure. That snake is probably stressed, she finds her tail way too often so it’s very possible it will happen again.
A real life _Ouroboros_ - and I thought the recently discovered real life _Hoop-Snake_ was wild. Appearently mythical/legendary snakes are becoming reality right now - can't wait for _Jörmungandr_ to show up..
She needs a hide box
the snakes need better conditions, they might seem fine for awhile but their mental stress compounds until something like the ouroboros cycle happens.
Some one said hand sanitizer or vinegar will make her let go! I would say you need to give the snake a better habitat, the snake needs more enrichment,😊 she looks very thin also.
So that's how Ouroboros came to be..
I just gonna say that before 😂😂😂
I think maybe you should stick with spiders
You seem to have it sorted now but. She’s treating the enclosure as a hide. Put a smaller version of that box in an actual 2-3foot tank with some climbing apparatus lol. That’s a juvenile size set up. Great it’s worked.
You can see how much she’s exploring very happily on the tops of the boxes with her tongue. Wants to go climb, pent up energy
There’s a reason why she’s eating herself. it may be due to stress, temperature regulation issues, hyper metabolism, hunger, shedding, constrictive habitat, illness, or confusion.
I know it was very stressful but hearing you say “girl, what are you doing” got me
Wow!! She had more inside her than I thought! she was going to town… thank goodness she is ok now… your a good snake dad ❤
He is a horrible snake that he doesn’t take care of any of his reptiles. The way he should he doesn’t have a hide boxes doesn’t have any in Richmond and any of his animal enclosures. That’s why they’re so stressed out and getting sick and dying. because they don’t feel comfortable or safe they just have like bare minimum things in their enclosures
Eating them selves is a sign of stress or confusion
I have a corn snake and a everglades rat snake, never had that happen. It would probably freak me out as well. I'd try offering her 2 rats instead of 1 and hope that puts an end to it....also you said you tried a larger enclosure but she was stressed and just stayed in a corner.....was there a hide in that enclosure? Maybe try a larger enclosure again but with a hide or 2 for her and see if she still stresses out. Anyways hope it doesn't happen again 😀
Probably because you do things right. Snakes trying to eat themselves is a very bad sign. Could be something wrong with the habitat. Too small, not the correct heat, or the snake could be ill or under a lot of stress.
So if she ate herself, will she double in size or disappear?
im dying XD
No she'll become a mini blackhole swallowing anything it touches.
I'm curious too lol. I have a few snakes myself and I never had that happen..
Um lol she will split her self in half
She'd rupture out of herself probably, cause it's physically impossible for her to actually eat herself (you know this you're not stupid) but like I'm just pointing out the obvious
She's beautiful, I'm glad you managed to free her, bless her ❤
I'm happy you were able to save her, she's a beautiful snake❤
She needs softer substrate they like fluffy so they can hide under it she might not be feeling good cuz of the rough substrate
It usually means she is in stress or suuuuuuuuuuuuuper hungry and had no choice
When my ball python did that I had to grab him behind his head to almost make him panic so he regurgitated himself and then I had to watch him very carefully when feeling him. It was also food confusion for him. He did it 2x till he stopped doing it. It's scary 😨
Perhaps stick to T's in future. Snakes don't seem to be your forte.
I've got a question for everyone criticizing the enclosure:
I only own 2 Ball Pythons and each one is in a big decorated naturalistic tank. So not much experience, but I agree with y'all. However, I see snakes kept in flat Rubbermaid boxes all the when people are "collecting" or breeding them and they say that they're more comfortable in dark confined spaced and really only active when hungry. Then I think my Pythons hardly utilize half the space and hides and vines I provide... so I'm pretty torn as to what's "necessary". Btw, I do feed mine thawed, in the enclosure. Have regular bulb 12on/12off and heat 24/7 on one side. Those tubs don't have that either usually, do they? How can those "collecter" snakes not be stressed?!
A rub with substrate, hide, enrichment and stuff can still work I will point you towards Snake Discovery they use racks and they set there's up so it's still ideal for the snake.
You NEED hides man she is super stressed out and it can cause them to eat themselves as seen here. It’s because they are constantly afraid and they mistake her own tail for a predator and or prey and tries to eat it. Pour rubbing alcohol or gently brush rubbing alcohol over her mouth and she’ll let go then rinse it out after
It's a sign of stress or the environment is off. Somth8ng is wrong if it's doing this.
We in the reptile community never said snakes were smart. Snakes are in fact dumb. Id reccomend frozen thawed rats and tong feeding her so she doesn't miss.
That was so weird, I'm glad she's okay now.
she looks happy
I’ve always seen keepers use mouth wash, a little listerine and she will let go. This works if you get bit as well
Imo the enclosure was too small, if while going around she has her tail in front of her head, it can happen.
PLEASE LISTEN TO THESE PEOPLE EXOTIC LAIR!
She is gorgeous! But yes, I agree with some of the other comments. She needs something other than a pipe and substrate. I would put some sort of hiding area in a corner, like a piece of wood or a small container. Just something that she can explore and interact with.
She definitely needs a hide!! 🙏🏻♥️ hope she stops
I know others are saying hand sanitizer but DO NOT DO THAT. Find a better alternative then using chemicals that could harm them. RUBBING ALCOHOL IS EXTREMELY POSIONOUSE!
YOUR SNAKE HAS EYE CAPS AROUND EDGES GET IT OFF
I don't know very much about snakes - I have never owned one, I don't have any experience with them, so I could be totally wrong with what I'm about to say - She looks a little thin. I don't know what type of snake she is or if that's just normal for that type of snake, but all along her back she''s very sharp looking. Does she maybe need a bigger meal or a different type of prey item?
That was a bit freaky and stressful. I'm glad that you were able to get her to regurgitate herself. Love your videos Peace and love to you and your family ❤️🩹❤️🩹❤️🩹❤️🩹
They may have thought that they were being attacked by another snake, in which case it would be a race to see who can eat who first.
Ayy man I love your videos and I hope that you are good keep up the great content
hii! this may be the problem on why your snake is eating herself/himself: Once they begin to feed, they may not even realize that they are consuming themselves. The behavior is rare, but it does happen. Snakes eat themselves due to stress, temperature regulation issues, hypermetabolism, hunger, shedding, constrictive habitat, illness, or confusion.
edit: also try seeking a vet if it continues.
I'd check your husbandry again incase anything has changed. I find it hard to believe that an arboreal species like this is happy in that size of an enclosure. there's no hides or foliage and with her size she cant have a suitable gradient to properly thermoregulate
If you give her a higher enclosure but the same size, just more higher up walls and then give her a few different places to hide that will freshen up her place.
So glad you managed to save her both times si really hope she is OK bless her ❤
EL after she released her tail: What were you THINKING?!?
Snake: 👁👄👁
😂😂😂😂😂
Every time I convince people animals are all highly intelligent..... we get a derpy one that does something like this.....
This usually happens when a snake gets to hot, they become confused and mistake their tail as prey, so they eat themselves. I recommend putting hand sanitizer around the mouth of the snake, that should free it.
That was stressful, can't imagine how you felt. Glad your method worked
Dude I'm just going to say it. You have way too many pets. Please stop getting new animals and just focus on the ones you already have.
A lot of your pet encloses are way too bare. They need hides and enrichment
When snakes do this it means that they are under extreme stress and have an extreme urge to hunt for food.
🤔Starting to wonder if Pissy was doing that too before it died. I don't know maybe it regurgitated too late.
You can try to spray cool water on it or reduce the heat in captivity. Thing is the snake may be confused, stressed, illness, constrictive habitat etc. You should also seek for a VET to take care of the snake if this is happening
Not sure if you will still read this. But alcoholgel. Smear a bit on the lips and they will litteraly spit out anything they are eating or have a hold on. I have a little, well a one year old by now, corn snake who loves eating me every single time. She litteraly starts eating me every single time sees me. Doesn't strangle.... just eat.... Alcoholgel on the lips and she instantely lets go.
Snakes eat themselves due to stress, temperature regulation issues, hypermetabolism, hunger, shedding, constrictive habitat, illness, or confusion. This behavior is most likely to happen in captivity.
Snake probably thinkin mmmm I taste delicious
Sssssnake! Tea! 🐍☕️ silly girl, glad you were able to stop the madness!
Also I hate to be THAT person, but if there are no reptile vets where you are maybe keeping reptiles is not the best idea in the world? Are you seriously ok with something going wrong and your animals suffering when you can't get vet care?
Then don't be that person 🙄
Unbelievable how much of that tail she swallowed. She should have been washed down the first time she regurgitated her tail. She probably had stomach acid all over her tail and needed to be washed off. Should have given her another feeding, must have been hungry
Bless, it just wasn’t her turn for the brain cell.
On a serious note though, I get the smaller than recommended enclosure…2 of my 9 snakes will only eat if kept in smaller enclosures, anything bigger & they’re off food no matter how much clutter they have to hide in. But, if you didn’t remove any hides to feed, then she needs one or two in there & more to climb on. Maybe try her with a sky hide if she’s not on the ground much.
Snake needs a hide box
Me: Dude, GET THE TOUNGS!!!!!!!!!
Snake: releases herself
Me: ...bruh
I can feel the snake's confusion and pain I feel so sorry for her :(
So cool how you understood what to do!
She became ouroboros
You are completely neglecting this snake’s needs. She needs enrichment and a bigger enclosure. This is a clear sign of stress. The “enclosure,” if you can even call it that, is so sad looking. It’s completely empty. She has nowhere to hide.
Did u watch the video and listen to what he said?
Bruh he literally said why he housed her there. You probably watched like 1/3 of the video and then wrote this comment and clicked off.
He explained why he keeps her in that enclosure if you actually listened to him
Lower her enclosure temperature she’s disoriented it’s called autocanibalism the heat messed up her mind
the smaller enclosure is ok for now. they like to feel safe in smaller places but she definitely needs a hide box. some different substrate, leaf litter, etc. you give your t's everything they need but your snake husbandry is a little shabby. I love your videos but just trying to help.