I can honestly agree with most of the placements on this list. Merlina being number 1 is a surprise, but the argument does have merits to it. Great video!
The Biolizard is easily my favorite entity from the series because of how sad its story is. It started off as a regular lizard that was captured and experimented on until it grew so large that it could no longer use its limbs to move. Then, It had to be hooked up to a heavy life support system keeping it alive most likely against its own will. THEN, it had its memories tampered with, turning it into a mindless killing machine. TTHHEEENNN, lost its life support system while getting beat up by 2 godlike beings IN SPACE until it blew up and incinerated in the atmosphere. They did it so dirty and i’m so sympathetic towards it 😢
Tell me about it and one of the reasons why the game Shadow the Hedgehog is so hated is that they tried to paint him in a sympathic light by making it seem he knew Black Doom was going to try and take over the Earth one day and took measures to prevent that from happening even with G.U.N. deciding to honor him as a hero at the end. No no, this is still the same man that tried to DESTROY the Earth in the first place after his granddaughter was shot and killed and went insane because of it
To be fair the post credits scene of the original games does still give Sage a happy edning as her mind was backed up, most likely with her memories intact.
Even though iblis is a formidable opponent, you kind of throw peaple of when the title says true final boss, and iblis played a role in making the true final boss.
"I've almost died several times." I shouldn't laugh, but I am. XD When it comes to nightmare fuel, Perfect Dark Gaia is definitely #1 for me. All those eyes, and that giant one in its mouth? Terrifying! Your number 1 choice is interesting, but as I listened, I agree. The director of Frontiers said that the form The End took is different for each person, basically their own personification of death. I wonder what Sonic saw. (Probably the truck from City Escape). Great video, and thanks for sharing!
forgot how much I loved black knight, I really loved the style and story of the game and this video reminded me why, unleashed, frontiers, heroes and other games are also some of my other favourite finales, amazing video/ranking
I know infinte was not developed the most in forces. Even thought I think is one of the best villians but i think the motivations he has been hinted to have are pretty interesting since it talks about him having a squad that shadow wiped out. Which for all we know from that game could have been his family. I think if we got a flash back to him not being strong enought to protect his family it would have helped a little bit in knowing why his defeat from shadow was important to him. Either way he is still top sonic 3 villans in my heart.
If one of these villains were to return (although I doubt that), I think Dark Gaia might be the best choice because not only does it seem to have provided Eggman with exactly what he wanted at the time, but having returning bosses that aren’t the Death Egg Robot or Metal Sonic would be great. It might be controversial, but I just wanna see Eggman Land again as (as far as I remember) it was his most desired goal since the classic games and I doubt he would scrap one of his greatest dreams. While he doesn’t have to use Dark Gaia for this (as proven in Sonic Colours), I wanna see how Sonic may struggle this time with the knowledge that the temples are missing, so he might have to use angel island instead? I’m gonna stop now because I’m rambling (unless someone wants to hear more).
with me is such legendary final boss theme and also deep core from rush adventure is underrated af since that one really capture the intensity of a final boss theme.
MAN I CANT BELEIVE U GAVE MERLINA NUM 1 I WAS THINKING OF HER DURING EVERY BOSS U MENTIONED AND ONCE I HEARD HER NAME ON NUM 1 I SHOUTED BASED AF W list fr fr
Have you heard of the theory that sliver is shadow and amy's son, alot of people got the informantion from black knight but I never belived it as of late. manily becasue there color schemes don't match up to sliver. I think its more then likely that sliver is shadow and rouge's son. Mainly becasue sliver's quills don't really match up the others if he was a full hedgehog. Even amy who has notictablly shorter quills still looks disincent compered to sonic and shadow. Not to mention her white hair would match slivers. And this becomes noticeable when you pallet swap shadow and Rouge's colors. At least those are the connections I got from it.
Hm, nice and interesting List, I appreciate this Video, I am really looking forward to see what else is in store and how it will effect this Video. I wonder if we’ll ever get a Villain like Merlina again?
I REALLY appreciate that part when you said “Not everything has to be Green Hills this and Death Egg Robot that” because I’ll be honest I don’t like classic Sonic I’m sorry but I don’t.
This is very cool but some of these don’t seem like true final bosses. My interpretation is that it’s either the boss you fight in the true ending of a game or the final postgame boss. Still though this video is very well done.
0:45 Gladly Shadow, Knuckles, Dark Giya, Eraser Gyin, Metal Sonic, Chaos, The perfect lifeform, The sinister 6, Methpalis (i m challenging myself to remember the names), Solaris, King Arthur, The End, The Island Titans, Scourge, Time Eater, Zero, The Metal Virus, "Silver", and Chris Chan...
Cool list and nice to see Shadow and 2006 get some love, but I gotta ask what's up with Sonic in Black Knight. I've never played the game, so I'm totally clueless, but it sounds like Merlina just wants herself and her kingdom to live forever and Sonic just rains on her parade because he decided out of nowhere to be cynical and boss someone around. He only stops people when their actions hurt others and it sounds like Merlina was HELPING people and that her plans wouldn't impact the world outside her book, so it always sounded polar opposite of Sonic to tell her what to do (which, in this case, is die). Am I totally wrong about this and Merlina really was hurting people?
Basically, Merlina was using her new found powers to prevent the entire kingdom from dying forever in fear of what would happen on the near future. This was destroying everything and making things messy (so yeah, essentialy, Merlina was doing something bad there). However, if we don't take that into consideration, still Sonic in this game says that "He can't always be the good guy" and you can interpret that's the reason why he acts this way. He thinks something is wrong? Then he goes against it. But... I believe his philosophy here is, ultimately, right. In this game, he states that "they should focus on living life to the fullest on the time they have", and it's said by him also that "there's not any good in a world that goes on forever". So, in other words, he is against Merlina because she is artificially doing all of this just to make her world eternal out of fear. Going against nature and the cycle of life that, at the end, results on death. Which, even though is sad, is the conclusion that provides meaning to life as a whole.
@@greninjax2295 Thank you for explaining that. Although I hear the point the game is trying to make, this seems more appropriate for Shadow than Sonic. Sonic doesn't strike me as caring if someone's immortal if it doesn't hurt anyone else but Shadow tends to have a "bigger picture" kind of mindset and would probably see these kinds of things as Forbidden Fruit, if only to maintain order. Also can't buy the ever-rebel Sonic having a problem with defying fate and wishing everybody dead, since he spends all of his time defying tyrants, governments and gods and frequently refuses to seal dangerous enemies away or destroy robots who hate him when they're down on their knees. I also disagree with the game's message irrespective of Sonic, but that isn't germane to my original issues with what I've heard about the game.
@@seantaylor424 Sorry for the long message that you are about to read, I re-watched some of the game cutscenes to bring more accurate descriptions of what happens in-game, and I don't know if I would have been able to make everything make sense if I didn't write as much as I did xD The thing here is that by becoming inmortal Merlina's life would be pretty dull. Sonic would go against inmortality just for that fact alone. However, she is not only becoming inmortal herself... instead, she is going against the cycle of life as a whole, and she is going against the will of her own people as well because she wants all of them to live an eternal life too. And, what is even worse than that, what she did (connecting the real world to the Underworld and using that world's power just to achieve eternity) could have spread to the entire planet as well. She was, essentialy, making everyone and everything eternal, and she didn't ask anyone if they wanted that. Talking about the "ever-rebel Sonic" point, I understand what you mean but, I don't think it's as simple as that. Sonic has fought countless enemies that were going to kill everyone, and one could say that he has faced and rebeled against destiny a couple of times on the past... right? Well, I would argue that it isn't exactly like that. I mean, I personally don't know much about Sonic 06 because I haven't played it yet (so maybe in that case is different), but for the rest of the games, he really doesn't defy fate itself, he just goes against foes that feel like they have the authority to challenge the natural status of the world. Even in the classic games this was present somehow. Eggman was the personification of tecnology, and Sonic was the personification of nature. So, overall, I believe that's exactly what is happening here. Sonic will go against foes that feel like they have the power to destroy everything, but he wouldn't go against nature. He would be sad if his friends die, of course, but he would accept that as long as they die of a natural reason. So is the way of nature, and it's thanks to that fact that he knows that he has to cherish every single moment he has with those who are dear to him. Merlina on the other hand... chose to trap a memory of her beloved kingdom. She chose to go against the natural laws of the world and make everyone inmortal, connecting the real world to the Underworld because she was afraid. She ultimately, chose the dull, unfullfiling, and hurtful eternity for herself but not only to herself, to everyone and everything. In other words eternity doesn't sound so bad in paper, but for Sonic it would make everything pretty pointless at the end of the day, and it would be something unnatural. That's why he fights Merlina. And talking about your point of this message functioning better for Shadow than for Sonic... I don't know, I feel it works for both of them. It's just that Shadow tends to acts more serious while Sonic can get serious too and he also has thoughtful thoughts and a mature way of understanding life as a whole, but he is more of a chill dude in general. Or at least that's how I personally view both of them
Okay I retract from something I said. Sonic has defied fate. However, he hasn't fought against the natural laws of the universe that make the cycle of life exist on the first place. If he had done that already, he would be okay with Merlina's plan Instead, he loves life and the world as they already are, that's why he couldn't be okay with the plan of altering everything by using the dark forces of the Underworld just to achieve eternity, it wouldn't make sense to him
Plus Merlina’s world was one of order that was stagnant unchanging. I know game sonic isn’t the embodiment of chaos like he is in comics but it fits for sonic that type of world is wrong for him since sonic represents chaos. One of the aspects of chaos is freedom and change both things that sonic value deeply so he obviously go against Merlina’s world
Hold up is that controller on the end of your staff at the end of the video quite possibly I don’t know a certain Lego controller from certain Lego Ninjago sets?
wanna know what truly confuses me? where was sonic during the iblis fight? did sonic just not exist in it? but eggman did and he died with eliese so that means eggman could have taken over already.
@@jesuspernia8031 It is literally a worse boss fight in every way. It is smaller in scale, less threatening, not as memorable in design, has a poorly conveyed method of victory, & trees that block the gosh dang boss. Dark Gaia's fight has an intense aura, taking place in the Earth's core, surrounded by lava. He's putting the planet in immediate danger, rather than being a threat that will "eventually" destroy the world. He has an actual design rather than just being a purple moon strapped to a reskin of the first boss. The method of defeating Dark Gaia is made much clearer, allowing players to beat him through their skill & experience rather than dying & trying again because you don't know what the heck you're doing. Also yes the trees are a problem. Who in their right mind designs a boss with such a poor camera angle that puts useless objects in the way of the main focus? The whole fight is an insult to game design as a whole, & I'm baffled that people like it at all. The cinematics do nothing to make up for the sheer laziness, ignorance, tedium, & lame storytelling present in this boss. But I'm fair, & I will say the orchestrated version of "I'm Here" was phenomenal, & easily on par with the orchestral "Endless Possibilities" in terms of pure quality. However, being tied to such a bad boss definitely brings it down for me. Not saying you have to agree, but I won't stop, & I'm not overreacting. It's a crappy boss, not the worst ever, but definitely low on my list.
Dark Gaia isn't the coolest but is indeed terrifying. This boss fight sucks so much that I'm so glad I'll never play Sonic Unleashed again. Yes, I hate both versions of Sonic Unleashed.
I can honestly agree with most of the placements on this list. Merlina being number 1 is a surprise, but the argument does have merits to it. Great video!
This and pokemon super mystery dungion were the only games where a twist villian that genuinly caught me off guard
you mean meritna's
The Biolizard is easily my favorite entity from the series because of how sad its story is. It started off as a regular lizard that was captured and experimented on until it grew so large that it could no longer use its limbs to move. Then, It had to be hooked up to a heavy life support system keeping it alive most likely against its own will. THEN, it had its memories tampered with, turning it into a mindless killing machine. TTHHEEENNN, lost its life support system while getting beat up by 2 godlike beings IN SPACE until it blew up and incinerated in the atmosphere.
They did it so dirty and i’m so sympathetic towards it 😢
Tell me about it and one of the reasons why the game Shadow the Hedgehog is so hated is that they tried to paint him in a sympathic light by making it seem he knew Black Doom was going to try and take over the Earth one day and took measures to prevent that from happening even with G.U.N. deciding to honor him as a hero at the end.
No no, this is still the same man that tried to DESTROY the Earth in the first place after his granddaughter was shot and killed and went insane because of it
Huh. NGL some of what you said totally escaped me back then. The Robotnicks tampering with organic lifeforms is really in the family huh.
@@zeospark9715I didn't know about the hate towards this game NGL.
To be fair the post credits scene of the original games does still give Sage a happy edning as her mind was backed up, most likely with her memories intact.
Even though iblis is a formidable opponent, you kind of throw peaple of when the title says true final boss, and iblis played a role in making the true final boss.
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks Excalibur sonic is the coolest form of sonic
"I've almost died several times." I shouldn't laugh, but I am. XD
When it comes to nightmare fuel, Perfect Dark Gaia is definitely #1 for me. All those eyes, and that giant one in its mouth? Terrifying! Your number 1 choice is interesting, but as I listened, I agree. The director of Frontiers said that the form The End took is different for each person, basically their own personification of death. I wonder what Sonic saw. (Probably the truck from City Escape). Great video, and thanks for sharing!
No, the form Sonic sees is what we see. A dead planet. That is how Sonic sees death. Not just his own, but the entire planet’s
@@cyberlinkx5290 Not true. Sage sees death as an "it" while Sonic sees it as a "him".
I feel like "True Final Bosses" is a bit of a misnomer.
Dark Gaia is a total and literal Force of Nature. And just like Professor Pickle said Darkness is Part of World just the same as Light.
forgot how much I loved black knight, I really loved the style and story of the game and this video reminded me why, unleashed, frontiers, heroes and other games are also some of my other favourite finales, amazing video/ranking
I know infinte was not developed the most in forces. Even thought I think is one of the best villians but i think the motivations he has been hinted to have are pretty interesting since it talks about him having a squad that shadow wiped out. Which for all we know from that game could have been his family. I think if we got a flash back to him not being strong enought to protect his family it would have helped a little bit in knowing why his defeat from shadow was important to him. Either way he is still top sonic 3 villans in my heart.
The best bosses follow three themes:
Alien, wrathful God, humanity's experiment that went horribly wrong.
If one of these villains were to return (although I doubt that), I think Dark Gaia might be the best choice because not only does it seem to have provided Eggman with exactly what he wanted at the time, but having returning bosses that aren’t the Death Egg Robot or Metal Sonic would be great. It might be controversial, but I just wanna see Eggman Land again as (as far as I remember) it was his most desired goal since the classic games and I doubt he would scrap one of his greatest dreams. While he doesn’t have to use Dark Gaia for this (as proven in Sonic Colours), I wanna see how Sonic may struggle this time with the knowledge that the temples are missing, so he might have to use angel island instead? I’m gonna stop now because I’m rambling (unless someone wants to hear more).
The problem is that lore wise, dark Gaia won't return until like a couple million years or so, but he will eventually, he always does
@@philipposlyparakis3904 Eggman can find a way to change the lore if it benefits him… (it’s basically how Sonic Unleashed began)
with me is such legendary final boss theme and also deep core from rush adventure is underrated af since that one really capture the intensity of a final boss theme.
Sonic and the black knight was my favorite game❤️ those good old days😭
MAN I CANT BELEIVE U GAVE MERLINA NUM 1 I WAS THINKING OF HER DURING EVERY BOSS U MENTIONED AND ONCE I HEARD HER NAME ON NUM 1 I SHOUTED BASED AF W list fr fr
How could you betray Zavok like this
He better have betrayed Zavok like this.
Him: Name one Sonic Villain that's not Eggman.
Lego: Bowser?
Me: 🤦
Him: See you when the video is over.
Iblis doesn’t count unless you’re arguing as final boss of stories
Have you heard of the theory that sliver is shadow and amy's son, alot of people got the informantion from black knight but I never belived it as of late. manily becasue there color schemes don't match up to sliver. I think its more then likely that sliver is shadow and rouge's son. Mainly becasue sliver's quills don't really match up the others if he was a full hedgehog. Even amy who has notictablly shorter quills still looks disincent compered to sonic and shadow. Not to mention her white hair would match slivers. And this becomes noticeable when you pallet swap shadow and Rouge's colors. At least those are the connections I got from it.
Hm, nice and interesting List, I appreciate this Video, I am really looking forward to see what else is in store and how it will effect this Video.
I wonder if we’ll ever get a Villain like Merlina again?
Did you know the secret rings is cannon. Because sonic talks about it in generaions.
I REALLY appreciate that part when you said “Not everything has to be Green Hills this and Death Egg Robot that” because I’ll be honest I don’t like classic Sonic I’m sorry but I don’t.
12:58 crazy u added a fan made villain with the objective of a Buffy the vampire slayer villain
Amazing video.
13:34 Two words: With me!!!!!!!!!
This is very cool but some of these don’t seem like true final bosses. My interpretation is that it’s either the boss you fight in the true ending of a game or the final postgame boss. Still though this video is very well done.
0:45 Gladly
Shadow, Knuckles, Dark Giya, Eraser Gyin, Metal Sonic, Chaos, The perfect lifeform, The sinister 6, Methpalis (i m challenging myself to remember the names), Solaris, King Arthur, The End, The Island Titans, Scourge, Time Eater, Zero, The Metal Virus, "Silver", and Chris Chan...
Cool list and nice to see Shadow and 2006 get some love, but I gotta ask what's up with Sonic in Black Knight. I've never played the game, so I'm totally clueless, but it sounds like Merlina just wants herself and her kingdom to live forever and Sonic just rains on her parade because he decided out of nowhere to be cynical and boss someone around. He only stops people when their actions hurt others and it sounds like Merlina was HELPING people and that her plans wouldn't impact the world outside her book, so it always sounded polar opposite of Sonic to tell her what to do (which, in this case, is die). Am I totally wrong about this and Merlina really was hurting people?
Basically, Merlina was using her new found powers to prevent the entire kingdom from dying forever in fear of what would happen on the near future. This was destroying everything and making things messy (so yeah, essentialy, Merlina was doing something bad there).
However, if we don't take that into consideration, still Sonic in this game says that "He can't always be the good guy" and you can interpret that's the reason why he acts this way. He thinks something is wrong? Then he goes against it.
But... I believe his philosophy here is, ultimately, right. In this game, he states that "they should focus on living life to the fullest on the time they have", and it's said by him also that "there's not any good in a world that goes on forever".
So, in other words, he is against Merlina because she is artificially doing all of this just to make her world eternal out of fear. Going against nature and the cycle of life that, at the end, results on death. Which, even though is sad, is the conclusion that provides meaning to life as a whole.
@@greninjax2295 Thank you for explaining that. Although I hear the point the game is trying to make, this seems more appropriate for Shadow than Sonic. Sonic doesn't strike me as caring if someone's immortal if it doesn't hurt anyone else but Shadow tends to have a "bigger picture" kind of mindset and would probably see these kinds of things as Forbidden Fruit, if only to maintain order. Also can't buy the ever-rebel Sonic having a problem with defying fate and wishing everybody dead, since he spends all of his time defying tyrants, governments and gods and frequently refuses to seal dangerous enemies away or destroy robots who hate him when they're down on their knees. I also disagree with the game's message irrespective of Sonic, but that isn't germane to my original issues with what I've heard about the game.
@@seantaylor424 Sorry for the long message that you are about to read, I re-watched some of the game cutscenes to bring more accurate descriptions of what happens in-game, and I don't know if I would have been able to make everything make sense if I didn't write as much as I did xD
The thing here is that by becoming inmortal Merlina's life would be pretty dull. Sonic would go against inmortality just for that fact alone. However, she is not only becoming inmortal herself... instead, she is going against the cycle of life as a whole, and she is going against the will of her own people as well because she wants all of them to live an eternal life too. And, what is even worse than that, what she did (connecting the real world to the Underworld and using that world's power just to achieve eternity) could have spread to the entire planet as well. She was, essentialy, making everyone and everything eternal, and she didn't ask anyone if they wanted that.
Talking about the "ever-rebel Sonic" point, I understand what you mean but, I don't think it's as simple as that. Sonic has fought countless enemies that were going to kill everyone, and one could say that he has faced and rebeled against destiny a couple of times on the past... right? Well, I would argue that it isn't exactly like that. I mean, I personally don't know much about Sonic 06 because I haven't played it yet (so maybe in that case is different), but for the rest of the games, he really doesn't defy fate itself, he just goes against foes that feel like they have the authority to challenge the natural status of the world. Even in the classic games this was present somehow. Eggman was the personification of tecnology, and Sonic was the personification of nature.
So, overall, I believe that's exactly what is happening here. Sonic will go against foes that feel like they have the power to destroy everything, but he wouldn't go against nature. He would be sad if his friends die, of course, but he would accept that as long as they die of a natural reason. So is the way of nature, and it's thanks to that fact that he knows that he has to cherish every single moment he has with those who are dear to him. Merlina on the other hand... chose to trap a memory of her beloved kingdom. She chose to go against the natural laws of the world and make everyone inmortal, connecting the real world to the Underworld because she was afraid. She ultimately, chose the dull, unfullfiling, and hurtful eternity for herself but not only to herself, to everyone and everything.
In other words eternity doesn't sound so bad in paper, but for Sonic it would make everything pretty pointless at the end of the day, and it would be something unnatural. That's why he fights Merlina.
And talking about your point of this message functioning better for Shadow than for Sonic... I don't know, I feel it works for both of them. It's just that Shadow tends to acts more serious while Sonic can get serious too and he also has thoughtful thoughts and a mature way of understanding life as a whole, but he is more of a chill dude in general. Or at least that's how I personally view both of them
Okay I retract from something I said. Sonic has defied fate. However, he hasn't fought against the natural laws of the universe that make the cycle of life exist on the first place. If he had done that already, he would be okay with Merlina's plan
Instead, he loves life and the world as they already are, that's why he couldn't be okay with the plan of altering everything by using the dark forces of the Underworld just to achieve eternity, it wouldn't make sense to him
Plus Merlina’s world was one of order that was stagnant unchanging. I know game sonic isn’t the embodiment of chaos like he is in comics but it fits for sonic that type of world is wrong for him since sonic represents chaos. One of the aspects of chaos is freedom and change both things that sonic value deeply so he obviously go against Merlina’s world
The title doesn't quite make sense, since most of these bosses are guaranteed to be fought at the end of the game.
Im glad to run into another metal overload enjoyer
Hold up is that controller on the end of your staff at the end of the video quite possibly I don’t know a certain Lego controller from certain Lego Ninjago sets?
Wait you know ninjago ?
Do you mean Prime Empire?
Maria is Gerald’s brand daughter
All of the final Bosses must need to be Destroyed.
wanna know what truly confuses me?
where was sonic during the iblis fight?
did sonic just not exist in it?
but eggman did and he died with eliese so that means eggman could have taken over already.
1:54 I thought this boss was called Mobius strip???????
Not to be dramatic but Sonics final line to Merlina about living life to the fullest in the time we have always makes me tear up
11:07 The robot's bleeding!!!!! How is it bleeding????????
0:37 Count Spooky!!!!!!!!!
Aka eggman messing with things out of his control.
Merlinaaaaaa!!! I love you!!!!!! Best Sonic villain evaaaaa!!!!!!!
8:59 You mean granddaughter right?
Why weren’t you able to play shadow the hedgehog
Dark Gaia on top
3:54 don’t you mean the Devil from you know da bible
Honestly kind of overated
TH-cam channel selling
Okay, no, you lost me when you put The End above Dark Gaia
It’s a better boss fight. Just stop.
@@jesuspernia8031I mean he still can for his own list but I do agree he is over reacting
@@jesuspernia8031 It is literally a worse boss fight in every way. It is smaller in scale, less threatening, not as memorable in design, has a poorly conveyed method of victory, & trees that block the gosh dang boss.
Dark Gaia's fight has an intense aura, taking place in the Earth's core, surrounded by lava. He's putting the planet in immediate danger, rather than being a threat that will "eventually" destroy the world. He has an actual design rather than just being a purple moon strapped to a reskin of the first boss. The method of defeating Dark Gaia is made much clearer, allowing players to beat him through their skill & experience rather than dying & trying again because you don't know what the heck you're doing. Also yes the trees are a problem. Who in their right mind designs a boss with such a poor camera angle that puts useless objects in the way of the main focus?
The whole fight is an insult to game design as a whole, & I'm baffled that people like it at all. The cinematics do nothing to make up for the sheer laziness, ignorance, tedium, & lame storytelling present in this boss. But I'm fair, & I will say the orchestrated version of "I'm Here" was phenomenal, & easily on par with the orchestral "Endless Possibilities" in terms of pure quality. However, being tied to such a bad boss definitely brings it down for me.
Not saying you have to agree, but I won't stop, & I'm not overreacting. It's a crappy boss, not the worst ever, but definitely low on my list.
Dark Gaia isn't the coolest but is indeed terrifying. This boss fight sucks so much that I'm so glad I'll never play Sonic Unleashed again. Yes, I hate both versions of Sonic Unleashed.