my jeeps is making the exact same noise and I think it's that right rear wheel, it's hard to pin point. I took it to a mechanic and he couldn't figure it out, I've been driving it that way for about a while now, so many thanks for putting this video together, going to order the parts and fix it.
Just a quick update, I went ahead and replaced the rear wheel hubs, it was hard to tell that they were bad just bu wiggling the tire while on a jack stand, once I took the hub off I could hear the grinding, I ended up replacing both rear even though only the right one was bad, problem solved.
Really do appreciate the video. In the middle of this job right now. My mother's Patriot needed it done, but the bearings are factory original... and everything is rusted to hell and gone. (The cotter pin dissolved after hitting it with penetrating fluid!) Oh well, no rest for the wicked, back at it. Thanks again.
Use a air ratchet on full beans to remove those over torqued lug nuts. A 1 1/4 inch socket is comparable to a 32mm socket. I like the pre pressed in bearing and new hub, makes this a doable DIY project, thanks for taking us along, nice job. Many times, an out of round wheel bearing will trigger an abs light since the abs sensor isn’t getting a consistent reading as it contacts the outside surface of the bearing.
Thanks for the video. I appreciate your taking the time to go though the steps of this process. Getting the tip about freeing the brake sensor line probably just saved my bacon. I wouldn’t have thought of doing that and breaking that connector would make me spew out a line of cuss that would make a sailor blush...
My 2017 is making that same noise. Have replaced bearings on several of my cars, so nice seeing that it's a nice easy job like my other ones. By far the worst is my wife's 2016 Explorer. Aluminum knuckle and steel bearing means it basically welds itself together. Lots heat, beat, repeat and penetrating oil to get those things out
on my 2012 patriot I thought the freaking noise was coming from the transmission and had the trans fluid changed (filter included)! My bad not having a professional checking the car before making the wrong decision, needless to say, the noise still there! Btw, I was due on my trans fluid change, car has 130k kms, manual says to replace at 104k. Here in Ecuador mechanics are full of s..t and always try to take advantage of customers giving made up diagnostics! GReat video, thank you!
I will put this here. 2012 Patriot and Compass only. I just got my front end subframe replaced at the dealer FREE. 2008-2012 models had subframe rot due to poor coating and the AC dripping onto it continuously. NHTSA made Chrysler issue a 10 year warranty. The Warranty is up to 10 years from the date your vehicles initial consumer service date (purchase). The clock is ticking on 2012's to get a free dealer inspection. This applies to rust belt states and Canada. 2013 had the problem resolved, all other have timed out.
My dash lit up like a Christmas tree and sent codes. 4wd, ABS, Traction. I guess there are two kinds of bearing failure. One where the sensors are intact and functioning but growling, and one where the sensors fail to receive proper signals but little or no bearing growl.
I'll be replacing the hub bearings on my 2016 patriot soon. I did my 2012 patriot last year and had trouble with the four bolts in the back. Even after soaking them with PB blaster.
I'm going to be doing the same job on my 2013 Jeep Patriot. New hub assemblies, backing plates, parking brake shoes and hardware. Both sides. The backing plates are rusted through, and with 200k miles it's time for a refresh. The backing plates are on back-order from the factory. I hope they don't take too long to get here! Nice video, though. Now, I'm more confident about tackling the job with limited resources!
I think the worse part of the job was knocking the bearing out of the backing plate so if you're replacing those, you should be good as gold. Rockauto.com has those backing plates for about $43 each side if you were still waiting for them.
I went to rock auto to find the hub assembly for replacement for 2014 Jeep Patriot as in video above. But not sure which ones to buy. I will be replacing all 4. Could you link them for me.
If you use a good penetrating oil and let it soak you should be able to knock out out with a couple hard blows. If the backing plate is badly rusted it would make sense to just replace them.
Telk me about it i replaced the two outer bearings on my 5 manual transmission, them lug bolts about 3 were on so tight it took two lug nut socket them lug nuts were tiny. What a nightmare
I actually point out and thank a tech that breaks out a torque wrench on lug nuts. 👍 Then there's the guys that think the highest pressure setting on a 1/2" drive air gun is cool...... Jackasses
My 2013 Patriot has a very loud roaring sound coming from the rear, but the noise doesn't change when swerving to the right or left. One tech told me it was a wheel bearing, and a different tech said it was not a wheel bearing but a spider gear in the differential. Both rear wheel bearings were replaced only a year and a half a go. I drained the fluid from the differential yesterday and filled it with new oil. There were no metal shavings in the old fluid. Do you having any idea what the problem might be? Thank you!
I agree with the tech. It could be wear on the rear gears or they are maladjusted causing the noise. Any good tech would have inspected the bearings and backlash to prove that theory though
Unfortunately I didn't have a tripod setup at the time I made this video. All you have to do is hold the backing plate and beat the hell out of the bearing from the back side. I did it with a 2lb sledge that I have.
Ok, just did the left rear, here are my observations: Don't bother popping the center insert out of the alloy wheel. Just bolt the donut spare on and you're good to go. Don't bother removing the ABS wire. The sensor slides out of a clip on the bearing and there's plenty of wire to move it out of the way. The bearing hub bolts are 11/16". It helps if you have a deepwell socket and a regular socket plus different length extensions. Having an electric ratchet saves a ton of little swings once you get the four bolts loose. The last thing I did was to slide the ABS sensor back into the clip. I had to back the car up on ramps to be able to see what I was doing. You won't be able to remove the bearing hub without first removing the sensor and you won't be able to reinstall the hub if you install the ABS sensor first. So, you need ramps, jack stands, a jack, a socket set, penetrating oil, a big hammer, and patience. I guess I saved myself $500 in labor. As always, if you don't feel confident in your ability to do this kind of work then seek out a good mechanic. There's no shame in being honest with yourself. Update, 8/1/2023: The local dealer replaced the right rear wheel bearing after I took the car for yearly state inspection. When this started I replaced the left rear wheel bearing because that's where the sound was coming from. When the noise remained I visited a local transmission shop. He felt that, because the noise never changed when you turned right or left, a bearing in the differential was the problem. So, I spent $1100 on a new one, which is still in the unopened box. Although the noise came from the left side, the bad bearing was actually on the opposite side. In the interim I bought a Mopar extended warranty. It came in handy six months later when the throttle body failed for the second time in 55,000 miles. I put up with the noise for four years, initially believing it to be tire noise. I guess that the (expensive) lesson is to replace the wheel bearings in pairs.
@@JayRellBurks I had the tools in my jeep, minus the axel nut which I had at home but not in the jeep with me. Auto zone isn't really a thing in canada, I went to lordco which is honestly the biggest rip-off parts store but its all the town had. Bottle jack, socket set, pliers, mini sledgehammer, Breaker bar
Omg! Took my Patriot in to Cars Plus Guam. Told the service guy that there's a loud noise that sounded if I was driving a 4x4 truck. Also, that there might be something wrong with the front wheel as it makes a strange sound and when turn in different directions. He said, "your 4x4 was on." Today the noise is louder than before. Gotta find a good mechanic. Someone who knows about cars. 🤔
@@JrZCarZ I finally got the bolts off and installed the new hub assembly. After I got everything back in place and the bolts torqued I have to use a bar to move the hub. Is this normal? Thanks for your help JrZ CarZ!
@@JrZCarZ THE sensor can be put in the wrong way as the grove is barely visible and the stupid thin holding wire is not good engineering as it can rust away and the sensor falls out then the whole assembly has to be replaced ...........MOST CARS HAVE A BETTER WAY OF HOLDING THAT SENSOR IN SECURELY ...
It not that they get torqued really hard it that those oem nut suck sometimes the chrome comes off while take it off and they they get really rusted because the oem nut is 100 percent seald and they made of cheap material i switched nuts got them from discount tire never had issue after words thats that i properly torqued the wheels on my jeep
Good job. I might suggest using a standard puller to free up the splined shaft, rather than a thumper, but having said that, I have a full arsenal of hammers in my shop.... :)
Modern cars have a far better setup than that on a 1982 Rabbit I had. I had to take the entire spindle to the shop to press the hub from the bearing then press the bearing from the spindle. The disc shield was between the hub and spindle. One critique: you should never put a "torque enhancer" on a breaker bar. More of a disclaimer. I'm about to do this on my wife's Patriot with 47,000 miles. It seems to be coming from the left rear but (a) the noise actually goes away over 40 mph, and (b) it doesn't change in turns. It began after having new tires installed two years ago and has passed two state inspections by the dealer we bought it from. Part of me thinks it's tire noise because the tires it came with, which didn't have a particularly aggressive tread, were noisy as all heck.
I Prefer air hammer. Pullers are for components that are frozen in place and need to be removed and reinstalled. To access another component that is bad. A bad wheel bearing is JUNK anyway, it's stress relief also if you have been dealing with the joy of being a mechanic foe years! 😅🤣😂😆
Can you un hook that abs sensor it’s not a drive every day vehicle only use it to take my dogs 🐕 for a walk Dashboard lights up like a Christmas tree traction sensor cuts motor power down it’s an old vehicle I don’t want to put a lot of money in it really don’t wanna put any money in it once my dogs are gone sold is the vehicle
my jeeps is making the exact same noise and I think it's that right rear wheel, it's hard to pin point. I took it to a mechanic and he couldn't figure it out, I've been driving it that way for about a while now, so many thanks for putting this video together, going to order the parts and fix it.
Just a quick update, I went ahead and replaced the rear wheel hubs, it was hard to tell that they were bad just bu wiggling the tire while on a jack stand, once I took the hub off I could hear the grinding, I ended up replacing both rear even though only the right one was bad, problem solved.
Thanks for the video. I love that it exists so I can see before I do.
Glad it can help you out!
Great sound it was exactly the same sound my 2015 was making. Replaced drivers side bearing yesterday no more noise.
Really do appreciate the video. In the middle of this job right now. My mother's Patriot needed it done, but the bearings are factory original... and everything is rusted to hell and gone. (The cotter pin dissolved after hitting it with penetrating fluid!) Oh well, no rest for the wicked, back at it. Thanks again.
thank you for this video! Helped us diagnose TWO bad bearings!
Thanks for watching. I'm glad it helped you out!
Thanks brother. Helped out a ton.
Glad it helped you out!
Thank you! I have the same issue which driving me crazy with the loud noise
Use a air ratchet on full beans to remove those over torqued lug nuts. A 1 1/4 inch socket is comparable to a 32mm socket. I like the pre pressed in bearing and new hub, makes this a doable DIY project, thanks for taking us along, nice job. Many times, an out of round wheel bearing will trigger an abs light since the abs sensor isn’t getting a consistent reading as it contacts the outside surface of the bearing.
Thanks for simplifying this procedure for me.
Thanks for the video. I appreciate your taking the time to go though the steps of this process. Getting the tip about freeing the brake sensor line probably just saved my bacon. I wouldn’t have thought of doing that and breaking that connector would make me spew out a line of cuss that would make a sailor blush...
Thank you for this film...very helpfull!! Greets from France, Dordogne, I have a Patriot 2.0 CRD diesel 2008
Very well explained. I might even attempt this job. 👏
My 2017 is making that same noise. Have replaced bearings on several of my cars, so nice seeing that it's a nice easy job like my other ones. By far the worst is my wife's 2016 Explorer. Aluminum knuckle and steel bearing means it basically welds itself together. Lots heat, beat, repeat and penetrating oil to get those things out
on my 2012 patriot I thought the freaking noise was coming from the transmission and had the trans fluid changed (filter included)! My bad not having a professional checking the car before making the wrong decision, needless to say, the noise still there! Btw, I was due on my trans fluid change, car has 130k kms, manual says to replace at 104k.
Here in Ecuador mechanics are full of s..t and always try to take advantage of customers giving made up diagnostics!
GReat video, thank you!
Many many many thanks! Your video really helped me out tremendously on my repair of my patriot! Thanks! 🙂👍
I love Jeeps. They are easy to fix and the parts are not expensive. Thanks for the video. I learned a lot from you.
Great video, that;s exactly what my compass sounds like. Question, did you put grease on the axel spleen when you intstalled the new hub?
Put some anti-seize on there so the axle doesn't seize to the hub.
Thank you for video, hi from Ukraine
Thanks for watching!
I will put this here. 2012 Patriot and Compass only. I just got my front end subframe replaced at the dealer FREE. 2008-2012 models had subframe rot due to poor coating and the AC dripping onto it continuously. NHTSA made Chrysler issue a 10 year warranty. The Warranty is up to 10 years from the date your vehicles initial consumer service date (purchase). The clock is ticking on 2012's to get a free dealer inspection. This applies to rust belt states and Canada. 2013 had the problem resolved, all other have timed out.
What is the torque for the axle nut? Your explanation is very clear. Im doing mine nextweek.
The axle nut torque is 180 Ft. Lbs 👍
Great video...... what warning lights were on before you replaced the bearing? as in ABS, Traction control etc!
No warning lights, just the loud humming noise indicative of a bad beating.
My dash lit up like a Christmas tree and sent codes. 4wd, ABS, Traction. I guess there are two kinds of bearing failure. One where the sensors are intact and functioning but growling, and one where the sensors fail to receive proper signals but little or no bearing growl.
I'll be replacing the hub bearings on my 2016 patriot soon. I did my 2012 patriot last year and had trouble with the four bolts in the back. Even after soaking them with PB blaster.
When I saw the rust it concerned me but eventually they broke free. 👍
Thank you my friend you are the best
Thanks for this video 👍
Thanks for watching 👍
TY for description! Great Job.
Thanks for watching 👍
Very thorough. Thank you.
Can you use a torch to get the bearing out if the hammer doesn’t work
Yep, you could torch it as well.
I'm going to be doing the same job on my 2013 Jeep Patriot. New hub assemblies, backing plates, parking brake shoes and hardware. Both sides.
The backing plates are rusted through, and with 200k miles it's time for a refresh. The backing plates are on back-order from the factory. I hope they don't take too long to get here! Nice video, though. Now, I'm more confident about tackling the job with limited resources!
I think the worse part of the job was knocking the bearing out of the backing plate so if you're replacing those, you should be good as gold. Rockauto.com has those backing plates for about $43 each side if you were still waiting for them.
Wow that wheel bearing sounded terrible! Nice job at the repair.
Yea it was insanely loud in the car!
Ive been driving around with this noise almost a year now. Whats the worst that could happen? Serious question no sarcasm.. TIA
Worse case, the wheel seizes up. You shouldn't ignore warning signs of a problem with your car.
Just did my bearing. This video made it very easy. That stupid anti lock brake sensor was a bitch. I know next time to plug it in first. Thank you
Glad it helped you out!!
Where did you buy the front wheel bearing from that has the clip included for the ABS sensor?
The wheel bearings I bought were Timken bearings from Rockauto.com
@@JrZCarZ thank you I’ll check to see if they are still available.
I went to rock auto to find the hub assembly for replacement for 2014 Jeep Patriot as in video above. But not sure which ones to buy. I will be replacing all 4. Could you link them for me.
Would it be easier to replace the backing plate also rather than dealing with seperating them?
If you use a good penetrating oil and let it soak you should be able to knock out out with a couple hard blows. If the backing plate is badly rusted it would make sense to just replace them.
Brilliant video
Thanks for watching!
good video help me with my jeep patriot 4x4 with the wheel bearing thank u
Awesome. I'm glad it helped you out! 👍
Do you have to have both rear wheels raised in order for one to spin freely? Thank you.
If it's an open diff, no. If you have posi, then yes.
Thank you!
Telk me about it i replaced the two outer bearings on my 5 manual transmission, them lug bolts about 3 were on so tight it took two lug nut socket them lug nuts were tiny. What a nightmare
I actually point out and thank a tech that breaks out a torque wrench on lug nuts. 👍 Then there's the guys that think the highest pressure setting on a 1/2" drive air gun is cool...... Jackasses
Thank you.
I'm going to have to do this today
Had to replace mine only because the abs sensor clip completely rusted to dust.
Unfortunately rust is a common Chrysler issue.
Nice
Thanks!
My 2013 Patriot has a very loud roaring sound coming from the rear, but the noise doesn't change when swerving to the right or left. One tech told me it was a wheel bearing, and a different tech said it was not a wheel bearing but a spider gear in the differential. Both rear wheel bearings were replaced only a year and a half a go. I drained the fluid from the differential yesterday and filled it with new oil. There were no metal shavings in the old fluid.
Do you having any idea what the problem might be?
Thank you!
I agree with the tech. It could be wear on the rear gears or they are maladjusted causing the noise. Any good tech would have inspected the bearings and backlash to prove that theory though
Been there, done that. Start by replacing both rear wheel bearings. I have a brand new differential in the box thanks to a misdiagnosis.
My problem was the wheel bearing I bought from O'Reilly auto parts.
It only lasted about three days then it went bad too..
Why did you take it off camera that's the only thing I needed to know but thanks for everything else
Unfortunately I didn't have a tripod setup at the time I made this video. All you have to do is hold the backing plate and beat the hell out of the bearing from the back side. I did it with a 2lb sledge that I have.
Ok, just did the left rear, here are my observations:
Don't bother popping the center insert out of the alloy wheel. Just bolt the donut spare on and you're good to go.
Don't bother removing the ABS wire. The sensor slides out of a clip on the bearing and there's plenty of wire to move it out of the way.
The bearing hub bolts are 11/16". It helps if you have a deepwell socket and a regular socket plus different length extensions. Having an electric ratchet saves a ton of little swings once you get the four bolts loose.
The last thing I did was to slide the ABS sensor back into the clip. I had to back the car up on ramps to be able to see what I was doing. You won't be able to remove the bearing hub without first removing the sensor and you won't be able to reinstall the hub if you install the ABS sensor first.
So, you need ramps, jack stands, a jack, a socket set, penetrating oil, a big hammer, and patience. I guess I saved myself $500 in labor.
As always, if you don't feel confident in your ability to do this kind of work then seek out a good mechanic. There's no shame in being honest with yourself.
Update, 8/1/2023:
The local dealer replaced the right rear wheel bearing after I took the car for yearly state inspection.
When this started I replaced the left rear wheel bearing because that's where the sound was coming from. When the noise remained I visited a local transmission shop. He felt that, because the noise never changed when you turned right or left, a bearing in the differential was the problem. So, I spent $1100 on a new one, which is still in the unopened box.
Although the noise came from the left side, the bad bearing was actually on the opposite side.
In the interim I bought a Mopar extended warranty. It came in handy six months later when the throttle body failed for the second time in 55,000 miles. I put up with the noise for four years, initially believing it to be tire noise.
I guess that the (expensive) lesson is to replace the wheel bearings in pairs.
Helpful
This job took me an hour to do in the parking lot of an auto parts store
It's fairly simple to do, so long as you aren't having to battle rust 👍
What tools did you use and did you rent them from auto zone???
@@JayRellBurks I had the tools in my jeep, minus the axel nut which I had at home but not in the jeep with me.
Auto zone isn't really a thing in canada, I went to lordco which is honestly the biggest rip-off parts store but its all the town had.
Bottle jack, socket set, pliers, mini sledgehammer, Breaker bar
Axel nut socket is what I meant.
From Lordco I bought the socket for my axel nut, the bearing, and a mini sledge.
This gives me hope 😁
Omg! Took my Patriot in to Cars Plus Guam. Told the service guy that there's a loud noise that sounded if I was driving a 4x4 truck. Also, that there might be something wrong with the front wheel as it makes a strange sound and when turn in different directions. He said, "your 4x4 was on." Today the noise is louder than before. Gotta find a good mechanic. Someone who knows about cars. 🤔
I still haven't been able to get the bolts loose.
If they are that stuck, you'll probably have to use heat to get them loose.
@@JrZCarZ I finally got the bolts off and installed the new hub assembly. After I got everything back in place and the bolts torqued I have to use a bar to move the hub. Is this normal? Thanks for your help JrZ CarZ!
Where can I find front wheel bearings hub for 2014 keep patriot 2.4 4x4 w/ABS.
Any parts store would have them but the best prices I found were on rockauto.com
Front bearings on the Patriot are pressed in bearings, not the sealed units used on the rear. You need special press adaptors or have a shop do it.
Is it just me or at the 6:45 mark we went from a disc brake assembly to a drum brake assembly ?
The rear disc brake rotor doubles as a drum for the parking brakes.
ShadowT77 is correct. The main brake is a disc, however the parking brake is a drum which is inside the disc hat.
Hi Jerry, is there any update on the Hyundai Sonata?
Nothing yet, but it's coming soon.
Hey Tyler, Check out the newest video on the Sonata, as I finally started working on it today! th-cam.com/video/LOUT7kLCbdQ/w-d-xo.html
@@JrZCarZ I already did. Also liked and commented too. Thank you for taking time to make the video!
What are the torque specs for axel bolt?
180 ft. lbs
SHOW HOW THE SENSOR GOES IN PLEASE
The sensor was part of the wheel bearing. The connector was pretty self explanatory on how it connects the electrical side to the wheel bearing.
@@JrZCarZ THE sensor can be put in the wrong way as the grove is barely visible and the stupid thin holding wire is not good engineering as it can rust away and the sensor falls out then the whole assembly has to be replaced ...........MOST CARS HAVE A BETTER WAY OF HOLDING THAT SENSOR IN SECURELY ...
About how much money would that cost?
I believe it was about $50 each wheel bearing. If you took it to a mechanic, you are significantly more than that with labor and markup on parts.
How many miles is on this car?
The Patriot had 138k on it.
It not that they get torqued really hard it that those oem nut suck sometimes the chrome comes off while take it off and they they get really rusted because the oem nut is 100 percent seald and they made of cheap material i switched nuts got them from discount tire never had issue after words thats that i properly torqued the wheels on my jeep
Good job. I might suggest using a standard puller to free up the splined shaft, rather than a thumper, but having said that, I have a full arsenal of hammers in my shop.... :)
Modern cars have a far better setup than that on a 1982 Rabbit I had. I had to take the entire spindle to the shop to press the hub from the bearing then press the bearing from the spindle. The disc shield was between the hub and spindle.
One critique: you should never put a "torque enhancer" on a breaker bar. More of a disclaimer.
I'm about to do this on my wife's Patriot with 47,000 miles. It seems to be coming from the left rear but (a) the noise actually goes away over 40 mph, and (b) it doesn't change in turns. It began after having new tires installed two years ago and has passed two state inspections by the dealer we bought it from. Part of me thinks it's tire noise because the tires it came with, which didn't have a particularly aggressive tread, were noisy as all heck.
My bad, that is the emergency brake assembly. Peace!
Why all yall have disck brakes my rear is drum brakes
What year is yours?
You could have just used a hub puller instead of hammering it out
I Prefer air hammer. Pullers are for components that are frozen in place and need to be removed and reinstalled. To access another component that is bad. A bad wheel bearing is JUNK anyway, it's stress relief also if you have been dealing with the joy of being a mechanic foe years! 😅🤣😂😆
Didn't have a hub puller, this was done during the Pandemic so parts and tools were limited so I made do with what I had and it worked 😁
Toy airplane sound as car accelerates: CHECK.
Same here for my caliber made the same noise
Good video just don’t call the parking brakes “emergency brakes”
Technically they are both, for parking and emergencies
I cringed as he scratched the bejesus out of the rim at 11:17.
Those rims are scratched up anyway. It didnt scratch anything worse than they already are 😉
The wind is interfering with speech. Makes this hard to hear
Unfortunately that happens when you work outside 😉
I couldent here the noise it was having
It was humming really loud after hitting about 25mph
Yeah, now that summer's here Dave's Driveway Auto Shop will be doing this job. I'm freshly retired so time is on my side too!
Can you un hook that abs sensor it’s not a drive every day vehicle only use it to take my dogs 🐕 for a walk Dashboard lights up like a Christmas tree traction sensor cuts motor power down it’s an old vehicle I don’t want to put a lot of money in it really don’t wanna put any money in it once my dogs are gone sold is the vehicle
Second time watching this video because I replaced the first bearing with cheap Chinese junk from Amazon.
use a bigger hammer.
The BFH needed to be a BiggerFH 😄
I can not get hub out from backing plate 🥹 gotta love the rust belt
It took a little bit of pounding to get it separated. Some heat would work too
I try heat wd40 pending it out with air hammer nothing last step is the ASTRO last chance bolts
Thank you!