@@Zelphyn this video would’ve been 20+ minutes if I went over every agent that benefitted her and all the minute details, instead this video is just for the agents the benefit the most from Caesar in a short summary
Caesar is like standard banner dps' enabler in the endgame. She made my s11 actually fun (and strong) to play. Before she was very underwhelming even tho i (unfortunatly) have her m2. However i still think jane is currently the strongest character in the game and the Best pull you could do meta-wise
@@markhui if we are talking strictly meta, then pulling Qingyi and Zhu yuan is the best. Because that team still has the highest overall DPS in the game. And people are still getting faster clears with Zhu yuan over Jane even against physical weak enemies. Zhu yuan and Qingyi together is just broken asf
@@KetteiThe7th_ thats two banner characters so its already big investment and you need to build them too. I feel like jane doesnt even need the team cause of how broken she is.
@@KetteiThe7th_it isnt even zhu yuan tbf; its qingyi. Though zhu yuan is very strong in her best team, when another burst dps rolls around qingyi will be one of if not the best stunner to fill the slot since she synergizes so much with burst dpses. Qingyi is just that busted but ppl’s attention are turned towards jane😢
Anomoly will never be top tier meta though. People stare at jane doe's anomoly procs and lose their minds thinking shes the best DPS in the game but the reality is that Anomoly has a delay. First the character needs to apply anomoly, then wait, then apply another anomoly to get a payoff with disorder. Where as a classic stunner+support+DPS just goes in, stuns, off their DPS payload, and win. Anomoly is just a more wonky way to do what a dps+stunner can do with more fluctuation on DPS numbers. consistency always wins out.
Honestly. Thats all valid points. But Zhu Yuan(no matter how people can be bored of her at this point) also benefits from her. The damage buff makes burst better, and complete "No you fucking not" card allows you to not even use assists unless you need your cop to refill ammo...or maybe im just a lover of Parries...and biker girls..who knows.
@@kriso3220 this video is who benefits the “most” not who does Caesar work with. Qingyi is still better for Zhu yuan and Caesar isn’t an upgrade over qingyi
@@KetteiThe7th_ Thats right 👍 And not really a downgrade or not that much. I have Qingyi and (i hope) will have Caesar. It's just changing the strat. Time to give a cyborg girl a little break to not make her boring to play so often hah
@@KetteiThe7th_ im using zhuyuan with her and nicole for now but based on your replies it seems like qingyi is like a must for her 😅 damn i need to pull qingyi too huh
Hey kettei. After resisting on pulling for Jane for what felt like forever, I was rewarded with winning the 50/50 and the king herself coming home. Good video, though I have some thoughts: Corrin: I think Caesar's value is arguably a bit higher since they activate each other's team passive. If you pair Corrin with Qingyi, you're more or less forced to play Rina to activate Corrin's team passive, unless you're going for a more complicated team with another phys unit. Also, I think a Corrin/Qingyi/Caesar team is gonna work wonders if you don't have or don't want to play Rina. Grace: I think she benefits from Caesar just as much as Jane in a Jane/Seth/Caesar team if you don't have Rina. I have more examples with the same concept, but you get the gist. Caesar just brings so much versatility to teams for someone like me who can't afford to pull for every banner and are missing many standard S ranks. This allows me to get away with skipping future specialist supports while minimizing the negative effects. Moving on: Piper: She pairs well with Caesar, but I really wonder how much Piper fares in the endgame long-term. The new ambush node enemies hit very hard and can mulch through even Caesar's shield if you're too busy spinning. On-field Caesar Stun: I need to test how effective this is in cases where enemies resist shock but are weak to Phys. All in all, I have no regrets in pulling for her. She is both waifu and meta. Long may she reign!
The more of these videos come out, the more I am convinced that I should get her.... but Burnice sounds like a lot of fun for a Jane disorder.... and Pulchra... 😔
Bernice is definitely a lot of fun in her trial mission. But shes not that much of an off fielder tbh. She wants a lot field time and so does jane. Not that it doesnt or won't work. But she's definitely not zzz's xiangling
@@kain1799this is exactly why I chose Caesar and won’t get Burnice. Burnice’s field time is very time consuming. I love how Caesar is just in and out but makes a huge impact on the battle field. So good for a Jane and Seth team
@@kain1799Uhm, not true. You only need to switch to burnice if she runs out of fuel state or for ult. And it's highly likely other members can proc burn to enemies with afterburn. She can be both on and off field
Honestly Casar was what my account needed it. I started playing on 1.1 but i took a break shortly after ( i didnt even finished the prologue) that i came back after the Jane trailer, you know the one. i continue playing and really got into it but i realized two things. -the variety comes from the different team combinations and not from any individual character. -i needed to focuss my resources Back in 1.1 i managed to pull Nekomata so that dictated my first team being Nicole, Nekomata and Anby, fortunately i like all three of them, but the problem was the second team. I liked both Piper and Lucy (i fell for the SoC aesthetic really quick) but i lacked a third member, adding Corin felt like making a lesser version of my first team and i didnt like how Ben felt. So i finished ch 3 with almost every bit of side content possible being done by my Cunning Hares team and i was starting to feel the burn out, wich prompted me to stop doing more zero hollow. No second team to finish shinyu, just a half level up Piper and Lucy with Ben that i didnt want to level up. This was also before i got into the subreddits or before the algorithm started to shoving ZZZ content creators on my face. Then the news of Caesar being next reached my ears and inmidiately stopped pulling for Jane (although i eventually felt into the temptation of going for the 50/50 wich i lost to soldier) because she was everything i needed. A defender, stunner, buffer that filled the role i was lacking that was also the SoC leader (wich i already had a preference for) and mashed well with the Piper and Lucy that already had some resources invested on, it was perfect. Now she feels so good to play. Her moves are so satisfying, i love how she throws her shield or spins it like a saw, and her parry feel so good. Burnice is just gonna put a bow into everything but that sadly means that Lighter, as cool as he is, will be a skip.
I haven't quite gotten used to playing Caesar enough to say whether or not she's an insane time-saver/damage boost, but I can say that she's absolutely insane in Withering Garden/Inferno Reap. I ran Blitz with Ether Activity 11 on my main account with S11, Caesar, and Lucy and I literally just mashed attack vs. Nineveh, and she couldn't hurt me. I took no damage in that fight. I then played a Jane, Seth, Caesar team on my alt for Inferno Reap and managed to delete one of Nineveh's phases with a 13 million assault. So, she's definitely really useful with Resonia. Outside of that, I managed to clear the Ether resistant Ambush node stage with my Zhu Yuan team faster than I could clear it with my S11 team. And that was with my Qingyi lacking a Stun engine after I accidentally gave her the Transmorpher. So, I'm not fully sold on any of Caesar's teams that don't have Jane Doe, based on the team's performance outside Hollow Zero as well.
On the topic of Corin, the biggest edge Ceasar has over Qingyi is the physical anomaly build up, Anomaly Mastery Ceasar with Seth's W-Engine is pretty insane, enabling Corin to easily extract the potential of 4-Piece Fanged Metal, and the team can be further boosted by either Rina or Lucy. I've also tried using Qingyi and Ceasar togheter, which does a lot of damage, but is extremely chaotic and not the most fun to play.
Billy benefits THE MOST w Caesar bc he didn't have teammates that opens his fullest potential. Her Shields benefits his On-Field playstyle at M6 and prevents you to get hit and loose your M6 stacks and Crounching Mode. Her ATK buff and Off-Field debuff benefits even more his On-Field potential and if you add Lucy in his team is even BETTER. Also, the fact that she can be played as a stunner also benefits his Core Passive (100% Ult DMG) making him a Ult monster.
@KetteiThe7th_ Ye but I personally think the placing is wrong (Honorable Mentions), she makes him not only more comfortable but also a lot more powerful, the upgrade is night and day compared to other teams.
Nice vid, Kettei, loved the bgm throughout too. Caesar king seems really fun but the only team I could use her in already has koleda and her w engine so I’m skipping for now. This game is not making it easy though. I managed to get her w engine in 20 pulls whilst trying to get piper’s. 😭 I’m tryna stay strong for burnice but man is it annoying to know that w engine is just gonna sit there collecting dust until hopefully the next limited def unit can make good use of it.
yup i was running king-jane-seth since the king release and i just need this video to tell me that im using it right, guess i am a "true" gamer afterall
Caesar replaces Soukaku in an Ellen team because they share attack buffs. Caesar really needs to parry in order to actually daze enemies and she also has to either waste energy or get to the end of her attack string to initiate a chain attack. Lycaon provides different damage multipliers and with Caesar, he can safely hardswap during his long animations to not waste on fielding. Unskippable Animation time really hurts Soukaku, she’s probably the clunkiest support in the game even if she provides powerful buffs. Also Disk drives also don’t really factor in. Swing Jazz isn’t locked to supports so Lycaon can use it if you just want to buff Ellen and you still need to actually Chain attack to activate it.
Skipped Jane, Skipped qingyi, and still lost the 50/50 to Neko afer hitting pity...Which was kinda best case scenario since i didn't have her. Went to pity again just for Caeser. 🗿 As a SnS main in MH, there was no way she's WASN'T coming home!
2:30 it's gonna get even better when Burnice comes out, Jane - Caesar - Burnice with the Sons of Calydon Bangboo is going to be an absolutely insane team. And then Jane is getting ANOTHER Anomaly unit to pair with in 1.3, she just keeps winning. Also Caesar is a really great partner with Zhu Yuan if you weren't able to get Qingyi, with Zhu Yuan + Caesar + Lucy being the team.
@@hallyuniverse yea Caesar is good for Zhu yuan but this video was for the characters that benefit the “most” from Caesar and Caesar is a disgrace for Zhu yuan compress to Qingyi
as enemies gets difficult and difficult (ambush node), caesar’s interruption resistance cannot be overlooked, literally the enemies’ attack intervals are so short it’s hard to put any dps between dodges
@@tanaka-kun6388 no I didn’t miss your point lol, I’m saying that it’s not as important as you think. It’s nice QoL but not a necessity to clear the game at all. This game is still super easy
i would be all out for the ellen team buff if i actually had her 🗣🗣 spending a shitton of polychrome on regular master tapes before i understood how the gacha actually worked hits different
Caesar does wonders for Ellen Joe, but there is still a huge problem with her team... Soukaku's new VA still remains a very noticeable debuff to the team composition
I built my Caesar to be fully support with 4p jazz. With my Lucy Ex-spec on, the total buffs had looking at funny big numbers on my S11 (nearing 6000 total ATK) outside of hollow zero. Caesar is just bonkers for my fire team.
@KetteiThe7th_ I'm workin' on it! ^_^ I also lucked on her sig engine. Th3 numbers I have rn is Lucy and Caesar still not at full build. I'm expecting to see even bigger once I get them both up to spec
She's so good for everyone. My biggets issue with Zhu C1 was that I when I had a lot of blasts to unleash, she would often be interrupted from getting hit but now the shield situation covers that nicely, on top of ATK and daze utility. King is too good.
Qingyi is still better for Zhu yuan, and Zhu yuan shouldn’t be getting hit until Qingyi stuns them for her. But if you don’t have Qingyi then Ceasar is a fine 2nd for her
Yellow Anby, Caesar, Lucy all day. Plus I have gotten yellow Anby almost every time I’ve failed the 50/50 so I have c5 lol. I would say the Seth, Jane, Caesar comb doesn’t work great because Jane mostly scales off anomaly. Generally speaking Caesar pairs with non burst dps, which is most of them aside from Zhu yuan. I’ll likely end up with 3 teams in this order for flexibility. S11, Caesar, Lucy. Zhu, qingyi, Nicole. Jane, Seth, burnice. Then I’m done shilling for a long time and will save up unless someone really cool comes along or I want to start mindscaping one on their repeats.
The main reason i cant justify Ceaser is because: 1. I got M1W1 Qingyi so my needs for stunners is practically zero 2. I need Burnice 3. Im actually kinda behind on building my agents atm, especially since my Ellen is getting hard countered atm so I now need to start raising Corin and Rina up after Burnice prefarming is done. Man im glad 1.3 is a skip so I can catch up-
The issue with soldier 11 is she's mediocre as a main DPS. Even with ceaser soldier 11 will only do slightly below the damage an ether team would bring before qingyi was released. That's why the best team for soldier 11 is > S11+ ceaser+pipper as S11 is only good for building fire anomoly so pipper can apply disorder. It's still going to be a while before a fire team can honestly do some serious damage as it's currently being held back by soldier 11. As for corin, I would say it's only really an option to build a corin and waste reasources if a player has the worst luck in the game and have a C6 corin collecting dust. A C6 corin is a walmart 5 star that can carry just fine. It won't be ether damage, it won't be ice damage, it wont be fire damage, but it will carry.
not everyone plays for strictly meta man, if their favorite character is corin or s11, then caesar is great for them. Also theres literally videos of m0 s11 players solo clearing shiyu defense 7 in the recommended 2:30 mark for one side, theres billy mains solo clearing EVERYTHING in the game with S ranks too, so the game genuinely isnt hard enough to even think about full meta rn, and the game proabbly wont get much harder for a long time. i beat all of shiyu and the new ambush node with A ranks only and had like over a minute to spare for both sides of shiyu. Until the game gets harder then playing for meta strictly just doesnt matter
You forgot to mention that caesar helps activate corin's fanged metal. When you use qingyi corin, you only have piper/jane to help activate fanged metal. With caesar you can go caesar-corin-rina/lucy too
I pulled Caesar and her W-engine purely for Nekomata (I wasn't planning on pulling her signature, but Caesar blessed me). Playing Nekomata has never felt this good for me.
For Ellen, I wonder how Caesar/Soukaku compares to Lyacon/Caesar. More on-field ice buildup, you get Lyacons shred and stun window multiplier and Caesars attack buff, instead of two attack buffs stacked on top of each other. I've seen people make a case for Burnice over Caesar in S11 teams, and just...no. Piper however, I'd be suprised if Caesar is the better in-slot here. Guess we'll see.
On paper Caesar+Soukaku is much better, like...MUCH better in terms of DPS. But the only actual in game test I've seen (I don't own Lycaon so couldn't do the practical test sadly) has the Caesar+Lycaon as the fastest Ellen Clears Edit: Whatever combination you use Caesar is an upgrade on the swapped out unit on paper and on that one practical test I have seen but not by more than I think 5-10 seconds
@@CombatPandaZenlessZoneZeroActually, Lycaon+Caesar seems to be better currently. Too much atk buffs give diminishing returns, and Lycaon's Ice Res debuffs and stun multipliers make him the better pick Also, a big problem with Soukaku are her extremely long animations. Speedrunners have ditched her since 1.0 for M1 Rina because despise having really good buffs, she just takes too much field time to apply them and actually makes your Shiyu rotations slower
Why does no one talk about Zhu Yuan in these videos? It's like ppl are forgetting she exists or that not everyone has Chingyi. I'm still running Anby with Zhu Yuan. So it'd be nice to hear insight from others as to whether Caesar would be a worth upgrade from Anby.
ive had to answer this multiple times now in this comment section, but zhu yuan does benefit from caesar but this video is who benefits the "most" not who benefits at all. If i made the video on who benefits from caesar in general it would be almost the entire roster of characters cause caesar is just that good. Caesar is good with zhu yuan but shes a sidegrade for zhu yuan not the best. And again this video is specifically for the characters caesar is best with not a sidegrade
As a neko main i can firmly say, No character benefits from Caesar more than Neko does; Neko was the only S rank in the entire game who did not have a team prior to Caesar. Neko's best team was with Anby and Nicole; 2 units who have literally zero synergy with her. Caesar saved her.
@@timofaust1315 I'm alternating between using either lucy or Piper, stilling testing both of those options to see which i prefer and which ends up being better. Piper currently feels a lot better because she can easily get assaults to max out Neko's addiction passive however the main advantage with lucy is the fact that quick assists activate Neko's core passive (the attack buff from lucy feels rather redundant with Caesar's massive attack buff) so you struggle to buff her during stun windows without a support. The ideal 3rd character would be Piper with a built in Quick assist but that doesn't exist unfortunately.
Oh I mostly show others gameplay to help advertise for them lol. Most of the clips I show are from people much smaller than me, so I try to show them off and maybe some people will check them out and hey they might even get a few subs from it too lol
@@ViniciusFigueiredo19 piper is easier to use and build, neko takes more investment to get similar clears. But neko can also have more skill expression. Comes down to who you prefer imo
I was looking to get the 10% crit rate cinema for anton and got her first pull. I might just wait for a good A rank w engine otherwise I am using the fossil stun engine
@@KetteiThe7th_ her shield isn't the big thing, the big is the interupt res, every other dps aside ellen and Zhu needs that. Factoring in the 1k atk buff + 25% dmg amp, S11 and Neko along with all A rank dps aside from billy at m6, has shit and giggle for base line free stat and scaling compare to Billy, Ellen and Zhu yuan, she core because not only does she allow to actually get the dmg out, she also give them enough stat to actually do dmg.
@@yukinohazuki9918Interrupt res only matters to enemies that can't 1 or 2 shot Ceasar's shield. You can still see people with ceasar doing dodges and assists in ambush node. Jane and Billy also does not need her since they like to dodge.
@@genoside5138 yeah But Jane + Caesar get her the atk she need + dmg% she want allowing her to go Pen 5 due to the amount of dmg% and atk she give. + Allowing Jane to make mistakes and tanky
@@yukinohazuki9918 I assume you not have seen vids where Jane soloed shiyu and 11/11 nineveh. Again not needed. The buffs can be obtained with other current supp(although lesser) and with future supp. The shield is there for mistakes, but you still want to dodge with Jane most of the time as it refills her passion state + her engine requires you to dodge.
Isn't Ellen, Lycaon/Qingyi and Caesar a better comp than the team with Soukaku 'tho _since Caesar and Soukaku give the same type of buff, making it overinvestment in a single stat buff?
Well like gives a stun dmg multiplier of 35% which is around 15-25% tru dmg increase depending on the enemy your fighting, and he shreds resistance But soukaku buffs dmg% herself and with the 4pc support set, can give 1,000 attack and shred ice resistance. So she still overall will beat out Lyacon in terms of just pure raw dmg increase but I believe Lyacon can probably give you faster clear times because his animations are such much shorter than Soukaku and Soukaku takes ramp up time to get her buffs going. Overall they probably perform very similar in terms of actual clear time and I wouldn’t be shocked if you can clear faster with Lyacon
@@BuddyChy I don’t understand how lol, she’s not a must pull just a strong agent. Future supports are going to easily eclipse her buffs and she’s going to become an agent that just versatile and good. But future supports will just buff more than she does
@@KetteiThe7th_ sorry I know I’m new to ZZZ and gachas in general, but I’m trying to just have fun out here and I can’t imagine not being able to play with Caesar. Her gameplay is right up my alley. She’s so badass. So to be clear, I’m not coming from a place of meta and min maxing. I couldn’t care less about power creep right now. I also started late so I missed out on Ellen, Zhu Yuan, Qingyi, AND Jane. I don’t even have all the agents that launched with the game nor do I have many mindscapes to speak of aside from M6 Seth and M4 Anby. I’m planning on skipping Burnice for Yanagi too. Edit: no offense, but I will think less of anyone who skips Caesar on principle. Just personal thing for me. I still respect people choices but I can’t help but see people differently for it. But it’s really not that serious lol I look forward to enjoying and interacting with the ZZZ community. GREAT VID BTW!
Cesar is good right now especially at E0 but once we get more units her value dwindles a bit but she will always be a solid pick as a filler for late game 2 nd teams mark my word
@@KetteiThe7th_ the class is just for people who cant parry or dodge it’s like the ultrakill devs said “ why would I need to block when I could just parry?”
Hmm I think you can say that for some characters but not all. Few examples: 1. Ellen really doesn’t need to dodge out of her last basic attack or her DPS plummets 2. Piper really would prefer to continue to spin rather than dodge out of her EX special 3. Corin when she has full energy doesn’t want to dodge either 4. S11 being able to continue to do DPS 100% of the time while not having to dodge is massive for her Those are just a few examples, some characters just really don’t want to dodge if they don’t have too and Caesar allows these characters to not have to dodge all the time which increases their overall DPS, and Caesar also buffs enough to justify it aswell
@@KetteiThe7th_ then again for those classes you rotate with your other person thats why im going for burn because she stands out longer plus some classes have amazing I-frames like jane, burn, nicole piper don’t have I frames technically but as long as you hit them it interrupts them thats why i lik seth because he makes big enimies get stunned
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Sorry but... EZ Skip.
@@AverageLuckGamer bruh
Skipping as well, but not because it's easy🥲. I just like Burnice a little more
I won't be pulling for her...
Because I already did + W-engine
@@Goldblasterblaze BASED
OneGuy says you pulled her on your p2w account
Caesar will replace Seth in Jane teams: ❌
Caesar and Seth will work together to make Jane insane: ✅
Any agents that requires long field time benefits from Ceasar. Basically all anomaly and atk agents rn.
@@Zelphyn this video would’ve been 20+ minutes if I went over every agent that benefitted her and all the minute details, instead this video is just for the agents the benefit the most from Caesar in a short summary
I use my C6 Caesar as a solo dps, stunner and support and she hits like Piper’s truck :3
Nekomata finally has a pseudo stunner/support for physical
Caesar is like standard banner dps' enabler in the endgame. She made my s11 actually fun (and strong) to play. Before she was very underwhelming even tho i (unfortunatly) have her m2. However i still think jane is currently the strongest character in the game and the Best pull you could do meta-wise
@@markhui if we are talking strictly meta, then pulling Qingyi and Zhu yuan is the best. Because that team still has the highest overall DPS in the game. And people are still getting faster clears with Zhu yuan over Jane even against physical weak enemies. Zhu yuan and Qingyi together is just broken asf
@@KetteiThe7th_ thats two banner characters so its already big investment and you need to build them too. I feel like jane doesnt even need the team cause of how broken she is.
@@markhuieven tho it takes more investment doesn't make it any less meta
@@KetteiThe7th_it isnt even zhu yuan tbf; its qingyi. Though zhu yuan is very strong in her best team, when another burst dps rolls around qingyi will be one of if not the best stunner to fill the slot since she synergizes so much with burst dpses. Qingyi is just that busted but ppl’s attention are turned towards jane😢
Anomoly will never be top tier meta though. People stare at jane doe's anomoly procs and lose their minds thinking shes the best DPS in the game but the reality is that Anomoly has a delay. First the character needs to apply anomoly, then wait, then apply another anomoly to get a payoff with disorder. Where as a classic stunner+support+DPS just goes in, stuns, off their DPS payload, and win. Anomoly is just a more wonky way to do what a dps+stunner can do with more fluctuation on DPS numbers. consistency always wins out.
as someone who has Ellen, Jane and Solider 11, I see Caesar this as an absolute win
(but I might not get her because I have no polychromes after Jane)
Unfortunate but hey reruns exist for that reason too
Then there's gigachad like me who plays Caesar as on field main DPS
🗿
You did get her weapon at least?
What disks are you using?
C6 Caesar hits like a monster ^^
@@UnusualEcho and it's only 7 pulls to get 6 copies!..just get lucky :')
CEASAR IS MY KING AND I AM HER THRONE 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
Honestly. Thats all valid points. But Zhu Yuan(no matter how people can be bored of her at this point) also benefits from her. The damage buff makes burst better, and complete "No you fucking not" card allows you to not even use assists unless you need your cop to refill ammo...or maybe im just a lover of Parries...and biker girls..who knows.
@@kriso3220 this video is who benefits the “most” not who does Caesar work with. Qingyi is still better for Zhu yuan and Caesar isn’t an upgrade over qingyi
@@KetteiThe7th_ Thats right 👍 And not really a downgrade or not that much. I have Qingyi and (i hope) will have Caesar. It's just changing the strat. Time to give a cyborg girl a little break to not make her boring to play so often hah
@@KetteiThe7th_ im using zhuyuan with her and nicole for now but based on your replies it seems like qingyi is like a must for her 😅 damn i need to pull qingyi too huh
@@FunZenCh Qingyi isn't a must at all. Caesar as the third with Zhu Yuan and Nicole shits on all content.
@@KetteiThe7th_ There are a lot of people who skipped Qingyi so it could be a honorable mention
Hey kettei. After resisting on pulling for Jane for what felt like forever, I was rewarded with winning the 50/50 and the king herself coming home.
Good video, though I have some thoughts:
Corrin: I think Caesar's value is arguably a bit higher since they activate each other's team passive. If you pair Corrin with Qingyi, you're more or less forced to play Rina to activate Corrin's team passive, unless you're going for a more complicated team with another phys unit. Also, I think a Corrin/Qingyi/Caesar team is gonna work wonders if you don't have or don't want to play Rina.
Grace: I think she benefits from Caesar just as much as Jane in a Jane/Seth/Caesar team if you don't have Rina.
I have more examples with the same concept, but you get the gist. Caesar just brings so much versatility to teams for someone like me who can't afford to pull for every banner and are missing many standard S ranks. This allows me to get away with skipping future specialist supports while minimizing the negative effects.
Moving on:
Piper: She pairs well with Caesar, but I really wonder how much Piper fares in the endgame long-term. The new ambush node enemies hit very hard and can mulch through even Caesar's shield if you're too busy spinning.
On-field Caesar Stun: I need to test how effective this is in cases where enemies resist shock but are weak to Phys.
All in all, I have no regrets in pulling for her. She is both waifu and meta. Long may she reign!
The more of these videos come out, the more I am convinced that I should get her.... but Burnice sounds like a lot of fun for a Jane disorder.... and Pulchra... 😔
@@ShOwOba if you prefer burnice then get her, Caesar isn’t a must pull
Bernice is definitely a lot of fun in her trial mission. But shes not that much of an off fielder tbh. She wants a lot field time and so does jane. Not that it doesnt or won't work. But she's definitely not zzz's xiangling
@@kain1799this is exactly why I chose Caesar and won’t get Burnice. Burnice’s field time is very time consuming. I love how Caesar is just in and out but makes a huge impact on the battle field. So good for a Jane and Seth team
@@kain1799Uhm, not true. You only need to switch to burnice if she runs out of fuel state or for ult. And it's highly likely other members can proc burn to enemies with afterburn.
She can be both on and off field
Honestly Casar was what my account needed it.
I started playing on 1.1 but i took a break shortly after ( i didnt even finished the prologue) that i came back after the Jane trailer, you know the one.
i continue playing and really got into it but i realized two things.
-the variety comes from the different team combinations and not from any individual character.
-i needed to focuss my resources
Back in 1.1 i managed to pull Nekomata so that dictated my first team being Nicole, Nekomata and Anby, fortunately i like all three of them, but the problem was the second team.
I liked both Piper and Lucy (i fell for the SoC aesthetic really quick) but i lacked a third member, adding Corin felt like making a lesser version of my first team and i didnt like how Ben felt.
So i finished ch 3 with almost every bit of side content possible being done by my Cunning Hares team and i was starting to feel the burn out, wich prompted me to stop doing more zero hollow. No second team to finish shinyu, just a half level up Piper and Lucy with Ben that i didnt want to level up.
This was also before i got into the subreddits or before the algorithm started to shoving ZZZ content creators on my face.
Then the news of Caesar being next reached my ears and inmidiately stopped pulling for Jane (although i eventually felt into the temptation of going for the 50/50 wich i lost to soldier) because she was everything i needed.
A defender, stunner, buffer that filled the role i was lacking that was also the SoC leader (wich i already had a preference for) and mashed well with the Piper and Lucy that already had some resources invested on, it was perfect.
Now she feels so good to play. Her moves are so satisfying, i love how she throws her shield or spins it like a saw, and her parry feel so good.
Burnice is just gonna put a bow into everything but that sadly means that Lighter, as cool as he is, will be a skip.
i might be hard saving for CAESAR 2 tbh, i cant live without her shields T,T i want two of her for two teams
@@ababilashari9970 play better my friend, you got this
I haven't quite gotten used to playing Caesar enough to say whether or not she's an insane time-saver/damage boost, but I can say that she's absolutely insane in Withering Garden/Inferno Reap. I ran Blitz with Ether Activity 11 on my main account with S11, Caesar, and Lucy and I literally just mashed attack vs. Nineveh, and she couldn't hurt me. I took no damage in that fight. I then played a Jane, Seth, Caesar team on my alt for Inferno Reap and managed to delete one of Nineveh's phases with a 13 million assault.
So, she's definitely really useful with Resonia. Outside of that, I managed to clear the Ether resistant Ambush node stage with my Zhu Yuan team faster than I could clear it with my S11 team. And that was with my Qingyi lacking a Stun engine after I accidentally gave her the Transmorpher. So, I'm not fully sold on any of Caesar's teams that don't have Jane Doe, based on the team's performance outside Hollow Zero as well.
On the topic of Corin, the biggest edge Ceasar has over Qingyi is the physical anomaly build up, Anomaly Mastery Ceasar with Seth's W-Engine is pretty insane, enabling Corin to easily extract the potential of 4-Piece Fanged Metal, and the team can be further boosted by either Rina or Lucy.
I've also tried using Qingyi and Ceasar togheter, which does a lot of damage, but is extremely chaotic and not the most fun to play.
Billy benefits THE MOST w Caesar bc he didn't have teammates that opens his fullest potential.
Her Shields benefits his On-Field playstyle at M6 and prevents you to get hit and loose your M6 stacks and Crounching Mode.
Her ATK buff and Off-Field debuff benefits even more his On-Field potential and if you add Lucy in his team is even BETTER.
Also, the fact that she can be played as a stunner also benefits his Core Passive (100% Ult DMG) making him a Ult monster.
@@ghostskillissue5412 that’s why he’s on the list
@KetteiThe7th_ Ye but I personally think the placing is wrong (Honorable Mentions), she makes him not only more comfortable but also a lot more powerful, the upgrade is night and day compared to other teams.
what about m3 for new players
Nice vid, Kettei, loved the bgm throughout too. Caesar king seems really fun but the only team I could use her in already has koleda and her w engine so I’m skipping for now. This game is not making it easy though. I managed to get her w engine in 20 pulls whilst trying to get piper’s. 😭 I’m tryna stay strong for burnice but man is it annoying to know that w engine is just gonna sit there collecting dust until hopefully the next limited def unit can make good use of it.
@@Alreaxdy just use it on Ben or Seth, the game is telling you to now build them!
ellen and caesar was a combo i hadn't even thought of originally but they do go together really well
But huge DPS loss. She better with Jane Doe.
@@iflgames3245how's it a dps loss?
@@iflgames3245 Ellen with Caesar isn’t a DPS loss, it’s on par with Ellen and Qingyi
yup i was running king-jane-seth since the king release and i just need this video to tell me that im using it right, guess i am a "true" gamer afterall
Caesar replaces Soukaku in an Ellen team because they share attack buffs. Caesar really needs to parry in order to actually daze enemies and she also has to either waste energy or get to the end of her attack string to initiate a chain attack. Lycaon provides different damage multipliers and with Caesar, he can safely hardswap during his long animations to not waste on fielding. Unskippable Animation time really hurts Soukaku, she’s probably the clunkiest support in the game even if she provides powerful buffs.
Also Disk drives also don’t really factor in. Swing Jazz isn’t locked to supports so Lycaon can use it if you just want to buff Ellen and you still need to actually Chain attack to activate it.
Sadly I lost my 50/50 and don't have a lot of polychrome right now to get Caesar
I hope you can still manage to get her!
@@KetteiThe7th_ same since she can help my Ellen team
Same boat as you. I'll probably just use my guarantee on Burnice.
Skipped Jane, Skipped qingyi, and still lost the 50/50 to Neko afer hitting pity...Which was kinda best case scenario since i didn't have her.
Went to pity again just for Caeser. 🗿
As a SnS main in MH, there was no way she's WASN'T coming home!
💪
2:30 it's gonna get even better when Burnice comes out, Jane - Caesar - Burnice with the Sons of Calydon Bangboo is going to be an absolutely insane team. And then Jane is getting ANOTHER Anomaly unit to pair with in 1.3, she just keeps winning. Also Caesar is a really great partner with Zhu Yuan if you weren't able to get Qingyi, with Zhu Yuan + Caesar + Lucy being the team.
@@hallyuniverse yea Caesar is good for Zhu yuan but this video was for the characters that benefit the “most” from Caesar and Caesar is a disgrace for Zhu yuan compress to Qingyi
By far the best pull for me, her playstyle, versatility, and design. Chef's kiss 💋
as enemies gets difficult and difficult (ambush node), caesar’s interruption resistance cannot be overlooked, literally the enemies’ attack intervals are so short it’s hard to put any dps between dodges
eh idk man, i beat disputed and ambush node with all A ranks, and seth and ben werent even one of them
@@KetteiThe7th_ missed the point, interruption resistance
@@tanaka-kun6388 no I didn’t miss your point lol, I’m saying that it’s not as important as you think. It’s nice QoL but not a necessity to clear the game at all. This game is still super easy
i would be all out for the ellen team buff if i actually had her 🗣🗣
spending a shitton of polychrome on regular master tapes before i understood how the gacha actually worked hits different
Caesar does wonders for Ellen Joe, but there is still a huge problem with her team...
Soukaku's new VA still remains a very noticeable debuff to the team composition
Use JP
I built my Caesar to be fully support with 4p jazz. With my Lucy Ex-spec on, the total buffs had looking at funny big numbers on my S11 (nearing 6000 total ATK) outside of hollow zero. Caesar is just bonkers for my fire team.
The new set for Caesar gives the same amount of dmg to s11 and a bigger shield so you might want to farm that for her too!
@KetteiThe7th_ I'm workin' on it! ^_^
I also lucked on her sig engine. Th3 numbers I have rn is Lucy and Caesar still not at full build. I'm expecting to see even bigger once I get them both up to spec
She's so good for everyone. My biggets issue with Zhu C1 was that I when I had a lot of blasts to unleash, she would often be interrupted from getting hit but now the shield situation covers that nicely, on top of ATK and daze utility. King is too good.
Qingyi is still better for Zhu yuan, and Zhu yuan shouldn’t be getting hit until Qingyi stuns them for her. But if you don’t have Qingyi then Ceasar is a fine 2nd for her
@@KetteiThe7th_ also Zhu Yuan do a lot auto dodge during combos, is impossible to zhu yuan take damage lmao
Yellow Anby, Caesar, Lucy all day. Plus I have gotten yellow Anby almost every time I’ve failed the 50/50 so I have c5 lol. I would say the Seth, Jane, Caesar comb doesn’t work great because Jane mostly scales off anomaly. Generally speaking Caesar pairs with non burst dps, which is most of them aside from Zhu yuan.
I’ll likely end up with 3 teams in this order for flexibility. S11, Caesar, Lucy. Zhu, qingyi, Nicole. Jane, Seth, burnice. Then I’m done shilling for a long time and will save up unless someone really cool comes along or I want to start mindscaping one on their repeats.
The main reason i cant justify Ceaser is because:
1. I got M1W1 Qingyi so my needs for stunners is practically zero
2. I need Burnice
3. Im actually kinda behind on building my agents atm, especially since my Ellen is getting hard countered atm so I now need to start raising Corin and Rina up after Burnice prefarming is done.
Man im glad 1.3 is a skip so I can catch up-
The issue with soldier 11 is she's mediocre as a main DPS. Even with ceaser soldier 11 will only do slightly below the damage an ether team would bring before qingyi was released. That's why the best team for soldier 11 is > S11+ ceaser+pipper as S11 is only good for building fire anomoly so pipper can apply disorder. It's still going to be a while before a fire team can honestly do some serious damage as it's currently being held back by soldier 11.
As for corin, I would say it's only really an option to build a corin and waste reasources if a player has the worst luck in the game and have a C6 corin collecting dust. A C6 corin is a walmart 5 star that can carry just fine. It won't be ether damage, it won't be ice damage, it wont be fire damage, but it will carry.
not everyone plays for strictly meta man, if their favorite character is corin or s11, then caesar is great for them. Also theres literally videos of m0 s11 players solo clearing shiyu defense 7 in the recommended 2:30 mark for one side, theres billy mains solo clearing EVERYTHING in the game with S ranks too, so the game genuinely isnt hard enough to even think about full meta rn, and the game proabbly wont get much harder for a long time. i beat all of shiyu and the new ambush node with A ranks only and had like over a minute to spare for both sides of shiyu. Until the game gets harder then playing for meta strictly just doesnt matter
You forgot to mention that caesar helps activate corin's fanged metal. When you use qingyi corin, you only have piper/jane to help activate fanged metal.
With caesar you can go caesar-corin-rina/lucy too
You would run rina last slot for qingyi corin, also the overall DPS is still pretty much identical to the Caesar team especially if Rina is m1
yeah I run rina as last, but problem is I lose the fanged metal buff
My M6 corin will rule the world when i finally get caesar
Edit: i lost to koleda🤡🤡🤡
I’m skipping only because I know I won’t have enough polychromes. I’m sorry Caesar, I failed you.
I'm glad I won 50/50 on her, she is very good and her kit reminds me of Zhongli.
Im putting Ceasar with her original team members thats how i play the game with their own sqaud
I do the same
I pulled Caesar and her W-engine purely for Nekomata (I wasn't planning on pulling her signature, but Caesar blessed me). Playing Nekomata has never felt this good for me.
I'm also using Nicole in this team, but I'm considering replacing her with M0 Lucy. I'm not sure if it's worth it, unfortunately.
M2 Lucy might be worth
For Ellen, I wonder how Caesar/Soukaku compares to Lyacon/Caesar. More on-field ice buildup, you get Lyacons shred and stun window multiplier and Caesars attack buff, instead of two attack buffs stacked on top of each other.
I've seen people make a case for Burnice over Caesar in S11 teams, and just...no. Piper however, I'd be suprised if Caesar is the better in-slot here. Guess we'll see.
On paper Caesar+Soukaku is much better, like...MUCH better in terms of DPS. But the only actual in game test I've seen (I don't own Lycaon so couldn't do the practical test sadly) has the Caesar+Lycaon as the fastest Ellen Clears Edit: Whatever combination you use Caesar is an upgrade on the swapped out unit on paper and on that one practical test I have seen but not by more than I think 5-10 seconds
@@CombatPandaZenlessZoneZeroActually, Lycaon+Caesar seems to be better currently. Too much atk buffs give diminishing returns, and Lycaon's Ice Res debuffs and stun multipliers make him the better pick
Also, a big problem with Soukaku are her extremely long animations. Speedrunners have ditched her since 1.0 for M1 Rina because despise having really good buffs, she just takes too much field time to apply them and actually makes your Shiyu rotations slower
@@Agni_- Yeah..thats what I said..the in game test I have seen has Caesar + Lycaon as best
I pulled for her in preparation for an unstoppable Miyabi team 🔥
Why does no one talk about Zhu Yuan in these videos? It's like ppl are forgetting she exists or that not everyone has Chingyi. I'm still running Anby with Zhu Yuan. So it'd be nice to hear insight from others as to whether Caesar would be a worth upgrade from Anby.
ive had to answer this multiple times now in this comment section, but zhu yuan does benefit from caesar but this video is who benefits the "most" not who benefits at all. If i made the video on who benefits from caesar in general it would be almost the entire roster of characters cause caesar is just that good. Caesar is good with zhu yuan but shes a sidegrade for zhu yuan not the best. And again this video is specifically for the characters caesar is best with not a sidegrade
Lost my 50/50 in Jane doe banner,got Caesar ,trying my hardest to get her w-engine now
@@arthurforni8957 good luck!
is sons of caledon officially the faction with most supports we have caesar, lucy, burnice is offield and now ligher is a stun.
Yep!
As a neko main i can firmly say, No character benefits from Caesar more than Neko does; Neko was the only S rank in the entire game who did not have a team prior to Caesar.
Neko's best team was with Anby and Nicole; 2 units who have literally zero synergy with her.
Caesar saved her.
Who are you running in your third spot now?
@@timofaust1315 I'm alternating between using either lucy or Piper, stilling testing both of those options to see which i prefer and which ends up being better.
Piper currently feels a lot better because she can easily get assaults to max out Neko's addiction passive however the main advantage with lucy is the fact that quick assists activate Neko's core passive (the attack buff from lucy feels rather redundant with Caesar's massive attack buff) so you struggle to buff her during stun windows without a support.
The ideal 3rd character would be Piper with a built in Quick assist but that doesn't exist unfortunately.
I’m waiting to get neko I have her w engine but no neko
Same my ceaser, Lucy, and nekomata team is so fun to play
Of all characters, I didn't want neko. Now I have neko c1 so... Might as well take advantage of it and go full berserk with Neko, Jane and Caesar.
I hope we can finally start seeing your actual account since you been waiting forever to pull a good unit
Oh I mostly show others gameplay to help advertise for them lol. Most of the clips I show are from people much smaller than me, so I try to show them off and maybe some people will check them out and hey they might even get a few subs from it too lol
@@KetteiThe7th_ show me off brother lol
Bet
What’s your thoughts on Lighter being a stunner 😢
@@mikeymishima7167 I’ll make a video on it soon
@@KetteiThe7th_ bet!!!!!🔥🔥🔥ima have some food ready for that vid 😎
For a physical team, should I build first Nekomata (w her engine) or Piper? Got Caesar
@@ViniciusFigueiredo19 piper is easier to use and build, neko takes more investment to get similar clears. But neko can also have more skill expression. Comes down to who you prefer imo
@@KetteiThe7th_ makes sense, I probably should focus on Piper since I don't have an anomaly team rn
I was looking to get the 10% crit rate cinema for anton and got her first pull. I might just wait for a good A rank w engine otherwise I am using the fossil stun engine
“There is no must-pull in ZZZ”
What about Bangboos tho?
@@davidcassidy602 I wish I could pull every bangboo
Bangboos aren't limited, fortunately, so no FOMO there
got caesar coz i lost qingyi... i really liked that police
@@dalhaval283 u liked the
CLANK CLANK CLANK… ?
Tldr Aside from ellen and Zhu yuan, Caesar is core in everyteam.
Eh for now, once they add 2-3 limited supports that won’t be the case anymore and she’ll become like zhongli a comfort pick
@@KetteiThe7th_ her shield isn't the big thing, the big is the interupt res, every other dps aside ellen and Zhu needs that. Factoring in the 1k atk buff + 25% dmg amp, S11 and Neko along with all A rank dps aside from billy at m6, has shit and giggle for base line free stat and scaling compare to Billy, Ellen and Zhu yuan, she core because not only does she allow to actually get the dmg out, she also give them enough stat to actually do dmg.
@@yukinohazuki9918Interrupt res only matters to enemies that can't 1 or 2 shot Ceasar's shield. You can still see people with ceasar doing dodges and assists in ambush node.
Jane and Billy also does not need her since they like to dodge.
@@genoside5138 yeah But Jane + Caesar get her the atk she need + dmg% she want allowing her to go Pen 5 due to the amount of dmg% and atk she give. + Allowing Jane to make mistakes and tanky
@@yukinohazuki9918 I assume you not have seen vids where Jane soloed shiyu and 11/11 nineveh.
Again not needed. The buffs can be obtained with other current supp(although lesser) and with future supp.
The shield is there for mistakes, but you still want to dodge with Jane most of the time as it refills her passion state + her engine requires you to dodge.
Isn't Ellen, Lycaon/Qingyi and Caesar a better comp than the team with Soukaku 'tho _since Caesar and Soukaku give the same type of buff, making it overinvestment in a single stat buff?
Soukaku should still be overall better in terms of raw DPS, cause Soukaku can shred ice resistance too and buff dmg%
@KetteiThe7th_ so doesn't Lycaon 'tho_ but gotcha
Well like gives a stun dmg multiplier of 35% which is around 15-25% tru dmg increase depending on the enemy your fighting, and he shreds resistance
But soukaku buffs dmg% herself and with the 4pc support set, can give 1,000 attack and shred ice resistance. So she still overall will beat out Lyacon in terms of just pure raw dmg increase but I believe Lyacon can probably give you faster clear times because his animations are such much shorter than Soukaku and Soukaku takes ramp up time to get her buffs going.
Overall they probably perform very similar in terms of actual clear time and I wouldn’t be shocked if you can clear faster with Lyacon
the gooners
Damn
I lost my 50/50 now I have m2 koleda 😫
Damn
@@KetteiThe7th_ I need a second opinion should I go for Caesar or wait for burnice I like burnice gameplay and style better btw lol
@@Skyking212 if you like burnice go for her. Ima make a lot of burnice videos cause I’m a massive simp
@@KetteiThe7th_ okay thanks 😎
Blows my mind that anyone in their right mind would skip Caesar lmao
@@BuddyChy I don’t understand how lol, she’s not a must pull just a strong agent. Future supports are going to easily eclipse her buffs and she’s going to become an agent that just versatile and good. But future supports will just buff more than she does
@@KetteiThe7th_ sorry I know I’m new to ZZZ and gachas in general, but I’m trying to just have fun out here and I can’t imagine not being able to play with Caesar. Her gameplay is right up my alley. She’s so badass.
So to be clear, I’m not coming from a place of meta and min maxing. I couldn’t care less about power creep right now. I also started late so I missed out on Ellen, Zhu Yuan, Qingyi, AND Jane. I don’t even have all the agents that launched with the game nor do I have many mindscapes to speak of aside from M6 Seth and M4 Anby. I’m planning on skipping Burnice for Yanagi too.
Edit: no offense, but I will think less of anyone who skips Caesar on principle. Just personal thing for me. I still respect people choices but I can’t help but see people differently for it. But it’s really not that serious lol I look forward to enjoying and interacting with the ZZZ community. GREAT VID BTW!
You should get you favorite characters first always and if you like Caesar then I’m happy you got her!
So like… I’m no longer him…
LOL
Billy 👍👍
Cesar is good right now especially at E0 but once we get more units her value dwindles a bit but she will always be a solid pick as a filler for late game 2 nd teams mark my word
@@lorenzo9676 yea just like zhongli
I won’t be pulling her cause I’m f2p…
…but now I’m logged into my giga chad whale account and pulled her M2 + engine 😎
LOL
Ceasar is strong, but I don't think its the right pull for me, seeing as she isn't great with ellen and my jane team is already clearing just fine
@@WiffleWaffIe now waffle did you not watch the video lol. Caesar is really good with Ellen
Oops I usually put comments before I watch the video lol(still skipping ceasar)
piper > jane doe 3:29
(sunk cost fallacy)
@@Bridber ay good clear with piper man I enjoyed watching it!
@@KetteiThe7th_ now i gotta do the new ambush node but my pc broke lol
Ouch…
Ceazer is simply a bad class, boring, and no unique personality id personality skip
How is she bad?
@@KetteiThe7th_ didnt mean bad its just a skill issue if you need to use her passive just use jane does dodge😭
@@KetteiThe7th_ the class is just for people who cant parry or dodge it’s like the ultrakill devs said “ why would I need to block when I could just parry?”
Hmm I think you can say that for some characters but not all.
Few examples:
1. Ellen really doesn’t need to dodge out of her last basic attack or her DPS plummets
2. Piper really would prefer to continue to spin rather than dodge out of her EX special
3. Corin when she has full energy doesn’t want to dodge either
4. S11 being able to continue to do DPS 100% of the time while not having to dodge is massive for her
Those are just a few examples, some characters just really don’t want to dodge if they don’t have too and Caesar allows these characters to not have to dodge all the time which increases their overall DPS, and Caesar also buffs enough to justify it aswell
@@KetteiThe7th_ then again for those classes you rotate with your other person thats why im going for burn because she stands out longer plus some classes have amazing I-frames like jane, burn, nicole piper don’t have I frames technically but as long as you hit them it interrupts them thats why i lik seth because he makes big enimies get stunned