Fuji X-Pro2 real-world hands on review
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- A hands-on field test and review of the Fuji X-Pro2 with samples and demos.
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Just bought this camera in 2023 and immediately came to your channel for the tips! Nicely done.
Always nice to read that viewers find my videos helpful, thanks for commenting.
The best in the business. Always such a helpful review and guide. Please keep up this style of video.
I appreciate your kind words and encouragement. I will continue to post videos in this style.
It's amazing how balanced this review is. Really appreciate the mix of review/critic/feature analysis you make, exposing both the good and the bad, but also being extremely informative. Thanks a lot!
It was a pleasure to read your kind words, thanks for commenting.
I learned more about my X-Pro2's settings watching your video than the last 8 video reviews I've seen combined. Comprehensive and to the point. Simply awesome.
Thank you, that's very kind of you to take the time to comment.
Completely wrong in the first sentence. The camera is beautifully designed
My apologies, I stand corrected, thanks for commenting.
***** I was only giving my opinion in a funny way haha! If you don't like the look then you are entitled to think that :)
Thanks for the clarification - however at this point, you're one of several viewers to make the same comment. I could be wrong ... :-)
you are buddy -
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and it is a beauty in my eyes. Still hanging on to my X Pro 1 but will probably get the 2 eventually.
This by far the most thoroughly detailed review for the X-Pro2 on YT. Awesome job you've done there sir.
That is very kind of you to say, thanks for commenting.
Finally, someone not afraid to point out the imperfections of this camera. Very fair and comprehensive review. Thank you.
Thanks for the kind words - I try to be honest and present cameras as I experience them. Although admittedly when I find something that's negative (like the focus issue here) I do make sure that I've understood the camera properly, and demonstrate the problem clearly for my viewers.
As an addendum here, Fuji has released a firmware upgrade to address this issue, and I didn't experience the same issue shooting with the X-T2.
Sir, you are an absolutely phenomenal source of information. I thought my hybrid viewfinder was defective because it’s would never display that little electronic box down in the right lower corner while focusing. It turns out that my camera was set to zone focusing instead of the single point autofocus mode. After listening to your detailed review. I switched from zone focusing back to the single point autofocus mode. Guess what, my little grey hybrid box in the right lower corner came back!
All I could say was Wow, and Yippee!!
Thank you so very much 😁
It's always nice to get a pleasant note from a viewer, and knowing that I've helped solve a problem. Thanks for commenting.
I didt expect this to be a very detailed in depth review. so good!
I appreciate the kind words, thank you!
Absolutely fantastic review of the camera! I loved the images that you came up with and I very much enjoyed the well balanced review. Thank you for this.
It was a pleasure to read your kind words, thank you very much.
What can I say, another precise and very informative review. Simply done, enjoyed immensely.
I can say "thanks!". I appreciate your kind words, thanks for watching.
I truly like your style of review. You tell me everything I could possibly want to know, in a way that is pleasant and fun to listen to; sometimes, I even take notes!
+Rudy Leue That is very kind of you to say, thanks for taking the time to comment.
Killer review. Attention to detail delivered in a clear manner. Thanks!
Thank you so much for taking the time to post such a nice comment, appreciated!
Excellent review - not many people show the details of the camera menu and button functions like you have. It's very useful for prospective purchasers!
It's always nice to hear from a viewer who appreciates my work, thanks for commenting.
Clear, well-written. Coming from an all-manual camera I found your video / narrative the most helpful. Cheers!
Thank you, I appreciate the kind words.
Hi Maarten
Another excellent review. I just purchased this camera and I love it. keep up the good work as you are the one we all listen to.
Thank you for your heartening praise - appreciated. I'll do my best to meet your expectations.
About to go check out this camera in the store - it was really helpful to watch your video beforehand. The only review I've seen so far that explains all of the various settings and features in an organized and succinct manner. Thanks!
That’s very kind of you to say, thanks. It’s always great to know my videos are useful.
As usual you are right on the button and your productive but entertaining way of delivery is (as you would call it) ...much appreciated. Must say that I'm holding out for the XT1 successor but if it doesn't happen soon....
Thank you, your kind words are appreciated. There do seem to be Fuji announcements on the horizon, according to fujirumours. Who knows?
Great video as always Maarten, I love the work you and Matt from Art of the Image post on youtube. Just purchased my X-Pro 2 with the 35mm F2 lens to start with and absolutely love the camera, images are unbelievable. I had the X-T1 but thought the range finder style would be an interesting change, so glad I did.
Thanks for taking the time to comment - I always appreciate hearing from viewers. Glad to hear I helped you make your decision.
I think I have watched every review of the X-Pro 2 before and after buying one. I have to say yours is the most comprehensive , unbiased and educational of ALL of them. Great job. I'm subscribing to your channel and anxiously await your next video.By the way, your style reminds me of Rick Steves, the travel guy, who I am also a big fan of. Excellent review!
Thank you so very much for your extraordinary praise and kind words - they're much appreciated. I'm a fan of Rick's also - maybe he's rubbing off on me.
Thank you for a very useful review. The detail you went into is missing in so many other reviews I've read/seen.
That's very kind of you to say, thanks for commenting.
The best review of Fuji X-Pro 2 on TH-cam !! Enough Said :-)
Wow, thanks for the appreciative comment.
Good video Maarten, informative as always.
Your kind words are always appreciated. Thanks for watching.
always the best reviewer. great job!
Thanks for your kind words, appreciated.
Really great review. Thank you so much.
I appreciate the kind words, thanks for taking the time to comment.
What a great, to-the-point, no nonsense review.
Thanks, that's exactly what I was going for. I appreciate your kind words.
Really nice review. I really like your no nonsense style. Keep up the good work.
I appreciate that, always nice to read kind words from a viewer.
Another awesome review by MH!
That's very kind, thanks for commenting.
super useful although I knew most of the features already. u always find something new to try and learn.
Thanks for the kind words, always nice to hear that my videos have provided useful information.
Hello sir, many important detail that you point out will be great help while choosing the X-body.Thank you!
Very kind of you to say, thanks for commenting.
gran review! saludos desde Argentina!
Gracias por las amables palabras, aprecio su comentario. Saludos desde Canadá
Great review here, thank you.
Thanks for the kind words, it's my pleasure.
Thanks. Great walkthrough. Hey, I was quickly trying out the X-Pro2 in store the other day, and I found the black levels of the EVF to be kind of washed out. Coming from an X-E1 this seemed a bit odd. Does this has anything to do with the performance modes you were mentioning? Or are the black levels washed out due to the hybrid design or something?
Hey, thanks for watching - always nice to see familiar faces. I didn't compare EVF displays between performance levels ... there are EVF brightness and colour adjustments. I actually thought that both colour and contrast were good.
+Maarten Heilbron OK. It was just my immediate impression. The guy in the shop was eager to close the shop, so I felt a bit stressed. I will check it out in store again, on a slow morning or something. :)
Please keep me (and the other viewers) posted on your impressions.
+Maarten Heilbron I went to the store again today, and tested out the EVF screen head to head between the X-Pro2, X-E1, X-T1. The display in The X-Pro2 indeed appears to struggle with washed out black levels and dark colours, compared to both the several years old X-E1, and the X-T1. The black levels and dark colour representation on the X-T1's EVF is just phenomenal. The old X-E1 also shows impressive dark colours and black reproduction. My guess is that the EVF display in the X-Pro2 had to be much thinner, and perhaps smaller, in order for it to work as a hybrid display, forcing Fujifilm to select a display of lower colour quality. I tried changing the EVF brightness but that affected the image as a whole. It looks more like a backlit LCD, than a modern OLED. Increasing the overall brightness thus is increasing the milky brightness of the blacks in a not that flattering fashion.
There is the possibility that the unit was faulty, but I don't think so.
Thanks for doing that research - I appreciate the additional information on this topic.
best review yet, very good info
I appreciate your kind words, thank you.
Great review!
I appreciate the kind words, thanks.
Thanks again, Maarten (Morten in Norwegian) for another well presented and very precise review of another one of FujiFilm's great cameras. So much information at once, I have to watch this several times, stopping sometimes to check the menues in my camera, etc. etc.
I do actually own 2 different X-Pro2's - one in stylish Graphite Edidion with matching XF23mm f/2 and the other i normal black. Love those cameras!!
Best regards from Norway!
Thanks for the kind words. Please say hello to all my friends in Norway. Note that my name (and in fact anyone's name) does not change in Norway, it's always Maarten. Just as your name does not change to Melvin in Canada.
I know everything you say, but I love watching your videos.
God bless you
Thanks for watching, so glad to hear you enjoy my content.
Great - cheers Maarten.
Thank you, it's always a pleasure to read your kind words.
Loved the style of this review - watched 2022.
Thanks, always a pleasure to read kind words.
Holy smokes! This review is like a video users' manual. Should be mandatory viewing for owners as well as for potential buyers. I've had my X-Pro2 for over a year and this cleared up mysteries I've had all that time. What's more, all your reviews are like this. I watched the EX-3 review and it answered questions available nowhere else. Fujifilm should pay you a commission.
Wow - thanks so much for the kind words, I really appreciate your comments.
Another great video!!!
Thanks for your kind comment
Excellent review, the best I have watched so far for the X-Pro 2. Particularly appreciate your explanation about the OVF, including screenshot of the frame which can be seen with the 35mm lens mounted on the camera. Same is missing in all the other reviews whereas OVF is THE difference between X-Pro 2 and all other cameras on the market!
That's very kind of you to say, thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts.
Another Excellent review Thank you !
that X factor in the Image quality was what leica always had over the others, I think these modern fuji's have it too
The end result encourages you to shoot & print more , they have that solid feel and are a joy to use
recently i bought a Samsung NX3000 , just to see if i liked Tilt screens, it was the cheapest option to test my interest ( A$299)
but i must say i'm surprised by the image quality & pocket ability of this little toy. also exploring the excellent remote camera control a 7" tablet gives via wi-fi on these cameras , modern tech is so usable.
Keep up the stellar job.
It's my pleasure, thanks for taking the time to comment. X-factor is a good way to describe the affinity that Fuji provides and the way they inspire photographers. I didn't have the chance to review the NX3000, and now Samsung seems to have left the camera business. Thanks for the notes on it.
Another great review! I want to get either the xpro2 or the xt2. I tested them on photokina but are not quite sure. I love the fact that the VF is on the corner so the nose does not get in the way of shooting. On the other hand, the VF of the XT2 is a bit larger. I see that you also have glasses. Do you find it dificult do see through the VF with glasses on or is it perfectly fine? Also can you compare it to the XT2 VF from personal experience?
Thank you - it's always a pleasure to read comments from a happy viewer. Of the two, overall I much prefer the X-T2 as a camera, particularly as I shoot video as well as stills.
Although it means adjusting the diopter, I shoot both with and without my glasses - and both are good options. But yes, if that's the only consideration, I do prefer to have the viewfinder on the side (or a screen that rotates in fully). However, the X-Pro2's hybrid viewfinder is a bit clunky, and I prefer the EVF image in the X-T2.
Hope this helps.
This info is so great. I would love to see an updated review/overview with the latest update. Is that something you would consider doing?
Thanks for the kind words, always appreciated. At this point, I don't think I'll go back to the X-Pro2, as my editorial schedule is already pretty crowded with new models.
thank you for your video. Yeserday I jumped in fuji world. I got a Fuji Xpro2 and now I'm studying this fantastic camera. I have a question: can I control shutter speed and aperture from rear and front dials if my lens has aperture ring (xf 16-55 2.8)? I can control S.S. selecting T on top S.S. dial but what about aperture? Thank you
It's my pleasure. Essentially, no - shutter speed is controlled by the shutter dial (although you can make small adjustments with the back dial) aperture with the lens ring.
I love your voice. It sounds like the commentary for documentary. Convincing voice. Of course, I love the content of your video most.
Those are all very kind comments, thanks for taking the time to write.
+Maarten Heilbron I am a current user of X-e1. I have been waiting for X-t2 for some time. X-pro2 is too pricy and bulky for me. also the hybrid view finder is not useful for me. I just need EVF
Understood.
i like the way you review..
That's very kind of you to say, thanks!
just what I've been searching for. Please make more and go through everything on the menu, I'll subscribe, The XP2 has a a mind of its own it seems. Not that hard, just tricky. Wish the book was more detailed. TY
That's very kind of you to say, thanks for commenting. I have returned the XPro2 to Fuji, and I'm quite overloaded with interesting projects as well as other cameras - but I'll see what I can do. Everything on the menu is a lot to think about - but if you can provide a few specific features, I'll give it a shot.
what camera did you use to film this with? the quality is so nice!
We used a Sony A6300 and A6000 - more behind the scenes details on my blog: heilbron.com/fuji-xpro2/
2 years later picked it up used $800 US with a couple of batteries. Was considering a ex-3 to replace my ex-1 but decided on spending just a little more for this body, so far I love it! Thanks for your review I was able to find things after seeing this the grid and consider this review my manual. Did the firmware 5.0 great I can shoot some 4k if needed.
Sounds like you've found a solution that works for you, thanks for checking in.
I've seen a lot of reviews. Yours is the best Mr. Heilbron. Very informative. You've earned my subscription. I want to buy the xpro2 over the xt2 but I have doubts because of the x-pro2 's EVF... I'm a left eye shooter and a glass wearer as well. I've read in some places that used with glasses on one might not see ALL the viewfinder image because of the eye relief not being as big as the xt2 for instance. Since you are a glass wearer yourself did you encounter that issue when shooting the xpro2?
Thank you for the kind words. I usually take my glasses off when using the viewfinder, and unless you do that you may not see all the edges of the image.
Another practicable review. Thanks
I appreciate the kind and innovative words. Thanks!
Oops, I meant practical :-)
I was more impressed when I thought you'd made up a new word - for me (English is my second language) English is the most wonderful language, as it's possible to make up new words from fragments of others and everyone knows immediately exactly what you mean. So, don't be surprised if you start hearing your new word in my videos!
All that in 16 minutes?? Absolutely, the most comprehensive video review I have seen of this camera. I have owned this for over 3 months and it is a bit frustrating when I see reviews that bury the lead about what really makes this standout in a crowd. The best of both world indeed with the multitude of VF options (EVF or OVF + ERF), Dual Card, Build....and you even touched the App! Kudos!
Perhaps I am missing it but where is the download link for Fuji's Focus Guide (PDF)? Thanks!
It is (now) in the description. Thanks for catching that - I overlooked that detail when I posted.
fujifilm-x.com/af/en/index.html
And thank you for the kind words, that's really appreciated.
+Maarten Heilbron Awesome! You don't only have a subscriber here but I just bookmarked your page as I am looking forward to checking out your takes on more!
It's a good time to subscribe - lots of interesting stuff in the pipeline at the moment. Very busy writing, shooting and editing.
Great review, as always. I like the way you present a lot. TCS TV my second favourite photo channel. ☺ I will wait for mine a few years, the X-pro1 suits me just fine for now. It is a bummer that Fuji sent you the oldest lens in the lineup, the 35mm 1.4 instead of the newer 2.0... I think It would have made a considerable difference in focusing ☺
Cheers, Martin
That's very kind of you to say, thanks for taking the time to comment. Yes, the lens might have been a consideration, but both lenses exhibited the same performance. And I noticed it more on the 50-140. I'd be trying to focus on a flower (not just in my studio, but out at a park) and it just had a terrible time.
I want to ask......which one better overall between fuji xt-10, sony a6300 and nikon d7000? or there others that better than all that but have similiar price range? im still newbie and want to learn photography. Thats why my first gear really important for me. Thanks for you video ^v^
It's my pleasure, always nice to hear that my videos are of interest. According to your needs, your style, your hands or your wallet - they could all be great choices, particularly if it's your first camera. Unless you're stuck on the APS-C sensor size, I'd also consider the Panasonic G7.
I had had the Fuji XPro2 now for 2 months. I have the new 35mm f2 and one of the best lenses made , the Fuji 16mm f1.4. Overall my fav camera over the Canon 6D, Olympus EM1,and the Pentax K5. Not sure how some people are not fussy over the looks as I think it looks awesome. My pictures are on par with my Canon 6D and with alot less bulk to carry around. I preferred the XPro2 over the Sony A7II and the Sony A6300. Some people are hung up over video yet 1080 P at 60fps is good enough for 99% of any camera user. Not to mention you will get no service from Sony and Fuji doesn't have overheating issues.
Those are all excellent reasons to choose the X-Pro2 - thanks for taking the time to add those thoughts.
Very thorough review! How do you get all your cameras to make the reviews, do you buy them and then send them back?
Also, I would like to know what your personal camera is at the moment, and what are your favorite lenses for that camera?
Thanks, I do my best to give viewers a good sense of how the camera works - which I find is as important as the picture quality. The cameras (although I do occasionally buy one) are on loan from the manufacturers. At the moment I'm personally shooting with a Sony A6300 with the 16-70 Zeiss lens. But as I nearly always have another camera or two around, it doesn't get very much of a workout.
Thanks for answering! I also have the a6300, great little camera :)
Yes, except for the overheating ...
ah marten im torn on whether i should get the xpro2 or x100t, i shoot mostly street photography, they both seem great
Let your wallet and your sense of style be your guide. They're both excellent choices. The X-100T is a little limited with a single focal length integrated lens, but that makes it small and less conspicuous.
you killed this review. (that's good btw...)
Thanks, I appreciate the kind words and the clarification.
Very good review, I bought camera today and watch movie after.. I now cant wait to get it.. Thanks to this video I subbed
And just to add.. I never bought this camera to be a 4k or 1080p video camera... For me they could spent more time on other things and removed that video all along. New firmware probably fixed the focus issues but IDK if Xpro2 got same custom menu as XT-2 for continuous AF. Do you have info on this?
Personally, I'm loving the video features, which are finally sufficient that I can do some real work with it - I've done a lot of shooting since it arrived. I don't know if that's now a feature of the X-Pro2.
***** I got D750 for this in case I need long clips and stable recording. Some people might love this but I bought camera 110% because of its stillimages 👍 I cant see reason why not getting XT2 if movie is a part of the work.
Thanks for your thoughts.
You're welcome. Keep making good videos :)
Love mine, Sold A7R for X Pro 1
An interesting transition.
Does anyone know if there is a half case for this camera that doesn’t add too much height?
Did you check on AliBaba?
More comprehensive review with the best overview of features and shooting experience. Someone is offering to trade me an X-Pro 2 for my old 6D and I may have to take them up on it.
Thanks for the kind words.
Thank you for a good review.
Although, I do want the x-pro3 to be a very capable video camera as well !
Always my pleasure, thanks for the kind words. Let's see what the future brings.
Nice guy. Nice review, thank you.
I appreciate the kind words, thanks!
Hi, if u have to choose between xt1 w 16mm1.4 and xpro2 for the same amount $1100, which one is better?this will be my first mirrorless and first fuji coming from nikkon
I would take the X-Pro2 - Fuji did make some significant enhancements to the focus engine.
thank you
always happy to help
Nice & Thanks 🙂
Thanks, appreciate the kind words.
i'm glad xpro2 doesn't have articulated screen. My biggest issue is that Iso dial is not weather sealed. Fujis Application on Iphone needs huge improvement.
Thanks for your comments, I would be interested to understand the benefits of a non-articulated screen.
***** I justify it like this. Hinges are bad quality. (some Panasonics had springs inside and plastic elements) in 5 years they brake no matter if you are using them. You can easily bend sony a7s flip screen and if you drop it screen is the first thing to brake. Issue with dust. You can connect iphone with your camera. Many a7 users do anyway and we can take as many photos in any awkward position ;) Touch screen is not a good idea either. Look how bad they are on Nikon. If something, I would implement is SSD inside. I would Ditch all the connectors, Speedup entire process of saving. Maybe one USB-c inside and connect what ever you want. ;)
Thanks, I had not considered all of those issues. And those are some excellent suggestions.
+procekim did you try tiltable touchscreen on premium Olympus cameras? They work quite well. I have no issues with my already aging E-M5...
I never owned Olympus camera. I like the pro 2 as i do not have flip, touch screen. If you anyone is amateur photographer for them it is easier to look touch and flip. Basically idiot proof. I like also the fact there is not a brand name. Like the others have.
great video thanks, I just bought Fuji x pro2 to take some nice pics. I love long exposure photography and I am trying to learn something. When I have done some long exp I noticed that I have many hot pixels all over the frame (maybe 100000 I don’t know). (exposure time 30-180 sn). Did you notice this kind of problem?
Thanks for the kind words. I didn't try long exposures, but in 30-180 seconds, you shouldn't have that problem.
Could anyone tell me the name of the lens he is using in the video?
+gerry monteleon He's mostly using the 50-140. You can see the details for each photo used in the video on his Maartech Flickr account in the XPro2 album.
Great review!
7:27 funny 😄
Always nice to hear from a viewer who shares my sense of humour. Thanks for the kind word.
I personnaly use 77 focus point, it makes it faster to select focus point with the thumbstick.
I like your rationale, thanks.
are you talking about AF-L back button focus in manual mode? that "should" do the trick. not saying it's a perfect system, it does have its "quirks"
I should have used that word. Thanks.
Always enjoy your reviews. Probably one of the more balanced presenters, and in a world of fan-boys and corporate shills... most welcome. I've been checking out this camera (and an X-T2) for a week now and I've run up against an issue I can't seem to get around, I hate the ISO/Shutter Speed combo dial. I shoot full manual and in constantly changing environments, which means I am constantly adjusting both settings. I find the ISO dial difficult to read (especially in very bright or very dark conditions), found myself inadvertently moving both the Shutter Speed and ISO when all I wanted was to change the ISO, and found it annoying that when you change the Shutter Speed it also changes the orientation of the ISO viewing window. A really poor design especially when you factor in that the ISO wheel has a lock but the Shutter Speed dial does not. I love Fuji, but I think they went for "style over substance" rather than "form follows function" here. It might seem like a minor issue, but it's holding me back from purchasing this camera.
Oh BTW, you can also configure the rear Command Dial to control incremental Shutter Speed. You configure it in Settings and then set the Shutter Speed dial to "T". Now if only they would update the firmware so you can set the front Command Dial to control ISO (like on the X-100F) and I just might change my mind about the X-Pro-2.
Thanks for the kind words. It sounds like a picky point, but I know how aggravating it can be not to have a feature work the way you want/need. I agree, it does take a deft touch to master these interlocked rings. The only thing I can suggest is to use Auto ISO (which means you won't need to adjust it) in combination with EV adjustments.
Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately I consider Auto ISO to be a compromise rather than an alternative. Plus I never use Exposure Comp. To me that's one step away from just putting everything on Auto and letting the camera make the decisions. On a body that begs to be shot in manual and with full immersion in the process, that seems at odds. I have the camera on loan until Wednesday. At that point I either keep it or send it back. As of today it's 75% likely it goes back. I really hope I develop some amazing dexterity and muscle memory in short order because I really want to like this camera. Unfortunately right now, I don't.
Understood and appreciated. If a camera doesn't suit your workflow and style, it's not for you.
I am down to 2 choices for my first interchangeable lens hobby camera mainly using it for travel, street and landscape still photography. Cost matters! Brand new.
First choice: Fuji XT30 with Fuji XF 18-55mm f/2.8 lens costing USD 1150.00.
Second option: Fuji XPro2 with Fuji XF 18-55mm f/2.8 lens costing USD 1300.00. Feels better in hand. Is it still worth it in 2021?
Thank U Maarten
The sole advantage the X-Pro2 has is the hybrid viewfinder. I wouldn't consider it dated, but if size is a consider for you (as it is for me) maybe the X-H1 or X-T3 (or X-T4) might be other cameras worthy of consideration. I find the X-Pro2 clunky and quirky in operation compared to those two.
All that said, the X-T30 is a terrific, if small, camera.
@@MaartenHeilbron Thank U
bit odd to say about a range finder camera that it is offering the best of both worlds in OVF and EVF
it would be really nice if someone would offer a similar setup with an SLR
Yes, it could be seen that way ... and I will say that on my final review before posting I sensed that interpretation. Maybe it's the best two out of three? I agree that it would be nice if more manufacturers took advantage of the ability to switch the viewfinder from optical to electronic on DSLRs. Or if mirrorless cameras had an optional optical mode.
Which is better the X Pro 2 or the XT2?
Unless you're really fond of the hybrid optical/EVF viewfinder, my choice would be the X-T2, particularly if you're shooting video. Even without, I'd likely choose the X-T2 just for the ISO dial. Here's my preview: th-cam.com/video/VtMD0ysiIao/w-d-xo.html and my coverage of the New York launch event: th-cam.com/video/mf9u7Tww48k/w-d-xo.html
Maarten, thanks. I wouldn't pursue it except for the fact the Fuji Support rep put me on hold and allegedly had a tech try it on his. She came back and told me his was the same so it wasn't a problem with mine. My response was, "no, all he proved is that its a problem for both." I got the feeling I was being told whatever necessary to end the call. Calibrating the OVF and EVF is probably a delicate adjustment at the factory and it won't be perfect, but at $1700, damn near perfect is what I expect.
I agree with your assessment. Let's see what my Fuji contact comes back with.
Xpro-2 , XT-2 please which one should i buy ?
Unless you're really fond of the hybrid optical/EVF viewfinder, my choice would be the X-T2, particularly if you're shooting video. Even without, I'd likely choose the X-T2 just for the ISO dial. Here's my preview: th-cam.com/video/VtMD0ysiIao/w-d-xo.html and my coverage of the New York launch event: th-cam.com/video/mf9u7Tww48k/w-d-xo.html
Thank you *****
I don't even have an interest in this camera. I just like the way you do your videos.
May goodness, that is praise of the highest order. Thank you!
Good review! But do you really don't liked the design? If I recall correctly you found the previously "retro" designs from Fuji pleasing, and in my opinion the x-pro series is the best looking ones :) of course, opinions differ. Just curious on your take on it.
Maybe I'm off base here, I generally really admire Fuji's designs, retro and otherwise. Something about the X-Pro2 struck me as plain and industrial - lacking in style and panache. I'll call my optometrist and go for a checkup.
Funny enough it is the real insdustrial look I really like! Haha, let me know if the optemetrist visit changes anything :)
Ah - I understand that there are those who prefer Trabis to Bimmers - and I'm only comparing design, not quality. I will let you know, and I'll be sure to mention this issue at my visit. :-)
been testing the xpro2 here in Tokyo...Fujifilm HQ office lend me the camera and some lenses. I was not intrigued by the viewfinder. Frankly find it annoying and confusing. The lens is in the way of my shots. From inside info I got the xt2 will most likely not arrive until September, not July. I also found the exposure button in my way of shooting and often by accident increased it. There should have been a lock system on that. Speaking of lock. The iso dial is another annoying aspect. Anyway thanks for your amazing reviews.
Thanks for sharing your views, your kind words - and the news about the X-T2. I agree with your thoughts about the lock on the EV dial - or just the ability to disable it - but that's essentially what the C position does (at least then if you accidentally adjust it, you'll know, as you're off by 3 stops.) I like the ISO dial - but it is a little old school - there is a lot of 1960s rangefinder aesthetic here - and that is an acquired taste.
do you have any rumoured X-Pro-3 release date? :)
I do not. I don't do rumours or announcements. I do shipping products.
Toronto!
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excelent review. Excpet for your opening statement. Aesthetically the X-Pro2 is the best/coolest looking camera ever (well maybe some overpriced Leica's look better). But OK it's all a matter of taste I guess.
Thanks for the kind words - and I have taken some flack for that comment. In my opinion it has an industrial orthopaedic look that's not the usual Fuji retro aesthetic. Luckily, it's only my opinion - and according to several viewers, I'm wrong. Thanks for taking the time to comment.
Enjoyable review. I like the look of this camera, but it would be a big move for me.
Thanks for the kind words. Do have a look at the X-T2, which unless you want the hybrid viewfinder and don't need 4K video is my preferred choice.
Wow, and they say Sonys menu system seems complicated! I'm sure it just takes some getting used to, but I do love the way Fuji images look.
This Fuji menu update, although it still has a few quirks, seemed comfortable to me fairly quickly.
I dont think Fuji's menus are more complicated than Sony, or Olympus menus.
I think you'll find the changes implemented in the X-Pro2 to be an improvement.
+Maarten Heilbron im just saying, it's what you're used to - no matter what brand people move it seems they always have complaints about the menu. Canon to Sony, Nikon to Canon, it doesn't matter. I know that I can get used to any new menu, just takes time.
Yes, that is an assessment I can agree with.
Excellent review! Just trade my xpro3 for xpro2..... More than enough for me and... The flip screen wasnt my cup of tea
Understood.
Xpro 2 or XE3 better for street photography?
depends on your needs, i'd probably take the X-E3
@@MaartenHeilbron thank you
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Nice review! I've had my Xpro2 for a couple of weeks, and believe or not, I bought it mostly for video work, based on what I had seen prior to purchasing the camera. Of course, this camera for video would not be my first choice, I have other cameras for that purpose, but there is something about Fuji's color science! The Xpro2, by default, crushed the blacks and mids in video mode, as can be seen when you show your wave form in this video, the black level is way below zero. I've heard a rumor that this is a possible bug, but who knows. I'd love to see Fuji release more control to the video side of this camera, I see no reason not to have the Shadow tone, Highlight tone, Sharpness, Noise reduction, and Color all enabled for video. It's okay to be traditionalist, but in this day and age, ALL cameras shoot video, there no reason to feel threatened by that, by rather embrace it, and let those that want to use it have some control over it! Come on Fuji, you can do it!
Thanks - that's an excellent viewpoint - would love to see some of your video work. And I completely agree - it's not that it's not capable, it's just that there are so many better options with more features available. The video levels/blacks is very interesting, you can see on the waveform that it's below zero. Of course that's only an issue for "broadcast", digital doesn't care. But really, it just means a wider than usual dynamic range (some cameras do way less than 100 IRE) of course, it means adjustment/grading in post, but it's a great starting point as long as you're aware of what you're getting. And sometimes, it is nice to have a "purist" camera - so there is a part of me that thinks just leave the video part out altogether.
+Maarten Heilbron Crushed black levels are crushed no matter if you're going to broadcast or TH-cam, crushed is crushed, and needs to be addressed regardless, well, unless you like really dark images! Wider dynamic range, not so sure about that, as you need, or should be right at or near zero IRE for the black level, so the fact this shoots crushed, you're going to have to bring that up to begin with, it's bringing it into 16-235 luminance level as opposed to this being well below 0 to well above 255. Nothing above 255 is doing you any good, nothing below 0 is doing you any good, so you're gaining nothing dynamic range wise. Purist cameras, I understand, but we have those in early edition of Fuji were the video is practically un-usable, but the still image wonderful. Even Leica has joined the party with it's Leica D-LUX type 109, shooting 4K internally. For what it's worth I have a Fuji Xpro2 blog dedicated to shooting video with this camera @ Fuji-xpro2user.tumblr.com
+Maarten Heilbron Crushed black levels are crushed no matter if you're going to broadcast or TH-cam, crushed is crushed, and needs to be addressed regardless, well, unless you like really dark images! Wider dynamic range, not so sure about that, as you need, or should be right at or near zero IRE for the black level, so the fact this shoots crushed, you're going to have to bring that up to begin with, it's bringing it into 16-235 luminance level as opposed to this being well below 0 to well above 255. Nothing above 255 is doing you any good, nothing below 0 is doing you any good, so you're gaining nothing dynamic range wise. Purist cameras, I understand, but we have those in early edition of Fuji were the video is practically un-usable, but the still image wonderful. Even Leica has joined the party with it's Leica D-LUX type 109, shooting 4K internally. For what it's worth I have a Fuji Xpro2 blog dedicated to shooting video with this camera @ Fuji-xpro2user.tumblr.com
My point, as demonstrated on the waveform, is that they're not crushed at all - they just appear like that on a display which is designed for REC (ITU) 709, with 6-7 stops of range. Having usable signal below 0 IRE - or even below 7.5 IRE - is crushed on a REC 709 display, but as you see in the waveform, there is detail and information in that area. To be useful on a REC 709 display, that requires a LUT or some grading/levels adjustment in your video editor or colour grading software.
You may also be confusing two different measurement systems - waveforms display IRE units (0-100), while the video signal actually ranges (due to sync pulses required for broadcast) to -20. The digitization 0-255 range doesn't exactly map - again, as the waveform shows. It's capable of a wider exposure latitude. Most cameras allow white levels to exceed 100 IRE - mostly up to 105 or 109, as does the X-Pro2 - but most leave blacks at 7.5 (0-7.5 IRE is crushed in REC 709).
Thanks for the link to your blog, I"ll have to spend some more time reading - looks like you've done some very useful analysis.
+Maarten Heilbron That waveform clearly shows the blacks well below zero, crushed. A waveform is a standard of measurement in IRE or you can view that in Luminance level, depending upon how your waveform is setup. There is discussion on this camera and how it crushes the blacks on other forums, you're the first that doesn't see it that way, which is all good! Case in point, shoot with the Fuji metered dead center and the footage will measure black levels well below 0 in FCPX or any other NLE. Shoot with any other DSLR and meter that dead center and the footage blacks will be right at 0. I could then lower black and mids and make that look just like what the Fuji shoots out of the gate metered dead center. The Fuji crushes the black levels upon video recording. There's even a guy selling LUTS that quote, "brings the Fuji video signal to usable standards" it's a know fact this shoots heavy, all Xpro2 footage in FCPX measures well below 0.
fantastic as usual ʕ•͡-•ʔ
Thanks for taking the time to comment, I appreciate the kind words.
if you want to focus the subject just select the single point focus because the subject wasn't moving in your video. Also 35 mm f1.4 lens is slow lens so you should go for 35 f2 version which is created for X-pro2 ...
I did try that, it didn't work any better. I was shooting with the 50-140 in the example.
i have no problem with autofocus on x-pro2. it just works well..
That's good to hear. Which lens are you using? I wouldn't have included this in the video if it had not happened to me several times while shooting closeups of flowers, so I tried to replicate it in the studio as you see in the video. The auto focus seems to have trouble when the lens is near infinity and the subject is close to the lens (but focusable) and somewhat small and ill-defined like a flower.
i have 23 mm f1.4 lens and 90 mm f2.
The X-Pro2 has been returned, but I'm going to borrow it again for another project - this time with the 18-55. I'll keep you posted.
There seems to be a one click diopter difference between the OVF and EVF on my X-pro2 with the 35mm f2 lens (the only one I tested.) Fuji says this is normal. Really? This could be corrected in software for the EVF. They should be 100% calibrated. This is NOT a cheap camera. It's an issue or not and should not be a volume of complaint issue, but Fuji says they will not address it until they get more complaints. Check yours. If you have the same issue let's accommodate Fuji with a complaint campaign to Fuji Support. This should not be!
Mine was a review unit and I've returned it - but I will ask my Fuji contacts for more information.
Very good review, but perhaps I'm somewhat swayed by agreeing with your overall thoughts on camera functionality. The X-Pro2 is a camera I think I should love but I'm not sure I will. I did love my Contax Gs and this is as close as anything has come to it. I do wish it was full frame though - it's very expensive for an APS-C camera.
I appreciate the kind words, thanks. While it would always be nice to have full frame, IMHO, APS-C is the best choice for anyone not working as a full-time professional photographer for demanding clients. And do consider the X-T2, although you may have to wait until September for availability. Here's my preview: th-cam.com/video/VtMD0ysiIao/w-d-xo.html
I'm afraid the XT-2 doesn't really grab me. I already have several Canon DSLRs and both Sony a6000 and A72. If I could combine the FF of the A72 with the dials and layout of the X-Pro2 I'd be a very happy camper. I agree that APS-C is more than adequate for pretty much anything, my mind just works in FF as far as lens selection and depth of field are concerned. I think the X-Pro2 could also be a touch smaller - my FF A72 is smaller than the Fuji.
Even though I have much newer gear, I still use the Canons for professional contracts - I just trust them more (I grew up in the era of Nikon F3 etc - yes, I'm old). I use the Sonys for 'fun' work but I crave the mechanical touch of a shutter speed dial and an aperture ring - sigh
All good points, and although I see the advantage of FF, I'm personally not that sold - I take great photos with APS-C. Thanks for your notes, appreciated. And yes, I too am holding onto my old 50D which remains a solid performer for stills.
you still own this camera?
In general, the cameras in my reviews are on loan and returned after the review. I do not own this camera.
yes TOUCHSCREEN (for zooming playback, browsing, menus) would have been welcomed but tilty flippy screen is a no for me. its not for this camera I for one would not want it. lets leave that on the XT1. its what differentiates each X system, a uniqueness.
Always nice to hear a differing opinion, thanks for commenting.
Need to send your X-Pro2 back to Fuji if you are having focus problems mate. I have no such problems with mine, including Professional rugby and Kickboxing. Where do you get the 'grain' idea from? There is only electronic noise with digital, grain doe not exist, as grain is caused on fil by the size of silver halides
Thanks for your kind suggestions, however it's worth noting that the firmware releases between the recording of this video and the time of your comment have addressed this issue.
As for grain - while your arcane and historical perspective, as well as your pedantic need for language purity is commendable - the reality is that it's a term that, like many other hold overs from film, is one that's used to describe certain digital artifacts. I'm sure you understand exactly what I'm referring to.
@@MaartenHeilbron Thank you...that would account for my focus being good then. So, you refer 'technically speaking' to grain 'effect' rather than actual grain. Happy shooting with the amazing Fuji
Always happy to help.
Prob one of more informative videos on the Xpro2, that just regurgitate technical info. I just got one w 2 lenses.
Thanks, a pleasure to read your kind words.
I really want one...but I have an X100 and a D810, so do I need one? No! Do I want one? I already said I do!
Yes, yes ... want ... want ....
I have bad news for you: I had/have the D800 for demanding shoots, have the X-100s for my walk-around and take anywhere cam but then I got the XPro2 at the end of February and those other two have not been used since. Sold all my f/2.8 zooms only keeping two primes and the body. Amazing, amazing camera that I can't stop shooting.
That is bad news :-) I appreciate the comments.
Thanks, Fuji will not come back with anything unless more people find the problem with their equipment and complain. I love Fuji stuff. I have a Pro2, X100T and X-E2s along with 4 lenses. I love the stuff. Just disappointed with this limited issue. I'm sure at the factory the calibration of the OVF and EVF is difficult and probably done by robots. That's no excuse however.
I returned mine after the review, so can't verify on another model. I'll let you know when I hear.