Hi Thorsten, your videos are always very interesting. I also had leica analog cameras, I am almost 60 years old. Always in my professional life I was surrounded by "buttons". When I see someone your age saying that these buttons do not interest me, I see clearly that you mean, I HAVE NO IDEA HOW IT WORKS. I've already seen a lot of people my age say that with Photoshop. I have only Fujifilm cameras currently from the X series. X100S-XE1-XE3-XT1-Xpro1 and those buttons are wonderful. Being able to adjust those movies that we used to use from Fuji in analog, wow, I enjoy as a child. If you must spend hours looking at the manual, and adjust toto as you want, but thanks to wonderful TH-camrs like your talking about Settings everything is easier. It's just my opinion as a former audiovisual professional. By the way I sold the Leica M6. I love Fuji. I love the Q button.Thanks for reading.
Thanks for the video. My original plan was to shoot a Fuji X-Pro2 until I I could buy a Leica digital rangefinder that I liked. After I purchased the Leica M10, I was going to sell my X-Pro2 but was surprised to discover that I really prefer to use the X-Pro2.
Nice view on the X Pro 2 from a Leica aficionado. Looking forward to your next video on the X Pro 2 Love your magic words on 4:37 - Anything on a camera that doesn't have anything to do with exposure basically does not belong on the camera !!!! SO TRUE !! Thanks for sharing.
I felt compelled to comment exactly because of these words and after some time in my self-taught journey in photography and as an owner of several Fuji cameras to date I couldn't agree more. After reading through manuals and trial and error I find myself not messing around with the menu at all. It took some time to get it figured out though. I think Fuji somehow is aware of this situation and are trying to fix it with the "MY" menu in which you can basically throw just the configurations you might need to adjust (if any) on top of all the dials and buttons.
You're absolutely right Thorsten. I shot with a Fuji XE-1 for quite a few years and loved it. But then I bought the X-Pro 2, and in less than a month I was so fed up with the menus, and the menus within menus within menus, that I sold it and bought the Leica M-D. I absolutely love the M-D, been shooting with it for over a year now, no menus, pick up and shoot. I am a bit nervous though as a friend wants me to shoot their wedding and I will have to use the Leica M-D.
old post …. but when the XPRO2 is set up your way you can do exactly the same thing… and many people compared Leica to Fuji on YT its not the camera who made the picture the photos where equally as good… may the Leica popped a bit more but in the all this was super subjective
Benjamin Kanarek Absolutely. I use manual lenses an awful lot on my Fujifilm bodies and the peaking is awesome. Even after using the xpro2 for nearly 2 years...I still enjoy just picking up and use it.
The problem with that is that it reduces the obvious point of spending more for the X-Pro 2, which is the OVF. It's a shame that you can't rely on the OVF with the X-Pro because if you could it would be killer.
I own its predecessor the Fuji X-Pro-1. I adapted a couple of Leitz lenses to it during my current 100 vintage lens portrait project - really happy with the results.
Leitz Elmar 9cm f/4 LTM is a lovely compact early tele and reasonable to buy - easy to adapt to Fuji X with a cheap M39 adapter. th-cam.com/video/hvxmnxfARIA/w-d-xo.html
There is also X-Pro1 Monochrome conversion, that has RGB colour filters removed from the sensor. B&W output is spectacular, and better than conversion from colour files: maxmax.com/maincamerapage/monochrome-cameras/fuji-monochrome
Looks great Zvonimir- my style, however, is to mix color up with b&w. The decision to use color is dependent on whether it contributes or distracts from the composition or storytelling. So a mono only camera doesn't work that well for me.
6:40 That new features guide is for the v2.0 firmware update, not the xpro2 update from the xpro1. However in line with what Thorsten says, it’s great for users as large firmwares come out, you get an update manual. I do like his idea of a manual for previous users, perhaps a web link.
I appreciate your unique take ( somewhat of a review ) on cameras and lenses. How everything should be simple. How Leica lens design is not just a cold mathematical calculation but also an artful thought process. Thorsten you have conveyed more clearly than everyone why you use a Leica camera and lenses. While there are a lot of reviews of the Fuji X-Pro 2, yours was very relevant in that you talked about the colours of the images right away ( How natural, tungsten and LED light affect the image individually and combined ). Nice to seeing you using the X-Pro 2. Interesting what your opinion will be a month or a year from now. Thanks.
3:45, one of the most forgotten things in photography these days, everyone is just too obsessed about the gear, they forget what that gear is made for!!! Nice review btw.
Hi Thorsten, That was a nice little review. Thank you. Brands like Fuji, Sony et el have to appeal to a wide user base, which is why they're a 'bit' overloaded with features. The good thing about the Fuji is that once one has taken the time to set it up, then there's very little reason to use the menu. At least the 3 exposure parameters are all available on dedicated external dials, unlike most modern cameras One thing from your video, the 'new features' guide is actually talking about the stuff they added to the camera via a firmware update since it was first released! The original X-Pro1 is a very simple camera by today's standards, and still has a big fan base for it's simple yet quirky slow nature and slightly more "organic" (for want of a better word) colours. I think this is normal that some prefer the older camera, the M9 has a similar cult following Looking forward to reading and hearing more.
3:00 sounds like you haven't discovered focus peaking yet, maybe check out the manual after all. It also helps to switch the camera to MF (another front lever you might have missed) to get access to focus point zoom on back dial push, peaking, and other configurable manual focusing aids. The EVF is your friend, happy shooting.
"... you can just take pictures with it,..it sounds ridiculous...but that's actually what i wanted to use the camera for." I say this totally in good spirits, but that line had me laughing until my ribs hurt....then you mentioned , "It has a really cool black and white setting called acros, and no..that's not a hip hopper." I died on that line. So good..brilliant review. 5 stars.
Yes, it's as simple as that. People fundamentally buy cameras to take pictures. I don't know why it's so hard to understand for some camera manufacturers ;-)
Thanks. I’m thinking about upgrading my old M8 (once I get the shutter replaced) and was considering the X-pro2. I don’t like complexity & menu fiddling either. Maybe I’ll stick to my even older M6 which has worked a lot longer than the M8 ever did.
What a great video, I like the fact that you are a photographer that takes pictures and dont worry about ibis 4k etc, I thought I was the only one banging this gong.
Great video Thorsten! I travel with my M10 and X-Pro2 around the world and they complement each other very well. I use the X-Pro2 for when I need a light camera and when I need to shoot beyond 90MM FF equivalent. I also love the rendering and artistic freedom from the stellar Fujifilm XF16 F1.4. You must try this lens, it’s an incredible value. I’m looking forward to more videos on the X-Pro2, which I think is the gateway drug to the Leica addiction.
My pocket in trip: Leica MP Film (2003), Leica M9M , and X-Pro2. Other than 1 or 2 Fuji zoom / WR lens will standby on journalist scenes, every Leica glass always give promising images, incomparable. In terms of Mechanical Perfection, a Leica M body truly makes you feel that you are the one to blame if something is not at best during the shuttering. This feeling projects more and more in the field and motivates you to a sense of duty to improve your skill. Leica refers to fundamentals. However, I must thank Fujifilm dear Engineers and (budget controller) for putting all things together with improving qualities that is very difficult from a company with history. Genius move and the history will be made, on some day the game is changed. Hybrid-VF Patent is still on yours, Fuji. Don't let this XPro ideas fading out. Get an Hrybrid-Perfection model and see how Leica dance with that.
You pay a lot of money for the extra perfection from good enough camera to really perfect camera. Personal choice if one is willing to go all the way, and no blame for doing either.
Theoria Apophasis Did you make a video comparing Leica lenses to Fujicron directly comparing microcontrast, sharpness color, since many call Fuji the cheap Leica.
I found your review interesting and refreshing. Thanks for this. You may come to appreciate the WR feature of the X-Pro2 and your 23mm lens in weather conditions that Leicas traditionally don't like. I also have an X-Pro2 and two of the "Fujicron" WR f/2 lenses-- the 23 & 50mm. Both lenses are very good, although I believe the 50mm has much better "pop" and micro contrast. However, the lens I've been using more and more on the X-Pro2 is the Leica M mount Voigtlander Nokton 40mm f/1.4. I am truly loving this lens on the Fuji. I'd thus be willing to wager that not all Leica glass is wasted on the X-Pro2 and would be interested to see if your opinion on this changes over time.
I'm so happy that your opinions of Fuji colours are the same as mine. I was starting to think I was crazy or something, talking about these issues with other Fuji owners. I thought it was my model.
Different indoor lights have different color temperatures so you never know what you will get. Thanks for making that a complaint and showing how to get around it.
Greetings! Regarding the alleged “watercolor/worm” effects you mentioned, as a Fujifilm X-System landscape and product photographer, I can say with some authority (from 3 years experience in this system) that I have created some superb 24x36” poster prints of detailed landscapes with mountains, trees, and other foliage; There is no evidence of that; rather, only great detail! I use Photoshop or Iridient Developer for post processing. I think those “effects” may have been found when using an inappropriate post processing technique or software. Good luck to you!
it's actually pretty easy to combat that effect. it happens if you sharpen photos the same way you would a bayer sensor. increasing detail rather than sharpening amount avoids the "worminess." I use an X-Pro2 and have been shooting landscapes lately. At first I was so frustrated and thought about switching systems again, but after doing some reading about the topic I figured out how to get better results. A quick google search will help you find the articles in question
Hi Torsten, I cannot reproduce correctly emitted red color with my Fuji cameras or any of my digital cameras. By emitted I mean e.g. red neon signs, red tail lights of the cars, red traffic lights. The reproduced color is heavily towards orange. If I heavily underexpose the color starts looking red. I have used also manual white balance. No help. Any hints how to get the red color right? Perhaps some kind of filter?
My journey to the Fujifilm X100S was when I wanted a lighter camera to carry everywhere, which I wasn't doing with my bigger DSLR. The X100S introduced me to the style of older rangefinder cameras with their easy to see and use basic exposure dials. Later, I returned to shooting emulsion film and picked up both a Leica IIIf and Leica M3 with a few vintage lenses. Without the X100S, I may not have opted for the vintage Leicas.
As I started watching the video, I was shocked to hear you talking about a camera other than a Leica, but you did good. But, it was weird hearing you talk about the Fuji and not a Leica.
thorsten. i have a question sine you have so many diffrent leicas i was hoping you cant help me with my first leica camera , choices are 1. leica m8,with a voightlander 35mm1.4 no.2 a leica q, and last the leica cl, i am comming from a fujifilm xe2 with a 35mm2.0 lens. thanks
Leica Q is great. It will lead you to Leica M8 or other Leica M. So both are great choices. CL is not being produced anymore, so sort of a dead end as of now.
For the Fujifilm colors, you must have experience in using Fujifilm color emulsions. If you like them and want that look, then there are the film simulations. As you know, a film is not always about the perfect reproduction of the colors. And with experience, you know which emulsion (Kodak, Fujifilm) to use in a specific moment of the day or night or for a specific type of photography. Many of us have had enough about how the "real" colors are looking today in a very polluted environment. So, we enjoy specific emulsions of film. Even you are altering the colors in a post processing program to get the look you desire. Try to find that look in a specific film emulsion (not digital simulation).
I agree. When I talk about colors, I'm mainly talking about the raw colors as they appear in Lightroom. And Capture One as well. I generally don't use filters myself, and I don't use JPG presets in camera.
Hard to get Leica look without the Leica lenses. I try as hard as I can to get there with my Fujis. I find turning down the saturation really helps come closer to the Leica colors. But, the Fuji colour science in general is pretty darn good.
Hi Thorsten, I am new to Leica having just bought an M9 (sensor replaced) and 35 Summicron f2. I am a long time Fuji X-Pro1 user and feel that the X-Pro1 sensor delivers more film like images than the newer X-Pro2. That said the 23mm lens I use is the f1.4 version which more equates to the 35mm f2 Summicron, you should try the f1.4 version it is a better lens. Ironic really that you are just finding Fuji whilst I am just finding Leica. Looking forward to seeing your views after longer use, will it stay in your arsenal? BTW your "Why the Leica M9 is so unique" video was instrumental in my decision to go for the M9 and so far I don't regret it. Thanks.
The short answer is that the Fuji is not a Leica. My everyday kit is two Leica M10's (and before that two M240s and two M9s). The Leica Q, Leica TL2, Fuji is/was great cameras to try and use, but not the everyday kit.
The most important thing is the photographer. I'm an owner of two X-Pro1 and I'm waiting to get an X-Pro2 at the same price you can get an X-Pro1 today. In the meantime I'm continuing to take photographs.
Nicely done, Thorsten. And now I have heard Danish humor! Thanks for the analysis. I've been curious about an update to my former Leica M4 from the 70s. This might be it. Can't afford a real Leica these days. Only thing, you haven't yet compared the M10 and Fuji "on the streets" as the title says. :( So... Looks like you've been to Cuba. VERY nice photos. I also liked the "B" camera with a B&W image. Thanks for your video!
Hi, It is possible to use Fuji lens on Leica's body? How does it work with a rangefinder? I know that I cant focus with Fuji lens on Leica trough rangefinder, but can I focus trough LiveView?
Isn't Thorsten a Leica Ambassador? He has published volumes on Leica.. I don't remember him ever saying anything positive about any other brand of camera. So what gives? Something is fishy in Denmark.
Hi Thorsten. Thanks for the video. I know the xpro2 can shoot raw & jpg together. But when you set the filmsimulation to B&W, your EVF becomes B&W too. Do you know if there's a workaround for that (besides using OVF)?
I actually prefer the EVF to be in black and white (as I just need to see exposure and composition, not colors). I guess there is the option ot shoot raw and then use the b&w filers in Lightroom. When you import them, you have the Acros filter as well in Lightroom, for example.
My biggest complaint with the Fuji X-Pro2 is how tiny the Hybrid VF is. You can barely see anything through it! Nothing compares to the viewfinder of a Leica, and honestly once you pick up a Leica nothing compares to it. IF you end up picking up a Fuji Camera I recommend the X-T2 everything about it is great.
I agree on that. My main reason for the Fuji X-Pro 2 was to check the current technology of Hybrid VF, because Leica said they didn't include it in the M10 because they didn't find the technology/quality good enough. It's not a clear viewfinder, and it sits so close to the edge of the body that light from outside tend to blind you when you try to look into the VF in sunshine.
I'm about to receive a GX85 from eBay (I hear the postal chick's rattly truck right now). One reason I picked it was fewer such buttons & switches, tilting LCD, and still a Leica-type form factor. We'll see if it does what I hope it does. Only thing, the smaller M4:3 sensor kind of bothers me. It might still be capable of better photos than I am, though!
In my film days, I shot with Nikon SLR and Leica rangefinder 35mm cameras. In the digital age, I shot with Nikon dSLR and Fuji mirrorless cameras. I shot with the Fuji X-Pro1 and X-Pro2 Fuji mirrorless as I waited for Leica to introduce a digital rangefinder that I liked. In 2017, the Leica M10 seemed to be close to the Leica rangefinder for which I had been waiting. Regretfully, my black M10 was defective and I had to send it back to Leica for a refund. This month, I bought a chrome M10. I hope I will have more luck with this one than I did with the first one.
My bottom line is that Fuji with Fuji lenses are a good result. Fuji with Leica lenses are mostly not a great result because the Fuji lenses works great with the help of software correction for the lens.
Im just curious as this Video title Fujifilm X-Pro2 vs Leica, i wonder which Leica model camera is the Fujifilm X-Pro2 counterpart in terms of quality shot and over all photo results.
Thank you for commentary on the Fuji especially in comparing color quality to your Leica's. Leica color rendition is always unique. I'm looking forward to other photos with the Fuji. Your videos are beautifully shot. What cameras do you use for your videos?
Thank you for that great talk, I appreciate you go right to the point and divide into sections. I just have a question for you. What would you say about the dynamic range the Fuji has with the APS-C sensor with respect to the full-frame sensor on the Leica M9?
surprised that Thorsten is testing out a Fuji........but I know why, I have seen that Fugi makes some really beautiful bodies, really vintage like with all the dials up there like old SLRs, rangefinders etc, love the black and silver colors and really good lenses, better in looks than olympus. i had picked up a XT-2 and really enjoyed its shape and design, loved that short handgrip cause it did not make it look like a DSLR, nice solid built cameras. I love Leica's more not because of price but because its a more of a pure design, less bottons, beautiful image quality etc. It just works and engages you more than you would with other brands because of what it may be leaking in.
Hello Thorsten. Will there be a follow-up video or post on your website? As others have said below, would be very interesting to see what your observations are being both an accomplished pro and a Leica Ambassador.
Do you suggest first camera is to get a fixed zoom/prime lens camera like Panasonic Lumix LX10/Sony RX100 V/RX10 IV or get a interchangeable lens camera like Fuji XE3 first?
Up to peoipole themself. I prefer fixed lens so one learn to "see 35mm" or "see 50mm". Zoom lenses tend to make one stand still and zoom till the frame fits, instead of composing with the eyes and feet.
LOL, You didn't know what Acros was? Probably one of the best if not the best B&W emulsion ever invented. An Orthopanchromatic emulsion with a pronounced dip in the green/cyan region of its spectral response curve which made great separation of tones in the foliage and the sky. It also had zero reciprocity failure compensation to exposure up to 120s of measured exposure time. I am not 100% convinced that film emulation works in digital ( a film can have many looks depending on how it was exposed and developed ) but it is an effect and Fuji's is not a bad one .The review though was spot on. Thanks.
Hello Thorsten, an interesting video. You raise some good points. The predecessor, (the X-pro 1) is a much simpler and intuitive camera to operate, less thrills and sub menus and more in-keeping with the Leica system. I actually find the sensor output more to my liking. It rewards creativity. Have you tried it?
No, I didn't try the X-Pro1. I did spend a morning coffee time counting menu points and sub-menus on the X-Pro2 and did the same on the Leica M10 and Leica Q and Leica TL2 to compare in the article. The Fuji X-Pro 2 is fundamentally a good camera. Made complicated, but fundamentally good.
Well done Thorsten (as usual) ! I still (happily) use my X100T alongside my Leica M-P and I remember how impressive was the XF 56mm f/1.2 mounted on my former Fuji XT-1: great performances for a reasonable price. Keep up the good job ciao ;-)
Unfortunately you have chosen the wrong title for you XPRO 2 review (not vs) but that's maybe good as I was anxious you would have to say that xpro2 is good but Leica is better... I have xpro1 and xpro2 and love them, but would love a Leica SL too if I could afford it:-)'
What camera straps do you use? I’ve been looking for a solid leather strap like the ones you have. Wonderful videos, and I’m thankful to hear on the way you approach a photo and view light. Super inspiring
Hello Thorsten. The reason I am interested in seeing the Fuji-Leica comparison is that in my experience each camera has its own color palette. They render colors in their own default way. There is difference in Panasonic versus Fuji, or Sony versus Olympus. And although all color rendition can be tweaked in a different direction it takes quite a bit of work to do so. In the past, photographers used different films for their pallete and characteristics, i.e., Kodachrome, versus Ektachrome, etc. The digital Leica has its own way of rendering colors. That is what I am interested in. By the way do you typically rely on the JPG or do you always use the RAW (Leica DNG) to arrive at the final image?
Yes, each new version of sensor (even within the same brand) renders colors their own way. If you then edit the pictures "your way" they may eventually end up looking the same despite the sensor difference. You could also have a sensor you just can't tame and get your look from. The M9 had very distinct colors because Leica tuned it to look as close as Kodachrome as they could (the did the same with the DMR digital back they made with Imacon and Kodak for the Leica R9). The M240 was different, and the M10 is tuned towards the M9 colors again. Ironically, the colors of the sensor is to a very large degree defined by the camera profile used by LR and other editing software (which translated the sensor data to colors).
Interesting info: The TL2 camera system makes use of the same Maestro II technology as is used for the Leica SL camera, and DNG files are 14 bit as well. A TL2 menu option allows the user to choose compressed or not compressed.
Great vid! The what balance card, was it about only the Gray colour or did the black and white referance help for the adjustments too(that where o yojr card) ? if yes then do u have a linked where to buy that cool one you have ;) ?
The WhiBal® card you can find at their website whibal.com or BH photo and similar. It's the neutral tone of the grey that is important, not that it is grey. They added black and white, centimeters, inches and other stuff ... well, nobody knows why. It's the neutral are of the card (which happens to be grey) you use to "calibrate" the sensor to natural colors.
Good afternoon, I am in process of either getting the graphite xpro 2 or maybe the Leica Q. Since you have experience with both, what would be your advise? I don’t do video. Thanks a lot
tx very much, mr von Overgaard. if you do not mind me asking a beginner's q: when u use that white balance card (12:42) to get color right: is the light that is reflected by that card (assuming this is what makes the card work) a sort of average representation of all the light that one wants to deal with? again, thank you.
Yes, to get neutral colors you would have top pick up the light of the main subject. In front of the face, and NOT unwanted reflections from the blue sky, a yellow wall to the left, etc, but the overall light that hits the face. The light is distinct different in sunshine and in shadow, and in each different location in a street. When I walk about photographing in daylight, I will usually set it to auto white balance. Onlywhen I want precise colors, I will set the WB manually with the card (a portrait, a product photo, architecture, etc). Someone said here that "when you shoot raw, it doesn't matter". But the way it DOES matter is that if you don't set the WB, you will have to guess and adjust the raw file without knowing the right colors. With the WhiBal card you get a standard neutral color setting and can make artistic changes to that.
I used to think Fujifilm rangefinder style cameras would be the gateway drug to Leica but I discovered it's a fine goldilocks drug all on it's own. I have an X Pro 1 and the newer X Pro 2. Thanks for your user report and looking forward to future videos.
I use an Xpro2 for more than 2 years and decided to go with the "Myth". So i have since couple of days a beautiful Leica M10 in my bag with the "fantastic" Summicron 50mm f/2 V5. The look is great, the camera is heavy (worth the money !) but the images around 6400 iso are very desapointing. In low light, the images are far better with the Fuji Xpro2 coupled with the Fujinon f/1.4 at f/2 than this M10. Maybe 5 or 6 years are century in term of sensor quality ? Anyway, the auto white balance is esoteric with sometimes a yellowish outputs, when the Fuji is terribly accurate. The colour science of Fuji jpg simulations put this camera at the highest level. I rarely need to spend time with the RAW file, when the DNG files required it more often. The lack of a real way to focus on this M10 make a lot of photos in low light or certain situations impossible to take. Except if you needed an "artistic" result ! My 70/80 Nikons or the Xpro2 has a better optical viewfinder. For exemple, when you shoot in "manual" with the M10 you have just an arrow telling you that you're higher or lower the the exact exposure, when the Xpro display a graduated ruler telling you how much stops you're from the good exposure. Don't forget the f**** access to the ISO ! So I ask myself what make impossible to Leica to add a good EVF, a better sensor and friendly access to some jpg tweaking. So maybe the Q line will works better for me or maybe waiting for the futur Fuji X-pro4 hoping that they put on it some of the mood of the M10 like less buttons. Anyway, I don't regret at all my purchase. The Leica is a masterpiece of craftmanship. And it force me to be more attentive when taking the images.
I agree with you, it seemed like an incorrect statement because it doesn’t match my understanding of what 35mm means. I know that Fuji does not label/name for “FF equivalent” so it’s a real 35mm. It would have the same crop Must say Thorsten, I love your videos and when you share your perspective. Bravo on taking on a new kit like the x-pro 2 to truly get to understand it 😀
One thing I can agree 100% is that camera should be simple! We the Fuji users are pushing for a simpler version of all the lines, specially, xpro line but unfortunately Fuji doesn't listen for whatever reason. The second booklet came with your camera, it is not to show what has changed since release of xpro1 but it gives information for its new firmware, the version 2! Fuji has a fantastic habit of upgrading their firmware with new abilities for the camera during the life of the camera!
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Hi Thorsten, your videos are always very interesting. I also had leica analog cameras, I am almost 60 years old. Always in my professional life I was surrounded by "buttons". When I see someone your age saying that these buttons do not interest me, I see clearly that you mean, I HAVE NO IDEA HOW IT WORKS. I've already seen a lot of people my age say that with Photoshop. I have only Fujifilm cameras currently from the X series. X100S-XE1-XE3-XT1-Xpro1 and those buttons are wonderful. Being able to adjust those movies that we used to use from Fuji in analog, wow, I enjoy as a child. If you must spend hours looking at the manual, and adjust toto as you want, but thanks to wonderful TH-camrs like your talking about Settings everything is easier. It's just my opinion as a former audiovisual professional. By the way I sold the Leica M6. I love Fuji. I love the Q button.Thanks for reading.
I’ve been using my X-Pro 2 with my late father’s Leica 35mm lens. I love this combo.
Thanks for the video.
My original plan was to shoot a Fuji X-Pro2 until I I could buy a Leica digital rangefinder that I liked. After I purchased the Leica M10, I was going to sell my X-Pro2 but was surprised to discover that I really prefer to use the X-Pro2.
“I didn’t read the manual” - Every man on Earth
I would love to have a M10, but I think the next best thing is the X Pro2. Great to watch a real photographer talk Fuji :-)
Nice view on the X Pro 2 from a Leica aficionado.
Looking forward to your next video on the X Pro 2
Love your magic words on 4:37 - Anything on a camera that doesn't have anything to do with exposure basically does not belong on the camera !!!!
SO TRUE !!
Thanks for sharing.
I felt compelled to comment exactly because of these words and after some time in my self-taught journey in photography and as an owner of several Fuji cameras to date I couldn't agree more.
After reading through manuals and trial and error I find myself not messing around with the menu at all. It took some time to get it figured out though.
I think Fuji somehow is aware of this situation and are trying to fix it with the "MY" menu in which you can basically throw just the configurations you might need to adjust (if any) on top of all the dials and buttons.
4:37 I love it
Thank you for this review. X-Pro 2 is my favourite camera for one year now. So happy with the results.
Excellent review and good sense of humour!
So interested to hear your thoughts as a die hard Leica guy on the Fuji.
You're absolutely right Thorsten. I shot with a Fuji XE-1 for quite a few years and loved it. But then I bought the X-Pro 2, and in less than a month I was so fed up with the menus, and the menus within menus within menus, that I sold it and bought the Leica M-D. I absolutely love the M-D, been shooting with it for over a year now, no menus, pick up and shoot. I am a bit nervous though as a friend wants me to shoot their wedding and I will have to use the Leica M-D.
old post …. but when the XPRO2 is set up your way you can do exactly the same thing… and many people compared Leica to Fuji on YT its not the camera who made the picture the photos where equally as good… may the Leica popped a bit more but in the all this was super subjective
You can use focus peaking HIGH in Red, Blue or White and it is very accurate.
Benjamin Kanarek Absolutely. I use manual lenses an awful lot on my Fujifilm bodies and the peaking is awesome. Even after using the xpro2 for nearly 2 years...I still enjoy just picking up and use it.
The problem with that is that it reduces the obvious point of spending more for the X-Pro 2, which is the OVF. It's a shame that you can't rely on the OVF with the X-Pro because if you could it would be killer.
You can use focus peaking with the ovf. the small evf window in the bottom right still displays it.
I own its predecessor the Fuji X-Pro-1. I adapted a couple of Leitz lenses to it during my current 100 vintage lens portrait project - really happy with the results.
what lenses are your fav for portraits?
Leitz Elmar 9cm f/4 LTM is a lovely compact early tele and reasonable to buy - easy to adapt to Fuji X with a cheap M39 adapter.
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There is also X-Pro1 Monochrome conversion, that has RGB colour filters removed from the sensor. B&W output is spectacular, and better than conversion from colour files: maxmax.com/maincamerapage/monochrome-cameras/fuji-monochrome
Looks great Zvonimir- my style, however, is to mix color up with b&w. The decision to use color is dependent on whether it contributes or distracts from the composition or storytelling. So a mono only camera doesn't work that well for me.
6:40
That new features guide is for the v2.0 firmware update, not the xpro2 update from the xpro1. However in line with what Thorsten says, it’s great for users as large firmwares come out, you get an update manual.
I do like his idea of a manual for previous users, perhaps a web link.
I appreciate your unique take ( somewhat of a review ) on cameras and lenses.
How everything should be simple.
How Leica lens design is not just a cold mathematical calculation but also an artful thought process.
Thorsten you have conveyed more clearly than everyone why you use a Leica camera and lenses. While there are a lot of reviews of the Fuji X-Pro 2, yours was very relevant in that you talked about the colours of the images right away ( How natural, tungsten and LED light affect the image individually and combined ).
Nice to seeing you using the X-Pro 2. Interesting what your opinion will be a month or a year from now.
Thanks.
3:45, one of the most forgotten things in photography these days, everyone is just too obsessed about the gear, they forget what that gear is made for!!! Nice review btw.
Hi Thorsten,
That was a nice little review. Thank you.
Brands like Fuji, Sony et el have to appeal to a wide user base, which is why they're a 'bit' overloaded with features. The good thing about the Fuji is that once one has taken the time to set it up, then there's very little reason to use the menu. At least the 3 exposure parameters are all available on dedicated external dials, unlike most modern cameras
One thing from your video, the 'new features' guide is actually talking about the stuff they added to the camera via a firmware update since it was first released!
The original X-Pro1 is a very simple camera by today's standards, and still has a big fan base for it's simple yet quirky slow nature and slightly more "organic" (for want of a better word) colours. I think this is normal that some prefer the older camera, the M9 has a similar cult following
Looking forward to reading and hearing more.
I've been waiting for this since I saw your X-Pro 2 lying on the desk a few episodes ago! Finally!
I know!
You're the best! I love my Fuji X but you've somehow convinced me to convert to the Leica M system!
Hi - Do you have any update on your use of and thoughts on the X-Pro2?
3:00 sounds like you haven't discovered focus peaking yet, maybe check out the manual after all. It also helps to switch the camera to MF (another front lever you might have missed) to get access to focus point zoom on back dial push, peaking, and other configurable manual focusing aids. The EVF is your friend, happy shooting.
"... you can just take pictures with it,..it sounds ridiculous...but that's actually what i wanted to use the camera for." I say this totally in good spirits, but that line had me laughing until my ribs hurt....then you mentioned , "It has a really cool black and white setting called acros, and no..that's not a hip hopper." I died on that line.
So good..brilliant review. 5 stars.
Yes, it's as simple as that. People fundamentally buy cameras to take pictures. I don't know why it's so hard to understand for some camera manufacturers ;-)
@@MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard Acro in Greek means "Extreem", so Acros in plural means Extreems. Black and White are the two extreems.
Thanks. I’m thinking about upgrading my old M8 (once I get the shutter replaced) and was considering the X-pro2. I don’t like complexity & menu fiddling either. Maybe I’ll stick to my even older M6 which has worked a lot longer than the M8 ever did.
Yes, never sell the M6. Then as for digital ... uh, I don't know. Statt with M9 second-hand and work your way up the model numbers ;-)
What a great video, I like the fact that you are a photographer that takes pictures and dont worry about ibis 4k etc, I thought I was the only one banging this gong.
Great video Thorsten! I travel with my M10 and X-Pro2 around the world and they complement each other very well. I use the X-Pro2 for when I need a light camera and when I need to shoot beyond 90MM FF equivalent. I also love the rendering and artistic freedom from the stellar Fujifilm XF16 F1.4. You must try this lens, it’s an incredible value. I’m looking forward to more videos on the X-Pro2, which I think is the gateway drug to the Leica addiction.
Nice. Yes, I think anything that is good for Fuji will eventually be good for Leica.
where is the second part video?
My pocket in trip: Leica MP Film (2003), Leica M9M , and X-Pro2. Other than 1 or 2 Fuji zoom / WR lens will standby on journalist scenes, every Leica glass always give promising images, incomparable.
In terms of Mechanical Perfection, a Leica M body truly makes you feel that you are the one to blame if something is not at best during the shuttering. This feeling projects more and more in the field and motivates you to a sense of duty to improve your skill. Leica refers to fundamentals.
However, I must thank Fujifilm dear Engineers and (budget controller) for putting all things together with improving qualities that is very difficult from a company with history. Genius move and the history will be made, on some day the game is changed.
Hybrid-VF Patent is still on yours, Fuji. Don't let this XPro ideas fading out. Get an Hrybrid-Perfection model and see how Leica dance with that.
You pay a lot of money for the extra perfection from good enough camera to really perfect camera. Personal choice if one is willing to go all the way, and no blame for doing either.
Finally the video the world needs by the man the world needs to make it.
Well, I'll take that. Feel I did something worthwhile today, and it's still early :-)
Magic Of Light ur a handsome man with a nice house. And some beautiful cameras. Thanks for the vid.
i never couldve made this video, im not a man
Theoria Apophasis Do you own Leicas? I think you have Leica Lenses? I think you said you didn’t even like Leicas, I love them!
Theoria Apophasis Did you make a video comparing Leica lenses to Fujicron directly comparing microcontrast, sharpness color, since many call Fuji the cheap Leica.
Love the stylish presenting style, no annoying music, you just trust he knows what he’s talking about
I found your review interesting and refreshing. Thanks for this. You may come to appreciate the WR feature of the X-Pro2 and your 23mm lens in weather conditions that Leicas traditionally don't like. I also have an X-Pro2 and two of the "Fujicron" WR f/2 lenses-- the 23 & 50mm. Both lenses are very good, although I believe the 50mm has much better "pop" and micro contrast. However, the lens I've been using more and more on the X-Pro2 is the Leica M mount Voigtlander Nokton 40mm f/1.4. I am truly loving this lens on the Fuji. I'd thus be willing to wager that not all Leica glass is wasted on the X-Pro2 and would be interested to see if your opinion on this changes over time.
I think you are right there. The Leica 28/1.4 Summilux wasn't a party on the Fuji. The Noctilux showed considerable fringing as well.
I’ve never held or even looked at a Fuji camera before, but now I just might go check them out! TY!
I'm so happy that your opinions of Fuji colours are the same as mine. I was starting to think I was crazy or something, talking about these issues with other Fuji owners.
I thought it was my model.
Different indoor lights have different color temperatures so you never know what you will get. Thanks for making that a complaint and showing how to get around it.
An excellent look at the X-Pro2, thanks. I’m looking forward to your long term review.
thank you!
I was about to put the trigger on a used x-pro2, but then I found out of the infamous "watercolour"/"worm" effect in the foliage in many landscapes.
Denis Bosonetto Right
Greetings! Regarding the alleged “watercolor/worm” effects you mentioned, as a Fujifilm X-System landscape and product photographer, I can say with some authority (from 3 years experience in this system) that I have created some superb 24x36” poster prints of detailed landscapes with mountains, trees, and other foliage; There is no evidence of that; rather, only great detail! I use Photoshop or Iridient Developer for post processing. I think those “effects” may have been found when using an inappropriate post processing technique or software. Good luck to you!
it's actually pretty easy to combat that effect. it happens if you sharpen photos the same way you would a bayer sensor. increasing detail rather than sharpening amount avoids the "worminess." I use an X-Pro2 and have been shooting landscapes lately. At first I was so frustrated and thought about switching systems again, but after doing some reading about the topic I figured out how to get better results. A quick google search will help you find the articles in question
Hi Torsten, I cannot reproduce correctly emitted red color with my Fuji cameras or any of my digital cameras. By emitted I mean e.g. red neon signs, red tail lights of the cars, red traffic lights. The reproduced color is heavily towards orange. If I heavily underexpose the color starts looking red. I have used also manual white balance. No help. Any hints how to get the red color right? Perhaps some kind of filter?
My journey to the Fujifilm X100S was when I wanted a lighter camera to carry everywhere, which I wasn't doing with my bigger DSLR. The X100S introduced me to the style of older rangefinder cameras with their easy to see and use basic exposure dials. Later, I returned to shooting emulsion film and picked up both a Leica IIIf and Leica M3 with a few vintage lenses. Without the X100S, I may not have opted for the vintage Leicas.
As I started watching the video, I was shocked to hear you talking about a camera other than a Leica, but you did good. But, it was weird hearing you talk about the Fuji and not a Leica.
thorsten. i have a question sine you have so many diffrent leicas i was hoping you cant help me with my first leica camera , choices are 1. leica m8,with a voightlander 35mm1.4 no.2 a leica q, and last the leica cl, i am comming from a fujifilm xe2 with a 35mm2.0 lens. thanks
Leica Q is great. It will lead you to Leica M8 or other Leica M. So both are great choices. CL is not being produced anymore, so sort of a dead end as of now.
I can't wait for your coming X-Pro2 movies. I'll stay tuned :)
For the Fujifilm colors, you must have experience in using Fujifilm color emulsions. If you like them and want that look, then there are the film simulations. As you know, a film is not always about the perfect reproduction of the colors. And with experience, you know which emulsion (Kodak, Fujifilm) to use in a specific moment of the day or night or for a specific type of photography. Many of us have had enough about how the "real" colors are looking today in a very polluted environment. So, we enjoy specific emulsions of film. Even you are altering the colors in a post processing program to get the look you desire. Try to find that look in a specific film emulsion (not digital simulation).
I agree. When I talk about colors, I'm mainly talking about the raw colors as they appear in Lightroom. And Capture One as well. I generally don't use filters myself, and I don't use JPG presets in camera.
Great review as always Mr.Overgaard . Fuji xpro2 is a good alternative for those who can’t or don’t want to expend 6000-7000€ in a Leica.
I agree. It will do the work while you dream or not dream of a Leica.
QUIM TORRA I PLANA m9 will do !
Hard to get Leica look without the Leica lenses. I try as hard as I can to get there with my Fujis. I find turning down the saturation really helps come closer to the Leica colors. But, the Fuji colour science in general is pretty darn good.
Thank you for delivering such high quality content on your channel, Mr Overgaard! :-)
Thank you :-)
Hi Thorsten, I am new to Leica having just bought an M9 (sensor replaced) and 35 Summicron f2. I am a long time Fuji X-Pro1 user and feel that the X-Pro1 sensor delivers more film like images than the newer X-Pro2. That said the 23mm lens I use is the f1.4 version which more equates to the 35mm f2 Summicron, you should try the f1.4 version it is a better lens. Ironic really that you are just finding Fuji whilst I am just finding Leica. Looking forward to seeing your views after longer use, will it stay in your arsenal? BTW your "Why the Leica M9 is so unique" video was instrumental in my decision to go for the M9 and so far I don't regret it. Thanks.
The short answer is that the Fuji is not a Leica. My everyday kit is two Leica M10's (and before that two M240s and two M9s). The Leica Q, Leica TL2, Fuji is/was great cameras to try and use, but not the everyday kit.
Have you done a follow up on the x-pro 2 - have you tried the x-pro 3?
How are you getting on with the Fuji compared to the Leica?
This is a great channel Thorsten!
Thank you!
The most important thing is the photographer. I'm an owner of two X-Pro1 and I'm waiting to get an X-Pro2 at the same price you can get an X-Pro1 today. In the meantime I'm continuing to take photographs.
Agree completely.
Sir you got it wrong about the Fujifilm 35mm lens being a 35mm because in APSC crop factor, the lens is equivalent to a 52.5mm lens.
Nicely done, Thorsten. And now I have heard Danish humor!
Thanks for the analysis. I've been curious about an update to my former Leica M4 from the 70s. This might be it. Can't afford a real Leica these days.
Only thing, you haven't yet compared the M10 and Fuji "on the streets" as the title says. :(
So... Looks like you've been to Cuba. VERY nice photos. I also liked the "B" camera with a B&W image.
Thanks for your video!
M9 second-hand could be an option, takes the same Leica lenses as the M4 ...
Hi, It is possible to use Fuji lens on Leica's body? How does it work with a rangefinder? I know that I cant focus with Fuji lens on Leica trough rangefinder, but can I focus trough LiveView?
If you can find a Fuji adapter and you use a Leica M240, M10 or M11 with Live View you would be able to focus it.
Love lord THOR 😘😘
Looking forward to actual image comparisons! I imagine Leica is freaking out now that you have a X pro-2 and seem to like it. Thanks for the review
But this is Thorsten Overgaard "Mr. Leica"
Isn't Thorsten a Leica Ambassador? He has published volumes on Leica.. I don't remember him ever saying anything positive about any other brand of camera. So what gives? Something is fishy in Denmark.
yer no slouch yourself. I follow your videos in the no-shill space.
Hi Thorsten. Thanks for the video. I know the xpro2 can shoot raw & jpg together. But when you set the filmsimulation to B&W, your EVF becomes B&W too. Do you know if there's a workaround for that (besides using OVF)?
I actually prefer the EVF to be in black and white (as I just need to see exposure and composition, not colors). I guess there is the option ot shoot raw and then use the b&w filers in Lightroom. When you import them, you have the Acros filter as well in Lightroom, for example.
I 100% agree with you. To much useless features on Fuji cameras. Don't you think Fuji sensors give to much "piqué" ? Like it is almost to sharp ?
My biggest complaint with the Fuji X-Pro2 is how tiny the Hybrid VF is. You can barely see anything through it! Nothing compares to the viewfinder of a Leica, and honestly once you pick up a Leica nothing compares to it. IF you end up picking up a Fuji Camera I recommend the X-T2 everything about it is great.
I agree on that. My main reason for the Fuji X-Pro 2 was to check the current technology of Hybrid VF, because Leica said they didn't include it in the M10 because they didn't find the technology/quality good enough.
It's not a clear viewfinder, and it sits so close to the edge of the body that light from outside tend to blind you when you try to look into the VF in sunshine.
I'm about to pick up an XPro 2 to supplement my Leica Q. I suspect the color will drive me crazy ha.
Love your relaxing review. What are you using for the 2nd camera that's in black and white. Really silky bokeh!!!!
Thats a Sony camera doing the b&w side view
Thorsten, did you continue with the Xpro2 and did you produce more videos on using it ?
Love your videos Thorsten! i was waiting for Fuji review from you as a Leica photographer.. I will be checking your website too
Acros is not the name of a hip hopper hahaha
Fariz Shakir I can’t tell if he was trying to be funny when he said he didn’t know what Acros was🤔
agree with you about all the the buttons and wheels
I'm about to receive a GX85 from eBay (I hear the postal chick's rattly truck right now).
One reason I picked it was fewer such buttons & switches, tilting LCD, and still a Leica-type form factor. We'll see if it does what I hope it does.
Only thing, the smaller M4:3 sensor kind of bothers me. It might still be capable of better photos than I am, though!
Welcome to the Fuji family, I'm sure you are going to love the experience.
In my film days, I shot with Nikon SLR and Leica rangefinder 35mm cameras.
In the digital age, I shot with Nikon dSLR and Fuji mirrorless cameras.
I shot with the Fuji X-Pro1 and X-Pro2 Fuji mirrorless as I waited for Leica to introduce a digital rangefinder that I liked. In 2017, the Leica M10 seemed to be close to the Leica rangefinder for which I had been waiting. Regretfully, my black M10 was defective and I had to send it back to Leica for a refund.
This month, I bought a chrome M10. I hope I will have more luck with this one than I did with the first one.
It's good to try it even if you are a leica user. The bottom line is to use the Fuji x-pro 2 with the leica lens for different photographic results?
My bottom line is that Fuji with Fuji lenses are a good result. Fuji with Leica lenses are mostly not a great result because the Fuji lenses works great with the help of software correction for the lens.
Im just curious as this Video title Fujifilm X-Pro2 vs Leica, i wonder which Leica model camera is the Fujifilm X-Pro2 counterpart in terms of quality shot and over all photo results.
Thank you for commentary on the Fuji especially in comparing color quality to your Leica's. Leica color rendition is always unique. I'm looking forward to other photos with the Fuji. Your videos are beautifully shot. What cameras do you use for your videos?
the videos are done on Sony and Canon by www.darecinema.com
Who the best camera for image quality Fujifilm xpro 2 vs leica vario 107?
Thank you for that great talk, I appreciate you go right to the point and divide into sections. I just have a question for you.
What would you say about the dynamic range the Fuji has with the APS-C sensor with respect to the full-frame sensor on the Leica M9?
surprised that Thorsten is testing out a Fuji........but I know why, I have seen that Fugi makes some really beautiful bodies, really vintage like with all the dials up there like old SLRs, rangefinders etc, love the black and silver colors and really good lenses, better in looks than olympus. i had picked up a XT-2 and really enjoyed its shape and design, loved that short handgrip cause it did not make it look like a DSLR, nice solid built cameras. I love Leica's more not because of price but because its a more of a pure design, less bottons, beautiful image quality etc. It just works and engages you more than you would with other brands because of what it may be leaking in.
Hello Thorsten. Will there be a follow-up video or post on your website? As others have said below, would be very interesting to see what your observations are being both an accomplished pro and a Leica Ambassador.
Did you make a follow-up video on this subject?
Thanks for the video. Love your channel and your works. May I know which video cameras and lens did you shoot this with?
Thanks a lot!
Do you suggest first camera is to get a fixed zoom/prime lens camera like Panasonic Lumix LX10/Sony RX100 V/RX10 IV or get a interchangeable lens camera like Fuji XE3 first?
Up to peoipole themself. I prefer fixed lens so one learn to "see 35mm" or "see 50mm". Zoom lenses tend to make one stand still and zoom till the frame fits, instead of composing with the eyes and feet.
What’s your thought on X Pro 3?
In shot, the same, but improved technology. The thinking in terms of user interface is the same.
LOL, You didn't know what Acros was? Probably one of the best if not the best B&W emulsion ever invented. An Orthopanchromatic emulsion with a pronounced dip in the green/cyan region of its spectral response curve which made great separation of tones in the foliage and the sky. It also had zero reciprocity failure compensation to exposure up to 120s of measured exposure time. I am not 100% convinced that film emulation works in digital ( a film can have many looks depending on how it was exposed and developed ) but it is an effect and Fuji's is not a bad one .The review though was spot on. Thanks.
Hello Thorsten, an interesting video. You raise some good points. The predecessor, (the X-pro 1) is a much simpler and intuitive camera to operate, less thrills and sub menus and more in-keeping with the Leica system. I actually find the sensor output more to my liking. It rewards creativity. Have you tried it?
No, I didn't try the X-Pro1. I did spend a morning coffee time counting menu points and sub-menus on the X-Pro2 and did the same on the Leica M10 and Leica Q and Leica TL2 to compare in the article. The Fuji X-Pro 2 is fundamentally a good camera. Made complicated, but fundamentally good.
Well done Thorsten (as usual) ! I still (happily) use my X100T alongside my Leica M-P and I remember how impressive was the XF 56mm f/1.2 mounted on my former Fuji XT-1: great performances for a reasonable price. Keep up the good job ciao ;-)
Thank you!
Love the photos in Havana
Hello Thorsten, I didn't see the X-pro2 review on your website. Is a review forthcoming?
It's coming ...
Unfortunately you have chosen the wrong title for you XPRO 2 review (not vs) but that's maybe good as I was anxious you would have to say that xpro2 is good but Leica is better... I have xpro1 and xpro2 and love them, but would love a Leica SL too if I could afford it:-)'
Where do I get that nice smal White balande card? Love your videos keep going
What camera straps do you use? I’ve been looking for a solid leather strap like the ones you have. Wonderful videos, and I’m thankful to hear on the way you approach a photo and view light. Super inspiring
I use Rock'n'Roll Straps, and I make my own "Always Wear A Camera" brand as well
rocknrollstraps.com
www.alwayswearacamera.com
Hello Thorsten. The reason I am interested in seeing the Fuji-Leica comparison is that in my experience each camera has its own color palette. They render colors in their own default way. There is difference in Panasonic versus Fuji, or Sony versus Olympus. And although all color rendition can be tweaked in a different direction it takes quite a bit of work to do so. In the past, photographers used different films for their pallete and characteristics, i.e., Kodachrome, versus Ektachrome, etc. The digital Leica has its own way of rendering colors. That is what I am interested in. By the way do you typically rely on the JPG or do you always use the RAW (Leica DNG) to arrive at the final image?
Yes, each new version of sensor (even within the same brand) renders colors their own way. If you then edit the pictures "your way" they may eventually end up looking the same despite the sensor difference. You could also have a sensor you just can't tame and get your look from.
The M9 had very distinct colors because Leica tuned it to look as close as Kodachrome as they could (the did the same with the DMR digital back they made with Imacon and Kodak for the Leica R9). The M240 was different, and the M10 is tuned towards the M9 colors again.
Ironically, the colors of the sensor is to a very large degree defined by the camera profile used by LR and other editing software (which translated the sensor data to colors).
Interesting info: The TL2 camera system makes use of the same Maestro II technology as is used for the Leica SL camera, and DNG files are 14 bit as well. A TL2 menu option allows the user to choose compressed or not compressed.
Great vid! The what balance card, was it about only the Gray colour or did the black and white referance help for the adjustments too(that where o yojr card) ? if yes then do u have a linked where to buy that cool one you have ;) ?
The WhiBal® card you can find at their website whibal.com or BH photo and similar. It's the neutral tone of the grey that is important, not that it is grey. They added black and white, centimeters, inches and other stuff ... well, nobody knows why. It's the neutral are of the card (which happens to be grey) you use to "calibrate" the sensor to natural colors.
Good afternoon, I am in process of either getting the graphite xpro 2 or maybe the Leica Q. Since you have experience with both, what would be your advise? I don’t do video. Thanks a lot
Leica Q any day, even a second-hand Leica Q which there are many these days where people upgrade to the 47MP Leica Q2. The Q is a great camera.
@@MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard thanks a lot!
I love my X-Pro2 and the 16mm. .
and what camera and lens did you use to shoot this video.?
the B&W are magnificent .!
Try also the X-100F with the 23mm fixed lens with a leaf shutter you will be surprised.
More considering going up in models. I tired the X-100 when it came out, vrery briefly, and didn't feel attracted.
"I opened up the box, set the camera down on the table and immediately read the manual" - said no man ever.
I signed up for the newsletter but I havent received the ebook yet. How will it be delivered?
Well done Thor ! Could you share please where did you got those nice leather straps ?
The straps are mostly from Rock'n'Roll Straps in Greece
Hello , if you are familiar with the X100V , how does this compare to your Leica Q2 ?, I cannot decide which has the edge , without looking at price.
when will we see the second part of this review ?
tx very much, mr von Overgaard. if you do not mind me asking a beginner's q: when u use that white balance card (12:42) to get color right: is the light that is reflected by that card (assuming this is what makes the card work) a sort of average representation of all the light that one wants to deal with? again, thank you.
Yes, to get neutral colors you would have top pick up the light of the main subject. In front of the face, and NOT unwanted reflections from the blue sky, a yellow wall to the left, etc, but the overall light that hits the face.
The light is distinct different in sunshine and in shadow, and in each different location in a street.
When I walk about photographing in daylight, I will usually set it to auto white balance. Onlywhen I want precise colors, I will set the WB manually with the card (a portrait, a product photo, architecture, etc).
Someone said here that "when you shoot raw, it doesn't matter". But the way it DOES matter is that if you don't set the WB, you will have to guess and adjust the raw file without knowing the right colors. With the WhiBal card you get a standard neutral color setting and can make artistic changes to that.
again, thank you - for your clear reply!
I used to think Fujifilm rangefinder style cameras would be the gateway drug to Leica but I discovered it's a fine goldilocks drug all on it's own. I have an X Pro 1 and the newer X Pro 2. Thanks for your user report and looking forward to future videos.
Thank you!
I have an xpro2 with 23mmf1.4, i was / am considering trading in for a used M9 - good idea / bad idea? someone please advise!
What feels right will be the right thing to do. If Leica seems the ultimate rangefinder, that's likely the way it goes.
I use an Xpro2 for more than 2 years and decided to go with the "Myth". So i have since couple of days a beautiful Leica M10 in my bag with the "fantastic" Summicron 50mm f/2 V5. The look is great, the camera is heavy (worth the money !) but the images around 6400 iso are very desapointing. In low light, the images are far better with the Fuji Xpro2 coupled with the Fujinon f/1.4 at f/2 than this M10. Maybe 5 or 6 years are century in term of sensor quality ? Anyway, the auto white balance is esoteric with sometimes a yellowish outputs, when the Fuji is terribly accurate. The colour science of Fuji jpg simulations put this camera at the highest level. I rarely need to spend time with the RAW file, when the DNG files required it more often.
The lack of a real way to focus on this M10 make a lot of photos in low light or certain situations impossible to take. Except if you needed an "artistic" result ! My 70/80 Nikons or the Xpro2 has a better optical viewfinder. For exemple, when you shoot in "manual" with the M10 you have just an arrow telling you that you're higher or lower the the exact exposure, when the Xpro display a graduated ruler telling you how much stops you're from the good exposure. Don't forget the f**** access to the ISO !
So I ask myself what make impossible to Leica to add a good EVF, a better sensor and friendly access to some jpg tweaking.
So maybe the Q line will works better for me or maybe waiting for the futur Fuji X-pro4 hoping that they put on it some of the mood of the M10 like less buttons.
Anyway, I don't regret at all my purchase. The Leica is a masterpiece of craftmanship. And it force me to be more attentive when taking the images.
Isn't that 35mm Fuji lens also a cropped 35mm (50-ish) on the X-pro2 body? I don't get that part when you say that 35 is 35....
I agree with you, it seemed like an incorrect statement because it doesn’t match my understanding of what 35mm means. I know that Fuji does not label/name for “FF equivalent” so it’s a real 35mm. It would have the same crop
Must say Thorsten, I love your videos and when you share your perspective. Bravo on taking on a new kit like the x-pro 2 to truly get to understand it 😀
When were you in LA? I recognize that mural with the dog, it's near Griffith Park.
I come and go, the pictures in there is from Cuba in March and LA in April I think.
One thing I can agree 100% is that camera should be simple! We the Fuji users are pushing for a simpler version of all the lines, specially, xpro line but unfortunately Fuji doesn't listen for whatever reason.
The second booklet came with your camera, it is not to show what has changed since release of xpro1 but it gives information for its new firmware, the version 2! Fuji has a fantastic habit of upgrading their firmware with new abilities for the camera during the life of the camera!
Doesn't want to read the manual, faults the camera because he didn't want to read. Next...
How does it work with Leica M lenses? Any issues with wide angle ones? Thank you