Pokemon Is Getting Paid DLC and I Am Heavily Conflicted

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  • @jimdapandaman
    @jimdapandaman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2418

    I love how Nintendo continue to support you and you’re not afraid to criticise them, good to see a creator who doesn’t just praise everything they do and to have Nintendo continue to send them copies of games

    • @crazyfire9470
      @crazyfire9470 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Good promotion

    • @cactusalucano4013
      @cactusalucano4013 4 ปีที่แล้ว +116

      The Poketubers are quaking.

    • @donaldmacisaac8479
      @donaldmacisaac8479 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Nintendo only sends him free stuff for the promotion. If they if away a $60 USD game, it hopefully would convince more people to buy the game.

    • @Zoroark_Master
      @Zoroark_Master 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Well GF is kinda is own things, not directly owned by Nintendo themselves

    • @jman72898
      @jman72898 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Because Nintendo’s not a group of bigots thankfully

  • @dannybright8708
    @dannybright8708 4 ปีที่แล้ว +962

    I’m just glad they’re not doing that “release another game with minimal added content at full price” bullshit they did with USUM.
    Although it is kinda sad my expectations sank this low in the first place tbh

    • @pokemonbeing3283
      @pokemonbeing3283 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@leeeroyjenkins555 But it they had done some ultra sword/shield it would have been 120. It sucks but it could suck even more. Also I think this extra content is better than USUM extra content but yeah that's not saying much.

    • @darcidious99
      @darcidious99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@leeeroyjenkins555 To be fair (and I hate defending this at all) this has already beaten out USUM and most of the "sister" game titles, apart from BW2 and maybe platinum.
      It's still bullshit, but $90 for this is worth more than $80 for the others... Apart from again BW2/plat (maybe emerald).

    • @piyushmenon4987
      @piyushmenon4987 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That's true. They should have priced it at 10 or 15 bucks for all of them, or at least 15 bucks each.

    • @tardigrade9343
      @tardigrade9343 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      sp am he meant you pay 60 for the base game and 30 for the expansion, which is 90 in total. For ONE version, so we‘re talking about 180 dollars here if you want both. There are two season passes, one for each game.
      And the difference to the traditional third version is that you can‘t resell or borrow it to someone, you don‘t own it physically and the traditional third versions allowed you to skip the base game because it included the full story. Let that think in.

    • @stealthlock6634
      @stealthlock6634 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      GameFreak makes me say the phrase “at least” way too much.

  • @Neoxon619
    @Neoxon619 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1369

    I’m glad they’re doing DLC over a third version, but the fact that the base game was rushed out the door in the state that we got it in has me feeling conflicted about some of the content in the pass.
    If nothing else, at least Crazy Diamond & Jammin' Pearl will have more time in the oven.

    • @marciamakesmusic
      @marciamakesmusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +162

      That's the comparison they want you to make so it seems better. Bottom line is that it's still anti consumer and shady, and they said a few months ago they didn't plan on adding Pokemon as DLC

    • @PrivateCTO
      @PrivateCTO 4 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      Meanwhile I was holding out on swsh and waiting for the third version. Now I have to pay $90 instead of the $60 I would have for a full third game.

    • @Infrared-nyne
      @Infrared-nyne 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@PrivateCTO yessss. Exactly. Now I feel like the dumb one who let everyone get a head start on gen 8 all because I was holding out for Pokemon Gun just for it to be dlc instead. I hate Gamefreak. I'll stick with Z moves and megas

    • @firesnakex8
      @firesnakex8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@PrivateCTO Exactly. People think having DLC is cheaper, but having a third version is much more cheaper

    • @Infrared-nyne
      @Infrared-nyne 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      So it says 200 returning pokemon are coming. Does that mean there are STILL missing pokemon after the dlc?

  • @christiank.3034
    @christiank.3034 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1946

    Gamefreak: we cut out pokemon to balance online battling
    Also Gamefreak: adds Landorus back in

    • @yosh9192
      @yosh9192 4 ปีที่แล้ว +177

      They also added Heatran and the Tapus or healthy meta.
      And we already know Garchomp is back, and they gave Incineroar really good new moves like Parting Shot and Close Combat.
      B A L A N C E D

    • @Shinius
      @Shinius 4 ปีที่แล้ว +235

      The way TPC/GF handled the cut Pokemon reminds me of kids who didn't do their homework. They gave like 4 different reasons that all conflict with one another and they're hoping it sticks. When just one would actually be stronger. No one believes your dog ate it, also your mom had a heartattack, but also you had a blackout.
      It's for balance! As the initial launch wasn't balanced despite the smaller roster meaning easier time balancing.
      It's for the lore! Except notable UK themed Pokemon were missing from previous generations.
      It's for the animations! Except the animations outside of a few in camp were lacking.
      It's for better diversity, like in BW! Except there are tons of previous gen Pokemon shoved in your face and the god damn Ace of the champion is a Gen 1, way to highlight Galar Pokemon.
      We all know it's because you were rushed and just didn't have time to make it a complete game...

    • @MrPhobble
      @MrPhobble 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      ez $

    • @seraphinw1
      @seraphinw1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      We already knew that explanation was bullshit when they let Ferrothorn and Toxapex in without any of their old counters

    • @mangamandrew
      @mangamandrew 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Shinius The last three are not fair critiques. There is more diversity and the animations were improved. That is just cherry picking and does not represent the big idea. There was more diversity as you did not see the same three to four Pokémon in one area. And the camping animation was Improved as well as select move animations. Sure, not all the animations are significantly improved but there was improvements over all. Also, they did not add Pokémon that are specific to the UK because most of the new Pokémon fit those roles. You don’t need all UK Pokémon in a game to feel like UK like you don’t need the sun and moon Pokémon in Pokémon sun and moon.

  • @stealthlock6634
    @stealthlock6634 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2227

    I wish GameFreak didn’t make me say the phrase “At least” so much.
    Edit: Everyone reply with your favorite “at leasts”

    • @davidarenas2500
      @davidarenas2500 4 ปีที่แล้ว +359

      Trying to find something good in somethng mediocre makes you say that phrase a lot

    • @oldoutlet6946
      @oldoutlet6946 4 ปีที่แล้ว +182

      At least it's better than saying "They screwed over the franchise" over and over again.

    • @aysaqchaudhry6054
      @aysaqchaudhry6054 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      @@oldoutlet6946 You said it.

    • @ShinyMew151
      @ShinyMew151 4 ปีที่แล้ว +223

      I find myself saying "hopefully the next game..." so many times.

    • @stealthlock6634
      @stealthlock6634 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Rae Mercier There’s that phrase again! “AT LEAST”

  • @JeromeSankara
    @JeromeSankara 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1257

    This is inexcusable.
    Now there will be no Pokemon Gun.

    • @pope88fb
      @pope88fb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Would have been an arch, anyway...

    • @rainpooper7088
      @rainpooper7088 4 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      Pokémon Nuke. You get to visit the Kanto region, but it’s dead.

    • @kadencrafter78
      @kadencrafter78 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That could be pretty interesting

    • @amandapaschoalsereia
      @amandapaschoalsereia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Intelion is the pokemon gun.

    • @fairiesandlillies3471
      @fairiesandlillies3471 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Part 3 gun Island 🤣

  • @jamesfilms_
    @jamesfilms_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +228

    I think one of 3 things needs to happen:
    • Stop yearly releases. They clearly need longer to work on the games
    • Look for other studios to develop Pokémon games (yeah it sucks but I feel like we’re at GameFreaks limits)
    • Or GameFreak has to “get good”, really focus on Pokémon and not develop other demanding games _cough_ *_town_*

    • @gligarguy4010
      @gligarguy4010 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I agree with stopping yearly releases for main games - just release spinoffs in off years (like how a new Mario game is guaranteed every year but it's not always a new platformer)
      The second one really ain't gonna happen since GF isn't going to give up their portion of the rights to the franchise.
      The only way to convince GF to "get good" is to vote with your wallet - I doubt they even know people hate Sw/Sh because of how much money it's made so far (well, we'll get official numbers on 1/31).

    • @Chadfill8348
      @Chadfill8348 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They actually don't need to hire another studio, they could simply hire more people

    • @sawyerthe4561
      @sawyerthe4561 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hope releasing a full fledged Pokémon game, and next year being DLC, becomes a tradition so Gamefreak can have more time to work on their games

    • @dafroakie9984
      @dafroakie9984 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well here's the thing: Pokemon is too backed up right now that I feel like it will be some time before they can actually delay anything. Not only do they have the games planned, but they have the things that actually make money. The anime, the card game, the toys, the spinoffs, so much stuff that you can't just delay it all.

    • @adrianjsf
      @adrianjsf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I feel tha the problem is in Pokémon company,not in game freak. Now more and more resources are being take from the GF and goes to proyects like Pokémon Go,Pokémon sleep,Pokémon home...profitable things. Pokémon does not move as much money as it used to be and I think they are giving lees resources to Game freak

  • @hotdiddykong2
    @hotdiddykong2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +787

    DLC instead of a third version = Awesome
    Charging $30 when the main game is barebones for $60 = this is the problem

    • @electrokineticphenomenon8800
      @electrokineticphenomenon8800 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      When did they say that dlc is replacing the sequel/third version model?

    • @bewarebewear1507
      @bewarebewear1507 4 ปีที่แล้ว +110

      @@electrokineticphenomenon8800 literally in the direct

    • @xinf3ctdx
      @xinf3ctdx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +140

      @@xanderszunsol9963 Yeah, and wasn't Zelda BOTW a complete product without the DLC? Weren't older previous Pokemon games more complete than Sword and Shield, despite costing $40 instead of $60? Maybe people are calling it overpriced because the full game costs $60 and we're paying half the price of said full game to get content that doesn't even come close to half of what we got in the base game. Maybe people didn't have a problem with Zelda doing this because they felt like it earned it by being a great and satisfying game. Maybe people have a problem with Sword and Shield doing it because it was a halfassed product and we're paying more money just to make the game we already paid for feel more complete.

    • @xinf3ctdx
      @xinf3ctdx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      @@xanderszunsol9963 And like I said, maybe people thought that Zelda earned it because it was such a good game from the get-go. I'm willing to spend money on a good product, and I'll be willing to keep supporting it if it deserves it. The DLC was overpriced? Maybe, but I'm willing to let it slide since the main game clearly had a TON of effort and love put into it and, more importantly, since I didn't feel like I got cheated or ripped off with the base game.
      And Pokemon's DLC will be worth it? How? We're getting two new wild areas, new customization options, access to older Pokemon that should've been in the base game to begin with, access to G-Max forms that should've been in the base game to begin with, access to Galarian Pokemon that should've been in the base game to begin with, and what else? New NPC's? Yeah, that TOTALLY sounds worth half the price of a full fucking game. $20. I'd be willing to pay $20 for that, at most. And even then, I probably still wouldn't buy it because Sword and Shield doesn't deserve my support. I could get better, more complete games for $20. I could get multiple good, complete games for $30... and you have the balls to sit here trying to tell me that this DLC looks like it'll be worth $30 when most of the shit in it that matters was clearly ripped out of the already overpriced base game.
      And nobody gives a shit about why Switch games are more expensive. The problem isn't that Sword and Shield are $60. The problem is that they were halfassed while being sold for $60. The problem is that I can go back to Platinum or Black/White and get a more complete experience for less money than I can with Sword and Shield. I don't care if they're going to charge $60 for their fucking games if they put in the effort to match that. We're going to get charged $60 for this piss-easy, low quality game with a garbage story and no postgame, and we're only going to get access to a fraction of the Pokedex? And we aren't even going to get the G-Max versions of the game's starters? And we aren't even going to see all of the new Pokemon, either? I'm gonna have to pay a subscription on top of everything else if I want to use the full GTS? If I want to transfer my Pokemon from older games? Like, what? And I don't really care if they release a new Pokemon game every year because THEY DON'T HAVE TO. If Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee being skipped over would mean that Sword and Shield would've been better games, then I'm sure that plenty of people would've been fine with that. They're putting these time restraints on themselves and then the games suffer in terms of quality. How is that my problem? How is that anyone's problem other than Gamefreak's? They don't have the time to make Sword and Shield good games, but they had all the time in the world to implement "Camping with your Pokepals." Sure.
      Do me a favor and fuck off if you're just going to make excuses for this scam of a game.

    • @rapidrotation
      @rapidrotation 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I can't believe Sw/Sh is just the Pokemon version of Destiny.

  • @hotdiddykong2
    @hotdiddykong2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +762

    “Maybe next gen it’ll be more substantial”
    We’ve been hearing the same sentence for 6 years now, this is becoming a problem

    • @clamthechef2389
      @clamthechef2389 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      You think we would have notice it by now.

    • @ChangedMyNameFinally69
      @ChangedMyNameFinally69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@clamthechef2389 That's the true problem with Dexit. The same people complaining about Pokemon now were defending it constantly and calling critics like me Genwunners. They don't get the right to complain now, they made their bed. Now sleep in it.

    • @Gattsu_the_struggler
      @Gattsu_the_struggler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is a problem*

    • @anthonygrenier2812
      @anthonygrenier2812 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@ChangedMyNameFinally69 that's trash logic

    • @ChangedMyNameFinally69
      @ChangedMyNameFinally69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@anthonygrenier2812 No it isn't, they don't have right to be critical

  • @justin.m5872
    @justin.m5872 4 ปีที่แล้ว +513

    I’m really conflicted because Gamefreak invents a problem only to sell us the solution.
    You only see this from the likes of EA, Activision and Ubisoft.

    • @tornadomimicyclone6707
      @tornadomimicyclone6707 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Bethesda needs to have a word with you

    • @jumpyman9754
      @jumpyman9754 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Do the games have lootboxes and othe micro transactions?

    • @Tman-gt7fk
      @Tman-gt7fk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What’s wrong with Activision

    • @Tman-gt7fk
      @Tman-gt7fk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And Ubisoft

    • @captainhyrule5146
      @captainhyrule5146 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The returning Pokémon are part of a free update

  • @FactswithKat
    @FactswithKat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +531

    Arlo, the reason we didn’t believe it won’t happen is because they specifically said that pokemon doesn’t fit the DLC style.
    Although, they also said they cut the pokemon for balance reasons and... there comes the legendary pokémon marching in

    • @clamthechef2389
      @clamthechef2389 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Pokemon sure doesn't make sense alot of the times. It must be the contrary ability being passed down.

    • @Duskool
      @Duskool 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Ah yes, let's cut pokemon for balance but let's add Landorus, and the other legends, back. Because legendaries are the most interesting pokemon of all.

    • @kionashi
      @kionashi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      remmember when Nintendo said they can't conceive a new Zelda game without the Wii swordplay gimmick?

    • @victorhugocosta1127
      @victorhugocosta1127 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@BlueAizu_ I mean, it's like the most logical path for them to take. Seriously, a Pokemon MMO would solve most of their problems

    • @benthecrusherofbooty676
      @benthecrusherofbooty676 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Duskool they are adding 200 oldies also.

  • @toolu
    @toolu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +938

    It would be fine if the core game wasn’t considered half finished by many.

    • @Matatoskr
      @Matatoskr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +111

      @@monkeyking9863 u speak as if sword and shield is the norm. However compared to the 3ds pokemon games. It has the least post game content. Well besides x and y but that is probly the worst pokemon game

    • @tyree403
      @tyree403 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      @@monkeyking9863 Pokemon has basically been the same in design for the last 20 years. It's super stale. Of course, we're expecting more. I was expecting Sword and shield to change up the formula significantly and bring me back into pokemon. ( Haven't played any PM game in over ten years. ) Good thing I didn't buy that garbage. Just by looking at the reviews and trailers, the game didn't look too great. The game is painfully mediocre and most enjoyed by the fans who prefer a traditional, casual pokemon experience while the hardcore crowd looking for difficulty, strategies, and challenges be ignored.

    • @Matatoskr
      @Matatoskr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@monkeyking9863 it is true that pokemon is not known for its post game content. BUT COMPARED TO ALL THE 3DS GAMES. Sword and shield has the least post game content. All it has is the battle tower but u can finish that before u get the legwndairy. Oras had quite some post game content that kept me busy for a long time. Ultra sun and moon had the battle tower, ultra beasts to hunt and the wormholes, which is meh. But then sword and shield has nothing. You could argue that gmax pokemon and raids are the new wormholes but u can do it from the start. The towns and routes are legit all 1 road. Which means you cant go back and explore them unlike the previous games. But now u payed more for the game, and basically got less. Now u gna pay even more for the game to actually have any post game content.

    • @TheSorrel
      @TheSorrel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The DLC is actually fine and exactly what DLC is supposed to be in this types of games.
      Yes, GF was obviously in over their heads when they made Sw/Sh, and you could argue that they should release the DLC for free to get some good will back from the fans, but in and of itself the DLC looks fone and worth the 30 bucks.

    • @Matatoskr
      @Matatoskr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheSorrel definitly. Dlc is worth it. And i hope they do this next year as well. But i feel the 1st half of the dlc should of been free or part of the game.

  • @haydenjacoby3927
    @haydenjacoby3927 4 ปีที่แล้ว +482

    $60 for less.
    $90 for slightly less.
    For $40 release year, SoulSilver and Heartgold had all that and relatively more.
    I miss Shigeki Morimoto.

    • @beanburrito4405
      @beanburrito4405 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Yeah, I’ll probably just replay HGSS or something instead of buying this $90 schlock

    • @3DSte1985
      @3DSte1985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Gold and Silver are the only Pokemon games that evolved without losing content.

    • @QwertyCaesar
      @QwertyCaesar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@3DSte1985 You're kidding right? G/S/C had about as much content overall as R/B/Y did. You just didn't notice because it was split over two regions that individually were more sparse than Gen I Kanto was and was the firstntitlento divide it into pre-game and post-game. It was more like 6:4 Johto:Kanto where later games were more like 8:2 with the pre-game and post-game.

    • @catlips6784
      @catlips6784 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I’m not thrilled about the way Gamefreak and The Pokémon Company has managed Sw&Sh, but I’m not against expansion packs as a concept. Getting expansions to a game every couple of months instead of half baked yearly releases seems like a decent trade off for me. It’s not ideal, of course but I’m cautiously optimistic.
      Either way, as long as they handle DLC like Botw did as opposed to Activision I’m pretty cool with it.

    • @ZimtikiBar
      @ZimtikiBar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Green the Ninja but they were so easy it was boring

  • @BlastingBloo
    @BlastingBloo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +919

    Remember when Arlo took some degree of issue with Kirby releasing FREE DLC after releasing a somewhat bare bones game?
    This makes that seem kind of quaint, huh.

    • @turtleanton6539
      @turtleanton6539 4 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      Really puts it in perspective

    • @ikatulo_yt
      @ikatulo_yt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Hahahaha

    • @90punk09
      @90punk09 4 ปีที่แล้ว +263

      BlastingBloo I think Arlo is against the idea of rushing out an unfinished game and then putting out the DLC later for what should've been there for the start, regardless if it's free or not

    • @MasonOfLife
      @MasonOfLife 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      But that Kirby game had extremely less value then Sword and Shield does (in my unpopular opinion)
      To me Sword and Shield was more than worth the money and DLC is great because it’s more content that I am am willing to pay for (as a person usually does...pays for the content in a video game)
      This direct was only good news for me (having Pokémon from old games isn’t really something I care about personally so keep that in mind)

    • @JamienautMark2
      @JamienautMark2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      b1gxb3n I think everyone on the planet should be against that. It’s bullshit that the industry has been at this point for years.

  • @masked-feraligatr1094
    @masked-feraligatr1094 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1294

    The best way I can sum up my opinions is:
    “Really good that they done it, really bad that they had to”

    • @aspookyladmusic4954
      @aspookyladmusic4954 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      And worse that they're charging so much for it.

    • @Drake00000010
      @Drake00000010 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aspookyladmusic4954 how much?

    • @kazuichisouda2026
      @kazuichisouda2026 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@Drake00000010 $30. It's not even a minute into the video.

    • @jarydbeebe2051
      @jarydbeebe2051 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Hopefully this means for the future, that we can get a very good base game (Think Black and White), good DLC to fill us in for a year (This seems pretty good with all new characters, area, and maybe a story), and still possibly get a 3rd version with all added content and new content on top of that

    • @Peasham
      @Peasham 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Hey kid.
      Here's a secret.
      They didn't have to.

  • @rochellepaws
    @rochellepaws 4 ปีที่แล้ว +435

    I'm really conflicted and unsure whether this is GF trying to fix the mistakes of Sword/Shield or a greed move by deliberately cutting content and pokemon to sell it as an expansion

    • @darkmoon2503
      @darkmoon2503 4 ปีที่แล้ว +118

      Considering past games, where you got more legendaries, more postgame, more explorability, and more lore with the initial purchase, this is probably a greed move.

    • @brandonbrown6922
      @brandonbrown6922 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@darkmoon2503 I mean, it's not like this is a new pattern exactly. If anything, if this was just a greed move, you'd think they'd stick to their original MO of releasing an entirely new game just to add maybe 10 hours worth of differences at full price.
      They're making LESS money this way, 120 > 90 after all.
      OTOH, yeah, if SwSh had been a more robust game on launch, this probably wouldn't feel half as skeevy.

    • @eosakurai
      @eosakurai 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @Brandon Brown Instead of before, when you could sell the "first version" to buy the "new" one, here you can't. Because you need the main game to use the expansion. And before, a game (here in europe) was costing around 40 to 45 €. You could go for a full adventure for the half of the 90€ needed here for the main game and the exepasion. So yeah, they are making a lot more money

    • @brandonbrown6922
      @brandonbrown6922 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@eosakurai They're still getting less money because they don't magically lose any when you sell a game secondhand.
      So, again, overall, they're making less with than their old system. You can argue the VALUE of what their selling, but the price tag for one generation of games seems to be on the way downwards.
      I'm still conflicted on this, since I actually think a season pass system is honestly preferable to the annual method they've got going on now, since, if they're just adding on to one game, they're not likely going to rip out good features for no reason like they have in the pass.
      OTOH, considering how others in the market have blundered in the past, with GameFreak seeming to have not learned anything from those mistakes, namely the whole "launch half-baked and fix with updates" routine that is growing very tiresome very quickly. Again, this would be a different issue if SwSh had been more robust and 'finished.'

    • @RC000000000
      @RC000000000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Clearly a greed move. It's the same with most games and companies these day.

  • @Protendo
    @Protendo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +976

    I see some people saying, “Oh, GameFreak has to make extra cash somehow!”
    You’re kidding, right?

    • @marciamakesmusic
      @marciamakesmusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +170

      They'll find any excuse to stay blind to the fact that they're getting scammed and robbed by the people who make Pokemon

    • @funkybunko
      @funkybunko 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      rugg1999 It isn’t a scam if you get what you were paying for, and it isn’t robbery if you are willingly buying it

    • @pumpkincat3291
      @pumpkincat3291 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      William Peterson idk if you watched the direct but they said there will be free updates so the extra pokemon ARE free and it’s exactly how you described, you pay for new places.......

    • @SpadonKing1996
      @SpadonKing1996 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @William Peterson the new pokemon are exclusive to the new area. In that case your comment doesn't make sense. The area should be paid according to you so the pokemon accompanying it are also paid. The other 200ish pokemon are free and can be transferred from older games.

    • @tristanneal9552
      @tristanneal9552 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      William Peterson That’s what it is...

  • @joshuagehner5096
    @joshuagehner5096 4 ปีที่แล้ว +262

    Gigantimax starters is something we should of had in the first place.

    • @eduardocherry7268
      @eduardocherry7268 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Josh Gehner I 100% thought it was gonna be the case until like the day before it came out

    • @Pebphiz
      @Pebphiz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @Major Thought Ahead I don't think laziness is the main issue. GameFreak isn't known to be a revolutionary developer, sure, but I think a forced yearly release schedule is what's holding the series back more than anything else. They can't do anything BUT cut corners and play it safe at that pace.

    • @jorgeyepez4122
      @jorgeyepez4122 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly

    • @animeking213
      @animeking213 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They probably have a list of 10 innovations they can do in one game but they want to spread it out in 11 games to maximize profit.

    • @g4ng5t4lk3r
      @g4ng5t4lk3r 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Most of what is in the dlc should’ve tbh.

  • @maskofthedragon
    @maskofthedragon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1529

    Y'know Jimbo, if the game had another year in the oven we should have had this content for free, Isn't that quacking crazy?

    • @luxioboy66
      @luxioboy66 4 ปีที่แล้ว +112

      This comment makes me happier.

    • @Goldfire345
      @Goldfire345 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Only problem is that couldn't have happened they had to get it out with the rest of the Pokémon media

    • @megamanx111
      @megamanx111 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Like Goldfire said pokemon CANNOt be delayed due to having to release when the anime moves to a new region.

    • @Goldfire345
      @Goldfire345 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@megamanx111 yeah truth be told they actually can delay these dlc if they need to now that the main game is out. the only time that a main game was delayed was gold and silver as far as i know and the anime had to make a filler region in the mean time untill it actually did come out which is how we got orange islands I highly doubt they can afford to do that again.

    • @stuffz1757
      @stuffz1757 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Yall would have just bitched that they were taking too long to make the game.

  • @thelenbax8497
    @thelenbax8497 4 ปีที่แล้ว +220

    This DLC feels like cut content :/

    • @starmanexe7721
      @starmanexe7721 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      You think its a coincidence that the core game feels so empty and then they announce paid DLC not even 2 months after the game comes out?

    • @littlefox_100
      @littlefox_100 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I prefer DLC don’t hate me

    • @thelenbax8497
      @thelenbax8497 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Littlefox I also prefer dlc but only when it’s clear that development started after the game was finished like the Witcher 3 or SSBU Fighter pass

    • @natsume-hime2473
      @natsume-hime2473 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@starmanexe7721 Since they're adding new separate areas, it doesn't feel too much like cut content. It's probably just that a lot of the ideas in both DLCs were probably intended for the games at launch and they just didn't have time to implement any of it before launch.

    • @danboom101
      @danboom101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@littlefox_100 I like DLC but not when it feels like the DLC belonged as part of the main game itself lol. Shouldn't have cost the same price as what we paid for an entire game 2 years ago to get the full game.

  • @anniecenter
    @anniecenter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +275

    Arlo, this is why you’re my favorite Nintendo TH-camr. You hit the nail right on the head. Thank you for always being fair, honest, and level headed.

    • @darkmoon2503
      @darkmoon2503 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Arlo has consistently impressed me ever since I found this channel.

    • @irishgavin6687
      @irishgavin6687 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He's my favorite gaming TH-camr is general.

    • @Zoroark_Master
      @Zoroark_Master 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except for most of is predictions
      (Still hurt by him saying Rex would be a shulk clone)

    • @Ray03595
      @Ray03595 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah he perfectly. Summed up the conundrum I also have with this DLC. It looks good, but the basegame is still half-assed and costs $60 so the (potentially) good part of this game is locked behind having to pay for a mediocre basegame. Oh, how I wish Gamefreak spent another year developing Sw/Sh.... would've avoided so much controversy.

    • @Zoroark_Master
      @Zoroark_Master 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ray03595 they literally couldn't delay the game

  • @TheDiego908
    @TheDiego908 4 ปีที่แล้ว +941

    "That's the cardinal sin of DLC, is holding back content to sell it later"
    Exactly why I don't care about this. Previous games already had areas like this for the postgame

    • @SeriousStriker
      @SeriousStriker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Not really though. The post game for Pokemon has always been shit since X and Y, this looks like a bigger postgame than HGSS and BW2 to me and those two were the biggest previously.

    • @TheDiego908
      @TheDiego908 4 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      I'm talking about new areas. GS, DP, BW and SM already had ones like these before. And those weren't even third versions.
      Also, what made the HGSS/Pt/B2W2 postgame good was the amount of harder and varied activities that added up to playtime on top of the new areas and features available to you. From the looks of it, there's no way this is not just a 4 hour cutscene-fest per DLC with old Pokemon added to them

    • @jaimichu9914
      @jaimichu9914 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Endgame in all pokemon games except third versions suck

    • @TheAbsol7448
      @TheAbsol7448 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      DLC can be done right. Nintendo really nails it, but Game Freak has no clue what they're doing.

    • @LenKirin
      @LenKirin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheDiego908 to me, each of those games' features and such are incredibly isolating from other people. Things like max raid battles have much more life in it to me, and GF having event raids in different points of time really gives this game more life than one might think. Having tried Platinum again, I realized I didn't like BF or Battle Zone as much as max-raid battles, where I could voice comm w my buddies on discord while fighting actual challenging raid bosses; it made me feel like I was in a real pokemon MMO. Don't get me wrong; the other games' post games are great w PWT and stuff like that, but none of them was ever as much fun as these raid battles. From the looks of it, these DLC packs seem to act like different wild areas too (especially the co-op stuff), which holds much more value to me than the post games of those 3rd versions. These are just my experiences, but I do hope you can see where I come from.

  • @cool23819
    @cool23819 4 ปีที่แล้ว +149

    keep in mind for future Nintendo related stuff: if they say they aren't going to do it, they're actually going to do it

    • @KairuHakubi
      @KairuHakubi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      has anyone else been caught in a lie? or is it just gamefreak
      which, lest we forget, is _bigger than nintendo._ pokemon is the biggest THING in the world.

    • @TheAbsol7448
      @TheAbsol7448 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This is Game Freak, not Nintendo.

    • @Peasham
      @Peasham 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@KairuHakubi Well, no, the Pokemon brand is bigger than Nintendo.
      GameFreak has a few hundred people working for it, and they're crunched to hell and back for every release because the people running it are horrible at their job.

    • @TheAwesomeDarkNinja
      @TheAwesomeDarkNinja 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Game Freak is the opposite. If they say they're going to do it, they aren't going to do it.

    • @TheAbsol7448
      @TheAbsol7448 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Peasham I don't actually believe that theyre6 that crunched because games likes Xenoblade have been made in less time.

  • @Cielle_Slime
    @Cielle_Slime 4 ปีที่แล้ว +231

    I'm not livid, I'm right on the edge of frustration with everyone else. They are pushing it just as far as they can before people are mad enough to stop buying.

    • @lotustree1125
      @lotustree1125 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      C.L. Cannon exactly, and it hurts my heart I love Pokémon, but they are slowly killing it!

    • @lorettabes4553
      @lorettabes4553 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@lotustree1125 Ikr! I agree. I've been a fan since Black and White. I hate these... forms. Others (creators) are being so hyped for it. We already had mega evolutions. Why do we need Dynamax forms? I won't even say anything about the new legendaries.
      I'm not giving Nintendo money anymore: not on Pokemon. I will get other games that are actually worth my money.

    • @MagcargoMan
      @MagcargoMan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Pokemon drones will never stop buying. Sword and Shield are the best-selling games in the series in the US. That says it all.

    • @pancake_butter4508
      @pancake_butter4508 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lorettabes4553
      Yeah. Might as well play Pokémon Platinum or Explorers of Time lol
      At least they are more exciting and share a better plot lmao

    • @theHedgex1
      @theHedgex1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Right I'm not buying the next game unless it's confirmed to have over 600 Pokemon in the base game. I still haven't bought the DLC but thinking of trading people for the new Pokemon.

  • @Tomathor13
    @Tomathor13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Yup conflicted sums it up perfectly. On one hand the stuff they showed looks cool and the galarian versions of the legendaries look really cool, but I can't shake this yucky feeling that this really ought to have been in the base game.

    • @thatsneakydude5316
      @thatsneakydude5316 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I mean, yeah I agree it COULD have been in the base game, but afterwards, this is sort of a great move that gamefreak has pulled in my opinion, this is way better than having to pay another $60 for the re-released verison of the game. Also pretty unrelated but I think the whole Pokémon community these days is a complete joke right now, both sides, doesn't matter who's right or who's wrong. Sorry if I somehow offended one of you, theres still great people in this community but I just can't take it anymore, seriously--

    • @thatsneakydude5316
      @thatsneakydude5316 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @The Real Litten Fan thats the same problem every dlc has and its unfortunate..

    • @Omnirok12
      @Omnirok12 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @The Real Litten Fan why cant you get an eshop card?

    • @dusk_infernape1158
      @dusk_infernape1158 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      sneaky guy Incorrect. It SHOULD have been in the base game.

    • @saitamasensei4508
      @saitamasensei4508 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @The Real Litten Fan you can make a PayPal account and use it for buying games. Just connect it with your bank and put into settings that you take money from there when you pay use PayPal.

  • @DubiousDoom
    @DubiousDoom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    The new content looks real fun.
    Just wish it had been included in the base game.

    • @WaterKirby1994
      @WaterKirby1994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You know they should sell those Eshop Cards at both GameStop & Walmart right? Agreed if it was in the base game it would have been worth paying $65 & waiting for the Christmas 2020 Season. These 3 year Generations are killing Pokemon, We waited 4 years for both Gens 4&5. Gen 5 was supposed to be 4 years for Japan, although the anime was so poorly done they had to rush out Gen 6 a full year earlier than planned. Gen 6 really should have lasted 4 full years although they got the idea of releasing Gen 7 for the series 20th Anniversary.
      The manga suffers worse than the games from this cycle we've been stuck with since Gen 5 which never even finished its manga. Gens 6 & 7 got severely rushed mangas all because Pokemon International is too impatient & greedy. As more species are added & tech becomes more advanced the wait between generations should be increasing, yet it isn't. The entire Dexit Argument I made was that Pokemon should be having new generations less frequently & eventually take a long break from introducing new species following Generation 12.

    • @InnerRise
      @InnerRise 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @The Real Litten Fan oh you have access. You just dont want to ask.

    • @peanutbrainedbuffoon7913
      @peanutbrainedbuffoon7913 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, they are making you pay to fix a problem that they purposefully created.

    • @Shakiahjprod
      @Shakiahjprod 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @The Real Litten Fan
      How old are you?

    • @flint857
      @flint857 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think everyone wishes we lived in an era where there was no dlc. Or better dlc. Or more integration. I personally liked replaying ff15 just to see what was added with every update. But the reality is these games are made by humans. Who are limited in time and money and have families that can easily get neglected if they dont balance work right. So they arent endless game making mechines. Well a few seem to be.... but even the new smash bros isnt perfect you could say everyone was there but not everyTHING. Its just silly what peoples expectations are for these games. Its likenthey dont expect pokemon to be pokemon any more or something. Or like they didnt just give us a major directional shift as to the next several console games. Theyve done a bunch, and provided hours of content to the widest audience nearly ever! Thats bannanas! I dont see the reason even to complain if your not enjoying it that doesnt mean they did a bad job. Whats you may not have been fulfilled but that doesnt mean millions of people arent. If anything its good that they took peoples main criticisms to heart. If anything this shows theyre listening. And who knows, maybe peoples clamor about wild areas is whats going to make the dlc even better than the base game. Because they could have done a silly linear plot thingy.

  • @OracleofWuffing
    @OracleofWuffing 4 ปีที่แล้ว +354

    If the Expansion Pass exceeds sales expectations: "Well, gee, this was a successful venture, we should cut pokemon all the time!"
    If the Expansion Pass does not meet sales expectaions: "Well, gee, nobody wants to pay to use all the pokemon, so I guess it's alright to cut even more pokemon!"
    This is a win-win for Masuda, and a lose-lose for me.

    • @Theron101
      @Theron101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@tasty_cactus "ok they seem to be fine with us cutting pokemon in future games and putting a few back for more cash!"

    • @kapi6449
      @kapi6449 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      2 months late, but the new Pokémon are basically free. You pay to obtain them in game, but the only price you pay is Pokémon home and your internet bill to transfer them over,

    • @Theron101
      @Theron101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@kapi6449 so not free

    • @kapi6449
      @kapi6449 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Malcolm Hutton nothing good is ever free

    • @Theron101
      @Theron101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@kapi6449 damn shame it isnt good then

  • @Wolf_Nanaki
    @Wolf_Nanaki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +250

    I feel the general consensus is that people would've been fine paying for DLC if the base game itself had been substantial. But Sword and Shield not only cutting out over half of the Pokedex and having not much more to replace it with left a LOT of people bitter.

    • @YujiUedaFan
      @YujiUedaFan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Yeah, they removed in the base game:
      Most Pokémon
      A lot of Moves
      Megas
      Z Moves
      The reason to explore past the first 20 mins in the wild area
      A way to turn off EXP Share
      The story
      Post-game exclusive Pokémon not found in the Region Dex (even SM had this)
      A decent Battle Tower clone
      The PokéPelago and replaced it with something 1/4 as good (I honestly think one of the tiny islands that never get used in Galar should have housed it.)

    • @mattstat716
      @mattstat716 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      The things Sword And Shield lets you do:
      use a nuke button for 3 turns
      grind for 1/2 a second basically to stuff your pokemon full of EXP
      catch some 'eh' pokemon
      enjoy the wild area for like, 5 minutes before realizing how boring and disjointed from the rest of the game it is
      gym battles. o n l y gym battles.

    • @grolcanschnitzel
      @grolcanschnitzel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not to mention the animations were the worst they’ve been in years

    • @greeneye2037
      @greeneye2037 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      lot not LOT.

  • @ImortalZeus13
    @ImortalZeus13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +557

    “Holding back the Pokédex was ingenious because when they come back it’s like a surprise.”
    “Artificially removing content means that it’s fun when they add it back in!”

    • @PlatinumAltaria
      @PlatinumAltaria 4 ปีที่แล้ว +122

      If I steal from you you will be much more appreciative of whatever I took.

    • @supersonic5644
      @supersonic5644 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      PlatinumAltaria honestly that statement right there changes my opinion on the matter

    • @TheAbsol7448
      @TheAbsol7448 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      THIS is why I'm so pissed off about it

    • @FoxJ10027
      @FoxJ10027 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      It was "ingenious" the same way Lex Luthor is "ingenious".

    • @Peasham
      @Peasham 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      And the best part is, you still have to pay to transfer your old Pokemon in.
      On top of a season pass.
      Amazing.

  • @xebatansis
    @xebatansis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +434

    If people keep buying, stuff like this is going to continue.

    • @jordangonzalez4658
      @jordangonzalez4658 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Sebastian Brinkmann but some people actually enjoy the game though. So your telling me don’t buy a game that we actually like lol.

    • @Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat
      @Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      I think this was the final, "I'm out" move from pokemon. I've been here since generation three and frequently bought multiple games a generation and most of the side games but everything pokemon has done recently has just felt like a cheap cash in. I passed on sword and shield so far and I think that was the right decision. I'm so very disappointed especially when zelda has one of the best games in the series, mario has it's best game in a long time, fire emblem looks great (I have been meaning to get it, just haven't had time or money with school), splatoon was great, and xenoblade was great. and most of those came out in the first year. Pokemon has had plenty of time to develop a great switch game and even had the let's go games to get a switch game engine running and it still feels like 2/3 of a normal pokemon game was made. The series has been slipping in quality for a while and I'm done excusing it. I'm just sad. Now I can add pokemon to the list of series I want to see return to their old glory along with paper mario (a third game like the first two please, at least like super paper mario if not), chibi-robo (hugely underrated original game in my opinion) and crash bandicoot and spyro (both remakes looked great but I would still like an actual continuation rather than just remakes. Still a good start though). Oddly, I think a good paper mario would make me the most excited (at least if it were like the original two).

    • @jordangonzalez4658
      @jordangonzalez4658 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Clockwork King yea a return to form for a paper Mario game would be awesome. Although maybe I’m liking Pokémon sword because I didn’t play all of them. I literally only beat sapphire and Pokémon x.

    • @santosic
      @santosic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@jordangonzalez4658 it's fine if you like the games and all, but you're missing the point; that kind of thinking is exactly why these shady greedy tactics keep on happening. The fact that they can include more content for the games proves that had they wanted to and taken the time to do so, they could have had a much more fuller game for $60 (which, I remind you, is $20 MORE than they usually cost, so it'd have made sense to get MORE content in the first place). Instead we got something that barely passes as complete, if that to be honest. Previous games have had more post game content than these do.
      That's what the problem here is, not the fact that the games aren't fun or that there shouldn't be updates to them.

    • @jordangonzalez4658
      @jordangonzalez4658 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Santos Chavez oh no your absolutely right, I’m one who hates when a game company releases dlc instead of a full experience. Although I hear people complain about different things for this game. Whether it be it wasn’t a full experience or because they took pass Pokémon out. So people seem to be upset about different things.

  • @UltraPrimeHunter
    @UltraPrimeHunter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    At least with the third version games you could skip the initial release and buy the complete game. Now theyre charging 90$ for a complete experience.

    • @velvetphi
      @velvetphi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That was my plan with Sword and Shield. Amazingly enough, Game Freak has still managed to disappoint me on this front. Hooray for a $90 game.
      Yay.

    • @ego2133
      @ego2133 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly!

    • @justinj_00
      @justinj_00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It's their loss from me, while I was planning on spending $60 for the complete third version, I am now spending $0

    • @solidillusion8008
      @solidillusion8008 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yea this really sucks for those who were waiting on the third version, like a slap in the face almost, cuz by now people knew gamefreak always made a third of the same game, so if people wanted complete experience they could simply just wait. But I guess not no more lol , i guess this also means we will keep the crappy story from og sword an shield then , i did not like the story at all

    • @beedrillbot121
      @beedrillbot121 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      DRM Sparkles it said in the trailer 30$ per dlc so your basically just buying a third version anyways

  • @superalsters3484
    @superalsters3484 4 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    So now we have to basically have to pay $90 for a $40 game, yeah that makes sense.

    • @connorj2355
      @connorj2355 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just wait for sales on eBay or something, I dunno. The game is about $50 now.

    • @RayoMcQueen95990
      @RayoMcQueen95990 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      9600GTMAN yep, with the dlc included, 250 of the 807 pokemon(from old gens) will be missing still

    • @AkaiAzul
      @AkaiAzul 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Now you’re thinking like a shareholder!

    • @X3nophiliac
      @X3nophiliac 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think its more $60 for a $40 game and a $90 for a $60 game

  • @cloudycanine9682
    @cloudycanine9682 4 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    Here I am just wondering when they’re gonna improve the non-existent online functionality where finding others to play with is impossible

    • @PlatinumAltaria
      @PlatinumAltaria 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Lol no have fun with GALARIAN KRABBY

    • @thebigskip-e
      @thebigskip-e 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oh geez, yes. They put in co op modes in the expansion pass. It would be a sacrilege if it didn't work even after a new mode was added

    • @lukeharrison2661
      @lukeharrison2661 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I doubt it

    • @omegae_1233
      @omegae_1233 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Not exactly an exploit, but I've found a way to "force" the game to search for more players doing raid battles. If you put up a surprise trade, the game will search for another trainer to trade with. While it's doing this it's also refreshing all other posts people are making, including raids. Because of this, if you stay in the communication tab or go in and out of it, the game will never actually find another trade partner and you can keep refreshing till you find a raid to join. Yes you'll still get the stupid "No communication partner" error a lot when trying joining one, but I've found this method to be far better than just waiting for people.

    • @switchplayer1016
      @switchplayer1016 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've been trying for days to find real people instead of AI partners to beat that fucking gigantamax Snorlax. The computer generated players are terrible.

  • @BeTheHero905
    @BeTheHero905 4 ปีที่แล้ว +264

    I totally understand what you’re saying Arlo. But personally, I’m really excited for the mystery dungeon remake

    • @windwaker0rules
      @windwaker0rules 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      that is basically another game by another company

    • @dutczar5436
      @dutczar5436 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      @@windwaker0rules And with what GameFreak has been doing, "another company" is exactly what we need.
      Even if GF cares about Pokemon, they just aren't doing it well.

    • @bma9556
      @bma9556 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Me too , I'm actually playing the original on my ds right now and it's a lot of fun

    • @TSPH1992
      @TSPH1992 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Never played a mystery dungeon game, but the remake looks promising

    • @couchgamingnews9379
      @couchgamingnews9379 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yikes

  • @gilbertocaldeira5935
    @gilbertocaldeira5935 4 ปีที่แล้ว +403

    Tbh I didn't even care after they announced a remake of PMD, I was SO happy I basically screamed on my screen, PMD is not dead so now I can basically live in peace

    • @Nic5Cyprus
      @Nic5Cyprus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Oh hey it's the extra news guy

    • @gilbertocaldeira5935
      @gilbertocaldeira5935 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Nic5Cyprus oh hi, TH-cam is messing up my comments these days so I took a little break

    • @eonbree8593
      @eonbree8593 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      pmd rrt is my first and favorite game of all time. im just so dang happy that we are getting one more game!

    • @marciamakesmusic
      @marciamakesmusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It's all marketing. They announced them at the same time to try and divert attention from the shitty stuff

    • @gilbertocaldeira5935
      @gilbertocaldeira5935 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@eonbree8593 bought a 3ds recently just to play super, now I'm divided to buy super or this one.... hopefully this means that more is coming

  • @Masahane
    @Masahane 4 ปีที่แล้ว +439

    DLC is better than buying another whole game, objectively.
    Releasing a complete game is better than DLC.

    • @YujiUedaFan
      @YujiUedaFan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Not for people like me that didn't buy SwSh in the first place.

    • @machina5
      @machina5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@YujiUedaFan Ok?

    • @sweetandsaltyminx7310
      @sweetandsaltyminx7310 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@machina5 Some people wait for a third version to release instead of buying the base game. So this is a worse deal than what they would have done previously.

    • @myanrueller91
      @myanrueller91 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      GameFreak has gone full EA.
      Comlete the game. Remove parts from it. Release an incomplete game, make the content, then release the content removed as DLC.

    • @Tenebrio-Morio
      @Tenebrio-Morio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      S/m + us/um = $80
      Sw/sh + expansion = $90

  • @Intelligencer44
    @Intelligencer44 4 ปีที่แล้ว +300

    It is one of those "why isn't this part of the base game?" cases

    • @Elcrisso1
      @Elcrisso1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Indeed. All of this, so soon after the original games released, is very sketchy. This would have been planned for a very long time, and thus they purposefully withheld content only to make individuals pay extra for restricted content a few months later. I don’t understand how Arlo can call this anything but disgraceful.

    • @hjv6133
      @hjv6133 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because if they tried to fit this into an already rushed game, it would've lowered the overall quality of the games. Contrary to popular belief, Gamefreak isn't just out to make as much money as possible at any cost.

    • @Elcrisso1
      @Elcrisso1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Not A Robot Don’t be so naïve. Of course they’re out to make as much money as possible. That’s not necessarily a bad thing, but it results in dodgy moved like this.
      If they’re not out to make money, then why the fuck would they be charging you £25 for this content two months into the release of their game?

    • @milboxr9772
      @milboxr9772 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@hjv6133 omg plz tell me you didn't just say that, releasing this as 30 dollar dlc means they are trying to make the most money possible instead of with the base 60 dollar sword and shield ya dunce

    • @RaiJolt2
      @RaiJolt2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah, it feels like game freak was told mid-way through to halt production, make it seem like it's "complete" and a standalone (2) game, and then add in the rest of the intended content in for paid DLC.

  • @jamesbiggs8397
    @jamesbiggs8397 4 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    As someone who adores Sword & Shield, this gives me similar conflicting feelings. It feels like "Solutuon Selling".

    • @TheRealSlimShady509
      @TheRealSlimShady509 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      James Biggs how tf does it feel like that. This is what we are getting instead of the remakes at the end of the year. I would much rather get this.

    • @ethanc.1443
      @ethanc.1443 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@TheRealSlimShady509 Some of the content they announced should've been in the base game to begin with, like the legendaries and all the returning Pokemon such as Volcarona and Garchomp

    • @couchgamingnews9379
      @couchgamingnews9379 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@TheRealSlimShady509 Nintendo fan girl the worst type of person blindly buying anything

    • @TheRealSlimShady509
      @TheRealSlimShady509 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Couch gaming news lol. No. I criticize the bad and enjoy the good. This game has had some shaky things but overall its a lot of fun. Its 30$

    • @Hydra_X9K_Music
      @Hydra_X9K_Music 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ethanc.1443 You dont even need to pay anything to get the pokemon, you will be able to transfer them over

  • @thebigskip-e
    @thebigskip-e 4 ปีที่แล้ว +891

    A word of caution to everyone impressed with the dlc: let's all remember how big we thought the base game was going to be before we were severely underwhelmed. I suggest holding off on pre purchasing

    • @Ronitrocket
      @Ronitrocket 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      well the point is that this is the rest of the base game

    • @Iivaitte
      @Iivaitte 4 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      At this point I feel like Im being held hostage. If they got low sales numbers then it would say something but Im afraid if I dont buy the dlc then it would be misunderstood as "I dont want old pokemon in my game" Which I absolutely do want them back.

    • @ilikeceral3
      @ilikeceral3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Worse: since it’s dlc you HAVE to buy it new.

    • @LilyTengoku
      @LilyTengoku 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      From what I've seen just the returning 200 Pokemon is enough from me. If they literally added 200 Pokemon and gave them spawn locations in Galar for 30 bucks I'd buy it

    • @whachamacallit5864
      @whachamacallit5864 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@Iivaitte They said that all regular players will get the "extra" Pokemon too, they just have to transfer them from older games.

  • @hunt7533
    @hunt7533 4 ปีที่แล้ว +282

    Gamefreak: We can't add all the Pokemon, it takes a lot of space!
    Also Gamefreak: Introducing the 30$ Expansion Pass, now there's more than 200 brand new Pokemon to use!

    • @DemonicMonkey88
      @DemonicMonkey88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      The pokemon aren't behind the paywall.

    • @ZERARCHIVE2023
      @ZERARCHIVE2023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They're just lying again... nothing really...

    • @hunt7533
      @hunt7533 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@DemonicMonkey88 You do know that there's Pokemon behind a paywall right? That's literally an obvious tactic, it will make people happy that the pokemon are back which they'll buy the DLC becuase of that.

    • @DemonicMonkey88
      @DemonicMonkey88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@hunt7533 The CONTENT is what's behind the paywall.
      You can get the Pokemon via trading or transferring. This shit's nothing new and has been around since Ruby and Sapphire.

    • @hunt7533
      @hunt7533 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@DemonicMonkey88 Yea you can trade from the people who bought it lmao

  • @SimplyMarque
    @SimplyMarque 4 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    To be fair, Gamefreak barely even patches their games, so DLC wasn't even comprehendable.

    • @oldoutlet6946
      @oldoutlet6946 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      To be frank, dlc in games have been a thing in gaming for over a decade. The fact that it took Game "is half-baked" Freak this long to make it a thing in Pokemon is laughable to say the least.

    • @jjrambles683
      @jjrambles683 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@oldoutlet6946 for real, and let's not forget that it took till gen 8 to get a controllable camera

    • @LenKirin
      @LenKirin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jjrambles683 well but that's because the only 3D Pokemon game worthy of a controllable camera before SwSh was USUM, and even then, the regular 3DS didn't have an extra stick for the camera until NNDS (which, mind you, gen 7 was made to work on O3DS so the camera HAD to be fixed). Althought control schemes are a thing with the circle and d-pad, 3D movement worked best with the circle pad, which the d-pad didn't really shine, and it would be awkward camera control. Conversely, movement with a d-pad feels much more limited and not seamless at all compared to the circle pad. Gen 6 and LGPE were honestly just 2D games in 3D environments, if you really think about it, so they didn't have much of a need for one. They didn't have the ability for a free camera control on O3DS, and they didn't have a need for one anyways.

    • @Peasham
      @Peasham 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No no no, to be fair, Gamefreak explicitly said it won't patch in Pokemon.

    • @shytendeakatamanoir9740
      @shytendeakatamanoir9740 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except they do?
      They always did, as far as in 3G.
      And those DLC are,in fact, accompanied by patches allowing every old Pokemon to be obtained "freely" old Pokemon (and new forms as well)
      There's already enough complaints we can address to them without having to fabricate new ones.

  • @WolfLykaios
    @WolfLykaios 4 ปีที่แล้ว +272

    My reaction was "they planned this from the start"

    • @TheOfficalAndI
      @TheOfficalAndI 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      most definitely

    • @Tienko
      @Tienko 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yeah they holded back content and more Pokemon from the beginning 😒

    • @IronBlaze77
      @IronBlaze77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I’ll telling you, it was planned!

    • @GruelingFive8
      @GruelingFive8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The pokemon aren't paywall locked though?? Everything is good. Managing 900+ pokemon isn't happening and it isn't good for the meta or power creep. Adding some selectively over time in updates is great imo

    • @mondelsson
      @mondelsson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is baseless though. If you're going to be angry at gamefreak at least be angry about stuff we know is true.

  • @eziashit1501
    @eziashit1501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +386

    The expansion pass is basically what should’ve been in the game already if they had MORE TIME

    • @HeavyMetalBeliever
      @HeavyMetalBeliever 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Why didn't they just make Sword and Shield with all the features that was in the expansion pass?

    • @eziashit1501
      @eziashit1501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      That’s because of how they come out with a new Pokémon game every year. If they took their time with games like they do with Zelda, we wouldn’t have these kind of problems. We already know that botw 2 is gonna be amazing but Pokémon nowadays is a hit or miss

    • @HeavyMetalBeliever
      @HeavyMetalBeliever 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@eziashit1501 Game Freak has a different schedule (when it comes to releasing mainline Pokémon games) than Nintendo does releasing stuff like Mario or LOZ. I think 2 - 3 years would be enough time for a Pokémon game to get made and still be good.

    • @eziashit1501
      @eziashit1501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yea game freak needs to change the due dates

    • @OwinBlazer
      @OwinBlazer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@eziashit1501 agreed. Although the process is complicated due to the many different sectors of merchandising which needs to be readjusted (anime, manga, tcg, plushie, etc), buying time with spinoffs would be wonderful.
      Who knows? Maybe another pokemon ranger or conquest or... Something new??? That'd be dope

  • @QuickNETTech
    @QuickNETTech 4 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    Adding the old ones back is only "brilliant" in a terribly anti-consumer way.

    • @maythesciencebewithyou
      @maythesciencebewithyou 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      The dumb fans are swallowing this bullshit PR stunt. If it weren't for the "toxic and entitled" fans, we wouldn't be getting them. I really hope alot that all those who have defended Dexit will stick to what they said in the past and never use any of the readded 200 pokemon.

    • @estabanbattleslayer1875
      @estabanbattleslayer1875 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      QuickNET Everyone in this comment section seems to not understand that you don’t need the dlc to get the Pokémon

    • @QuickNETTech
      @QuickNETTech 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@estabanbattleslayer1875 Pretty sure most people understand that and still think it's massive fucking bullshit, because it is.

  • @DarkLink1996.
    @DarkLink1996. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +218

    They're selling us a solution to a problem they made themselves...
    EDIT: I was talking about the lacking post-game, not the readded Pokémon.

    • @LG-ii7gl
      @LG-ii7gl 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So why are you complaining then?

    • @julianx2rl
      @julianx2rl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      @@LG-ii7gl - Because money you fool.

    • @Silburific
      @Silburific 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      @@LG-ii7gl "I'm selling you back the phone I stole from you. Why are you complaining?"

    • @pklifeupa7064
      @pklifeupa7064 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@LG-ii7gl spotted the fanboy...

    • @carlosesquivel3931
      @carlosesquivel3931 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I mean, pokemon IS a religion so...

  • @stinkobean
    @stinkobean 4 ปีที่แล้ว +374

    Mario voice: "Thank you so much for *PAYING* my game."

    • @Doomshroom8
      @Doomshroom8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      For-*TO* paying my game. Can't forget the goofy italian euphemism.

    • @ppppppppp-fz4nh
      @ppppppppp-fz4nh 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ?

    • @HoshPak
      @HoshPak 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ego Raptor's Voice: "Thank'e you so much fo' play'ang ma' fukkin' game, you piece o' shiet!"

    • @bananastretched
      @bananastretched 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Seriously?

    • @beatlejuice1165
      @beatlejuice1165 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Again- Pokemon is not made by Nintendo

  • @iandig
    @iandig 4 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    Arlo, you should definitely play Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky. It's fantastic.

    • @rainpooper7088
      @rainpooper7088 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yes, let’s strangle him until he does!

    • @hostiusasinhostilityhostil7853
      @hostiusasinhostilityhostil7853 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@rainpooper7088 That's an... unorthodox approach.

    • @zwartesoep2010
      @zwartesoep2010 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hostiusasinhostilityhostil7853 But one we could agree would work?

    • @hostiusasinhostilityhostil7853
      @hostiusasinhostilityhostil7853 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zwartesoep2010 Okay, granted.

    • @bluespark01
      @bluespark01 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Speaking of mystery dungeon, explorers of sky was one of my favorite pokemon games.
      And I don't know if this will make anyone feel better about the whole SwSh thing, but look up Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Rescue Team DX.

  • @freshtheend4903
    @freshtheend4903 4 ปีที่แล้ว +421

    FACT: most of this content should've been in the base game.

    • @Swapscribble
      @Swapscribble 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Game Freak’s logic seems to be “it doesn’t matter how many times the amount of a console game’s value we charge for this content, parents will still buy it for their kids”

    • @johnnygodxxx9005
      @johnnygodxxx9005 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      how is that a fact the base game already has the largest map in any of the main Pokemon games tf are you talking about

    • @Rainstorm_100
      @Rainstorm_100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@johnnygodxxx9005 size isn't a factor of content or quality. It is large and mostly empty

    • @johnnygodxxx9005
      @johnnygodxxx9005 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @ i stop listening when you statred to complain about graphics in a Pokemon game. if thats high on your list the rest must be small nick picks all Pokemon games have. and i have never seen a glitch while i played get your switch looked at

    • @jacobrodriguez-bertoni2716
      @jacobrodriguez-bertoni2716 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      If you charge them AAA prices you raise your quality to triple A content. Don’t give Pokémon an excuse like the past. These are consoles not hand heads only now. No excuse People can be upset with the lack of quality or content in a product they pay for. BOTW shows you time and effort goes a long way.

  • @1polyron1
    @1polyron1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    "Good content is good."
    - Arlo, 2020

    • @Terrabyte13
      @Terrabyte13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He's not wrong

    • @jigglypuff452
      @jigglypuff452 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Content is great because content is good.

    • @hurt4322
      @hurt4322 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hmm and the floor is made of floor

    • @The_Dev_175
      @The_Dev_175 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Nintendo Switch has games!

    • @blunderbus2695
      @blunderbus2695 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      A Mystery Dungeon is a very mysterious place

  • @Z-Man7
    @Z-Man7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    The price of the expansion pass is only $10 short of a full price 3DS game.
    But then you have $60 base game on top of that.

    • @TriplePixel
      @TriplePixel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And another 90 for those fans who want to play both experiences

  • @WarpChaos
    @WarpChaos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +451

    I called this when people were defending the games so hard. I knew they were just hoing to sell cut content back you. People just laughed, and continued defending the games.

    • @lukes.854
      @lukes.854 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      How do you know it's cut content

    • @_-Lx-_
      @_-Lx-_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +117

      @@lukes.854
      because most of it was in the previous entries and they already had most of the assets.
      They cut the pokemon out of the base game to sell them back to us at a premium.

    • @mcfry13
      @mcfry13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +120

      @@lukes.854 because he has eyes and a brain lol

    • @crazyfire9470
      @crazyfire9470 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So? lOl

    • @silversaiyan3783
      @silversaiyan3783 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@_-Lx-_ but they're not selling them back. If you don't buy the dlc you can still get the pokemon.

  • @Nightmare-xh5ri
    @Nightmare-xh5ri 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    The evidence that sword and shield was rush when they released a DLC for 30 dollars it's stupid why not for free the irony of people

    • @maythesciencebewithyou
      @maythesciencebewithyou 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The irony is that all the apologist are now saying that they've been planning to do this and that they've been working on the DLCs for much longer now. Those are the same idiotic people who kept saying that the developers had only 1 year to finish the game. If it weren't for the "toxic and entitled" fans, they wouldn't promise so much content for the dlcs.

    • @BluntmanEXE
      @BluntmanEXE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@maythesciencebewithyou And since you decided to be a douche about it, I'm buying it anyway just to spite you.

    • @ZERARCHIVE2023
      @ZERARCHIVE2023 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      May the Science be with You i dont belive it any seconds dude

    • @donovanjoseph737
      @donovanjoseph737 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This reply section is a dumpster fire

    • @BluntmanEXE
      @BluntmanEXE 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Goblin Slayer Maybe some of us don't see it as a waste and don't like being insulted by people who do.

  • @XellosNi
    @XellosNi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +359

    This actually worries me for the future.
    "Heavily Conflicted" is understandable, though.
    Also, agreeing with you should never feel this depressing.

    • @randombluetoad1308
      @randombluetoad1308 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Big Brother Xellos Which part worries you? I personally feel like this is a step in the right direction.

    • @1903JPG
      @1903JPG 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@randombluetoad1308 I think most agree with you but what Arlo and others don't agree with is that the base came was bare bones and empty and Nintendo held it back so that they could release all this.
      Thats scummy. Hold back the base game and sell more dlc. No thank you.

    • @randombluetoad1308
      @randombluetoad1308 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Tobi Olusola I know this is an unpopular opinion, but to me, SwSh felt just as barebones as past entries. I still greatly enjoyed it though.

    • @cise3895
      @cise3895 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Random Blue Toad It isn’t unpopular from the people I’ve personally heard from. They say they are disappointed _because_ it’s just as barebones...for 1.5 times the price on a much more powerful system.

    • @MarioBeart
      @MarioBeart 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      it will be an excuse for them to release an unfinished game that lacks a lot of features and then make you pay extre 30 bucks for the entire game. So you get a normal Pokémon game at 90 dollars. Thank you Game Freak.

  • @MkOs_
    @MkOs_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +213

    I mean, swsh wasn't worth 60$ in the first place, so imo the 20$ price increase should have already paid for this expansion

    • @Liggliluff
      @Liggliluff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      The DLC could basically be free. New players still have to pay for the base game. The DLC would work as marketing to sell more base game copies.

    • @MrArgy333
      @MrArgy333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This

    • @q8coin396
      @q8coin396 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      still better than getting a new game that is basically the same game

    • @SomeSayApple
      @SomeSayApple 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This. Yes.

    • @tobysinbad
      @tobysinbad 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      q8coin This is a situation where I would’ve preferred an overhaul to the original story and base game- graphics, animations, balancing stuff like they did when Emerald or Platinum came out- I want to play what the base game should have been initially, rather than a copypasta’d game with a new epilogue like Ultra Sun/Moon. I want the initial gym challenge to be interesting, and it doesn’t look like they intend on improving it at all.

  • @VergilPrime
    @VergilPrime 4 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    They are selling the Pokemon they stripped out back? Seriously?

    • @461weavile
      @461weavile 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      GF: you can transfer your old pokemon to your new game with your subscription to pokemon home!
      Fair-weather Fans: why do i have to pay?

    • @TriplePixel
      @TriplePixel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@461weavile ohhhh a subscription service too!

    • @461weavile
      @461weavile 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Or you can, you know, make a friend and trade. Only costs you the game you already bought.

    • @travisminger9529
      @travisminger9529 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      There adding the Pokémon to the base game for free even if you don’t buy the DLC.

    • @brianbread7698
      @brianbread7698 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@461weavile oh and switch online.

  • @ThatAnArchyDude
    @ThatAnArchyDude 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    @Arlo
    This is NOT better.
    1. The Pikachu and Eevee shirts you get for purchasing the expansion pass can only be claimed on one game save, and only one time because it's claimed via a unique Mystery Gift serial code they email to you upon purchase.
    2. When I get a new Switch, because I am going to get a new Switch, I won't be able to take this DLC over to the new system without having to buy the expansion pass all over again.
    3. The poorer people who can't afford the games new are going to buy them used. You can't buy DLC used. So they'll never get to play it.
    4. This proves they lied to us because they did, in fact, say they had no plans to patch in the missing Pokémon at all in the future, but DLC is (essentially) a patch.
    5. The last time I bought an expansion on Switch, the expansion was ONLY available on the Switch profile which purchased it.
    I have 8 profiles.
    Why pay $240 to play DLC on EIGHT profiles when we already just paid $60 to play ONE (allegedly complete) GAME on EIGHT profiles.
    6. This is EA levels of scumminiess by withholding game content which has obviously been done since before the base games launched (I.e. All the missing Pokémon which would normally be available in any previous installment in the series for free, and were actually found within the coding of the base games, missing only visuals), and instead opting to sell us said missing content as a paid DLC.
    I AM excited for the content within the Expansions, but I am NOT happy about the means in which they have chosen to deliver said content.
    This content was obviously done.before Sword/Shield launched, and should've been included in those otherwise lackluster games from the start for $59.99.
    The only way I'm getting this is if some ignorant person buys it for me or one of my livestream viewers donates $30 specifically so they can watch me play it...kinda like the way I was gifted my wife's copy of Sword by so I could play it without having to pay for it.
    I'm not paying for a slap in the face when I could get slapped in the face at work for free.

    • @estabanbattleslayer1875
      @estabanbattleslayer1875 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Anarchy Dude There was no gameplay footage for Crown Tundra. Just putting that out there.

    • @ThatAnArchyDude
      @ThatAnArchyDude 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@estabanbattleslayer1875 So you didn't see the trainer walking around the snow covered area in the trailer?
      I did.

    • @trunks9233
      @trunks9233 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Anarchy Dude nobody told you to make 8 fucking profiles. You're doing too much

    • @Light-li1dv
      @Light-li1dv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Um, DLC works for all profiles? All my games with dlc work on all profiles. Also, transferring to a new console is super easy. You don’t need to buy everything again

    • @madmaxim3965
      @madmaxim3965 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Livestream viewers be like... I ain't paying for that shit....all 2 of them said to each other 😂😂

  • @PapaSage
    @PapaSage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +390

    Imagine if they didn't rush the game out at all

    • @chaddts
      @chaddts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      The wouldn't be getting 90-180 dollars for every buyer...and of missed Christmas rush.. I see the monetary reason, but my fan side hates the greed

    • @amp7980
      @amp7980 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Woulda been really awkward when the anime came out and spoiled all the new pokemon reveals.

    • @bert7651
      @bert7651 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@amp7980 Screw the anime. Still a shitty justification.

    • @PapaSage
      @PapaSage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@amp7980 I don't know why the anime is this unstoppable Force that has to happen at a specific time

    • @chaddts
      @chaddts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'm glad I haven't bought this game..ill wait until the "complete" remake. edition comes out

  • @Isaac_Essa
    @Isaac_Essa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +298

    I’ve been a Pokémon fan all my life, and I honestly am kind of indifferent towards the DLC, not bad, not fantastic in my opinion.
    BUT MYSTERY DUNGEON THOUGH

    • @juanhuerta2890
      @juanhuerta2890 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      THE DEMO GOT ME SO PUMPED

    • @Ediness
      @Ediness 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Isaac Essa I personally would've prefrered A Mystery Duengon 2 Remake more. BUT THIS DEMO IS GOOD

    • @luxioboy66
      @luxioboy66 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Blue Rescue Team is the reason I still play Pokemon.

    • @tingcraft3920
      @tingcraft3920 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I just bought blue rescue last month
      ;_;

    • @ctpp64
      @ctpp64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ikr? people are all talking about the dlc but the remake is whats really got my attention

  • @chocobox1571
    @chocobox1571 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I never knew Pokemon could make me feel so conflicted...

    • @RWAsur
      @RWAsur 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's how I felt all last year. Now I'm empty inside. I feel nothing about this whole DLC thing. You'll get there eventually.
      I'm not buying another *thing* Pokemon related until they change their practices. And I own every game and shelves of plushes and wearable merch. The lying about the nature of the dex cut was my final straw.

  • @OMalleyTheMaggot
    @OMalleyTheMaggot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    Funny how quickly they went back on the mentality that the dex cut was for the sake of competative balance and for the benefit of players.
    Hmm, almost like that was a load of lies to begin with.

    • @maythesciencebewithyou
      @maythesciencebewithyou 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I so hope that the dexit defenders won't ever use any of the readded 200 pokemon in sword and shield. Thank you for all the "toxic and entitled" fans out there who made this possible.

    • @YujiUedaFan
      @YujiUedaFan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Worst of all, Landorus is back.

    • @ZERARCHIVE2023
      @ZERARCHIVE2023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ueda Yuuji Fan landorus...?
      No...
      Not again !
      Noooooo !!!

    • @OMalleyTheMaggot
      @OMalleyTheMaggot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@YujiUedaFan best of all*
      Well, best of all for singles players.
      Anyone who plays VGC or random cartridge matches oh boy will you have SO MUCH FUN with Dynamax Landorus-t!
      I played Natdex before dynamax was banned there, I've seen some shit.

    • @starmanexe7721
      @starmanexe7721 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      GF has been lying to its fans for a while now, yet no one takes that seriously.

  • @RockMcLuckle
    @RockMcLuckle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +310

    It so nice that they anounced a Mystery Dungeon remake, not sure why they had 18 minutes of filler after it

    • @firenze6478
      @firenze6478 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I do hope they finally let you evolve before the story ends, I know they can’t do that for explorers for plot reasons but I’m so tired of being a basic form Pokémon for the entire game.

    • @gemmerchant6029
      @gemmerchant6029 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@firenze6478 the game is explicitly designed around it. changing it would be stupid.

    • @firenze6478
      @firenze6478 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gem Merchant how?

    • @GreyWandererXD
      @GreyWandererXD 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am actually excited for it, maybe them going back to their roots on the franchise of Mystery Dungeons could make more possibilities moving forward. Plus, I really want to play the game and I lost my GBA while moving.

    • @firenze6478
      @firenze6478 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      GreyWanderer XD unless it’s like the mario and Luigi remakes which were bland as crap.
      I myself am more cautiously optimistic

  • @freya1548
    @freya1548 4 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    Before this game even came out me and friends where talking about this exact thing. I am 100% not surprised.

  • @mayoral_fabrication
    @mayoral_fabrication 4 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    They remove/did not include these 200 pokemons in the base game
    They made a problem and are selling us the solution

    • @kionashi
      @kionashi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      you can still get those 200 pokemons without buying the dlc, just by regular trading

    • @marshadowmaker2403
      @marshadowmaker2403 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kionashi I thought they said that after you buy the pass

    • @rexon31
      @rexon31 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@marshadowmaker2403 no in a update for the pass

    • @Miss-Alexis
      @Miss-Alexis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@kionashi You can TRADE for those Pokemon, yes, but... as far as I know, SwSh has no GTS, so you'd have to trade with somebody locally. But by doing this at all, they're proving that everything they said about Dexit was a lie. They could easily add the entire dex, they just didn't because... money.

    • @LilyTengoku
      @LilyTengoku 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Miss-Alexis You can use Link Trades actually

  • @Christian-iu3lo
    @Christian-iu3lo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +208

    If they really cared about their own integrity and their fans they would release the expansions for free and issue a formal apology for not being truthful

    • @JohnObregon
      @JohnObregon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      This.

    • @YujiUedaFan
      @YujiUedaFan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Or even have the DLC be $15 each so $30 total for both gams.

    • @ZERARCHIVE2023
      @ZERARCHIVE2023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ueda Yuuji Fan or making a new shitty game ?

    • @ZERARCHIVE2023
      @ZERARCHIVE2023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      They're gonna do a diamond and perle remake.
      And u know what ?
      The national dex and everything in the fucking post game will be DLCs

    • @Drachendrac
      @Drachendrac 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@YujiUedaFan or they make one DLC without the stupid 2 edition system like everyone. Imagine don't have all the content if you buy a DLC ones.

  • @alexp6667
    @alexp6667 4 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    This move seems very... EA... i dont even know if i can call it that because atleast EA is actually fixing their games for free. Im grateful there is no 3rd version... but still, having to essentially buy the post game for 30$ (making the game as a whole 90$) is incredibly scummy. It shouldve been free.

    • @zeldarainbow3423
      @zeldarainbow3423 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and here in Canada, the base game already is $90 >.

    • @hollowboi3197
      @hollowboi3197 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      jesus barrera my man Pokemon is made fun more than fefa

    • @alexp6667
      @alexp6667 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @jesus barrera Sadly, thats true. The sales, Gamefreak apologists, and appeal keep it immune.
      Fortunately, nothing is immune. Just like Star Wars, Pokemon will have a point where it WILL fall drastically. Prob in a few years, but it will happen.

    • @steeplewiththesnakes
      @steeplewiththesnakes 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's nothing as aggressive in their monetization strategy as loot boxes. Not to mention gamefreak has always had pretty terrible monetization, though, with selling two games and a third version.

  • @CalamitousProphet
    @CalamitousProphet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    I am a person who really really didn't enjoy the base game. I saw it as a tiny, tiny world, with less content overall than I feel I got out of even the original Red and Blue back in the day, as there was nothing so elaborate as Sylph co, the game corner, underground rocket base, sprout tower, the electric plant, etc.
    However, I guess I see the dlc thing as a good move for the series overall. The grim reality is the extra versions have always been a thing, and will continue to be a thing, right or wrong. I'm glad that it's cheaper for those that enjoy it, and people don't have to buy a whole new game to start from scratch. (Especially for this gen, as the base content was really not that enjoyable for me.)
    ...That said? I won't be buying or playing it in either circumstance, I think. The game had its shot to be good in the first outing, and it failed for me. Even if the DLC is great, it won't remove the mark of the base game, and it's a bit too late, as I already can reach lvl 99 from egg phase for a full team with no real effort. I don't see much joy in continuing my adventure in that world.

    • @emblemblade9245
      @emblemblade9245 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Caidryn You really think there’s not gonna be an extra version?

    • @CalamitousProphet
      @CalamitousProphet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@emblemblade9245 I hope not. But you're right in that it is certainly possible. If they *do* do that, I expect that would be some harmful PR. Unless the "extra" one is just the base game plus DLC at a discounted price for newcomers.

    • @DoctorPhileasFragg
      @DoctorPhileasFragg 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CalamitousProphet Pokemon Sword/Shield Game of the Year Edition

    • @fredward_3713
      @fredward_3713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@emblemblade9245 Well, they said the DLC is the extra game replacement, I rather buy a DLC for 30$ than the same content as the DLC for 60$

    • @katy2176-p3m
      @katy2176-p3m 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      fredward _ if you wait for the 3rd game with extra content, you pay less. Now that option is gone and everyone actually pays more to get all the content.(which is also online so you don’t fully own it)

  • @mechamill
    @mechamill 4 ปีที่แล้ว +310

    Charging $30 for DLC, when this game is $60 is outrageous but I’ll hold off and see everything it has to offer. When you think about how the 3DS games were $40 it kinda sours it.

    • @SchmergDergen
      @SchmergDergen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      And Alola had more explore able areas on the 3DS.

    • @grievousart
      @grievousart 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The dlc is about half as big as the main game so it checks out

    • @sambenson7797
      @sambenson7797 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      30 each, so it’s just as much as the full game

    • @Kill_Command
      @Kill_Command 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@grievousart How can you gauge that?

    • @_-Lx-_
      @_-Lx-_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@SchmergDergen
      Pokemon had more content in general for all games on the NDS than SwSh has.

  • @metalmagerin3
    @metalmagerin3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    How I feel about this in one sentence: "This better not become normal."
    Don't forget the newest Pokemon Rumble for mobile/switch happened, the cash grab it was.

    • @FalconOfStorms
      @FalconOfStorms 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Please, please, please let it be the new normal. I've bought third versions after getting the original since Pokemon was invented, and those games had far less new content than this DLC is going to have. If we revert to full game third versions without a lot of new content, I will be really devastated.

    • @metalmagerin3
      @metalmagerin3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@FalconOfStorms Y'know, after seeing how much people favor this kinda paid DLC stuff, my view on it is getting softer. I still wish these game companies in general could just get it right the first time and stop needing to No Man's Sky themselves after the fact. Feels like Anthem in here.
      Maybe I'm just an Emerald-loving boomer or something.

    • @fortnitebanana9634
      @fortnitebanana9634 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Seraph O. Storms Welll, maybe if the base game was worth it I could except it. But the fact of the matter is just that it’s not.

    • @FalconOfStorms
      @FalconOfStorms 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fortnitebanana9634 is that a factual fact? Because there's a lot of great stuff about this game.

    • @FalconOfStorms
      @FalconOfStorms 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@metalmagerin3 there are some real flaws with SwSh and as far as I can tell the the expansions don't address those. They aren't about fixing either the made up problems with the game or the real problems with the game. It's literally just a bunch of awesome content.

  • @milboxr9772
    @milboxr9772 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Isn't it amazing to think if they just delayed the game by like a year this would all be in the base game, but nope money

  • @chaliceohearts4658
    @chaliceohearts4658 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Right now I’m treating this as the “third” version. Except this time you don’t start all over again to rush to the endgame.

    • @cortster12
      @cortster12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep. So better in every way, basically.

    • @suddenlycrows
      @suddenlycrows 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And doesn't cost as much as the full game.

    • @ill_luck
      @ill_luck 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s exactly how they explained it in the direct too. That’s how we should be viewing the dlc

    • @jman72898
      @jman72898 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bella Swan yeah but just wait a year down the line they’ll release the new versions that come with the dlc as bas content plus some more junk and then will probably drop another dlc later after that.

    • @mikewehr7887
      @mikewehr7887 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You know what they say about making assumptions

  • @RWAsur
    @RWAsur 4 ปีที่แล้ว +702

    Pokemon & GameFreak: I'm gonna do what's called an EA move.

    • @juliantorres3495
      @juliantorres3495 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      They are not even comparable

    • @TehLucario
      @TehLucario 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Not even close. Nice try.

    • @xghostgaming9279
      @xghostgaming9279 4 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      It literally is an EA move though. Cutting content out of the base game to sell as DLC. *cough* the sims 4 *cough* ???

    • @cag_0k642
      @cag_0k642 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      xGhostGaming
      Sure it’s a bit questionable but I don’t think it’s anything like what EA does

    • @chrishoran7042
      @chrishoran7042 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yea nah im not paying $60 for a game that is dangerously similar to the original

  • @Vilehand
    @Vilehand 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    The pokemon company found a way to now charge 2 and a half times more than when they were on nintendo handhelds.
    Shhh. No one realizes this is the new standard.

    • @electrokineticphenomenon8800
      @electrokineticphenomenon8800 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, I love how everyone thinks that dlc means no plans for swsh2 lmao. I wouldn't even put it past GM for having dlc for swsh2 if they release it

  • @robertharris6092
    @robertharris6092 4 ปีที่แล้ว +202

    Wow. They cut content from the game to sell it for an additional fee later. Where have we seen this before... *stares at EA*

    • @teawizard374
      @teawizard374 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      *Stares at entire Sims series*

    • @fortnitebanana9634
      @fortnitebanana9634 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      WoolEagle11 I think that’s just EA knowing that if they mess up a Star Wars game again Disney will be MAD. Also, I believe Battlefront’s comeback was anything but EA’s doing. The game only started improving when EA took their hands away from it.

    • @evildrhobbes5974
      @evildrhobbes5974 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Gaming Gamer And Jedi Fallen Order was mostly made by another company (don’t recall their name though)

    • @wintertheampharos4725
      @wintertheampharos4725 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      *GLARES AT ACTIVISION*

    • @7PlayingWithFire7
      @7PlayingWithFire7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Proof?

  • @pmdfan8860
    @pmdfan8860 4 ปีที่แล้ว +384

    This is why we should all just play mystery dungeon

    • @anayos6726
      @anayos6726 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      This is why I honestly enjoy the spin-offs more than the mainline games. So much more potential ideas than the regular "gotta catch em' all," pokemon battles, and pokemon leagues.

    • @InnerRise
      @InnerRise 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      We should all be 5 years old first.

    • @metalmagerin3
      @metalmagerin3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Super Mystery Dungeon wasn't all that good IMO. Stick to the first few ones. Explorers of Sky was the last 'great' one, that... Infinity one was decent.

    • @TheSilverwing999
      @TheSilverwing999 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@metalmagerin3
      Dude when people say mystery dungeon they are usually taking about the first 2 ones, which were phenomenal

    • @JotaroKujo-gw6ng
      @JotaroKujo-gw6ng 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      nospacito ! OR release a new Ranger game like they should have by now.

  • @katsusashima6365
    @katsusashima6365 4 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    Hollly dang he put out this video QUICK? I JUST got done watching your commentary😂
    (Wow so many likes thank you wasn't expecting that.)

  • @MsSoulBlader
    @MsSoulBlader 4 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Thank goodness you understand, Arlo. Twitter is just filled with apologists actively depending the DLC to the point that they're calling everyone that disagrees with them haters.

    • @worldofcyn
      @worldofcyn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      yes and i hate that

    • @haaxxx9
      @haaxxx9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Twitter is fucked dude. Can't wait till it get's shut down for good (And most popular social media sites including youtube)!

    • @mothermushroom_
      @mothermushroom_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh hey that's relevant again lol

    • @generalyahya_
      @generalyahya_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Twitter is dumb. People on twitter are dumb. Its just the fact there is a lotta people constantly replying to the official pokemon company saying "BBND" or "if you defend this you arent a true fan" Its thse fact they are disrespectful and annoying. BBND would be better w/o those annoying people.

  • @eugenioleanza9190
    @eugenioleanza9190 4 ปีที่แล้ว +452

    Recap of the video: Arlo is angry about the fact that Nintendo wants 30 bucks for an unfinished game but he can't swear 'cause he's family friendly.

    • @malikyassin8895
      @malikyassin8895 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      5/5 summary

    • @Lodsiek
      @Lodsiek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      I think you mean 90 bucks

    • @kyotheman69
      @kyotheman69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      exactly, he wants to say it.
      THIS IS BULLSHIT

    • @Ousseaghymn
      @Ousseaghymn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      90 for a game. 30 for 1 dlc...

    • @sarielheavensborne9921
      @sarielheavensborne9921 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@HughMongusJazzhole It's not babyish to say that a Pokemon game like this isn't worth $90 when it's unfinished to this day

  • @Ginronmaster1994
    @Ginronmaster1994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    I love how desensitized everyone is to these kinds of anti-consumer practices, saying, things like "at least its better than having to buy another 60 game" Its not hard to make this crap look better when you are comparing it to their old way of doing things which was already anti-consumer to begin with.
    Here is the reality: you could pay 40 in the past for the first version of the game knowing that gamefreak was withholding content to release another version later that was the "complete" version, so at most you would be paying 80 dollars (or 120 for all the games), or you had the option to wait and only buy the complete version for 40. With the new way they are doing things they are still releasing an incomplete game (now for 60 dollars), but instead of having the option to wait and buy one game with all of the content for 40 dollars (in this case 60) like you could in the past, you are forced to spend a minimum of 90 if you want the "complete" version, if you want the complete version of both games you are looking at 180 dollars*. This is way more expensive than before, and in my opinion the new pokemon games are an even worse value proposition than past generations which makes the 90 price tag look like a sad joke.
    Am i missing something? How is this any better if not worse than their previous way of doing things?
    Not to mention that you don't have the full game on the cartridge anymore which is a detriment to any hope of the game being able to be enjoyed in its completed form when switch online doesn't exist in the future (not that this game is good enough to be that concerned with how archivable it is).
    *EDIT: Just wanted to address what some have said, being that the $30 price tag covers both dlc: On the store page there are two passes listed for each version at $30, and in the comments from the devs during the direct they say, "There are two versions of the expansion pass, one for Pokemon Sword, and one for Pokemon Shield", so i think it is clear that you must buy one for each version of the game. Even if one pass did cover both games it would change nothing about what i said in the original post other than the price for both complete versions of sword and shield totaling at $150 rather than $180 which is still more than previous generations.
    Source: th-cam.com/video/C66Zrb4XdSg/w-d-xo.html @8:43 in the video

    • @thereverseeffect7269
      @thereverseeffect7269 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh don't get me wrong, I think paid DLC is cancer, but so many people are making really shit points, yet again

    • @Bezaliel13
      @Bezaliel13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Another comment said the dlc worked for *both* games, so I have to question your statement about costing "180 dollars." Also, don't video games re-release games with the dlc included?
      It just seems like you did not do much research for this propaganda.

    • @timekreepers
      @timekreepers 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ginron in my personal opinion however I don’t think thus is anti consumer at all. I agree they withheld content ( Pokémon cut from the game, new forms of older Pokémon,the giga evolutions of the starters). Most people would have to pay $120 for the Pokémon games (one for the first version, the second one for the updated version) think about sun and moon. Those games were fun but they left out a lot of content for the next versions, they didn’t update the story ( not too much, it was still kinda the same), and they added things that should be in the first game. That can get people annoyed and get tired of Pokémon games in general for playing the same games over and over. Now we are getting DLC ( which the price I personally hate) but it’ll be adding new quests,Pokémon, areas, and more to make it feel more worthwhile to play and keep the lifespan of one game (or 2 in this case) going for longer than it usually would. Besides hardcore players I say people are done with the new Pokémon game after a few months then that’s it. Plus the DLC works for both versions of the games not just one so if someone got both versions of the game and bought the DLC at these prices then that’s $180 at most, but if they just made two new updated version and sold it as a game then that be $240. So from my opinion, in every way this is a lot better than just waiting for the better version. Only problems are the price, the withholding of giga evolved starters, and adding the Pokémon they took out.

    • @Bezaliel13
      @Bezaliel13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@timekreepers
      Indeed.
      Better Isle/Tundra Expansion than Ultra Sword/Shield.

    • @SRNelson
      @SRNelson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Ginron, ignore those on your comment calling your opinions and healthy skepticism "propaganda." I think this is the strongest arguement I've seen in this comment section

  • @luiscanamarvega
    @luiscanamarvega 4 ปีที่แล้ว +269

    Solution: be patient and wait for the “definitive edition” that will have all DLC and updates.
    I’ll wait.
    EDIT: I forgot its VERY unlikely that this will happen because Nintendo rarely does this so... I’ll probably never buy this? 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @ballisticbananadadude
      @ballisticbananadadude 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Pokémon Ultra Sword & Pokémon Ultra Shield

    • @an3582
      @an3582 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly

    • @PlatinumAltaria
      @PlatinumAltaria 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Sale price: $120.

    • @leonardofarias8843
      @leonardofarias8843 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ballisticbananadadude Its not going to be called Ultra Sword and Shield because there's no UBs anywhere

    • @Silburific
      @Silburific 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Likewise. DLC is something you buy as an _extra_ for the base game, not something that looks like it was meant to be included in the base game, but was carved out to be sold back to you at a higher price.
      I'll buy a pokemon game when they decide to release a _whole_ game.

  • @Obi-Wan_Kenobi
    @Obi-Wan_Kenobi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Looking at that thumbnail, you can just feel the conflict in Arlo's tortured expression.

  • @Bendilin
    @Bendilin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    I just see a $90 price tag for a game that still has less content than the previous installment, which was $40.

    • @OurBoyPalutena
      @OurBoyPalutena 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Pokémon Gold for the Gameboy : Mortal

    • @WaterKirby1994
      @WaterKirby1994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Pokemon Gold, Silver, & Crystal for 3DS, you could get all 3 combined for 1/3rd the price & 1/2 the content of Pokemon Armor version. Get on the real level Dede & just wait for the day Gen 1&2 Pokemon games get added to Switch Online Service. When that happens you'll be paying only for the Online service that you'll need to do half the stuff in Sword & Shield.

    • @brettballman5629
      @brettballman5629 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s just 60 dlc is extra content you don’t need to play it it’s just extra

    • @OnlyEpicEmber
      @OnlyEpicEmber 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      But now it's in the THIRD DIMENSION!!! OOOOOHHHH

    • @FalconOfStorms
      @FalconOfStorms 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just see a thirty dollar savings on what I was going to spend for a third version, and a metric crapton more content than we've ever seen in a Pokemon game ever.

  • @diegog1853
    @diegog1853 4 ปีที่แล้ว +256

    The trailer for the dlc looked quite literally like a trailer for a kickstarter game, look at how many cool things we are planing to have... This thing comes out in june, why are you showing me only concept art and random pokemon models almost T-posing

    • @davidarenas2500
      @davidarenas2500 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Because they love the T-pose as you can see from the dead models

    • @krisjohns1864
      @krisjohns1864 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      It’s all ready and finished. The concept art and pretending they’re “working on it” is a lie. They just kept this all out of the barebones main games to just upsell. Now they get $90 instead of $60.

    • @yogurtyearner
      @yogurtyearner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      @@krisjohns1864 that's an awfully big accusation there dude. I'm not exactly fond of Gamefreak rn but don't go around stating this like it's a fact

    • @blodiaaa6990
      @blodiaaa6990 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Because it isn't finished

    • @ZudeXbox360
      @ZudeXbox360 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@yogurtyearner I'm not feeling confident with regards to what GameFreak has been doing these past few months.

  • @FurryzFornicateOfficial4
    @FurryzFornicateOfficial4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +446

    I'm glad to see someone has the same issues with this DLC and isn't just going to kiss Pokemon's ass just because its pokemon.

    • @ChambelsMann
      @ChambelsMann 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Can I ask what the problem with Pokemon having DLC is?

    • @xghostgaming9279
      @xghostgaming9279 4 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      ChambelsMann The fact the DLC is just scrapped content from the main game???

    • @randombluetoad1308
      @randombluetoad1308 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      xGhostGaming ???
      They’re entirely new areas with completely new characters. Sounds like original DLC content to me.

    • @ChambelsMann
      @ChambelsMann 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      xGhostGaming My question was mainly referring to why is DLC a problem now that it’s in pokemon. Because that argument could be said about all DLC. But basically every big game out there has paid DLC now. If people are willing to buy it, then it makes sense for a company that wants to make money to offer it. Video games are just getting more expensive.

    • @sammydray5919
      @sammydray5919 4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      @@ChambelsMann Most AAA games with DLC usually have good quality graphics and gameplay to justify its high price and paid dlc. Pokemon is none of these things. Its gameplay is absolutely barebones compared to other AAA titles and the DLC is nothing but content that SHOULD have been in the base game considering how barebones and empty it really is.
      Seriously aside from wild area (which is shoddily executed) the game didn't have any replay value whatsoever.

  • @iRmRs
    @iRmRs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    "it's not hard to be better than that"
    That's exactly what I've been thinking. I remember the days where I was buying 3+ copies of games because of lack of multiple save states

    • @yeyeye802
      @yeyeye802 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What the fuck

    • @nerostile333
      @nerostile333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      dito, still have 2 copies of alpha saphire, 4 copies of platinum and 2 copies of heart gold and soul silver. im happy that i used the opportunity where nowadays 1 cartridge is worth 80+ bucks.

  • @idonotmakevidsyet
    @idonotmakevidsyet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    Back then in HG/SS you would complete the game and unlock a whole new region. There was so much end game stuff. Now we have to pay for it.

    • @samuelgarza2466
      @samuelgarza2466 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Because it was already included in Gold and Silver, due to Pre-Iwata Game Freak being incompetent developers. It was only reasonable for something that was included in the original games would be included in the remakes.

    • @Wutz_
      @Wutz_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@samuelgarza2466 actually bashing hgss yikes , go back to playing swsh and throw your money at gf

    • @princegungnir3780
      @princegungnir3780 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Let's admit it, a lot of us bought sun and moon and then ultra sun and ultra moon. We had to start over, and play through basically the same game again. I feel like this is better, but it would be even better if the base game was satisfactory to begin with.

    • @Saber0003
      @Saber0003 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@princegungnir3780 Thats not really the fault of the "third version", and more about Gamefreak just being lazy. USun and UMoon were released for no other reason than to make easy money. A lot of "third versions" were truly the definitive way to experience the generation. Crystal, Emerald, and Platinum are all undoubtedly better versions than their companion games and Gen 5 did a great job with the sequels feeling different/new enough IMO. I've honestly seen nothing but cut corners with Pokemon and Gamefreak since the jump to 3D.

    • @SzegediXY
      @SzegediXY 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@princegungnir3780 The only thing you are saying that the USUM thing was a very big piece of shit, and this is just and average piece of shit, so we should be happy that gamefrEAk is not giving us that big pile of shit as before.

  • @clayjack9969
    @clayjack9969 4 ปีที่แล้ว +283

    I think if Pokémon sword and shield wasn’t so half assed I give this dlc a pass. But it was a glorified 3ds game for $60.

    • @melchior6427
      @melchior6427 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Exactly

    • @ego2133
      @ego2133 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      "An inferior 3ds pokemon game".

    • @SpadonKing1996
      @SpadonKing1996 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How?

    • @melchior6427
      @melchior6427 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Tom The Fish very bad

    • @SpadonKing1996
      @SpadonKing1996 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Tom The Fish how the heck was this game bad!? Have you even played it? The game looked gorgious. My bro who isn't even a pokemon gamer in the first place said it looked amazing. All my friends say the same as well. The 3ds and switch are two different things. If you play sword in tabletop or on a lite then the game can look a bit worse but still look 100x better then the 3ds versions ever will

  • @JackFrost-gj9hk
    @JackFrost-gj9hk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    Imagine paying $90 dollars for SwSh smh
    Those dlc better be good

    • @julianx2rl
      @julianx2rl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      It was actually cheaper to buy the game again back in Ultra Sun and Moon with a total of $80 instead of $90.

    • @GarrisonBurrows
      @GarrisonBurrows 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      $180 total for both games with both expansions. SuMo and USUM were $160 total

    • @arkaeussystem437
      @arkaeussystem437 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jack Frost I agree these dlc better be good and have quite a bit of content

    • @SchmergDergen
      @SchmergDergen 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Already did in Canada. Gonna be 120 when all is said and done.

    • @GamingHole
      @GamingHole 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If you already dislike SS, then you might as well stay away. DLC won't make a bad game good, it will make a good game better.

  • @PsyrikAntz967831
    @PsyrikAntz967831 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    The fact Game Freak’s “Town” video game failed miserably... that should give them the ‘Red Flag’ to not continue it and stop having half their team work on a side game while simultaneously having the other half working on a *MAJOR* title... but hey 😌

    • @gheredin4074
      @gheredin4074 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It wasn't half and half. It was more that the A team worked on little town hero. The B team on swoshi. You know, the major pokemon title most people were waiting.

    • @generalyahya_
      @generalyahya_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gheredin4074 so they do have enough people, they just make them work on sidegames

    • @WeeklyComedian
      @WeeklyComedian 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      LTH was not from the A team

  • @leodb3894
    @leodb3894 4 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    Pokemon: Makes announcement
    Arlo: ‘Meaty and substantial’.

    • @Dionaea_floridensis
      @Dionaea_floridensis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    • @dw5926
      @dw5926 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Dionaea_floridensis No!

  • @EmberBlaze99
    @EmberBlaze99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +310

    Gamefreak: *releases an unfinished game*
    "yeah we'll finish that later and charge people extra for it"

    • @ShursGarden
      @ShursGarden 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The game was finished, just not as packed with features like gen 5.

    • @MrTendo0
      @MrTendo0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      What about Diamond and Pearl.

    • @SzegediXY
      @SzegediXY 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@MrTendo0 What about HGSS?

    • @firebal6129
      @firebal6129 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      It's Blaze they seem to be taking lessons from EA

    • @MrTendo0
      @MrTendo0 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SzegediXY What about Ruby and Sapphire?

  • @spartaninvirginia
    @spartaninvirginia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +214

    Nintendo just made a historically $40 game a $90 game.
    I might be done with Pokemon.

    • @d4c_reznor470
      @d4c_reznor470 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Inflation

    • @CrapMyHat
      @CrapMyHat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      With 3ds graphics (only slightly exaggerating there). Point being, it is hard to argue that this version is such an upgrade in any area to justify making it a premium product. I rather buy a third version a year down the line for the full $60 price tag, as then they would improve the base experience at least which they will never do now. Paid DLC gives them a good excuse to be even lazier than usual.

    • @d4c_reznor470
      @d4c_reznor470 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A A finally Pokémon does something different and y’all are complaining as if you want the same thing every year

    • @milboxr9772
      @milboxr9772 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@d4c_reznor470 yea because everyone wants something different that costs more than previous titles idiot

    • @fishfan2
      @fishfan2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@d4c_reznor470 Then why do xbox and ps games still cost 60

  • @captainhyrule5146
    @captainhyrule5146 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Pokémon is like Apple. They do weird shit, usually behind everyone else, but have the most loyal fan base and a very beloved IP

    • @RayoMcQueen95990
      @RayoMcQueen95990 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Curell101 Z agreed, I have an iPhone, but I find it stupid that there is not a headphone jack unless you use the adapter which connects to the charging port. Not only that, but the battery drains super quickly. Not a fan of that

    • @Katt-ci6gw
      @Katt-ci6gw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed it’s just kind of sad

  • @joeybutjoey
    @joeybutjoey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +324

    i’ve had way too much experience with actually honest and great developers (Smash, Animal Crossing, Splatoon) to ever respect the Pokemon developers ever again

    • @Haildawn
      @Haildawn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      YUUUP

    • @Hydra_X9K_Music
      @Hydra_X9K_Music 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Someone's salty lol

    • @moosinium
      @moosinium 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      @@Hydra_X9K_Music How though?

    • @Hydra_X9K_Music
      @Hydra_X9K_Music 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@moosinium Cause he's acting like gamefreak moraly abused him or something lol

    • @jake-xe5it
      @jake-xe5it 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Aren’t those all developed by Nintendo though? Smash has dlc, and judging by what they are doing now, the new animal crossing may have dlc as well.

  • @LoekTheKing
    @LoekTheKing 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Commented this on your reaction video too... But this is how I feel about it...
    I'm disgusted at the fact Game Freak *intentionally makes very little post-game content* to then sell us DLC with some content.

    • @UmbreonMessiah
      @UmbreonMessiah 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Uhhhh....
      Are you on crack? Have you even *played online?*

    • @rosilinathedragon4382
      @rosilinathedragon4382 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      tpc rushed em, not really their fault

    • @SzegediXY
      @SzegediXY 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@UmbreonMessiah Online is not post game content.

    • @raymondthrone7197
      @raymondthrone7197 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@UmbreonMessiah Nope, GF's shitty servers make it nothing more than painful.

    • @LoekTheKing
      @LoekTheKing 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rosilinathedragon4382 Yeah, my statement was meant towards The Pokémon Company, sorry about that. TPC is also the one behind the DLC, so yeah, I still mean the same except "Game Freak" replaced with "The Pokémon Company".

  • @JadeMythriil
    @JadeMythriil 4 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    It saddens me this is going to be a new trend for pokemon; release a half-assed game and then sell the rest as DLC. The Pokemon Conpany is becoming the new EA and this will only get worse.

    • @DetectiveBarricade
      @DetectiveBarricade 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Then again, they've been kind of doing this for years through the third version or sequels or... whatever the hell Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon were.

    • @theakiwar9118
      @theakiwar9118 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      DetectiveBarricade yeah they have but Platinum and emerald were games full of content and worthwhile. You could sink in thousands of hours into the battle frontier. Ever since Sun and Moon Pokemon has been on a steady decline. I will give them the benefit of the doubt for X and Y and ORAS

    • @DetectiveBarricade
      @DetectiveBarricade 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@theakiwar9118 90% of Emerald and Platinum's content was still recycled from Ruby and Sapphire and Diamond and Pearl respectfully. When you think about it, Emerald and Platinum were what the first sets of games in their generations should have been. (I'm still a little salty OR/AS didn't include the Battle Frontier, instead reusing X/Y's Battle Maison)
      I'm not defending the DLC. I hope we're all wrong and these expansions prove to be amazing, and at least having access to the older Pokemon is free, but... right now this doesn't sit right with me - and I've been "suckered" into buying Emerald, Platinum, and Ultra Moon. (have yet to even touch either Let's Go game despite seeing used copies for cheap)

    • @thereverseeffect7269
      @thereverseeffect7269 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "New trend" "happens one game" something needs to happen more then once for it to be a trend
      also, SwSh werent half assed, just because you dont like what you got, doesnt mean they were

    • @theakiwar9118
      @theakiwar9118 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      TheReverseEffect Walls are clipping in the wild area and weather is a mess, the animations for all old pokemon are reused and the story is barebones, with the action happening off screen. It screams half assed to me. And I have been into gaming when the atari 2600 was still around. Believe me when I say that I know fully well what half assed means.

  • @Strausburg
    @Strausburg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    The base game looks to be more like a $30 game... but they're selling for double that price. So no, paid DLC on top of that isn't fixing it for me.

  • @KurumiTokisakiNightmareSpirit
    @KurumiTokisakiNightmareSpirit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +254

    My guess the next expansion pass after this will be....
    *Megas and Z-Moves Return!*

    • @DarkyChuu
      @DarkyChuu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      30 bucks again jsut for that.
      And don't forget 30 bucks for the OTHER dlc that will add all the pokémon back, and maybe like, one map to explore.
      And people don't seem to realize what's happening and treat the incoming DLCs as some "third version" stuff, as if GF wasn't planning anything else beyond this "expansion pass". Come on...

    • @CreativeSteve69
      @CreativeSteve69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DarkyChuu there not giving us more than what they said its $30 price tag pay one n infintie updates over the year.

    • @steveqi9309
      @steveqi9309 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nobel Nas that is not true, both part 1 and part 2 of the dlc are included in the season pass, which is 30 dollars. So you are getting 2 maps and 200 Pokémon for 30 dollars.

    • @DarkyChuu
      @DarkyChuu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@steveqi9309 You didn't get what I said. Maybe I expressed myself wrongly.
      I basically said there was going to be a second/third pass/DLC, whatever you want to call it, that will cost 30 bucks there too just to add the rest and maybe a tiny bit of content. I was NOT talking about their current Expansion Pass in any way, I'm very aware of its content.
      Basically :
      - Base game : 60
      - Expansion pass : 30
      - Megas & Z moves : 30
      - 2nd Expansion Pass with a single map for both games because why not, it's GameFreak : 30
      And so on.
      I hope it's clear now.

    • @c0mpu73rguy
      @c0mpu73rguy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kurumi Tokisaki No, that won’t happen.

  • @airhawkey
    @airhawkey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    90$ for a game that’s got the content value of _maybe_ ultra sun and moon, horrible to see a series I’ve loved just get torn apart for money

    • @nharviala
      @nharviala 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      It's really sad to see what Pokemon's become. I wonder how much of this would have been in the base game if they didn't lose faith and move over half of their staff off of the series that makes 97% of their income. They may have had cutscenes that look good, decent graphics, realistic battle animations, realistic cutscene animations, and not have the game somehow nearly as buggy as gen 1 games.

    • @Hydra_X9K_Music
      @Hydra_X9K_Music 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You can bitch after you see the content

    • @justascarecrow6988
      @justascarecrow6988 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@Hydra_X9K_Music Why bitch AFTER when we can complain about the fact that, no matter how good the content is, it should have been in the basegame to begin with?

    • @cc-cl9zz
      @cc-cl9zz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Pokemon has always been about money

    • @Hydra_X9K_Music
      @Hydra_X9K_Music 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@justascarecrow6988 I guess there will always be something to complain about. No appeasing everyone.

  • @jeremyelkayam
    @jeremyelkayam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    You said everything I was thinking about this Direct... I like that they’re adding more content as DLC instead of releasing it as a new game, but I really wish they’d just made a complete game to begin with instead of fixing it later.

    • @AuraBlaze491
      @AuraBlaze491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well if they did delay people like you will be pissed why it took long and still be pissed anyways

    • @FieryMeltman
      @FieryMeltman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@AuraBlaze491 Nope. Everyone understood when Metroid was delayed.

    • @jeremyelkayam
      @jeremyelkayam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      AuraBlaze491 No; I wouldn’t be angry about a delay. In fact, I’ve been clamoring for years for Pokémon to move away from yearly game releases. It overworks the developers at Game Freak and gives us rushed games that aren’t as good as they could be.
      If we got an amazing new Pokémon game every 2-3 years that was on the level of quality of HGSS or BW2, I would enjoy the games so much more. 🙂

    • @BucioTheZenith
      @BucioTheZenith 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      AuraBlaze491 I agree with those other 2 guys.

  • @mctankies
    @mctankies 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I'm playing Digimon Cyber Sleuth: Hacker's Memory right now and enjoying it WAY more than Sword & Shield.
    Feels like I'm actually getting my $60 worth.
    The characters and story are far more interesting than anything Pokemon has ever put out.

    • @darkmoon2503
      @darkmoon2503 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's cheaper than $60, right? I only payed $50 day one.

    • @carguy1697
      @carguy1697 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dragon Dreamer Digimon story is boring as hell its fine that you like the game but you are trying way to hard. I have cyber sleuth it’s alright, not worth 60 either btw

    • @srfrancium9728
      @srfrancium9728 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@carguy1697 I bought yokai watch for 5 dollars and it was still more worth it than swsh

    • @kokosigar4536
      @kokosigar4536 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@srfrancium9728 I had way more fun in yokai watch 3 than I did in pokemon sword. Thats just sad.

    • @terminatortv8109
      @terminatortv8109 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know you get two 60$ games for the price of 50$ I think I'm going to go back and play it soon.