Kiss 1973 Loft Rehearsal
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- Rare recording of Kiss rehearsing at their New York City loft (10 East 23rd Street) in May 1973. I cannot vouch 100% for the authenticity of this recording, but to my ears it sounds like the real deal. And if it's not then, hey, at least you didn't have to pay to hear it!
At the time this recording was supposedly made, Kiss had already performed their first handful of shows and were still taking up residence in local New York clubs (at least one reference to the Daisy (a club in Amityville) can be heard on this tape). They had not yet been signed to a record contract.
Track listing:
-soundcheck
-Strutter
-Firehouse
-Watchin' You
-Let Me Know
-Life in the Woods (false start)
-Life in the Woods
-Acrobat
Kiss is:
Paul Stanley - guitar and lead vocal
Gene Simmons - bass and lead vocal
Ace Frehley - guitar
Peter Criss - drums - บันเทิง
Ace was and always will be the tradesound of Kiss , He "made" the songs complete and likeble in every single song , Ace , Kiss fans thank you for the great memories , Rock on !!!
His leads are so damn cool
He’s my favorite too
ABSOLUTELY!!😁🤟
OMG will you stop spewing lies? Absolutely false. Most of the first album was written and rehearsed before Ace even auditioned for KISS. You Ace fans are completely delusional
@@brianstrutter1501 dude nobody said that he wrote the songs , he "made" the songs better with his style of playing , relax man.
6:15 Peter: "Frehley, you better straighten your ass out" Their voices are unmistakable to long time fans. This must be a Vault find
I've only been a fan for a year and I can tell who's voice is who's lol
Love the hotter than hell demos
He said that a bit too freely in my opinion.
I especially like to hear the early fills in Firehouse. In the early days no two takes were ever exactly alike. The creativity going on here too is phenomenal.
That Strutter solo!!!!! Lightning in a bottle. ACE is the G.O.A.T.. ♠️
Vintage guitar tones. Amazing. Ace's playing sounds bluesier than in the records.
Damn this is awesome! Makes me remember why I fell in love with this band when I was a kid.
I love Ace's playing here, all the ascebding double-stop country slides, he drifted away from that after the first few records
yeah...i've always loved Ace's playing...he was an original
It's all pentatonic scales, no BS fusion crap of mixilodian, Dorian, and other scales that combined minor and major 3rds, 5ths and flat notes ascending or descending into roots, it was, what feels good, not more notes are better, or faster the better, just sped up blues riffs basically
I hate guys that use insider lingo to sound smarter than everyone else.
This is just plain BAD ASS!!!!!!! I care less what anyone else thinks. This is Fuckin' PRICELESS to the true KISS ARMY. The holy grail indeed!!!!!!! AWESOME!!!!!
+Brannon Bright Yeah nothing but the real deal with out all the bullshit. Love the raw sound of a rehearsal.
"The true Kiss army? You guys got imitators now? I don't think there are too many fake Kiss armies running around. Most of Kiss army is reaching retirement age these days.
Jason Allen lol
Kinda makes ya feel like u are sitting around drinking beer, watching them play at a party
You do feel that vibe.....uhmm, I still have my ear buds humming to a higher tune.
I love Ace's solos on these early versions of Strutter. AWESOME!
Agreed...this version of strutter shoulda been on kiss alive 1. add in a crowd and you have a hit. Ace's strutter in this rehearsal friggin rocked. I/m not a huge paul fan, but his rhythm work on strutter was amazing also.
You can hear and feel the energy of them live very well in this recording.
The best no one before or after they came along they talk of the fan four it sure as hell isn't the Beatles they aren't even in the same arena
It really does sound authentic, COOL! No one ever gives Peter Criss his deserves. That's so original!
When the band started, he was probably the best musician in the band. As the rest of the guys grew musically, Peter regressed due to drug use. Ace was always sloppy, but it was truly his style. No one could ever imitate it. The 4 of them could not have made it in any other line up. The stars aligned and from 1973 to 1978 it was pure magic. Never the greatest musicians, but together, they took over the world for 6 years. I really hope by the end if the road they let Peter and Ace play at least a few songs, IN MAKE UP!!
@@geoffdavis1954 Peter, being the oldest, was also the most EXPERIENCED. Having already been a "professional" (paid) musician when they met.
He sucks
@@geoffdavis1954 I don't really see the period when Peter regressed until he was booted. In fact I think he improved. Sounds like more Paul and Gene propaganda has been absorbed by the KISS fans.
@@mr.brenman2132
It's not "propaganda".
What Paul wrote about Peter is plausible.
As drug-addict he had not the discipline with his talent and his social behavior, they needed. Gene said once "I f*cking hate drug-addicts".
And Paul said about Tommy: "I love his playing.
And I love his WORK ETHIC! "(Paul's mother came from Germany).
In another interview:
"I don't need anybody to shoot in my head".
My (german) teamleader
at work usually says: "You don't get paid for your talent. You get paid for WORK!"
Today Paul and Gene say Peter was a horrible drummer, but his style fits the band and the music just right in addition to the songs he sings on. Original members all the way for me. This rocks and is what I remember as a kid.
Muy cierto Kiss es como The Beatles,Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith solamente los integrantes originales pueden hacer sonar con química a la banda
the drumming here is utterly kickass. listen to Strutter, the way Criss’ accents lock in with what Ace is playing on his rhythm parts.
Pete the king of swing!
Paul's voice is definitely, absolutely unmistakable here. Sounds like the one and only original and early KISS to me! And I've been listening to them since they released that incredible first album when I was still in high school, circa 1974.
this is the first time kiss was together, the start of that magic. i love this. and they had no money at the start. but listening to this you knew magic was gonna happen. i love this demo rehearsal.
Best "watchin you" I have ever heard. Good chemistry, great lead guitar, even Peter pulled through well.
SupaStah01 o
Stephen Joens not really.
Why wouldn't Peter sound great? He doesn't deserve all the bs thrown at him.
Peter is so together here!
I was thinking the same thing. H e actually sounds like the guy i charge. Telling Ace to get it together at one point and just kind of leading the session.His playing is superb.
Garegh62 ummm..and why wluldvthat be needed..and ace? Plucking the same note for 8 bars? Special?
Probably taking in way less drugs and booze
How could there be any dislikes for this?
Because Idiocy.
They're trolls, bots, idiots...
Millie Vanilli and George Micheal-ish fans. 🤣
@@chuckpotockimusic2288 !!!!!!!!!! WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY ARE FUCKING *IDIOTS!!!!????*
extreme metal elitists
This is the coolest thing I have ever come across in my almost 50 years of being a huge KISS fan! Thanks for posting it.
0:36 strutter
7:20 firehouse
12:00 watchin you
16:25 let me know
21:02 life in the woods
26:46 acrobat
+Samuel Campos acrobat made it on to the first album as "love theme from kiss"
Samuel Campos bless you.
My Band number. one.
@@joescicchitano7753 i think there are two songs here. Love theme from kiss, which did make it on the 1st album, and it leads into acrobat at the end. Acrobat is on Kissology vol 1. And is a different song
Interesting
early KISS was rock and roll at it's rawest, and most hungry. The songs were great.
Great stuff. My favorite era of KISS. I love the rawness of it.
Ace is BURNING on this. Best version of Firehouse I have heard. Peters drumming dispels every negative thing Paul or Gene has ever said about him.
the raw sound is so cool from the 70s
absolutley
like Mick Taylor era Stones
0:12 yeah thats pretty "raw"
Sounds best on 8track tape
Reminds me of my band back in the 70$-80
It's authentic. Paul's voice is unmistakable.
same with Peter. You can clearly hear them rehearsing for the Daisy on Life in the Woods.
Xialong1963 Okay, all of my research says it's real. I guess Ace hadn't fully developed his style at that point. The repeating triplets and slow vibrato bends that so define his sound were not part of his skill set at that point. It was supposedly recorded by Gene Simmons on a two track recording machine in the spring of 1973. It's a Japanese release on Zodiac Records from April of 2014. How they got the tapes is a mystery! Thank you for sharing, as this has been an eye-opening look into KISS' early development. By the way, "Space Invader" is Ace's best album in years. find some samples and enjoy!
No doubt its real
Yup its them, Ace's voice is unmistakeable, as is the arrangment of Firehouse from the demo sessions. And that is Ace playing as well, even without his later signature licks its distinctive. BIG THANKS to OP!!! :-)
Hi All they are also playing the songs on guitar very clean without much distortion or Gain , kind of surprised me at first actually .
Sounds like them to this 40+ year fan. Guitars are tuned differently than on the first records. Just a observation. Super cool vintage stuff that is amazing to hear!
THANK YOU !!
Their early raw sound was the very best of Kiss
Awesome, as a former member of the KISS ARMY who was honourable discharged in 1981, I truly appreciate this.
KISStard
this was the making of the best rock group of all time.... thank you for all the memories...the 70s rocked and so did these guys!!! so incredible....
I have been a Kiss fan since 1978 I was 11 at that time And to this time I can Tell You This Is KISS, And I love this!!!There is nothing like the fumbling around sounds like rehearsal THIS IS GREAT!!! Rich LUKE
Iam sorry I have been a KISS fan since 1976.I remember having long hair that I would not get cut And my mother bribing me with the Destroyer album Of course I got my hair cut. Rich LUKE
No mistaking Paul's voice...
jesus christ, no you're not
I was age 10,… though I bailed on Dynasty, then got back in in 1995.
this is the way rock was meant to be.. especially on strutter solo. long live ace!
And yet Ace didn't write or co-write any of these songs
@@brianstrutter1501it's about what he brought to the mix. try imagining "watching you" without ace's descending lines. just because he isn't credited as a cowriter doesn't mean he had zero influence on the finished products of these early songs.
@Caveman-ye
And long live his songwriters, and all of them who took care of him. Gene: "I loved him.
We all took care of him".
Paul: "Left on his own device, he'd hang himself".
@@brianstrutter1501 so you're saying the guy who came-up with that solo and played it here isn't a co-writer?
Truly one of the greatest rock bands from the 70’s that has survived !! Back in the 80’s I wasn’t so sure they would make it.
Rock on KISS!!!
This version of Firehouse is absolutely brilliant!!!
That was awesome. So much great stuff! Acrobat was something else, with all those breaks and the jamming, really cool. I'm 62 and got on board with the first record in 1974, so this is a huge treat! Thanks for posting. It never ceases to amaze me where you guys find all this stuff!!
This is AWESOME!!!! KISS band practice! Priceless!!!
Ace is shredding the leads on these recording, Peter is in the pocket every hit, Gene's riding the bass, n well Paul is barley heard. But all in all u can see why they made it out of the basement.
I bet Paul is not even micd up lol
I remember my first band ha no PA
Here is a good example of a drummer playing "in the pocket"
th-cam.com/video/CeIqL2MCUSA/w-d-xo.html
Can you tell the difference?
It's not a basement....
It's a loft (you f---ing idiot)
@@david-ss5qu hahaha chill man
Listening to this for the 5th time, id say its 100% legit. Ace was burning at this point !!!
why would anyone think this is NOT legit? was there a wave of people faking early Kiss recordings a few years a go? 😂
Wow! This is great.
Peter Criss' voice & drumming is bang on. From the real early Kiss stuff I have seen & heard on youtube, it seemed like Peter was the leader of the band in the very early days, with all the banter etc.
There is a video from their first shows at Coventry and Peter is doing 90% of the talking. Peter's sisters can be seen dancing on the front of the stage.
@@jhn146A there's also audio from the Daisy around this time where Pete is doing 95% of the talking
I think Paul put an end to that by having the rehearsed raps and Peter only having a mic when the roadie swings it around for him.
Peter definitely cursed a lot. And Paul’s unscripted banter from the daisy shows is terrible. I just wish Peter got to sing more.
Well he is the elder statesman of KISS and I believe had the most experience by the time he joined KISS.
What they lacked in technicality, they made up for in feeling, chemistry, energy, and sheer chutzpah. A great basement blues/rock sound. They were able to take this fun sound that you'd hear in pretty much any corner bar, and run with it. All the way to the top.
agreed..add the kabuki theatre and u had eventual gold
like bill ham did w/ zz topps. take all things Texana/border/ARKLATX and run with it.
Man, life in the woods is stuck in my head. Original guys have something. It shouldn't add up but it works for me. I am a diehard KISS fan, what Gene and Paul don't understand is that I would pay money to hear the original members making fart noises over hearing a "musically superior" version of KISS.
Very cool to hear the RAW sound to these early Kiss tunes ... Classic !
I have waited all my life to Hear This !!!!
RiKie Zer0
Of course it's them. You can plainly tell by their playing style. It's pretty obvious to any musician with a good set of ears IMO
I just love the cleaner guitars back when the rock distortion came from actually playing the instrument hard!
+Neil Smith Ace Frehley swapped his stock pickups out for a set of DiMarzios not long after this, so that also contributed to a more distorted sound in future Kiss tunes.
+Neil Smith
And being able to afford better gear later on,..and ultimately getting it for free through endorsements helped the sound a little as well......
Marc Robinson Personally, I like the more raw, unpolished sound. I like my rock like I like my ladies - smelly and missing teeth!
Neil Smith LMAO!!!
Never heard it QUITE like that.....But to each his own.....I know what you mean though....Eric Clapton in The Cream was GREAT....then he got all "commercial"....and now in what SHOULD be the most creative and productive years of his life, he's dedicated himself to becoming nothing more than a cover band for old blues artists......sad.
+The Dizz
so true. take away the massive gain nowadays and other effects and this world will loose half of its guitar heroes.
That picture was my favorite growing up. Had a poster on the inside of my door
Really cool for a Kiss fan.
Strutter was never one of my favorites, but Ace's lead on this is great. I like this version. Thanks for posting.
agreed. better than the album version
Aw man you kiddin'!! Strutter is my favorite KISS jam.
Its tasty as fuck! ❤
It's such an awesome thing that these tapes even excist! :D
Smiles! Of course it's the boys...who else in 1973 would be rehearsing "Strutter" ...? Thanks for posting!
How can anyone WONDER if this is KISS? Their individual voices are unmistakable, as well as is Ace's guitar. And what is with all the Peter bashing? Back in the day, he sang some of their best songs! Paul is the one who was never my favorite (at 8 years old it was a toss up between Ace and Gene, as an adult it is a solid Ace) but it HAD to be all four of them or it just might not have worked! LOVED finding this on here! Thanks for sharing!
Saw them in 75. This is wonderful indeed. One thing you never hear credited is what a good rythm guitarist Paul was. And why oh why are demos often better than the album in rock and roll?
Drives me crazy!
Cuz producers Kerner and Wise thought they knew better than these new kids.
Kiss army supports the 4 originals.
So does the 8track museum in Dallas,Texas. and Roxbury,New York
Ronald Dreimanis eric carr was a better drummer
8 Track Museum is gone.
Nope....no love for a junkie who deprived the world of his god giving talents! Peter Chris ?...nothing lost whe he left Proof is in the albums that Anton Fig drummed on
This recording sounds authentic to me. I was there during 1973. I'm quoted in Ken Sharp's book: "Nothing To Lose; The Making of KISS 1972-1975."
Would love to hear more stories.
@@superlawns2888 In my upcoming book, thank you...
Walked past that loft on 23st many times, sober, drunk, stoned. Saw Ace @ the limelight in '86, Gene & Paul joined him onstage, great show!
nycrnr - I'm wayyy late on this post...LOL. Are you sure it was in '86? I had won a VIP pass in '89 to see Ace at The Limelight with Princess Pang and Britny Fox as openers. Gene & Paul were onstage with Ace then.
If it's Paul, then it's Kiss. NOBODY - no tribute artists or anything - manage to sound like Paul. And it's definitely Paul on this recording.
+You can hear sometimes Peter and Ace's talking between songs too.
Totally agree. No one can copy Paul. The greatest rock voice in the World.
Thank you for sharing this!
That solo Ace plays during Strutter is mind-blowing.
Love this!! Makes me feel like I was up in the loft sitting in and listening to something great being made
Thank you so much for posting this!!!! What a gem!
HELL YES!! Love this!! Thanks for uploading dude!!!
Damn this was great - goosebumps, and a big grin on my face! Thanks for posting!!
That jamming breakdown on "Firehouse" (9:31- 10:47) was awesome. I rather wish they'd kept that intact (maybe with a shorter gap) for later versions of the song.
Yes that part jumped out at me too. Peter and Ace did something there that sounded like it had a Jane's Addiction vibe. How interesting.
It's too bad Kenny Kerner and Richie Wise couldn't capture this energy on the first album.
Absolutely this is them. What a great powerful recording of the guitars & drums - which would finally be captured on ALIVE! This is garage rock at its best
And the second album
KISS was Real Glam Rock 1973-75
Yep!
Or Hotter Than Hell.
This was when Peter and Ace were on fire.
I grew up in the 1970's and loved this band. This must have been such an exciting time for them.
Been a KISS fan since 1974, and I love this. This is back in the days they were young and hungry, the beginnings of the KISS empire. Thanks for uploading.
Definitely Kiss. I just love this. Thanks for uploading, You can hear how good they were here.
Love that someone (probably Paul) plays the riff to “So You Want to Be a Rock n Roll Star” right at the beginning. Little did they know.
Thank you SO much for posting this.
I love to listen to Paul sing in the early years he had such a great voice and yet he did not fully discover how to use it yet
exactly
The magic as it’s being made. Priceless!!
this is amazing!!Thank you!
This is so awesome!! I'm a huge Fan who thought he heard everything?? Thanks for this!
This brings back memories 6th grade 1975 I proudly carried my brand new kiss alive album to school with me for 21 days straight loved it…I was considered a freak but I didn’t care it was my music and I loved it!!!!!
They were great...I was a big fan too...a little later in the early 80's
that's when I got it !
I used to live at 14 East 23rd from 2006-2006. It wasn't until months after I moved that I found out Kiss' Loft address.
My bedroom studio must've bumped up against the same wall as their rehearsal room.
Thank you for uploading it...
Thank you for posting this!!!!!!!!
I first saw them live in '78 (I was 9) and many times since. They were never this tight. Great recording!
You should check out
The Midnight Special
Dick Clark's In Concert
Winterland 74 or 75. people dispute the year
Budokan 77
I think the tightness will impress you.
Holy shit! Thanks for sharing
Hey guys. Thank you for this! Great stuff!
Ace is fantastic on this. Been listening to Kiss since 75 and I can tell this is definitely them. Can't believe this exists after all these years.
I'm amazed just how good this is, not only is the audio good for the time, but the versions of the songs are even better than what ended up on the records. Sometimes the songs get over produced in the studio. Ace's guitar work on this version of Firehouse is amazing! Thanks for uploading!! It's weird this recording is not more widely known.
This sounds great!
Thank you. You r awesome.
Wow, heard bits and pieces of this before, and it doesn't get old hearing them in infancy..
This Paul's voice is unmistakable!!!
Wow... The songs are as distinctive and iconic as a 70 Barracuda. Don't know where you found this but how cool. Thanks!
The most amazing band. To see the different changes Kiss had to offer. And stayed alive. They been through a lot of shit. But, managed to keep going. From the early days til now. Thanks guys. Appreciate everything.
Thanks so much! rock ON!!!
I was only 10 when this rehearsal took place, but by 1976 I was all in. It is amazing the amount of KISS content is out today. Back then if they were going on TV, we went nuts in my house with anticipation of seeing them because our parents would not let us see them in concert.
12:06 Man do I just love that opening riff on "Watchin' You."
Awesome! Thanks for posting! So Life in the Woods became the love theme from kiss.
This is truly amazing. Headphones on and I'm sitting in the room with them.
Authentic, that is PAUL without a doubt!!! GREAT POST. Thank You!!
Paul's voice is unmistakeable...no one could fake that.
Love this and that solo of Ace
Great stuff! Watchin' You would go to my all time top 5 Kiss songs, and this version is very interesting!
Ace on Strutter!, I wish they'd play this version live!
I love ace's solo in firehouse
The demo version of Strutter is better than the recorded version on the first album.
I agree - same w/Firehouse. They were able to freelance like with live shows. Obviously that's why they were dead in the water until "ALIVE I." Just the same, I wore out the vinyl on each of the 1st three albums.
Aces solo rocks
You should hear the unreleased demo version. The solo is unbelievable. Way better than the album version
kerner and wise shit the bed slowed it all down didnt allow the energy like here
To sad the vocals are low
After strutted you hear Peter say “Frehley you better straighten your ass out” lolll
This is gold!!!!