Throw Away Your Bootstraps! What does a goalie pad bootstrap do?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 มิ.ย. 2024
- I had a lot of people asking me how to wear their bootstraps, or if they are even necessary. So I decided to make this video and talk about why I no longer use bootstraps and why I think they aren't needed anymore.
They can still serve a purpose (which I go over in the video) but I feel for the majority of people you can take them off and your ankles, knees and hips will thank you.
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I personally use mine with my bootstrap loop, I have a 24.5" knee to floor. I edge into 37" territory, so pads like to pop out from under my knee. Using that bootstrap loop stops that. I just do it to help keep my pads in place in an up and downward movement.
seeing all those beauty pads makes me jealous!
My son has gone through these iterations over the last few years from using both the normal toe ties and the boot strap with his Bauer pads, which is then went through the Lundy loop when he got his True skates. When he got his OPTIK IV pads, he started using the elastic toe strap, and then after reading an article about using no toe ties, he tried it without them and like it even more. So, he finished his U16 year like that and is now playing juniors with that setup. We also added an extra 1/4” pad in the landing zone for better biomechanics and way less strain on the entire leg from the hip to the knee, to the ankle. Pros were using thicker landing pads until the NHL reduced the sizes of pads, including the landing zone, which is unfortunate because it probably contributes a lot to the hip issues goalies are suffering these days. But that’s a topic for a different day! You rock. Great videos!
Thanks for the kind words and thanks for watching!
So when you say your son tried a season without toe ties does that mean he went back to the original laces ? Or no tie on the toes but in the middle of the skates ?
@@raketao7117 No to ties at all…He loved it that way, but his coach at goalie camp told him to put them back (more old school). He was fine without them though and think he should go back to it, but he’s 18 now and can make his own decisions. LOL
You are a gear junky! Love it
Great info. I wear a G4 warrior in a 32” and always strap it Lundy style. I have often contemplated if it was even needed.
Personally I put the boot strap underneath the arch/bridge of my foot, it helps the boot of the pad move with my skate when I am stretching to make a save but it also allows for good foot rotation if you don't have it too tight
Super helpful video. Can’t believe I haven’t seen this one before! I’ve always used a bootstrap on my Optiks but super loose and really kind of useless. Will keep this loose on my new CCM’s.
Glad it was helpful!
You are totally correct Matt. With the bungie cord toe bridge, I have shed the ankle strap (2 seasons now). I’m in my late 40’s (been playing goal non stop since my early 20’s) and without the ankle strap, it has allowed me way more freedom, flexibility, and less stress on my knees, ankles, and hips. I am able to punch out toe saves more frequently and have more low save coverage so the added mobility is a plus. You nailed it with a better reverse VH performance too. The bungie cord toe bridge is a game changer for us goalies. Congrats on your discovery and sharing this information. It’s a win win for us all. Keep up the good work. 👍🏻
I can't take credit for this discovery, I just figured a video would get the info out to more people!
Very informative!
Glad it was helpful!
Removed both straps from Warrior Ritual G4 and used an elastic cord (CCM Toe Elastic Kit, VAUGHN Bungee Toe Strap, BRIAN’S Smart Toe Straps Cord or anything like that). A GAME CHANGER...
After couple of months, the original velcro was not working anymore. Replaced by side released buckles.
Great video. Made the mistake last year of pulling the boot strap too tight and ended up with a bad ankle sprain that still bugs me - I’m 26 now, like you said it was never an issue on my young ankles lol. Switching to a pad with no boot strap and going to try Brian’s toe ties. Was worried about no boot strap at first but seems like this will help alleviate the ankle issues.
My ankle pain has subsided since dumping the boot straps especially because of RVH.
Thanks for the video, I never thought about it that way, but that makes a lot of sense! Have you ever considered the same issue in skater/rollerhockey?
So, I've never played roller so I am a bit out of my element. But I can see it having the same effect as on ice.
Little tab that made me laugh. 👍🏻 😂
Im that one goalie that still uses boot straps but a put them supper loose so its like there not even there but they dont drag on the ice
I found out I was wearing my bootstraps too tight and it wouldn't allow my butterfly to fully close my 5 hole. I generally have a pretty narrow butterfly so I thought it was me just not being flexible enough but I loosened those straps and it was a night and day difference
What about toe hooks? I am looking to improve my game and your videos haVe helped me with what gear would be Best for me. Thank you for your content
Toe Hooks are awful from my experience. They break constantly and people have to keep buying replacement parts. Just grab an bungie toe tie and it should be a solid upgrade.
One quick random question....@ 11:58, you tuck in your tags up your sleeve from the jersey. Why are they still on?!?!? @HockeyReviews?
Shhhhs! Don't tell my secret. In reality, I don't take the tags off unless I wear them outside my house. I keep tags as they sometimes have unique tags or indentifying details on them.
@HockeyReviews here is my story. im 15 and when I was about 11 I was at a skate, I had leather traditional bootstraps. medium tightness. One rippepd off during the skate. It was horrible. My leg felt weird and very sloppy and I have been scared to try without a bootstrap since. Also wouldn't hurt to mention I don't usually like change in the pads, Only time I have changed the strapping on my pad is when I got my first new pair of pads, which have a smart bootstrap (brains) Any thoughts? This intrigues me But I don't want to take off my bootstrap and hate it
My Vaugns have removable straps so I just pulled the strap to try it. if I didn't like it I could always add it back in. You could just roll the strap up and secure it to try it if your pads don't have removable straps. I now have no straps on my pads and use the newer strapping system that I sewed in myself. I won't ever go back to a boot strap!
I need my boot strap! I hang my pads on my Sumo Tower bag with them. I keep them as loose as I can without it being so lose I run over them, as mine aren’t removable.
Sounds like your bag needs your bootstraps ;)
I just carry mine in my shoulder with them tied together by the bungee laces
I actually put mine on my bag backwards using the toe laces
Keeping the tag on that jersey youre wearing?
Shhhhs! Don't tell my secret. In reality, I don't take the tags off unless I wear them outside my house. I keep tags as they sometimes have unique tags or indentifying details on them.
Hey, sorry if you've done a video on this or already answered this question. What would you recommend (CCM pads), to apply the velcro at the knee block behind the knee or apply it to the calf option? I currently use knee but want to try calf however in beer league we dont have practices which makes trying new things hard.
It's all personal preference. I use become the knee as I find I fall out of the knee if I do it to the calf. Just try it in warm up
@@HockeyReviews Good point. I just feel like it'd be more comfortable in the RVH etc. Thanks for the reply.
@@inthewoodsmtb sorry for awful spelling... I meant behind the knee. I RVH a LOT and don't really have issues. But I can see how opening that up would be nicer.
Interesting. But will it Djent?
Only if your name is Harvey.
I am a traditionalist. I’ve worn every velocity from 1 thru 6. You don’t need the bootstrap if you have a stiff core pad. V6 or over. I cut mine and it performs better.
My son just moved from Warrior G4 to Vaughan Ventus. We had to switch back to traditional laces for the toe ties. The bungee was tight enough that the toe of his skate could not touch the ice when he needed to push. Traditional laces fixed they but they are a pain in the but for a U12 tendy. I have some other bungees but they have to be tight enough that he won’t step on them. Any thoughts on other things we could try? We tried toe ties a few years ago and I found them too tight as well. They hold the toe of the skate too close to the pad.
So, ideally the bungees aren't extremely tight and are easy to connect when you are looping through the skate. Was there an ability to loosen them so they wouldn't be basically constantly pulling his toe towards the pad?
You want them to pull when the goalie moves from butterfly to no butterfly. But they shouldn't constantly be putting force on the toe.
For different bungee setups I would have to put the bungee through the first hole in the skate and then the middle hole. Then others I would just do the middle hole.
@@HockeyReviews Thanks for your reply. Yes there's a way to lengthen or shorten the bungee. I tried different things through the skate cowling. If I set it so he had full mobility with his feet then it seemed like it would be so loose that he would be stepping on it. We had a game and a practice so I didn't want to risk that. I had read about another person complaining about stepping on them so I thought it wasn't worth the risk. What I like about traditional Toe ties is that I can use a knot to set the length such that he has full mobility and then I can tie that tight to his skate so there's no chance he could step on it. It kinda makes me wonder if we need them at all. We used to wear them the same way on his CCM flex pads when he had those. Anyhow I appreciate your insight. Maybe when we get some free ice we can play around a bit.
I got some rotation problems with my pads, i got the Bauer 2x pro vaper pads and when I go into the butterfly then get back up my pads are kinda crooked and I have tryed loosing the Velcro strap and It helped a little bit but it’s still goes kinda crooked I am wondering if my problem is that I am using a laces toe tie.
You probably have too much slack if any in the laces. Bungee are nice for this as they stretch and then force the pad back to the correct position when you get up.
@@HockeyReviews ok thank you I think I am going to invest in some pro laces
What are your thoughts about a ball hockey goalie using the heel hook on warrior ritual g6 e+? I would need to use it under my shoes and I am wondering if it will break the hook because of the pressure added to it?
I haven't played ball hockey in like 17 year so I can't really say on what to do with that sorry.
I took mine off and I had ankle pain issues. I put them back on but put them in the lundy loop.
That sucks, but thanks for the info. I believe you are the 1st person I have heard of that didn't like taking the bootstrap off.
Hockey Reviews it’s not that I didn’t like it but my right ankle started to hurt really bad. All I could figure was I pushed off with my right ankle bent. It put pressure on my ankle that way. I had major pains after games for a few days.
Somehow my bootstraps support my ankles and reduce the Fatigue.
With the new pads and especially skates, you may or may not need them.
I've played for 30 years, and dont like the new pads and velcro and minimal straps.
So, what it does it hold my skate to my pad so I have a better fit.
I am 5-10. When I first started goalie I got a used pair of Bauer 1s pads small. After a few skates I needed to use the crs boot strap in the lundy loop of my S190 skates to keep my knee on the craddle. I used the boot strap once normally and i was like hell no this is gonna blow my knee apart lol. Now in my sweet 1x pads which are Medium, I use Pro laces through the 1st hole on holders and no boot strap. l
Oh and the 1s pads and 1x I used crs laces, but I went through middle with like 1.5 inchs of toe slack.
I found the crs too long, but I didn't put any slack in them. I ran them through the toe, middle and then back through the Lundy loop so they wouldn't be flopping everywhere.
Are medium Bauer pads big I just ordered and I’m I little worried that I may need to order smalls
@@mattmangiacapre1454 im 5-10 and bauer 1x mediums are perfect fit. they are 34+1ish. ccm/vaughn I use 33+2 to match sizes.
@@mattmangiacapre1454 it's all about your FTK measurement. Bauer has a table that tells you where you should end up for sizing.
Which bungie toe cord would you recommend?
Kenesky are my favourite, especially for the cost.
Can u make a vid on how to remove Brian’s bootstrap
If it is a removable one, just take the strap out of the plastic adjuster and pull the strap through the hole.
Do you know why when I stand with my pads on the thigh rise tilts inward, I strap my pads to my preference and I don’t know why it happens
They are either loose of your knee and hanging, or your stance has your knees bending inwards and your legs are straight. Neither are a bad thing, it's just personal preference
Same issue. My pads want to rotate inward while in my "attack stance" which causes the tops to "hook" each other. I feel if I were to tighten the straps up, then they won't rotate properly outward in the butterfly.
Hey man. Great tips, I have one problem u had. That is where my pad doesn’t rotate back after I go down in the butterfly. I have vaughn v7s and I use a bootstrap. What are some tips for me to fix this? It’s rly annoying me...😭
Try to adjust the tightness of the toe tie and loosen the rest of the pad
Hockey Reviews ok I use laces but when I started using them that’s when I started having issues. I used to use flex toe. Can u send me a link or just the name of what u suggest I use? Either stretchy laces or some kind of elastic?
@@natecohen8491 check out Kenesky's website they sell a solid elastic toe tie. CCM sells the best one at retail stores
Hockey Reviews ok thanks. I’m going to try out the ccm toe ties
Prolaces is what I use. Took away my ankle pain completely
When r u doing your favorite pad ckdeo
So... I actually filmed it already... then my camera died mid filming... so I have to do it again. My plan is to film it tomorrow but honestly my life is pretty hectic now so no promises :(
It’s alright do it whenever u want
Hey man, nice pads and great video. Just thought I'd say the bungie system is still a boot strap :P just a much more elastic one.
I carry my pads by the laces. I tie my pads by the laces.
Passau example shows that boot pretty tight. I don’t know anyone using a boot that right tbh
Plan on selling any of that gear? Lol
I sell stuff once I'm a while, nothing now though
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OP... just because you don't like or use a boot strap doesn't mean others can't still use it however they want. ✌️
Clearly you didn't watch this video... Where I go over how bootstraps are still helpful.