Does Hockey have a white pad problem?

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  • @District5-YT
    @District5-YT  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +158

    What are the best pads you have ever seen? Worst? Weirdest? 🤔 *Side Note: I played goalie once for an end of year practice as a kid. First shot I ever faced was a roughly 70mph (muffin by NHL standards) slap shot to the dome. Couldn't believe how much that hurt lol... You goalies are insane, and I blame any future error in these videos on that shot! 😜

    • @gizmoegamer4487
      @gizmoegamer4487 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Can’t remember her name but there’s a famous woman goalie with bright blue and pink pads and gloves, always thought they were beautiful. As for the nhl, my fav have to be the dark green flurry pads from the minisoda team

    • @mmitnik
      @mmitnik 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      as a Leafs fan I have always loved Potvin's pads and mask.

    • @Actionronnie
      @Actionronnie 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My favorite were Dan Bouchard when he was in Quebec, white with blue borders kind of.
      I think he was the first to use white a year or two before Fuhr did in Edmonton.
      Was Happy when he got traded to Winnipeg for the 1985-86 season, got to keep the pads cause of the same color combo.

    • @chuckb7774
      @chuckb7774 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I had my helmet painted like Hayword's as a little kid, Belfour's helmet was classic too. Totally dig Fleury's throw back Stars setup though. But that's largely nostagia of living in MN and playing goalie during the Jon Casey days.

    • @221522
      @221522 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Meh, you get enough pucks off the mask you forget that it hurts. Jokes aside, the masks have improved greatly in my 25 years of playing goal, with my current mask, as long as I don't turn my head and take it off the ear, it's not a problem.
      Best pads: Roy's and/or Potvin's
      Worst pads: ALL THE STUPID WHITE ONES
      Weirdest pads: The ones with the mesh pattern on them.

  • @Tyreinn
    @Tyreinn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +920

    my real takeaway from this was that, not only does pittsburgh need to give flower a 1 day contract to retire, they have to let him do it in the full yellow pads

    • @Mise22
      @Mise22 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Sorry Flower is ours. ;P

    • @cjwilliams3296
      @cjwilliams3296 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@Mise22You ever been in a storm, Wally?

    • @Mise22
      @Mise22 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@cjwilliams3296 probably not because i don't understand your question

    • @ziggle5000
      @ziggle5000 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Mise22I mean, a real storm? Not a thunderstorm, but a storm of fists raining down on your head. Blasting you in the face. Pummeling you in the stomach. Hitting you in the chest so hard you think your heart's gonna stop. You ever been in a storm like that, Wally?

    • @Mise22
      @Mise22 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ziggle5000 no, why?

  • @BeerLeagueGoalieGodfather
    @BeerLeagueGoalieGodfather 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

    Your next vid should be “Does hockey have a Connor problem?”. Seems like every 3rd player is named Connor.

    • @faunbudweis
      @faunbudweis หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      not that long ago I had like 5 or 6 Ryans on my fantasy team (Getzlaf, Johansen, RNH, OReily, Suter..)

    • @Legoface660
      @Legoface660 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@faunbudweis Ryan and Connor are so common in the NHL

    •  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Legoface660 Ryan Connor!

    • @Legoface660
      @Legoface660 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I looked up that name and there's actually a fictional character named Ryan Connor. There's also a player in some junior league named Conor Ryan

  • @wheelsofmercury
    @wheelsofmercury หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    In my opinion, I love it when goalies have coloured pads. I remember hearing about Roberto Luongo when he played for Vancouver wearing different pad combinations for different jerseys, and I thought that was so cool!

  • @stuckship9059
    @stuckship9059 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +207

    As a goalie myself I think it comes down to confidence. Wearing any pad that makes you feel more confident will make you play significantly better in net. I personally have always liked white pads more than colors. They just feel clean to me. Wearing a black pad would make me feel dirty and lower my confidence in net. Goaltending is a mental game. If I was Fleury and heard my teammates say my pads made me look bigger I would have more confidence and that would likely help my game more than the pads themselves.

    • @FischerPrice74
      @FischerPrice74 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I think the idea of black pads would wreak havoc on me since everything in your peripheral vision would be black down low, twitching as you move.

    • @sabertheglaceon256
      @sabertheglaceon256 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Well like me I like black pads and I feel like if I get a set I play a bit better Only because think I look cooler with them

    • @gsteezy39
      @gsteezy39 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Agreed, I always did all white everything. White mask, white pads, mostly white stick with white tape that I redid religiously.

    • @hissingoose
      @hissingoose 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Been a goalie for 30 years and have had brown, black, multi-coloured, black and white, and white pads.
      Now i buy whatever is cheapest and mostly matches that’s pro-level protection, which is usually white and last years model.
      Brian’s used to send me stuff to try though, which was really nice.

    • @_Victor_1524
      @_Victor_1524 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same goes for colours in other areas of life... 😉

  • @samhatfield7732
    @samhatfield7732 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +369

    The color of the pads only matters to the goaltender. If the goalie thinks his pads give him an edge, then he plays like it gives him an edge. Goaltending, especially at the pro-level, is more psychological than anything. If people around the goalie tell him that his gear makes him look big or small, faster or slower, etc and the goalie believes it, then it affects the way he plays. This also goes to goalies mimicking what they see is successful.

    • @Gixsir
      @Gixsir 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      True unless you can see with eyes then color takes an effect on everything from sports to hunting to war. Don’t be a bozo and deny science

    • @samhatfield7732
      @samhatfield7732 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      @@Gixsir So if the color of goalie gear has a significant effect on goaltending performance, how come it doesn't? The data doesn't support the hypothesis. That's science.

    • @CasuallyCommentingBaseThings
      @CasuallyCommentingBaseThings 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@samhatfield7732bros a weirdo NPC bot

    • @thegulch1780
      @thegulch1780 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When the lower legs, they were discouraging all white goalie gear - they call them "ghosts" and restricted it. The white pads was also in response to the NHL shrinking goalie gear, which fans don't know about - they think players are better scorers
      They started restricting the size jerseys & masks
      And that's why we are now importing elephants that can do ballet from Eastern europe.
      No more Tim Thomas 5 ft 11 Tasmanian devils

    • @Crazyced
      @Crazyced 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@samhatfield7732 Unless you think they are lying to him, if pens player feel it makes him look bigger, so will players from other teams, affecting their mental game. I could totally see white pads appear bigger.

  • @jonathanchin3396
    @jonathanchin3396 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +93

    I started following the NHL 30 years ago and just about all of the top goalies had a distinct, unique look. As a Devils fan, I knew that not only would Martin Brodeur be decked out in Heaton Helites, they'd have graphics reflective of the team.
    Potvin when he was with the Leafs, CuJo with the Oilers and then the Leafs and Belfour with the Stars not only had some of the best pad designs, they were all color-coordinated!
    There's not much of that anymore and while a white set of pads and gear can look awfully sharp, they'll never look as cool when compared to what was worn when I was growing up.

    • @kappawhoo
      @kappawhoo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I feel like this is underrated as well, since hockey wants to keep recruiting the young generation to get into it. The cool pads of the 90s-2000s would be a hit on every social media platform and allow for a potential larger audience base imo.

    • @ronfroehlich4697
      @ronfroehlich4697 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I started watching hockey with as a child in the early 80's and seeing the goalie pads go from brown to colored and cusotomized was awesome

    • @brian451111
      @brian451111 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Was thinking this same thing while watching. I still remember Brodeur’s Heaton Helite III’s, and Potvin’s Heaton Pro 90s and then Koho Revolution set up, and Vanbieser’s Brown gear (made around the corner from me). I couldn’t tell you what any of my favourite goalies are wearing today. I just know it’s boring and white, haha.

    • @dana102083
      @dana102083 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What parents can afford goalie equipment these days lol​ I think thats a big issue. My favourite player was Bure in the 90s and loved CuJo.❤ GO OILERS GOOOOOO!!!!!@kappawhoo

  • @hckyroxs8019
    @hckyroxs8019 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +141

    I read the title of "Does Hockey have a white dad problem?" 🤣🤣🤣
    Aside from that initial confusion, very informative and in depth video.

    • @drmilogreen6346
      @drmilogreen6346 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Every sport has a "white dad" problem lol.

    • @hckyroxs8019
      @hckyroxs8019 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@drmilogreen6346 I mean, you ain’t lying

    • @Seegster77
      @Seegster77 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You two idiots need a room together . To talk about your daddy issues 😂

    • @grabble7605
      @grabble7605 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hckyroxs8019 I'm sorry, I thought this was America! th-cam.com/video/j2zlPNGuPbw/w-d-xo.html

    • @sydisticsandman
      @sydisticsandman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂

  • @mikewebsdale4777
    @mikewebsdale4777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    How big a team do you have producing these videos, there is so much talent in the writing and editing. Great videos as a result!

  • @MuddyTubMedia
    @MuddyTubMedia 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +179

    Goalie pads are the only hockey equipment where the player can be as creative as they want. Love seeing a sick set of custom pads. Wish more goalies would stray away from boring designs

    • @rossrobertson674
      @rossrobertson674 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Yeah no goalies have custom paint jobs on their helmets 😂

    • @MuddyTubMedia
      @MuddyTubMedia 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rossrobertson674 masks*

    • @HotBranch
      @HotBranch 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would counter that, for the pros, flex points, stiffness, strapping, and other (internal) specs are more important than the graphic design. Bauer and CCM have digital printing options and some of the goalies take advantage of that, but Vaughn, True, and Brian's do graphics by stitching. I don't think True even offers custom graphics. The fact that graphics add some extra time to produce, if a goalie is in a hurry for gear (because of a trade or unexpected gear breakdown), stock graphics are faster to produce so they can get official KW sign-off/approval from the league sooner and have their gear a few days faster than for custom graphics.

    • @MuddyTubMedia
      @MuddyTubMedia 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@HotBranch absolutely true that function is more important than the look. When I said custom pads, I didn’t mean the custom graphics (which are very cool), I was thinking more about the colors on the base design. Instead of all white or 95% white, get some color in there like Thatcher’s Blue and Green set, or Flower’s brown set that he used in Chicago

    • @MontclairBoontonLineRailfan
      @MontclairBoontonLineRailfan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Totally agree. Goalies are extremely lucky to have this ability, yet everyone opts to wear plain white Bauer or true pads nowadays. Especially in the NHL and pro leagues, don’t ban white pads, but somehow enforce a change.

  • @kylek29
    @kylek29 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

    As a lifelong goalie and a longtime referee, black pads do get you quicker whistles as it is harder to see -- it's also harder for players (and sometimes yourself) to find loose pucks that may not be completely covered. However, at the NHL level, pro players have mastered their shots so well that in many circumstances they're just shooting from muscle memory and what they can see of the red posts, in that sense, white would make the post easily contrast. We are seeing darker pads make a resurgence across the league.
    Right now, there are quite a few goalies that wear different sets with each uniform, so doing an A/B (same goalie, same team, different color pads) meta analysis might be possible to see if white pads give an advantage once we get enough samples. I do not think it will, you may look bigger, but you are not bigger.

  • @choppergunner8650
    @choppergunner8650 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    The early Panthers goaltenders, Vanbiesbrouck, Fitzpatrick, Burke, Kidd and Luongo (in the 2000s), they all wore very beautiful combinations of colors. But the hat goes off to Felix Potvin. Every team he played with, he had a beautiful pad to show. His NY Islanders looks was simply the best.

    • @randydube1423
      @randydube1423 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      VanB, Burke and Byron Dafoe always had sick pad combos. Then for the mask it was always Ed Belfour for me, especially his San Jose one. THE BEST.

    • @kylefarrell8214
      @kylefarrell8214 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      any setup of potvin

  • @MichaelSainsbury-t3n
    @MichaelSainsbury-t3n 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of intelligent effort.

  • @RIPtybalt
    @RIPtybalt 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +159

    Funny enough, the issue of every Tom, Dick and Harry having pads that are entirely white, mostly white, or white based is the reason I bought myself an entirely all black setup. My pads are completely black eflex 4s, and I had my white mask painted black to match them. Undoubtedly my favourite setup I've had
    **I just wanted to edit this to add that I fell in love with solid coloured pads when Brian Elliott wore his completely blue setup with St. Louis in 2016 and then his entirely red setup in Calgary as well

    • @TMV_Oil_Up_As_You_Promised
      @TMV_Oil_Up_As_You_Promised 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I can just imagine how good it looks

    • @gohabs8918
      @gohabs8918 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It’s like tape. Some people think black hides the puck better. Some think white tape soaks up more water
      It’s honestly just personal preference and hockey players being superstitious

    • @lachlanpryznyk3327
      @lachlanpryznyk3327 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gohabs8918black tape does actually hide the puck better. I have a goalie friend I asked about it and he says it’s harder with black tape

    • @gohabs8918
      @gohabs8918 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@lachlanpryznyk3327 I’m a goalie. It doesn’t

    • @toyotaecw
      @toyotaecw 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Black Pads Matter

  • @JulianCaroline-n8y
    @JulianCaroline-n8y 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It took me too long to realize that the ceiling hadn't been painted to look like the sky.

  • @mmitnik
    @mmitnik 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    As a beer league goalie, I wear custom pads that are Black and Orange. They look amazing and I would never go to white pads as I like having coloured pads. The downside of custom pads are you cant just go into a store and buy them. Most goalie shops I've been to in the GTA sell 90% white pads, with just a few coloured options and a few pure black options. I understand why, as it's easier to sell a single coloured/shaded pad but it is pretty sad. Honestly though I think the biggest issue are companies are selling only white or black goalie masks. There aren't any companies bringing out their own designs and most people can't afford to get them painted afterwards.

    • @lkkjhg45
      @lkkjhg45 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      can you fill in for a game for my team this wednesday at 11pm

    • @ChristopherB2143
      @ChristopherB2143 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lkkjhg45Goaile Up has been pretty active for the gta these last few days.

    • @221522
      @221522 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So true, unless you go custom (and pay way more) it's pretty much white or nothing. It's very annoying, I waited and waited and waited for some all black pads to come in stock at my local store, checking almost every week, eventually my old pads were just so worn out I had to just get a new set, mostly white, not a fan, but I didn't have the money for a custom set.

  • @bemba187
    @bemba187 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Great video. Production and tone were top notch...Made me relive my whole hockey childhood! Keep it up!

  • @ratboy717
    @ratboy717 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you for researching this, great video, been wondering about this for a while!
    Best pads: Keri Lehtonen's pads with the Thrashers, he had some good sets

  • @noahmajors126
    @noahmajors126 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I Love Aidan Hill’s Pad set up so much because it just looks great. Like how the white gloves for away games, and dark gloves for home that Vegas wore for there home jerseys until 2021. It just looks awesome, and if you look good, you play good. Some of the best goalies of all time have had fantastic pad set ups, and I think it’s just a matter of mentality. When Fleury was in Vegas rocking the all gold pads he was unstoppable and it coasted him to a Veznia and deep play off runs. Fleury loves colored pads, and because of that fact when he wears them he rules. If you look at Andrei Vasilevskiy’s pads he’s almost always in all white with blue highlights, and they look pretty sick, and he seems to like his pads, he looks good, and there for he plays good. If you look down the list of the greatest goalies in the NHL right now, all of them have great pad set ups. Hellebuyck, Swayman, Demko, Igor, Logan Thompson, etc. It probably actually dose have something to do with color theory and how it works, but it could equally show that when a goalie likes the pads they wear, and the pads look good, they are gonna play better

  • @grimetone
    @grimetone 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Impressive editing. So much good footage makes the topic interesting.

  • @pb51-d8f
    @pb51-d8f หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When I started playing in the mid60’s, I was told I could have any colored pads I wanted, as long as they were brown.

  • @HotBranch
    @HotBranch 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    While you raise some excellent points, as a goalie with over 40 years between the pipes, there are some issues you might have overlooked. As to declining interest in becoming a goalie, I would say that the cost is the single biggest contributor to declining enrollment for the position. I have a friend whose 2 sons are goalies and during their growing teen years, he had at some points SIX full sets of gear in his house because his boys would grown into and out of their gear so quickly. The next contributing factor in the decline in kids wanting to become goalies is that the current mentality is you have to be 6'2" or more so big, lanky kids get a shot at moving up when a smaller, better goalie might be passed over by coaches who prioritize bigger kids in goal. You raised the point that team practices rarely, if ever, focus on what the goalies need, so to get better, the goalie's parents have to spend money on goalie-specific training, which is yet another obstacle to developing goalies. And let's not ignore the mental toll that the position can take on goalies of all ages, but when dealing with young kids, goals are generally blamed on the goalie so only the most mentally resilient kids will not give up.
    As to the color issue, you missed one point on black vs white tape: for shooters, black tape helps to conceal the puck a fraction of a second longer to make the read a little harder, whereas white tape allows the goalie to see the puck on the blade at all times. For pads, you touched on the point that the NHL is a league where success gets imitated, so the emergence of white (based on scientific advice) became the go-to, and if all- or mostly white gear helps the goalie's confidence, then it is unlikely that the one position where habits/superstition/routine is most dominant is likely to change significantly. Personally, I think masks are the bigger draw to the personality and fascination with goalies, but I developed a fascination and love of the position when it was white masks and brown gear. If dark pads look "slower" and white pads look "faster", then it demonstrates that hockey culture is still predominantly ruled by the "eye test" rather than by actual statistics (regular or advanced), which also explains why taller goalies get drafted rather than shorter goalies--the days of Richter, Vernon, Fuhr, Moog, Irbe, and Vanbiesbrouck (to name only a handful) are basically gone in the NHL. Your snippet from Rask saying how the sticks allow shooters to get so much velocity with minimal effort demonstrates how the NHL allows player gear innovations to advance unfettered, but any advantage a goalie has needs to be dialed back in some way. I get that high scoring games are exciting, but goalie battles can be just as exciting when you actually understand how difficult the game is to play.
    My final thought is on your A/B comparison of Aiden Hill's stats in white versus gold: the home (gold) games featured more shots per game than the road (white) games. What are the possible explanations for the ~10% increase in shot volume? Better defensive system on the road because of last change? Possibly. Opponents for the home games are higher volume shooting teams? Also possible. Color of the pads showing where the openings are? Also very possible. Pad color does not impact the athlete's ability to stop the puck, but using your own A/B comparison, it would seem that the gold pads encourage opponents to take some extra shots because they see a possible opening in Hill's net coverage. That, or the white pads cause the opposition shooters to reconsider shooting if they can't clearly distinguish between the net and pads. Given how accurate NHL shooters are, you can't discount that color (or lack thereof) can impact a player's decision to shoot or pass based on what they see for a few tenths (or hundredths) of a second.

    • @opiewanslightsaber
      @opiewanslightsaber 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Your are dead on with the comment about the "eye test". Most coaches have no clue how to evaluate or coach goalies.

    • @HotBranch
      @HotBranch 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@opiewanslightsaber Thank you for having read through that brain dump.

    • @District5-YT
      @District5-YT  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      The whole point is that (most) kids, (regardless of height, exact age, parents who played, or anything else) like coloured pads more.. Thus are more likely tempted to give them (or the position) a try. Which is needed.
      I mentioned that NHL players have conflicting opinions on stick tape. Some say white hides the release better, some say black. But it's not a fact either way..
      As I said in the video, I realize many players have stated that they do indeed agree with the white pad theory. Whether they do it for mental or statistical reasons, is irrelevant to the question posed.. Goalies won't have a mental breakdown if they have to follow a rule.
      My only point with Adin Hill in white vs. gold, is that he won, in gold.. And Vegas was still getting great results this season, "letting" him use gold.. So clearly, whatever white offers, isn't THAT big a deal. Besides they all wear coloured pads for "special occasions" anyway.
      As such, the video argues sacrificing "not a big deal", for more people to like Hockey, and specifically playing goalie.

    • @mmitnik
      @mmitnik 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      yeah price is a huge when it comes to parents letting their kids play in net. I think Masks and pads are a big draw when done really well. Potvin was the goalie that inspired me to want to play when I was young, but sadly my parents were worried about being blamed if things went wrong and the price being 2 to 3 times more than player gear. I started playing goal in the 2000s when gear became much cheaper since they manufactured them overseas. The down side was the quality sucked and they didn't really last as long. Gear today is much better than the early 2000s, but the price has gone up quite a bit. If you want brand new mid tier gear your spending at least $3000.

    • @HotBranch
      @HotBranch 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@District5-YT I guess times have changed because it used to be the uniqueness of the position and what the goalie could do that attracted kids to the position. Next was the mask, but I guess kids' fascination with the position have changed. I would argue that clever designs that inject color on a white pad are just as interesting to look at (and, by your rationale, draw kids to the position) as solid-colored (or non-white) pads. MAF's yellow pads were nothing special outside of the bright yellow base while Driedger's pads are worth a deeper visual dive.
      I'm not saying one is right or wrong, but if color on pads is what draws kids to try the position, then it's not an NHL issue because the league has shown little more than contempt for the position over the years. Heck, if it IS color that draws them in and that gets smaller kids to the highest levels, then we can get rid of other unwritten rules about who should and shouldn't get a chance at moving up the ranks. But the fact remains that even if color fuels a kid's interest in trying the position, the reality of the cost is the next hurdle to clear and parents aren't always able or willing to make that sacrifice if they are of more modest means.

  • @ZigzwagProps
    @ZigzwagProps 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I remember when this transition happened I was in Minor midget actually looking to get new pads. I saw the premier ii in yellow and wanted them so badly because of Fleury. But my father didn't agree and actually forced me to get black ones, as they were at the time the more prolific colour way. Looking back I still wish I had gone with them over the black ones for the style points for sure.

    • @nofuturestudios
      @nofuturestudios 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I got the yellow ones and it was so fucking worth it

    • @ZigzwagProps
      @ZigzwagProps 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@nofuturestudios I ended up going with the xpulse instead, they were very nice pads but I always hated the catch gloves. I got a set of revokes after that and they really made me regret getting xpulse over premier

  • @CSIS25
    @CSIS25 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Man i think you covered everything on this, really good video, i had to sub !

  • @dylanpedersen124
    @dylanpedersen124 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dude your videos are legit, definitely my favorite hockey vids on TH-cam

  • @brianhildreth9099
    @brianhildreth9099 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    In my highest voice possible.... "it's only hockey, it's only game, why you have to be mad?"

  • @CB-ss9gj
    @CB-ss9gj หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember when I first played against a goalie wearing those Patrick Roy 5-hole pads. At a quick glance it definitely seemed to me that the five hole looked bigger especially if the outer color matched closely the rest of the uniform. I'm no pro, and I don't know whether it affected my play, but I've played a lot of hockey and it was definitely noticed it when I first saw it and I still remember those pads specifically.

  • @ahmeeklegend7393
    @ahmeeklegend7393 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I wore red and black pads when I played youth hockey. I hated the mostly white look.

  • @WantonBaby
    @WantonBaby หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I remember as a kid having a theory that the boxer with nicest boxers was going to win
    Ali vs Evangelista changed my mind

  • @aidanwotherspoon905
    @aidanwotherspoon905 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    “And that kid, was Marc-Andre Fleury… nahh, just kidding” 😅 that fucking sent me!!!😂

  • @teddypeterson8980
    @teddypeterson8980 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a center I can 100000% confirm that the white mini wheats make the five hole look deceivingly large

  • @yoimstewy
    @yoimstewy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Been a fan of Marc-Andre for a long time even when he beat my Red Wings in 09 nothing but respect to one of the greatest.

  • @noisepoIIution
    @noisepoIIution 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This video is so interesting and so well done. Subscribed. Onto the rest of the channel!

  • @michaelfortunato3117
    @michaelfortunato3117 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    as a goalie, I approve. there was more character in the pads and mask designs back in the day. i think the white look is more "clean" looking and the dark look, especially black, is more "heavy" looking.

  • @Baxset
    @Baxset 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    such a good video man keep up the good work

  • @2darktwoC
    @2darktwoC 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This video was so well done! 🔥🙌

  • @EricAdamsYT
    @EricAdamsYT 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "You know who else wears white? Most of the goalies who have had awful seasons." Ha! I like the variety offered by colored pads but I can't fault goalies for looking for any advantage they can get (even if it's not real). They are under immense pressure to always be as close to perfect as possible. Nice video. I subscribed.

  • @georgies1063
    @georgies1063 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is one of the coolest and most interesting videos I’ve seen in a long time. Amazing work my friend!!

  • @SirJaymesDAudelée
    @SirJaymesDAudelée 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    LOL teams used to complain about Patrick Roy’s white pads. They do make it more difficult to discern the five hole, being the ice behind the goalie is white as well. Players have complained about this for quite a while.

  • @WowRixter
    @WowRixter 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    As an old-timer I too enjoy seeing some variety in pads. For me I play in black RBKs pads and blocker/trapper. Shooters aren't snipers and refs are half blind, so any possibility of a quick whistle, as I'm desperately scrambling for the puck, is a good thing 🙄Im surprised that with advancements in tech, that a pad company, making rec-hockey pads, hasn't adopted some hook-&-loop surface in key (non ice-contact areas) where customized colour pieces couldn't be slapped on. If you look at the disk on a circular sander, the stuck on sand paper is not coming off. Pads could be all white but somewhat customizable to match team uniforms

    • @nuynobi
      @nuynobi 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well there are Pad Skinz which is effectively just sheets of coloured tape (made of faux leather pad material) for decorating your gear. That's basically what you're talking about. No need for velcro. I've never used it myself, but I've thought about it.

  • @TylerJohnstonGuitar
    @TylerJohnstonGuitar 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Never got the white pad craze. My high school team’s colors were black and gold, my pads were black and gold. Looked great with the uniforms.

  • @Reallycoolguyyyy
    @Reallycoolguyyyy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This was a really good video man. The cool pads on TV made me think wanna play goalie, and I still want to in beer league one day. Awesome video

  • @MorganCurme
    @MorganCurme 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The true way to render ourselves happy is to love our work and find in it our pleasure.

  • @RegginaldRiglet
    @RegginaldRiglet หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just found your channel. Incredible content.

  • @Woody10719
    @Woody10719 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This brought back a memory of me going into player editor whatever it was and changing flury's pads back to yellow lololololol. I was going to say that there is more colour today than there was in 2008

  • @jamesdiato
    @jamesdiato 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Funny that you uploaded this vid when i recently updated my pads to be more white as well LOL

  • @Madlux14
    @Madlux14 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Awesome video dude. You truly deserve more subs. Heres a sub on your journey to more!

  • @KHoltzie
    @KHoltzie 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I don’t think white pads should be mandatory-I feel like you still gotta let goalies get creative, creativity is cool and it also adds character!

  • @icyedits686
    @icyedits686 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My favourite goalie when I was young was Cam Ward because I always loved his icebergs

  • @kennymik1509
    @kennymik1509 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very very interesting and cool video. Hats off to you for research and presentation. Thank you.

  • @stevencoffey1450
    @stevencoffey1450 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You don't often see a video with more likes than the creator has subs. Here's a new one for ya, good work!

  • @MrHazz0
    @MrHazz0 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hoping you blow up my guy! This was a great video! I was here in the beginning! See you at 170k from 170 lol

  • @BillyMenno
    @BillyMenno 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I grew up watching Felix Potvin and the Leafs in the early and Mid 90's...absolutely loved the blue with the white claw on the bottom.

  • @Biscuits514
    @Biscuits514 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I cant remember the title of that book you showed near the end with your kid in red snow pants story.. but i definitely recognize the illustrations from when i read it as a kid!

  • @eliashenriksson1379
    @eliashenriksson1379 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The best color for a goalie is the color the feel the most confident in

  • @pfeiffjay54
    @pfeiffjay54 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I don’t know how goalies don’t want colored pads. That’s all I’ve wanted since I started playing the position

    • @JaValeJustin
      @JaValeJustin 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I remember back in the day it was a big thing that fleury finally came into his own once he ditched the bright yellow pads he started off with in Pittsburgh. I always loved the gear marc came into the league with but it made sense how it made the holes in your positioning more visible

    • @tommywd40
      @tommywd40 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      when you play for multiple teams, its just easier.
      I think silver or tan would work just as well as white though.

    • @FUGP72
      @FUGP72 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Because they are ACTUALLY good players and know their SKILL is what people are coming for. It you are so simple minded to think "Oooh, pretty colors", then you are not only NOT an athlete, but also someone they don't even give a fuck to have a a fan.

    • @pfeiffjay54
      @pfeiffjay54 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@FUGP72 just a fun personal thing to have custom colored pads lol nothing about being skilled or not

    • @impulse_xs
      @impulse_xs 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is the real answer. All white is the only color that works with basically any teams colors and uniforms. Even all black can look bad against navy blue or brown pants.

  • @stevenseibel9216
    @stevenseibel9216 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    yeah true pads haven't looked as good in recent years huge issue for goalies who all appreciate. miss the old days

  • @noteriknagy
    @noteriknagy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Loved watching this , keep
    up the good work

  • @chacardi
    @chacardi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    man this was such a good video, easiest subscribe in a while! keep it up mate!

  • @jetpackercod
    @jetpackercod 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love the videos man, keep up the good work!

  • @farmerlalande
    @farmerlalande 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm surprise no goalie tried something crazy like crease blue at the bottom, red stripe in the middle and white at the top to "camouflage" the pads in the crease

  • @KHoltzie
    @KHoltzie 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I used to like Marty Gerber’s ‘all black’ look in Ottawa! 👌🏻

  • @v1__rotate
    @v1__rotate 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I don't like white pads, but I don't think banning them is the answer. I just wish more goalies would use colors. Scott Wedgewood always had great pads and I was really sad to see him go mostly white this season

  • @nbarealtalker
    @nbarealtalker 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Felix Potvin had some of the coolest pads back in the late 90s 🙌

    • @johntitorii6676
      @johntitorii6676 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yup they did stand out he was good in Vancouver

  • @TheGreatChrisB
    @TheGreatChrisB 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Player in one of the college and men's leagues by me got custom bright highlighter yellow pads and said it distracted players. He had a 97% save rate across 2000 shots, so it seemed to work. I can say that scorekeeping and watching the games, it was distracting.
    Another kid had red pads that matched the bars, and he said it made players nervous about whether they were shooting close to the bars or right at his pads. He was also a great goalie.

  • @Nikitamc88
    @Nikitamc88 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What a well made video ! I absolutely love when goalies wear colours.. My favourite colours would be anything with a lot of RED. Carey price with his all red setup was beautiful. Fleury's yellow pads get a strong honourable mention as well as Huet's red and blue P2s and both of Potvin's black and blue KOHO sets.
    P.S I hated the checkered stuff. They look awful in my opinion :)

  • @ABetcetera
    @ABetcetera 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    INTSA SUB, love the quality

  • @Skoden74
    @Skoden74 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There's push and pull to both black/coloured or white equipment. At the end of the day it all comes down to preference as to which a goalie uses. Just as an example, I have black pads for the early whistles, but white gloves to make them look bigger.

  • @johnawrey5582
    @johnawrey5582 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Patrick Roy absolutely was using his pads to bait shooters to go five hole. They were used in conjunction with his "post to post" technique and it changed the game

  • @AtodaO
    @AtodaO หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a youth goalie from mite to highschool, it's expensive AF and each team plays 1 goalie in every game.

  • @jonnyharris2612
    @jonnyharris2612 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    well done District 5 ! Great vid.

  • @41Nizmo
    @41Nizmo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I refuse to own pads/gloves without some form of color/design that covers at least 50% of the surface. The most ironic part of the NHL goalies lack of personality in their gear now, is that their helmets have gone too far in the other direction, and are an unintelligible mess of overly detailed air brushing that no one can tell what the painting is of.

    • @thebigpicture2032
      @thebigpicture2032 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed! Put the colour complexity in the pads, go with a white mask simple design

  • @the-line-of-eld
    @the-line-of-eld 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video brother! Loved the background track too!

  • @richardburns1698
    @richardburns1698 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video. As a long time Kings fan, I appreciate that flash of Robb Staubers four kings pillows.

  • @tntfreddan3138
    @tntfreddan3138 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember when even goalkeepers in football would have bright and flashy, almost reflective, gear. I played in a bright pink shirt with black shorts and black socks. Bright colors draw attention. This means that even an attacker might look at you instead of where he initially wanted to shoot, and miss or just shoot right at you instead.

  • @vrasz9114
    @vrasz9114 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I hadn't noticed the league shift towards all white pads until it was pointed out to me, but now that it has been I realize how much I miss the fun colourful pads. Philipp Dietl's pads this year in the 2024 world juniors for team Germany were amazing and I want to see more outstanding designs like that in the NHL!

  • @AstroMaxwell
    @AstroMaxwell หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    love how they showed smith at 12:13

  • @ydorb7180
    @ydorb7180 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    you need to post more vids, there so good!!!!!

  • @cjwilliams3296
    @cjwilliams3296 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Subbed. Need more hockey content!

  • @Schneebly743
    @Schneebly743 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When I wore black pads, I definitely lost the puck during plays in tight. Swapped to white and the problem went away.

    • @johntitorii6676
      @johntitorii6676 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So my 200 IQ serves me correctly , or common sense

  • @patrickkanas3874
    @patrickkanas3874 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I do admit that, on your tv, white pads do look larger. Of course, I don't know how it looks to a player on the ice

  • @rinforthewin-ks1vk
    @rinforthewin-ks1vk 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video. You earned a new subscriber here!

  • @v4v819
    @v4v819 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Those Checkers pad were lit back in the day... Those flames from the dragon back in his Calgary days was where i became a fan! I wish he was as effective as he was fun to watch!

  • @mohedaicebear
    @mohedaicebear 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this is amamzing video and probably the best endorsement of "look good, play good"

  • @moneybuth
    @moneybuth 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I feel like yellow pads are smart because you can see the puck easily and it would be easier to make calls. It also kind of blends in with the ice at the same time for shooters so you can’t really see the outline. I feel like I would also be blinded shooting up close against yellow pads

  • @WindyCityHawkey
    @WindyCityHawkey 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    White pads sucks they take personalized look out of it. When Corey Crawford switched from white pads to black pads the Black pads looked so much nicer with the Blackhawks uniform. I'm glad Mrazek wears black at home with the Blackhawks and he has his better number at home in the black pads than his road white pads.

  • @germanpancake88
    @germanpancake88 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    very well made and researched video, great content! Keep it up man!

  • @eliskakrizova9286
    @eliskakrizova9286 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This guy truly deserves subscribe

  • @ktcottrell
    @ktcottrell 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I grew up playing goalie when Fleury was wearing yellow pads. My first real set of gear was a mix of black, white and silver Reebok Premier Series 1. My pads and blocker were black/white/silver but my glove was white/black/silver. I thought I was so cool. But I got new gear in maybe 2007 or 2008 and at first, I wanted the black CCM Vector set, but once I realized everyone had them, I decided I needed an all-white set. I ended up getting all white Reebok Premier Series 2 glove and blocker and white/white/silver pads (I should've gone with the white/white/black, but that's a story for another day). I think all the NHL goalies at the time were going to white, so I just decided I had to have white. A few years later when Revoke came out, I really wanted an all-white set, but I quit hockey before I ever got new pads again. I'm always thinking what pads I would wear if I was playing now, and the last 6 or 7 years I've thought I'd probably go full color mode like Brian Elliott.

  • @dafangjia
    @dafangjia 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video.
    I always felt goalies looked more competent in white pads. They intimidate the shooter more.

  • @LaceyArtemis
    @LaceyArtemis 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Trevor Kidd is single handedly responsible for 1) my getting into hockey over any other sport 2) becoming a lifelong goalie fan 3) playing goalie when I played briefly as a kid, and more. His pads were unlike anything else in the league, not only the flame pattern but the yellow, and then he outdid himself in Carolina. Shame he wasn't actually a better goalie.
    I have never understood why more goalies didn't use Brian's pads, I would have killed to wear totally custom pads. The plain solid colours are just so boring. What's better than a 5 bell save? A 5 bell save with cool looking gear. Gonna miss flower stealing the show with his moves and his gear. Bless Aden Hill for keeping the spirit alive. Maybe there will be a resurgence eventually.

  • @BBonez24
    @BBonez24 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Don’t know much about Hockey but I know Baseball puts restrictions on what pitchers can wear to avoid it blending in with the ball

  • @billcook4768
    @billcook4768 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Side note: I was a huge Martin Brodeur fan. Saw a million of his games. While watching this video, I was racking my brain but couldn’t remember what his pads ever looked like.

  • @SamnissArandeen
    @SamnissArandeen 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    And yet, I haven't seen a goalie try disruptively-patterned pads that make movement harder to discern.

  • @BadEnergyJohn
    @BadEnergyJohn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    482 subscribers? You about to blow up, son!

  • @chrismckay8584
    @chrismckay8584 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember seeing or hearing about a coloured pad problem before now it’s white I started off wearing black and red then red and grey I didn’t want my gear covered in puck marks cause I knew I would have them for awhile now kids stain their pads then buy a new set

  • @anthonyriche552
    @anthonyriche552 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So glad you covered this. Goalies, more than anyone else, seem to follow trends. They went from masks to birdcages to the hybrids they all wear now. They wore the all-brown pads for decades until Billy Smith started wearing colored ones and soon all-brown pads were gone. I feel like this is another trend however I could see how white or all-white could cause some difficulty spotting five hole openings. Btw, did Roy really handle the puck all the way to center ice in a real game?? That's just wild!

    • @gage2040
      @gage2040 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, he also got pissed when play was blown down when he crossed centre ice. I guess he didn’t know it was a rule. Quite funny

    • @anthonyriche552
      @anthonyriche552 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gage2040 Really?? Classic Roy. I didn't know there was a rule against that either. He got quite the welcome back in Montreal tonight.

    • @gage2040
      @gage2040 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@anthonyriche552 yes he did, thankful we beat him in the return tho.

    • @impulse_xs
      @impulse_xs 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The evolution of masks isn’t goalies blindly “following trends”. It’s the evolution of safety equipment and masks becoming more protective.

  • @HP-qr4sn
    @HP-qr4sn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jonas Hillers matte pads are some of the cleanest equipment in nhl goalie history

    • @Scoots_McGee
      @Scoots_McGee 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah he looked good in the crease for Anaheim/Calgary. Too bad his best years were in anaheim, he regressed hard when he came to CGY

  • @alanvanasch4793
    @alanvanasch4793 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Freddy Andersen wore black pads with the Canes stadium series uniforms and occasionally at other times throughout the season. He already wears pretty small pads for his size but I couldn't help but think he did look at lot smaller, no matter how good they looked

  • @ibeleaf
    @ibeleaf 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    felix potvin had the coolest livery of all goalies. fight me