Washington and Oregon Compared
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Mr. Beat compares and contrasts Washington state and Oregon.
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Washington and Oregon
Both of the bordering states in these United States like to talk a lot of trash about each other, but they have a lot in common
Both began as part of Oregon Territory, established by the United States in 1848 after originally being inhabited by Native Americans, the Russians, a even the British for a bit.
Both border the Pacific Ocean and are in the infamous Ring of Fire, an area where lots of earthquakes and volcanic eruptions tend to occur. Both are geographically diverse.
And yep, both have similar climates. West of the Cascades, the mountain range that runs north-south through both of the states, gets a lot of rain and the temperature is more moderate, whereas east of the Cascades is much drier with varied temperatures. That’s why you’ll get a picture like this, where you’re in the rainforest, and then drive east five hours and get a picture like this, where you’re basically in the freaking desert.
Both are known for wine.
Some of the best wine in the world is produced from the grapes grown in the Willamette Valley in Oregon and the Yakima Valley, Walla Walla Valley, and Tri-Cities region of Washington. Speaking of alcohol, both states have a ton of craft beer breweries, although Oregon has more per capita than Washington.
Both states have a similar poverty rate and similar income levels, although Washington citizens definitely earn more, on average.
The cost of living is similar in both states, overall, which is higher than most of the rest of the country.
Both states’ biggest industries are healthcare, retail, and manufacturing, in that order, but you can’t mention the two states without their lumber production. They’ve got mad forests, there, I’m telling you.
A lot of people in both Oregon and Washington have lighter skin. Only 4% in Washington and 2% in Oregon consider themselves African American.
Around ⅕ of Oregon residents and Washington residents can trace their ancestry to Germany. Many of the earliest residents of European ancestry of both states came via the Oregon Trail, from the Midwest.
Marijuana is legal in both states, although the laws that regulate it are less strict in Oregon.
Both states lean to the left politically, and typically vote Democratic. Although the Cascades split both states politically, as east of them people tend to be more conservative.
Both states are not that religious. Less residents belong to churches in Oregon and Washington than nearly all other states.
Both border a foreign country. Washington borders Canada to the north and Oregon borders California to the south. Wait a sec...apparently California is also part of the United States. Scratch that, I’m sorry.
So what about their differences? I mean, there are a lot of differences when you nitpick, like the fact that Washington produces much more apples than any other state and Oregon produces more hazelnuts than any other state, but in general terms, there are few major differences.
Washington has a lot bigger population, despite being ⅔ the size of Oregon. Washington has around 7.3 million people, and Oregon just 4.1 million. So that’s why Washington gets 12 votes in the Electoral College and Oregon gets just 7. Washington’s population is also growing more quickly than Oregon’s.
Washington residents are smarter than Oregon residents. Ok, I joke here, obviously. However, more than 41% of Washington residents have a college degree, whereas just under 38% of Oregon residents have one.
Washington doesn’t have an income tax, Oregon has one of the highest income tax rates in the country. That’s quite misleading though, as Washington residents pay some of the highest sales tax rates in the country while Oregon residents pay some of the lowest.
Which two cities should I compare and why?
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I'm pretty sure Oregon has no sales tax, not just "low sales taxes."
You beat me to it, yeah, we got no sales tax ("coincidentally" we often have teachers working for free and shortened school years. Oh Oregon)
If there is sales tax, I didn't vote for it.
A lot of people end up working in Washington and buying things in Oregon to take advantage of it.
Dave, it ain't get any "lower" than zero. ;)
Well Mr. Beat, you could have a negative sales tax where the state incentivizes you to spend on consumer goods. That would be a bit silly though, because in a capitalistic society, corporations would just up the price of goods to what the market would bear, and taxpayers would foot the bill.
“Where is all my Washington and Oregon viewers at.” Well Washington and Oregon
True
I live in Washington
I visited these states, they're definitely the new NH when it comes to mountains
Here! My stomping grounds. Seattle.
Helix, Oregon
I live in Oregon
I live in Washington state, used to live in Portland; I've never gotten the feeling that one or the other was better or worse or disliked their neighbor; in fact - it's the opposite. We're bordered by the mighty Columbia so as Frost said: "good fences make good neighbors".
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Now Portland/Seattle - well...
Seattle so much better than Portland
@@DKMetcaIf opinion
in a poll the populations of both states say that the state they like most is each other
Yes, that's mostly because both states get to be not California. At least we can flush our toilets.
@@DKMetcaIf x to doubt. Grew up in tacoma spent a bit of time up in Seattle and few trips to Portland and I moved to Wisconsin said fuck this and now I'm outside portland and it's so much chiller than Seattle. I feel safer too but anywhere is better than tacoma and Wisconsin
3:56 that’s why you work in Washington and go shopping in Oregon lol
Same on the east coast - you live in Vermont but go shopping in New Hampshire…
Oregon has No sales tax. Washington has No income tax. Vancouver WA is right across the Columbia river from Portland OR. Guess where a lot of Vancouverites do their shopping?
Douglas Canoose 😂👌😝
@@anastasiasiamour2609 Yes, Anastasia, that's how we feel about it.
Then behold, traffic.
At IKEA! ; )
Yuuuuup
I am from Kentucky, and I have spent time in Oregon and Washington and they both are 1,000 times better than Kentucky
why don't you move up there?
@@Bruh-ty5ql it’s pretty expensive up here, that’s probably why
@@patrick.3 yes but you also earn higher wages. it averages out
I know right! Wasted my entire life in shitty red states I currently live in Washington, an amazing blue state! Great education and healthcare! The South sucks!
Shut up Kentucky is lovely
Oregon also started dutch bros a coffee chain,fred myer basically kroger,burgerville a fast food chain,Tillamook cheese which is of course a cheese and dairy company that has now gotten to the east coast,and some companies have headquarters in oregon too
Tillamook is so good!
Dutch Bros is great.
And Washington started Amazon, Microsoft, Starbucks, Boeing just to name a few.
I have to check Dutch bros out
In the Comments:
95% - triggered Oregonians
5% - “but we have Dutch Bros”
California has good coffe- DUTCH BROS BI***
Yaaaaa Oregon
Oregon Gang?
I see 0 upset Oregonians but go off
@@raindrop2417 ..Looks at comments - but Oregon has this, Oregon has that. I’ll go off lol
Definitely the most underrated states, but easily two of the best. Greetings from your Cascadian neighbour up north in BC.
I'm in BC too. I personally like Washington better but Oregon is still nice
I am a 5th generation Oregonian. Love Oregon lived in Washington for many years, But if I could I would live in BC, Cleaner, friendlier, and truth be said, I am tired of the politics like the Proud Boys and Antifa. And Trump is the first president I actually hate and am disgusted with the whole Bully shit this country has became. And yes I did serve my country in Vietnam and was proud to do so at the time. But we are going too far in the wrong direction. I could get lost in the Forest of BC and not regret it.
I think Oregon is better. I see more racists and close minded country folk in Washington. Also their sales taxes are annoying.
Thanks for the kind words. When I'm outside WA I proudly tell people we're very much like an extension of BC.
PSA for any Canadians visiting Oregon or Washington for the first time: I get really annoyed when people appear to not know what they are doing on the road (I get it, we live in 2 different countries but at least learn the difference between miles and kilometers). Sorry, rant over. Have a great rest of your day or night or whatever
That wasnt a PNW log truck. We have trees, not toothpicks.
😂😂😂
A little insulting considering the fact that Washington is the Evergreen State and Oregon has got redwood behemoths.
Gobi have you seen our trees, we don’t have Christmas trees, our trees are about a hundred or so feet at most, old growth trees are some of the biggest in the world
@Comrade Clyde hell yeah! 💚💙
@Comrade Clyde facts
I'm from Washington and you did well man. Oregon has no sale tax though. Love going down and seeing my Portland folks too. Love the PNW
You forgot to say that Spain owned the Oregon Terrritory as far as the 54'30" North parallel (Alaska) and ceded its claims to the Oregon Country to US when the frontier with New Spain (México) was established at the 42n Parallel , so Oregon Country originally was part of New Spain until Spain ceded its claims to the territory in favor of US by the Adams-Onís Treaty of 1819.
it really wasn't as spain had no control over the reigon
Oregon was never part of Spain. Spain just had weak claims and Russia also had weak claims
I've lived back and forth between both my whole life. They are actually quite different.
Mostly when you compare WA and OR you are comparing Seattle and Portland.
- People in Portland are much more friendly and it's easier to make friends there, although hardly anyone is from there anymore and it's becoming painfully self-aware.
- There is a lot more action and nightlife in Seattle but the people are notably cold and it is notoriously difficult to make friends there (look up "Seattle Freeze", there is an entire Wikipedia article dedicated to this notion).
- Seattle is wayyyyyyyy more expensive and you will absolutely notice it if you visit both.
- No question, the food is much better in Portland and there are endlessly more options and variety.
- The city parks are much better in Seattle. Nature parks in Portland are all on the perimeters of the city, while in Seattle they are scattered intermittently throughout.
- Sailing and other maritime activities are indisputably better in Seattle. It is very nautical, right on the Puget Sound. There are large inhabited islands everywhere that you can take ferries to. Portland is not nautical but has one main river with a ton of beautiful and unique bridges over it.
- Traffic is equally bad in both - in Seattle because the freeway has like seven lanes but there are SO many people, and in Portland because there are too many people and the freeway often has only three lanes.
- Both are being gentrified and giant apartment buildings/condos that all look exactly the same are going up everywhere. Especially in Portland they are replacing areas that actually contributed culture like many food truck pods and the goat blocks.
- Both are notorious for heavy annual rainfall. Seattle gets a little more rain, but Portland has more overcast grey days. In Seattle the sky is bigger, probably due to the hills, so there always seems to be a break in the grey somewhere in the distance. In Portland, when the overcast is here, it's much more all-encompassing.
- Seattle is very hilly all over the place, you will have trouble riding your bike around many areas. Portland is in a valley and is a lot flatter.
- Oregon beaches are infinitely nicer and more beautiful, but WA has the better forests.
- Seattle is obsessed with the Seahawks and Portland is obsessed with the Blazers, but the Seahawks obsession in Seattle is much more fanatic and omnipresent.
- Population density is much higher in Seattle. Upon driving to Seattle after a day in Portland it will feel like there are people everywhere.
- Seattle is much more diverse than Portland, although both are very white. Portland is the whitest major city in the US. Seattle has a large asian population.
- People are wealthier in Seattle as their market is absolutely dominated by tech industries. Portland is more middle class and is not dominated by any single industry.
- Portland is generally about 5-10 degrees warmer at any given time.
- Seattle feels like a big city. Portland feels more like a large small town.
Seattle also exports some great music
This whole comment take it as true cause it is! Good job!
lol: Wrong about the rainfall, I'm afraid. Portland averages 43.5 inches a year to Seattle's 37.7: numbers that are comparable to St. Louis (41) and Chicago (36.9) but NOWHERE NEAR New Orleans (62.7). Really, both cities LOOK like it's going to rain far more than it actually does, especially from October to April. Compare to Forks, WA, which averages 121 inches per year.
This is great information. The only comment I have is that I visited the Seattle area about 15 year ago for about a week when one of my nieces graduated from college in Tacoma. The traffic in Seattle was the worst I've even encountered and I've driven in every large city in the west. It was worse than southern California, Phoenix, Albuquerque, the Wasatch Front in Utah, Boise, Las Vegas and even San Francisco. I've lived in remote rural areas most of my life so comparing cities from state to state isn't really relevant to me.
I'm for the Green Bay Packers and whoever happens to be playing Dallas and Seattle. The latter due to Pete Carroll, who seems to be disliked by everyone outside of Washington. This mainly for how he recruited at USC. That university had been violating nearly every NCAA rule for years, but Carroll upped the ante. When he got caught, he just left the place in a mess and took big money to go pro. He never had to pay a price for it and even people who dislike USC dislike Carroll for it.
I'm from Portland, I've been Seattle in about 20 years so I don't know but Portland is notorious now for one thing; Junkies...
I can't walk a block without seeing a orange fucking needle cap. They're everywhere. I thought about starting up a business and collecting them and reselling them back to the pharmaceutical companies I might make a fortune...
I’m from Oregon and you got just about everything right except that Oregon has zero sales tax
Well, in his defense there are cities, like mine, Ashland, where there are city-imposed sales taxes so its not exactly correct to say we have 'Zero sales tax' we have zero state sales tax.
There is a luxury tax that you pay when you buy a new car.
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Tillamook is here in hu,Tx
@@via3903 California sucks!!
Originally from California, I have been a Washington resident for over 10 years now and I love it. Several years ago, I also lived in Oregon and loved it as well. And additionally, I have lived in Idaho And I loved it. I guess you can say that I love the Pacific Northwest. And will most likely live here the rest of my life.♥️♥️♥️
California is a foreign country? I believe it and I live here 😂😂😅 someone please get me out of here. Lol
California is more Mexico than any other. So yes not foreign
When he said “perhaps the border that exists between you two, won’t have to exist.” I hope he knows that there is a river that separates us and acts as a natural border
a huge one too
true
Many mighty rivers flow through some states without dividing them into separate states (not just in the US but also in many other countries).
@@samyakhp4353 yeah, but this one is actually the border. not just the middle of one of the states
@@Shadow_Drip what I meant to say is that, the narrator probably meant that two states won't have to exist as separate entities(not about the existence of the river).
I'm from Oregon. I'm impressed by the accuracy and in-depth research you did! I'm from OR, but very familiar with Washington. I've hiked hundreds of miles in both states, but tend to hike in Washington more.
Just some facts I know:
-Both states love their public lands and love outdoor recreation-especially hiking. Unfortunately, WA has less public land.
-We're super green and environmentally friendly.
-Both OR and WA used to claim the tallest trees in the world, with some as high as 460 feet tall (approx. 100 feet taller than the redwoods.) But all of those douglas firs were the first to be logged in the 1800s as they were located in river bottoms closest to development. (They were located at the base of the mountains, and were thus the first to be encountered.)
Washington:
1. Not only does it have the highest mountain of both states, but it has the second highest too-Mt. Adams, which is about 900 feet taller than Mt Hood. (2nd between both states, as California has the true 2nd tallest Cascade range volcano.) Washington, from the mountains around Mount Rainier, from Snoqualmie Pass/I-90 to Canada (region called the "North Cascades"), and the Olympic Mountains all are more rugged than any mountainous area in Oregon aside from the Wallowas in NE Oregon. The Wallowas are similar in terms of "ruggedness."
1A. Note that although Rainier is taller, Mt. Adams is bigger in volume. Adams is much, much bigger than Mt. Hood, as well. It is also the 2nd largest in the Cascades, succeeding after Mt Shasta in northern California.
2. has the most rugged mountains in the lower 48. The North Cascades is the most rugged mountain range in the lower 48 states. More rugged than both the Rockies and the Californian Sierras! (According to a scientific study measuring ruggedness/elevation changes.)
3. boasts the longest stretch of wilderness coastline. Yes, we here in Oregon have public beaches, but none of ours are wilderness/undeveloped for as long of a stretch.
4. The Channeled Scablands in the east side, which is basically all mini-canyons, exposed bedrock, potholes, and coulees. It was all carved out by the Missoula Ice Floods-the largest flood in world history. All that sediment washed down into Oregon's Willamette Valley.
5. Washington has the most glaciers in the lower 48. FAR more than Oregon's, which pales in comparison. Something like 500 to 50.
6. Washington has *more national parks* than Oregon. 3 parks: Olympic, Mt Rainier, and North Cascades, compared to one in Oregon-Crater Lake NP.
7. Arguably, Washington has the prettiest city skyline in the U.S.-Seattle. Its skyline is the most varied, framed by Rainier, the Space Needle, and North Cascades on the east; and the Puget Sound (ocean inlet) and the Olympic Mountains to the west. Bear in mind I'm from Portland and never lived in Washington.
8. Tallest waterfall in the US, outside of Hawaii. Some of the tallest, over 2,000 feet high, are located in the North Cascades. Yes, even taller than Yosemite Falls in California (often "claimed" to be the tallest). Also, much taller than Multnomah Falls in Oregon, sometimes "claimed" to be the second tallest in the contiguous U.S. (not even close, as it is approx. 600 feet and several in WA are close to 3,000 feet tall.).
9. Washington has the most acreage of protected wilderness, although less in number. Read: bigger wilderness areas (See OR #9).
Oregon:
1. Has more volcanoes than Washington. In fact, Oregon has the most in the US outside of Alaska. It also has some of the biggest lava flows. While Washington's Cascades are so rugged and steep, Oregon's Cascades (New "High" Cascades) are very flat-ish and volcanic.
2. Oregon's big city, Portland, is much greener than Seattle, in terms of green space and trees. Much more trees in Portland. Its largest park, a nature park in the middle of downtown-named Forest Park, is over 6,000 acres in size! That is 6k acres of pure natural forests and miles of trails.
3. Lightrail: Portland also has one of the best (and most successful) lightrail systems in America-the MAX lines. You can get to any corner of the city (and surrounding metropolitan area) with the MAX tram lines.
4. Streetcar: PDX also is cited in other cities as one of the best textbook examples of streetcar implementation.
5. Crater Lake, is one of the deepest lakes in the world.
6. Most rugged desert. While WA claims the most rugged mountains, OR has the most rugged desert/"eastern half" out of the two states. It has deeper canyons, including the rugged Owyhee Canyonlands.
7. Deepest canyon in the U.S.-Hell's Canyon. Deeper than the Grand Canyon! The depth of the canyon is around 9,000 feet deep.
8. Oregon's Cascades are primarily consisted of black-colored basalt rock, whereas Washington's Cascades, north of Mt. Rainier, has mostly white/grey granite.
9. Oregon has the most protected wilderness areas, although less in size (See WA #9).
Imo, both states are wonderful. I don't really have a favorite, although I have a small bias towards Washington because of its ""grander" scenery. But my home and "home-y" feel has always been in Oregon.
I loved reading this. Thanks for sharing!
As an Oregonian, this was a delightful read
At 4:08 oregon has no sales tax at all, forget about low!!!
Although I have never called it Devil's Canyon, always has been Hell's Canyon.
Washington State is/was home to the best railroad grade over the Cascade Mountains as well (not counting the Columbia River Gorge). It now goes by the John Wayne / Iron Horse trail.
2:19 Born in Oregon, and I'm about a third German. Also Germany's geography is similar to Oregon's, and Oregon has NO sales tax at all
Oregon: No sales tax but high income tax
Washington: UNO Reverse Card
The way he pronounced Rainer made my Washington born and raised heart...just...break
Nayla A Mood. It actually hurt to here it.
Why did it offend me so much when he said it wrong😂😂
same
Ray near. Ya think?
I think he pronounced Rainier correctly. But what do I know? I grew up near the Ozark mountains in Missouri. Those mountains don't hold a candle to Mount Rainier, Mount Baker or Mount Hood.
One thing is Oregon started the Dutch bros coffee Business.
Horizonshot hell yes
Nothing beats Bigfoot Java and that's only avabile in Western Washington
Dutch Bros is the best
You can’t go to Dutch bros without an employee treating you like you’ve just walked into your therapist appointment
We also started hydro flasks
I live in Washington but do wish we had more public land. There is a lot of vacant land in WA that is all private unfortunately.
Born and raised Washingtonian here this is exactly my problem!!! All the good land too!!! Either make some of it public or Atleast have it broken up and I wish the locals got any type of love when it comes to property
Being an Oregonian, I like the Borders were they are. :>)
From Washington and I agree
How the hell did you forget BOEING on Washingtons list of major businesses???!
Or how he forgot intel, Daimler (Mercedes, freightliner,) techtronics industries, adidas or how boeing is in Oregon.
And he left out Columbia for Oregon
boing moved headquarters to chicago.
Boeing is in more than just Washington and Oregon
They moved to Chicago
Oregon has Tillamook Cheese and Ice Cream, which I think should be included with Nike... But overall nice review! 😎
& Columbia & Adidas!!!
Ahem, Intel. Plus the rest of Silicon Forest with a shout out to my neck of the woods, Lam Research. Wild West of electroplating ya'll!!
Saying Tillamook cheese is like including chateau ste Michelle. Boeing or warehouser wasn’t included either. Be happy with Nike lol.
I thought Washington had plenty Nike stores in Washington's outlet malls.
Russell Bob Nike's headquarters is in Beaverton, Oregon...
I’m from BC (🇨🇦) and I’m all for a new country with these two. Cascadia! 🇸🇱
Oregonian here, and agreed!!
Sierra leone 🇸🇱
@Uh Hatchet ik
Tbh it would work....the whole pacific nw just has its own vibe...you can stretch it from Alaska down to the California redwoods around Eureka
@@nomaderic yeah but Idaho has to be left out. They're PNW but broken.
Might be worth mentioning the two states were originally combined. I loved your CA border with OR joke - hillarious!
When he pronounced "Willamette" correctly my heart got warm
But then he pronounced Rainier weirdly
Willamette dammit
The "correct" pronunciation sounds so fucking ugly and incorrect. It's a French word. It sounds so much nicer with the emphasis on the last syllable. But I will admit that I am biased, as I come from the South, where the more French pronunciation will always prevail.
And he said Yakima right!!
@@purpleduracell how does one pronounce Yakima incorrectly?
Oregon also has the last blockbuster 🤷🏼♀️
Bend OR
From Texas, I wanna go there sometime
Washington smarter then Oregon
@@DKMetcaIf than*
@@gabysmith3728 then*
I live in Kentucky. Both Washington and Oregon sound like Heaven to me.
trust me its not
@@Ari-iq6uj Why would I trust some random person on a TH-cam comment thread?
@@raydavison4288 i live in oregon and go to washington a lot but its okay you dont have to trust me. and is kentucky THAT bad
Yeah, Kentucky is bad. My boyfriend's family lives in the south and visiting them is awful. Wish they could visit us here in Washington but they refuse. Probably scared they'll realise how terrible the south is once they venture out of it.
Kentucky is a welfare state.... Louisiana doesn't fare any better ...states in deep shit
actually, we dont have a sales tax in oregon
Oregon actually has 0 sales tax.
But a lot more income tax
that's what I said
ITS ME AUSTIN
And Washington has one the highest sales tax.
Not true! Go buy a monster drink and ask for a receipt
@@alby1320 that's not a tax
Washington has the one city that no one knows where it is...
Vancouver..... like in Canada?
No in Washington.... like Washington DC?
Yeah sure, go there...
It's our cloaking device.
LOL i live in Vancouver WA
@profd65 yes it keeps the idiots who are bad at geography away
You made my aunt Diane sad
Im from Washington... "oh i love dc"
No like vancouver... "oh canada is nice"
Fine its near portland... "oh i hear maine is great"
FINE IM FROM SEATTLE JESUS CHRIST!!!!
I haven't been in Washington for 11 years... and I miss living there a lot!
But in approximately in 6 years I'll return... I hope not to be considered/feel like an outsider.
LETS GO YAKIMA VALLEY!! (except the meth-heads)
Kiona, kiona... rah, rah, rah. Chortle.
damn just knowing what you're talking about is funny
Oregon has the best gas filling attendants 😎
I was just wondering when someone was going to chime in with that. LOL
Only gas filling attendants. Oregon and New Jersey are the only two states that prohibit self-serve.
I was waiting for someone to bring it up
Tips were nice there lol mostly out of staters feeling genorous
Big Yeet in Washington we get to fill our own gas ya lazy bums
I'd like to congratulate you for the correct pronunciation of Willamette.
Elisabeth Andersen I’ve heard “Willia-met-ee,” “Will-am-et-ay,” “Will-uh-met,” you name it. 😂
He added a s at the end for some reason
I'm super impressed that you pronounced Willamette Valley correctly 🙆🏽♀️
Thank you so much for posting this I’ve been comparing the two can’t decide
In stead of combining, the west side of Washington and Oregon should combine while the east sides do the same. The result, two states east and west of each other by the cascades.
Omg yes!!!!
Great idea! And the left side can have no sales tax. Oregon will absorb it well. XD
Absolutely not. Otherwise we in the west side couldn't control and financially support the east side. We have a lot of control in how we manage public lands in the east side, state parks, as well as just having a greater say in federal public lands in the east side. Lawmakers thus pay attention to all of Oregon, rather than just the eastern side for how to manage public lands in the state. Oregonians and Washingtonians on the west side don't want the eastern sides of our states to become managed like Idaho, which has a worse environmental track record than Oregon and Washington.
As an avid hiker from the west side in Oregon, I hike in eastern Washington and Oregon dozens of times a year. Not having a strong say in that part of my state would be horrible.
And economically, the east sides rely on the west sides' economic urban powerhouses for economic support. And as for eastern Oregon, they'd be even further from the hypothetical eastern side seat of power and largest urban centers (assuming it is near Spokane), than how far they are from the Willamette Valley in Oregon currently.
Now that might work but we would have to do something to keep the westerners from crossing over and contaminating the gene pool. ;)
I don't see why the democrats would agree to give 2 of their 4 safe senate seats in Cascadia to the GOP.
Oregon seems to have a more laid back vibe than Washington. I also feel the infrastructure of Oregon is behind compared to WA as the freeways and roads still seem to be stuck in the 80s. Portland has a more open vibe than Seattle’s hustle and bustle. I can say that Portland smells badly of pee in some of the downtown areas. Seattle traffic can be horrid and you can get stuck for an extra hour in stopped traffic if you’re trying to get somewhere on time. Washington is also becoming ridiculously expensive- excessive taxes and cost of living. Despite some of Washington’s downfalls, I love my home state and its beauty, innovation, and culture. I’ll always be proud to call myself a native Washingtonian.
Thats_LIfe I’ve lived in both but still prefer Washington (lived in Port Angeles, WA for a few years and then Pendleton, OR for a few). If I had to move back from where I am now I’d probably pick Washington but a different city, maybe Bellingham.
The traffic congestion is planned, as their planners rejected building lots of highways splitting neighborhoods apart. That is one way in which Portland is CLEARLY superior to SEA. Neighborhoods.
I'm proud to call myself a Oregonian
our current governor of Portland is against cars. Speed limits are constantly being lowered and lanes are being taken away to add bike lanes. Some changes make sense (like adding a bike lane along Naito Parkway) but in the suburbs it doesn't make sense to do it sense it is far from downtown.
@@l253lhmn6 I'm from Portland, and I am from the outlying suburbs, and I also use a car only. But I am all for the city being "against" cars and being a little more fair to cyclists and public transport.
PDX's lightrail system is the envy of the nation; I'm proud of it, even if I don't really use it. It is great for our tourist economy, too. I hate busses, so I would much rather ride the MAX instead.
As for cyclists. I am not one myself; I live on a large hill, and I hate riding in the summer heat or winter rain... but, I am all for making our roads and bike-ways safer for bikers.
Lastly, I am for all this because we car-users tend to get favored all the time. We get the best of the whole system-roads, freeways, etc. Our city system favors us. So, to be a little bit more fair, I am OK with giving up at least 10% of our roadways and transportation funding for other users who don't like using cars.
Lastly, a lot of people don't use public transport and cycle often, because the system is not developed enough. The more bike ways are added, and the safer users feel riding on them, the more people will feel comfortable to start using them. A lot of people are dissuaded from riding a bike right next to cars, but a little separation goes a long way to encourage people who want to bike, but are afraid to. Secondly, increasing the bike network makes it more convenient for new cyclists.
Same with the MAX lines. The more lines are built, the more convenient the start and end destinations will be for people.
Imagine if we only had 10% of the road network that we have-most likely, many of us would be walking, biking, or using alternate methods to transport us.
I’ve lived in Oregon for 6 years and there’s tons to love about this state. The Oregon Coast for one is spectacular. But I prefer Washington in just about every category. I don’t think you mentioned there are 3 national parks within a few hours distance from Seattle. Oregon has only one and it’s far from Portland. Seattle is also surrounded by the Puget Sound so water views abound. Seattle also has more moderate weather both in summer and winter. But I’m focusing here on the big cities rather than the states I suppose..
Thanks for the tip...looking for a fresh start! Looking for adventure and you gave me a clue.
Although Washington has more national parks there are plenty of beautiful areas in Oregon that are recognized and definitely should be in my opinion
@@matthiasist7245 Agreed!
4:55 Ummmm hello, Intel must be a nothing company? It's HUGE here.... (Oregon)
Another thing. Originally, Washington was going to be called Columbia, after the Columbia river, but named it Washington in order to avoid confusion between the state, and the district of Columbia. And the two were never confused for each other again
awsomesaws ha never....(laughter slowly turns into crying that slowly disasters into silence)
It can be a little more confusing. I live in Vancouver Washington and when I get asked where I live, I always have to specify: Washington, no, not DC. Vancouver, no, not BC. At this point I just tell people I am just north of Portland Oregon. Usually that works.
Just look at a Craigslist listing and you DO SEE people looking for apts in WA STATE (when they really want WA D.C.!! )
Haha, nice low-quality sarcasm, I like it!
Don Bergman I'm in vancouver too and people either thought I was canadian or from dc lol
Where's my fellow Washingtonians at?
Also, you forgot that Boeing was in Washington.
Ethan Cantu Ayyy
Rreee3eeeeeeeee
Boeing is split between Washington and Oregon.
And Columbia is from Oregon so I guess we are even
Sadly, Boeing moved their headquarters to Chicago in 2001, so while they still have quite a lot of business operations in Washington, they are no longer officially a Washington company.
Combining Oregon’s and Washington will never happen for one very simple reason. It would put politicians & bureaucrats out of work
Ahem! Oregon has..
1. Nike HQ
2. Tilamook Cheese
3. KEEN HQ
4. Avia HQ
5. LaCrosse Footwear HQ
6. Amine, Steve Job's daughter, Summer McKeen, Zach King, Beverly Cleary, etc!
7. Columbia Sportswear HQ
8. Precision Castparts Corp. HQ
9. Portland!
Look up more cool things about Oregon!
Trail Blazers!
Also I knew amines little cousin
Meanwhile, Washington has:
1. Amazon
2. Microsoft
3. Nintendo of America
4. Starbucks
5. Kenworth
6. Costco
7. Blue Origin
8. SEATTLE
JIMI HENDRIX, KURT COBAIN, RAINN WILSON, BILL GATES, BRANDON ROY
Haven’t heard of any of these except nike
This was great. I'm a Portlander - and I love both states. There is no place like the PNW.
As a Washingtonian I am in full agreement.
Im in kelso
I love The PNW...try to get there at least once a year......
What's PMW
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"RAIN - EAR"... not ..."reneer." thank you for coming to my ted talk
I have lived in Washington all my life and never ever heard someone say Washington is better than Oregon.
But... I do have to say you missed that Washington has more hours of sun in the summer and less in the winter. There is a big difference between southern Oregon and northern Washington. Washington has the Puget sound... that one was huge. Washington has a north shore. Seattle was the hub for the Yukon gold rush. Washington has way more islands than Oregon. Oregon has creater lake. Washington has 3 national parks while Oregon has 1.
You should make a video with a top list of states you'd think it would be cool if they combined!
Us Oregonians don't have to pump our own gas as well.🤷♀️
Slim Shadie lazy
@@jorensarkinen17 More jobs, negative Nancy🤷♀️
Slim Shadie facts, we can now, but don’t gotta
Slim Shadie you pay more tho
Jaron Aho sounds like you work at a gas station
Dutch Bros. How can you forget Dutch Bros? Probably bc nobody cares about Southern Oregon. 😓
Dutchbros > Starbucks☺
We also have Dutch Bros in Washington.
We should form the state of jefferson
Joava D uhhh dutch bros is in California,Washington, and Oregon so uhhh yeahhhh
Dutch bros started in grants pass
Cool video, thanks for posting. I learned a few things, and I enjoyed your commentary, and humor! Where are you from, anyway? Oregon definitely, definitely, has more breweries than Washington, California, and even Colorado (individually). It is the brewing capital of the USA, and host to many brewing competitions, from county, to state, to national, and international competitions. Central Oregon, alone, has approximately 40+ breweries (including local restaurants that brew), and not all are easily searchable on the internet. No sales tax. And the photo you showed, of "basically, the...desert", is, in fact, the desert. That was Central Oregon, in the outskirts near Bend, where I live, and is considered a high [elevation] Desert climate. It is home to coyotes, great horned owls, peregrine falcon, jackrabbits, many rockchucks (marmots), deer, lizards, mice, hawks, and we even have camel spiders and rattlesnakes. Bend is also a very expensive place to live, (and even the outskirts are high now) though not as bad as some other parts of the USA. Average apartment cost starts at $1175+/month, and it's very difficult to find a house to rent for less than $1,800/month; almost unheard of, really. We're also hugely overcrowded (largely, by people from California), in fact, it's nearly impossible to find ANY place to rent in Central Oregon nowadays. *_A single room_* rents out starting at about $1400/month, so do townhomes. Houses can be $3,000 to $4,000+/month, and some apartments are $1400+. It's becoming a tourist destination, and although not as nice as Sunriver, Bend is now a resort town. I remember when it was nothing but a few log cabins, and miles and miles of untouched desert in between them (nothing but junipers, sagebrush, tumbleweed, soft powdery dirt, and a few rocks here and there).
That bit about California had me dyyyying at 3:00 ha ha ha ha
This was great--thank you for putting this together. Been looking at property in both states along the coast and this was a great way to get a general idea of those differences.
I'm from Spokane and hey I'd be down for the states combining to make a true Cascadia
I've been to Spokane once and enjoyed it. How do you feel about the city?
would you allow Vancouver and possibly the rest of British Columbia to join?
Nathan Loomis Vancouver would probably need to be part of the US or Washington State and Oregon would need to be part of Canada.
Has anyone seen the Cascadia flag designed by Alexander Baretich? It's quite ubiquitous in the close-in eastside parts of Portland, but I haven't seen it much elsewhere.
A large percentage of eastern Oregon's population would love to leave and join Idaho. Southern Oregon would also like to combine with northern California to become the state of Jefferson. The political tyranny of the western portions of both states is astounding, rural communities have very little representation in both states.
I like that you pronounced Willamette correctly.... that's one of our tests to catch outastaters!
Yah I live in the Willamette valley
KW: Now ask 'em if they can pronounce the place that hosts the Western Washington State Fair.
For us it's Puyallup
Oregon has Intel, and Colombia, and Dutch Bros in regards to companies to work for.
Thanks Mr beat for me subscribing this channel
and that California joke was great i have lived in both Oregon and Washington and everyone rips on California
Wesley0493 as. Life long Washington resident, the only thing we rip on more than California is the east coast. LOL
Well it's fun to make fun of California. Also thier kinda douchebags
@@jasoninthehood9726 But you arent qualified to rip the east coast lol. No one cares about Washington or Seattle unless they are white lol
yeah because california sucks. they drink ass water and lay on the beach all day. also i care abt washington and im black lmao
@@plastiqbeach7487 you from Washington? (just curious)
Decent job as a lifelong Oregonian, and can't believe you said willamette right.
I live in the dalles so the only thing between me and Washington is a river.
15 minutes I'm in Washington.
Greetings from the Tumwater area of Washington 👋
Uh, Intel. Employs like 20,000 Oregonians either directly or indirectly.
Dan Webb Yeah this. 30 minutes away from Portland there is a massive Intel plant, they actually just finished a new office building if I remember correctly. I took a tour of it during high school, all I remember is the little machine that carries the silicon wafers around the building is called a FOOP haha
Oh shit, and the Microchip plant, the opposite direction towards Gresham.
Yeah, but Intel is headquartered in California. For the same reason, the video did not mention Boeing (started in Seattle but now it is legally headquartered in Chicago).
Does that plant in OR make the i5 and/or i7 processors?
I built a new computer about 2014, and one of the few parts made in the US was the Intel i5 I bought. :)
Your neighbor in Idaho. Potatoes rock! :) But I think our state harvests more sugar beats.
Oregon sucks
As a black dude, I'm always the only black guy in Portland 😂
go to northeast and that’ll change lmao
Go to south portland and that'll change Lmao
@@amybailey2436 SW here. I know where to find my people
Well there's the 15 Trailblazers.
How? They are literally everywhere. Oregon is more accepting than Washington too.
Oregon and Washington: brought to you by men’s skinny jeans and Subaru Foresters
Dispensaries too!
Portland has more land space then Seattle..
True. You can get to farm country faster from Portland than from Seattle
Living in Vancouver Washington is best because you can go across the river to Portland for all of your shopping to avoid both of the high taxes.
shhhhhhhh shut up stop telling people
I think Oregonians got the better deal on that one... cuz they can take tax off in WA if they ask & show an Oregon ID/license at time of purchase. (See also the WalMart in Longview, WA which asks when you check out if you're an OR resident... :) ).
WA GOP have tried to dial that perk back in the Legislature last season! That is why we need to DEPORT the GOP out of WA! Back to wherever their rock was!
Ken Nicholas nah we have it better. Portlanders still have to pay state tax. I do a bulk of my shopping for non food items is Oregon.
@@lupine25 you do realize those of us who live in Washington can literally do the same exact thing right.... lol. I was born in Eugene and I moved to Vancouver in 2014 and I'll neverrrrrrrr move back.
You misspronounced Mt. Rainier... just saying, it bothers all my fellow washington residents... 🤣🤣🤣
At least he didn't say Ore-gone. ;)
and us oregonians
Yelena misspelled "mispronounced", which ONLY HAS ONE S. LOL!
I live in Rainier Oregon... it hurt pretty bad
I got triggered so bad when he said Mt.Rainier
You forgot how they eat, Oregon: Eats food off plates, Washington: Eats food off the floor.
Ty for an excellent video, very informative
“Both are known for WINE” no I think it’s more like weed 😂
Texas Pete nah it’s wine and beer. Weed just came in when it got legal. Colorado is known for weed
@@losmorrosdelnorte wrong
@@losmorrosdelnorte california is known for weed. Californias weed has the dankest weed in the United states. Thank you california weather 😂
#realborian that’s anecdotal evidence, do t you think other cities in other states have that same amount?
Oregon has had medical marijuana for 20 + years
As a native Californian, I laughed out loud when you said both states bordered a foreign country :P
Nate are you guys pulling out any time soon? I don't hear as much news about CA trying to recede from the United States now that the whole country is doing great economically though you guys lag behind in...quality of life/ thinking. Lol
It was funny... but then I flipped off the screen...lmao!
Any news on your states plan to sail away into the Pacific?
....Which of course never happened, just in case no one got the sarcasm....
Please don’t combine us with Washington
I do not know much about these states. But, I love your sense of humor and jokes.
Glad you mentioned the east-west Cascade political divide. A little detail most overlook
Nobody who lives in the PNW overlooks it. It is also a really major climate divide.
*Me, in Oregon, just nodding, because its all too true*
As an Oregonian, I couldn't help but laugh when you said we border a forgin country, "California" 😂
So right about that. My wife and I moved to Southern Oregon a year and a half ago from San Diego. It definitely feels like a different country up here in a good way.
if washington and oregon become 1 state it should be called "rain and trees"
Ha, so true though. Most of the year is just rain
Rain trees and desert
it should be called desert and rain
Eastern Oregon and Eastern Washington have very little rain and in a lot of areas very few trees.
if washington and oregon become one i will personally shoot the person who decided that, oregon is clearly better.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. There's no NEED to break down the border between the two.
Thank you Oregon for being a buffer from California, sincerely...Washington.
Also for taking Seattle's homeless
Interesting thing about that (see link attached)... Apparently California, in general, is inhaling educated people and people with higher incomes, and exhaling the undereducated and those with lower incomes. It's as though those who fail in California are compelled to relocate to places where their failure in life will be less failey. In short, to parapharase D.J. Trump-- they're not sending their best. lao.ca.gov/LAOEconTax/Article/Detail/265
LibertyJava ha good one
No problem bud.
Ugh!
Do expatriate Oregonians count? I'm living in self imposed exile somewhere east of Denver, and west of St. Louis.
I love these videos, been slowly watching them even though there 2+ years old!
Right off the top of my head, INTEL.
Judith Provost don’t forget dutch bros!
Their main headquarters is in Silicon Valley (South SF Bay, CA) like most of the tech companies.
I was thinking the same thing. Their intel property is huge!
The intel property is also in Beaverton/Hillsboro, havent been past there since i went to Salem, so i have no idea how big it is rn. But the Nike building looks pretty cool not gonna lie
Dutch
Both have been ruined by the people who have moved there. I miss both states back in the 1990s. Totally a different place back then.
Very true, the early 90's were great here, very little crime or fear.
In Washington so many people are moving here, making it more crowded and dangerous it used to be fine in Olympia but now everyone is moving there cause its cheaper then Seattle. I see so many California people,cause of the homeless problem in California and how expensive it is and everything is getting crazy cause people dont like Californians. As crude as this sounds "All the crap people are moving in" from all over.
Places grow and change over time. It isn't only the transplants that are a nuance but I get your point. In the 80's Edmonds, WA was awesome.
Too many crackheads in Salem is all ill say
Best post on here. It’s so true. I miss those days. With all the riff that’s moved here it’s changed so much
I ordered a hazelnut mocha in Hawaii and they looked at me like hair was made of fire.
As an Oregon resident, you forgot to mention the Rogue Valley being home to Harry and David. Oregon grows pears along with other produce. Also in Oregon is Arcimoto, a Fun Utility Vehicle manufacurer.
Seems like you don’t know enough about Oregon
Oregon is trash Washington is better
yuriy paul Oregon Territory 👊🏽
@@ventura80503 what do you mean Washington is better then Oregon confirmed
yuriy paul stop shopping here then
Paul they are literally the same 😂
I'm from Seattle! And it's pronounced "Rain-neer".
I think it's a bit more like "Ray-neer", basically the same. I'm just across the water from Seattle
Thank you!!😭
At 0:47 the top right pic is of dry fall a dryer up water fall that would be the biggest in the world if it was flowing I recommend searching it up
I recognize one area in particular in the early part of the video - Dry Falls, and Sun Lakes, in addition to the Yakima Valley where I was born.
Just moved to Seattle, WA from the mid-west and Seattle has a ridiculous affordable housing problem and inflated cost of living!
anything outside the mid-west will be inflated living.
Nowadays unless you make really good money or have roommates, it's close to impossible to live in Seattle. That wasn't always the case: in the '80s you could wash dishes or deliver pizza and afford an apartment downtown.
Already left town......just wasn't worth it
Yep. Blame the tech boom in the 90s. Seattle, Bellevue, Kirkland...all ridiculous sky high prices. Even Everett is getting out priced because the wages at Boeing keep increasing.
@@profd65 ... Heck, in the mid 80's you could still get a 3 bedroom/2 bath with 180-250 foot of waterfront for $180K on Whidbey Island.
I’ve lived in Oregon my whole life. And probably the most popular thing here. CAMPING. CAMPING,CAMPING, AND MORE CAMPING. ALMOST EVERYONE THAT CAN AFFORD ONE, WILL BUY A R.V OR A TRAILER. Your welcome :)
Yeah I grew up in Oregon, my family could never afford extravagant vacations so it was always camping or going to the coast. I've spent a few weeks of every year camping for pretty much my entire life. Always amazes me when I suggest going on a camping trip to a friend that moved here later in life and they have never camped before.
More like HIKING, HIKING, HIKING, lol. I'm pretty sure hiking is a tad more popular here in Oregon. While campgrounds can only accommodate so many people, trails can usually hold a lot more. It is also easier for people to go hiking on a whim more often in the summer, than camping (which requires extensive planning). This is all in a general sense, though.
There are hundreds of thousands of hikers in Portland alone, not including the major hiking hubs of Bend, Eugene, and Salem.
But I guess whatever it is, it speaks volumes as to the power of the recreation industry in Oregon, and how much the outdoors plays in Oregon culture.
As a true Oregonian, Washington feels like the more popular little brother. Also Oregon is the only state on the western side of the US with gas attendants (You don't pump gas yourself, someone else does)
I thought they were doing away with gas attendants in Oregon.
It’s funny hear an outside perspective on Oregon and Washington. The video is a lot more accurate than I expected!
I live in Washington, but would love to retire to Oregon. How about them apples?
ROFL my Uncle use to say "How about them there apples" ...he was from Oregon.
you're forgetting the 83% of the us's raspberries we (wa) make
Or them Hazelnuts.
awful falafel and we have cherries
@@sdrx903 im gonna move there from washington just for raspberries hell yeah
Where my Oregonians at
Right here
And here, waving.
Here I am
Here
Albany OR here!!
I used to live in Portland. I was too young to remember anything.
@@ernestmurphy2741 typical portlander