Which two cities should I compare next? I got Seattle's minimum wage wrong. Its minimum wage is $15 in general. Employers can only pay $12 if they contribute at least $3 for health care and tips, and $16.25 for large corporations. A special thanks to Peter from the channel Stacks and Facts for reading over my script! Check out his channel: th-cam.com/channels/37J30wHpQOtc1vzuN6OdDA.html Check out J.J. McCullough's Vancouver video: th-cam.com/video/a3SxUWbsPKw/w-d-xo.html
Neophyte hahahaha wtf I’m from Oaxaca, México and my state is more the double the size of netherlands 😂 hehe and for me we have little states compared with the states in the US 😂
Haha that’s insane, I live in the state of São Paulo In Brazil and I took once 5 hours to cross the state. During my euro trip I took only 1 hour and half to cross the entire Netherlands. My fave country in the trip btw!
Play Waves the comment meant that the similarities that are there make it feel like your in the same place or a version of it, not that they are exactly the same..everyone knows that are not the same exactly, I have the same feeling about a few places where I live now compared to another city I used to live in..they are not exactly the same but close that it’s actually kind odd how similar they can be
I live in Seattle. Once a while I'll have friends that are going to Vancouver. I don't even ask which one because I will just see from the photos. But if a friend ask if I want to go to vancouver with them, I always ask "BC?" to clear up the confusing. And ya its always been BC. I never been to Vancouver, WA.
"Seattle is the Northernmost major city in the continental USA. The people there dress like it's Alaska. Vancouver is the warmest city year-round in Canada. The people there dress like it's California." - Douglas Coupland, or words to that effect.
I think the video is pretty representative. After living in both places. Style in Seattle: flannel, glasses, converse, grunge influenced, still stuck in the 90s. Vancouver: More European, more stylish, simple, hipster, and asian influences.
Lived in both. Currently in Seattle. Can confirm, the cities are both very similar and very different. I like them both, but do prefer Vancouver as it's a lot more walkable and a LOT cleaner.
@@fifermcgee5971 I wouldn't say that necessarily, I work in the Vancouver DTES and theres a LOT of vulnerable homeless people down there. Not the safest place to walk around imo
In Vancouver most of the waterfront is public park. In Seattle, most of the waterfront is private. You can walk around False Creek in Vancouver, quite a large distance. But you cannot walk around the perimeter of Lake Union in Seattle. The demolition of the Alaska Way Viaduct will help. But there will still be a large road along the waterfront to replace it in Seattle right next to the pedestrians which is not the case in Vancouver. A public waterfront is one of the features that makes walking in Vancouver more pleasant than walking in Seattle. I have lived years in both places.
i mean the lake union park, gas works and the park near sand point i forgot the name are not bad, but yeah there are more waterfront public space in Vancouver bc
Most architects and city planners in Canada are actually from Europe, where land use is at a premium everywhere, so you have to PLAN plan plan. American got sloppy, and even with the (obvious) example north didn't get it for decades. NOW Seattle, San Diego, are going high rise condo, land use, access to waterfront, but they're half a century behind. Arthur Erickson and the Bosa Bros., both based in Van. along with Jack Poole had to go south to show "how it's done".
@@joseaguilera9533 its no beach. Lake union like she said is a Lake not a waterfront. Even our downtown waterfront overlooks the puget sound and is not very walkable. You can go to the other side of Seattle, west Seattle and its extremely walkable. Plus there are beaches in West Seattle. I cannot accurately compare it to Vancouver but it looks like Stanley park but farther away and much much bigger. (from what Ive seen in the video)
Vancouverite, and I love Seattle too. Would be really really really really really cool if that high speed train thing happens to become a reality connecting our region. I think the Cascadia region could become a super-hub of tech and creative culture. Also it would be sweet if Seattle had an NHL team and we could get a good rivalry going on.
Live in Bellingham so I'm smack dab in the middle and I've spent a lot of time in both places. My opinion on both: Seattle: An amazing tourist town, awesome place to visit. The Space Needle, pikes place, Amazon building etc etc. One of the best tourist towns but it does get old after awhile and you do sort of run out of things to do. Great place to live if you're in software development as pay is almost as good as silicon valley but not nearly as expensive. Vancouver: Not as good of a tourist city but grows on you over time. Like the person that's sort of boring at first but has a lot of depth. You will never run out of things to do. People are extremely friendly and also have that laid back west coast vibe going on. Overall I love both cities but Vancouver wins for me :)
Love Bellingham. Vancouver used to be a laid back city back in the 80's. But since we felt the need to double the population, not so anymore. We must make sure all this scary overpopulation going on everywhere in the world, should be referred to as economic growth. That way no one notices.
@@fifermcgee5971 not really. Living right by the border its way cheaper to cross and shop in the states even with exchange canada is expensive and they have way more taxes
Disagree that Vancouver is not as good as a tourist city. It's one of the best.. downtown, 1hr + from Whistler, Ocean, hiking etc. The whole place is tourism!
@?????? I think it got up to like 108 degrees at one point a few weeks ago. People from Arizona might be used to that, but that’s insane for people in Seattle, and to make it worse, lot of people in Seattle don’t have AC because it’s not usually very hot outside.
I have lived in Vancouver for one month. Man did I go broke. I am living in Ottawa. It is not so exciting but lots more reasonable to live in. Yes Vancouver and Seattle are beautiful cites. British Columbia is called BC for a reason = Bring Cash and lots of it when you go there.
Except there's more to BC than just Vancouver, and once you get away from the Vancouver metro area, the rural parts of BC tend to have inexpensive housing. (Cost of land is the biggest variable in housing cost, and there's a _lot_ of land to go around in rural BC.)
The different liquor laws affected our family. A 19 yr Seattle resident came to Vancouver for a beer, maybe two, and now we have to go to Seattle to see our daughter & grandchildren
Born and raised in NC but I take 1 annual trip to Seattle. The clouds and rain, the mountains, the water, it just feels like home. Sending love to the PNW.
Edmonton is literally 100 times better. I lived in Edmonton for 6 years and lived in calgary for 12...and still do. There's nothing to do in this shithole city
Hi From Scotland I lived in Vancouver for 2.5 years and loved it!!! I visited Seattle several times and enjoyed it. At first glance I found the 2 cities very similar, but later started to notice the differences. Vancouver is much more like European cites, I noticed in Vancouver that people lived, worked and played in their city, the city centre was very busy in the evenings and weekend, like European cities. When I visited Seattle we tended to stay in hotels in the centre, but realised the city centre basically shut down in the evenings and weekends, and we had to get buses to other areas of the city to visit pubs, cafes, entertainment etc, which I found sad as there was some great places in the city centre we wanted to go to in the evenings but they were closed. This may have changed since 20 years ago, although I also lived in St Louis for 18 months and it was basically the same there, deserted city centre in the evenings and weekends, so seems to be a feature of big US cites. ...I don't know. I also found the food/ restaurants were much better, more varied and cheaper in Vancouver. Loved both cites, but if I had to choose, where to live again, i would pick Vancouver every time.
Couldn’t agree more. Basically I have lived Seattle and loved it. However, 5 years and $10,000 in medical debt later (with good insurance) and they still won’t send me to a specialist without 2 more tests that I don’t have but it’s required..so I gave up cuz I can’t afford it. No point in falling in love if you just fall apart. My friend with the same condition who married in Canada and moved to Vancouver misses the architecture and hills, but is much healthier and actually sends me some of their meds so I can feel better some days too. Wow kinda dark now that I look at the words.. no you definitely right.
Quite the opposite you would make more money working in tech or minimum wage in Seattle of course it's US dollar so you could visit Canada or anywhere else and the U.S. Dollar is always worth more. The minimum wage in BC will go up to $15 but that's only about $12.50 U.S. Pretty much everything is more expensive in Vancouver even with the dollar. Websites like Numbeo don't always give the full picture for cost of living u have to do your own research.
Vancouver doesn't really have that many large companies compared to Seattle, so it is harder to find good paying jobs. Vancouver has better architecture and scenery than Seattle does, so it would be a better place to visit. Additionally housing in downtown Vancouver is more expensive and it is harder to get around if you live outside the city itself or Richmond.
It is the opposite. Seattle offers better job opportunities and cheaper homes to buy or rent. Vancouver is more modern and sexy. Seattle has WAAAAY more job opportunities. Canadian economy SUCKS --- coming from a Canadian.
As a Vancouver native who is (unsurprisingly...) familiar with Seattle, the biggest difference I always feel is that Seattle is an integral part of the U.S.A., while Vancouver is its own little bubble largely alienated from the rest of Canada. Seattle is a lot hotter in the summer.
Interesting to hear that perspective, as an American from the north east who has been to Seattle, I feel totally differently... Seattle always feels like a strange alternate universe version of America. It's in my experience a very separate place....crazy to think Vancouver is even more separate from her home country!
From having been to both places (and living in Montreal, spending quite a bit of time in the US Northeast and Ohio, and having been to much of Canada), I could indeed attest that Vancouver is utterly different from the rest of Canada and is in its own little corner along with Victoria and Vancouver Island. And yes, Seattle does feel quite a bit different from the eastern US - even the vernacular residential architecture in the Pacific Northwest is different from the Northeast and Midwest.
@@liamtahaney713 I grew up in the Midwest and now live in Portland but visit Seattle and Vancouver frequently. Definitely agree that Seattle feels very different from the east coast, but it feels fairly similar to the rest of the west coast (I also lived in LA and have family in SF). I haven't been elsewhere in Canada, so hard for me to say if it feels different form the rest of the country
@@MrBlackCoffee96 Like I said, get a Nexus pass. Live in Vancouver, and since you'd be regular crosser, get Nexus express pass to avoid long border waits, work in Seattle, and return home using Nexus again.
1 great thing both seattle and vancouver can both be proud of is Jimmy Hendrix, though he was born in Seattle his father and his father's family is from vancouverbc, Jimmy spent lots of time when he was young with his grandparents in Vancouver
From what I’ve heard... it almost seems like Seattleites think Vancouver is bigger and fancier, and vancouverites seem to think Seattle is bigger and fancier 😂
Vancouver certainly seems bigger, not sure about fancier but that is probably just because it seems more contained whereas Seattle area is more spread out. Here you don't really hit country until after tacoma, everett, and redmond (or issaquah) so the sudden density of humans doesn't hit you as hard as when you go to Vancouver.
Curtis B North once you pass marysville. Pretty country til you hit Bellingham Once you get pass olympia. Thats country til you get to the other Vancouver
I was born in Vancouver but live in Seattle. The cities are substantially similar except there is far more business in Seattle (10 fortune 500 companies are headquartered there) than in Vancouver (zero). Also there is more a focus in Seattle on the water (people regularly have boats) whereas Vancouverites usually look to the mountains (Whistler)
Exactly. Vancouver is a resort, not a real city. There's the obscenely rich; the ones serving them, who can barely afford rent with roommates (or live in a van); and there's the homeless addicts who are offered free drugs by the government, instead of help. Seattle on the other hand has some serious industry and more well-paid jobs.
As someone that lives near Seattle, I can say that the last few years (since 2018 maybe?) we've had unreasonable amounts of snow. Like, I know people that got very close to a foot of snow in a day and a half. And that's been the case every time we get snow for the last 3 or 4 years. One year the snow stayed on the ground for a whole ass month.
Also live in Seattle but am from Spokane. Reading this I wanna say “suck it up, buttercup” so bad, but yeah I feel ya there. The roads here get horrible when the snow sticks and it sucks.
Working for a tow truck company that has locations in both Spokane and Seattle: Spokane gets more snow for sure, but when Seattle snows, all hell breaks loose!
@@BMXICANx462 yuuup. Even if there's just a freeze, all hell breaks loose. We had a really cold week back in February, and it got down to close to 15 Fahrenheit in the morning. Just sirens constant for an hour from first responders going to accidents. Even the road by my house was just COVERED in black ice
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What Vancouver citizen goes all the way down to Seattle for stores like costco or target? I can tell you for certain most stop in my hometown, Bellingham, for that? Any Canadian from the Vancouver area who crosses the border knows about Bellingham.
Yes! I live in Seattle and had a friend that lived in Bellingham, and we weren't aware of this fact. We went to Costco just to pick up a couple things and it was PACKED with people who had carts that were PACKED with pretty much everything! We were like um........
Best Buy, 3 blocks from me in Vancouver. ( BC not Wa ) Costco, right beside BC Place stadium in Vancouver. The differences shrink between Canada and the US constantly. It is pretty obvious that the only ones that seem destined to remain are the Universal Health Care and Federal Government systems.
I lived in Seattle for 10 years and in Vancouver for 20 years both, and there are a few more differences that strike me. First, Vancouver has done a much job of reserving ocean shorelines for everyone by creating parks all over the waterfront. Second, Vancouver feels like a bigger city when you walk around in it. Third, Seattle has far more fresh water swimming access because of Lake Washington. Fourth, Vancouver drivers seem more polite. And fifth, Seattle has a significant Black population while Vancouver has a large minority who have emigrated from India. Both are delightful cities, and I love them both.
Love Seattle. One of the greatest cities in the US. Educated, urban, most beautiful landscape in the country, tons of high paying jobs, we have some of the most important companies in the world... the list goes on and on. It’s just awesome.
Awesome video! As a Vancouverite and also a follower of this channel for about a year now, it makes me happy to see you cover my home city. There’s a few things about Vancouver you could’ve touched on a bit more detail on though - we’ve also hosted Expo 86 which showcased the site of the worlds first driverless metro system in what is now the SkyTrain (part of our public transit, although it’s pretty outdated compared to other systems). The Waterfront area (Canada Place, Convention Centre) is also a great place to visit for tourists. Also, Grouse is pronounced with an “ow” sound... but other than that, very happy to see this.
@@iammrbeat we are the city where bus rider say "thank you" to the bus driver when we get off the bus. I tried that in San Fran and people thought I was from another planet.
In Vancouver we don't we don't hook our horn in traffic as it's considered extremely rude and is only used in emergency The only people who do are considered a,,h,,e s or tourists , Traffic flows with a Zen order ,,,,odd but true !
Vancouver also has an NHL and CFL team while Seattle doesn't. But Seattle has a MLB and NFL team and Vancouver doesn't. But both cities have MLS teams.
John Parks NBA teams Seattle SuperSonics & Vancouver Grizzlies...they both couldn’t keep their NBA teams. At least they both have something to talk about at the dinner table lolz
I moved here myself from the Canadian prairies, many years ago, and I've never regretted it. I'd never live anywhere else. English Bay, the mountains, Stanley Park, cultures and cuisine from all over the world.... It's an expensive city, especially real estate -- but if you've ever walked down Beach Avenue on a sunny July afternoon, you know what heaven looks like.
@@fuhrfhrei3441 San Diego is so nice. Especially Coronado Beach. I get why people like the Pacific Northwest but it’s way too gloomy, wet, and cold most of the year for my liking.
You wouldn't like that weather where a warm place with well air conditioner is not available , or if you are homeless , I like cold too but not in my place with no air conditioner because it's too expensive and not common in my country , it don't get very cold and it's just 2 to 3 month per year cold So I have to wear socks , double blankets , wash my hands with warm watter wear a lot of clothes even inside the house
@@Marco-jm1mo Of course! When heating is not available, definitely not recommended. The comment was written with the idea that heating is available or means of being able to get warm were available.
@@wimbletone I know , but I said that because I have that idea of people in Canada in general or Seatle or any Northern American city or any cold place in the world are just used to cold weatger , even I see girls wearing skirts under the rain , so I have tgat idea of peopls are just use ti cild unlike me , so automatically it's easy for them even without air conditioners to live in cold or just stay outside and chilling with out shaking in their boots ... while my country that has sun almost the whole year , it's just now , from the middle of November probablly till the middle of Juanary , the cold will be gone , but I like cold and I want to live in it most if the time , I adore rain , I like cold dark streets and cozy warm nights but I'm affraid I won't like it anymore and can't get use to it and forced to live with it in a long period of time if I ever travel or move to Canada or scandinavia or the US because I'm going to one of these in the next 4 to 5 years , but I fear from cold because while I'm typing this comment my naked hands are freezing I know that in the US I can move to another warmer state , it's easy , but I don't thnik so it's the same thing in Sweeden where my gf is or Canada of I ever move to it because of work
And now, Seattle has an NHL team with the Kraken set to play next year. In the same division as the Vancouver Canucks. So that should make for an interesting rivalry for Northwest Hockey.
This was great. I'm a Seattleite looking to relocate. I've been a Portland resident (and loved it) and spent time in Vancouver (and loved it). One thing not addressed here that I've noticed and would love to see discussed somewhere: the Seattle Freeze isn't replicated in Vancouver (or Portland) in my experience or, from what I can tell, most people's. I've found Seattle VERY difficult to connect with, in terms of finding friends, and that was not my experience in Portland; Vancouver seems to be as friendly as most Canadians are rumored to be. I made more friends in two weekends in Vancouver than I've made here in Seattle in five years! If there's anything I'd fix about Seattle, it's the icy professional sheen most people have here, and the expensive healthcare. I'm not alone in that, if the Seattle Times is accurate; a lot of people seem to leave here because they find it as lonely as I have. Seems like both issues will change if I head up north a bit, but I'd love to see someone address it directly.
Have been in Seattle about the same amount of time as you (at least you from 8 months ago...). At this point my conclusion has been that its the stress and time suck of working at places like Amazon and Microsoft on people's mental health. These places deliver a lot of good things to the world, but it comes at a price. For a lot of people that "icy professional sheen" is merely all they can do, to hide the just-trying-not-to-drown that's happening underneath.
Best thing Vancouver city ever did was to not build ugly, noisy, barrier, gridlock freeways! Also, Vancouver hosted the 1986 world exposition, and has one of North America's largest Chinatowns, which is also a huge tourist draw along with Lonsdale Quay/Shipyards, False Creek, Commercial Drive Yaletown, and Queen Elizabeth Park to name just a few.
Also the SkyTrain in Vancouver is one the of the best transit experiences in the US and Canada. It is so much better than Seattle’s Link light rail. Seattle should’ve modeled their transit after the SkyTrain.
@@eriklakeland3857 unfortunately translink (the company that manages skytrain and other transit in vancouver) is currently underfunded so we don't have as much skytrain as we should
Great video! Well researched, and informative. As a Seattlite, I've always felt Vancouver (as well as Portland) have a lot in common. Though one of our local hobbies it to talk about how bad/good each other's (fill in the blank) is. Its more sibling squabbles - we are all connected and related as a region. Thanks!
I've lived in both cities. Fun to watch this comparison. Both visually stunning. Both now too expensive, especially for housing. By the way, it's Grouse like house Mt, not like goose. It was recently discovered that Seattle and Western Washington are long overdue for a mega-earthquake even worse than the ones they are waiting for in California. So glad I lived there, not going back.
I am from Ciudad Juárez. Both cities are very different, especially in size, but at the same time they are very interconnected culturally and commercially speaking.
At one time they probably would of been more similar, but Minneapolis is huge now and continues to grow in population and attracts alot of people, but no one in Canada wants to move to WINTERPEG, because its so damn cold...colder than the Minneapolis area
@@zochbuppet448 Don't think it has to do with it being cold so much as it has to be with it just not being an interesting city in modern times. At one point it was an important city in so many ways, but now what is there? It also has one of the higher crime rates of any large Canadian city, no? Most people would choose to live in Edmonton over Winnipeg, both cold.
@@j2174 I was joking about the winter, obviously its more than that. Obviously its more isolated but the provincial governments are terrible at economics and managing small and medium sized cities. All they know to do is throw more money at what already works, large cities like Toronto
@@zochbuppet448 actually, I don't think that's why no one moves there. Winnipeg is practically the worst city in Canada lol. Edit: I just read your last comment. I definitely agree although apparently they also have some massive issues with the natives so that's also a big factor
I lived in Seattle for three years. I miss it, my wife and I might move back to the PNW but we couldn’t afford Seattle. If you don’t make a tech worker salary there it is hard to afford. Seattle has really changed from 2000 to 2010s.
I've made it work on a salary of $26k. It's hard though because there's a culture of spending money here - expensive restaurants are way more normal than I'm used to, for example - that hasn't been the case in other cities (most of which had an artistic underclass that I'm used to hanging with - those guys can stretch a dime). But if you find a small place outside the center of the city, and you cook at home, and you keep most things in walking distance, you should be fine. Just don't buy things you don't need.
@@HOTPLATEGAMING how far outside, I live 25 miles north in Mukilteo, housing prices are still crazy, you have to go to Marysville or Monroe to find decent prices in the north and good luck in the south sound
Then I don’t know if you’ll understand what I’m talking about, but the boat port right near the kayak shot is actually in Kirkland, not Seattle! It doesn’t make much difference, but I just wanted to point it out.
Very good video! Some small corrections: Washington state minimum wage is $12, but in Seattle city limits it's $15. Seems like you'd want to make that distinction. Grouse Mountain is pronounced like "mouse", not "moose" Maybe more emphasis on the public transport, it's waaaay better in Vancouver 😉
Yeah I messed up that. It's really disheartening that I can't seem to make it through an entire video without making one mistake. Being a one-man show, it can be difficult to get it all 100% right. I did have three different people read over the script, but apparently all three people missed that. When I can someday afford it, one of the first jobs I will hire out to is a fact checker.
Sonics coming back real soon I expect due to all the rumblings I'm hearing and I hope it happens at a time when Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook can leave their respective and reunite for the team where Kevin Durant played in his rookie year and the team where Russell Westbrook was drafted to!!! Also hopefully the Grizzlies go back to Vancouver since Memphis such a boring and drab ass city tbh and Vancouver is a superior city
Hey So does Vancouver Rock City. lol it’s my city I was born there. I enjoyed both cities. I got trashed at a punk show hosted by Duff Mckagan & Krist Novoselic.
Seattle was the first city I visited in the States, and I was flabbergasted. It seemed to be a dream. It reminded me a little bit of Europe. Some neighbourhoods reminded me of London, actually. But then I started seeing dozens and dozens homeless people and beggars. They were everywhere. That was as if someone had thrown a cold glass of water on my face. The USA spends millions in building up an image of a superpower modern democracy, but the truth is that there’s a high percentage of their people living in extreme poverty.
But San Diego ain’t dangerous Tijuana wild like the city I grew up in in Detroit tho they crazy over there in Tijuana man like my boys in Detroit🤪 even my current city of Houston ain’t as wild as Tijuana tho lol and we wild here too so San Diego ain’t comparable in that sense tbh
The North Shore mountains in Vancouver are part of the Coast Mountains, not the Cascades! The two ranges are separated by the Fraser River, which flows past the southern boundary of Vancouver proper. That said, the Cascades are very close and Mt. Baker is an impressive sight in the southern skyline on a clear sunny day.
Love the video, but it’s pronounced “Gr-ao-se” mountain. With the same sound you would say if you stubbed your toe: “OW!!”. Named after a very stupid bird that is hunted very easily.
When I was a teenager we used to drive around the woods in a truck looking for grouse, jump out, then shoot them. It was really that easy. There was a spot on the trial we called "killer grouse corner" where one would fly up to the truck and try to attack us through the window. It was the craziest thing, Im guessing it was a mother or something. We left that one alone.
One of the better reasons to live in either Seattle or Vancouver is that when your sick of one city/country you can take a short travel to the latter and be in a totally different but similar place...
“Safe”. I went there once in my life and my car got broken into, they stole a lot of records, my passport paperwork, they broke both the drivers and passengers windows, and snapped the neck of the pet canary in my car. This was at a Costco, which has a pretty good reputation here in the US
@UCqehTzvsLqFAXrYDeAVmGFQ @UCqehTzvsLqFAXrYDeAVmGFQ lived there for 14 years never felt unsafe. Never had a car broken into or anything even leaving my car unlocked with a computer visible. Sometimes some idiot decides like ruining someone's day, sounds like you got unlucky. Sorry that happened to you
@@2hot4u97 there is tons of petty crime like that in Vancouver (having your bike stolen or window smashed is a right of passage), but almost no violent crime especially compared to any American city. sorry about your bird though, that's really heartbreaking, poor canary :(
@@StillDontKnow8 It's just weird because he says he is from Vancouver but I have lived in Vancouver my entire life and he is the only "vancouverite" that I have ever heard pronounce around like that.
Vancouver is full of nice people. That’s one of the reasons why I really enjoy going up there. I live between both cities and I feel at home in either one.
Thanks for the video, Mr. Beat!! Speaking as a Canadian who's been to Vancouver several times (my family used to live out there), I honestly think you could've picked a better ambassador for the city than JJ. Much of his perspective leans in the direction of envying the US and the American system, and it comes across in his description of Vancouver and their activities relating to Seattle. Instead of being a solid representatives of all the awesome things unique to see and do in the city of Vancouver, his perspective seemed to be envying all the "big, important" things in Seattle without supporting the Home team. I didn't really feel his perspective to be representative of most Vancouverites I've met and talked to, including my family who lived there. So take his perspective with a grain of salt; it doesn't necessarily reflect how a lot of people from Vancouver feel about Seattle or even Canada's relationship with the USA more broadly. Keep up the good content in general!
@@KanyeTheGayFish69 Hate is an overly negative spin on this. More in the realm of, "We don't rely on the US as much as JJ makes it out." Plenty of people like going south of the border, but for things like fast food it's a bit of a stretch, especially for things like Chick-Fil-A. First of all, Vancouver has some AMAZING fried chicken (shoutout to Fried Chicken Works!!) and second of all, Canada is veryyyyy pro-LGBTQ and especially in Vancouver. When Chick-Fil-A opened up in Toronto, which like Vancouver is a big and Lberal-leaning city, there was a wide-scale Boycott because of their homophobic policies and stances of the owners. Not a lot of Vancouverites would be willing to spend a lot of money to go South of the Border for a restaurant most of them intrinsically dislike and see as objectionable.
@@iammrbeat Thanks, I'm glad that you took those steps! Keep producing great content, and never stop asking questions/looking at other perspectives everyone!! :D
It’s tough to speak on behalf of a whole city. I’m from Vancouver too and I don’t really disagree with JJ’s take. Seems as valid as any other. I’m gay as well, and am not bothered in the least by Chick fil-a. Live and let live. Incidentally, I like Seattle quite a lot. A beautiful city.
Same guy says aboot in another video aboot milk in bags. I always told my American friends that Canadians don't say aboot. I had to take it back. There is one.
I don’t know why but I started to laugh when Mr Beat said “folks immediately started sticking their chewing gum on the wall again.” I guess it was the way he said it! Also at the very end where he said "it feels like you're in a whole other country, because you are." I love these kind of videos with the comedic undertone. It makes the video fun to watch. Keep up the great videos!
I've visited Seattle for a week. decided to hop over to Vancouver to see what it's like for 2 days. I'd say Vancouver's a little better but then I got my rented-car towed over some stupid parking violation, so I'm gonna say Seattle's better out of spite. (they're both still pretty similar though). plus Seattle has the Starbucks Reserve - which was one of my favorite things when visiting
As a Canadian, we never refer to BC as the PNW. Probably because it's south of most of our cities and everywhere is north up here lol. It wasn't until I moved down to the states that I ever heard the term. Also it's cute that people think Seattle/Vancouver is cold during the winter
Would love to see more videos comparing bordering cities (or neighboring cities in different countries as it may technically)! Tons of others to do between the US-Canada border and around the world. Personally I’d love to see one comparing Kinshasa and Brazzaville.
This video is awesome. I was surprised how fast you glanced over the fact that there's a colossal highway slicing Seattle in half, while Vancouver has no highways at all! For me, a Vancouverite who visits Seattle, that is the standout difference.
I live in Seattle currently, but I'm trying to move to Vancouver (waiting for my application to be approved) and after spending lots of time in both cities, I would say the biggest difference is the "Seattle Freeze" isn't as prevalent in Vancouver. People tend to be a lot more polite and willing to strike up conversation than in Seattle.
YES!!!!!!! This has ben my experience too. The only people who deny that the Seattle Freeze exists are the natives, and holy fuck are they the unfriendliest people of them all. I've made friends, but it's been harder here than anywhere else I've lived by a mile, and anytime I bring it up with someone they start with "yeah I lived here for 10/15/20 years before I finally broke through." Dude I don't have that kind of time. I made more friends in a few days in Vancouver than I have with half a decade of really trying here. It's exhausting.
@@lionelhutz5137 Dude, you have no idea. Seattle is unlike any city I've experienced in that regard except maybe San Fransisco. There are aloof people everywhere but the Seattle Freeze is a phrase for a reason. I can and have made friends in New York, LA, Atlanta, Charlottesville, Portland, and several small towns. I cannot, for the fuckin life of me, make any real friends in Seattle (unless it's people who give up and move away because THEY can't make friends either). There's a reason the Seattle Times talks about the Seattle Freeze almost every week. It is normal here to have waitresses and gas station attendants and grocery store people and therapists and business acquaintances and people you just generally share interests with to ALL be aloof and distant and more than a little scornful and sarcastic and cold. It's awful. I had a friend a year ago joke that he had a rude waitress for the first time in New York and it made him homesick for Seattle and several of us were like "yup, that's exactly what it's like here." Distant, sarcastic rudeness is the norm and I hate it.
I’ve never experienced Seattle freeze at all. It really depends on your personality, as a Seattleleite, people have been nice and friendly to me all the time. If you’re an introvert and anti-social of course people won’t talk to you. Depends on perspective and personality really...
Great video! I'm glad you mentioned that Vancouver is more 'important' to its country than Seattle is. Vancouver has hosted the Winter Olympics in 2010 the World Expo in 1986. It gets more federal money and national attention than Seattle does and that makes a difference in the look and feel of the city. Also, historically, Vancouver has had a significant hippie/lefty culture. In this way, it's more similar to San Francisco than Seattle. For example, Greenpeace was founded in Vancouver in the 1960s. Over the years, many people from all over Canada have migrated to Vancouver to enjoy a more relaxed, lifestyle-oriented vibe. For example, I meet a lot of people from Toronto and Calgary who say they "escaped" those cities because they were too stuffy or conservative.
@@robertkraljii5048 We elected a few to office and one ended up VP for Mac Bloedel. There's actually one STILL HERE in Grand Forks in a Dukabour colony, and my gal friend knows him!! BUT NO, they didn't have much of an actual "impact' like European migration or the Brits, who keep coming and taking all the good jobs.
@@robertkraljii5048 The "Big O" on Van.'s north short was their hangout, but like Expo 86 they brought up a LOT of drug dealing and found out fast the cops were pretty mellow about it. Unfortunately, that meant cocaine, followed by heroin and fentynal. Not all good. Until the Russians took over briefly and later Red Scorpion, and then the Big Circle Boys, who were are are deadly. BCB have always been around, but got real nasty once China got into Van. in big numbers.
I agree that Vancouver is a lot more like San Francisco than it is like Seattle. When I lived in San Francisco (for 12 years), I spent almost every August in Vancouver. I would sometimes also visit Seattle, but I felt much more at home and welcome in Vancouver. In Vancouver, people thought I lived there, but in Seattle, the first thing people would ask me was "Where are YOU from?". This was in the 1970s and 1980s, and Seattle was not very sophisticated back then, whereas Vancouver was. The music in Vancouver was much better than in Seattle as well and was similar to music in San Francisco. A lot of the fashion in Vancouver at that time came directly from London, bypassing New York completely, whereas Seattle still had the lumberjack look, which I never got into.
FYI: when describing Vancouver as having the Straight of Georgia to the west, the video actually shows Burrard Inlet which separates Vancouver from North Vancouver. This is easily confirmed by the Seabus crossing in the clip.
Seattle, Portland and Vancouver, cities so alike that Vancouver doubles for Seattle and Portland without any set dressing. (The fire department I live near, all they did was put some cars with Portland plates outside it.)
In Vancouver there are just less options. In America, there are dozens of fast food places, while in Vancouver there are about 10 or so depending what you call a fast food chain. Sometimes we’ll drive to the Seattle area just for Chick-Fil-A or Trader Joe’s. Vancouver is nicer in natural beauty, but I think Seattle is more liveable because there is actually industry there. Real estate is the main driver of the Vancouver economy, thereby pricing out the average Vancouverite.
You have to put yourself in their shoes. People always want what they can't have. I've traveled to countries where families literally went to KFC to eat as an occasion. Like it was a big deal. But in the U.S. KFC conjures up a nauseating feeling for I and many others.
I live in Portland, have visited both Seattle and Vancouver countless times. Love both for different reasons, but Vancouver definitely has more diversity in almost every way than Seattle in my opinion.
@@ethanyin6488 if you earn in USD, like I do working remotely, houses in Vancouver are substantially cheaper than houses in Seattle. And cost of living is worse in Seattle. Relative cost is of course different from absolute cost.
Some day, not too far into the future, I would really like to have Mr. Beat compare Toronto, Montreal, Calgary, AND Vancouver. None of these aforementioned cities are so large, a la Mexico City or Shanghai, that doing this particular (4-way) matchup would be all that outlandish.
I mean, Seattle was willing to kill it's oldest mall (and possibly the oldest mall in the US) in five seconds for an NHL team, so yeah, why not squeeze another stadium in and bulldoze another bit of the history of the city. Fuck it.
Technically, the minimum wage in Vancouver is lower than Seattle because the CA dollar is weaker than the US dollar. As of 1/6/20, 13.85 CA dollars is equal to 10.68 US dollars
Vancouver is more of the business hub cosmopolitan hub and Seattle is the tech hub and music hub at least historically yes both cities are pretty expensive but Seattle is significantly cheaper although Vancouver is far more internationally recognized and gets much more tourism for a myriad of reasons
Seattle technically is more expensive but that’s if your a Canadian visiting but for Americans it’s expensive but cheaper than cities like San Francisco LA those places
Both had world's fairs , seattle was left with the space needle and a failed monorail system , vancouver was left with bc place stadium and expanding sky train system
Skytrain is prolly the best part imo. Bro if Houston and the rest of Texas actually manages to get HSR up before Cali, that would be the funniest shit, cus then the comparison between Surrey and Houston would be even closer.
Yea I'm from Vancouver and most long weekends my familly and I pop down to the exit 202 Seattle premium outlets. And yes, housing prices are almost suicidal. Sell a house in Vancouver and you my friend can get a street in Winnipeg.
Could part of the reason people head from Vancouver to the outlet malls is to avoid having to pay the additional 7-8% GST? PST is pretty similar to Washington sales tax if memory serves correctly. Bummer we can't visit each other's countries at the moment! I would often head up to a friendly Tim Horton's when the political scene down here got too crazy (almost weekly before the pandemic closed the border!). Looking forward to being able to get back to B.C. I love this regional 'neighborhood'!
@@rags2riches970 yep, I was born 5 years after they moved to Memphis and 2 years before the Sonics moved to OKC. Funny enough, I’m from Ottawa and Toronto is close by, so I’m a Raptors fan. But in my opinion, I think the Sonics’ move to OKC is the worst decision in NBA history.
Strangely, the admission at 5:31 during the advertisement was the most informative part of the video for me. As an avid (or rather, passionate) reader of classics, memoirs, letters, historic literature, etc, I have wondered oftentimes how many teachers have actually _read_ the texts they teach, or do they simply read extracts in textbooks that they in turn teach out of textbooks? And if so, how long has that been going on? (The first time this thought occurred to me was in reading _War and Peace_ , and being surprised how much of it, especially in the first couple hundred pages or so, was satirical, and often exhibiting a tongue-in-cheek humour. Reflecting how I had _never_ heard of that aspect of the novel, I began to wonder how many "experts" had actually _read_ the thing!)
Which two cities should I compare next?
I got Seattle's minimum wage wrong. Its minimum wage is $15 in general. Employers can only pay $12 if they contribute at least $3 for health care and tips, and $16.25 for large corporations.
A special thanks to Peter from the channel Stacks and Facts for reading over my script! Check out his channel: th-cam.com/channels/37J30wHpQOtc1vzuN6OdDA.html
Check out J.J. McCullough's Vancouver video: th-cam.com/video/a3SxUWbsPKw/w-d-xo.html
Freetown (Sierra Leone) and Monrovia (Liberia)
Maybe Plymouth (UK) and a significant American seaside city? Great video btw
@@naathan5897 I love that suggestion.
Edmonton and Calgary please
How about the Twin Cities, Minneapolis and St. Paul?
as a Dutchman it's funny to me that two cities that are almost as far apart as my country extends longitudinally are considered "close".
Yes + that Canada has only the double count of population than the netherlands
Neophyte hahahaha wtf I’m from Oaxaca, México and my state is more the double the size of netherlands 😂 hehe and for me we have little states compared with the states in the US 😂
@ Neophyte Maybe it should reunion De Nederlanden once again. Nahhh, still small,)
Maxim look at the twin cities
Haha that’s insane, I live in the state of São Paulo In Brazil and I took once 5 hours to cross the state. During my euro trip I took only 1 hour and half to cross the entire Netherlands. My fave country in the trip btw!
I was born in Vancouver. The few times I’ve been to Seattle, it’s felt like a parallel universe version of the same place.
Leonard Priestley I live in van aswell and thats how i feel whenever we long drive to seattle😂😂
Exactly!!!!
Play Waves the comment meant that the similarities that are there make it feel like your in the same place or a version of it, not that they are exactly the same..everyone knows that are not the same exactly, I have the same feeling about a few places where I live now compared to another city I used to live in..they are not exactly the same but close that it’s actually kind odd how similar they can be
It totally does omg
Well said
Coincidentally The distance between Seattle and Vancouver, BC is the same as the distance between Seattle and Vancouver, WA.
Which is a suburban city of portland, or, another major city in the pnw, 😂😂
which is in no way confusing for people who move to Seattle from out of state.
Seattle. The largest city between two Vancouvers on the BC-to-BC Highway (Interstate 5).
I live in Seattle. Once a while I'll have friends that are going to Vancouver. I don't even ask which one because I will just see from the photos. But if a friend ask if I want to go to vancouver with them, I always ask "BC?" to clear up the confusing. And ya its always been BC. I never been to Vancouver, WA.
@@spacefightertzz Yeah. sometimes i'll just ask "hollywood or meth?"
Seattle: America's Vancouver
Vancouver: Canada's Seattle
Toronto: Canada's New York City
Ottawa: Canada's Washington D.C
Montreal: I have no clue
Calgary and Edmonton: I have no clue either
Calgary and Edmonton I'd say is kind of like a smaller version of Dallas and Houston, since AB is like the TX of Canada lol
Hassan Abanur Montreal could be boston
Hassan Abanur mixed with philly architecture
Vancouver WA: America’s Vancouver BC
To make things even more confusing, I believe there's a Vancouver in Washington.
Michael Hurley there is
Which is a Portland suburb!
Yes, there is. Right next to Portland on the columbian border
Yeah I used to live there but it’s more a Portland, Oregon suburb than a Washington city.
There is also a Boring in Oregon. There are some funny names in Cascadia...
"Seattle is the Northernmost major city in the continental USA. The people there dress like it's Alaska. Vancouver is the warmest city year-round in Canada. The people there dress like it's California." - Douglas Coupland, or words to that effect.
didn't know they wear canada goose in cali .. lol
I live in Alaska and I am constantly in Seattle, they do not dress like it’s Alaska 😂.
All complaints must be addressed to Douglas Coupland.
So I'm thinking you haven't visited either.
I think the video is pretty representative. After living in both places. Style in Seattle: flannel, glasses, converse, grunge influenced, still stuck in the 90s. Vancouver: More European, more stylish, simple, hipster, and asian influences.
Lived in both. Currently in Seattle. Can confirm, the cities are both very similar and very different. I like them both, but do prefer Vancouver as it's a lot more walkable and a LOT cleaner.
And Vancouver has a smaller number of homeless people living on the streets.
Dario Pavlovic same here. I lived in both, currently in Seattle, but like Vancouver best.
@@fifermcgee5971 I wouldn't say that necessarily, I work in the Vancouver DTES and theres a LOT of vulnerable homeless people down there. Not the safest place to walk around imo
Hongcouver is a shithole and full of crackheads and heroin addicts
@@UFCMania155 you sir, are a complete, utter, primitive. Glad people like that don't inhabit Vancouver.
I'm japanese.
This is easy to listen and good listening practice.
英語がんばれー
japanese such a nice language
Bakayaro
You look a lot like my girlfriend.
@@PoochieCollins lucky
In Vancouver most of the waterfront is public park. In Seattle, most of the waterfront is private. You can walk around False Creek in Vancouver, quite a large distance. But you cannot walk around the perimeter of Lake Union in Seattle. The demolition of the Alaska Way Viaduct will help. But there will still be a large road along the waterfront to replace it in Seattle right next to the pedestrians which is not the case in Vancouver. A public waterfront is one of the features that makes walking in Vancouver more pleasant than walking in Seattle. I have lived years in both places.
i mean the lake union park, gas works and the park near sand point i forgot the name are not bad, but yeah there are more waterfront public space in Vancouver bc
Most architects and city planners in Canada are actually from Europe, where land use is at a premium everywhere, so you have to PLAN plan plan. American got sloppy, and even with the (obvious) example north didn't get it for decades. NOW Seattle, San Diego, are going high rise condo, land use, access to waterfront, but they're half a century behind. Arthur Erickson and the Bosa Bros., both based in Van. along with Jack Poole had to go south to show "how it's done".
Wow I didn't know beaches could be private? I've literally never heard of that.
@@joseaguilera9533 its no beach. Lake union like she said is a Lake not a waterfront. Even our downtown waterfront overlooks the puget sound and is not very walkable. You can go to the other side of Seattle, west Seattle and its extremely walkable. Plus there are beaches in West Seattle. I cannot accurately compare it to Vancouver but it looks like Stanley park but farther away and much much bigger. (from what Ive seen in the video)
I don’t think your going to the right places in Seattle but yeah Vancouver has more
Vancouverite, and I love Seattle too. Would be really really really really really cool if that high speed train thing happens to become a reality connecting our region. I think the Cascadia region could become a super-hub of tech and creative culture. Also it would be sweet if Seattle had an NHL team and we could get a good rivalry going on.
Well you got the hockey team wish!
Paul come look!
It would be cool if Seatle's NHL team was called The Seatle Kraken.lol..both cities miss their NBA teams
we do now the Seattle Kraken
No Canada is our enemy
Live in Bellingham so I'm smack dab in the middle and I've spent a lot of time in both places. My opinion on both:
Seattle: An amazing tourist town, awesome place to visit. The Space Needle, pikes place, Amazon building etc etc. One of the best tourist towns but it does get old after awhile and you do sort of run out of things to do. Great place to live if you're in software development as pay is almost as good as silicon valley but not nearly as expensive.
Vancouver: Not as good of a tourist city but grows on you over time. Like the person that's sort of boring at first but has a lot of depth. You will never run out of things to do. People are extremely friendly and also have that laid back west coast vibe going on.
Overall I love both cities but Vancouver wins for me :)
But we all know bellingham is the best (especially Fairhaven)
Love Bellingham. Vancouver used to be a laid back city back in the 80's. But since we felt the need to double the population, not so anymore. We must make sure all this scary overpopulation going on everywhere in the world, should be referred to as economic growth. That way no one notices.
Another plus for Vancouver, BC, the American dollar goes further.
@@fifermcgee5971 not really. Living right by the border its way cheaper to cross and shop in the states even with exchange canada is expensive and they have way more taxes
Disagree that Vancouver is not as good as a tourist city. It's one of the best.. downtown, 1hr + from Whistler, Ocean, hiking etc. The whole place is tourism!
"It's never too hot."
That didn't age well.
For real tho
ikr😩
I just went to Seattle like 8 days ago and the temperature was actually really nice, maybe I just got lucky
We don’t have ac In Seattle
(Or most)
@?????? I think it got up to like 108 degrees at one point a few weeks ago. People from Arizona might be used to that, but that’s insane for people in Seattle, and to make it worse, lot of people in Seattle don’t have AC because it’s not usually very hot outside.
Here’s two cities, Pyongyang and Minsk
Username still checks out.
How about Vladivostok instead of Minsk?
Why not pyongyang and ashgabat
Minsk is better than Pyongyang
A.k.a. Bad and Worse
I have lived in Vancouver for one month. Man did I go broke. I am living in Ottawa. It is not so exciting but lots more reasonable to live in. Yes Vancouver and Seattle are beautiful cites. British Columbia is called BC for a reason = Bring Cash and lots of it when you go there.
lol I've heard that, too. Bring Cash
Except there's more to BC than just Vancouver, and once you get away from the Vancouver metro area, the rural parts of BC tend to have inexpensive housing. (Cost of land is the biggest variable in housing cost, and there's a _lot_ of land to go around in rural BC.)
I live in Vancouver but I never carry cash lmao
There are more places in bc than just vancouver
Vancouver is only expensive for the cheap.
The different liquor laws affected our family. A 19 yr Seattle resident came to Vancouver for a beer, maybe two, and now we have to go to Seattle to see our daughter & grandchildren
hell na 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
And both cities are NOT the capital of their province or state.
Vancouver should very much be the capital but all be dammed if my I have to vote for Vancouver to be changed I’m voting to keep it where it is
@Jameson Dymond the nearby city of New Westminster was previously B.C.’s capital prior to the switch.
@@yechanchoi8580 Toronto is the capital of Ontario, but not Canada. Edmonton is the capital of Alberta.
Born and raised in NC but I take 1 annual trip to Seattle. The clouds and rain, the mountains, the water, it just feels like home. Sending love to the PNW.
Edmonton and Calgary would be interesting
I've been to Edmonton, but not Calgary yet. I do get that suggestion a lot.
Mr. Beat ohhh yes please please please do Edmonton and Calgary
@@iammrbeat Calgary is a super easy flight from Seatac
YES!
Edmonton is literally 100 times better. I lived in Edmonton for 6 years and lived in calgary for 12...and still do. There's nothing to do in this shithole city
Hi From Scotland I lived in Vancouver for 2.5 years and loved it!!! I visited Seattle several times and enjoyed it. At first glance I found the 2 cities very similar, but later started to notice the differences. Vancouver is much more like European cites, I noticed in Vancouver that people lived, worked and played in their city, the city centre was very busy in the evenings and weekend, like European cities. When I visited Seattle we tended to stay in hotels in the centre, but realised the city centre basically shut down in the evenings and weekends, and we had to get buses to other areas of the city to visit pubs, cafes, entertainment etc, which I found sad as there was some great places in the city centre we wanted to go to in the evenings but they were closed. This may have changed since 20 years ago, although I also lived in St Louis for 18 months and it was basically the same there, deserted city centre in the evenings and weekends, so seems to be a feature of big US cites. ...I don't know. I also found the food/ restaurants were much better, more varied and cheaper in Vancouver. Loved both cites, but if I had to choose, where to live again, i would pick Vancouver every time.
Nah. You didn’t go to Seattle. You never went to America even.
You couldn’t go to America due to you being too p00r.
whatever
Vancouver sounds like the better place to live where Seattle sounds like a better place to visit.
Yes. And yes.
Couldn’t agree more. Basically I have lived Seattle and loved it. However, 5 years and $10,000 in medical debt later (with good insurance) and they still won’t send me to a specialist without 2 more tests that I don’t have but it’s required..so I gave up cuz I can’t afford it. No point in falling in love if you just fall apart.
My friend with the same condition who married in Canada and moved to Vancouver misses the architecture and hills, but is much healthier and actually sends me some of their meds so I can feel better some days too. Wow kinda dark now that I look at the words.. no you definitely right.
Quite the opposite you would make more money working in tech or minimum wage in Seattle of course it's US dollar so you could visit Canada or anywhere else and the U.S. Dollar is always worth more. The minimum wage in BC will go up to $15 but that's only about $12.50 U.S. Pretty much everything is more expensive in Vancouver even with the dollar. Websites like Numbeo don't always give the full picture for cost of living u have to do your own research.
Vancouver doesn't really have that many large companies compared to Seattle, so it is harder to find good paying jobs. Vancouver has better architecture and scenery than Seattle does, so it would be a better place to visit. Additionally housing in downtown Vancouver is more expensive and it is harder to get around if you live outside the city itself or Richmond.
It is the opposite. Seattle offers better job opportunities and cheaper homes to buy or rent. Vancouver is more modern and sexy.
Seattle has WAAAAY more job opportunities. Canadian economy SUCKS --- coming from a Canadian.
The most ambitious crossover in history
and geography! hee hee
As a Vancouver native who is (unsurprisingly...) familiar with Seattle, the biggest difference I always feel is that Seattle is an integral part of the U.S.A., while Vancouver is its own little bubble largely alienated from the rest of Canada.
Seattle is a lot hotter in the summer.
Thanks for sharing that :D
Interesting to hear that perspective, as an American from the north east who has been to Seattle, I feel totally differently... Seattle always feels like a strange alternate universe version of America. It's in my experience a very separate place....crazy to think Vancouver is even more separate from her home country!
From having been to both places (and living in Montreal, spending quite a bit of time in the US Northeast and Ohio, and having been to much of Canada), I could indeed attest that Vancouver is utterly different from the rest of Canada and is in its own little corner along with Victoria and Vancouver Island. And yes, Seattle does feel quite a bit different from the eastern US - even the vernacular residential architecture in the Pacific Northwest is different from the Northeast and Midwest.
@@liamtahaney713 I grew up in the Midwest and now live in Portland but visit Seattle and Vancouver frequently. Definitely agree that Seattle feels very different from the east coast, but it feels fairly similar to the rest of the west coast (I also lived in LA and have family in SF). I haven't been elsewhere in Canada, so hard for me to say if it feels different form the rest of the country
@@liamtahaney713 To be fair, the entire Western seaboard feels different from the East Coast. Completely different culture generally speaking.
If you want to work, go to Seattle. If you want to live, go to Vancouver.
Washington is actually the best state to live in out of all 50 states
Good ol' Nexus never fails us, even through a pandemic.
What if you want to do both??
@@MrBlackCoffee96 Like I said, get a Nexus pass. Live in Vancouver, and since you'd be regular crosser, get Nexus express pass to avoid long border waits, work in Seattle, and return home using Nexus again.
There is a lot of work in Vancouver .-.
1 great thing both seattle and vancouver can both be proud of is Jimmy Hendrix, though he was born in Seattle his father and his father's family is from vancouverbc, Jimmy spent lots of time when he was young with his grandparents in Vancouver
London can be proud of its links to Jimmy too.
From what I’ve heard... it almost seems like Seattleites think Vancouver is bigger and fancier, and vancouverites seem to think Seattle is bigger and fancier 😂
Vancouver certainly seems bigger, not sure about fancier but that is probably just because it seems more contained whereas Seattle area is more spread out. Here you don't really hit country until after tacoma, everett, and redmond (or issaquah) so the sudden density of humans doesn't hit you as hard as when you go to Vancouver.
Curtis B
North once you pass marysville. Pretty country til you hit Bellingham
Once you get pass olympia. Thats country til you get to the other Vancouver
Giraffe Juice I’m from Vancouver and I think Seattle is a shit hole, lol.
Giraffe Juice| It’s not a shithole until you visit east hastings
@Giraffe Juice Then your either a liar or dillusional
I was born in Vancouver but live in Seattle. The cities are substantially similar except there is far more business in Seattle (10 fortune 500 companies are headquartered there) than in Vancouver (zero). Also there is more a focus in Seattle on the water (people regularly have boats) whereas Vancouverites usually look to the mountains (Whistler)
Exactly. Vancouver is a resort, not a real city. There's the obscenely rich; the ones serving them, who can barely afford rent with roommates (or live in a van); and there's the homeless addicts who are offered free drugs by the government, instead of help. Seattle on the other hand has some serious industry and more well-paid jobs.
@sallybrite1530 Are you sure about that Son?
No. You still live in Vancouver.
Edit your comment to say “But live in Vancover” and not “Seattle”.
You can’t be in the US due to you being waaaaaaaay too p00r.
As someone that lives near Seattle, I can say that the last few years (since 2018 maybe?) we've had unreasonable amounts of snow. Like, I know people that got very close to a foot of snow in a day and a half. And that's been the case every time we get snow for the last 3 or 4 years. One year the snow stayed on the ground for a whole ass month.
Also live in Seattle but am from Spokane. Reading this I wanna say “suck it up, buttercup” so bad, but yeah I feel ya there. The roads here get horrible when the snow sticks and it sucks.
Working for a tow truck company that has locations in both Spokane and Seattle: Spokane gets more snow for sure, but when Seattle snows, all hell breaks loose!
@@BMXICANx462 yuuup. Even if there's just a freeze, all hell breaks loose. We had a really cold week back in February, and it got down to close to 15 Fahrenheit in the morning. Just sirens constant for an hour from first responders going to accidents. Even the road by my house was just COVERED in black ice
@@Sp00kq I think remember that week!
@@BMXICANx462 i remember what happened in 2017, good times
Easier to walk around in Vancouver as Seattle is hilly.
Ed Childs yep not many fat people in Seattle
And it’s not chopped in half by a major freeway
The traffic in Vancouver is a lot better than Seattle. Our transportation is like 50 years behind down here.
If you get tired of walking around Seattle, you can always lean against it.
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What Vancouver citizen goes all the way down to Seattle for stores like costco or target? I can tell you for certain most stop in my hometown, Bellingham, for that? Any Canadian from the Vancouver area who crosses the border knows about Bellingham.
Yes! I live in Seattle and had a friend that lived in Bellingham, and we weren't aware of this fact. We went to Costco just to pick up a couple things and it was PACKED with people who had carts that were PACKED with pretty much everything! We were like um........
just go to Burnaby for Costco lmao
And Trader Joe's & Best Buy in Bellingham--
Best Buy, 3 blocks from me in Vancouver. ( BC not Wa )
Costco, right beside BC Place stadium in Vancouver.
The differences shrink between Canada and the US constantly. It is pretty obvious that the only ones that seem destined to remain are the Universal Health Care and Federal Government systems.
yup been there done that
Funny thing is I’m from Vancouver and watching this in Seattle.
Ken Lompart
for the vibes and scene definitely Seattle
food definitely Vancouver
Ahah. Beautiful city in the north west.👍
I lived in Seattle for 10 years and in Vancouver for 20 years both, and there are a few more differences that strike me. First, Vancouver has done a much job of reserving ocean shorelines for everyone by creating parks all over the waterfront. Second, Vancouver feels like a bigger city when you walk around in it. Third, Seattle has far more fresh water swimming access because of Lake Washington. Fourth, Vancouver drivers seem more polite. And fifth, Seattle has a significant Black population while Vancouver has a large minority who have emigrated from India. Both are delightful cities, and I love them both.
seattle metro has tons of indians as well
@@harry12 Thanks to Tech companies!
Love Seattle. One of the greatest cities in the US. Educated, urban, most beautiful landscape in the country, tons of high paying jobs, we have some of the most important companies in the world... the list goes on and on. It’s just awesome.
Which is why it's so freaking expensive, unfortunately.
Mr. Beat True, although incomes are really high here. 90K/year is considered fairly middle-low salary.
You need to make $150k a year to really enjoy all Seattle has to offer.
@@salishseas Depends what you mean by "enjoy all Seattle has to offer", but in general you can live comfortably with half that.
@@iammrbeat So much water equals not much land, so high prices for building lots, alas.
Awesome video! As a Vancouverite and also a follower of this channel for about a year now, it makes me happy to see you cover my home city. There’s a few things about Vancouver you could’ve touched on a bit more detail on though - we’ve also hosted Expo 86 which showcased the site of the worlds first driverless metro system in what is now the SkyTrain (part of our public transit, although it’s pretty outdated compared to other systems). The Waterfront area (Canada Place, Convention Centre) is also a great place to visit for tourists. Also, Grouse is pronounced with an “ow” sound... but other than that, very happy to see this.
Thanks for the comment and for following my channel! Everyone I have ever met from Vancouver was ridiculously nice. :)
@@iammrbeat we are the city where bus rider say "thank you" to the bus driver when we get off the bus. I tried that in San Fran and people thought I was from another planet.
In Vancouver we don't we don't hook our horn in traffic as it's considered extremely rude and is only used in emergency The only people who do are considered a,,h,,e s or tourists , Traffic flows with a Zen order ,,,,odd but true !
Vancouver also has an NHL and CFL team while Seattle doesn't. But Seattle has a MLB and NFL team and Vancouver doesn't. But both cities have MLS teams.
I thought about mentioning this. :)
Seattle will get an NHL team.
@@waifubreaks1572 yep they start in the '21-22 season
John Parks NBA teams Seattle SuperSonics & Vancouver Grizzlies...they both couldn’t keep their NBA teams. At least they both have something to talk about at the dinner table lolz
MLS is all that matters in the Pacific Northwest...hope NHL can get big in both.
Vancouver is my absolute dream place to move to from the UK. IMO its the most beautiful part of the world
I moved here myself from the Canadian prairies, many years ago, and I've never regretted it. I'd never live anywhere else. English Bay, the mountains, Stanley Park, cultures and cuisine from all over the world.... It's an expensive city, especially real estate -- but if you've ever walked down Beach Avenue on a sunny July afternoon, you know what heaven looks like.
@@steves3460 I hate hot weather, don't mind the rain, and love forests and mountains. So to me SoCal is just a desert
@@steves3460 Actually san diego isn't hot ! It's has mild weather all year around , kinda like Vancouver but obviously warmer and a lot less rain .
@@steves3460 lol San Diego is 60s in the winter and 70s in the summer. (For the most part) I live there. I am in Seattle for the next month though
@@fuhrfhrei3441 San Diego is so nice. Especially Coronado Beach. I get why people like the Pacific Northwest but it’s way too gloomy, wet, and cold most of the year for my liking.
Another thing we have in common: both better than Portland
Bryce Johnson yep
Why
I mean you have good point
*laughs in my $900/mo 1br rent controlled apartment in downtown Portland. * HAHAHAHAHAHA
Portland is an insufferable landfill.
Correction, cold, dark and rainy is my favourite winter weather so definitely recommend these months if that's your kinda thing.
haha love that weather!!! but only when im home rather than travelling.
thats why i live here
You wouldn't like that weather where a warm place with well air conditioner is not available , or if you are homeless , I like cold too but not in my place with no air conditioner because it's too expensive and not common in my country , it don't get very cold and it's just 2 to 3 month per year cold
So I have to wear socks , double blankets , wash my hands with warm watter wear a lot of clothes even inside the house
@@Marco-jm1mo Of course! When heating is not available, definitely not recommended. The comment was written with the idea that heating is available or means of being able to get warm were available.
@@wimbletone I know , but I said that because I have that idea of people in Canada in general or Seatle or any Northern American city or any cold place in the world are just used to cold weatger , even I see girls wearing skirts under the rain , so I have tgat idea of peopls are just use ti cild unlike me , so automatically it's easy for them even without air conditioners to live in cold or just stay outside and chilling with out shaking in their boots ... while my country that has sun almost the whole year , it's just now , from the middle of November probablly till the middle of Juanary , the cold will be gone , but I like cold and I want to live in it most if the time , I adore rain , I like cold dark streets and cozy warm nights but I'm affraid I won't like it anymore and can't get use to it and forced to live with it in a long period of time if I ever travel or move to Canada or scandinavia or the US because I'm going to one of these in the next 4 to 5 years , but I fear from cold because while I'm typing this comment my naked hands are freezing
I know that in the US I can move to another warmer state , it's easy , but I don't thnik so it's the same thing in Sweeden where my gf is or Canada of I ever move to it because of work
Vancouver 300 days of "meh" weather. 65 days of weather that feels like God kissed the sky. Just stunning.
Respectfully🇨🇦.
An insult and a compliment all wrapped up into one pretty comment. Now that's stunning
hit the nail on the head
100% true. And we all pay out the nose to enjoy those 65 days
Especially when it’s going to be sunny for 9 days in a row 🇨🇦🇨🇦
@Darren Gregg And who says paradise has to be tropical? But you're right, the original comment isn't a true "insult" upon further review
And now, Seattle has an NHL team with the Kraken set to play next year. In the same division as the Vancouver Canucks. So that should make for an interesting rivalry for Northwest Hockey.
This was great. I'm a Seattleite looking to relocate. I've been a Portland resident (and loved it) and spent time in Vancouver (and loved it). One thing not addressed here that I've noticed and would love to see discussed somewhere: the Seattle Freeze isn't replicated in Vancouver (or Portland) in my experience or, from what I can tell, most people's. I've found Seattle VERY difficult to connect with, in terms of finding friends, and that was not my experience in Portland; Vancouver seems to be as friendly as most Canadians are rumored to be. I made more friends in two weekends in Vancouver than I've made here in Seattle in five years! If there's anything I'd fix about Seattle, it's the icy professional sheen most people have here, and the expensive healthcare. I'm not alone in that, if the Seattle Times is accurate; a lot of people seem to leave here because they find it as lonely as I have. Seems like both issues will change if I head up north a bit, but I'd love to see someone address it directly.
Have been in Seattle about the same amount of time as you (at least you from 8 months ago...). At this point my conclusion has been that its the stress and time suck of working at places like Amazon and Microsoft on people's mental health. These places deliver a lot of good things to the world, but it comes at a price. For a lot of people that "icy professional sheen" is merely all they can do, to hide the just-trying-not-to-drown that's happening underneath.
Charlotte and Atlanta would be a great comparison. Both large southern cities only about 4 hours away from each other
I can dig that.
OMG MR BEAT REPLIED TO MY COMMENT!!! My life is complete 🎉🎉🎉😁
Charlotte May have more money thanks to that gold rush, but here in Raleigh we got culture.
@@travix9580 What do you mean by "culture"? Doesn't every city have its own culture?
or Atlanta Vs Miami, the capitals of the Southeast.
JJ in a Mr. Beat video? We live in a awesome timeline
It's weird that we didn't collaborate sooner!
@@iammrbeat I agree!
I thought I wouldn't live to see the day
2019: We live in an awesome timeline
2020: I'm bout to do what's called a pro gamer move
Best thing Vancouver city ever did was to not build ugly, noisy, barrier, gridlock freeways!
Also, Vancouver hosted the 1986 world exposition, and has one of North America's largest Chinatowns, which is also a huge tourist draw along with Lonsdale Quay/Shipyards, False Creek, Commercial Drive Yaletown, and Queen Elizabeth Park to name just a few.
Also the SkyTrain in Vancouver is one the of the best transit experiences in the US and Canada. It is so much better than Seattle’s Link light rail. Seattle should’ve modeled their transit after the SkyTrain.
@@eriklakeland3857 unfortunately translink (the company that manages skytrain and other transit in vancouver) is currently underfunded so we don't have as much skytrain as we should
I call Seattle “American Vancouver”.
ArcticoFolf So weird cause I call Vancouver “Canadian Seattle”
There's literally an place in the u.s. called "VANCOUVER WASHINGTON"
@lilCipher doritos “Wow! I never knew another city was named after the same person!”
*You don’t say.*
I call Vancouver Canada's Auckland -- If anyone has been to New Zealand.
Vancouver BC is more beautiful and much cleaner.
Great video! Well researched, and informative. As a Seattlite, I've always felt Vancouver (as well as Portland) have a lot in common. Though one of our local hobbies it to talk about how bad/good each other's (fill in the blank) is. Its more sibling squabbles - we are all connected and related as a region. Thanks!
I've lived in both cities. Fun to watch this comparison. Both visually stunning. Both now too expensive, especially for housing. By the way, it's Grouse like house Mt, not like goose. It was recently discovered that Seattle and Western Washington are long overdue for a mega-earthquake even worse than the ones they are waiting for in California. So glad I lived there, not going back.
as someone who has lived in Olympia, Bellingham, and Seattle. Literally no one calls it Cascadia except businesses as a marketing scheme.
facts
Very true
Not rlly. IN the MLS they call this area cascadia too theres a cup for it every year called the cascadia cup
@@jakecortez4795 Oh Sivan.. you understand that that is marketing right? That the MLS is a company marketing an event that they named?
@@Thompame The mls is leauge not a company lmao
EL PASO🇺🇸 and CIUDAD JUAREZ 🇲🇽
Very interesting your channel, greetings from Sao Paulo 🇧🇷
Great suggestion! Did you happen to catch my Sao Paulo/Rio de Janeiro video?
@@iammrbeat yes really nice job your video of Rio and sp
I am from Ciudad Juárez. Both cities are very different, especially in size, but at the same time they are very interconnected culturally and commercially speaking.
El Paso is the opposite of Ciudad Juarez !
Detroit and windsor plz
You should compare Minneapolis to Winnipeg. The Midwest version of this comparison.
Yeah I live in Fargo ND right between these cities and would love to see this
At one time they probably would of been more similar, but Minneapolis is huge now and continues to grow in population and attracts alot of people, but no one in Canada wants to move to WINTERPEG, because its so damn cold...colder than the Minneapolis area
@@zochbuppet448 Don't think it has to do with it being cold so much as it has to be with it just not being an interesting city in modern times. At one point it was an important city in so many ways, but now what is there? It also has one of the higher crime rates of any large Canadian city, no? Most people would choose to live in Edmonton over Winnipeg, both cold.
@@j2174 I was joking about the winter, obviously its more than that.
Obviously its more isolated but the provincial governments are terrible at economics and managing small and medium sized cities. All they know to do is throw more money at what already works, large cities like Toronto
@@zochbuppet448 actually, I don't think that's why no one moves there. Winnipeg is practically the worst city in Canada lol.
Edit: I just read your last comment. I definitely agree although apparently they also have some massive issues with the natives so that's also a big factor
I lived in Seattle for three years. I miss it, my wife and I might move back to the PNW but we couldn’t afford Seattle. If you don’t make a tech worker salary there it is hard to afford. Seattle has really changed from 2000 to 2010s.
Daniel Domogala
You know there are great cities outside of the Seattle area with affordable housing.
I've made it work on a salary of $26k. It's hard though because there's a culture of spending money here - expensive restaurants are way more normal than I'm used to, for example - that hasn't been the case in other cities (most of which had an artistic underclass that I'm used to hanging with - those guys can stretch a dime). But if you find a small place outside the center of the city, and you cook at home, and you keep most things in walking distance, you should be fine. Just don't buy things you don't need.
@@HOTPLATEGAMING how far outside, I live 25 miles north in Mukilteo, housing prices are still crazy, you have to go to Marysville or Monroe to find decent prices in the north and good luck in the south sound
@@sleepingdogpro a starter family home, 2 bedrooms and 1 bathroom, in any immediate suburb will cost you at least 500k if it isn’t a complete project
Hey, that’s me in the kayak at :54! What a fun surprise.
Then I don’t know if you’ll understand what I’m talking about, but the boat port right near the kayak shot is actually in Kirkland, not Seattle! It doesn’t make much difference, but I just wanted to point it out.
@@minibagels yes! Off Carillon Point!
“Grouse” is pronounced like “out” or “ouch”, not “groose”.
ha ha! i think he was assuming the canadian accent. can't fault him really
@@chito2294 from my experience Seattle and Vancouver have basically the same accent. Except how we say vancouver.
@@chito2294 even with a Canadian accent we don't say "groose"
@@chito2294 THE Canadian accent? We have many and the one you're referring to is on the other side of the country.
@@chito2294 Well to any Canadian, he sounded ridiculous
Very good video! Some small corrections:
Washington state minimum wage is $12, but in Seattle city limits it's $15. Seems like you'd want to make that distinction.
Grouse Mountain is pronounced like "mouse", not "moose"
Maybe more emphasis on the public transport, it's waaaay better in Vancouver 😉
Yeah I messed up that. It's really disheartening that I can't seem to make it through an entire video without making one mistake. Being a one-man show, it can be difficult to get it all 100% right. I did have three different people read over the script, but apparently all three people missed that. When I can someday afford it, one of the first jobs I will hire out to is a fact checker.
@@iammrbeat also Vancouver is $10.52 an hour American. Seattle has a much higher minimum than Vancouver.
The minimum wage for companies with 500+ employees is actually $16/hr in Seattle now, as well...
Tony Almatti
No it’s not. Still $15
@@iammrbeat All three people reading your script had to be smoking something.
Both cities lost their NBA teams and should get their teams back!!! Grizzlies and SuperSonics🔥
ya get tax payers to build a new arena for it too?
yess bring back our grizzlies even tho they were terrible we want a team
@@WackyWorkshopWonders Seattle arena already being built for the NHL, so it just needs a team
Sonics coming back real soon I expect due to all the rumblings I'm hearing and I hope it happens at a time when Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook can leave their respective and reunite for the team where Kevin Durant played in his rookie year and the team where Russell Westbrook was drafted to!!! Also hopefully the Grizzlies go back to Vancouver since Memphis such a boring and drab ass city tbh and Vancouver is a superior city
Seattle has a ridiculous amount of homeless people here too. There are multiple ‘tent cities’ here
Hey So does Vancouver Rock City. lol it’s my city I was born there. I enjoyed both cities. I got trashed at a punk show hosted by Duff Mckagan & Krist Novoselic.
So does Miami
Every city does.
@@za6765 yeah but on the West Coast it seems beyond normal
Seattle was the first city I visited in the States, and I was flabbergasted. It seemed to be a dream. It reminded me a little bit of Europe. Some neighbourhoods reminded me of London, actually. But then I started seeing dozens and dozens homeless people and beggars. They were everywhere. That was as if someone had thrown a cold glass of water on my face. The USA spends millions in building up an image of a superpower modern democracy, but the truth is that there’s a high percentage of their people living in extreme poverty.
North 🇨🇦Vancouver - Seattle🇺🇸
South 🇺🇸San Diego - Tijuana 🇲🇽
:v
Detroit Windsor , El Paso
ciudad Juarez
yes you are right juan i've been in seattle san diego and tijuana but not vancouver
But San Diego ain’t dangerous Tijuana wild like the city I grew up in in Detroit tho they crazy over there in Tijuana man like my boys in Detroit🤪 even my current city of Houston ain’t as wild as Tijuana tho lol and we wild here too so San Diego ain’t comparable in that sense tbh
@Edd Glassus Tijuana it's poor, O understand in good mood
Except Vancouver and Seattle are almost 3 hours away from each other. San Diego and Tijuana are Right on the border.
I live in seattle. Thanks for talking about my city.
No problem. It's a wonderful place!
311
Isn't going to happen.
Mr. Beat I live in Seattle too, I would also like to say thank you for doing this video!
My brother lives there, I try and visit once a year. I usually come in Nov and it's still good weather. Like despite it being cold, it's still sunny.
Seattle is so damn beautiful.
The North Shore mountains in Vancouver are part of the Coast Mountains, not the Cascades! The two ranges are separated by the Fraser River, which flows past the southern boundary of Vancouver proper. That said, the Cascades are very close and Mt. Baker is an impressive sight in the southern skyline on a clear sunny day.
Love the video, but it’s pronounced “Gr-ao-se” mountain. With the same sound you would say if you stubbed your toe: “OW!!”. Named after a very stupid bird that is hunted very easily.
Is your nickname 'grouse'?
Groose 😃
When I was a teenager we used to drive around the woods in a truck looking for grouse, jump out, then shoot them. It was really that easy. There was a spot on the trial we called "killer grouse corner" where one would fly up to the truck and try to attack us through the window. It was the craziest thing, Im guessing it was a mother or something. We left that one alone.
ya you got to think aboot it as plural not a single bird, like goose and geese
finally
Another similarity: Expo '62 World's Fair in Seattle and Expo '86 World's Fair in Vancouver.
Vancouver hosted the Winter Olympics, the only other Canadian city to do so besides Calgary- yeah we got that first
One of the better reasons to live in either Seattle or Vancouver is that when your sick of one city/country you can take a short travel to the latter and be in a totally different but similar place...
I’ve been to both city last Spring Break. I liked Vancouver much more. I felt it’s more homey and safe. I loved it.
because Canada 🇨🇦
“Safe”. I went there once in my life and my car got broken into, they stole a lot of records, my passport paperwork, they broke both the drivers and passengers windows, and snapped the neck of the pet canary in my car. This was at a Costco, which has a pretty good reputation here in the US
@@2hot4u97 There are still fucked up junkies looking to steal to get their fix. Never leave anything important or visible inside your car.
@UCqehTzvsLqFAXrYDeAVmGFQ @UCqehTzvsLqFAXrYDeAVmGFQ lived there for 14 years never felt unsafe. Never had a car broken into or anything even leaving my car unlocked with a computer visible. Sometimes some idiot decides like ruining someone's day, sounds like you got unlucky. Sorry that happened to you
@@2hot4u97 there is tons of petty crime like that in Vancouver (having your bike stolen or window smashed is a right of passage), but almost no violent crime especially compared to any American city. sorry about your bird though, that's really heartbreaking, poor canary :(
I love Vancouver!! When i was in the Navy, my ship visited there in AUG 1987. We visited Seattle in AUG 1988.
Other than butchering the pronunciation of “Grouse” mountain, loved the video !
-Friendly neighbourhood Vancouver local
Visited both of these cities this summer... both were cool but Seattle was more interesting imo
JJ: Aroond
Me: this is why us Canadians are stereotyped, stop plz nobody pronounces it like that
@@StillDontKnow8 It's just weird because he says he is from Vancouver but I have lived in Vancouver my entire life and he is the only "vancouverite" that I have ever heard pronounce around like that.
@@philipvargas478 I always figured he must be from out east and came to van later in life. Its pretty rare to hear that inflection in the van area.
@@JungleScene well i thought so too but he said that he was born an raised in Vancouver so I dont know
Yeah I've never met anyone say "aroond" or "aboot" in Vancouver or anywhere in the Canadian west coast
You guys say 'out' funny (oot). Wassup with that??
Love these comparisons. This is what was missing on TH-cam. And you filled the void!
Vancouver is full of nice people. That’s one of the reasons why I really enjoy going up there. I live between both cities and I feel at home in either one.
Thanks for the video, Mr. Beat!! Speaking as a Canadian who's been to Vancouver several times (my family used to live out there), I honestly think you could've picked a better ambassador for the city than JJ. Much of his perspective leans in the direction of envying the US and the American system, and it comes across in his description of Vancouver and their activities relating to Seattle. Instead of being a solid representatives of all the awesome things unique to see and do in the city of Vancouver, his perspective seemed to be envying all the "big, important" things in Seattle without supporting the Home team. I didn't really feel his perspective to be representative of most Vancouverites I've met and talked to, including my family who lived there. So take his perspective with a grain of salt; it doesn't necessarily reflect how a lot of people from Vancouver feel about Seattle or even Canada's relationship with the USA more broadly. Keep up the good content in general!
gmbrusselsprout so does that mean most vancouverites hate Seattle or America?
@@KanyeTheGayFish69 Hate is an overly negative spin on this. More in the realm of, "We don't rely on the US as much as JJ makes it out." Plenty of people like going south of the border, but for things like fast food it's a bit of a stretch, especially for things like Chick-Fil-A. First of all, Vancouver has some AMAZING fried chicken (shoutout to Fried Chicken Works!!) and second of all, Canada is veryyyyy pro-LGBTQ and especially in Vancouver. When Chick-Fil-A opened up in Toronto, which like Vancouver is a big and Lberal-leaning city, there was a wide-scale Boycott because of their homophobic policies and stances of the owners. Not a lot of Vancouverites would be willing to spend a lot of money to go South of the Border for a restaurant most of them intrinsically dislike and see as objectionable.
gmbrusselsprout I’m sure most Seattle people see the Chick-fil-A thing as bad too
@@iammrbeat Thanks, I'm glad that you took those steps! Keep producing great content, and never stop asking questions/looking at other perspectives everyone!! :D
It’s tough to speak on behalf of a whole city. I’m from Vancouver too and I don’t really disagree with JJ’s take. Seems as valid as any other. I’m gay as well, and am not bothered in the least by Chick fil-a. Live and let live.
Incidentally, I like Seattle quite a lot. A beautiful city.
Wow. I am Canadian and have never heard anyone say 'aroond'. My mind is blown.
Same guy says aboot in another video aboot milk in bags. I always told my American friends that Canadians don't say aboot. I had to take it back. There is one.
I know you are talkin aboot!!
I don’t know why but I started to laugh when Mr Beat said “folks immediately started sticking their chewing gum on the wall again.” I guess it was the way he said it! Also at the very end where he said "it feels like you're in a whole other country, because you are." I love these kind of videos with the comedic undertone. It makes the video fun to watch.
Keep up the great videos!
But it was funny that how people still after the wall is cleaned want to make it dirty
4:18 “arooned” = around
I don't know why I ever left Seattle, so beautiful up there, and more opportunities than my original city of Jacksonville
Better move back to Seattle but you can move to Vancouver BC instead if you want.
I've visited Seattle for a week. decided to hop over to Vancouver to see what it's like for 2 days. I'd say Vancouver's a little better but then I got my rented-car towed over some stupid parking violation, so I'm gonna say Seattle's better out of spite. (they're both still pretty similar though). plus Seattle has the Starbucks Reserve - which was one of my favorite things when visiting
Vancouver is not "a little better." It's substantially better.
As a Canadian, we never refer to BC as the PNW. Probably because it's south of most of our cities and everywhere is north up here lol. It wasn't until I moved down to the states that I ever heard the term. Also it's cute that people think Seattle/Vancouver is cold during the winter
You didn’t move to the US. You’re still in Canada.
Edit your comment to say “Provinces” and NOT “States”.
You can’t move to the US due to being waaaaaaaay too p00r.
@@anonymoususer8895 Bro are you schizo or what
Marseille vs Naples
Glasgow vs Edinburgh
Anvers vs Rotterdam
Milan vs Turin
Genève vs Zürich
11:41 I just found it hilarious how he promounced Grouse Mountain as Groose mountain instead of gr”ow”se mountain
Would love to see more videos comparing bordering cities (or neighboring cities in different countries as it may technically)! Tons of others to do between the US-Canada border and around the world. Personally I’d love to see one comparing Kinshasa and Brazzaville.
Vancouver is absolutely beautiful. Anyone who hadn’t been there, go.
This video is awesome. I was surprised how fast you glanced over the fact that there's a colossal highway slicing Seattle in half, while Vancouver has no highways at all! For me, a Vancouverite who visits Seattle, that is the standout difference.
Traffic is a pain in Vancouver, stop and go and electric cars.
@@beekeepermariadelgado6806 Get rid of cars altogether.
“America bad cuz it has infrastructure” f*ck off Canadian, you have the same infrastructure.
I live in Seattle currently, but I'm trying to move to Vancouver (waiting for my application to be approved) and after spending lots of time in both cities, I would say the biggest difference is the "Seattle Freeze" isn't as prevalent in Vancouver. People tend to be a lot more polite and willing to strike up conversation than in Seattle.
People can be aloof and socially distant over here as well. Colder than a December morning they can be, I tell ya.
YES!!!!!!! This has ben my experience too. The only people who deny that the Seattle Freeze exists are the natives, and holy fuck are they the unfriendliest people of them all. I've made friends, but it's been harder here than anywhere else I've lived by a mile, and anytime I bring it up with someone they start with "yeah I lived here for 10/15/20 years before I finally broke through." Dude I don't have that kind of time. I made more friends in a few days in Vancouver than I have with half a decade of really trying here. It's exhausting.
@@lionelhutz5137 Dude, you have no idea. Seattle is unlike any city I've experienced in that regard except maybe San Fransisco. There are aloof people everywhere but the Seattle Freeze is a phrase for a reason. I can and have made friends in New York, LA, Atlanta, Charlottesville, Portland, and several small towns. I cannot, for the fuckin life of me, make any real friends in Seattle (unless it's people who give up and move away because THEY can't make friends either). There's a reason the Seattle Times talks about the Seattle Freeze almost every week. It is normal here to have waitresses and gas station attendants and grocery store people and therapists and business acquaintances and people you just generally share interests with to ALL be aloof and distant and more than a little scornful and sarcastic and cold. It's awful. I had a friend a year ago joke that he had a rude waitress for the first time in New York and it made him homesick for Seattle and several of us were like "yup, that's exactly what it's like here." Distant, sarcastic rudeness is the norm and I hate it.
I’ve never experienced Seattle freeze at all. It really depends on your personality, as a Seattleleite, people have been nice and friendly to me all the time. If you’re an introvert and anti-social of course people won’t talk to you. Depends on perspective and personality really...
@@sleepingdogpro I've lived in Seattle all my life and I've never thought people were rude here
It’s pronounced “Grouse” like the bird.
Right. I noticed that too.
I was looking for this comment ^^
My heart beats faster when arriving in Vancouver.. seeing those logs down the river while arriving in the airplane makes my heart sing!
Great video! I'm glad you mentioned that Vancouver is more 'important' to its country than Seattle is. Vancouver has hosted the Winter Olympics in 2010 the World Expo in 1986. It gets more federal money and national attention than Seattle does and that makes a difference in the look and feel of the city. Also, historically, Vancouver has had a significant hippie/lefty culture. In this way, it's more similar to San Francisco than Seattle. For example, Greenpeace was founded in Vancouver in the 1960s. Over the years, many people from all over Canada have migrated to Vancouver to enjoy a more relaxed, lifestyle-oriented vibe. For example, I meet a lot of people from Toronto and Calgary who say they "escaped" those cities because they were too stuffy or conservative.
Good points. The 60s counterculture in Van benifited a lot from Vietnam war draft dodgers from the US, I would add.
@@robertkraljii5048 We elected a few to office and one ended up VP for Mac Bloedel. There's actually one STILL HERE in Grand Forks in a Dukabour colony, and my gal friend knows him!! BUT NO, they didn't have much of an actual "impact' like European migration or the Brits, who keep coming and taking all the good jobs.
The Pride parade and gay community is the second/third largest in N. America. !! Most who came from the East stopped at the water and stayed!!
@@robertkraljii5048 The "Big O" on Van.'s north short was their hangout, but like Expo 86 they brought up a LOT of drug dealing and found out fast the cops were pretty mellow about it. Unfortunately, that meant cocaine, followed by heroin and fentynal. Not all good. Until the Russians took over briefly and later Red Scorpion, and then the Big Circle Boys, who were are are deadly. BCB have always been around, but got real nasty once China got into Van. in big numbers.
I agree that Vancouver is a lot more like San Francisco than it is like Seattle. When I lived in San Francisco (for 12 years), I spent almost every August in Vancouver. I would sometimes also visit Seattle, but I felt much more at home and welcome in Vancouver. In Vancouver, people thought I lived there, but in Seattle, the first thing people would ask me was "Where are YOU from?". This was in the 1970s and 1980s, and Seattle was not very sophisticated back then, whereas Vancouver was. The music in Vancouver was much better than in Seattle as well and was similar to music in San Francisco. A lot of the fashion in Vancouver at that time came directly from London, bypassing New York completely, whereas Seattle still had the lumberjack look, which I never got into.
Oklahoma City and Tulsa compared?
Somebody else commented underneath this video the same suggestion!
Tulsa? LOL. That's no comparison to OKC.
My comment just got 4 likes
*Sad Brazilian noises*
Cleveland / Columbus / Cincinnati (OH) would be interesting too.
Seatle and Vancouver 2 countries ,,,2 cultures like Dubli n and London ,,same climate ,,,, same attitude towards Washington D.C. and Ottawa
Seattle is about to experience a space boom. Starlink sats from SpaceX, Blue Origin is also based there too.
FYI: when describing Vancouver as having the Straight of Georgia to the west, the video actually shows Burrard Inlet which separates Vancouver from North Vancouver. This is easily confirmed by the Seabus crossing in the clip.
Did he actually write Straight, not Strait? Too funny!
Seattle, Portland and Vancouver, cities so alike that Vancouver doubles for Seattle and Portland without any set dressing. (The fire department I live near, all they did was put some cars with Portland plates outside it.)
the film shoot I did had garbage dumped off, so it looked like an American alley way. (except Lynden, wa.)
Vancouver fast food must be pretty bad if your friend comes to Seattle to eat at Jack in the Box.
That's what I was thinking. lol I hate that place.
And their grocery stores if they're driving down to Seattle just to shop at Fred Meyer.
In Vancouver there are just less options. In America, there are dozens of fast food places, while in Vancouver there are about 10 or so depending what you call a fast food chain.
Sometimes we’ll drive to the Seattle area just for Chick-Fil-A or Trader Joe’s.
Vancouver is nicer in natural beauty, but I think Seattle is more liveable because there is actually industry there. Real estate is the main driver of the Vancouver economy, thereby pricing out the average Vancouverite.
You have to put yourself in their shoes. People always want what they can't have. I've traveled to countries where families literally went to KFC to eat as an occasion. Like it was a big deal. But in the U.S. KFC conjures up a nauseating feeling for I and many others.
IMO Vancouver has better food quality up there. Talking more about restaurants and not fast food.
I live in Portland, have visited both Seattle and Vancouver countless times. Love both for different reasons, but Vancouver definitely has more diversity in almost every way than Seattle in my opinion.
I decide to move to Seattle. The house price in Vancouver is insane.
@@ethanyin6488 if you earn in USD, like I do working remotely, houses in Vancouver are substantially cheaper than houses in Seattle. And cost of living is worse in Seattle. Relative cost is of course different from absolute cost.
Some day, not too far into the future, I would really like to have Mr. Beat compare Toronto, Montreal, Calgary, AND Vancouver. None of these aforementioned cities are so large, a la Mexico City or Shanghai, that doing this particular (4-way) matchup would be all that outlandish.
Both cities were robbed of an NBA team.
Memphis and Oklahoma City
You guys will never let that go huh 🙄
I mean, Seattle was willing to kill it's oldest mall (and possibly the oldest mall in the US) in five seconds for an NHL team, so yeah, why not squeeze another stadium in and bulldoze another bit of the history of the city. Fuck it.
Technically, the minimum wage in Vancouver is lower than Seattle because the CA dollar is weaker than the US dollar. As of 1/6/20, 13.85 CA dollars is equal to 10.68 US dollars
He may have taken that into account.
Vancouver is more of the business hub cosmopolitan hub and Seattle is the tech hub and music hub at least historically yes both cities are pretty expensive but Seattle is significantly cheaper although Vancouver is far more internationally recognized and gets much more tourism for a myriad of reasons
Seattle technically is more expensive but that’s if your a Canadian visiting but for Americans it’s expensive but cheaper than cities like San Francisco LA those places
That part when everything went quiet I laughed lol
Both had world's fairs , seattle was left with the space needle and a failed monorail system , vancouver was left with bc place stadium and expanding sky train system
Skytrain is prolly the best part imo.
Bro if Houston and the rest of Texas actually manages to get HSR up before Cali, that would be the funniest shit, cus then the comparison between Surrey and Houston would be even closer.
Been to both, Vancouver is way better than Seattle no comparison
Thats wacist im offended
For a tourist or to live in?
Eumin Kong yes I would choose Vancouver
Seattle is beatiful !
Roger Peralta your right
but the thing is vancouver is more expensive to live in
and the only reason people go to seattle for shopping it fir the outlet malls
Yea I'm from Vancouver and most long weekends my familly and I pop down to the exit 202 Seattle premium outlets. And yes, housing prices are almost suicidal. Sell a house in Vancouver and you my friend can get a street in Winnipeg.
Could part of the reason people head from Vancouver to the outlet malls is to avoid having to pay the additional 7-8% GST? PST is pretty similar to Washington sales tax if memory serves correctly. Bummer we can't visit each other's countries at the moment! I would often head up to a friendly Tim Horton's when the political scene down here got too crazy (almost weekly before the pandemic closed the border!). Looking forward to being able to get back to B.C. I love this regional 'neighborhood'!
Another thing is both Seattle and Vancouver had NBA teams that moved away ☹️
At least it was exciting watching the Sonics unlike my horrible Grizzlies
Dave Nguyen Man i wasnt even born yet when they grizzlies was still in Van. I didnt miss out on anythin tho considerin they were straight trash lol
@@rags2riches970 yep, I was born 5 years after they moved to Memphis and 2 years before the Sonics moved to OKC. Funny enough, I’m from Ottawa and Toronto is close by, so I’m a Raptors fan. But in my opinion, I think the Sonics’ move to OKC is the worst decision in NBA history.
oh yeah i remember the sonics
Forced away.
Strangely, the admission at 5:31 during the advertisement was the most informative part of the video for me. As an avid (or rather, passionate) reader of classics, memoirs, letters, historic literature, etc, I have wondered oftentimes how many teachers have actually _read_ the texts they teach, or do they simply read extracts in textbooks that they in turn teach out of textbooks? And if so, how long has that been going on? (The first time this thought occurred to me was in reading _War and Peace_ , and being surprised how much of it, especially in the first couple hundred pages or so, was satirical, and often exhibiting a tongue-in-cheek humour. Reflecting how I had _never_ heard of that aspect of the novel, I began to wonder how many "experts" had actually _read_ the thing!)