It really is a copy of Iowa. Everything but the upgrades is the same. Interesting for me to see how American BB's are without their special accuracy mod, but probably not worth the cost. There are so many other better/unique ships to spend money on right now.
@@j_taylorthis, the damn thing was added a couple patches ago and most people just recently got it NJ will come, just not for awhile, my best guess would be late next year, back half of the year
I hope if they ever add the New Jersey, she would come ith her original round bridge. Would make her a bit diferent from the others, even though its just the looks.
@@BigD321 Iowa was realeased in 2013, Missouri was released in 2016, Winsconsin in 2024... my guess is more like 2037 for a NJ release lmao (or when the game will be truly dying, as a last resort)
@@matsab7930 Only if you play her wrong. She's a long range slinger that can leeroy jenkins once per match decently effectively. She has the range and speed to casually reposition while constantly dealing damage, and is excellent for ensuring all big ships that would stomp her are forever burning and forever unable to deal with her. When the heavy hitters are out, she can rush in and smaller ships that are victims to her cannot easily deal with her due to her maneuverability, speed, shell volume, and radar. It comes down to big speed, farm big ships at range. big ships dead? get close and be a menace.
@@williamturner7131 I guess. I just find it extremely boring to sling he from half the map away, especially when you have such floaty shells. I love pushing in with her when the game goes late, but the early-mid game is boring in her imo.
Whisky was worth it to me to finish as I spent all that time and effort, and since I didn't have Virginia 44 so getting both ships was great for me. Whisky is helping me aim better at longer distances (my biggest problem) with it's cruiser dispersion. :)
@@jaysonnunley6602 nope, bajie doesnt have japanese vertical dispersion like you met in tech tree and some premium ships. comparison in 20km bajie vertical is 163 meanwhile izumo, hizen, iwami and adatara has 170+. Well she is still "bad" in vertical compared to standards BBs (standard bbs around 150-160). Bajie gun has same treatment with musashi, horizontal same with japanese (better than standard) but the vertical is better (musashi 160 and bajie 163 in 20km) but better in sigma however worst in reload
@@lotarrrrr +50% is standard for t10 special ships even special bonus package for tech tree (that you buy for 4k doubloon) has same credits gain, the reason why t10 is "bad" for credit farming because its way more expensive than the service of t9
Xuanwu stands for 玄武，one of the four heavenly spirits in ancient Chinese mythology, Xuanwu is a spiritual creature composed of a turtle and a snake. It also means the direction of north
China has no real history with their own naval ships, but Chinese people have lots of money to spend. so to get some of that money, they make these fake Chinese ships in hopes of selling a lot of them.
you have to remember that Iowa is more closely related to a battle cruiser. It is a battleship, but its a "fast battleship". Lightly armored, relatively, and very quick. Kinda like a battle cruiser. I personally believe that if the Iowa and a South Dakota ship went toe to toe, the Sodak would win just because of its better armor. This is in real life of course.
The Sodaks and Iowas have functionally the same armour scheme with the same immunity zones against the 16/45cal firing the Mk 5. This was reduced somewhat by the Mk 8 fired by that same gun, and even moreso by the 16/50cals of the Iowas firing the Mk 8. So realistically, Iowa is going to have a wider immunity zone than Sodak and the speed to dictate the range of engagement. So the advantage lies firmly with Iowa.
@@Thraxus please correct me if I'm wrong, but it is my understanding that the game does not portray the armor correctly as compared to real life. The bow plating on the Iowas is 26mm as opposed to the 32mm presented in game. The South Dakotas had actual 32mm bow and stern plating. I am basing this off of Ryan from Battleship New Jersey. He has said the bow plating was 26mm numerous times. The Iowas' armor was based on the armor of the Sodaks, particularly their All or Nothing scheme. However, with the bow and stern much longer, they sacrificed further armor to gain more buoyancy. I will readily admit I am not a scholar of the US Battleships to near a degree that many are, I am basing off of what I've heard and come to understand. Both the Iowas and the Sodaks were far better armored than the North Carolina battleships, both classes were powerhouses in the war, I simply feel the Sodaks armor was superior to the Iowas
@cerneysmallengines I was referring to IRL rather than in game. I'm not entirely sure as the specifics of bow and stern on both ships and that's largely because in the context of the all or nothing arrangement, its largely irrelevant. And realistically, in any meaningful engagement, 6mm of armour difference wouldn't make really any impact, there's no magical universal thresholds for autobounce when it comes to naval combat and both ships Ideally will want to be fighting broadside anyway. And with the all or nothing scheme, the ships are generally designed to be able to keep fighting even with their bow and stern having been pulverised. It's citadel and deck protection that matters most of all in this fight, and they both have the same 12in inclined belt, the same 6in main deck in effectively, the same layout. All of that extra tonnage of Iowa got devoted to speed. It makes sense because the Iowas, in the design we see, were essentially upsized sodaks that could reach the 33kn speed minimum of the "fast" battleship requirement put out by the US navy, after attempts to design from the ground up resulted in ships that were either too compromised or too far overtonnage, the US navy was still working within the 45000t treaty limits of the escalator clause with their design.
Some of the earlier iowa preliminary designs could definitely be called battlecruisers though. There was one with a belt that could protect up to heavy cruiser guns, in return for something crazy like 35kn of speed. Of course this was abandoned because really, the primary class of ship the Iowas were intended to counter were the Kongos. There was a lot of concern that the fast congos could penetrate past the existing slow battle line and wreck havoc on cruisers or carriers. The slower much more heavily armed and armoured Montana's were the intended response to Japan's heavier battlefleet. Though of course, war broke out and the carrier proved itself more valuable than any battleship so the Montanas were cancelled and the Iowas only rushed through because of their ability to server as fast carrier escorts
This is just another ship in the tradition of Pan-Asian copypasta premiums based on other nations' tech tree ships. In the same vein as Wukong and Bajie, which have been in the game for over four years.
The US BB line has a special dispersion mod for the 6th mod slot, which improves dispersion as a choice along with a reload mod, but because they have acces to that you dont get an main battery accuracy in the 3rd slot. A double dispersion buff would be unfair, so you only get one in a different slot, which is still a better choice then a reload mod.
Well, of the 4 fully competed Iowa we have 3 of them, missing New Jersey. There was also 2 patricianly completed hulls, Illinois and Kentucky, we have Illinois, so we have 4 of the 6 real Iowa’s Then theres Delaware which is completely made up and this thing. You could Head-canon this thing to being “Kentucky if it somehow got sold to a foreign county had it been completed”, so we *technically* have 5 of the 6 real Iowas, but that is with having that head-canon in mind. I expect New Jersey to be added at some point, and hopefully we dont get any Iowa hulls afterwords, I love the Iowas but I dont want more abominations like Delaware.
just to be clear... I'm just curious.. you're a gun junkie.. just look at your Yodo... I GET... BBs is your thing... but.. even just you looking at them is SOMETHING for me...
sorry.. that was douchie.. I just mean.. you SAY.. it's a boring game.. just sitting back torping... well... ? man up and spot for the team? (big talk from me the coward)
i have Karl 14th and its really good for random, why? Just spam HE, i met lot of t11 and always on top 3 bxp even lose, my average damage is 110k ish by spamming HE so its good for random. Dont build secondary
It looks nice. I hope it won't insult any patriot, as a promotion of glorified history in well camouflaged reskin for big Asian/Chinese/whole world buyers makes Iowas almost as well known than only Bismarck and Yamato. /I got Bajie from some lucky 3 Kingdoms containers from one of prev BP (prem Izumo with 25km base gun range, slightly worse reload but probably better accuracy /not sure/) and it feels well (great, yeah) in current ranked. Inability to have Yamamoto Isoroku on the ship doesn't hurt personal experience with ship, Sa Che Ping there does ok. Some matches dissapointed, the ship not. ❤ (sorry Izumo not Iowa, I had to speak out about another old T9 tree BB. I really wish Rhode Island for ingame resources to everyone. That ship is really funny, unforgiving, but its guns and other features are cool. I got Wisconsin but didn't play it yet.
$60? You could be arrested for burglary at that price. At release, looks like 36,336 dubs for the bundle on my end, which is a *cough-cough* 20% discount, which is $144 US.
If you want to try something absolutely B U S T E D, then try a full secondary build on Arkansas Beta if you've got one. You basically get a 6km no DD zone around you :D
PQ! Play the Chikuma because a.) you never have b.) it was one of these FOMO ships c.) you can press *all* the buttons! d.) I have one and set a personal cruiser damage record in it (This is like attempt #7 or 8?)
In terms of straight across US->CA dollars, the US dollar is stronger. In terms of the average americans buying power with those dollars, it is a lot less.
The Iowa armor scheme is so awful. It limits your freedom of movement so much. Imho that makes the Wisconsin so much better. The Big Whiskey can get away with some stupid moves, because the citadel is so much lower. These "all or nothing" armor schemes are bad all around. When you just want to play a casual game it sucks to be caught out in the open and having bad rudder shift, so you can't really dodge any incoming shells.
@izaiahdatu7794 I love how these fools complain about realism but they end up having a non historical ship in their dock as well and one they play alot
Xuan Wu: What happens when you give an American ship to another line. Suddenly its ok to give it all the stuff that would make US Ships actually good. Like, give WV44 to another tech tree, suddenly, ill bet giving it 38mm deck armor so it doesnt melt to fire wouldnt be OP then....
Wow this game is bad, and the developers lazy AF at this point. Can't even make a totally fake ship for China. Instead they just copy paste most of it from an Iowa, and then tweak some stats.
It really is a copy of Iowa. Everything but the upgrades is the same. Interesting for me to see how American BB's are without their special accuracy mod, but probably not worth the cost. There are so many other better/unique ships to spend money on right now.
Instead of this, why not just complete the set of Iowas and add the USS New Jersey
They just added Wisconsin.
Because they need to milk the history nerds
@@j_taylorthis, the damn thing was added a couple patches ago and most people just recently got it
NJ will come, just not for awhile, my best guess would be late next year, back half of the year
I hope if they ever add the New Jersey, she would come ith her original round bridge. Would make her a bit diferent from the others, even though its just the looks.
@@BigD321 Iowa was realeased in 2013, Missouri was released in 2016, Winsconsin in 2024... my guess is more like 2037 for a NJ release lmao (or when the game will be truly dying, as a last resort)
the Rhode Island re release pisses me off they need to make her available for in game resources like every other t10 premium
It's too OP for regular release, its basically tier 12.
Nu uh@@ReDiR20
@@ReDiR20really? It’s a complete damage sponge.
@@matsab7930 Only if you play her wrong. She's a long range slinger that can leeroy jenkins once per match decently effectively. She has the range and speed to casually reposition while constantly dealing damage, and is excellent for ensuring all big ships that would stomp her are forever burning and forever unable to deal with her.
When the heavy hitters are out, she can rush in and smaller ships that are victims to her cannot easily deal with her due to her maneuverability, speed, shell volume, and radar.
It comes down to big speed, farm big ships at range.
big ships dead? get close and be a menace.
@@williamturner7131 I guess. I just find it extremely boring to sling he from half the map away, especially when you have such floaty shells. I love pushing in with her when the game goes late, but the early-mid game is boring in her imo.
L I T E R A L H E R E S Y
Fair winds me boys. Interesting looking ship! Hope everyone has a good day, including you PQ!
PQ - those shells are INSANELY FAST compared to an Iowa.
4% difference + a solid 2% on vertical from the range mod so in reality it’s around that 6% dispersion range
Whisky was worth it to me to finish as I spent all that time and effort, and since I didn't have Virginia 44 so getting both ships was great for me. Whisky is helping me aim better at longer distances (my biggest problem) with it's cruiser dispersion. :)
the best on this ship is the camo, it looks like a house of the dragon´s black side ship and i like it a lot
yeahy It looks pretty good :D
Xuan Wu 玄武 translated in English is Black Tortoise
Maybe when they release a Chinease Vermont that can cut that 40s reload down then buying it might be something worth considering
We need to see your thoughts on Alabama
Sweet home Alabama
I just got this ship from a random summer fest drop I think. Is it any good? Iowa seems better so far
I think X is pronounced as SH in Chinese. Like Xi is pronounced like She/Shi.
Is this thing on par with Missouri on credit earning? On the other hand, does this thing make more credit than Iowa with premium package?
Baije vs Xuan Wu. Which one would you choose?
xuan wu even though the bajie for some bs reason gets better accuracy than izumo
bajie, way faster shells velocity and smaller superstructure is better than xuan wu
@@eiresby2344 youre forgetting about the Japanese bad vertical dispersion though
@@jaysonnunley6602 nope, bajie doesnt have japanese vertical dispersion like you met in tech tree and some premium ships. comparison in 20km bajie vertical is 163 meanwhile izumo, hizen, iwami and adatara has 170+.
Well she is still "bad" in vertical compared to standards BBs (standard bbs around 150-160). Bajie gun has same treatment with musashi, horizontal same with japanese (better than standard) but the vertical is better (musashi 160 and bajie 163 in 20km) but better in sigma however worst in reload
Speaking of credit farming, neustra is an absolute CHAD at credits.
Ohio also. easy ship to play and +50% credits...
nah, still same with others T9 and this iowa, no improved for her
@@lotarrrrr +50% is standard for t10 special ships even special bonus package for tech tree (that you buy for 4k doubloon) has same credits gain, the reason why t10 is "bad" for credit farming because its way more expensive than the service of t9
wait, you can actually detonate destroyer with AP??
I literally just got this thing in a box. I dont even know what I did to get the box. So bloody random.
Xuanwu stands for 玄武，one of the four heavenly spirits in ancient Chinese mythology, Xuanwu is a spiritual creature composed of a turtle and a snake. It also means the direction of north
as i remember my chinese language study back then its pronounce shuen wu or shuon wu (depends on the person dialect)
Too bad. PQ has declared it to be pronounced John Woo 😆
@@Frigidblood john woo better
Did they run out of historical ships? Or this just normal laziness?
China has no real history with their own naval ships, but Chinese people have lots of money to spend. so to get some of that money, they make these fake Chinese ships in hopes of selling a lot of them.
you have to remember that Iowa is more closely related to a battle cruiser. It is a battleship, but its a "fast battleship". Lightly armored, relatively, and very quick. Kinda like a battle cruiser. I personally believe that if the Iowa and a South Dakota ship went toe to toe, the Sodak would win just because of its better armor. This is in real life of course.
The Sodaks and Iowas have functionally the same armour scheme with the same immunity zones against the 16/45cal firing the Mk 5. This was reduced somewhat by the Mk 8 fired by that same gun, and even moreso by the 16/50cals of the Iowas firing the Mk 8.
So realistically, Iowa is going to have a wider immunity zone than Sodak and the speed to dictate the range of engagement. So the advantage lies firmly with Iowa.
@@Thraxus please correct me if I'm wrong, but it is my understanding that the game does not portray the armor correctly as compared to real life.
The bow plating on the Iowas is 26mm as opposed to the 32mm presented in game. The South Dakotas had actual 32mm bow and stern plating. I am basing this off of Ryan from Battleship New Jersey. He has said the bow plating was 26mm numerous times.
The Iowas' armor was based on the armor of the Sodaks, particularly their All or Nothing scheme. However, with the bow and stern much longer, they sacrificed further armor to gain more buoyancy.
I will readily admit I am not a scholar of the US Battleships to near a degree that many are, I am basing off of what I've heard and come to understand. Both the Iowas and the Sodaks were far better armored than the North Carolina battleships, both classes were powerhouses in the war, I simply feel the Sodaks armor was superior to the Iowas
@cerneysmallengines I was referring to IRL rather than in game.
I'm not entirely sure as the specifics of bow and stern on both ships and that's largely because in the context of the all or nothing arrangement, its largely irrelevant. And realistically, in any meaningful engagement, 6mm of armour difference wouldn't make really any impact, there's no magical universal thresholds for autobounce when it comes to naval combat and both ships Ideally will want to be fighting broadside anyway. And with the all or nothing scheme, the ships are generally designed to be able to keep fighting even with their bow and stern having been pulverised.
It's citadel and deck protection that matters most of all in this fight, and they both have the same 12in inclined belt, the same 6in main deck in effectively, the same layout. All of that extra tonnage of Iowa got devoted to speed.
It makes sense because the Iowas, in the design we see, were essentially upsized sodaks that could reach the 33kn speed minimum of the "fast" battleship requirement put out by the US navy, after attempts to design from the ground up resulted in ships that were either too compromised or too far overtonnage, the US navy was still working within the 45000t treaty limits of the escalator clause with their design.
Some of the earlier iowa preliminary designs could definitely be called battlecruisers though. There was one with a belt that could protect up to heavy cruiser guns, in return for something crazy like 35kn of speed. Of course this was abandoned because really, the primary class of ship the Iowas were intended to counter were the Kongos. There was a lot of concern that the fast congos could penetrate past the existing slow battle line and wreck havoc on cruisers or carriers.
The slower much more heavily armed and armoured Montana's were the intended response to Japan's heavier battlefleet. Though of course, war broke out and the carrier proved itself more valuable than any battleship so the Montanas were cancelled and the Iowas only rushed through because of their ability to server as fast carrier escorts
What the... Wait so if Wargaming just making random ships now?
This is just another ship in the tradition of Pan-Asian copypasta premiums based on other nations' tech tree ships. In the same vein as Wukong and Bajie, which have been in the game for over four years.
Always have, at least a third of the tech tree are paper ships.
No human is gonna notice a 4% difference in dispersion.
Are you a game developer? how did you managed to get this ship this early?
dollar store Iowa
You can't take the accuracy mod in slot 3. It isn't offered. About the boat... why would I want to use a subpar Iowa???
You can on this ship. Were you not paying attention?
13:44 i think it does
Why couldn't you just put hte slot 3 dispersion and then reload mods on a USN Iowa?
because USN BB line cannot slot dispersion mod in slot 3.
The US BB line has a special dispersion mod for the 6th mod slot, which improves dispersion as a choice along with a reload mod, but because they have acces to that you dont get an main battery accuracy in the 3rd slot.
A double dispersion buff would be unfair, so you only get one in a different slot, which is still a better choice then a reload mod.
Star trek co lab, worm hole map!
Please do borodino !
That poor dd that got detonated
How many iowa clone or hybrid ships with this will be realeased
Well, of the 4 fully competed Iowa we have 3 of them, missing New Jersey. There was also 2 patricianly completed hulls, Illinois and Kentucky, we have Illinois, so we have 4 of the 6 real Iowa’s
Then theres Delaware which is completely made up and this thing. You could Head-canon this thing to being “Kentucky if it somehow got sold to a foreign county had it been completed”, so we *technically* have 5 of the 6 real Iowas, but that is with having that head-canon in mind.
I expect New Jersey to be added at some point, and hopefully we dont get any Iowa hulls afterwords, I love the Iowas but I dont want more abominations like Delaware.
The enemies team 4501 user name.....Skadooshbag. Hilarious.
If it truely is just a Kidd... Pass... Unless it has DW torps, or the skills from the PA Captains may shine more?
just to be clear... I'm just curious.. you're a gun junkie.. just look at your Yodo... I GET... BBs is your thing... but.. even just you looking at them is SOMETHING for me...
sorry.. that was douchie.. I just mean.. you SAY.. it's a boring game.. just sitting back torping... well... ? man up and spot for the team? (big talk from me the coward)
as for the K14... I think BETTER in randos... in brawls you lose the whole point of the conceal for the cruiser.. sorry... BB
i have Karl 14th and its really good for random, why? Just spam HE, i met lot of t11 and always on top 3 bxp even lose, my average damage is 110k ish by spamming HE so its good for random. Dont build secondary
about that pronunciation, it's more like shuan wu, at least if it's mandarin that it derived from
I enjoy your laugh 😂😂😂
I love you potato
These videos genuinely take my mind off everything else, which for me is a huge thing! Thank you
Day 12 of asking PQ to play the finest Russian BB admiral ushakov with meme lord kuznetsov
What’s this trend of bugging people everything until they do what you ask?
@@drink15 ship request duh
@@jaxmathews4835 you have to request it everyday and track how many times you asked?
@@drink15 This trend was started by the worchester guy and it is has proven that it's effective.
@@jaxmathews4835 Everyday asking for the same ship and counting each day?
It looks nice. I hope it won't insult any patriot, as a promotion of glorified history in well camouflaged reskin for big Asian/Chinese/whole world buyers makes Iowas almost as well known than only Bismarck and Yamato.
/I got Bajie from some lucky 3 Kingdoms containers from one of prev BP (prem Izumo with 25km base gun range, slightly worse reload but probably better accuracy /not sure/) and it feels well (great, yeah) in current ranked.
Inability to have Yamamoto Isoroku on the ship doesn't hurt personal experience with ship, Sa Che Ping there does ok. Some matches dissapointed, the ship not. ❤
(sorry Izumo not Iowa, I had to speak out about another old T9 tree BB.
I really wish Rhode Island for ingame resources to everyone.
That ship is really funny, unforgiving, but its guns and other features are cool.
I got Wisconsin but didn't play it yet.
Imagine paying $60 for a worse iowa.
$60? You could be arrested for burglary at that price. At release, looks like 36,336 dubs for the bundle on my end, which is a *cough-cough* 20% discount, which is $144 US.
@@billcrisp1804i literally just got this thing in some random box. I just reinstalled the game today.
Boom!
If you want to try something absolutely B U S T E D, then try a full secondary build on Arkansas Beta if you've got one. You basically get a 6km no DD zone around you :D
My name is Xuan, so I need this ship.😂
It’s pronounced like shwen. I’m Chinese so I think that is the right pronunciation.
Why in the H would I pay 60 to 100 for this Iowa copycat when I have Iowa ! No thanks. Great vid though 👍
PQ! Play the Chikuma because a.) you never have b.) it was one of these FOMO ships c.) you can press *all* the buttons! d.) I have one and set a personal cruiser damage record in it (This is like attempt #7 or 8?)
In terms of straight across US->CA dollars, the US dollar is stronger. In terms of the average americans buying power with those dollars, it is a lot less.
The Iowa armor scheme is so awful. It limits your freedom of movement so much. Imho that makes the Wisconsin so much better. The Big Whiskey can get away with some stupid moves, because the citadel is so much lower. These "all or nothing" armor schemes are bad all around. When you just want to play a casual game it sucks to be caught out in the open and having bad rudder shift, so you can't really dodge any incoming shells.
Johnston is going to my favorite ever… I hope don’t fuck this up wow
Why buy this ship when we can have the Iowa for free?
IOWA on TEEMU 😂
Day 1 of asking PQ to play the T 7 Dutch cruiser Eendracht.
I see he still thinks ripple fire will improve his chances of getting good hits;D Conformation bias is strong
I just realized it was pronounced the "John Wu..."
wege.. ok boys! lets go copy paste from now on.
*cough cough* its literally New Jersey
A lazy copy and made up ship, not an atom of realism. Might as well make a Ugandan CV
Captain Alex as captain
John Bird's Idi Amin comedy routine 'Gunboat Dipperlomacy" is pure gold.
Play war thunder then bro
@izaiahdatu7794 I love how these fools complain about realism but they end up having a non historical ship in their dock as well and one they play alot
@@b-17gflyingfortress6 😂
Asking PQ to play Georgia
Uuuuuu
I honestly find it a con and lazy effort from Wows to clone ships.
Day 41 of asking PQ to play on Helena
Xuan Wu: What happens when you give an American ship to another line. Suddenly its ok to give it all the stuff that would make US Ships actually good.
Like, give WV44 to another tech tree, suddenly, ill bet giving it 38mm deck armor so it doesnt melt to fire wouldnt be OP then....
And the Chinese would have an Iowa class why ?
in an alternate universe, the incomplete Kentucky hull was sold to China to be transformed into a casino.
@@xuansu9036 lol ! They did that to one of their ships for real . But it failed
Because they are the masters of bootlegs IRL, makes sense they get all the clone ships!😂
Wow this game is bad, and the developers lazy AF at this point. Can't even make a totally fake ship for China. Instead they just copy paste most of it from an Iowa, and then tweak some stats.
yooooo its in my username