I wish this continued on a little bit like How Batman met Hawkgirl before the Justice league, I really like Mr Wing and Straightman I wish they could have used them much earlier especially Mr Wing I think he would give the Justice League a run for their money, but there are things that add up and it just raises more questions.
I'd serious love to see this series lead into a Batman Beyond prequel explaining how the black and red suit was created as well as what happened in the events leading up to Bruce's retirement in Rebirth. I really feel that The Adventure Continues was a great continuation to BTAS / TNBA in terms of addressing what happened to Jason Todd in the DCAU and bringing in Deathstroke & Azrael was a stroke of genius
@@SerumLake so would i, i would like it to be at least 6 parts or maybe 7 showing us the caped beyond suit and how it evolved into the one that we know as well as address what happened to everyone. I think that's the way to go to really help finally bridge the 20 year gap between both shows
That would make sense considering what happens in Season 3. A woman working for Hugo Strange steals a prototype suit from WayneTech that gives her superhuman strength and is equipped with hidden weapons. I believe that suit is a precursor to the Batsuit worn by Terry Mcguinis in Batman Beyond. The biggest clue to this is that the woman wearing the stolen prototype is immobilized by a remote feature that Barbara discovered. In part 2 of the Batman Beyond pilot, after Bruce learns that Terry broke into the Batcave and stole the suit, he contacts Terri and demands that he returns it. When Terri refuses, Bruce hits a button that activates the suit's fail-safe mechanism, paralyzing the suit in the event it was to be worn by the wrong person.
I had my ups and downs with this series, but I was glad to see some B:TAS-style tales still being told. I felt it was getting better as it went along. Dini and Burnett mentioned they wanted to do a graphic novel/one-shot following up on the ending with Slade and Jason, and I'd be intrigued to see that followed up on.
Your editing is top notch. Wish your channel had more exposure. Thanks for elucidating this amazing piece of Batman Animated Media. It's always fun to see stories that could have been animated had Beyond not been created.
In the case of Deathstroke referencing 9/11, I think it can be chalked up to the story carrying over from the 90’s and into the 2000’s not necessarily the present, and the same goes for cell phones, as Batman has elements of sci fi, so I could certainly see touch screen devices and other present day electronics becoming available to the public earlier than they did in our world. As for HBO MAX, well, we all know the real explanation is product placement.
The main reason I haven’t read this series yet is because of the monstrous list of older comics I’ve been going through including the original tie in comics
Yes, I would read them too. Funnily enough, Mark Millar wrote a bunch of Superman Adventures as one of his first American comics jobs. I remember them being enjoyable stories, but damned if I can remember any specifics 😂
@@jacktoma21It stands well on its own. Why is it everyone put down Superman in any media? Because he isn't bat-god. I am sick of Batman getting put on a bloody pedestal
3:40 Similar to how in the Arkham games Jason was never mentioned in Asylum and City yet in Knight the Joker hallucination suddenly starts mentioning him, there are 3 flashbacks to Joker torturing him in the asylum and he ends up being the Arkham Knight.
Personaly I drop the adventures continue and all other DCAU media outside of the shows into "Beta Cannon". This is a terrm used by the startrek fandom, in combination with the term alpha cannon. Alpha cannon is mainline stuff of the IPs primary medium that all fits neatly into the same timeline, so for trek and the DCAU the TV shows and movies. Beta cannon is side stuff that is in the same universe but isnt as solidly cannon, stuff like comics and novels. Its a really nice way to allow yourself to enjoy everything the DCAU has to offer without getting in a huge mess about stuff that doesnt make sense.
Ha, I didn't Nora died like that. To think, the Adventures comic writers went out of their way to write BTAS stories that gave agency and personality to Nora, just for Dini and Burnett to swoop in and re-fridge her.
With the recent MCU Multiverse movies I just view these Comics as an adjacent universe bringing in Jason Todd and having him and his origin play out just ruins Tim Drake and Batman beyond return of the Joker for me
Jazzman? more like...Zsaszman (that was intended to be bad wordplay but worked far better than I imagined...not to say it's good...just better than I imagined)
I read a little of Season One. It's alright, I suppose. As someone who dislikes TNBA and doesn't much care for how Batman was handled overall in the post-BTAS DCAU, I just don't have much investment in these stories.
Jason Todd's inclusion in the DCAU doesn't work because of ROTJ (and Beyond as a whole.) Drake *absolutely* would have mentioned him during his speech to McGinnis, and Barbara...well frankly literally at any point to Old Bruce when she found out about Terry. Yeah, the forest for the trees, but his inclusion in the DCAU *really* screws with Beyond. I can't get over that, and I don't care who's writing.
Never read or even heard about the comic, but I'll note that just because the Author's might be the same isn't justification to support it. To put it in perspective I'd be happy if 'Joe Blow' magically appeared to make a new animated BTAS series that say reflects on an aging Batman. If Joe Blow does a good enough job in honoring the legacy of what has been produced and giving something interesting while doing so, I'm good with that; even if not a single person who had previously worked on it had contributed anything to the new work.
Never been able to read these but a few adventures look pretty cool. I'm personally jazzed to see characters like Slade. Jazzman is an interesting take, to say the least. And did I see False Face in there?!
Have you considered doing a video about the viewing order of BTAS episodes? I'm very much in the mind there is a better way to watch the series than the established episode order.
Tbh, I'm fine with set timelines. It depends on the story and all. As... some are *kinda* dependent on it. Like how many chutulu stories are set in the 1920's. Like, wouldn't have the same effect if we were walking around today's Harlam.
During the flashback of adventures continue season 1, we see Jason todd and Batman clash with Firefly. With that in mind, is it correct to assume that Firefly's debut episode torch song takes place before sins of the father (tnba episode 2)? Side note, congrats on this amazing channel and can't wait to see what else you have in store.
Yeah, the BTAS and TNBA episodes were told out of order, for the most part. I think it’s safe to assume that any TNBA episode that didn’t feature Robin took place before Tim Drake joined the team. In my mind Mad Love took place when Dick Grayson was Robin
@@SerumLake dude thankyou so much. My brain has been doing backflips over this trying to figure things out. The only other time this happened was back when I used to play the kingdom hearts games. Anyway congrats again on this channel.
Honestly, there are a few things stopping me from reading adventures continues. The art is not very good. It is not terrible, but compared to his work from the original tie-ins, Ty Templeton's art on continues is weaker and not as polished. Also, I am not a fan of Slade and Red Hood popping up. The fact that they were included just to promote toys makes their inclusion even worse. Slade is not even a Batman rogue he is a teen titans rogue! And Jason Todd just mucks up my personal head canon for the BTAS universe. It felt like they added these characters because of their popularity. I was not a fan of Hill being connected to the court of owls. In my opinion, it ruins the character of Mayor Hill. He was one of the few politicians in gotham who was not corrupt. And do not get me started on Waller and the Suicide Squad popping up in s3. The creators missed several opportunities with Adventures continues: The DCAU debut of Killer Moth An issue focused on James Gordon and his relationship with Bullock The return of Maxie Zeus and Firefly The continuation of the Riddler subplot from Batman gotham Adventures A team up story with Batman and The Spectre Now, if anyone likes The Adventures, continues that is fine, but I am not interested in reading it. Honestly, I wish DC would green lit similar continuations of other DCAU spinn off comics for Superman TAS, JL, AND Static Shock. Batman already has 5 comics based on his animated series, so why can't the DCAU version of Superman receive a similar revival.
Am afraid that this video didn't sway my lore and character consistency-obsessed mind into being curious for these tales. Heck, even if I somehow acquire these comics, I am so not gonna put it on my personal DC Comics book library shelves filled with Watchmen, Batman: Year One+The Dark Knight Returns, Superman: Red Son, Batman: The Long Halloween+Dark Victory (and Catwoman: When in Rome), All-Star Superman, Kingdom Come (paired with the Elliot S! Maggin novelization, by the time I fully acquire that), DC: The New Frontier, and some more titles... am probably just gonna put them on the same intentionally forgotten attic/basement box as Star Wars Legends' "Denning-verse", the Ender Wiggins books post-Speaker for the Dead, and the Tom Clancy novels post-Without Remorse/Rainbow Six. (Beats burning them as firewood though; that sure is barbaric to me.) Still, appreciate the gesture. Addendum: By the way, Tim Drake's Robin suit is basically Dick Grayson's suit on his younger days. Plus, mullet Superman admittedly grows on you, as we've seen with DCAU Nightwing.
Partly because there were about half a dozen Clayfaces, each with their own backstories. A few years ago they changed the first Clayface's origin to be more like the BTAS version.
🧵Yes, we finally got the time to read all of this a little while ago, and I believe our general consensus was "It gets better as it goes on, but is just mostly underwhelming..." We generally agree with you that Season 1 is simply redundant. The Jason Todd storyline is either sharing too much with Tim Drake or pulling out the actual bite of the original story by not having him actually... die. (His white hair streak forms from The Joker shocking him once? Alright.) And the Ventriloquist story we would already not appreciate based on our plurality, but we found it retreading much of 'Double Talk' AND giving too much Joker focus (a problem we think is a genuine issue with the entire series) **AND** on first read we had started hitting a "is Batgirl or any woman going to get to do anything?" mood, so flipping open the comic with Harley and Ivy on the front cover and getting another Ventriloquist suppressing Scarface story mainly made us, ah, politely miffed, let us say. (We told a friend about that Ventriloquist story and they sent back, not joking on this one: "NOW THAT IVE LURED YOU ALL IN WITH LESBIANS TIME FOR ME TO DO MY SAME TRICK 20 TIMES." Their words! Not ours! Just thought it was funny) Again, we don't hate this series, far from it (it's no Gotham Academy), it certainly picks up around the 2nd season where they're no longer obligated to put the toys in there. (Though again, far too much Joker. We liked the Straightman plot though.) Though it did give us a *bizarre* moment on Annie, didn't it? (Love your little addition of her with Clayface in the toy line aha. We would simply KILL for an Annie action figure. Pair her up with Clayface, let there be a compartment in him she's supposed to fit in 😆) You'd think we'd be more upset about her being featured on a main cover just for a one page cameo at best... okay yes we were again miffed, of course, but still :P. It was the reveal that Deathstroke has secretly drugged Hagen to be more paranoid and savage after the fact that made us look at that again?? I know we're going on *yet another* Annie tangent but "Matt's first instinct when noticeably drugged to change his personality and being chased by Robin is to... immediately turn into Annie asking for help?" Listen, we KNOW the conclusion we're reaching right now isn't the one they intended... but it's hard not to reach the plural one I'm reaching immediately right now if the drugging scene is serving to absolve Matt of what he did and show the real masterminds! Being so incoherent and in a bad situation that another consciousness snaps to the front is NOT out of the question! We've had it happen to us MANY times! Obviously it didn't really *go* anywhere so we're not fully happy, but it's so funny that this scene meant to reinforce the fact that Annie is dead for good made us, a system, go "Uh hey hold on a second here" and only enforce our own interpretation, hah. Anywhoo, I do think I appreciated the attempt at the comic series, it's a mixed bag but it also got us some HD drawings of Annie so, eh, you win some you lose some
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Chuckled louldly at your timing of Joker's "I digress" clip... Cleverrrrr
Thanks! It may not seem like it but I carefully select each clip that I use
That clip is perfect for angry tangents and you can’t convince me otherwise
I wish this continued on a little bit like How Batman met Hawkgirl before the Justice league, I really like Mr Wing and Straightman I wish they could have used them much earlier especially Mr Wing I think he would give the Justice League a run for their money, but there are things that add up and it just raises more questions.
I'd serious love to see this series lead into a Batman Beyond prequel explaining how the black and red suit was created as well as what happened in the events leading up to Bruce's retirement in Rebirth. I really feel that The Adventure Continues was a great continuation to BTAS / TNBA in terms of addressing what happened to Jason Todd in the DCAU and bringing in Deathstroke & Azrael was a stroke of genius
I would read a Batman Beyond prequel series.
@@SerumLake so would i, i would like it to be at least 6 parts or maybe 7 showing us the caped beyond suit and how it evolved into the one that we know as well as address what happened to everyone. I think that's the way to go to really help finally bridge the 20 year gap between both shows
Dang, that sounds awesome. I'd love that.
That would make sense considering what happens in Season 3. A woman working for Hugo Strange steals a prototype suit from WayneTech that gives her superhuman strength and is equipped with hidden weapons. I believe that suit is a precursor to the Batsuit worn by Terry Mcguinis in Batman Beyond. The biggest clue to this is that the woman wearing the stolen prototype is immobilized by a remote feature that Barbara discovered. In part 2 of the Batman Beyond pilot, after Bruce learns that Terry broke into the Batcave and stole the suit, he contacts Terri and demands that he returns it. When Terri refuses, Bruce hits a button that activates the suit's fail-safe mechanism, paralyzing the suit in the event it was to be worn by the wrong person.
Now that is a very good eye, and that is a lot of attention to detail. @Solider7
I didn't really love season one as much but season two and three perfection 👌
I had my ups and downs with this series, but I was glad to see some B:TAS-style tales still being told. I felt it was getting better as it went along. Dini and Burnett mentioned they wanted to do a graphic novel/one-shot following up on the ending with Slade and Jason, and I'd be intrigued to see that followed up on.
Your editing is top notch. Wish your channel had more exposure. Thanks for elucidating this amazing piece of Batman Animated Media. It's always fun to see stories that could have been animated had Beyond not been created.
In the case of Deathstroke referencing 9/11, I think it can be chalked up to the story carrying over from the 90’s and into the 2000’s not necessarily the present, and the same goes for cell phones, as Batman has elements of sci fi, so I could certainly see touch screen devices and other present day electronics becoming available to the public earlier than they did in our world. As for HBO MAX, well, we all know the real explanation is product placement.
The main reason I haven’t read this series yet is because of the monstrous list of older comics I’ve been going through including the original tie in comics
Oh yes, read the original tie-in comics first!
Are the tie in comics for other DCAU shows worth a read like Superman and Justice League
Yes, I would read them too. Funnily enough, Mark Millar wrote a bunch of Superman Adventures as one of his first American comics jobs. I remember them being enjoyable stories, but damned if I can remember any specifics 😂
@@SerumLake I guess that’s fitting since I’ve always liked STAS but don’t feel it stands out the same way btas does
@@jacktoma21It stands well on its own. Why is it everyone put down Superman in any media? Because he isn't bat-god. I am sick of Batman getting put on a bloody pedestal
3:40 Similar to how in the Arkham games Jason was never mentioned in Asylum and City yet in Knight the Joker hallucination suddenly starts mentioning him, there are 3 flashbacks to Joker torturing him in the asylum and he ends up being the Arkham Knight.
Personaly I drop the adventures continue and all other DCAU media outside of the shows into "Beta Cannon". This is a terrm used by the startrek fandom, in combination with the term alpha cannon. Alpha cannon is mainline stuff of the IPs primary medium that all fits neatly into the same timeline, so for trek and the DCAU the TV shows and movies. Beta cannon is side stuff that is in the same universe but isnt as solidly cannon, stuff like comics and novels. Its a really nice way to allow yourself to enjoy everything the DCAU has to offer without getting in a huge mess about stuff that doesnt make sense.
I might check this series out if only to see the how BTAS ends
I’m still hoping that DC publishes Alan Burnett’s final story. Apparently it was written as a neat ending to BTAS.
Ha, I didn't Nora died like that. To think, the Adventures comic writers went out of their way to write BTAS stories that gave agency and personality to Nora, just for Dini and Burnett to swoop in and re-fridge her.
1:55 I would also buy a lesley thompkins figure, hint hint Todd McFarlane
With the recent MCU Multiverse movies I just view these Comics as an adjacent universe bringing in Jason Todd and having him and his origin play out just ruins Tim Drake and Batman beyond return of the Joker for me
Jazzman? more like...Zsaszman (that was intended to be bad wordplay but worked far better than I imagined...not to say it's good...just better than I imagined)
Great video man!
I read a little of Season One. It's alright, I suppose. As someone who dislikes TNBA and doesn't much care for how Batman was handled overall in the post-BTAS DCAU, I just don't have much investment in these stories.
Jason Todd's inclusion in the DCAU doesn't work because of ROTJ (and Beyond as a whole.)
Drake *absolutely* would have mentioned him during his speech to McGinnis, and Barbara...well frankly literally at any point to Old Bruce when she found out about Terry.
Yeah, the forest for the trees, but his inclusion in the DCAU *really* screws with Beyond. I can't get over that, and I don't care who's writing.
Never read or even heard about the comic, but I'll note that just because the Author's might be the same isn't justification to support it. To put it in perspective I'd be happy if 'Joe Blow' magically appeared to make a new animated BTAS series that say reflects on an aging Batman. If Joe Blow does a good enough job in honoring the legacy of what has been produced and giving something interesting while doing so, I'm good with that; even if not a single person who had previously worked on it had contributed anything to the new work.
the Batman Adventure Comics, must become the New Title of Batman: Caped Crusader.
Never been able to read these but a few adventures look pretty cool. I'm personally jazzed to see characters like Slade. Jazzman is an interesting take, to say the least. And did I see False Face in there?!
No False Face, but you did see Black Mask’s False Face Society
Still salty about the lack of TNBA Mad Hatter figures. Even The Creeper got one before him smh lol
Have you considered doing a video about the viewing order of BTAS episodes? I'm very much in the mind there is a better way to watch the series than the established episode order.
Tbh, I'm fine with set timelines. It depends on the story and all. As... some are *kinda* dependent on it.
Like how many chutulu stories are set in the 1920's. Like, wouldn't have the same effect if we were walking around today's Harlam.
During the flashback of adventures continue season 1, we see Jason todd and Batman clash with Firefly. With that in mind, is it correct to assume that Firefly's debut episode torch song takes place before sins of the father (tnba episode 2)?
Side note, congrats on this amazing channel and can't wait to see what else you have in store.
Yeah, the BTAS and TNBA episodes were told out of order, for the most part. I think it’s safe to assume that any TNBA episode that didn’t feature Robin took place before Tim Drake joined the team. In my mind Mad Love took place when Dick Grayson was Robin
@@SerumLake dude thankyou so much. My brain has been doing backflips over this trying to figure things out. The only other time this happened was back when I used to play the kingdom hearts games. Anyway congrats again on this channel.
@Serum Lake so is this comic supposed to take place after justice league or TNBA?
It’s supposed to be after TNBA (although Alex Luthor’s armour suggests it takes place around the same time as Justice League…)
Honestly, there are a few things stopping me from reading adventures continues. The art is not very good. It is not terrible, but compared to his work from the original tie-ins, Ty Templeton's art on continues is weaker and not as polished.
Also, I am not a fan of Slade and Red Hood popping up. The fact that they were included just to promote toys makes their inclusion even worse. Slade is not even a Batman rogue he is a teen titans rogue! And Jason Todd just mucks up my personal head canon for the BTAS universe.
It felt like they added these characters because of their popularity.
I was not a fan of Hill being connected to the court of owls. In my opinion, it ruins the character of Mayor Hill. He was one of the few politicians in gotham who was not corrupt.
And do not get me started on Waller and the Suicide Squad popping up in s3.
The creators missed several opportunities with Adventures continues:
The DCAU debut of Killer Moth
An issue focused on James Gordon and his relationship with Bullock
The return of Maxie Zeus and Firefly
The continuation of the Riddler subplot from Batman gotham Adventures
A team up story with Batman and The Spectre
Now, if anyone likes The Adventures, continues that is fine, but I am not interested in reading it.
Honestly, I wish DC would green lit similar continuations of other DCAU spinn off comics for Superman TAS, JL, AND Static Shock. Batman already has 5 comics based on his animated series, so why can't the DCAU version of Superman receive a similar revival.
You are The Best!
You're too kind
I have that poster at the start of the video in my room
Am afraid that this video didn't sway my lore and character consistency-obsessed mind into being curious for these tales. Heck, even if I somehow acquire these comics, I am so not gonna put it on my personal DC Comics book library shelves filled with Watchmen, Batman: Year One+The Dark Knight Returns, Superman: Red Son, Batman: The Long Halloween+Dark Victory (and Catwoman: When in Rome), All-Star Superman, Kingdom Come (paired with the Elliot S! Maggin novelization, by the time I fully acquire that), DC: The New Frontier, and some more titles... am probably just gonna put them on the same intentionally forgotten attic/basement box as Star Wars Legends' "Denning-verse", the Ender Wiggins books post-Speaker for the Dead, and the Tom Clancy novels post-Without Remorse/Rainbow Six. (Beats burning them as firewood though; that sure is barbaric to me.)
Still, appreciate the gesture.
Addendum: By the way, Tim Drake's Robin suit is basically Dick Grayson's suit on his younger days. Plus, mullet Superman admittedly grows on you, as we've seen with DCAU Nightwing.
Unpopular opinion perhaps, but I always wanted Jean Paul Valley in BTAS.
I chose to see the Batman Adventure Continues series as sort of an Alternative Universe.
Wait why didn't they adapt clayface? Isn't he fairly popular far as batmans rogues go? Like not joker level but pretty up there
Partly because there were about half a dozen Clayfaces, each with their own backstories. A few years ago they changed the first Clayface's origin to be more like the BTAS version.
Have you read The Batman Adventures? I'm assuming this is a sequel to that
If yoy look for all details in btac the comic can ocurrs in 2005
How dare you SLANDER Todd McFarlane's GIFT TO US, he finally made affordable versions since SCALPERS ruined the original run of figures.
:K D
🧵Yes, we finally got the time to read all of this a little while ago, and I believe our general consensus was "It gets better as it goes on, but is just mostly underwhelming..."
We generally agree with you that Season 1 is simply redundant. The Jason Todd storyline is either sharing too much with Tim Drake or pulling out the actual bite of the original story by not having him actually... die. (His white hair streak forms from The Joker shocking him once? Alright.) And the Ventriloquist story we would already not appreciate based on our plurality, but we found it retreading much of 'Double Talk' AND giving too much Joker focus (a problem we think is a genuine issue with the entire series) **AND** on first read we had started hitting a "is Batgirl or any woman going to get to do anything?" mood, so flipping open the comic with Harley and Ivy on the front cover and getting another Ventriloquist suppressing Scarface story mainly made us, ah, politely miffed, let us say.
(We told a friend about that Ventriloquist story and they sent back, not joking on this one: "NOW THAT IVE LURED YOU ALL IN WITH LESBIANS TIME FOR ME TO DO MY SAME TRICK 20 TIMES." Their words! Not ours! Just thought it was funny)
Again, we don't hate this series, far from it (it's no Gotham Academy), it certainly picks up around the 2nd season where they're no longer obligated to put the toys in there. (Though again, far too much Joker. We liked the Straightman plot though.)
Though it did give us a *bizarre* moment on Annie, didn't it? (Love your little addition of her with Clayface in the toy line aha. We would simply KILL for an Annie action figure. Pair her up with Clayface, let there be a compartment in him she's supposed to fit in 😆) You'd think we'd be more upset about her being featured on a main cover just for a one page cameo at best... okay yes we were again miffed, of course, but still :P. It was the reveal that Deathstroke has secretly drugged Hagen to be more paranoid and savage after the fact that made us look at that again??
I know we're going on *yet another* Annie tangent but "Matt's first instinct when noticeably drugged to change his personality and being chased by Robin is to... immediately turn into Annie asking for help?" Listen, we KNOW the conclusion we're reaching right now isn't the one they intended... but it's hard not to reach the plural one I'm reaching immediately right now if the drugging scene is serving to absolve Matt of what he did and show the real masterminds! Being so incoherent and in a bad situation that another consciousness snaps to the front is NOT out of the question! We've had it happen to us MANY times!
Obviously it didn't really *go* anywhere so we're not fully happy, but it's so funny that this scene meant to reinforce the fact that Annie is dead for good made us, a system, go "Uh hey hold on a second here" and only enforce our own interpretation, hah.
Anywhoo, I do think I appreciated the attempt at the comic series, it's a mixed bag but it also got us some HD drawings of Annie so, eh, you win some you lose some