The Olympus E-M1 Mkll Compared To The Panasonic GH5
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- These are the two top dogs in the Micro Four Thirds system lineup. Which one will make you the photographer you always wanted to be? Or, if you already are, do you want the big one or the little one? Here's a practical run down of these two state of the art cameras from a stills shooter's point of view.
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David, thank you for all your excellent information and instruction. RIP, you will be missed.
Miss your wonderful videos, David. Aside from all your knowledge, the way you presented it and your calm demeanor was a highlight of my day when I found a new video from you.
David, you remain among the best camera reviewers on TH-cam !!! You tackle all the relevant, really useful and really important features of the camera or the lens under scrutiny. Keep on doing great job !
It's very good of you to say so and I appreciate it - thank you.
Great stuff, as always. Looking forward to your comparison of the EM1ii and Panasonic G9.
Nicely done David, as always spot on. I would've to see a comparison between the Olympus and the newer Lumix G9. I know that eventually you will do it.
Thanks David, very good job, important comparison, I was surprised why there are no much more videos like this. It seems though now, that the G9 comparison is going to be even much more important...
Thanks for sharing your insights of what we call our hobby, always entertaining, never boring, keep it up David, your one of the kind. The only sad thing about this video, its makes me want to have both.
I’ve been watching your videos for a while and just want to say thanks so much. This is great info and an insightful review.
I really appreciate your expertise.
It's nice of you to say so - glad you enjoy them.
thanks for this video david! but you know what i'm going to suggest next, a comparison between the em1 mk 2 vs the g9!
++ for the comment ^
Kim Cruz i found focusing more accurate on olympus em1 mark ii vs Panasonic g9
A good way to start a day...David Thrope's video and tea.
A new David's vedeo! *drops all lenses and runs to watch*
:-)
Thank you for the review ! I didn't expect to see Carcassonne and what I believe to be the countryside nearby. Nice !
I loved this comparison buy the way, your voice also puts me to sleep so I watched it again this morning ;)
Wonderful review as ever :) I've switched mostly to Panasonic now, and I love the GH5 for stills as well as video. Though I must admit I do miss the live composite mode in the Olympus. Though I do NOT miss the Olympus menus! Haha
Yeah. The menus have kept me in Pana camp. Lens side is a different thing. Although Olympus selling hoods seperately for most of their lenses is infuriating. ~40€ for a hood for my 60mm macro lens? That's a high price for plastic (although it's not that simple).
I guess it is largely personal preference. I seem to be one of the only people who prefers olympus's menu system (although that's probably most likely due to the fact that 95% of my shooting has been on olympus - and I would probably loose that preference with more experience on other systems) That being said, I am legitimately considering panasonic for my next camera for video capabilities
I've used both (started with Pana) and never had much of an issue with the Oly menus.
I now have an Oly camera and all Pana lenses lol! I like how Pana better appreciate the smaller lenses.
looking for as much information as possible on the em1 ii and what a surprise am watching your good self again!!! top work
Thansk you - glad it was useful.
@@DavidThorpeMFT purchase made, camera in hand, very happy customer!! thanks again Dave! looking forward to hopfully a 2x TC review 👌
As ever, an interesting and comprehensive review David.
Thanks for another great review David. I really enjoy them.
Thank you, Ronnie!
Great comparo David. The menu system of the EM1ii has me seriously looking at the newly announced G9.
Very nice video, David. I use the OM-D E-M1 quite happily and have no need, or desire, to replace it with a newer model such as the Mk II, but it is interesting, and encouraging, to see how Olympus and Panasonic continue to improve and advance the micro four-thirds format.
The little one! Great comparison!
Always enjoy your videos. You didn't mention RAW performance. I'm an M43 fan and happily use a G85, mostly for video but some stills. Recently, I did a test between the JPG and RAW files and the difference was so dramatic that I will be shooting RAW from now on except for happy web snaps. I've always had the extra processing turned off but, in comparison, I would say the JPGs are marginal at best. How's it with these two?
Outstanding review, as usual. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks Adelino - and thanks for telling me.
I switched to MFT (Olympus) from Sony A7RII. I love the portability of MFT and I’ve discovered your TH-cam channel, David which I enjoy immensely. Thanks for your hard work at making the videos! Keep them coming, please!
Thanks, Leo.
I did the same move. I really enjoy m43 system.
Thank you. Nice, simple and relevant. I am curious about your G9 review, now :-)
Thanks again and keep up the good work!
Thanks, Cosmin!
Awesome video, thank you for the info and your expertise
Thanks, Kerry - you are welcome!
Fantastic video! I’ve been shooting with MFT since the E-M10 was introduced. Recently upgraded to the E-M1 Mark II and love it! I’m an enthusiast, not a pro, and I can’t imagine ever needing another camera. The features of both the GH5 and the E-M1 are way beyond my needs. The question I have is are they still not up to pro standards? I don’t seem to hear of many pros switching to MFT, even though they are much lighter, less expensive and more compact.
Thanks for the great insight David. I take it that Panasonic has heard your complaint about lack of Hi-res mode in the GH5 and add it to the new G9 (which is more similar to the Olymous)
The obvious question everyone is asking is what about the new G9. I’m pretty sure it would just be another similar one to make a set of three. On past form the really interesting release for a stills photographer will surely be the EM5 III. That should offer most of what the EM1 III does (with at least one more trick somewhere) but for less money and in a smaller package. That’s the one I’m waiting for!
Excellent as usual..Thanks Dave.
Thanks, Philip!
I can't imagine the job being better done than this. Thank you.
David you're back in stride again. Or should I say in the saddle. Your the only reviewer that takes time to include stop motion animations of the cams. Top job on this comparison as usual and I imagine buyers might wind up buying both after hearing your pros and cons list lol.
Haha! And thanks!
As always a very informative video, thanks. Will you be reviewing the G9 soon, I am tempted to purchase but would like to hear your thoughts first?
Hi Rob - I'm just waiting for the sound files to come back to me so should post my review tomorrow (Feb 24th). Just to address your question, you will not find anything much in my review to lessen your temptation :-)
Yep! I got the little one (and the G9 is even bigger!). But I actually had no choice (at the time) because I need Hi Res Mode for shooting paintings (with the Panasonic 25/1.4) and I love it! Nice job David! You and Mattius Burling keep proving that TH-cam can be a decent, useful, enjoyable place.
Thanks, Hank! There are some great reviewers out there but there some awful ones too and I sometimes feel that the vast majority of their viewers will know more than they do. Beware man in baseball cap yelling "Hi Guys!" :-)
I love my EM1 Mkii, it is very fast and the controls are so retro and easy to use. I have been fortunate to be able to afford, all of the PRO lenses including the 300mmF4 which is so sharp, I did not purchase the 25mm F1.2 Pro instead, I purchased the 42.5mm F1.2 Lumix, which again is very sharp. The Olympus 75mm F1.8 is also incredible for sharpness, I am so happy to have moved away from my Canon 5Dmkiii and 7Dmkii and the 300mmF4 Olympus takes the place of my old Canon 400mmF2.8. I really enjoy your videos and like your style, keep up the good work David !!
Can't wait for your g9 review
Nice comments, fun to watch. I'm now desiring a Panasonic G80/G85 vs. Olympus EM-5 Mark ii comparison.
Thank you, John. I'll see what i can do.
Great review as always! I'm hitting "reload" here for the G9 review. ;)
6:08 man i dont know why but i love that 35-100 zoom. I cannot wait to buy one for myself
I'll add my appreciation to the others; thanks for these reviews, much enjoyed.
Lovely of you to say so - thanks!
It is ironic that Panasonic has just announced the G9 as you were about to release this review. Apparently, Panasonic has read your mind, and has attempted to address any shortcomings vis a vis the OMD 1 MKII in their new camera and is going directly after Olympus. The first thought that came to mind when I saw the Panasonic announcement was: I bet David Thorpe is going to be pissed since he just purchased a G5 (and MKII?).
As others have noted, I will be looking forward to your review of the new camera, once you are able to get your hands on it. As a current and very content user of the G85, I am excited about this announcement....not that I will switch anytime soon, but because to me, it shows that Panasonic will be just as committed to stills photography as they have been to video. That usually means that features that first appear in their flagship models usually filter down into their other models. I will wait a few generations before I upgrade again. Unfortunately at the current pace of release of new cameras that may be sooner rather than later.
I am convinced Panasonic are trying to ruin me :-) The G85 is an easy camera to be content with but like you I am pleased to see Panasonic demonstrating their commitment to stills photographers.
I finally sold the G85 and got me a om-d e-m1 mk II. Having a gx85 and g85 was a little bit too similar. The reason I went olympus is the phase detect AF in the em1.2 works so well with my olympus pro 7-14, 12-40, 40-150 and work as well with small panaleica primes. The G9 only work well with the dfd compatible panasonic lenses so it's less inclusive. I won't change my 3 main pro zoom for panasonic one simply because there is no equivalent in their lineup.
The em1.2 take some time to get used to it but I'm getting there. It's a fast camera for sure, it autofocus so well even in the dark with my 40-150mm f2.8 and the mc-14 teleconverter.
The mechanical shutter is a monster I almost filled a 32gb sd card testing it on afternoon. I now limite it to small slower burst.
Fantastic camera for their fantastic pro lenses. I just wish they would adapt panasonic menus and touchscreen interface but the olympus "all setting" screen is quite efficient too.
This year has been expensive no thanks to you :)
I look at it another way - if it wasn't for me you'd still have the money but you wouldn't have the lenses and would therefore be unhappy. So you ought to thank me for making you spend the money :-)
Olympus have always had a logical and coherent policy with lenses. I think the 40-150 f/2.8 is the greatest example of that, a lens that is really takes advantage of the smaller sensor to deliver a spec that wouldn't be practical otherwise.
As you say, the Olympus menu system can be coped with but they really do need to get into a more user friendly form. It would be the single most useful upgrade they could do. Nice lens line-up!
Nice video as always Mr.David , waiting for your thoughts on the G9
Thanks - I'm waiting too!
Nice video David. It's been a while since your last video. Please stay update since G9 is about to release soon
Great comparison! I have my mind set on the olympus. Coming from the e-m5, I guess the menu system is already more or less similar.
Thanks! Yes, very similar. Takes longer to learn and find your way around but of course once you know where everything you need on one camera it translates to the next. They have changed the E-M1 Mkll menu but it's nothing radical and you'd find your way around it very quickly.
Another excellent video David. In my opinion, very fair and balanced. Both great cameras for different people. The '90%' quote is perfect. Very true. If you're not a specialist, either should work fine. Can't wait for you G9 review!
Really like your family photography. You can always tell when someone is photographing something they enjoy doing!
Thanks Ricardo! I await the G9 with interest myself. And yes, it does somehow come through when you enjoy doing something. One of the things I like about photographing families is that any decent camera will do it, so the picture really does depend on the photographer and his or her manner.
David Thorpe Agreed. As with many other professions, doing good work is more than just being technically good.
Hey David I want to know your choice between two cameras when it comes to photography: Lumix G7 vs. Olympus OMD EM5 II.
I like both but it'd be the Olympus, mainly for the stabiization.
"Do you want the big one or the little one?" Love it!
:-)
After using Olympus 4/3 DSLR and M43 camera 10 years,I have switched to Panasonic GH4 and GH5 last year and maybe add the G9 next year instead of the GH4 for still.but I still use Olympus lens...
Excellent as usual David. Very interested to see how the G9 lines up against these two giants. I shoot Wildlife with a GX8/100-400PL lens, but am just about to try the G80 which may be a better fit for Wildlife work. Once the G9 is available...on paper at least....this should be the perfect m43 for my use.
Regards
Andy
Thanks Andy! I think the G9 should be ideal for what you do. I found the 100-400's autofocus superb with the GX8. The G9 may be even better but only incrementally, I expect.
Hello David, again I use your advice for choosing a camera. If I originally worked exclusively as a cameraman, the (relatively) recent use of digital cameras for video work has brought me into the “world of photography”. Best of all, I loved it. Video is my job, photography is my hobby and my fun. That said, I'm thinking of selling my (dear) GH4, which is currently „just“ my „camera C“, and buying a camera with more focus in photography. My other cameras (which I use for video) are the GH5 and the GX80. With your experience of using both models, would you recommend the G9 or em1 II? I notice that my cameras are all Panasonic, but my lenses are varied, of which 6 are Olympus. What is your suggestion and opinion about these two cameras? Which one would help me most in my development as a photographer, especially in Landscape, Wildlife and some Macro? I tried both cameras in one store, and the em1 II fit the size of my hand perfectly (just like GH4), but I don't want to base my choice on ergonomics alone. Looking for a rugged camera, outdoor and fun to use. Thank you very much and all the best! Do you have a link where I can buy to Support your Channel?
Thanks for the suppprt offer, much appreciated. I don't know if there is any way to do that on TH-cam. It's a real toss-up between the Olympus and Panasonic. My personal preference is for the Panasonic because I like the LCD and the much better menu system. The Panasonic also has the customizable My Menu so I put all the menu items I use in there in alphabetical order and can always find them. The Olympus menu system badly needs rethinking, in my opinion. The Olympus is that bit better for moving sequence shots but G9 has a _much_ better EVF and better video facilities. I'm not providing much guidance here, these are two top line cameras and in the end they are not better or worse but different. As a camera to use, I thought the GH3/4/5 were about the best I'd ever used. The G9 follows their lead in that respect so for me the balance is with the G9. But if I would be more than happy to use the Olympus instead and would find its smaller size handy. Neither camera would disappoint On balance, overall, because you already know Panasonic's ways, I'd say go with that. I forgot in camera charging and power on the G9. Very useful.
David Thorpe thank you! It seems that the G9 is really the best option for me. It also uses the same battery as GH4 and GH5, which I have several. In addition to the same charger. Better yet with usb cable charging. Thanks again David. Really balanced set make me stay with Panasonic. But I confess that I always had the desire to have an Olympus. But this is a wish for the future. Maybe em5 mIII in a year or two.
The lack of a "my menu" on the Olympus is a bummer. However, I have noticed that reviewers who, with few exceptions, trash the complexity of the Olympus menu system (and rightly so) usually ignore the Super Control Panel present on Olympus cameras. While not customizable, you get 25 of the most used menu items with one press of the OK button. You scroll through the items with one control wheel, and adjust the options with the other. Or you can scroll through with the touch panel. Pretty quick to use, and alleviates the need of going into the menu tree most of the time. I'm not sure why this feature doesn't get more love.
In my reviews and books, I stress the usefulness of this feature, especially given the dense Olympus menu system. Absolutely the best way of controlling the camera. Unbelievably, Olympus used to have the SCP set off by default!
@@davidthorpe7732 I just subscribed so I look forward to viewing more of your videos.
@@jonbarnard7186 Thanks, Jon!
I see the G9 in your future :) such an awesome camera - best ergonamics
I've been so happy with my E-M5ii that I haven't been able to talk myself into upgrading. I wish it shot 4k, but the 1080@60 is so stunningly good looking that I can't justify upgrading just for 4k. The specs on the E-M1ii are nice, but not enough of an upgrade over what I already have to justify the cost. Neither the E-M1ii or the GH5 can seem to part me with my money.
However, the G9 has captured my attention. It may be worth a harder look...
The G9 does sound exciting though in general work and viewing there'll be no huge difference in IQ to your Olympus - which has the advantage of being truly compact, of course. When I use 4K it's for my product shots on my videos because it gives me the ability to crop them if I want to.
For all other video, I use FHD which the E-M5II does as well as any other camera for my purposes. 4K produces fairly unwieldy file sizes and very few TVs and computers have 4K screen so far.
Love to know your thoughts on the G9 David. Personally I'm annoyed about several aspects of the G9: could be too large for me, evf in the wrong place (should have been left side of body so my big schnose can be free of the screen), and most importantly - they dropped the 'X' from the GX series (which used to be the premium stills bodies) It's a bit weird how the G series jumped from the 'value packed' little brother to the GH series to being the replacement for the GX series. Or perhaps this is another Panasonic sock market trick in which they will release a GX9 mid next year?
I think they will bring in an update to the GX8 at some point. Their range would be totally complete if they made the GH5 the top line hybrid with the best of both stills and video incorporated as a standalone. Then a G9 and GX9, as top line stills cameras in DSLR and rangefinder style and G80 and GX80 next down and more compact. But what do I know?
If you get a chance, how about the M1 ii, G9 and D500 for landscape, moving and birds.
That would be fun, William but I have to buy all the stuff I review so i stick to Micro Four Thirds equipment.
Hi Dave still cant decide on the Olympus or the Pano especially now the G9 is out...any thoughts? tried the g9 at the weekend better than the G5 for focus speed.
If you really want the highest speed RAW and full size JPG recording and the best dim light C-AF (not S-AF), the Olympus it has to be. In terms of usability, with its focus joystick, LCD Info panel, superb EVF etc, the Panasonic is way ahead and makes the Olympus feel like a previous generation camera. Which many will like and want, of course. I find the ability to charge the camera in the car and to power it externally alone make it the better buy for me. It's goodbye to battery worries. I'm assuming you mean the GH5 rather than G5 - I can't actually tell any difference in focus speed over the GH5, simply because there doesn't appear to be anything I do that would test it to the limit. It's a bit like a car that does 150mph rather than 120 - why not but I'll never notice it!
I want the best for shooting birds in flight..I know, I hear you, the Nikon D500 but I want to stay mirrorless. My OMD 5 mk11 does all I want except Birds in flight The G9 last weekend nailed more or less every picture sharp. Have you had experience on the omd em1 mk11 with a subject like this...
My overall experience with both cameras now is that the PDAF of the Olympus is more reliable under conditions where the subject has radical changes in direction and is in very dim light, indoor school sports, for example. My own view is that the PDAF advantage is offset by the Panasonic's facility to tailor the focus area in shape and size to the subject in hand. I've used both cameras photographing gulls wheeling around and found performance of both cameras similar. You'd be looking at better than 90% sharp with both cameras and with either maker's lenses. Olympus lenses work just great on the G9 (in spite of no DfD) and vice versa.
My experiences with the E-M5 mark II were a hit rate of maybe 80% under similar conditions. Actually, Micro Four Thirds is getting pretty close to the DSLRs now in this area. Where the E-M1 mkII definitely outdoes the G9 is its ability to shoot at high speed with full size files - the G9 will give you AF-C and live view at 20fps but it is limited to 50 frames - or 2.5 seconds shooting. You then can't shoot for a few seconds while the buffer is emptied. Not good. Personally, I find 7 fps about right and use that rather than the 9fps I could. That will just keep on for ages on JPG with some slowing down on RAW files.
Thanks for all that Dave.
The cat picture at 10:10 reminds me that we havent seen Riley for a while on a picture. I hope he is fine!
Yes, he's fine. He still calls round and allows us to adore him for a short while before going on to the neighbours. I fear he is getting a little spoilt. But will pass on your greeting to him even so :-)
I did not understand the high ISO comparison. Can you please confirm the "little one" is actually one stop faster than the "big one". If the same exposure produces a brighter image on the E-M1 Mark ii then should we compare it's ISO 3200 to the Panasonic's ISO 6400? In this case the E-M1 would appear to be better for low light photos.
BTW, thank you so much for the review!
Thanks, Andrei. It's a hard question you ask Basically, if a given exposure yields a different brightness image on two cameras, it is simply the makers having different criteria for what a properly exposed image is. Proper exposure is a preference or choice, an artistic consideration rather than an objective one. It doesn't mean one camera is faster than the other, simply that one considers a darker image correctly exposed, one a lighter image.
In film days, I used to use Kodachrome 64 for colour transparencies. Kodak's speed rating of 64 gace too dark an image for my taste and I used ASA40 instead of ASA64. A colleague of mine used to shoot Kodachrome at ASA80 - he simply preferred a darker result. Ditto the little one and the big one.
David Thorpe Thanks for the clarification.
What is you take on the current direction of mft(panasonic full frame) and would you switch to fujifilm now that panasonic has a foot in the full frame department and full frame cameras have come down in price(a7iii)
I never bought in to the system because I thought it would be cheap - and I was right there! - but because it hit the sweet spot between size and quality. None of the new cameras or drops in price change that. The bigger sensors will always require bigger lenses and though lens size can be lessened bigger sensor will always mean bigger lens. Having said all that, if someone comes up with a FF camera with the same size body and lenses as Micro Four Thirds, I'd be a ready buyer.
@@DavidThorpeMFT There is a hype around ff and former mft fanboys have ditched mft but i am wondering will an 1.8 lens in ff outperform an 1.2 lens in mft.
Micro Four Thirds lenses are more than sharp enough for anything that I do so whether some FF lens outperforms one of them holds no interest for me whatever. Who cares? I don't understand all this'fanboy' business either. It sounds more like 13 year olds discussing some teen pop star than people interested in making pictures.
@@DavidThorpeMFT I like your thinking. A guy named robin wong discussed these discussions and said people have become too obsessed with gear they carry 10k cameras but have not taken a single picture. He said I am more interested in the art rather than specifications.
Although the G9 still is not using phase detection, it looks to answer many of the stills capabilities of the OM1 MKII it seems to me. At least that’s the way the reviews seem to cast it.
I've yet to do nitty gritty tests but that does appear the general impression. I think the E-M1 MkII may still be a bit better in really poor light fast moving sports but I've always found the Panasonics to be better in more usual circumstances, including with Olympus Pro lenses. Contrast AF is so fast now but the phase detection is still more certain in extremes. It's so hard to pin the differences because it is next to impossible to duplicate tests properly. And with any camera, setting the most apt focus area and keeping the subject within it, ie the photographer's skill can still make more difference than any technical improvements.
Would you say this is the "OlyOly" you've been waiting for? Does it tick all the boxes for an OlyOly"?
Yes, I guess it does. It is unmistakably Olympus in design and function and a very neat size, too.
+David Thorpe ...It's 12,800 not 12,600 (at 7:00) You're slipping a bit David. Also it seems you always prefer Olympus!
Since I have been told by others that I always prefer Panasonic, your remark illustrates that I must be doing something right. Actually, I use a mix of Panasonic and Olympus equipment without regard to what I use with which. And if Nikon came out with a camera that better suited my purposes, I'd use that.
I have no brand loyalty in my bones and since I buy pretty much all of the cameras I review, I say exactly what I think. Both makers offer superb cameras and lenses and for a given amount of money you could buy either and be sure of getting a good product.
As for a slip of the tongue, well, I'm sorry. Everything in my videos is done by me personally. It is the result of many weeks of photography, product shooting, scripting and recording and assembling. What surprises me is that I don't make more mistakes than I do. Sometimes you don't see the wood for the trees. Cue Brenda Lee, I'm sorry, so sorry :-)
As for, 12800 instead of 12600
what do you mean by one is an imaging tool. Panasonic just released a stunner(G9), it is an all arounder according to rumours. What is your opinion.
I can't have an opinion on rumours. I don't get cameras on loan from manufacturers for a couple of weeks, I buy them and use them for actually taking photographs for quite a long time before forming an opinion. I can't take pictures with a rumour :-)
David Thorpe well the specific qoute is in photographyblog, they claim it is a better value as an allarounder than gh5.
The gh9 competes directly with omd em1 mark ii.
The question I have is what do you mean by an imaging tool?
I haven't seen or tried a G9 yet so my opinion has no value whatsoever. Photographyblog presumable have one on loan from Panasonic? What I mean by an imaging too is a camera that will handle any photographic task you may have with aplomb. The GH5 qualifies there because it will shoot both video and stills to the highest standard for its format and has a very controllable and intuitive user interface. So for someone like me who uses a camera in all kinds of different settings, it will be both easy to set up and capable for any task. It can be used on mains power with a cheap adapter, no need for a battery grip, is another example.
The E-M1 MkII is much more of a traditional camera and doesn't configure and reconfigure so easily and the menu system makes setting up for many and various tasks rather difficult. It cannot handle top quality video.
In other words, the Olympus is a great enthusiast camera where the Panasonic is more of an all round workhorse.
David Thorpe now I see, for casual shooting you recommend omd but for someone who demands top quality for stills and video gh5 is the answer, gh5 is more like g80 while omd is more like gx80
Sort of. The cameras have similar IQ but the GH5 is a more function oriented design, the Olympus feels more like a traditional camera. Both will do most jobs well, of course.
I really wanted to get used to Olympus old menus system and buttons uses but once you touch the Panasonic you put the Olympus on the shelves and forget about it. I'm waiting for the g9.
Yes, Olympus need to bite the bullet soon and do a rewrite of the menu on more modern lines. Going from, say, a Fuji to Panasonic is easier than from Olympus to Fuji because Fuji menus are more generically modern, as are Sony. They are all different but Olympus really is out on a limb with theirs.
Any contact with panasonic to get the G9 early ? They should send you one for free before release.
I don't even try these days - they don't reply!
David Thorpe It's crazy from them. You are one of the few ready to make proper reviews and not just thinking panasonic is only good for video.
Yes. These great big organisations don't think that subtly, though. But thanks for the sentiment, Sylvain.
great video as always - thanks David. I am waiting for your comparison of the Olympus EM-1 m2 vs G9 as that is more of a comparison as both for stills primarily -
also of course the GH5 is a bit older - now of course the G9 a bit younger -
It will be interested to see how much the DFD has improved - and yes I dislike the Olympus menu system and no Touch on menu items - vs the nice menu system on Panasonic with the 5 soft Fn etc is just fantastic -
I have a strong feeling you will really like the G9 - everything you have in the Olympus but better - like the awesome EVF of the G9 -
I see a G9 in your camera bag soon - and it will for a good long time - 6.5 IS - lighter and smaller and better grip than GH5 - faster speeds then the Oly - and much nicer menu system and Full Touch - I am getting the G9 - I did pass on the Oly Em-1 mark2 primarily due to menu system - and was hoping Panasonic was coming with a GX8 updated - but they gave us something better -
Thanks, Jon. Panasonic do seem to have taken a list of attributes that stills photographers want and stuffed them all into one camera. I really like the E-M1 II and I suspect its Phase Detection focusing will still have the edge over DfD at high shooting speeds but the user friendly nature of the G9, its flexible power supply system, always on low current consumption top LCD and the rest will give the Olympus tough competition. I wonder what the E-M1 Mark 3 will be like :-)
6:11 Nails, rope and a neck clamp for portraits in high resolution mode!🤣😂😳
R.I.P David.
I want the little one;)
Well, continuing your joke, for being so unselfish and not picking the little one, Ma'ruf, I'm going to give you the big one :-)
Its not about the features! Its about the feel usability and colours. I just can't use a Panasonic for photo, and i prefer a Olympus for that but for video its Panasonic all the way.
One of each then Tomas :-)
Personally I found the Olympus bodies to be a bit too sharp feeling but that could be accentuated by the fact that it was a smaller body than this one.
The Oly for me please.
Weapons grade!🤣👍
Meccano vs. LEGO :)
Then along comes the G9.......
Panasonic design is way better. If one isn't particularly serious about video, why not just go with a smaller G80(85)?
The g85 and gx85 are fantastic and the menu system is miles ahead of Olympus.
David, you sound a bit crook. 🤢 Hope you rug-up, rest and recover.
I enjoy my OMD EM1 (Mark 1) for video because the stabilisation is brilliant... BUT... I need to sell the body as it’s too complex for me and turning me off shooting because I’m forever “looking under the hood” so to speak.
I’m holding onto the M43 lenses as it’s likely I’ll get another Oly at some point of I find a system that feels more intuitive.
I’ve been using my old Nikon D90, which is like an old friend. 😎
Get a cheap Panasonic g85 and it will solve what you didn't appreciate with Olympus.
Sylvain Paquette,
If the G85 has in-body stabilisation I may look into it.
I’ll look up some reviews on the G85.
Many thanks for the suggestion. 🙂
Seamus Warren it sure have it and got dual is too if lens has it. The gx85 too.