I worked there , been there dozens of time. Water for the city and hotels is from desalination plant in jeddah , water from Zamzam is only for drinking in the holy mosques. I am US citizen, if you want to try by yourself go buy zamzam bottle from Middle East grocery store, you can taste the difference. Sitting in front of books does not make you researcher. National Institute of Health done a research paper about zamzam water and its chemical composition. You can read that .
I agree that sitting in a room of books isn't enough. But then what makes you worth listening to. You talk like you know something, but the only thing you said is the waters taste different. How does taste change it? Because at the end of the day, it's just water. There is nothing magical in it unless there's minerals in it with the only ability to rehydrate the body.
@@Polemistis0416 good point, there is a research paper by NIH , about chemical composition of zamzam water , Zamzam water has high density, which is 1.01 in turn, its salinity is high to it is about 17.4. While bottled water density is 1, and its salinity is about 4
It's amazing how people believe in Jay's cute little story about the zam zam well. Jay is a kafir. He doesnt believe in the miracle of Allah! He doesnt believe that a well that small could supply endless pure drinking water for millions of pilgrims. "52 million litres a day that little well?" Yes, Jay Smith! That little well does it every day! And it's not being supplied with desalinated water from Jeddah. That's his error! The water in the well is supplied by Allah Himself! The unique property of the zam zam well is that it fills up every time the water falls below a certain level. Zam zam is free, no one has to pay for it unless it's purchased outside of Saudi or from shops selling them in Makkah, for those who do not bother to fill up their own bottles. Answering Jay's questions: 1) Hagar was left there with baby Ismael. Abraham left them there. Abraham did NOT live in Makkah. There were NO houses around the Kaabah. Kaabah was not even there! There were only foundation stones that Abraham when he rebuilt the Kaabah with Ismael when he's older. That cite where Hagar found water became an attractive spot for other arabs but she made it clear, the well belongs to her. 2) The well does NOT supply the needs of Muslims all around the world. It only supplies water to the pilgrims. Jay is making a wild and foolish claim! 3) There are no pipes coming TO the well. There are only 2 large pipes drawing water OUT of the well. Pilgrim may drink zam zam water from taps outside the Masjid, from water tanks placed all around the Masjid, or go to the nearest pump station where they can fill large bottles to take home. 4) Desalination plants DO NOT send water to the zam zam well. Desalinated water is for use in hotels, houses, restaurants for everyday use: cooking, washing, etc. This water is pumped to the buildings. It's strange that Jay thinks the desalinated water goes to the zam zam well, and then re-pumped to the buildings! This desalinated water that we get from the taps tastes DIFFERENT from the water of zam zam. Jay Smith doesnt know because he has never tasted these 2 waters!! 5) Saudi Arabia does not laugh all the way to the bank because zam zam water is FREE! Each pilgrim is given 5 litres of zam zam for FREE. On top of that we can fill up our own bottles if we want and they're FREE. This is a documentary of the well which Jay took a screenshot from but completely ignored the facts presented in the video and invent his own story. Watch: th-cam.com/video/ZL3MJb_djUU/w-d-xo.html
@@talltalltrees22 If you mention "devil" then I am duty bound to remind u that your prophet himself admitted that he recieved his verses from satan (hence the Satanic Verses). So you might have to rethink and reflect as to who are the real children of the devil!
@@Isa_is_the_Messenger_of_Allah jesus rebuked satan 3 times when satan tempted him while he was fasting 40 days in the wilderness... muhamad was deceived by satan into revealing false revelations with the satanic versus, and muhamad, his companions & the qureysh prostrated to the three daughters of allah and all committed shirk. so what do you expect from muhamad who was a black stone kissing pagan like his father was..jesus is god, allah is satan and muhamad is the messenger of satan...
Zamzam water doesn't go to homes via pipes in Mecca. Those homes are supplied with water through other means. When you turn on a faucet or take a shower at a home in Mecca you aren't getting Zamzam water. Your getting regular water from other means. Zamzam water is supplied by bottles and drinking fountains in the Mosque of the Kaaba and possibly other means that I don't know about. Your argument was based on the assumption the Zamzam well provides water to every home in Mecca so there is not enough water to go around so the Saudi government is lying about Zamzam water. The Zamzam well doesn't supply water to homes via pipes which means when your buying or drinking Zamzam water from government official places and sources your getting Zamzam water, not water from desalination plants. To say the well holds infinite water is impossible and nothing from the Quran or Sahih Hadith say the well has infinite water. If anyone really wants to know the truth go to your local Mosque and ask a Sheikh.
well, we all know what the Sheikh will say, and why would i ask a mosque in London about stuff in Mecca? of course, we cannot go to Mecca. still, his take on the Zamzam well providing water to all of Mecca today was to rebute some muslim claims, not to enforce a christian claim. muslims are the ones that say the well provided enough water for a whole city because it was adequate enough. and this was to rebuke Dr. Jay's claim that there was no water in Mecca, and thus, no city.
@@ragael1024 It doesn't matter what some Muslims say. Rebuking them means nothing. If he didn't rebuke the Quran or Hadith which he won't then this video is pointless.
@@LoveAndPeace2004 Did he changed his argument because this was one was clearly wrong. I dont even need to look at his new argument because what he is arguing is absurd and absolutely baseless. Anyone living in Mecca will tell you how absurd this argument sounds. As absurd as saying the sky is not blue. This argument just sounds like a baseless absurd conspiracy theory like saying the earth is flat. I'm at a lost for words how anyone can believe this. Its insane.
LOL good question. Because they believe they have the final "revelation" and that really, the "people of the book" are inferior, hence the need for the "final" revelation. It's all so clever because they claim "the book" is corrupted and theirs is the only perfect unblemished & unchanged for 1400 years. This is what they are taught. (among many other things that are wrong & incorrect, as well as ficitonal).
@@talltalltrees22 Are Jews the progeny of Abraham? Are Jews allowed at the well or in Mecca? Does Abraham have progeny who are not Muslims today? Are non-muslims at the Kaaba, or at the Zamzam well?
I’m a 48 practicing Muslim I grew up culturally in a Muslim household. I have never had ZamZam water in my life and never seen it sold where I live. I only had tap water or other kind of bottled water. I don’t mind your critical analysis or critical thinking. You are entitled to your opinion, but I’m not sure if you can hear yourself that there is hate in your voice. You are doing this out of hate. So obvious. There is a saying “Pointing the finger and failing to see the devil inside ya”
if that is "hate" to you, i honestly think you don't know how love sounds like. but that's your pov. mine is that you are biased and full of hate against someone that took years or archeological research to show smth that rebukes claims that have no actual solid evidence. research is for those with an open mind. i've heard Dawahs with actual hate in their voice, eyes, mannerisms when talking about or debating anything outside Islam. so... there you go.
@@ragael1024still hasn't finished yet after 1400 years of use I mean at this point its pretty clear yall are just tryna cloak the truth and lie, that's where the problem begins, u guys only speak opinions that u claim to be facts when they have a biased view and u give a clear picture of ur Stance Pretty sad ngl but o well
When Ibrahim (Abraham) left Hagar and Isma'il in the valley of Mecca, the area was completely barren and uninhabited. There were no neighbors or settlements nearby. The valley of Mecca was a remote and desolate place with no water sources or inhabitants at that time. After the discovery of Zamzam, the area eventually attracted a tribe called the Jurhum who settled near the well. The presence of water made the previously barren valley habitable, and it eventually grew into the city of Mecca. However, this settlement occurred after the miraculous appearance of Zamzam and not before.
The theological definition of Zamzam has adapted accordingly. That is, if a drop of Zamzam is mixed with a barrel of normal water, the whole barrel is considered Zamzam.
If the ZamZam (in Mecca) was truly infinite, then Mecca itself now would be a green paradise fed and supported by the waters of the ZamZam. You'd see vast orchards and plantations of fruits and vegetables to support the populace together with gardens and fountains all over the place. A water source that you can drain infinitely would surely be the center of all agricultural power in Arabia. The fact that they don't do this, shows that they know, this thing ain't infinite. What's truly amazing is that this whole myth is kind of like that weird psychology experiment, the Asch conformity experiments, where people are forced to say that one line which is clearly shorter or longer than the others is just the same length as the control line. Most participants are forced to conform to the lie due to group pressure. The ZamZam well in Mecca is clearly not infinite, but they all conform to the lie to save face. Islam in this way has a metric tonne of conformity tests that anyone with a slight bit of logic and observance would instantly recognize as falsehoods but consciously must reject in order to maintain faith. Faith in what? A lie? That's the truly scary part.
The limitations of the well show clearly that the groundwater is scarce and the well only fills during rainy season. Rain will fill the well with polluted surface water, as shown by the old photos with children swimming around the Kaaba. This well is proof that the site was, at best, a village and never a major pilgrimage destination. The work on qanats for irrigation by Queen Zenobia proves that Mecca's own water supply was inadequate for more than a small local population to survive. The idea that this is where the Biblical narrative was located is absurd. The stories of water gushing from rocks is indicative of rift formations in the north, near more unstable tectonic areas.
The zam zam water never runs dry. The Makkans used the water for drinking. They're desert people, why would they use precious water to create beautiful gardens? Their priority is to hydrate themselves, not make gardens to beautify their surrounding! It is only now when they've got the desalination plants that they've started to grow gardens and plant trees all over the kingdom. And this, btw, has been prophecied by Prophet Muhammad pbuh: Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) as saying: The Last Hour will not come before wealth becomes abundant and overflowing, so much so that a man takes Zakat out of his property and cannot find anyone to accept it from him and till the land of Arabia reverts to meadows and rivers. [Sahih Muslim 157c]
@@talltalltrees22 cope. How you can continue to believe the lie is beyond me. It's obvious the water is coming from desalination plants. Why not use the ZamZam if it is truly infinite? Makes no sense. Also Arabia uses aquifers where possible to fuel their agriculture. Why not use ZamZam if it is so magical and healthy according to the tourism myths 😆 Come on bro, are you really this blind?
@@BrutusAlbion //It's obvious the water is coming from desalination plants// This is an emotional statement, not supported by facts, just like what Jay Smith did. //Why not use ZamZam if it is so magical and healthy// Why should they rely on one source of water even if it's abundant? it makes no sense! Already zam zam is used to rejuvenate the pilgrims, and at the rate of pilgrims growth, the saudi government is already challenged in terms of manpower, infrastructure, cost etc. It makes more sense to use desalinated water for agriculture, factories and domestic use.
@@talltalltrees22 Hagar's descendants, the children of Ishmael were not Arabs. They were pre-Ptolemaic Egyptians. There is no connection between Ishmael and Muhammad according to Islamic sources.
@@ameenzakariya Wrong! It was the Wilderness of Beersheba, which is in Judea [modernday Israel between the Wadi Al-Aris and the Dead Sea] [Gen21v14]. Even the Wilderness of Paran is not Mecca, Saudi.
Another thing is the mythological meaning of Zamzam "stop! Stop!". Actually, it refers to the droning sound of the Zoroastrian priests. I know this is the case because a Chinese source Du Huan, who spent over 10 years in Arab and East African lands from 751AD, refers to it as a religion, and Al Tabari and other early Islamic sources refer to Zamzam as a synonym for Zoroastrianism and Zoroastrian priests. Maybe it is time for Islam to stop stop telling lies and myths. 😁
@The Dark Arts - once you have drunk the poisonous wine of Satan while you still exist on earth, you’ll decide eventually whether it’s what you currently claim you want.
@The Dark Arts - in the precious and holy name of Jesus Christ, the Son of the living God, I command that confusion and evil coming from the lying spirits be silent.
Some things you got wrong. Abraham did not live in the Kaabah. He left Hagar / Hajar and Ishmael/ Ishmail in the desert after a long journey. This is according to the Bible and the Quran.
Without lies Islam dies.. Worship Almighty God Creator Savior YHWH Yeshua the I Am of Bible.. or.. Allah the god of Mecca, Muhammad, Quran, Sharia, Jinn, Kabba and Blackstone..
Amen. Makes me appreciate YHWH even more as well as our books. So sad for 2 billion people to be so misled. But it is what it is: ever consider that Islam is roughly 1/3 of the population and everyone else is 2/3? Sort of the same ratio of the angels who fell and the ones who remain with YHWH.
The bible is truth.. But the pastors made it fake later revised version.. I have many things to tell you but you cannot understand now.. When the spirit of truth will come he will tell you everything.. He shall guide you.. He will not speak himself. He will speak as per god.. Prophet coming also lied in bible
Without lies and deception the Islam will be united and stronger then ever Indeed, those who have divided their religion and become sects - you, [O Muhammad], are not [associated] with them in anything. Their affair is only [left] to Allah ; then He will inform them about what they used to do. Chapter (6) sūrat l-anʿām (The Cattle)
Another thing I noticed from the arial photos is a total lack of farms and food. How could Mecca be a major trade center trade when they clearly made nothing and grew nothing.
Come on they grew Lies / Stories / they grew Jihad provide fertilizer and money for further growth of Terrorists all over the world. A great Feat they achieved till todate !!
In theory a place without much in the way of farms, mines, manufactures, or other primary/secondary industries could become a major trade centre if it was located where multiple trade routes happen to cross. Modern Mecca clearly isn't located in such a place, but the lack of farms and food isn't - in and of itself - evidence against it being a major trade centre.
@@stephengray1344 forget anything else people and animals need water to survive, and their wasn't any. Also no evidence of early sketches or pictorial representation of the cuboid shape prior to 1537 that was the first time ever the cuboid was depicted on an Islamic prayer mat. Sarcastically prior to that Arabs of Saudi Arabia did not know how to draw leave alone read or write or were born without logical and artistic bent of mind
@@alonzoharris9049 Firstly, almost all of the scholars who believe the Exodus actually happened put the number of Israelites involved in the Exodus at substantially less than 1 million. The commonly cited figures of 1 million and 2 million are based on assuming that the Hebrew word "eleph" should be translated as "thousand" in the book of Numbers when the word can also be used to mean "clan", "leader", or "military unit" - all of which make sense in the context of counting their military forces. Both the population of Avaris (the city they left from) and the archaeologically confirmed population boom in Canaan during the period they are said to have arrived are far less than 1 million, so these non-numerical readings of the text should probably be preferred. Secondly, the Israelites were not travelling through a desert. During the Late Bronze Age the Sinai peninsula was a savannah. Thirdly, the Exodus account specifically talks about how they got food and water. So these details are explicitly addressed within the text of the Bible. If you want to look into this issue in more detail I would recommend looking either at the Exodus Rediscovered documentaries on the Inspiring Philosophy channel (which detail the evidence put forward for the Exodus by many Egyptologists and Old Testament Scholars): th-cam.com/play/PL1mr9ZTZb3TVhsJ06Zb4FRQfEAVajfDg-.html (the second video in the series specifically deals with evidence related to the 40 years in the wilderness) or looking at the channel Ancient Egypt and the Bible - run by an Egyptologist who has done substantial work on the case for an historical Exodus. Ancient Egypt and the Bible has a weekly Q&A livestream on Friday nights (by Dr Falk's Canadian timezone) if you have any specific questions related to the Exodus.
If it is true that there is that much water under Mecca, the place would have gone down for so many centimeters or even some meters because of the volume of water taken from down under.
That's the miracle of zam zam. It fills up the well only when the water level falls below a certain level. Jay the ignorant said water pipes go into the well to supply desalinated water from Jeddah water plant. That's not true! These pipes are to drain zam zam OUT of the well, not into the well.
Not only gone down but the whole area would have been transformed from its water to green everything WITHOUT a single desalinization plant. Would you rather drink well water that is purified by a massive earthen filter or have to desalt and remove massive amounts of protein from decomposing sea plants and fish poop? They just can't tell the truth and if you go down the path of lying then how can God bless them?
Jay Smith confuse water from well (zam zam) with water for everyday use (from desalination plant). One is pure drinking water (zam zam), the other is salt water which is now so refined compared to years ago when our hair became hard and sticky. Yet this water does not taste like zam zam. Zam Zam has a unique taste. If you havent tried it, pls do! Inside and outside Masjidil Haram are free supplies of both types of water. You can choose to drink Zam Zam or the normal drinking water.
Jay is already one foot in the grave and Allah gives him respite as HE gave Satan, till death knocks on his door and the veils are lifted and his abode will be HELL, IF HE DON'T REPENT.
Both types of water ....... was there so to fool you Pedo followers into thinking there is actually zamzam water. Now you know why King Salman wanted to lessen Islam influence. Too many lies !!! Without lies Islam dies.✌️
ذٰلِكَ الْكِتٰبُ لَا رَيْبَ ۛ فِيْهِ ۛ ھُدًى لِّلْمُتَّقِيْنَ الَّذِيْنَ يُؤْمِنُوْنَ بِالْغَيْبِ وَ يُـقِيْمُوْنَ الصَّلٰوةَ وَ مِمَّا رَزَقْنٰھُمْ يُنْفِقُوْنَ وَ الَّذِيْنَ يُؤْمِنُوْنَ بِمَآ اُنْزِلَ اِلَيْكَ وَمَآ اُنْزِلَ مِنْ قَبْلِكَ ۚ وَبِالْاٰخِرَةِ ھُمْ يُوْقِنُوْنَ اُولٰٓٮِٕكَ عَلٰى هُدًى مِّنۡ رَّبِّهِمۡ وَاُولٰٓٮِٕكَ هُمُ الۡمُفۡلِحُوۡنَ so this message is to the impostor jay and here is the response which is the equivalent of your tiny intelligence which floats in ignorance and it is very touching that Muslims consult your videos who want to convince a deaf blind person اِنَّ الَّذِيۡنَ كَفَرُوۡا سَوَآءٌ عَلَيۡهِمۡ ءَاَنۡذَرۡتَهُمۡ اَمۡ لَمۡ تُنۡذِرۡهُمۡ لَا يُؤۡمِنُوۡنَ خَتَمَ اللّٰهُ عَلَىٰ قُلُوۡبِهِمۡ وَعَلٰى سَمۡعِهِمۡؕ وَعَلٰىٓ اَبۡصَارِهِمۡ غِشَاوَةٌ وَّلَهُمۡ عَذَابٌ عَظِيۡمٌ
In spite of all propaganda against Zam Zam Water and Well, it shine more and more. It is a blessing of God for true believers. Cool for believers. In their great Envy, enemies of God always burning in fire for Fame and Respect of Zam Zam Well. Thank you God for Blessing us with Zam Zam Well.
For perspective, according to the USGS the individual American uses 1/2 a cubic meter of water per day, an exorbitant amount to be sure but there it is. Knock 3 zeros off the 50 million liters quoted in the video and that gives 50 thousand cubic meters, or enough water to satisfy 100,000 average Americans.
This is so incredibly funny. There is so little Zam Zam water that it is fed by desalinated water from the ocean. Taking it & transporting it home is fooling so many ignorant people.
YES - modern technology, water pumps with pipes extract more Zam-Zam water to cater for all the millions in Mecca and bottling for export as the level of the Zam-Zam water does not decrease. th-cam.com/video/Y4k-bdizKgg/w-d-xo.html New ZamZam well opening found in 2018 giving MORE ZAMZAM WATER PROOF th-cam.com/video/QXeweXpnK_4/w-d-xo.html
@@talltalltrees22 Again, nothing but useless words. Tell us WHY Jay's words are wrong. Stop with mindless comments that mean nothing. Give us facts to refute what he is saying. The real world deals in facts so we can make logical decisions. The delusional world of islam presents no facts but just insults.
@@aaabrams1889 The "modern technology" does not extract more Zam-Zam water from the well, it BRINGS IN more water to the well from the desalination plants. The added water is obviously not native water to the well. Don't expect anyone to believe the fairy tale you just presented.
@@sheikhboyardee556 seeing that you believe Jay smith without verifying his story tells me that you don’t care about facts. He, like all christians, pull verses to support the lies in trinity.. and that’s what he did with this Zam Zam story. He pulled info from here and there and stitch them together to fool you people. That’s why I say it’s amazing how easily these kufar believe the lies of islamophobes
The people in Makkah have lived for thousands of years without the desalination plants. And pilgrims to Makkah have been drinking zamzam water and bringing home bottles of zamzam even before they set up these machines to desalinate water from the sea. So why would Jay think the zamzam is from these plants? I started drinking zamzam since 1989 way before Saudi authority started giving out 10 litres of zamzam to each Haj pilgrim. I’ve tasted zamzam. It’s delicious! Has Jay tasted it before? Then how can he be so certain present day zamzam is water from desalination plants? If he goes to Makkah today and say zamzam is from sea water, people will laugh at him and will point to him the taps to drink zamzam and taps to drink water processed from sea. Jay should repent and ask forgiveness from Allah. His hair is white and his time is near. He should stop talking lies about Islam and focus on returning to Allah.
Dr Jay. I am a very experienced Hydrogeologist with 50 years in the industry and have worked in over 50 countries, including Saudi Arabia. I have a PhD Degree in Hydrogeology. Please refer to the Saudi University chemical analyses for Zam Zam. It is barely potable. Historical records show the water table in the well is around 4 to 6m beneath the surface (after heavy rainfall recharge). The water table in the unconfined sand aquifer would then gradually decline as the groundwater drains downstream from the points of recharge. Under these circumstances it is not physically possible for a child to scratch the surface and groundwater springs forth uncontrolled at the surface. This is hydro geologically impossible. There is no way anyone would shout 'stop stop' as nothing would be flowing. The story of Zam Zam is a scam, a myth to justify a Deen, based on false pretenses. Can I please ask that you interview an experienced Hydrogeologist to present the actual hydrogeological reality at Zam Zam.
You are the candidate. Oth, I m appalled that the holy water for healing or wudu is sellable. Water from nature / springs should be free. 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️ 🙏🕊️
@@CHSCRTE - selling water isn’t new and common everywhere on every culture and economy. It’s the tagging of the idea that the water is ‘holey’ that’s both stupid and hilarious.
Here is physical proof that the well of Zamzam is 20 meters from the Kaaba as another point was opened when they did the renovations there. New ZamZam well opening found in 2018 giving MORE ZAMZAM WATER PROOF th-cam.com/video/QXeweXpnK_4/w-d-xo.html
The water needs of the city of Mecca are also the needs of the city of Jeddah which supplies Mecca with goods. However large the population of Jeddah is, add that to the number of people’s needs of both cities. As Muslims with 4 wives each and many children, their population is exploding unless they are sending their excess youths all over the world!
Ratio of men to women world wide is 1:1. Those young men need to find 4 wives somewhere so they will come to our countries to find them. Young 'western' men need to wise up, and fast.
ZamZam well is not from allah but from a hosts of American, Canadian and Spanish desalination plants. These desalination plants helps to also irrigate vast areas of vegetation in SA. Nothing miraculous about this.
Jay Smith confuse water from well (zam zam) with water for everyday use (from desalination plant). One is pure drinking water (zam zam), the other is salt water which is now so refined compared to years ago when our hair became hard and sticky. Yet this water does not taste like zam zam. Zam Zam has a unique taste. If you havent tried it, pls do! Inside and outside Masjidil Haram are free supplies of both types of water. You can choose to drink Zam Zam or the normal drinking water.
Both Jay Smith and Al Fadi are presenting irrefutable truth and reality on the ground pertaining to ZamZam well and water. Of course somebody want to distort this well founded truth and reality. These people are conditioned to deceive everybody to serve the purpose of the devil and the devil they must wait and follow on the day of judgement. If the devil aka the deceiver cant save them, they'll be condemned for eternity. If they think they're correct, why dont they produce their own video to debunk Jay Smith and Al Fadi findings. Even the stones or pebbles pelted at the pillars or jamarat are collected by lorries waiting underneath those pillars. What else is not true about the findings of Jay Smith and Al Fadi?
@@reynoldthemagnificientthun463 why don’t you verify their story? Let’s start from the top. First look for evidence that water from desalination plant is pumped into the well. Water from desalination plant is supplied to homes, schools, hotels, hospitals, restaurants etc. That much is true. This has been the case for decades! But Jay went further to assume this water is also sent to the Zam Zam well. THIS is untrue. The 2 large pipes in the well pumped water out of the well, not into. If you care for the truth, verify this part.
Muna Project Bulk Reservoir Roof Project Client : Ministry of Public Works and Housing, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia Start Date : 1981 Finish Date : August 1986 Key features of Work Scope: The project was the construction of 340 meter diameter stayed reinforced concrete Shell roof to cover approximately 1.000.000 m3 circular bulk water storage reservoir near Al-Maarsine-Makkah. The Project mainly consisted of the construction of 60 m high 88 concrete towers by slipforming technology and 110+60 meter radial concrete beams supported by prestressing cables from these towers, and the installation of precast concrete Shell roof panels 6.5 cm thick.
May Allah's curse be on those who lie about the religion and miracles of Allah, and when the Angel of Death is upon you and the barrier is removed you shall know you were of the Wrongdoers. You are not even allowed into the holy city of Mecca, and you are speaking on things that predate America, and Predate the time of Jesus (PBUH). So why a Christian would have a comment concerning a miracle given to a wife of Ibrahim (PBUH) is beyond me. You cannot see any of the miracles of Jesus (PBUH) which we believe in of course, but all can see the Water of the well of Zam Zam still flowing. So all you do is attempt to mislead more people to what.... the fire? Why should people listen to you? Maybe you should spend your time convincing people to abandon Pagan traditions and Witchcraft. You only confuse a few Muslims, and mislead and lie to non muslims. People dip their fingers in "holy water" from the Catholics, which is "blessed" from a priest... and people go for this... When Jesus (PBUH) walked the earth he was a Prophet who could bless water, as he was sent by Allah as a blessing to the people who he was sent to (Jewish people BTW, who rejected his message).. Now all of a sudden Catholics, who DID NOT exist in the time of Jesus ( PBUH) can suddenly bless water. When did Jesus(PBUH) leave this ability for his followers? This is PURE INNOVATION... Think on this for a second..... If you indeed are a person of Logic. Repent and Learn the true message of Islam, before you are in your grave.. Repent for the lies you tell against Islam. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning) Miserable is the price for which they have sold their souls, in that they deny (the revelation) which Allah has sent down, in insolent envy that Allah of His Grace should send it to any of His servants He pleases: Thus have they drawn on themselves Wrath upon Wrath. And humiliating is the punishment of those who reject Faith. Quran 2:90 They seek to deceive Allah and the believers, yet they only deceive themselves, but they fail to perceive it. There is sickness in their hearts, and Allah ˹only˺ lets their sickness increase. They will suffer a painful punishment for their lies. Quran 2:9-10
Here is my ZamZam story: I had an uncle bring ZamZam water from Hajj. He told me how holy & miraculous the water is etc. I asked him if could have some. He said No. 😂 He kept it all for himself.
I used to share your view until I went on haj. The need to accommodate millions of people converging on the Kaabah and their need for modern accommodation meant that multi storied modern buildings had to replace older low-rise buildings. The massive need for current standard accommodation is such that most pilgrims stay in accommodation 3 kilometres from the Kaabah. The roads always jammed 13:34 13:34 thus many pilgwalked tioo
Mecca is less archeological site, its new town build after Islam. Before Islam there are no mention about Mecca, and this city isn't on ancient trade route. Romans, Sassanids, Egypt, or any civilazation mention about Mecca.
They pump in millions of litres from desalination plants, then they add a cup of water from the original Zam Zam well to millions of litres of water, hey presto now all the pumped-in water is now Zam Zam water. Muslim logic at its best.
I am not a hydrologist or geologist but what I understand is that a natural spring has an underground source like a river or aquifer under pressure that forces water to the surface where it 'springs' out. You find these all over the world. A well is man made. A well or borehole is dug into the earth and either can tap into an underground river source or simply creates a collection point for draining ground water after rains. Basically surface rain water drains into the sands and starts flowing along a natural gradient downwards. Is this 'spring / well' of Zam Zam actually in such a natural gradient. Jay said the legends name a supply valley but that valley goes another way so it could not be the natural slope for Zam Zam. So is it a well dug by man or did a supernatural spring occur in the desert to satisfy Hagar and Ishmael? Has anyone thought that Hagar was of Egyptian origin and so why would she flee away from her known homeland instead of towards it ? How did she survive so long from the known landmarks of Abraham [ outside Jerusalem] to get all the way down to this barren waterless place ? If Abraham was living IN the Kaaba, what was he doing with all the idols while worshipping only 1 God ? Logic, geology, geography, history, human behaviour, science, common sense and simple problem solving seem to have eluded wise men in favour of a fable - a fable with enormous power as it kills it's opponents. Talk about censoring free speech !
EDUCATE YOURSELF as believing LIARS AND DECEIVERS make you a fool JAY is supposed to know Islam as he claimed that he studied Islam but LIE to gullible idiots like you into believing that Abraham lived in the Kaaba or next to the Kaaba😅🤣😂 Abraham lived in Ur and his father was a Idol maker and he broke those idols there in Ur ...but the idiot Jay mixes up the story deliberately to deceive you xtians. After Abraham broke those Idols, according to Islam, he was asked who broke the idols and he pointed to the BIG IDOL that he left and pointed to it... The Pagans were furious and said that the BIG IDOL is only a idol and can't do it, proving Abraham's point that the Idols can't do anything and should not be worshiped. The Pagan in Ur took Abraham to be roasted but a miracle happened and the fire did not burn Abraham. (that is the story from the Muslims) Abraham was still Abram and searched for God in many ways and traveled from Ur along the fertile crescent to Jerusalem. ABRAHAM TRAVELED TO MECCA If Abraham traveled SO FAR from Ur in Irak/Iran to Jerusalem, to Egypt and spoke to Pharaoh (not in Cairo...ha ha ha ) whose Palaces and Temples were situated almost as far as Mecca (on the opposite side of the Red Sea in Egypt) AND making it back to Jerusalem, then making it to Mecca would be no problem to Abraham as he was guided by God and secondly, there were well established caravan routes with small towns and oasis's along the way. Mecca is there and was Established by Hagar and Ismail when Abraham left them there. There are also well documented studies from Jewish scholars to back this up. The Ref to Habakkuk is to tell you about the children of Ismael, Tema not Abraham, inhabited the area around Mecca and Medina. If you think that Mecca was NOT established in Paran and they built built the Kaaba, then your bible scholars would not say that Jews and Heathens worshiped at the Kaaba BEFORE Mohammad (saw). The References from your Bible Study from your Xtian scholars, not Muslim makes it clear that Mecca and Medina was well known before Mohammad (saw) by Jews and Arab Pagans - both worshiped at the Kaaba. EXAMPLES Psalms 59:1 (at the time of David) Michtam The seven poems of the celebrated Arabian poets who flourished before the time of Mohammed, called {Mollakat,} from being suspended on the walls of the temple of Mecca, were also called {Modhabat,} "golden," because they were written in letters of gold on the papyrus; and probably this is another reason why the six poems of David were called golden. REF www.biblestudytools.com/concordances/treasury-of-scripture-knowledge/psalms-59-1.html Psalm 44:20 Stretched out our hands to a strange god. The stretching out the hand towards an object of devotion, or an holy place, was an ancient usage among the Jews and heathens BOTH, and it continues in the East at this time, which continuance I do not remember to have seen remarked. That this attitude in prayer has continued among the Eastern people, appears by the following passage from Pitts, in his account of the religion and manners of the Mohammedans. Speaking of the Algerians throwing wax candles and pots of oil overboard, as a present to some marabbot (or Mohammedan saint), Pitt goes on, and says, "When this is done, they all together hold up their hands, begging the marabbot's blessing, and a prosperous voyage." In the same page he tells us, "the marabbots have generally a little neat room built over their graves, resembling in figure their mosques or churches, which is very nicely cleaned, and well looked after." And in the succeeding page he tells us, "Many people there are who will scarce pass by any of them without lifting up their hand, and saying some short prayer." In like manner, he tells us, that at quitting the Beat, or HOLY HOUSE AT MECCA, to which they make DEVOUT PILGRIMAGES, "they hold up their hands towards the Beat, making earnest petitions." REF www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/treasury-of-david/psalms-44-20.html Genesis 10:30 (at the time of Abraham) And their dwelling was from Mesha, as thou goest unto Zephar, a mount of the east.Mesha is Mecca and Zephar is Medina. REF www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/gills-exposition-of-the-bible/genesis-10-30.html TEMA - an oasis which lies about 200 miles North of el-Medina, and some 40 miles South of Dumat el-Jandal (Dumah), now known as el-Jauf. It is on the ancient caravan road REF www.biblestudytools.com/encyclopedias/isbe/tema.html Rechab The invasion of Judah by Nebuchadnezzar, in B.C. 607, drove the Rechabites from their tents to Jerusalem, where they stood proof against temptation, and were specially blessed. ( Jeremiah 35:2-19 ) There is much of interest in relation to the present condition of these people. Dr. Wolf reports that the Jews of Jerusalem and Yemen told him that he would find the Rechabites of Jere 35 living near Mecca, in the mountainous country northeast of Medina. When he came near Senaa he came in contact with a tribe, the Beni-Khabir , who identified themselves with the sons of Jehonadab REF www.biblestudytools.com/dictionaries/smiths-bible-dictionary/rechab.html OH YES, MOSES ALSO DID THE PILGRIMAGE TO MECCA when he fled Egypt and married a Medionite and became the son in-law of Jethro, (Shoab) who was the High priest of the Kaaba. Moses spoke to God on Mount Sinai which is in Arabia not the Sinai peninsular - he also led the exodus via Mecca and settled in the wilderness. th-cam.com/video/Ym7sJJIk-FY/w-d-xo.html
No one should believe Jay Smith who constantly lies about Islam. Abraham did not live in the kaabah nor in Makkah. He left Hagar and baby ismael in the desert of Makkah. This is the timeline as per Islamic source: Abraham walked Hagar and baby Ismael to the desert in Arabia. Exact location, we dont know. Abraham walked away, leaving mother and infant in the desert. Ismael cried and Hagar placed him down in search of water. She walked between the hills of Safa and Marwa looking for signs of life where she could get water. An Angel came to strike the ground and out spurt water, which is known as zam zam today. Mother and child were supported by this lifeline. Soon arabs got to know about this place and it flourished. Hagar shared the water with them but made clear she's the owner of zam zam. Years later Abraham came and together with Ismael, rebuilt the kaabah. We believe Adam was the first to build the kaabah but due to passing of time, it eroded. The arabs learnt about Allah and the rituals around Kaabah from Abraham and Ismael. But their religion became contaminated with idolatry. The guardianship of Kaabah and Zam Zam well continued to be in the hands of Ismael's descendants till the days of Prophet Muhammad pbuh. It was his tribe, Banu Hashim that was the custodian of the Kaabah and zam zam well. Prophet Muhammad pbuh returned mankind to the true teachings of Abraham and demolished all idols around Kaabah and kept the circling ritual once taught by Abraham. All other haj rituals are to commemorate this family's journey in their worship of Allah.
Congratulation on finding those references. I was in a written debate with a sheikh a few years ago and debated the existence of Mecca and showed him via copy/paste where a French company had renovated some pipes from the mountains and from Jeddah. He was flabbergasted. Two weeks later I went to save these for future reference and the pages were gone, wiped and I had kept no links.
EDUCATE YOURSELF as believing LIARS AND DECEIVERS make you a fool... JAY is supposed to know Islam as he claimed that he studied Islam but LIE to gullible idiots like you into believing that Abraham lived in the Kaaba or next to the Kaaba😅🤣😂 Abraham lived in Ur and his father was a Idol maker and he broke those idols there in Ur ...but the idiot Jay mixes up the story deliberately to deceive you xtians. After Abraham broke those Idols, according to Islam, he was asked who broke the idols and he pointed to the BIG IDOL that he left and pointed to it... The Pagans were furious and said that the BIG IDOL is only a idol and can't do it, proving Abraham's point that the Idols can't do anything and should not be worshiped. The Pagan in Ur took Abraham to be roasted but a miracle happened and the fire did not burn Abraham. (that is the story from the Muslims) Abraham was still Abram and searched for God in many ways and traveled from Ur along the fertile crescent to Jerusalem. ABRAHAM TRAVELED TO MECCA If Abraham traveled SO FAR from Ur in Irak/Iran to Jerusalem, to Egypt and spoke to Pharaoh (not in Cairo...ha ha ha ) whose Palaces and Temples were situated almost as far as Mecca (on the opposite side of the Red Sea in Egypt) AND making it back to Jerusalem, then making it to Mecca would be no problem to Abraham as he was guided by God and secondly, there were well established caravan routes with small towns and oasis's along the way. Mecca is there and was Established by Hagar and Ismail when Abraham left them there. There are also well documented studies from Jewish scholars to back this up. The Ref to Habakkuk is to tell you about the children of Ismael, Tema not Abraham, inhabited the area around Mecca and Medina. If you think that Mecca was NOT established in Paran and they built built the Kaaba, then your bible scholars would not say that Jews and Heathens worshiped at the Kaaba BEFORE Mohammad (saw). The References from your Bible Study from your Xtian scholars, not Muslim makes it clear that Mecca and Medina was well known before Mohammad (saw) by Jews and Arab Pagans - both worshiped at the Kaaba. EXAMPLES Psalms 59:1 (at the time of David) Michtam The seven poems of the celebrated Arabian poets who flourished before the time of Mohammed, called {Mollakat,} from being suspended on the walls of the temple of Mecca, were also called {Modhabat,} "golden," because they were written in letters of gold on the papyrus; and probably this is another reason why the six poems of David were called golden. REF www.biblestudytools.com/concordances/treasury-of-scripture-knowledge/psalms-59-1.html Psalm 44:20 Stretched out our hands to a strange god. The stretching out the hand towards an object of devotion, or an holy place, was an ancient usage among the Jews and heathens BOTH, and it continues in the East at this time, which continuance I do not remember to have seen remarked. That this attitude in prayer has continued among the Eastern people, appears by the following passage from Pitts, in his account of the religion and manners of the Mohammedans. Speaking of the Algerians throwing wax candles and pots of oil overboard, as a present to some marabbot (or Mohammedan saint), Pitt goes on, and says, "When this is done, they all together hold up their hands, begging the marabbot's blessing, and a prosperous voyage." In the same page he tells us, "the marabbots have generally a little neat room built over their graves, resembling in figure their mosques or churches, which is very nicely cleaned, and well looked after." And in the succeeding page he tells us, "Many people there are who will scarce pass by any of them without lifting up their hand, and saying some short prayer." In like manner, he tells us, that at quitting the Beat, or HOLY HOUSE AT MECCA, to which they make DEVOUT PILGRIMAGES, "they hold up their hands towards the Beat, making earnest petitions." REF www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/treasury-of-david/psalms-44-20.html Genesis 10:30 (at the time of Abraham) And their dwelling was from Mesha, as thou goest unto Zephar, a mount of the east.Mesha is Mecca and Zephar is Medina. REF www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/gills-exposition-of-the-bible/genesis-10-30.html TEMA - an oasis which lies about 200 miles North of el-Medina, and some 40 miles South of Dumat el-Jandal (Dumah), now known as el-Jauf. It is on the ancient caravan road REF www.biblestudytools.com/encyclopedias/isbe/tema.html Rechab The invasion of Judah by Nebuchadnezzar, in B.C. 607, drove the Rechabites from their tents to Jerusalem, where they stood proof against temptation, and were specially blessed. ( Jeremiah 35:2-19 ) There is much of interest in relation to the present condition of these people. Dr. Wolf reports that the Jews of Jerusalem and Yemen told him that he would find the Rechabites of Jere 35 living near Mecca, in the mountainous country northeast of Medina. When he came near Senaa he came in contact with a tribe, the Beni-Khabir , who identified themselves with the sons of Jehonadab REF www.biblestudytools.com/dictionaries/smiths-bible-dictionary/rechab.html OH YES, MOSES ALSO DID THE PILGRIMAGE TO MECCA when he fled Egypt and married a Medionite and became the son in-law of Jethro, (Shoab) who was the High priest of the Kaaba. Moses spoke to God on Mount Sinai which is in Arabia not the Sinai peninsular - he also led the exodus via Mecca and settled in the wilderness. th-cam.com/video/Ym7sJJIk-FY/w-d-xo.html
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the event of zamzam happened before the the construction of Kaaba and Ibrahim did not live in mecca, when Ismail grew we believe that god commanded him to construct the Kabbah with Ismail
@@daduzadude1547 Break it down, Sir. I want you to tell me why *'a Jew is YHWH' and why **'YHWH is Jew', given that the standard narrative is that YHWH means 'I am that I am' and that a Jew is someone from Judea. ***Show me the connection between the terms 'Jew' and 'YHWH'. 🙂
It's a shame that you have decided to delete my comment, instead of allowing a discussion to take place. It shows that you are more interested in portraying your own narrative rather then allowing people to make up thier own minds.
Didn't watch all of it however I saw a big mistake, which is Abraham lived in Mecca, which no Muslim claimed !! Infact the evidence suggests he didn't and only visited there a very few times !!! No one lived in Mecca back then !!
@@Draezeth It's how it is with too many. First thing one often hears is, "I'm not a scholar" and they have to check with their Imam, who of course will lie to them. It gives an idea of what Martin Luther was trying to end when the established empiracal Church fed their parishioners stories and lies & had no access to the scriptures themselves to learn for themselves. It's so sad that so many people who would make great Christians are caught in a cesspool of lies & deceit.
Good point, but because they're so brainwashed it wont matter to them, if you recall yasir quadi in his infamous interview with muhamad No'hijab when he said that "the islamic narrative of the foundations of islam have holes in them" muslims weren't phased by all the lies they've been told their whole lives, their brains go into automatic shutdown when they hear the truth. unbelievable...
GINAWA ANG TAO HUBO AT HUBAD ITO WALA ITONG DALA SA MUNDO KAYA LILISAN O YAYAON DALA ANG GINAWA MO MABUTI MAN O MASAMA ITO. 2CORINTO 5:10. HEBREO 4:12. PAHAYAG O APOCALIPSIS 20:6.
Dear Jay, there is a comment by David Bond. He refers to the official Saudi Arabian TH-cam Vid to the Zamzam well th-cam.com/video/ZL3MJb_djUU/w-d-xo.html on 4:53 to 4:56 there is told the well will spent water between 11l/s and 18,5l/s that's about 1,6 million Liter per day at maximum (18,5x60sx60mx24hours). But on minute 11:29 they say 1,5 million 10l Bottles are filled up per day!! Ten times more than the well can give according to there own Data.
Jay Smith confuse water from well (zam zam) with water for everyday use (from desalination plant). One is pure drinking water (zam zam), the other is salt water which is now so refined compared to years ago when our hair became hard and sticky. Yet this water does not taste like zam zam. Zam Zam has a unique taste. If you havent tried it, pls do! Inside and outside Masjidil Haram are free supplies of both types of water. You can choose to drink Zam Zam or the normal drinking water.
Very simple answer to the question you pose in between. There WAS no Kaaba there when Hagar was left there first. There was nothing. It was built by Ibrahim and his son years later as commanded by God. Ibrahim prophet did not live there. He visited several times and made the call for Hajj, but didn’t live there.
Wow, if that really was the well of Hagar, isn't it a bit irreverent to put this huge industrial machinery all over it? And then sell it all over the world? Something is off here, regardless of the truth to the claims.
When Islamophobes think they know more than scholars that dedicated their whole life to Islam. Hilarious to read the comments in here. Endless clownery. Endless entertainment.
Bro, as a Muslim i know the ZAM ZAM which is not drown by pilgrims themselves but sold in market even i mecha is a biggest scam Muslims are doing to Muslims..
Let me correct *Ibrahim was leaving in Jerusalem not in Makkah *bibi hajra wasn’t thrown out of Makkah. * after Makkah had water people begin to come and live there.
They have to keep saying it Jaty so WE can know the truth. People often play dumb and stupid when you start a conversation about these things but once the miracle story tellers have said it one can be excused for checking it out for the truth.
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I worked there , been there dozens of time. Water for the city and hotels is from desalination plant in jeddah , water from Zamzam is only for drinking in the holy mosques. I am US citizen, if you want to try by yourself go buy zamzam bottle from Middle East grocery store, you can taste the difference. Sitting in front of books does not make you researcher. National Institute of Health done a research paper about zamzam water and its chemical composition. You can read that .
I agree that sitting in a room of books isn't enough. But then what makes you worth listening to. You talk like you know something, but the only thing you said is the waters taste different. How does taste change it? Because at the end of the day, it's just water. There is nothing magical in it unless there's minerals in it with the only ability to rehydrate the body.
@@Polemistis0416 good point, there is a research paper by NIH , about chemical composition of zamzam water , Zamzam water has high density, which is 1.01 in turn, its salinity is high to it is about 17.4. While bottled water density is 1, and its salinity is about 4
@@Polemistis0416 NIH has a paper, you can read that about zamzam water composition and properties how its different.
It's amazing how people believe in Jay's cute little story about the zam zam well. Jay is a kafir. He doesnt believe in the miracle of Allah! He doesnt believe that a well that small could supply endless pure drinking water for millions of pilgrims. "52 million litres a day that little well?" Yes, Jay Smith! That little well does it every day! And it's not being supplied with desalinated water from Jeddah. That's his error! The water in the well is supplied by Allah Himself!
The unique property of the zam zam well is that it fills up every time the water falls below a certain level.
Zam zam is free, no one has to pay for it unless it's purchased outside of Saudi or from shops selling them in Makkah, for those who do not bother to fill up their own bottles.
Answering Jay's questions:
1) Hagar was left there with baby Ismael. Abraham left them there. Abraham did NOT live in Makkah.
There were NO houses around the Kaabah. Kaabah was not even there! There were only foundation stones that Abraham when he rebuilt the Kaabah with Ismael when he's older.
That cite where Hagar found water became an attractive spot for other arabs but she made it clear, the well belongs to her.
2) The well does NOT supply the needs of Muslims all around the world. It only supplies water to the pilgrims. Jay is making a wild and foolish claim!
3) There are no pipes coming TO the well. There are only 2 large pipes drawing water OUT of the well. Pilgrim may drink zam zam water from taps outside the Masjid, from water tanks placed all around the Masjid, or go to the nearest pump station where they can fill large bottles to take home.
4) Desalination plants DO NOT send water to the zam zam well. Desalinated water is for use in hotels, houses, restaurants for everyday use: cooking, washing, etc. This water is pumped to the buildings. It's strange that Jay thinks the desalinated water goes to the zam zam well, and then re-pumped to the buildings! This desalinated water that we get from the taps tastes DIFFERENT from the water of zam zam. Jay Smith doesnt know because he has never tasted these 2 waters!!
5) Saudi Arabia does not laugh all the way to the bank because zam zam water is FREE! Each pilgrim is given 5 litres of zam zam for FREE. On top of that we can fill up our own bottles if we want and they're FREE.
This is a documentary of the well which Jay took a screenshot from but completely ignored the facts presented in the video and invent his own story. Watch: th-cam.com/video/ZL3MJb_djUU/w-d-xo.html
Alhamdulillah.. all praises to Allah for the blessed water
I am sorry that you are hurting so much bro! Go take a swig of the scam scam and you will feel much better.
@@stingray4980 When the sons of the devil talk, we only feel sorry for them.
@@talltalltrees22 If you mention "devil" then I am duty bound to remind u that your prophet himself admitted that he recieved his verses from satan (hence the Satanic Verses). So you might have to rethink and reflect as to who are the real children of the devil!
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The more you scratch, the more you find.
The more you find, the more they whine.
The more they whine, the more we shine.
Oh how sublime.
Oh how sublime indeed
They scratch until they bleed
But there’s nothing to be found or seen
Just a dum old l-rd who’s s-thing at tawheed 🤡🤪
TH-cam censors my poem but not yours, I knew YT loved crossworshippers but damn. 🤣
@@Isa_is_the_Messenger_of_Allah jesus rebuked satan 3 times when satan tempted him while he was fasting 40 days in the wilderness... muhamad was deceived by satan into revealing false revelations with the satanic versus, and muhamad, his companions & the qureysh prostrated to the three daughters of allah and all committed shirk. so what do you expect from muhamad who was a black stone kissing pagan like his father was..jesus is god, allah is satan and muhamad is the messenger of satan...
@@thearmouredsaint164 Isaiah 14 proves your deity is Lucifer, the morning star.
@@thearmouredsaint164 Black stone kissing is in your Bible [Isaiah 6:5-7]. 🤣
Zamzam water doesn't go to homes via pipes in Mecca. Those homes are supplied with water through other means. When you turn on a faucet or take a shower at a home in Mecca you aren't getting Zamzam water. Your getting regular water from other means. Zamzam water is supplied by bottles and drinking fountains in the Mosque of the Kaaba and possibly other means that I don't know about. Your argument was based on the assumption the Zamzam well provides water to every home in Mecca so there is not enough water to go around so the Saudi government is lying about Zamzam water. The Zamzam well doesn't supply water to homes via pipes which means when your buying or drinking Zamzam water from government official places and sources your getting Zamzam water, not water from desalination plants. To say the well holds infinite water is impossible and nothing from the Quran or Sahih Hadith say the well has infinite water. If anyone really wants to know the truth go to your local Mosque and ask a Sheikh.
well, we all know what the Sheikh will say, and why would i ask a mosque in London about stuff in Mecca? of course, we cannot go to Mecca.
still, his take on the Zamzam well providing water to all of Mecca today was to rebute some muslim claims, not to enforce a christian claim. muslims are the ones that say the well provided enough water for a whole city because it was adequate enough. and this was to rebuke Dr. Jay's claim that there was no water in Mecca, and thus, no city.
@@ragael1024 It doesn't matter what some Muslims say. Rebuking them means nothing. If he didn't rebuke the Quran or Hadith which he won't then this video is pointless.
@@IzzoAiHe did, watch his other vids
@@LoveAndPeace2004 Did he changed his argument because this was one was clearly wrong. I dont even need to look at his new argument because what he is arguing is absurd and absolutely baseless. Anyone living in Mecca will tell you how absurd this argument sounds. As absurd as saying the sky is not blue. This argument just sounds like a baseless absurd conspiracy theory like saying the earth is flat. I'm at a lost for words how anyone can believe this. Its insane.
Everything about thus superstition is fake
After the lie has been exposed,this days they don't talk about Zam zam water.
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This video points out facts about a well. A well is a hole. There is a hole in the narrative.
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Your mangod couldn’t walk on water anymore. He had holes in his feet.
@@alonzoharris9049 Insulting Jesus is free speech but it's not my answer you should be concerned with.
If the well was for Abraham, why are his progeny and the people of the book barred from it.
LOL good question. Because they believe they have the final "revelation" and that really, the "people of the book" are inferior, hence the need for the "final" revelation. It's all so clever because they claim "the book" is corrupted and theirs is the only perfect unblemished & unchanged for 1400 years. This is what they are taught. (among many other things that are wrong & incorrect, as well as ficitonal).
Muslims lie. Its part of their religion and considered acceptable practice.
Good question! 😁😁
who told you his progeny are barred from it? They were the custodians of zam zam well and the kaabah even during the time of Prophet Muhammad pbuh
@@talltalltrees22 Are Jews the progeny of Abraham? Are Jews allowed at the well or in Mecca? Does Abraham have progeny who are not Muslims today? Are non-muslims at the Kaaba, or at the Zamzam well?
I’m a 48 practicing Muslim I grew up culturally in a Muslim household. I have never had ZamZam water in my life and never seen it sold where I live. I only had tap water or other kind of bottled water. I don’t mind your critical analysis or critical thinking. You are entitled to your opinion, but I’m not sure if you can hear yourself that there is hate in your voice. You are doing this out of hate. So obvious. There is a saying “Pointing the finger and failing to see the devil inside ya”
if that is "hate" to you, i honestly think you don't know how love sounds like. but that's your pov. mine is that you are biased and full of hate against someone that took years or archeological research to show smth that rebukes claims that have no actual solid evidence. research is for those with an open mind. i've heard Dawahs with actual hate in their voice, eyes, mannerisms when talking about or debating anything outside Islam. so... there you go.
The Truth to fools is HATE....when you are confronted by FACTS you shout HATE.....fools
This channel is dedicated to hate on Islam and spread fake news. Just like their fake corrupted religion.
when you said "I'm 48 years practicing muslim" is too doubtable😂 stop your lie
@@ragael1024still hasn't finished yet after 1400 years of use
I mean at this point its pretty clear yall are just tryna cloak the truth and lie, that's where the problem begins, u guys only speak opinions that u claim to be facts when they have a biased view and u give a clear picture of ur Stance
Pretty sad ngl but o well
Truth comes out when its searched for and it will continue to shine through. 🙏🕊
Where does the same Zam Zam water, after used, which turns into 54 million litre of sewage water, are disposed into which part of the town of Makkah?
I'm not Muslim but this well is waaay older than the USA!😅
When Ibrahim (Abraham) left Hagar and Isma'il in the valley of Mecca, the area was completely barren and uninhabited. There were no neighbors or settlements nearby. The valley of Mecca was a remote and desolate place with no water sources or inhabitants at that time.
After the discovery of Zamzam, the area eventually attracted a tribe called the Jurhum who settled near the well. The presence of water made the previously barren valley habitable, and it eventually grew into the city of Mecca. However, this settlement occurred after the miraculous appearance of Zamzam and not before.
The theological definition of Zamzam has adapted accordingly. That is, if a drop of Zamzam is mixed with a barrel of normal water, the whole barrel is considered Zamzam.
That's fake, any rational Muslim knows that.
If this was the case, sooner or later all water on earth would be considered zamzam
Just goes to show that Christ made wine from water, but Mohammed makes water from water.
Unbelievable !!!
I think if I lived in a place with an inexhaustible natural source of water I wouldn't let the area be a dessert for long.
Very true !
Have you been to Saudi arabia recently? And do you know how the Sun and the climate work looool.
If the ZamZam (in Mecca) was truly infinite, then Mecca itself now would be a green paradise fed and supported by the waters of the ZamZam. You'd see vast orchards and plantations of fruits and vegetables to support the populace together with gardens and fountains all over the place. A water source that you can drain infinitely would surely be the center of all agricultural power in Arabia. The fact that they don't do this, shows that they know, this thing ain't infinite. What's truly amazing is that this whole myth is kind of like that weird psychology experiment, the Asch conformity experiments, where people are forced to say that one line which is clearly shorter or longer than the others is just the same length as the control line. Most participants are forced to conform to the lie due to group pressure. The ZamZam well in Mecca is clearly not infinite, but they all conform to the lie to save face. Islam in this way has a metric tonne of conformity tests that anyone with a slight bit of logic and observance would instantly recognize as falsehoods but consciously must reject in order to maintain faith. Faith in what? A lie? That's the truly scary part.
So in lay men terms muslims brains are filled with zombie juice that wont let them think for themselves, spot on 👍 i agree...
The limitations of the well show clearly that the groundwater is scarce and the well only fills during rainy season. Rain will fill the well with polluted surface water, as shown by the old photos with children swimming around the Kaaba. This well is proof that the site was, at best, a village and never a major pilgrimage destination. The work on qanats for irrigation by Queen Zenobia proves that Mecca's own water supply was inadequate for more than a small local population to survive. The idea that this is where the Biblical narrative was located is absurd. The stories of water gushing from rocks is indicative of rift formations in the north, near more unstable tectonic areas.
The zam zam water never runs dry. The Makkans used the water for drinking. They're desert people, why would they use precious water to create beautiful gardens? Their priority is to hydrate themselves, not make gardens to beautify their surrounding! It is only now when they've got the desalination plants that they've started to grow gardens and plant trees all over the kingdom. And this, btw, has been prophecied by Prophet Muhammad pbuh:
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) as saying:
The Last Hour will not come before wealth becomes abundant and overflowing, so much so that a man takes Zakat out of his property and cannot find anyone to accept it from him and till the land of Arabia reverts to meadows and rivers.
[Sahih Muslim 157c]
@@talltalltrees22 cope.
How you can continue to believe the lie is beyond me. It's obvious the water is coming from desalination plants. Why not use the ZamZam if it is truly infinite?
Makes no sense.
Also Arabia uses aquifers where possible to fuel their agriculture. Why not use ZamZam if it is so magical and healthy according to the tourism myths 😆
Come on bro, are you really this blind?
@@BrutusAlbion //It's obvious the water is coming from desalination plants//
This is an emotional statement, not supported by facts, just like what Jay Smith did.
//Why not use ZamZam if it is so magical and healthy//
Why should they rely on one source of water even if it's abundant? it makes no sense! Already zam zam is used to rejuvenate the pilgrims, and at the rate of pilgrims growth, the saudi government is already challenged in terms of manpower, infrastructure, cost etc. It makes more sense to use desalinated water for agriculture, factories and domestic use.
Hagar was never in Saudi Arabia. She ran out of water before reaching the Jordan.
How do you explain her son’s descendants flourishing in Arabia?
@@talltalltrees22 Hagar's descendants, the children of Ishmael were not Arabs. They were pre-Ptolemaic Egyptians. There is no connection between Ishmael and Muhammad according to Islamic sources.
also Abraham was never in south Arabia, there is no historical evidence of him building kaaba
But in Paran. According to your Testaments. 😂😂😂
@@ameenzakariya Wrong! It was the Wilderness of Beersheba, which is in Judea [modernday Israel between the Wadi Al-Aris and the Dead Sea] [Gen21v14].
Even the Wilderness of Paran is not Mecca, Saudi.
Another thing is the mythological meaning of Zamzam "stop! Stop!". Actually, it refers to the droning sound of the Zoroastrian priests. I know this is the case because a Chinese source Du Huan, who spent over 10 years in Arab and East African lands from 751AD, refers to it as a religion, and Al Tabari and other early Islamic sources refer to Zamzam as a synonym for Zoroastrianism and Zoroastrian priests. Maybe it is time for Islam to stop stop telling lies and myths. 😁
Maybe it’s time’?
It’s waaaayy past.
Well, well well!
@The Dark Arts - once you have drunk the poisonous wine of Satan while you still exist on earth, you’ll decide eventually whether it’s what you currently claim you want.
@@gavinjames1145 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Zam, zam, zam!
@The Dark Arts - in the precious and holy name of Jesus Christ, the Son of the living God, I command that confusion and evil coming from the lying spirits be silent.
Some things you got wrong. Abraham did not live in the Kaabah. He left Hagar / Hajar and Ishmael/ Ishmail in the desert after a long journey. This is according to the Bible and the Quran.
Without lies Islam dies..
Worship Almighty God Creator Savior YHWH Yeshua the I Am of Bible.. or..
Allah the god of Mecca, Muhammad, Quran, Sharia, Jinn, Kabba and Blackstone..
Amen. Makes me appreciate YHWH even more as well as our books. So sad for 2 billion people to be so misled. But it is what it is: ever consider that Islam is roughly 1/3 of the population and everyone else is 2/3? Sort of the same ratio of the angels who fell and the ones who remain with YHWH.
@@MollyPitcher1778
Yes..
Amen..!
The bible is truth.. But the pastors made it fake later revised version.. I have many things to tell you but you cannot understand now.. When the spirit of truth will come he will tell you everything.. He shall guide you.. He will not speak himself. He will speak as per god.. Prophet coming also lied in bible
Without lies and deception the Islam will be united and stronger then ever
Indeed, those who have divided their religion and become sects - you, [O Muhammad], are not [associated] with them in anything. Their affair is only [left] to Allah ; then He will inform them about what they used to do.
Chapter (6) sūrat l-anʿām (The Cattle)
Another thing I noticed from the arial photos is a total lack of farms and food. How could Mecca be a major trade center trade when they clearly made nothing and grew nothing.
Come on they grew Lies / Stories / they grew Jihad provide fertilizer and money for further growth of Terrorists all over the world. A great Feat they achieved till todate !!
In theory a place without much in the way of farms, mines, manufactures, or other primary/secondary industries could become a major trade centre if it was located where multiple trade routes happen to cross. Modern Mecca clearly isn't located in such a place, but the lack of farms and food isn't - in and of itself - evidence against it being a major trade centre.
@@stephengray1344 forget anything else people and animals need water to survive, and their wasn't any. Also no evidence of early sketches or pictorial representation of the cuboid shape prior to 1537 that was the first time ever the cuboid was depicted on an Islamic prayer mat. Sarcastically prior to that Arabs of Saudi Arabia did not know how to draw leave alone read or write or were born without logical and artistic bent of mind
How did a million Israelites survive for 40 years in the desert in your bible?🥴🤣
@@alonzoharris9049 Firstly, almost all of the scholars who believe the Exodus actually happened put the number of Israelites involved in the Exodus at substantially less than 1 million. The commonly cited figures of 1 million and 2 million are based on assuming that the Hebrew word "eleph" should be translated as "thousand" in the book of Numbers when the word can also be used to mean "clan", "leader", or "military unit" - all of which make sense in the context of counting their military forces. Both the population of Avaris (the city they left from) and the archaeologically confirmed population boom in Canaan during the period they are said to have arrived are far less than 1 million, so these non-numerical readings of the text should probably be preferred.
Secondly, the Israelites were not travelling through a desert. During the Late Bronze Age the Sinai peninsula was a savannah.
Thirdly, the Exodus account specifically talks about how they got food and water. So these details are explicitly addressed within the text of the Bible.
If you want to look into this issue in more detail I would recommend looking either at the Exodus Rediscovered documentaries on the Inspiring Philosophy channel (which detail the evidence put forward for the Exodus by many Egyptologists and Old Testament Scholars): th-cam.com/play/PL1mr9ZTZb3TVhsJ06Zb4FRQfEAVajfDg-.html (the second video in the series specifically deals with evidence related to the 40 years in the wilderness) or looking at the channel Ancient Egypt and the Bible - run by an Egyptologist who has done substantial work on the case for an historical Exodus. Ancient Egypt and the Bible has a weekly Q&A livestream on Friday nights (by Dr Falk's Canadian timezone) if you have any specific questions related to the Exodus.
If it is true that there is that much water under Mecca, the place would have gone down for so many centimeters or even some meters because of the volume of water taken from down under.
That's the miracle of zam zam. It fills up the well only when the water level falls below a certain level. Jay the ignorant said water pipes go into the well to supply desalinated water from Jeddah water plant. That's not true! These pipes are to drain zam zam OUT of the well, not into the well.
Not only gone down but the whole area would have been transformed from its water to green everything WITHOUT a single desalinization plant. Would you rather drink well water that is purified by a massive earthen filter or have to desalt and remove massive amounts of protein from decomposing sea plants and fish poop? They just can't tell the truth and if you go down the path of lying then how can God bless them?
Exactly !
They are using sea water, desalinate and send to jamjam via pipe.
They are using sea water, desalinate and send to jamjam via pipe.
Careful not to anger those Arabs….the west would never survive without their oil and money. 😂
Other way round...look at immigration patterns..
He should do area 57 😂
Jay Smith confuse water from well (zam zam) with water for everyday use (from desalination plant). One is pure drinking water (zam zam), the other is salt water which is now so refined compared to years ago when our hair became hard and sticky. Yet this water does not taste like zam zam. Zam Zam has a unique taste. If you havent tried it, pls do! Inside and outside Masjidil Haram are free supplies of both types of water. You can choose to drink Zam Zam or the normal drinking water.
Jay makes it his career to lie about Islam
Jay is already one foot in the grave and Allah gives him respite as HE gave Satan, till death knocks on his door and the veils are lifted and his abode will be HELL, IF HE DON'T REPENT.
How can I taste this if any tests are prohibited by me, a non-Muslim?
@@sali7706 Kindly produce evidence of your claim.
Koran 2:111 Bring your proof, if you are truthful
Both types of water ....... was there so to fool you Pedo followers into thinking there is actually zamzam water.
Now you know why King Salman wanted to lessen Islam influence. Too many lies !!!
Without lies Islam dies.✌️
ذٰلِكَ الْكِتٰبُ لَا رَيْبَ ۛ فِيْهِ ۛ ھُدًى لِّلْمُتَّقِيْنَ
الَّذِيْنَ يُؤْمِنُوْنَ بِالْغَيْبِ وَ يُـقِيْمُوْنَ الصَّلٰوةَ وَ مِمَّا رَزَقْنٰھُمْ يُنْفِقُوْنَ
وَ الَّذِيْنَ يُؤْمِنُوْنَ بِمَآ اُنْزِلَ اِلَيْكَ وَمَآ اُنْزِلَ مِنْ قَبْلِكَ ۚ وَبِالْاٰخِرَةِ ھُمْ يُوْقِنُوْنَ
اُولٰٓٮِٕكَ عَلٰى هُدًى مِّنۡ رَّبِّهِمۡ وَاُولٰٓٮِٕكَ هُمُ الۡمُفۡلِحُوۡنَ
so this message is to the impostor jay and here is the response which is the equivalent of your tiny intelligence which floats in ignorance and it is very touching that Muslims consult your videos who want to convince a deaf blind person
اِنَّ الَّذِيۡنَ كَفَرُوۡا سَوَآءٌ عَلَيۡهِمۡ ءَاَنۡذَرۡتَهُمۡ اَمۡ لَمۡ تُنۡذِرۡهُمۡ لَا يُؤۡمِنُوۡنَ
خَتَمَ اللّٰهُ عَلَىٰ قُلُوۡبِهِمۡ وَعَلٰى سَمۡعِهِمۡؕ وَعَلٰىٓ اَبۡصَارِهِمۡ غِشَاوَةٌ وَّلَهُمۡ عَذَابٌ عَظِيۡمٌ
What evidence is there that the Quran was from God and that it was given to Mohammad by God?
😂😂😂 scam scam water
In spite of all propaganda against Zam Zam Water and Well, it shine more and more. It is a blessing of God for true believers. Cool for believers. In their great Envy, enemies of God always burning in fire for Fame and Respect of Zam Zam Well. Thank you God for Blessing us with Zam Zam Well.
For perspective, according to the USGS the individual American uses 1/2 a cubic meter of water per day, an exorbitant amount to be sure but there it is. Knock 3 zeros off the 50 million liters quoted in the video and that gives 50 thousand cubic meters, or enough water to satisfy 100,000 average Americans.
@@MollyPitcher1778 My "point" is in the first line: perspective. Besides going after a total stranger for no good reason, what's yours?
What's your point? Surely pilgrims don't do all the activities of American households and that water supply doesn't feed industrial & farming needs.
@@MollyPitcher1778 you know it’s in a desert, right?
Have you ever been to a desert?
I was born in 1951 two years earlier than you Jay. So respect your elders? Keep the videos coming in Jesus. Love from Ireland
you dont respect people who lie to the public
You're same with my dad, 1948
This is so incredibly funny. There is so little Zam Zam water that it is fed by desalinated water from the ocean. Taking it & transporting it home is fooling so many ignorant people.
it's amazing how you people believe in Jay's cute little story
YES - modern technology, water pumps with pipes extract more Zam-Zam water to cater for all the millions in Mecca and bottling for export as the level of the Zam-Zam water does not decrease.
th-cam.com/video/Y4k-bdizKgg/w-d-xo.html
New ZamZam well opening found in 2018 giving MORE ZAMZAM WATER
PROOF
th-cam.com/video/QXeweXpnK_4/w-d-xo.html
@@talltalltrees22 Again, nothing but useless words. Tell us WHY Jay's words are wrong. Stop with mindless comments that mean nothing. Give us facts to refute what he is saying. The real world deals in facts so we can make logical decisions. The delusional world of islam presents no facts but just insults.
@@aaabrams1889 The "modern technology" does not extract more Zam-Zam water from the well, it BRINGS IN more water to the well from the desalination plants. The added water is obviously not native water to the well. Don't expect anyone to believe the fairy tale you just presented.
@@sheikhboyardee556 seeing that you believe Jay smith without verifying his story tells me that you don’t care about facts. He, like all christians, pull verses to support the lies in trinity.. and that’s what he did with this Zam Zam story. He pulled info from here and there and stitch them together to fool you people. That’s why I say it’s amazing how easily these kufar believe the lies of islamophobes
The people in Makkah have lived for thousands of years without the desalination plants. And pilgrims to Makkah have been drinking zamzam water and bringing home bottles of zamzam even before they set up these machines to desalinate water from the sea. So why would Jay think the zamzam is from these plants? I started drinking zamzam since 1989 way before Saudi authority started giving out 10 litres of zamzam to each Haj pilgrim. I’ve tasted zamzam. It’s delicious! Has Jay tasted it before? Then how can he be so certain present day zamzam is water from desalination plants? If he goes to Makkah today and say zamzam is from sea water, people will laugh at him and will point to him the taps to drink zamzam and taps to drink water processed from sea.
Jay should repent and ask forgiveness from Allah. His hair is white and his time is near. He should stop talking lies about Islam and focus on returning to Allah.
How pathetic does one have to be to believe all the lies. 😂
@@ddman5025 ikr, as an ex-muslim i feel ashamed and disgusted these beliefs(people) almost took my life
Delusion is a wonderful thing.
Taqqiyyaaaa
@@toolittletoolate1900 i dont lie like Jay Smith. I'm a Muslim.
Allah revealed this to:
"1000% support to all Ex Muslims, from 7 billion of us (includes many Muslims)...Lovers of Truth."
Dr Jay. I am a very experienced Hydrogeologist with 50 years in the industry and have worked in over 50 countries, including Saudi Arabia. I have a PhD Degree in Hydrogeology. Please refer to the Saudi University chemical analyses for Zam Zam. It is barely potable. Historical records show the water table in the well is around 4 to 6m beneath the surface (after heavy rainfall recharge). The water table in the unconfined sand aquifer would then gradually decline as the groundwater drains downstream from the points of recharge. Under these circumstances it is not physically possible for a child to scratch the surface and groundwater springs forth uncontrolled at the surface. This is hydro geologically impossible. There is no way anyone would shout 'stop stop' as nothing would be flowing. The story of Zam Zam is a scam, a myth to justify a Deen, based on false pretenses. Can I please ask that you interview an experienced Hydrogeologist to present the actual hydrogeological reality at Zam Zam.
Len, can you e-mail me
This is fantastic!
Let’s really get such experts on board!!!
You are the candidate. Oth, I m appalled that the holy water for healing or wudu is sellable. Water from nature / springs should be free. 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️ 🙏🕊️
@@CHSCRTE - selling water isn’t new and common everywhere on every culture and economy.
It’s the tagging of the idea that the water is ‘holey’ that’s both stupid and hilarious.
Here is physical proof that the well of Zamzam is 20 meters from the Kaaba as another point was opened when they did the renovations there.
New ZamZam well opening found in 2018 giving MORE ZAMZAM WATER
PROOF
th-cam.com/video/QXeweXpnK_4/w-d-xo.html
I have been following Pfander for a while. Can you provide your recordings on dvds for sale? You know social media is not always dependable.
In my country Everyone can sold out anything as long as its words, sign and mark in arabic
The water needs of the city of Mecca are also the needs of the city of Jeddah which supplies Mecca with goods. However large the population of Jeddah is, add that to the number of people’s needs of both cities. As Muslims with 4 wives each and many children, their population is exploding unless they are sending their excess youths all over the world!
Ratio of men to women world wide is 1:1. Those young men need to find 4 wives somewhere so they will come to our countries to find them. Young 'western' men need to wise up, and fast.
God bless America, Spain and Britain.
wonder how much they charged Saudi
ZamZam well is not from allah but from a hosts of American, Canadian and Spanish desalination plants. These desalination plants helps to also irrigate vast areas of vegetation in SA. Nothing miraculous about this.
True dat
In other words Muslims should be worshipping Americans, Canadians and Spaniards. These should be their trinity.
Jay Smith confuse water from well (zam zam) with water for everyday use (from desalination plant). One is pure drinking water (zam zam), the other is salt water which is now so refined compared to years ago when our hair became hard and sticky. Yet this water does not taste like zam zam. Zam Zam has a unique taste. If you havent tried it, pls do! Inside and outside Masjidil Haram are free supplies of both types of water. You can choose to drink Zam Zam or the normal drinking water.
Both Jay Smith and Al Fadi are presenting irrefutable truth and reality on the ground pertaining to ZamZam well and water. Of course somebody want to distort this well founded truth and reality. These people are conditioned to deceive everybody to serve the purpose of the devil and the devil they must wait and follow on the day of judgement. If the devil aka the deceiver cant save them, they'll be condemned for eternity. If they think they're correct, why dont they produce their own video to debunk Jay Smith and Al Fadi findings. Even the stones or pebbles pelted at the pillars or jamarat are collected by lorries waiting underneath those pillars. What else is not true about the findings of Jay Smith and Al Fadi?
@@reynoldthemagnificientthun463 why don’t you verify their story? Let’s start from the top. First look for evidence that water from desalination plant is pumped into the well.
Water from desalination plant is supplied to homes, schools, hotels, hospitals, restaurants etc. That much is true. This has been the case for decades! But Jay went further to assume this water is also sent to the Zam Zam well. THIS is untrue. The 2 large pipes in the well pumped water out of the well, not into.
If you care for the truth, verify this part.
LOL ... what a scam
What are the sources to his claims in this video by the way
Muna Project Bulk Reservoir Roof Project
Client : Ministry of Public Works and Housing, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
Start Date : 1981
Finish Date : August 1986
Key features of Work Scope:
The project was the construction of 340 meter diameter stayed reinforced concrete Shell roof to cover approximately 1.000.000 m3 circular bulk water storage reservoir near Al-Maarsine-Makkah. The Project mainly consisted of the construction of 60 m high 88 concrete towers by slipforming technology and 110+60 meter radial concrete beams supported by prestressing cables from these towers, and the installation of precast concrete Shell roof panels 6.5 cm thick.
May Allah's curse be on those who lie about the religion and miracles of Allah, and when the Angel of Death is upon you and the barrier is removed you shall know you were of the Wrongdoers.
You are not even allowed into the holy city of Mecca, and you are speaking on things that predate America, and Predate the time of Jesus (PBUH). So why a Christian would have a comment concerning a miracle given to a wife of Ibrahim (PBUH) is beyond me. You cannot see any of the miracles of Jesus (PBUH) which we believe in of course, but all can see the Water of the well of Zam Zam still flowing.
So all you do is attempt to mislead more people to what.... the fire? Why should people listen to you? Maybe you should spend your time convincing people to abandon Pagan traditions and Witchcraft. You only confuse a few Muslims, and mislead and lie to non muslims. People dip their fingers in "holy water" from the Catholics, which is "blessed" from a priest... and people go for this... When Jesus (PBUH) walked the earth he was a Prophet who could bless water, as he was sent by Allah as a blessing to the people who he was sent to (Jewish people BTW, who rejected his message).. Now all of a sudden Catholics, who DID NOT exist in the time of Jesus ( PBUH) can suddenly bless water. When did Jesus(PBUH) leave this ability for his followers? This is PURE INNOVATION... Think on this for a second..... If you indeed are a person of Logic.
Repent and Learn the true message of Islam, before you are in your grave.. Repent for the lies you tell against Islam.
Allah says (interpretation of the meaning)
Miserable is the price for which they have sold their souls, in that they deny (the revelation) which Allah has sent down, in insolent envy that Allah of His Grace should send it to any of His servants He pleases: Thus have they drawn on themselves Wrath upon Wrath. And humiliating is the punishment of those who reject Faith. Quran 2:90
They seek to deceive Allah and the believers, yet they only deceive themselves, but they fail to perceive it. There is sickness in their hearts, and Allah ˹only˺ lets their sickness increase. They will suffer a painful punishment for their lies. Quran 2:9-10
Fair enough. Can you tell me where the sun goes at night?
@@es-rh8oo it goes to the other side of the Earth. Where it becomes light on the other side. Are you some kind of flat earther
10:03 who said Abraham lived in mecca before hegar move in?!
Story of Zam zam just a tale that must accept as a reality for the brainwashed human.
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Without lies, slams dies.
#HolesInSIN
Chappelle has an endless supply of comedy straight from his religious narrative.
😂😂😂😂
Since when USA existed when Abraham's wife and Abraham himself was 😂😂😂 Makes no sense
Is there anything that isn't a scam in this religion?
So, all it takes is for the water storage tanks in Jeddah to ‘spring a leak’, enough to cause water loss in Mecca and Medina for at least a year!
Here is my ZamZam story: I had an uncle bring ZamZam water from Hajj. He told me how holy & miraculous the water is etc. I asked him if could have some. He said No. 😂 He kept it all for himself.
why doesnt he like you?
@@arafah97 Idk maybe he thought I was undeserving or maybe he was just stingy, wants to keep all the blessings for himself.
You sure it is not Vodka ??
W
there is city “s waste water also in zam zam ?
Zam zam water is from allah
Mecca -- a site of such archaeological importance, they bulldozed into the bedrock and built hotels all over it.
I used to share your view until I went on haj. The need to accommodate millions of people converging on the Kaabah and their need for modern accommodation meant that multi storied modern buildings had to replace older low-rise buildings. The massive need for current standard accommodation is such that most pilgrims stay in accommodation 3 kilometres from the Kaabah. The roads always jammed 13:34 13:34 thus many pilgwalked tioo
Mecca is less archeological site, its new town build after Islam. Before Islam there are no mention about Mecca, and this city isn't on ancient trade route. Romans, Sassanids, Egypt, or any civilazation mention about Mecca.
They pump in millions of litres from desalination plants, then they add a cup of water from the original Zam Zam well to millions of litres of water, hey presto now all the pumped-in water is now Zam Zam water. Muslim logic at its best.
Had no idea Chappelle was Muslim. That's a shocker!
I thought he was sharper than that too.
Jay said that he was a muslim and a clever man...the two things just don't add up!
Sister Linzi, please bring this hilarious zam zam story to Indonesia. Tentu dalam bahasa.
Sudah dibahas Tanpa Ragi
I am not a hydrologist or geologist but what I understand is that a natural spring has an underground source like a river or aquifer under pressure that forces water to the surface where it 'springs' out. You find these all over the world. A well is man made. A well or borehole is dug into the earth and either can tap into an underground river source or simply creates a collection point for draining ground water after rains.
Basically surface rain water drains into the sands and starts flowing along a natural gradient downwards.
Is this 'spring / well' of Zam Zam actually in such a natural gradient.
Jay said the legends name a supply valley but that valley goes another way so it could not be the natural slope for Zam Zam.
So is it a well dug by man or did a supernatural spring occur in the desert to satisfy Hagar and Ishmael?
Has anyone thought that Hagar was of Egyptian origin and so why would she flee away from her known homeland instead of towards it ?
How did she survive so long from the known landmarks of Abraham [ outside Jerusalem] to get all the way down to this barren waterless place ?
If Abraham was living IN the Kaaba, what was he doing with all the idols while worshipping only 1 God ?
Logic, geology, geography, history, human behaviour, science, common sense and simple problem solving seem to have eluded wise men in favour of a fable - a fable with enormous power as it kills it's opponents. Talk about censoring free speech !
EDUCATE YOURSELF
as believing LIARS AND DECEIVERS make you a fool
JAY is supposed to know Islam as he claimed that he studied Islam but LIE to gullible idiots like you into believing that Abraham lived in the Kaaba or next to the Kaaba😅🤣😂
Abraham lived in Ur and his father was a Idol maker and he broke those idols there in Ur ...but the idiot Jay mixes up the story deliberately to deceive you xtians.
After Abraham broke those Idols, according to Islam, he was asked who broke the idols and he pointed to the BIG IDOL that he left and pointed to it...
The Pagans were furious and said that the BIG IDOL is only a idol and can't do it, proving Abraham's point that the Idols can't do anything and should not be worshiped.
The Pagan in Ur took Abraham to be roasted but a miracle happened and the fire did not burn Abraham. (that is the story from the Muslims)
Abraham was still Abram and searched for God in many ways and traveled from Ur along the fertile crescent to Jerusalem.
ABRAHAM TRAVELED TO MECCA
If Abraham traveled SO FAR from Ur in Irak/Iran to Jerusalem, to Egypt and spoke to Pharaoh (not in Cairo...ha ha ha ) whose Palaces and Temples were situated almost as far as Mecca (on the opposite side of the Red Sea in Egypt) AND making it back to Jerusalem, then making it to Mecca would be no problem to Abraham as he was guided by God and secondly, there were well established caravan routes with small towns and oasis's along the way.
Mecca is there and was Established by Hagar and Ismail when Abraham left them there.
There are also well documented studies from Jewish scholars to back this up.
The Ref to Habakkuk is to tell you about the children of Ismael,
Tema not Abraham, inhabited the area around Mecca and Medina.
If you think that Mecca was NOT established in Paran and they built built the Kaaba, then your bible scholars would not say that Jews and Heathens worshiped at the Kaaba BEFORE Mohammad (saw).
The References from your Bible Study from your Xtian scholars, not Muslim makes it clear that Mecca and Medina was well known before Mohammad (saw) by Jews and Arab Pagans - both worshiped at the Kaaba.
EXAMPLES
Psalms 59:1 (at the time of David)
Michtam
The seven poems of the celebrated Arabian poets who flourished before the time of Mohammed, called {Mollakat,} from being suspended on the walls of the temple of Mecca, were also called {Modhabat,} "golden," because they were written in letters of gold on the papyrus; and probably this is another reason why the six poems of David were called golden.
REF www.biblestudytools.com/concordances/treasury-of-scripture-knowledge/psalms-59-1.html
Psalm 44:20
Stretched out our hands to a strange god. The stretching out the hand towards an object of devotion, or an holy place, was an ancient usage among the Jews and heathens BOTH, and it continues in the East at this time, which continuance I do not remember to have seen remarked. That this attitude in prayer has continued among the Eastern people, appears by the following passage from Pitts, in his account of the religion and manners of the Mohammedans. Speaking of the Algerians throwing wax candles and pots of oil overboard, as a present to some marabbot (or Mohammedan saint), Pitt goes on, and says, "When this is done, they all together hold up their hands, begging the marabbot's blessing, and a prosperous voyage." In the same page he tells us, "the marabbots have generally a little neat room built over their graves, resembling in figure their mosques or churches, which is very nicely cleaned, and well looked after." And in the succeeding page he tells us, "Many people there are who will scarce pass by any of them without lifting up their hand, and saying some short prayer." In like manner, he tells us, that at quitting the Beat, or HOLY HOUSE AT MECCA, to which they make DEVOUT PILGRIMAGES, "they hold up their hands towards the Beat, making earnest petitions."
REF www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/treasury-of-david/psalms-44-20.html
Genesis 10:30 (at the time of Abraham)
And their dwelling was from Mesha, as thou goest unto Zephar, a mount of the east.Mesha is Mecca and Zephar is Medina.
REF www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/gills-exposition-of-the-bible/genesis-10-30.html
TEMA - an oasis which lies about 200 miles North of el-Medina, and some 40 miles South of Dumat el-Jandal (Dumah), now known as el-Jauf. It is on the ancient caravan road
REF www.biblestudytools.com/encyclopedias/isbe/tema.html
Rechab
The invasion of Judah by Nebuchadnezzar, in B.C. 607, drove the Rechabites from their tents to Jerusalem, where they stood proof against temptation, and were specially blessed. ( Jeremiah 35:2-19 ) There is much of interest in relation to the present condition of these people. Dr. Wolf reports that the Jews of Jerusalem and Yemen told him that he would find the Rechabites of Jere 35 living near Mecca, in the mountainous country northeast of Medina. When he came near Senaa he came in contact with a tribe, the Beni-Khabir , who identified themselves with the sons of Jehonadab
REF www.biblestudytools.com/dictionaries/smiths-bible-dictionary/rechab.html
OH YES, MOSES ALSO DID THE PILGRIMAGE TO MECCA
when he fled Egypt and married a Medionite and became the son in-law of Jethro, (Shoab) who was the High priest of the Kaaba. Moses spoke to God on Mount Sinai which is in Arabia not the Sinai peninsular - he also led the exodus via Mecca and settled in the wilderness.
th-cam.com/video/Ym7sJJIk-FY/w-d-xo.html
@@aaabrams1889 what a load of nonsense
@@daduzadude1547
So you do not believe your bible scholars but a LIAR LIKE JAY😅🤣😂
No one should believe Jay Smith who constantly lies about Islam. Abraham did not live in the kaabah nor in Makkah. He left Hagar and baby ismael in the desert of Makkah. This is the timeline as per Islamic source:
Abraham walked Hagar and baby Ismael to the desert in Arabia. Exact location, we dont know. Abraham walked away, leaving mother and infant in the desert.
Ismael cried and Hagar placed him down in search of water. She walked between the hills of Safa and Marwa looking for signs of life where she could get water.
An Angel came to strike the ground and out spurt water, which is known as zam zam today.
Mother and child were supported by this lifeline. Soon arabs got to know about this place and it flourished. Hagar shared the water with them but made clear she's the owner of zam zam.
Years later Abraham came and together with Ismael, rebuilt the kaabah. We believe Adam was the first to build the kaabah but due to passing of time, it eroded.
The arabs learnt about Allah and the rituals around Kaabah from Abraham and Ismael. But their religion became contaminated with idolatry.
The guardianship of Kaabah and Zam Zam well continued to be in the hands of Ismael's descendants till the days of Prophet Muhammad pbuh. It was his tribe, Banu Hashim that was the custodian of the Kaabah and zam zam well.
Prophet Muhammad pbuh returned mankind to the true teachings of Abraham and demolished all idols around Kaabah and kept the circling ritual once taught by Abraham. All other haj rituals are to commemorate this family's journey in their worship of Allah.
You are both so deluded.
There is zero record of Abraham going to a fictional city called Mecca
Thank God for zam zam water.
Congratulation on finding those references. I was in a written debate with a sheikh a few years ago and debated the existence of Mecca and showed him via copy/paste where a French company had renovated some pipes from the mountains and from Jeddah. He was flabbergasted. Two weeks later I went to save these for future reference and the pages were gone, wiped and I had kept no links.
EDUCATE YOURSELF
as believing LIARS AND DECEIVERS make you a fool...
JAY is supposed to know Islam as he claimed that he studied Islam but LIE to gullible idiots like you into believing that Abraham lived in the Kaaba or next to the Kaaba😅🤣😂
Abraham lived in Ur and his father was a Idol maker and he broke those idols there in Ur ...but the idiot Jay mixes up the story deliberately to deceive you xtians.
After Abraham broke those Idols, according to Islam, he was asked who broke the idols and he pointed to the BIG IDOL that he left and pointed to it...
The Pagans were furious and said that the BIG IDOL is only a idol and can't do it, proving Abraham's point that the Idols can't do anything and should not be worshiped.
The Pagan in Ur took Abraham to be roasted but a miracle happened and the fire did not burn Abraham. (that is the story from the Muslims)
Abraham was still Abram and searched for God in many ways and traveled from Ur along the fertile crescent to Jerusalem.
ABRAHAM TRAVELED TO MECCA
If Abraham traveled SO FAR from Ur in Irak/Iran to Jerusalem, to Egypt and spoke to Pharaoh (not in Cairo...ha ha ha ) whose Palaces and Temples were situated almost as far as Mecca (on the opposite side of the Red Sea in Egypt) AND making it back to Jerusalem, then making it to Mecca would be no problem to Abraham as he was guided by God and secondly, there were well established caravan routes with small towns and oasis's along the way.
Mecca is there and was Established by Hagar and Ismail when Abraham left them there.
There are also well documented studies from Jewish scholars to back this up.
The Ref to Habakkuk is to tell you about the children of Ismael,
Tema not Abraham, inhabited the area around Mecca and Medina.
If you think that Mecca was NOT established in Paran and they built built the Kaaba, then your bible scholars would not say that Jews and Heathens worshiped at the Kaaba BEFORE Mohammad (saw).
The References from your Bible Study from your Xtian scholars, not Muslim makes it clear that Mecca and Medina was well known before Mohammad (saw) by Jews and Arab Pagans - both worshiped at the Kaaba.
EXAMPLES
Psalms 59:1 (at the time of David)
Michtam
The seven poems of the celebrated Arabian poets who flourished before the time of Mohammed, called {Mollakat,} from being suspended on the walls of the temple of Mecca, were also called {Modhabat,} "golden," because they were written in letters of gold on the papyrus; and probably this is another reason why the six poems of David were called golden.
REF www.biblestudytools.com/concordances/treasury-of-scripture-knowledge/psalms-59-1.html
Psalm 44:20
Stretched out our hands to a strange god. The stretching out the hand towards an object of devotion, or an holy place, was an ancient usage among the Jews and heathens BOTH, and it continues in the East at this time, which continuance I do not remember to have seen remarked. That this attitude in prayer has continued among the Eastern people, appears by the following passage from Pitts, in his account of the religion and manners of the Mohammedans. Speaking of the Algerians throwing wax candles and pots of oil overboard, as a present to some marabbot (or Mohammedan saint), Pitt goes on, and says, "When this is done, they all together hold up their hands, begging the marabbot's blessing, and a prosperous voyage." In the same page he tells us, "the marabbots have generally a little neat room built over their graves, resembling in figure their mosques or churches, which is very nicely cleaned, and well looked after." And in the succeeding page he tells us, "Many people there are who will scarce pass by any of them without lifting up their hand, and saying some short prayer." In like manner, he tells us, that at quitting the Beat, or HOLY HOUSE AT MECCA, to which they make DEVOUT PILGRIMAGES, "they hold up their hands towards the Beat, making earnest petitions."
REF www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/treasury-of-david/psalms-44-20.html
Genesis 10:30 (at the time of Abraham)
And their dwelling was from Mesha, as thou goest unto Zephar, a mount of the east.Mesha is Mecca and Zephar is Medina.
REF www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/gills-exposition-of-the-bible/genesis-10-30.html
TEMA - an oasis which lies about 200 miles North of el-Medina, and some 40 miles South of Dumat el-Jandal (Dumah), now known as el-Jauf. It is on the ancient caravan road
REF www.biblestudytools.com/encyclopedias/isbe/tema.html
Rechab
The invasion of Judah by Nebuchadnezzar, in B.C. 607, drove the Rechabites from their tents to Jerusalem, where they stood proof against temptation, and were specially blessed. ( Jeremiah 35:2-19 ) There is much of interest in relation to the present condition of these people. Dr. Wolf reports that the Jews of Jerusalem and Yemen told him that he would find the Rechabites of Jere 35 living near Mecca, in the mountainous country northeast of Medina. When he came near Senaa he came in contact with a tribe, the Beni-Khabir , who identified themselves with the sons of Jehonadab
REF www.biblestudytools.com/dictionaries/smiths-bible-dictionary/rechab.html
OH YES, MOSES ALSO DID THE PILGRIMAGE TO MECCA
when he fled Egypt and married a Medionite and became the son in-law of Jethro, (Shoab) who was the High priest of the Kaaba. Moses spoke to God on Mount Sinai which is in Arabia not the Sinai peninsular - he also led the exodus via Mecca and settled in the wilderness.
th-cam.com/video/Ym7sJJIk-FY/w-d-xo.html
The only way water can become holy is to be blessed in the Name of the Father and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Therefore this is Scam Scam Water
YOU WERE SCAMMED BY JAY😅🤣😂
@@aabraham3989 m00 ham head is dead, Izlame is false. Everytime I take a wiz, I wiz in the direction of m00 ham heads GRAVE where his dead carcass has been knawed away by maggots. ALL🐖HAM🐖TO👹LAH👹 & stop smoking 🌱TahWEED‼🌱 ❌❌Ur Finished,❗BOY❗❌❌Ur Finished, ❌❌Ur Finishedd, ❌❌Ur Finishedd, ❌❌Wahlahee your Finished❌❌🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
A Abraham, if you're right - you should pay to buy this water, lots of it. Tell your friends!
@@BIBLE-UNBUTCHERED
Your bibles are all butchered
Every Soul will taste death.
the event of zamzam happened before the the construction of Kaaba and Ibrahim did not live in mecca, when Ismail grew we believe that god commanded him to construct the Kabbah with Ismail
This is amazing. May God bless you.
he's amazing at lying
@@talltalltrees22 I agree with u
What is the truth? You don't say.
@@hdl135605 i said it in my own post. If you had scrolled down you would have seen it.
Yes! My friend George bought a bottle in California as a gift for a friend. 💦 very expensive, by the way.
One thought: if the zam zam well only came to be in the time of hagar, then what water were they relying on in mecca before then,!?
It didn’t exist
My point is there would not have been any water, no water, no civilization....
@@daduzadude1547 Ha! Good friend! Found that name God shares with his people yet? 😂😜 👣👣👣
@@AncientHebrewNeverDied yes YHWH
@@daduzadude1547 Break it down, Sir. I want you to tell me why *'a Jew is YHWH' and why **'YHWH is Jew', given that the standard narrative is that YHWH means 'I am that I am' and that a Jew is someone from Judea. ***Show me the connection between the terms 'Jew' and 'YHWH'. 🙂
One fool strengthening the foolishness of the fools!
So proud of you Dr Jay Smith. This is not the only video that has opened my mind. Really admire your research
Me too. He had answered a question ive had for awhile. Plus, no bird call.
It's a shame that you have decided to delete my comment, instead of allowing a discussion to take place. It shows that you are more interested in portraying your own narrative rather then allowing people to make up thier own minds.
So Odin supplies water to Zam Zam.
you're scammed by Jay
Didn't watch all of it however I saw a big mistake, which is Abraham lived in Mecca, which no Muslim claimed !! Infact the evidence suggests he didn't and only visited there a very few times !!! No one lived in Mecca back then !!
Absolutely ridiculous. Dave is usually more calculating to make such bold statements. Clearly he is in err in not knowing history or the Scriptures.
He's just repeating what his imam told him.
@@Draezeth It's how it is with too many. First thing one often hears is, "I'm not a scholar" and they have to check with their Imam, who of course will lie to them. It gives an idea of what Martin Luther was trying to end when the established empiracal Church fed their parishioners stories and lies & had no access to the scriptures themselves to learn for themselves. It's so sad that so many people who would make great Christians are caught in a cesspool of lies & deceit.
So Soudi government, American and Canadian…construction companies playing with so many people knowing the truth. Very sad
you shouldnt believe a liar like Jay Smith. He lies so much about Islam
So if the Zam Zam well was to ever dry up does that create a crisis of faith for Islam?
Good point, but because they're so brainwashed it wont matter to them, if you recall yasir quadi in his infamous interview with muhamad No'hijab when he said that "the islamic narrative of the foundations of islam have holes in them" muslims weren't phased by all the lies they've been told their whole lives, their brains go into automatic shutdown when they hear the truth. unbelievable...
We won't find out, if it ever went dry.
there will be zam zam water as long as there is hajj hajj money
How could Abraham and Hagar suddenly live together in Mecca next to the Kaaba and Zam-Zam if Abraham drove her away from him.
Zubaida's qanat sounds funny 😂😂🤣🤣
His qanats dried up!🤣
GINAWA ANG TAO HUBO AT HUBAD ITO WALA ITONG DALA SA MUNDO KAYA LILISAN O YAYAON DALA ANG GINAWA MO MABUTI MAN O MASAMA ITO. 2CORINTO 5:10. HEBREO 4:12. PAHAYAG O APOCALIPSIS 20:6.
"Yeah, but 21 metres in the past was really 21 miles. You need to divide by 1900BC." - Alfonso or some other arselifter.
the Scam Scam well
LOL!
Now that's got to go viral
YOU WERE SCAMMED BY JAY😅🤣😂
Dear Jay, there is a comment by David Bond. He refers to the official Saudi Arabian TH-cam Vid to the Zamzam well th-cam.com/video/ZL3MJb_djUU/w-d-xo.html on 4:53 to 4:56 there is told the well will spent water between 11l/s and 18,5l/s that's about 1,6 million Liter per day at maximum (18,5x60sx60mx24hours). But on minute 11:29 they say 1,5 million 10l Bottles are filled up per day!! Ten times more than the well can give according to there own Data.
try telling that to your your local take out guy :) ..do they give it free ? sounds like it should be
This guy doesn't go to school. He definitely needs to.
Only Islam can united people around the world into one Ummah.Christians go many different directions 😂😂😂
And Islam has many sects who are constantly in disagreement with each other to the point of death...
@@Jay-de7pnbut no matter of which sect when they they go to hajj they go to same destination ❤
It's nothing to do with Allah, but all to do with the $Dallah.
The Saudis probable make more money from this scam water than they do from oil!
Brilliant work!
Thank you so much for this information.
YOU WERE SCAMMED BY JAY😅🤣😂
Jay Smith confuse water from well (zam zam) with water for everyday use (from desalination plant). One is pure drinking water (zam zam), the other is salt water which is now so refined compared to years ago when our hair became hard and sticky. Yet this water does not taste like zam zam. Zam Zam has a unique taste. If you havent tried it, pls do! Inside and outside Masjidil Haram are free supplies of both types of water. You can choose to drink Zam Zam or the normal drinking water.
Allah's minions are usurping his title of "the best of deceivers"...
The Saudi Arabian government sells sea water to it's people 😂
Very simple answer to the question you pose in between. There WAS no Kaaba there when Hagar was left there first. There was nothing. It was built by Ibrahim and his son years later as commanded by God.
Ibrahim prophet did not live there. He visited several times and made the call for Hajj, but didn’t live there.
And the angel of the Lord found her by a fountain of water in the wilderness, by the fountain in the way to Shur."
The fact that I cannot accept and stand is the narrative that presence of Abraham in Mecca.
If this is a lie, then all the rest is a lie.
The only difference in our tap water and zam zam water is, our water is not from the salty ocean and had the salt removed to make it drinkable.
🤣🤣🤣🤣❤️
This video should be put as an advert everywhere
If you need actual information about Zam Zam water, read it on following link: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamzam_Well
@@ameenzakariya Brother, even I can edit Wikipedia. The real truth is in God. Maybe it's time you ask him what his truth is
@@Cab517yet you're listening to a video of an islamophobic channel?suuure.
It is now reveal, the actual of zam-zam well water
Wow, if that really was the well of Hagar, isn't it a bit irreverent to put this huge industrial machinery all over it? And then sell it all over the world? Something is off here, regardless of the truth to the claims.
When Islamophobes think they know more than scholars that dedicated their whole life to Islam. Hilarious to read the comments in here. Endless clownery. Endless entertainment.
I tried Zam Zam water once, before I knew what it was and remember it didn't taste nice.
Nah your taste buds are fried lol
@@NowLedgeOutpost sure and the fact that it contains high levels of arsenic has nothing to do with it? Maybe yours are fried from drinking it too much
Bro, as a Muslim i know the ZAM ZAM which is not drown by pilgrims themselves but sold in market even i mecha is a biggest scam Muslims are doing to Muslims..
Great analysis, many valid questions and inconsistencies to the story we are told
Let me correct
*Ibrahim was leaving in Jerusalem not in Makkah
*bibi hajra wasn’t thrown out of Makkah.
* after Makkah had water people begin to come and live there.
It's come from heaven Jay. It's a miracle. Don't you get it?
Miracle? Haha everything has been found to be some stretched out wiiiddee sided lies with some truth
It seems somewhat like the Quran, 95% copy pasted and altered for a polemic, and 5% original material.
@mysotiras0187 how much of the Quran have you read?
@mysotiras0187 then you’re lying
@@talltalltrees22 how many quran do you have?? 🤣
They have to keep saying it Jaty so WE can know the truth. People often play dumb and stupid when you start a conversation about these things but once the miracle story tellers have said it one can be excused for checking it out for the truth.
Great video!
Of course you would say that. So sad how much Lebanese Christians hate Islam.