FINALLY! - a Professional Laptop that actually puts out
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- Lenovo over here putting the 'Pro' back in 'Professional'. To learn more about the Yoga Pro 9i click: www.lenovo.com/yoga And huge thanks to Lenovo for sponsoring this video and sending over the laptop. With a dedicated Nvidia 4070 GPU and a blistering Intel Core i9 processor, this laptop is basically good at everything from homework to eating chicken dinners. Look I don't know what the kids are doing on laptops these days - I just know its a really really powerful machine. #LenovoYoga #YogaPro9i
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Always nice to see companies sponsoring or sending in their products to Zack, which means they have confidence in their product's durability 🛠️
But he didn't test this laptop thou
He did not stress the laptop at all.
And even if he does and they snap. Cheap advertising, people still buy ipads just fine despite them usually breaking
all he did was promote it no test was really done like he dose with stuff like the iPad no bend test no scratch test nothing this is a add
When bend test? haha
Just a heads up, the 4070 which this laptop actually has is WILDLY different to a 470
Dude this annoyed me so bad lmao
ocd kickin
I thought it was like a custom GPU or sth 😂
@@Crystalcluster you got clinically diagnosed OCD?
What matters is the wattage and the cooling of the GPU. I doubt this 4070 can even match a properly cooled 3050 before throttling out
@Chief Master will definitely match a 3050 lol probably about the same as a 4060.
The gpu is fairly efficient with rtx4000, new gaming laptops are mostly suffering from intel 13gen
You can tell when Jerry endorses a product he's actually going to use because the teardown becomes a gentle peak. 😅
Ya, no lighter on the screen on this teardown
It seems Jerry has not in fact rigged everything🙄
@@roylee8114you mean he hasn’t Jerry rigged everything
@@DeadMemeProductions for a meme channel u sure know how to ruin a joke(albeit a bad joke) but...ha ha? 🤦
Edge being edged out smoothly to the recycle bin was definitely the highlight for me 😂
Thissssss comment should be pinned lmaoooo🤣
Right where it belongs 😂😂😂
I was expecting the new 16" framework laptop, but this definitely didn't disappoint.
Really? Compared to the idea of Framework, this laptop is very disappointing. Memory can't be removed, nor upgraded. Big oof in my book.
But then again, I'm still waiting on removable processors and videocards making a proper comeback.
I miss the time of fully repairable/upgradeable laptops, like my old HP Elitebook 8540w. That one has a PGA988 socket for the Intel CPU and a Mobile PCI Express (MXM 3.0) slot for graphics cards. I could, in theory, upgrade it to an Nvidia RTX 2080, as that's the latest card made for this interface, but that would be massively bottlenecked by my CPU, lol.
@@FuckedUpGenius I'm all for open hardware (and open/free software since we're at it) cause I hate proprietary BS **cough** Apple **cough**
I was just saying that this laptop is a power-machine and very technologically impressive, as is every new-gen laptop every year....
I would also love for him to tear down a Framework laptop when the newer ones come out.
@@FuckedUpGenius removeable mobile processors are not coming back.
I expected a ThinkPad, not a Yoga.
1:05 oh my I laughed way to hard at that icon removal! :D
Isn't that the standard procedure with any Microsoft tech?
I own a yoga book. Mine is still going strong from 2013. Getting long in the tooth with a dual core. Best laptop i've ever owned. Not only is it a capable machine but It's also built like a tank. With a background in IT I highly recommend this machine to anybody and everybody. Spend the money it will be worth it in the long run.
I bought a Lenovo touch screen laptop around that same time, it was a total disaster with preinstalled virus and a lid too flexible to open without breaking the glass screen.
same here! my old yoga book was my best friend during my whole 6 years of Engineering studies. It fell so many times, it travel everywhere, was stepped on and having many other adventures, but still is going strong even with some parts missing :)
@@user-fk2gp3fe7fwould you recommend the yoga slim pro for a computer science student in 1st year?
@@crakentertainment585master of science It guy here with a yoga pro 7 14 arp. This shit is a monster. 10-12 hours of battery usage (web browsing + music), 8 Core with 16 threads. I use it for android programming (emulation and stuff) , some gaming and video cut. I got it for 980€ as student price.
Yeah but can he handle After Effects ?
I've been looking for a good laptop for the last couple of years. This one hits everything I wanted and more. Definitely going to look at closer. Thanks for the review!
Those crazy professional laptops without ports are 🤦
He wouldn’t know that because he isn’t a tech guy though.
THIS
ok but what more ports would you need? there is multiple usb's for connecting mouse or thumbdrive, there is sd card slot, there is hdmi. I don't think many people would need more than this
🙄🙄
you need a port to put your butt plug as well ?
i was so relieved when it powered back on after the teardown / reassemble
Good to see you are doing well Jerry. Thank you for reviewing this product
3:55 The small button serves as a power button that allows you to boot into a special boot menu (so you don't have to remember the hotkeys to boot in different manus)
This is horrible
I'd rather remember a hotkey
@@vladdxyou don’t even need to remember it, it tells you on boot up
Been a fan since 2018. Very glad to see you still make perfect videos. Great work.
Jerry really wanted to keep this thing😂 he didn't even scratch it
That's the first time I see a video from you with no metal scream, bending test nor crack sounds in it. What a surprise. Thank you for your work. Nice laptop too.
I love your tear downs always fun to watch thx. Can’t wait for to next one.
3:58 It's called "Novo Button" and when turned off it can show you a menu with options to go to the bios, boot menu and etc (Long term Lenovo User here).
usually to get to the bios is either F1 or F2 and to the boot menu F11 or F12 depending on the model series.
Also the power delivery "dudats" 5:19 are called MOSFETs and VRMs :)
Yeah it's F1 for bios on lenovo, F12 for boot menu or you can mash the enter key to enter into a choices menu that gives you the prior mentioned options among a few others
I assume you had always a good experience with their products?
I ask because my yoga c640 feels more like a cheap piece of trash than anything, I probably should have bought another model
@@mastroitek Honestly outside of the thinkpad line the lenovo laptops are generally pretty trash tier and unfortunately the thinkpads are approaching that tier as well which is a shame as I really liked the thinkpads :(
@@blazingmatty123 the legion series were before but now they're getting better and better
I was number 69 that's all he needs to know
Good vid.
As a tech, Len is one of my favorite to work on these days, 25 yrs now as a tech. They are really stepping up their game these days in build quality.
Cheers
Impressive hardware, good disclosure and I'm glad you have a new battle laptop😊
I use the Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Yoga 3rd edition as my daily driver for three years now. No complaints except that the buttons leave permanent markings on the OLED screen. The laptop still rocks.
IBM ThinkPad twat.
How much battery life do you get from this laptop since this is a power hungry OLED screen and which OS are you using, windows or linux? Also, did you face pwm screen flickering while on low brightness during these 3 years or any dead pixel?
I'm planning to buy thinkpad T16 gen 2 AMD and confused whether to go for IPS or OLED display due to low battery life and pwm flickering.
@@arpit9163 I am 6th gen user, I get about 10~12 hours when I use battery saver and limit performance down to 50% in the CPU max limit power setting. When I don't use those, I got only 5 hours of battery life. My tasks are mostly just browsing the web on windows none oled screen.
Perfect device and I can tell 100% Jerry will be using it. He treated it with such respect lol. No deeper grove at level 7 test on that display 😅
I am sure that zack is very reasonable and relatable guy. I personally got impressed when I get to know that he uses his smart phone for 4 to 5 years straight just like us. When most of the tech people changing their's in months.
Jerry is so smooth with these breakdowns, well done.
Love this slim design and the color! Looks really elegant
lmao 1:03 the first thing to do with every new computer
Edge is actually a great browser though. I like it more than chrome/brave
Jokes aside, edge is actually pretty darn cool
Nah, the new Edge is good
I would love to see more laptop teardowns.
Send him yours
@@gaeborg I have opened it already ;)
Love how he moved Edge shortcut to recycle bin, but great teardown!
where Edge belongs😁
I'm a technician and have been using a Yoga for years. They're great!
Him throwing Microsoft Edge into Recycle Bin really makes my day HAHAHA
wow, so funny😊, I use Edge on a daily basis
what a day when chrome is slower than edge
the ai really made edge better
Funny shit indeed made my day
The price I'm seeing on Amazon is not all that bad for this much power. My only gripe is with the processors and LPDDR4 being board integrated. This means that any RAM failure results in a total board replacement. I'm not seeing any board at this moment but, my experience with repairs tells me the unit would likely be more cost effective to replace as a whole than service. Also, I didn't notice if the WIFI card was removable or not, didn't see it in the teardown. If the WIFI is also board integrated, this can be a similar and larger issue. I've seen dead WIFI kill a 1 year old Alienware M17 before. The machine was a $1700 machine but we couldn't find a replacement board for less than $1100
Got to love that forced obsolescence due to cost.
Also I spotted that fans are not removable from heatsink. They are doing it for at least 2 years. Good lluck cleaning dust bunnies from cooling system.
P.S. Wi-fi is not replaceable. In such huge laptop, smh
Its a trade off really. Ram in particular, intergrated and sodderd right can be a pretty high performance boost. Hell as much as apple's unrepairable bs annoys they they actually use the sodderd nature of thier chips to boost performance evem more
@@nomore-constipation It's LPDDR5X, you can't socket that and retain the speed and lower power usage, its not all about cost saving.
@@donkey1271 Not like they can't socket it, more likely they didn't want a thick laptop with extra thickness.
the soothing voice alone makes watching such an experience, the nuanced jokes, even better. hoping to see more laptop tear downs.
See you around.
Hope to see more laptop durability tests in the future
Your precise way of opening up laptop components and re-assembling them back properly is really awesome.
Just to check, if we open up a laptop to check or upgrade the Ram or SSD, without breaking anything, during warranty, will it void my warranty ?
Delivery on point as always Zach👌🏾. I can see heat issues in the very near future unless they are limiting the power.
Ikr, not really a laptop if your lap will cover the fans intake
Great review..This could be my next machine .
I'm actually impressed by the power and spec. Good job Lenovo
1:03 Jerry: (removes Edge from desktop because he's not a fan of it)
Microsoft: TRIGGERED
You can tell this notebook is making the rounds, a lot of different videos from different creators with a lot of the same talking points. Good to see a proper teardown on it though, definitely makes this video stand out from the bunch!
I have a tech tip for you: on direct die cooling it's a good idea to spread the thermal paste. The heat conductivity of the silicon is so low that any small corner not covered could overheat and die.
Not at all a problem on chips with an IHS, because of the copper.
I must say I was pretty relieved that you refrained from destroying such a beast device this time around.
Hey Jerry, you should build/take apart a framework laptop. You would be pretty happy with the repairability and how easy it is to upgrade parts of it.
Yeah, but they don't pay diaper shill money. 🙃
Jerry, you should review framework laptops they have the first actual modular system for laptops and first that actually want you to repair your own laptop.
Man i was waiting for soo long to see a laptop teardown by jerry..
Nice to see things in there that should be a part of a professional laptop
Did anyone else see the thumbnail title written in Indian but becomes English when opened?
you're here for that?
me too😅
Me too... that was weird
Hell yeah, the exact reason I'm here now.
One Hell of a Laptop
this lappy is impressive
Good job Zack
Good to see you doing teardown on laptops
When we got our first PC around 1997 my dad said the exact same thing about the 6 GB of hard disc space we had back then: It's more than you will ever need in your whole life. Well ... 😅
The Edge to the recucle bin detail never gets old 😅 glad you included it
They are great lenovo yoga laptops I've had 1 for years it's a carbon x1 yoga 16gb ram i7 still works brilliant and battery still lasts aswell
Interesting, thank you for the teardown.
It's hard to explain how magnifical Lenovo's keyboard is mostly to someone who have never used one before.. I've been on the x1 Carbon line up since gen 6 and only lenovo can match that experience.
It's also hard to explain how awesome the original IBM Thinkpad keyboards were before Lenovo took over and gradually made them worse.
@@user-xw9el5bj1w This is so true, and I've been using laptops since the early 90's (desktops before that). I'm typing on my 2022 XPS 15 right now and it's terrible. I built a custom TKL keyboard for my daily work with a split spacebar (left side is backspace) so when I make the switch from that keyboard to my laptop it's just so bad.
Seems like the X1 carbon keyboards are much better than the yoga keyboards, correct?
The new *Framework laptop* wipes the floor with this one...
But framework didn't sponsor this video lol
@@gmayo777 true...
the new framework laptop only has 4 expansion slots, i/o wise the lenovo wins
@@cle4tle The new Framework Laptop 16 has 6. And they are customizable.
heard of framework quite a lot, but how do they stand out from others?
I have a Yoga convertible, which was also pretty well spec'ed for the price, but in use, it's been less wonderful. More than the average blue screens, and random hardware issues. Wifi disconnects on sleep and takes a noticeable amount of time to reconnect.
Is always love when I see a new video and love the little jokes throughout them hahaha
Lenovo indeed makes great products.. However their support is extremely lackluster, at least here in the EU.. We had A lot of hardware issues recently and at times their so called support sends back faulty units as "No faults" found.. Even with documented issues with pictures, videos and logs of the issues..
The customer should not be left suffering because the RMA team is lazy and bad at troubleshooting..
And this is with the "procare" or whatever their extra warranty is called that provide higher urgency and faster respond times.
Keep this in mind when choosing a business laptop.
Wow I'm impressed that they still put a lot of ports in such a slim laptop! Other manufacturers should take a look at this 👀 * Ahem.. Dell.. Ahem.. *
Edge straight in the Recycle Bin. Nice touch.
My wife still has her Lenovo z460. I purchased a Lenovo Slim pro 7 a couple of months ago and have no regret. Anyway, the keyboard has been the same except that my new laptop has backlit which I can never function without. Lenovo has been behind the major brands like Asus, Dell or HP. Lenovo is underrated.
I feel like any device that gets put on that table says, "this is the end of me!"
They'd be crazy to make a professional laptop that's not easily serviceable... oh torx screws... oh no, soldered memory.
This laptop may be good for general use but can't be called "pro", guess that's why they didn't brand it thinkpad
I prefer torx to philips
Bro always gives best of everything
No noise vedio transition
But good and clean vedio
Not sure if you'll see this, but if you're going to use the laptop, open it back up and spread the thermal paste, because it's direct to the die, it needs 100% coverage
Hi Jerry, great video sir.
I did notice a hardware description error at 1:19. You described the GPU as a 470, however it is actually a RTX 4070. Thank you for all the great video and being genuinely good guy.
Mark Nicholson (Retired)
Former, US Army - EFMB,
Combat Medical Specialist
🤓
Hey zack, ive got a tech tip for you
When you apply thermal paste to bare silicon (without a metal heat spreader) it is absolutely essential that you spread the thernal paste on the silicon without leaving any empty spaces.
If i were you i would open up the laptop straight away and reapply the thermal paste.
I've got a tip for you: when working with low mounting pressure heat spreaders like inside a laptop don't use thermal paste. Use Honeywell's PTM7950 phase change pad. It matches liquid metal in performance while being completely electrically non-conductive and staying in place. It's the best TIM available in 2023 for laptops
@@iamdmc i havent tested it personally but in theory and based on tests others done yah i totally agree with you, the only issue is sourcing the real Honeywell pad.
He used a lot of paste, the extra paste will squish to the sides leaving no air gaps.
@@DarkGT you can't be 100% sure that the whole silicon die will be covered. unfortunately I had a mishap with an Athlon 64 x2 laptop processor I thought there was no need to spread the thermal paste if I'm just going to squish it, and it ended with a chipped processor after overheating.
@@zeedan94 It happens to the best of us. Everyone have their preferred way. Just use enough paste or more than what you think is enough.
This video was funny to watch with all the little quips! :)
Great review as always!!! you cracked me up when you threw M$oft Edge to the recycle bin @1:03!!
That's a lot of power for such a slim laptop. I wonder about its thermals and battery.
75wat = 4-5 hour youtube
4:57 and yet they could use Dell's CAMM RAM modules standard, instead of choosing the path of Apple's M1 CPUs with HBM modules combined in not-upgradable unit, I believe they could find a place
Not quite. CAMM isn't out for the open market yet, and there are packaging restrictions due to the space it takes up.
@@donkey1271 you might be right, and I guess people prefer an additional M.2 slot, as the place for future expansion - and we are left with even more CPU-Memory integration.
Loving the watch 😮
love to see my PC laptop stuff dude keep it up
Would actually love to see a durability test on this. Used to own a Lenovo and it only held 2 1/2 years before the frame started to fall apart.
All Lenovo's do that. It's piss poor quality of plastic and hinges. I see them in my repair shop often all with the same kind of issues.
It went serious downhill somewhere around 2014, not sure what happend around that time but it got worse since. Everything above 4th gen intel based lenovo laptops.
durability 0.3mm aluminium + 0.3mm plastic ?
@@OsmosisHD i work daily with lenovo laptops. the only physical failiures ive seen on the T and E series were "user error"
T series Thinkpads do not break down though. You probably had Ideapads.
I have Lenovo Yoga 710 since 2018. It was my student laptop (I am a Master in Robotics now). Being not very careful with things, I can tell it is super durable!!! It cracked in several places because it fell from my height several times... but still does the job. I am honestly shocked. So now I am looking at the same, but newer model.
The thermal "paste" that was originally on there was a variant of PTM7950, which is a phase change material designed to last a lot and fill the imperfectoins in heatsink a lot better than traditional thermal paste. Unfortunately the thermals are now much worse on this laptop, not to mention pumpout and drying out. Still, great video!
he ain't the tech tips guy, so it's understandable.
How much worse it can be? +3-4 degrees? I can live with that. If they wanted the best of the best, they could have used a liquid metal LMAO.
@@DarkGT It's about longevity. I've been using ptm7950 on a ThinkPad T480 for about a year and just repasted bt brand new T14G2 with the same PTM. The temperatures immediately dropped by 8-10 degrees from stock paste, and i know the paste will keep its properties for a long time.
@@DarkGT liquid metal would be either too expensive or too dangerous for a slim laptop like rhat, ptm7950 shines here, as it combines best of both worlds between paste and lm
@@verpejas Maybe you clean the dust, or the old paste have dried? On my MX4 there is label saying 7 years, so even the regular paste should last you long. I'm sure that premium solution have advantages, if you don't have the ptm7950 or whatever, you can still be okay if other brands. It really depends if you are going to push it to the limits with heavy computations that will heat the CPU and GPU.
That copper heatsink cooling solution of Lenovo is beautiful 😍😱👌💯
The fact that you wear an F-91 on your wrist deserves a ton of respect. Great watch, a piece of history.
Why is there no framework laptop teardown?
That removing the edge browser was kinda personal 😂
Really like this laptop 👌🏻 nice efforts Lenovo 👍🏻
I see you rocking the F-91W. 👏👏👏 definitely a God tier classic!
I currently have a touchscreen laptop. It is so glossy that seeing content with any sunshine or strong lighting is a miserable experience. I will be choosing matte surfaced laptop screens from now on. I find I rarely use the touchscreen anyway. Thanks for your video breakdown of this laptop.
By far the most beautiful and minimalistic looking laptop to have ever graced my eyes.
Truly a masterpiece in both art and technology.
Although, will have to put my house as collateral to ever get one. 💀
you've never seen a MacBook?
@@RycoonGalloy I'm not a fan of apple.
@@blurryface5940 me neither, doesn't change the fact that macbooks have looked better than this laptop for years
@@RycoonGalloy I disagree respectfully.
@@blurryface5940 you disagree that they are beautiful? sure, but minimalistic? you can't disagree on a fact, macs are clearly more minimalist with no vent underneath, with no huge YOGA writing on the side, and a protruding camera bump
The internals of this laptop heavily resemble my XPS 15 9570, down to the heat pipes and SSD thermal foam.
I really do miss socketed RAM and especially CPUs in laptops. Being able to grab the top-of-the-line CPU for the chipset 5+ years down the line really helps with keeping it out of a landfill. 64 GB of board-soldered RAM is really quite generous and nice though, so props to Lenovo for that one.
Anyone else get the title on the thumbnail in (maybe)Arabic?
yea i did in Hindi, that's strange
I got this thumbnail in Hindi even though I am not Indian and do not live near India?
@@hawi35 Same here for me. It's weird
The way jerry drag the edge on the Recycle bin makes me chuckle HAHA! 🤣
This machine is a beast
How amazing we are able to see such laptop
First,also first time seeing something uploaded 20 secs ago
I was about to put "You ain't first" but you actually are.
Impressive
imagine being first
@@alexanderthegreatish4079 Iam actualy still more surprised seeing something uploaded that recently :P, like few minutes used to be my best i think, now poof 20 secs
I like how after he opened a laptop then immediately delete Microsoft Edge😂😂😂
That thing is a beast. Very nice.
Thats a great looking machine. As an iMac user, I must say this machine may end up being my next purchase since its upgrade-able, portable AND ACCESSIBLE! Kudos Lenovo..
Bro, a switch could almost beat the imac.
If you don't need a laptop I highly suggest to just build a pc. For similar money you get about double the performance on almost every aspect. Just have to remember that you'll need a monitor, keyboard and mouse.
@@Daniel-dj7fh Yep. I used to build Windows boxes many years ago but switched over to Mac when Vista shit the bed... might be time to switch back.
So glad they changed the double hinge which notoriously broke on the older models.
So happy to watch this. So freaking Sick! Can wait to do this on furuture cars .
You can tell he whanted to keep this one. You deserve it Zack.
Thanks for sharing 👍
Wish there would be a GPU + CPU sustained full load clockspeed test. My old 7th generation Intel Lenovo Yoga throttles really really hard under full load and is commonplace in the forums.
This is cool but I’m definitely more looking forward to seeing a review of the Framework 16” when it comes out
Yes
Wow! Instead of a notch, they just made the bezel "bump" out. Finally a logical move from a company
Good review❤