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"Nov 13 (Reuters) - Global sales of fully electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles rose 35% in October from the same month last year, led by a 54% jump in sales in China, market research firm Rho Motion said on Wednesday." (Reuters) Only the US is falling behind, because the US can't stomach the fact that Chinese are so far better in high-end tech as the US. This will destroy USA's hegemony even further.
That's exactly the kind of behavior that is stinting our progress and bright future, and why we can't have nice things. How do you expect that the [insert your 'favorite' car brand here] lower executive will be able to buy his third Rolex this year, the pink one this time, with that kind of an attitude?! To the gulag with you!
@@Low760you mean the fuel excise that is a tax on vehicle owners that is suposed to be used to maintain our roads, that heavier more damaging EV owners don't pay
I asked a local councillor here in Bridport UK who was an advocate of funded solar installations "will your solar set up charge an EV?" He looked at me blank, I asked him again as I thought he didn't hear me, "will your solar ser up charge an EV?". Nope, still a blank look. This electrification is a control mechanism on a very questionable 'green' agenda. It will not work if you want freedom.
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@@bbbf09lol where’s your example of that? I’m sure there’s plenty of corporate oil money influence on gov policy/lobbying but the fuel industry getting subsidies is honestly a funny joke. You know fuel here is taxed at approx 50c per litre (which largely doesnt even go back into road infrastructure).
I don't think it's ever been about saving the planet but shifting, yet again, the burden on to the public while they continue business as usual. I can't see how electric vehicles will ever really solve anything.
@@avanap8096 That's the faux left. There is a non-EV left who are red pilled environmentalists and not the blue pilled EV loving environmentalists. They are the ones who understand energy, exponential maths, resources, deep ecology, overshoot, know the difference between a problem and a predicament and who are mature enough to consider the mortality of BAU. They are not afraid to consider negative conclusions as possibilities. Few and far between and unheard.
It never really happened, but if you start with small numbers any growth looks big when you focus on percentages. Going from 5 to 8 is a 60% improvement, which looks impressive you ignore that the rest of the market is significantly larger
Most people will use them as a house battery for years to come once decomitioned as a car, once its run its course, the parts can be recycled and used again, it's not rocket science that renewable free energy is a better solution, or do you not understand how it actually works? Solar will work together with hydro and wind power in conjunction with fossil fuels. No more massive scale endless mining, once the renewables are mined, they get recycled, it only ever needs a top up of metals to suffice, and with sodium ion solid state batteries about to flood the market, its gunna be cheap as, waaaay cheaper than fossil fuels.
@Inisfad Yep exactly, free power if coupled with solar. It will only get cheaper, and once it drops below a certain recharge percentage, it gets dismantled and recycled back to another battery, hence the word renewable. The amount we save with free power and lowering costs won't matter as the renewable aspect is soo cheap and better in the long run. Get ya head around it kids, it's happening. Everyone is a nay sayer until they realise they will save tonnes in this crappy economy.
What? I thought we could consume our way out of our issues with millions of 2 tonne anonyboxes filled with rare earth metals. Well that's what the fully charged show says. Those goons replaced worshipping God with electricity.
That fully charged guy has seriously put 3 fingers fully into the 3 phase and fried his brain. I have forced myself to watch him a bit, like many of the other EVangilists to keep myself informed. They really are kidding themselves, and or being very well remunerated by someone?
Had a guy tell me I was destroying the environment with my petrol vehicle, even although he admitted he was in his 5th new car (3rd EV) for the exact same period I’ve owned my single petrol powered on. Completely didn’t understand his use of resources for those extra four vehicles would take his EV hundreds (probably thousands) of years to neutral and more km’s than any human could drive to justify his micro electric penial device.
Harry Truman made that point decades ago. "Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook." It's orders of magnitude worse today than it was when President Truman made this statement.
@nathanhale6477 I would dispute it is the point. If you want to drive an ideology it's not about making crooks rich. It's about the price of influential individuals.
@theodavies8754 Obviously, it's much cheaper to buy off a few crooked politicians than for the ones waving the cash to just do what's right. The proof in that comes from the fact that payoffs done so often by so many.
As a non-Australian watching this video, my thoughts can be summed up by Lisa Simpson's remark in the Australia episode: "I know all those words but they don't make sense!"
@@peejayem4700 I'm more than happy to let the fanboys take the financial hits while I wait for the tech to improve, cars to get cheaper, grid to get cleaner, and charging infrastructure to improve.....
Would you spend over $50k for a comfortable sunfree powered ride to work everyday and free power for 15-20years? Well that's what it's would cost, and that's now, it's about to blow a whole lot of old ice applications away with pure cost factor. Mines in Oz already have massive electric mine dump trucks. Cheap world flight is about to happen, the competition will drive world travel and tourism worldwide is going to boom because of the price point. The amount of applications is endless.
I’m the first to admit ev’s aren’t for everyone but I bought a used one which side stepped the depreciation hit. Run it from the rooftop, great performance, next to no maintenance and has plenty of remaining warranty. Works for me.
we need to stop calling them EV's and start calling the RCE vehicles (remote combustion engine), the greenies think the power just comes out of the wall. The same players who think we no longer need farmers because woolies and coles sell food.
@@pablorages1241 It might be rare but the more common option is to drop significantly more coin on a lifestyle 4WD/suv that will never leave the bitumen
Just some feedback and a counterpoint, as I suspect most on this channel are not so fond of EVs. I’m a builder of sustainable homes and our clients just let us know their house is $500 in credit after 12month living in the home while charging an EV. Now they are an older couple and only drive 5000k a year, but 90% of that is charged at home during the day. They are very happy with their electric setup. So maybe not for everyone, but this shows what can be achieved for those that want to take the option. And with vehicle to grid standards now set, electric cars in the near future could do double duty & become the batteries for our homes at night. That might just change the value equation…
How about this. My wife drives like her hair is on fire and has cost me at least four sets of brakes. I can’t get her to drive any other way. I either divorce her and lose the house or get her an EV with an 800V architecture so every time she touches the brakes it launches her head through the windscreen. Guess which one I chose
How much did that solar upgrade cost them? What were their electricity bills previously? What is the rate of depreciation on the EV? How do these costs compare to other options they could have taken? I don’t give a fat rat’s clacker about any environmental benefits of putting solar panels on my home. The only thing I care about is the economics of it. I have yet to see someone make a convincing economic argument for the solar/ev setup. Depending upon your local climate, pattern of electricity use, and likely length of occupation in your existing dwelling, I am also yet to be convinced of the economic benefits of putting a solar array on your home, irrespective of whether you own an ev or not. Still, each to their own.
@bruiser6479 solor panels & the batteries also degrade, say a 10yr lifespan. A relative of mine has a loft full of useless batteries that they can't be bothered to replace, making the whole system redundant.
I'm a recently retired tax advisor. For those unfamiliar with salary packaging it's a process largely only available in hospital and community sectors. Full time workers with packaging arrangements will generally be paying a minimum of $5000 LESS per year in tax than others on the same incomes. In my mind it's the biggest rort of all in our tax system.
Hi Gregallan2842, in having witnessed the near furore within the BYD Skark owners group from those who've placed orders based on their novated lease options it's been intriguing for the least. As potential owners scramble to determine delivery dates, finance costs and accessory options I cannot help but wonder if so many are caught up in the hype, much like the release of the next iPhone or Nike basketball shoe.
@@animal355 Toyota, the company that clings to combustion like a heroin addict clings to the drug. The EV train left the station long ago and several legacy car manufacturers weren't on board. I wouldn't exactly call them reliable and unbiased sources.
@@G-ra-ha-m because all EVs burn? Occasionally a burning car indeed makes the news, but most cases it's a combustion engine car that set fire to itself and nobody bats an eyelid. If it's an EV on the other hand, oh boy the scathing...
I asked a local councillor here in Bridport UK who was an advocate of funded solar installations "will your solar set up charge an EV?" He looked at me blank, I asked him again as I thought he didn't hear me, "will your solar ser up charge an EV?". Nope, still a blank look. This electrification of the transport industry is a control mechanism on a very questionable 'green' agenda. EV's do not increase ones freedom.
My 2009 Toyota Prado has already had four previous owners and has 400,000kms its the 1GRFE , this has reduced the need for new car production and associated emissions. This extends the car's environmental benefits, making it an even more eco-friendly choice compared to buying a new EV charged with fossil fuels.
I drive a 30 year old VW with over 300,000km. I’ve just bought new pistons, rods, valves etc for a rebuild, but it still has good compression and barely uses any oil, so I’m patiently waiting for it to pack it in, because I’m keen to try my hand at an engine rebuild. This is much better for the environment than disposable EVs and way more fun.
@@justsendit3217 by chance also an uncle that smokes two packs of cigarettes per day since 1980 but doesn't have lung cancer? Yes there are high mileage ICE cars out there. But by now there are also high mileage EVs around. On the flip side there are both ICE and EVs that croaked well before their time.
I would have liked a comparison to ICE vehicle sales as I thought all car sales are down here in Europe. I never understand why people go into debt to buy a car, of any kind, when there is plenty of cheap used cars around that do exactly the same thing.
Cold hard facts…… I’m sure you have caused some buttock hurt. I just drove 750 km on Sunday and certainly didn’t have time to plan, nor ‘set a route’. Nah, I’m a working class Australian, just trying to get home so I can work on Monday to pay my taxes. This electric car, charging planning, and seemingly controlled life we are expected to conform to is a Joke. I’d vote for you if you were planning to get the country back on track..
You used the magic word - 'control'. EV's basically restrict your daily activities to staying mostly local - having to endure the plain and cost of long distance travel in an EV is the definition of frustration. Google '15 minute cities' if you dare.
I'm in West Texas, home of Tesla, and I've only ever seen two Teslas in my area and no other EVs. When I drove from TX to CA and back (3,052 miles or 4,911 kilometers) I only saw four or five EVs on the freeways and five thousand or more other cars and trucks. I suspect a lot of these 'Sales' are registered to show a sale and claim subsidies then parked in a field somewhere like they are in China.
Horses for courses. Doing some back-of-the-envelope sums... say, El Paso to San Diego.. 10 hrs/750 miles.. maybe 3 recharges in Tesla.... But hereabouts, during peak times, the M25 motorway/freeway (which circles London) carries between 4,000 and 6,000 vehicles per hour in each direction between junctions nine and 11 (22 miles). The busiest section of the M25 is junction 10, where more than 300,000 vehicles pass through each day. I suppose that this kind of environment is where Tesla comes into it's own. Meanwhile, I'll stick to my diesel !
I love my EV6. Every second Wednesday when the Oil companies put up 98 by 50c per litre in Perth! Mine's Charging in the Garage by Solar right now. A bloke with a Tesla told me they don't get Serviced at all?? If it's true that makes them a Disposable car? Maybe that's one reason Tesla's lose so much value too?
@ yes all for those reasons especially the running cost Because the Ev is a piece of junk when the battery life is over. 100% disposal scrap once the battery dies. And the battery won’t last more than a few years with the range it once had. It’s a throwaway product no resale value.
@rene9377 part of the decreased resale value can probably be attributed to rapid technological advancements. Better batteries, more range and faster charging on newer cars will of course decrease the value of cars that have been on the road since several years.
I'm still waiting for a good reason to ditch gas. The EV government-industrial complex hasn't been able to give a good reason yet. And they've had years to come up with one.
Unlike BEV's, Betamax was actually considerably better then VHS, they just didn't have the same marketing as VHS, and Betamax was typically a bit more expensive. Betamax actually lasted longer than most folk think it did, as the underpinning technology in professional video production, as 'U-matic', a very good video format that technical support until as late as 2016. I used some U-matic gear back in the day, and it made anything recorded on vhs look like it'd been recorded on a potato.
@@xpusostomos That too, yeah, another poor marketing decision, regarding the very limited number of manufacturers of both VCR's and tapes to whom Sony licensed their IP. Apparently 'typical' consumers of the time also didn't care much about the better quality Betamax offered, it just didn't justify the higher cost, at a time when VCR's were deffo not the cheap disposable commodities that they went on to become.
The question I always ask is why are we spending a Trillion dollars a year on War if we are all going to be driving EVs? It is hard to understand why people drive EVs. The only reasons I can think of are: 1. Driveability. This is a no brainer especially for those that have good regenerative braking and One Pedal Driving 2. Handling is so much better because of the lower centre of gravity and often 50:50 weight distribution you get from dedicated EVs 3. Quietness 4. Servicing costs, but that is dependent on manufacturer
The Novated lease deals instigated by government are only for some public service employees. This is unfair to the general public, but the way financiers rort the leases they are not that good anyway. Governments can never get anything right. As for people not wanting EV's; it has something to do with their promoting EV superhighways and them not working. Drive Brisbane to Townsville in a BYD and you are stuck overnight at Rockhampton. The only 50kW (Chargefox) charger is broken, along with its 22 kW charger. Tesla chargers don't work, and you have to stay at a motel and use a charger they say is 22kW but only runs at 7kW. The same brand is at Sarina and also lies about the charge rate. You couldn't charge at MT Larcom before Rocky because it is broken, then you find another broken at Marlborough so you have 418 kms between working chargers at Miriam Vale and Carmilla (one 50kW each). The QLD government talks it up, as does the RACQ but it is absolute crap. Rocky in the middle has been broken for well over 4 months. Nobody is pulling their finger out. I believe charger owners are not interested in fixing them.
Imagine if the Government took those billions of EV incentive dollars and spent them on renewable energy projects. It would be more effective in reducing carbon emissions, and would reduce our energy bills.
But the lobbyists aren’t from renewable energy companies they are from the FCAI and the EV council. Your comment makes no sense if there are no lobbyists from renewables installers and utility companies
The EV sales boom hasn't even begun. It's like that line in the film Dante's peak, where they think the worst of the eruption is over, but it's that the mountain was only just clearing her throat and hasn't even begun to sing yet. Same's happening with EV sales rn 😜
Hi John while your on electric vehicles Have you seen the videos of the brand new 24 million euro firestation in Germany that burned to the ground after an battery electic firtruck caught fire while charging and the fact an oversight of forgetting to put smoke detectors in the new building causing all to be lost .
Have you seen all the electric buses in Spain that haven’t burned to the ground?. EV fires per 1000 of cars on the road are x100 less than a internal combustion engine vehicle
@@Piecenotwar you're missing the point, an ICE fire is relatively controllable and able to be extinguished, an EV fire on the other hand is many times more volatile. Hear about the EV truck fire in the USA that closed a major road for about 16 hours while spewing deadly chemicals into the air and contaminating the surrounding soil / water?
@ Let’s talk about environmental damage. Exxon Valdez oil spill Deepwater Horizon The Persian Gulf War Oil Spill Amoco Cadiz Atlantic Empress Ixtoc Combined Billions of gallons of crude oil spilled into the environment, and that’s just some of the oil spills not all of them.
I live in the Sydney Inner West Council area. We are the lucky recipients of approx 130 EV chargers in the next 12 months. Compare that to Blacktown Council, which is lucky enough to receive less than 10 chargers in the most populated council in NSW. Don’t you love public money being directed to wealthy residents. Given the enormous lack of on street parking here, it will also mean that many locals will lose their street parking space to Tesla owners.
The BYD Shark 6 is $45K here in Mexico but $57,900 in Australia. That might have something to do with it... here in Mexic a LOT of Chinese vehicles are appearing, many of them electric.
We charged 4 cars and paid close to 3000$ in electrical bill last year. Show me a family running 4 diesel/ gasoline cars and run a house for 3000$ a year. You should pay attention and do some changes. You are wasting money if you are running a diesel or gasoline car.
The big problem for full electric cars is the truth is starting to catch up with the hype… A colleague of mine bought an EV last year, to take advantage of the FBT benefits. Now he realises there is little demand for used EVs, so he’s unlikely to sell the car for enough to cover the balloon payment at the end of the lease. Now all I hear from him is doom/gloom about how much he thinks he’ll owe when the lease finishes - hardly sounds like someone that is lining up to buy a second EV…
@@sylviam6535 - when properly maintained. But this doesn't only apply to modern engines. It's always been the case. A properly serviced car will outlast one that hardly sees an oil change. I replaced my 1992 Subaru when it was 19 years old with a 2006 Ford Falcon (5 years old). That Falcon has now been replaced with a 2023 Hyundai Venue, a small SUV style hatch/wagon with a conventional 1.6L engine driving a 6 speed auto via a torque converter. It suits my needs perfectly. The key to all my cars longevity is properly following the manufacturers servicing regime. EV's are suitable for some people. I would not throw shade at them because their choice isn't my choice. We are not all the same.
@@lunsmann - I generally agree, but also think that reliability went down during the 1970s and 1980s (although design creativity was great during that time). Also, some people believe in performing oil and other fluid changes far more frequently than the manufacturer recommends - I’ve never done that, but know people that do.
@@somat111 - When one factors in the cost of the vehicle at todays interest rates + the cost of electricity in Australia + the heavy depreciation, these vehicles are a complete money pit.
I got an e-scooter earlier this year. It's great. There's a path where I live nearly all the way to work. Do nearly 20km a day. Saved me a few tanks of fuel so far. BUT it's also shown me what the limitations of an EV would be, on a micro scale. Do not want.
I have a major problem with my tax being used to sponsor personal vehicle purchase, the product either earns its place in the market or it fails. Let's remember passenger cars contribute so little to emissions that this is bullshit.
Thank goodness. Pity Porsche has tanked their Caymans and the next release will be whiney EVs - boring, boring, boring. PS how does anyone tow a tonne or two with an EV and not damage it?
I read the E Transits doesn't come with a tow rating at all, as its range was as low as 30 miles with a fully loaded builder's trailer. Ford simply elected to not rate it for towing at all, to avoid the bad publicity and embarrassment that could ensue if they did.
So if we are at peak oil and fuel supplies have dwindled by 2040 then probs all cars ice or EV will mostly be gone. I won't be crying about the demise of a stupid solution to transporting a relatively small mass via a massive machine.
Today's cars track you. ICE or EV. Every thing you do. Every thing you say. Every where you go. Is recorded and sent to a central database. You will need to pay monthly subscriptions forever to be able even to open the door. I wanted to get a new car until I realised my privacy is gone no matter what new car I get.
There are pros and cons to everything Currently evs are expensive to a lot of the general public, Charging infrastructure is a joke, Battery tech needs to be seriously improved so we can reduce the weight of the car and increase the speed we charge it Other than that the rest is just pure ignorance. Hydrocarbons for all its good grace is a finite resource. One day it will run out and all our precious petrol/diesel dinosaurs would occupy nothing but junkyards. The main reason evs haven’t caught on a lot is because it’s expensive. The more evs are there the more charging infrastructure would get better, the more research will go into improving the current tech. It’s a vicious cycle but an eventuality nonetheless
@@TheKnobCalledTone. Most of the arguments apply to any place though, eg "omg the grid will collapse if we all charge at the same time". Agreed though, the viability of today's EVs also depends on the distances driven
Norway's EV sales have had big subsidies from their government, paid for from their sovereign wealth fund that comes from nationalized oil sales. Hypocrites?
I find it incredibly tone deaf that the federal government has slapped on the ute tax right in the middle of the biggest cost of living crisis in living memory. Unintended consequences include car makers like Hyundai pulling diesels for hybrids for an eye watering $10K to $12K premium. What will all of this do... reduce Australia's emissions by a fraction of a percent. I'd much rather prioritise emissions reductions where we can have a bigger impact as long as it does not stuff up the economy. As for EVs, they are even more expensive to buy, insure, replace tyres for and not forget epic depreciation.
Well.... yes, I agree EV's make little sense as a stand alone proposition. But the government just approved v2x... so EV's just became a big home solar battery with a free second car thrown in for your local short trips. If you (John) are advocating for home solar with battery storage as a worthwhile eco investment, then because an ev with a bidirectional charger does the same job only with more capacity, arguably it is a better investment as it can replace both your second car AND your home solar battery. And the car's battery will be maybe 4x bigger than your typical home solar battery, so will cover a lot more inclement weather or a much longer grid failure. You can't both sell home solar batteries, AND pour scorn on those who buy batteries that happen to be purchased with the "portable" option added.
Ok stupid question, I've never done a novated lease, are you tied into purchasing the car at the end of the lease? I thought one of the advantages was being able to hand the car back if the resale was well under your agreed buy out figure? I'm sure the imminent release of the new Tesla Model Y has hurt their sales this year, no matter how much they have dropped the price. It'll be interesting to see their sale figures for the first half of next year once the new model is released.
I like my ice it can sit in the garage for 3 weeks go to it and it’s still full and drive it 400 miles with the heater on as it’s cold in the uk and have no range problem
Can do the same with an EV tbh. My car sit for a week and loose 1% maybe. I don't own a Tesla that have phantom drain while parked. And you don't need 400 miles of range 99% of the time anyway.
It's a dry shallow hole that you are exploring down there AE. What will be the Wheels COTY (Aust only). The industry is agog with anticipation. Will it be an EV? Albo hopes so, Will take the Political Pressure off everything else I'd expect.
There is a video on youtube that states that having a HYBRID could mean more engine wear even though one would think that less engine running should mean the opposite, reason being that short runs could mean the engine never getting up to proper running temperature and therefore might mean premature wear.
Always follow the manufacturers service schedule to the letter. Any engine not properly maintained will wear out and fail earlier than a properly maintained one. This is NOT an issue unless you are one of those who never change the oil.
@@G-ra-ha-m Yes, my sons company car, a Subaru impreza has it, it seems to work ok, however as it operates through the computer and probably via a relay, then its just another thing to go wrong,my neighbours relatively new WRX died a few days ago in his driveway.
My wife and I had an interesting and expensive experience with novated leasing of a Honda Crv a few years ago. It all seemed great with her work taking out the cash before she got it, we never missed it. Then our circumstances changed and we got a letter from the Commonwealth bank Hire Purchase ( remember that term) department telling us how much the fortune was that we owed them. Yes the novated lease system is actually no different to the hire purchase agreements we feared but felt forced to sign up to when we got our first shitboxes. Another formal government fraud to manage in our lives. We live and learn. The tax benefits were nominal at best but the bill later was quite distressing. Never again.
You're right, no brain required, Norway is about the only govt who kept the promise to create the support infrastructure so that transition would actually work. USA Aussie and NZ are pathetic in the extreme and want to tax everything everyway, and still not fulfill the promises
Norway's EV sales have had big subsidies from their government, paid for from their sovereign wealth fund that comes from nationalized oil sales. Hypocrites?
@ No, doing the smart thing with the earned money. I was in the outback in September, I never seen so much of nothing and a lot of sunshine. 5 km2 gives the same output as a average nuclear power plant……in combination with a big battery plant you already have you have energy for free. Open your eyes and see the possibilities, it is a political choice, nothing else.
Guy on the radio recently returned from Europe was there for 3 months. He said hardly seen an EV on the streets or on Autobahns….surely our Government isn’t lying to us ??? ."…….again.
F that,i'll stick with my pristine 18yr old Aussie made 5.4 lt V8 ,knowing how good it is for the environment as opposed to the massively energy intensive and environmentally damaging Chemical BBQ's any day.
Apparently there is a new refresh coming soon so It will be the most sold car for sure. I am used to see trucks hauling Toyota, Mazda etc but lately all I see is Tesla and KIA vehicles. ICE car prices went up so much that I don't blame people for going the EV route. People living in buildings and rentals don't have the option to charge at home so this will be a problem until we reach 1000km per charge. All it takes is 10% increase in battery storage per year and this tribalism will be over in 5 years.
in 2023 there were 3 pickups and one SUV with higher sales. Add to that many manufacturers had multiple models in the top 25 selling vehicles with more total sales than Tesla and your claim looks rather weak. Tesla is NOT a top seller and that's with incentives. How many more Hondas would have sold if the government helped consumers pay for them? Tesla is a scam and Elon is a scam artist. Perhaps you'd claim that Tesla drove Stelantis to the brink of bankruptcy (it didn't, they did that themselves).
Isn't it shocking that sales might go up on a group of vehicles that almost all governments are trying to force people to buy, by penalizing manufactures for making and selling anything else, by artificially taxing the alternative's so that they are more expensive, by making zones where you have to pay extra to drive if you don't have the "Government approved" vehicle, buy using taxpayers money to subsidize purchasing the "Government approved" vehicle, and by telling everyone that by a certain date it is the only type of vehicle they will let you buy. I just can't understand why sales might go up.😮 I am not against EV's although owning one makes zero sense for me personally. I am retired, drive very little, cannot (by government code) put solar panels on my roof, electricity is somewhat expensive where I live, public charging is almost non existent where I drive, running the A/C in your vehicle is almost a requirement from April through October where I live, and I drive a 24 year old vehicle that I have owned since new that is in showroom condition and gets around 48mpg mixed use, and I perform ALL maintenance and repairs myself. So even with the Government's thumb on the scale it makes zero sense financially or environmentally for me to purchase an EV.
Wait? What? Who said the Tesla model Y is the biggest selling car in the world? Or ever? That is absolutely impossible. There certainly wasn't any such evidence or claim in this video.
I'm in Australia, big motoring market. Motor Trend used to bombard my feeds with ads, even emails, but after discovering the pay wall, I also found the copyright wall. Lucky it was a trial. Point being that their outreach was rubbish. Should have had a smart tv streaming channel. Problem with YT and I still don't get this; unless the channel has defined a video list, videos play latest to first by default on autoplay. The complete opposite of how you watch a series. Mind torturingly stupid. There is no choice for basic database sort by tools.
I drive a manual WRX but I don't understand the hate for EVs. Nobody is forcing anyone to buy one. Did you fall out with the novated lease company that you were spruiking? And what's with your commentary on the voice to parliament and your jab about transitioning? I think you're starting to show your true colours "dude".
@@christiandisch8147 No better for the environment, high prices, steep depreciation, increased insurance prices, less convenient, wasted public funding, short product life and more dangerous
@@pablorages1241 Couldn't be more wrong in each bit of your supporting argument. Maybe stop repeating tired arguments from EV deniers and actually look at, test drive or talk with EV owners. See what answers you come up with.
@pablorages1241 high price and deprecation I can agree with. Less convenient, I don't know (I charge at home and it's quite convenient). Wasted public funding is in the eye of the beholder. Hydrogen is something I feel is a waste of money, yet governments pour money into that too. More dangerous? Hmmm statistics say otherwise.
@9:30 And I want the freedom to not breathe in the toxic fumes of your fossil car :P Glad i also don't live in a place where dirty coal is burned to generate electricity on top of this.
Why are we subsidising the Chinese car manufacturers when we could spend the money in looking after our own hospitals, roads in an economic crisis. In the past we did that for our own auto industry which was great.
@@rattusfinkus I thought Governments might get desperate and increase the cost of ICE ownership but bit hard at present while they are trying to reduce inflation thankfully.
@marklittle3551 ICE costs will increase as production decreases, look at all the legacy auto manufacturers slowly going broke. EVs will keep getting cheaper as numbers increase and technology improves.
I am from the Gold Coast and it is full of Tesla's. I moved to a small country town west of the coast and I forgot they existed. My new town is filled with Dodge Ram v8's and Ford trucks. There is one charging station in town and about 20 petrol stations. Happy to keep my 6.0 Caprice!
Global EV sales are only increasing because of China ..in almost all other countries they are in decline , hence the slashing of prices being seen in most places.
I do a school run a few days a week picking up the grand kids. One child goes to a big private school near Oatlands, Nth Parramatta, which I can't get my head around being a retired pensioner. Whilst waiting in the car park in my humble R53 Pathy, Had it 2 years now. ( the only Nissan That I can see) which I love by the way. Just thought I'd throw that in JC. I counted no less than 6 Tesla's in a row drive in followed by BM's, Benz's Audi's ect. I felt out of place.
Sorry dude, EVs haven't even started. I, like many others are holding off until a suitable EV hits our shores at a reasonable price. There's some awesome EVs coming in 2025 look at the Zeekr 7X for example or the Riddara Horizon. And V2G will be the clincher but that's probably more like 2026. I'll check in with you clowns next year.
EV's have actually started and as soon as those for whom an EV is a viable option, have purchased one, we'll see EV sales tapering off. EVs work for home owners with a garage or those who can charge at work. They work for no one else. V2G will have a ruinous effect on the battery.
@marcg1686 false. V2G does not ruin batteries. Not everyone who wants an EV has got one, I don't. As EVs reach price parity more people will realise that EVs are the cheapest option long term.
@@rattusfinkus The studies that have shown that V2G can be beneficial to battery life have compared an ideal V2G DoD with the hamfisted charging strategies practised by many drivers. I generally don't discharge my battery below 30% and I don't charge to above 80% unless I intend to drive a somewhat loner distance soon after. V2G at ambient temperatures of -5 to -10°C probably won't work and at high ambient temperatures it won't work either. There'll be a Goldilocks temperature range where it does work effectively. EVs don't work if you can't charge at home, or at work. That applies to many car drivers around the world.
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"Nov 13 (Reuters) - Global sales of fully electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles rose 35% in October from the same month last year, led by a 54% jump in sales in China, market research firm Rho Motion said on Wednesday." (Reuters)
Only the US is falling behind, because the US can't stomach the fact that Chinese are so far better in high-end tech as the US. This will destroy USA's hegemony even further.
My serious character flaw = not spending money I don't have, on something I can't afford, when the thing I already own, isn't broken.
That's actually my super power 😂😅😊
@@michaelohman4980 It flew over your head 😂
Well damn, dude, who's asking you to? Ignore anyone asking you to trash crap you don't want to just 'cause they want to sell something.
That's exactly the kind of behavior that is stinting our progress and bright future, and why we can't have nice things. How do you expect that the [insert your 'favorite' car brand here] lower executive will be able to buy his third Rolex this year, the pink one this time, with that kind of an attitude?! To the gulag with you!
Strange I have that problem aswell
If electric vehicles are so good then we should not need any incentives to buy them
The ones they made 100 years ago were Ok.
@@G-ra-ha-m - and sales were still eclipsed by ICEs.
Corporations get fuel excise discounts, they should be removed too then.
@@Low760you mean the fuel excise that is a tax on vehicle owners that is suposed to be used to maintain our roads, that heavier more damaging EV owners don't pay
@@Low760Enter the strawman.
Perhaps people are disappointed that hooking up their electric cars to their solar array at night was less effective than predicted
You must be wrong…..Albosleazy told us that was the future
Say it while you can, sounds like misinformation and/or disinformation to me……
I asked a local councillor here in Bridport UK who was an advocate of funded solar installations "will your solar set up charge an EV?" He looked at me blank, I asked him again as I thought he didn't hear me, "will your solar ser up charge an EV?". Nope, still a blank look.
This electrification is a control mechanism on a very questionable 'green' agenda. It will not work if you want freedom.
Believe John went through the SCIENCE of solar charging not working a while back.
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Watch this space...
The Government is not throwing the bone. Taxpayers are throwing the bone. There is no such thing as Government money, only Taxpayers' money.
But we have a thing called government debt, therefore you aren't paying enough in taxes.
Government extortion
They just think its their money.
@@np4029 Or perhaps, just like all of us are having to, our 'servants' need to spend less..
Taxpayer money is spent by government.
It's the old submission:- if EV's are that great, take away all of the subsidies and let's see how the market reacts...
what subsidies? you mean the massively generous ones applied to fossil fuels?
@@bbbf09end all subsidies
@bbbf09 billions of taxpayer money have been given to green companies. Many who went bankrupt.
@@bbbf09lol where’s your example of that?
I’m sure there’s plenty of corporate oil money influence on gov policy/lobbying but the fuel industry getting subsidies is honestly a funny joke.
You know fuel here is taxed at approx 50c per litre (which largely doesnt even go back into road infrastructure).
Lol why didn’t we do that when we built those rubbish falcons and commodores ? Both subsidised since day one
Our EV is Gone. No more for us
Saving the planet one two ton heap of junk at a time.
New Porsche Macan EV is 2.4 tonne.
2400 Kg of highly processed resources and materials just for one car ..
I don't think it's ever been about saving the planet but shifting, yet again, the burden on to the public while they continue business as usual. I can't see how electric vehicles will ever really solve anything.
@@erichoberg3502 They are worse for the planet than ICE cars when all the factors are considered.
2 tons? That’s light in most of the top selling car charts
😂😆
When did the sale boom even start for EVs 🤷🏼♂️
Australia is so far behind as usual
Look at the graphs!! It did happen but the curve isn't as exponential as predicted by left wing fringers
@@dan666888 Australia is not behind, it's just not worth it and good on the ones who worked it out. Which is most of the new car buyers!
@@avanap8096 That's the faux left. There is a non-EV left who are red pilled environmentalists and not the blue pilled EV loving environmentalists. They are the ones who understand energy, exponential maths, resources, deep ecology, overshoot, know the difference between a problem and a predicament and who are mature enough to consider the mortality of BAU. They are not afraid to consider negative conclusions as possibilities. Few and far between and unheard.
It never really happened, but if you start with small numbers any growth looks big when you focus on percentages. Going from 5 to 8 is a 60% improvement, which looks impressive you ignore that the rest of the market is significantly larger
Wait until they try to resell the EV 😮
No one wants them 😮
Most people will use them as a house battery for years to come once decomitioned as a car, once its run its course, the parts can be recycled and used again, it's not rocket science that renewable free energy is a better solution, or do you not understand how it actually works?
Solar will work together with hydro and wind power in conjunction with fossil fuels.
No more massive scale endless mining, once the renewables are mined, they get recycled, it only ever needs a top up of metals to suffice, and with sodium ion solid state batteries about to flood the market, its gunna be cheap as, waaaay cheaper than fossil fuels.
@@semihard9732 blah blah blah
@@semihard9732 A bit of kool aid here. Even Musk’s power wall only gives a lifetime value of 10 years.
A quick look at Carsales would suggest otherwise
@Inisfad Yep exactly, free power if coupled with solar.
It will only get cheaper, and once it drops below a certain recharge percentage, it gets dismantled and recycled back to another battery, hence the word renewable.
The amount we save with free power and lowering costs won't matter as the renewable aspect is soo cheap and better in the long run.
Get ya head around it kids, it's happening.
Everyone is a nay sayer until they realise they will save tonnes in this crappy economy.
What? I thought we could consume our way out of our issues with millions of 2 tonne anonyboxes filled with rare earth metals. Well that's what the fully charged show says. Those goons replaced worshipping God with electricity.
That fully charged guy has seriously put 3 fingers fully into the 3 phase and fried his brain.
I have forced myself to watch him a bit, like many of the other EVangilists to keep myself informed.
They really are kidding themselves, and or being very well remunerated by someone?
@@davidhancock91 I suspect they are 'non geniune'. Actors.
Had a guy tell me I was destroying the environment with my petrol vehicle, even although he admitted he was in his 5th new car (3rd EV) for the exact same period I’ve owned my single petrol powered on. Completely didn’t understand his use of resources for those extra four vehicles would take his EV hundreds (probably thousands) of years to neutral and more km’s than any human could drive to justify his micro electric penial device.
@@joshuanicholson420 If you're driving a diesel hatchback that thinks 5L/100km is terrible fuel economy then their argument is even worse.
Well at least the electric can zap you with a bolt of lightning, the god sure can’t
It's relatively cheap to buy scientists and politicians.
Covid proved that.
Harry Truman made that point decades ago. "Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook." It's orders of magnitude worse today than it was when President Truman made this statement.
@nathanhale6477 I would dispute it is the point.
If you want to drive an ideology it's not about making crooks rich.
It's about the price of influential individuals.
@theodavies8754 Obviously, it's much cheaper to buy off a few crooked politicians than for the ones waving the cash to just do what's right. The proof in that comes from the fact that payoffs done so often by so many.
@@theodavies8754 TH-camrs are prolly cheap too.
Cassonova Bowen will be in complete denial
Good ! My inner anarchist is happy hearing this!
don't be an inny!
My inner capitalist is also happy hearing this 😂😂 I guess everybody agrees 😂
As a non-Australian watching this video, my thoughts can be summed up by Lisa Simpson's remark in the Australia episode: "I know all those words but they don't make sense!"
Just fkin get over it, EV's are here to stay. All new cars sales have crashed because the prices the makers want for them is ridiculous.
EV depreciation = Five Finger Death Punch to the knackers.
on the flip side it makes for great buying used
@@peejayem4700 I'm more than happy to let the fanboys take the financial hits while I wait for the tech to improve, cars to get cheaper, grid to get cleaner, and charging infrastructure to improve.....
Would you spend over $50k for a comfortable sunfree powered ride to work everyday and free power for 15-20years?
Well that's what it's would cost, and that's now, it's about to blow a whole lot of old ice applications away with pure cost factor.
Mines in Oz already have massive electric mine dump trucks.
Cheap world flight is about to happen, the competition will drive world travel and tourism worldwide is going to boom because of the price point.
The amount of applications is endless.
Or opportunity for a good buy?
Imagine taking a loan to buy an EV. You could as well just tell the bank too keep the money you just want to pay the monthly fee.
Imagine using cash when you can use your pretax income with no FBT. Imagine driving a car that costs you money to refuel.
Never owned a new car have you ?
I haven't read one robust reason for replacing ICE vehicles with EVs
I’m the first to admit ev’s aren’t for everyone but I bought a used one which side stepped the depreciation hit. Run it from the rooftop, great performance, next to no maintenance and has plenty of remaining warranty. Works for me.
we need to stop calling them EV's and start calling the RCE vehicles (remote combustion engine), the greenies think the power just comes out of the wall.
The same players who think we no longer need farmers because woolies and coles sell food.
@@peejayem4700 though most people aren't in that situation ... it's rare
@@pablorages1241 It might be rare but the more common option is to drop significantly more coin on a lifestyle 4WD/suv that will never leave the bitumen
@@peejayem4700 ... and the problem is?
And yet, living as I do in an outer suburb of Sydney, I see more and more EVs on the local roads, possibly charged off rooftop solar.
I’m sorry John, but’s that’s what I’m seeing around here. There are increasing numbers of brand new EVs around here!
Same I’m in Brisbane. Evs are every where. Its crazy how fast there appearing
Same in North Lakes (New Delhi) too.
Same in Perth. BYD, Tesla's, Polestars, MG, BMW, Mercedes...
EV's are the definition of economic suicide. You buy things you don't need, with money you don't have, to impress people you don't like!😂
It’s a car.
@stephenbernard3003 Or a money pit.
Just some feedback and a counterpoint, as I suspect most on this channel are not so fond of EVs.
I’m a builder of sustainable homes and our clients just let us know their house is $500 in credit after 12month living in the home while charging an EV. Now they are an older couple and only drive 5000k a year, but 90% of that is charged at home during the day. They are very happy with their electric setup. So maybe not for everyone, but this shows what can be achieved for those that want to take the option. And with vehicle to grid standards now set, electric cars in the near future could do double duty & become the batteries for our homes at night. That might just change the value equation…
Depreciation is far greater than their £500 "saving", plus all other up front costs.
How about this. My wife drives like her hair is on fire and has cost me at least four sets of brakes. I can’t get her to drive any other way. I either divorce her and lose the house or get her an EV with an 800V architecture so every time she touches the brakes it launches her head through the windscreen. Guess which one I chose
How much did that solar upgrade cost them? What were their electricity bills previously? What is the rate of depreciation on the EV? How do these costs compare to other options they could have taken? I don’t give a fat rat’s clacker about any environmental benefits of putting solar panels on my home. The only thing I care about is the economics of it. I have yet to see someone make a convincing economic argument for the solar/ev setup. Depending upon your local climate, pattern of electricity use, and likely length of occupation in your existing dwelling, I am also yet to be convinced of the economic benefits of putting a solar array on your home, irrespective of whether you own an ev or not. Still, each to their own.
@bruiser6479 solor panels & the batteries also degrade, say a 10yr lifespan. A relative of mine has a loft full of useless batteries that they can't be bothered to replace, making the whole system redundant.
@theairstig9164 finally a reason to purchase an EV ! 🤣
I'm a recently retired tax advisor. For those unfamiliar with salary packaging it's a process largely only available in hospital and community sectors. Full time workers with packaging arrangements will generally be paying a minimum of $5000 LESS per year in tax than others on the same incomes. In my mind it's the biggest rort of all in our tax system.
Hi Gregallan2842, in having witnessed the near furore within the BYD Skark owners group from those who've placed orders based on their novated lease options it's been intriguing for the least. As potential owners scramble to determine delivery dates, finance costs and accessory options I cannot help but wonder if so many are caught up in the hype, much like the release of the next iPhone or Nike basketball shoe.
It was never going to be a flash sale or a boom in EV sales, when it's more expensive and more inconvenient to own.
@@animal355 is it though?
@@christiandisch8147 yes, its more expensive and inconvenient...and according to the boss of Toyota EVs will only ever reach 30% of the car market.
@@animal355 Toyota, the company that clings to combustion like a heroin addict clings to the drug. The EV train left the station long ago and several legacy car manufacturers weren't on board. I wouldn't exactly call them reliable and unbiased sources.
"So many EVs on the road", and some of them might even make it home.
It used to all end in tears, now it's flames and smoke,,
One thing is guaranteed, they'll all make it to the recycling centre or toxic landfill!
@@OzzieKev how many stranded EVs have you seen?
@@G-ra-ha-m because all EVs burn? Occasionally a burning car indeed makes the news, but most cases it's a combustion engine car that set fire to itself and nobody bats an eyelid. If it's an EV on the other hand, oh boy the scathing...
@@christiandisch8147 only the burnt remains.
What’s your take on the Jaguar rebranding?
I asked a local councillor here in Bridport UK who was an advocate of funded solar installations "will your solar set up charge an EV?" He looked at me blank, I asked him again as I thought he didn't hear me, "will your solar ser up charge an EV?". Nope, still a blank look.
This electrification of the transport industry is a control mechanism on a very questionable 'green' agenda. EV's do not increase ones freedom.
My 2009 Toyota Prado has already had four previous owners and has 400,000kms its the 1GRFE , this has reduced the need for new car production and associated emissions. This extends the car's environmental benefits, making it an even more eco-friendly choice compared to buying a new EV charged with fossil fuels.
still burnt a huge quantity of fuel and used hundreds of litres of oil, and people have to drive behind you
I drive a 30 year old VW with over 300,000km. I’ve just bought new pistons, rods, valves etc for a rebuild, but it still has good compression and barely uses any oil, so I’m patiently waiting for it to pack it in, because I’m keen to try my hand at an engine rebuild. This is much better for the environment than disposable EVs and way more fun.
@@adamroper1197 I’d agree with you there. I have an ev and a beater 4WD. I still like working on mechanical things too.
@@justsendit3217 by chance also an uncle that smokes two packs of cigarettes per day since 1980 but doesn't have lung cancer?
Yes there are high mileage ICE cars out there. But by now there are also high mileage EVs around. On the flip side there are both ICE and EVs that croaked well before their time.
The only EV I would consider is the Ioniq 5 N, but for $120k they are taking the piss.
😂 That’s like saying the only EV I would own is a Rimac but they are $4 million, KIA actually make a EV5 stat starts at $55k
"Orange Richard Nixon's court jester"
I thank you for the resulting belly laugh.
I would have liked a comparison to ICE vehicle sales as I thought all car sales are down here in Europe.
I never understand why people go into debt to buy a car, of any kind, when there is plenty of cheap used cars around that do exactly the same thing.
Cold hard facts…… I’m sure you have caused some buttock hurt.
I just drove 750 km on Sunday and certainly didn’t have time to plan, nor ‘set a route’. Nah, I’m a working class Australian, just trying to get home so I can work on Monday to pay my taxes.
This electric car, charging planning, and seemingly controlled life we are expected to conform to is a Joke.
I’d vote for you if you were planning to get the country back on track..
You used the magic word - 'control'. EV's basically restrict your daily activities to staying mostly local - having to endure the plain and cost of long distance travel in an EV is the definition of frustration. Google '15 minute cities' if you dare.
'Paying my taxes' -- that's why you are in that car and not doing something better.
@ you have absolutely no idea about me and ‘that car’ your response is based purely on assumptions.
@@tonyb3629 You are a slave to the oil supply, which you do not control. Nobody is controlling sunlight.
@@landcruisertroopytouringan2166 good for you! I drive 20 km per day and can plan, so guess what I'm driving?
novated lease you can take and shove it where it fits (to whom it may concern)
I'm in West Texas, home of Tesla, and I've only ever seen two Teslas in my area and no other EVs. When I drove from TX to CA and back (3,052 miles or 4,911 kilometers) I only saw four or five EVs on the freeways and five thousand or more other cars and trucks. I suspect a lot of these 'Sales' are registered to show a sale and claim subsidies then parked in a field somewhere like they are in China.
Horses for courses. Doing some back-of-the-envelope sums... say, El Paso to San Diego.. 10 hrs/750 miles.. maybe 3 recharges in Tesla....
But hereabouts, during peak times, the M25 motorway/freeway (which circles London) carries between 4,000 and 6,000 vehicles per hour in each direction between junctions nine and 11 (22 miles). The busiest section of the M25 is junction 10, where more than 300,000 vehicles pass through each day. I suppose that this kind of environment is where Tesla comes into it's own. Meanwhile, I'll stick to my diesel !
@@denisripley8699 Those people queuing on the M25 are commuting to pay for the green taxes and vehicles.
Where I live in a relatively remote part of Australia- the area is crawling with Tesla’s, all models
Lol also regional Australia 4 hours from Sydney we have 14 super chargers in town and Tesla’s all over the place
@@chrisward5626 I can't afford a Tesla. few can.
Wanneroo is an inner suburb of Perth, i.e., the suburban area has spread well past Wanneroo. It is not a country town sitting outside of suburbia.
It's not an inner suburb like in Sydney where you drive an hour out - and you're still in Sydney. Lol
A lot of people I know who have owned them tell me not to bother buying one.
About time EVs stood on their own 4 wheels without sucking on the government tit. We got enough inept, corrupt and or criminal politicians to do that!
Wrong, it's your tax money they are sucking on.
@@RavenAutoPartsCo we have no EV subsidies and plenty EVs on the road. Seems to work just fine in this little alpine country.
I love my EV6. Every second Wednesday when the Oil companies put up 98 by 50c per litre in Perth! Mine's Charging in the Garage by Solar right now. A bloke with a Tesla told me they don't get Serviced at all?? If it's true that makes them a Disposable car? Maybe that's one reason Tesla's lose so much value too?
You can't polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter and call it a Tesla.
But Alboslezy said you could recharge overnight from your solar panels. Was he telling porkies as he always does?😮
8c per kWh still shits over your fuel bill hahahah
Luckily I watched your previous information on EV’s and never want to buy one. Never ever want to own a battery powered toy car.
@@rene9377 yeah the instant torque, reduced running cost, lack of tailpipe emissions and absence of engine noise is terrible. Oh wait...
@ yes all for those reasons especially the running cost Because the Ev is a piece of junk when the battery life is over. 100% disposal scrap once the battery dies. And the battery won’t last more than a few years with the range it once had. It’s a throwaway product no resale value.
@rene9377 part of the decreased resale value can probably be attributed to rapid technological advancements. Better batteries, more range and faster charging on newer cars will of course decrease the value of cars that have been on the road since several years.
@@rene9377 Yep I agree, the car will be worthless once the battery packs hits 1 millions kilometres
@@bargeonline I’m not stopping you from buying one. It’s a Free country to buy whatever battery operated junk you want.
I'm still waiting for a good reason to ditch gas. The EV government-industrial complex hasn't been able to give a good reason yet. And they've had years to come up with one.
You need to look it up eg climate change - CO2 reduction.
Kellyville and Baulkham Hills are McMansion central 😂
When a TRANSITION is mandated, not really a matter of choice.
Lower CO2 is mandated. So far car companies can only come up with EVs.
EV Cars are like VHS and BETA, and the EV will be like the BETAMAX 😂🤣. Another great video John, thanks.
Unlike BEV's, Betamax was actually considerably better then VHS, they just didn't have the same marketing as VHS, and Betamax was typically a bit more expensive. Betamax actually lasted longer than most folk think it did, as the underpinning technology in professional video production, as 'U-matic', a very good video format that technical support until as late as 2016. I used some U-matic gear back in the day, and it made anything recorded on vhs look like it'd been recorded on a potato.
@@seaeagles6025 Nah, EVs are the Blu-ray versus the ICE DVD.
@@Tekwyzardwasn't the problem Sony intellectual property?
@@xpusostomos That too, yeah, another poor marketing decision, regarding the very limited number of manufacturers of both VCR's and tapes to whom Sony licensed their IP. Apparently 'typical' consumers of the time also didn't care much about the better quality Betamax offered, it just didn't justify the higher cost, at a time when VCR's were deffo not the cheap disposable commodities that they went on to become.
@@Tekwyzard I think the other problem is you could fit a movie on a VHS, but not a beta
The question I always ask is why are we spending a Trillion dollars a year on War if we are all going to be driving EVs?
It is hard to understand why people drive EVs. The only reasons I can think of are:
1. Driveability. This is a no brainer especially for those that have good regenerative braking and One Pedal Driving
2. Handling is so much better because of the lower centre of gravity and often 50:50 weight distribution you get from dedicated EVs
3. Quietness
4. Servicing costs, but that is dependent on manufacturer
"They just suck"
Jeremy Clarkson
@@TS-yf2zf remind me what are the different cycles of a four-stroke combusting engine called? They "suck" as well, don't they?
The Novated lease deals instigated by government are only for some public service employees. This is unfair to the general public, but the way financiers rort the leases they are not that good anyway. Governments can never get anything right. As for people not wanting EV's; it has something to do with their promoting EV superhighways and them not working. Drive Brisbane to Townsville in a BYD and you are stuck overnight at Rockhampton. The only 50kW (Chargefox) charger is broken, along with its 22 kW charger. Tesla chargers don't work, and you have to stay at a motel and use a charger they say is 22kW but only runs at 7kW. The same brand is at Sarina and also lies about the charge rate. You couldn't charge at MT Larcom before Rocky because it is broken, then you find another broken at Marlborough so you have 418 kms between working chargers at Miriam Vale and Carmilla (one 50kW each). The QLD government talks it up, as does the RACQ but it is absolute crap. Rocky in the middle has been broken for well over 4 months. Nobody is pulling their finger out. I believe charger owners are not interested in fixing them.
Imagine if the Government took those billions of EV incentive dollars and spent them on renewable energy projects. It would be more effective in reducing carbon emissions, and would reduce our energy bills.
But the lobbyists aren’t from renewable energy companies they are from the FCAI and the EV council. Your comment makes no sense if there are no lobbyists from renewables installers and utility companies
ev subsidies are a pittance compared to oil corporate subsidies
The EV sales boom hasn't even begun.
It's like that line in the film Dante's peak, where they think the worst of the eruption is over, but it's that the mountain was only just clearing her throat and hasn't even begun to sing yet.
Same's happening with EV sales rn 😜
Hi John while your on electric vehicles
Have you seen the videos of the brand new 24 million euro firestation in Germany that burned to the ground after an battery electic firtruck caught fire while charging and the fact an oversight of forgetting to put smoke detectors in the new building causing all to be lost .
Yes - more net zero genius.
Well obviously if your fleet is free from highly flammable petroleum products why would you need smoke detectors? 😂
Have you seen all the electric buses in Spain that haven’t burned to the ground?.
EV fires per 1000 of cars on the road are x100 less than a internal combustion engine vehicle
@@Piecenotwar you're missing the point, an ICE fire is relatively controllable and able to be extinguished, an EV fire on the other hand is many times more volatile. Hear about the EV truck fire in the USA that closed a major road for about 16 hours while spewing deadly chemicals into the air and contaminating the surrounding soil / water?
@ Let’s talk about environmental damage.
Exxon Valdez oil spill
Deepwater Horizon
The Persian Gulf War Oil Spill
Amoco Cadiz
Atlantic Empress
Ixtoc
Combined Billions of gallons of crude oil spilled into the environment, and that’s just some of the oil spills not all of them.
I live in the Sydney Inner West Council area. We are the lucky recipients of approx 130 EV chargers in the next 12 months. Compare that to Blacktown Council, which is lucky enough to receive less than 10 chargers in the most populated council in NSW. Don’t you love public money being directed to wealthy residents. Given the enormous lack of on street parking here, it will also mean that many locals will lose their street parking space to Tesla owners.
I foresee mountains of junked EV’s years from now.
The BYD Shark 6 is $45K here in Mexico but $57,900 in Australia. That might have something to do with it... here in Mexic a LOT of Chinese vehicles are appearing, many of them electric.
And Jaguar have stopped making ICE cars....idiots!
We charged 4 cars and paid close to 3000$ in electrical bill last year. Show me a family running 4 diesel/ gasoline cars and run a house for 3000$ a year. You should pay attention and do some changes. You are wasting money if you are running a diesel or gasoline car.
If you can afford a house and 4 new EVs, then you can afford the fuel costs if they weren't EVs.
Literally every person I know that owns an EV either hates them, or is in the process of trying to get rid of them.
We sold ours and good riddance. It only took 7 months, and with a huge loss. The hassle is GONE
The big problem for full electric cars is the truth is starting to catch up with the hype…
A colleague of mine bought an EV last year, to take advantage of the FBT benefits.
Now he realises there is little demand for used EVs, so he’s unlikely to sell the car for enough to cover the balloon payment at the end of the lease.
Now all I hear from him is doom/gloom about how much he thinks he’ll owe when the lease finishes - hardly sounds like someone that is lining up to buy a second EV…
Well, modern engines age better than batteries. He should have known that.
But think of all the money he saved from not needing to refuel it using dirty petroleum based fuels.
@@sylviam6535 - when properly maintained. But this doesn't only apply to modern engines. It's always been the case. A properly serviced car will outlast one that hardly sees an oil change.
I replaced my 1992 Subaru when it was 19 years old with a 2006 Ford Falcon (5 years old). That Falcon has now been replaced with a 2023 Hyundai Venue, a small SUV style hatch/wagon with a conventional 1.6L engine driving a 6 speed auto via a torque converter. It suits my needs perfectly.
The key to all my cars longevity is properly following the manufacturers servicing regime.
EV's are suitable for some people. I would not throw shade at them because their choice isn't my choice. We are not all the same.
@@lunsmann - I generally agree, but also think that reliability went down during the 1970s and 1980s (although design creativity was great during that time). Also, some people believe in performing oil and other fluid changes far more frequently than the manufacturer recommends - I’ve never done that, but know people that do.
@@somat111 - When one factors in the cost of the vehicle at todays interest rates + the cost of electricity in Australia + the heavy depreciation, these vehicles are a complete money pit.
I got an e-scooter earlier this year. It's great. There's a path where I live nearly all the way to work. Do nearly 20km a day. Saved me a few tanks of fuel so far. BUT it's also shown me what the limitations of an EV would be, on a micro scale. Do not want.
Normalise buying EVs just because we like them 😁
Not everything is a political statement.
I have a major problem with my tax being used to sponsor personal vehicle purchase, the product either earns its place in the market or it fails. Let's remember passenger cars contribute so little to emissions that this is bullshit.
Thank goodness. Pity Porsche has tanked their Caymans and the next release will be whiney EVs - boring, boring, boring.
PS how does anyone tow a tonne or two with an EV and not damage it?
Range drops to very low distances when towing , not to mention how do you connect a charger to an EV with a caravan on the back ?
@@Leo555ZZZ Harruy's garage Macan drops to an 80 mile range when towing.
I read the E Transits doesn't come with a tow rating at all, as its range was as low as 30 miles with a fully loaded builder's trailer. Ford simply elected to not rate it for towing at all, to avoid the bad publicity and embarrassment that could ensue if they did.
to meet my transport needs i need a vehicle that can travel a 2200klm return trip with 4 x 5 minute refueling stops
Buy a Cessna?
you will own nothing, eat bugs and be happy.
So if we are at peak oil and fuel supplies have dwindled by 2040 then probs all cars ice or EV will mostly be gone. I won't be crying about the demise of a stupid solution to transporting a relatively small mass via a massive machine.
Today's cars track you. ICE or EV. Every thing you do. Every thing you say. Every where you go.
Is recorded and sent to a central database. You will need to pay monthly subscriptions forever to be able even to open the door. I wanted to get a new car until I realised my privacy is gone no matter what new car I get.
There are pros and cons to everything
Currently evs are expensive to a lot of the general public,
Charging infrastructure is a joke,
Battery tech needs to be seriously improved so we can reduce the weight of the car and increase the speed we charge it
Other than that the rest is just pure ignorance. Hydrocarbons for all its good grace is a finite resource. One day it will run out and all our precious petrol/diesel dinosaurs would occupy nothing but junkyards. The main reason evs haven’t caught on a lot is because it’s expensive. The more evs are there the more charging infrastructure would get better, the more research will go into improving the current tech. It’s a vicious cycle but an eventuality nonetheless
Car dealerships in Norway sold 18 diesel and 240 petrol cars and in September 2024.
And 12,495 EVs.
@@Essin62 but according to John and most of his viewers, your country must be heading towards certain doom!
Fun fact: Norway ≠ Australia
@@TheKnobCalledTone. Most of the arguments apply to any place though, eg "omg the grid will collapse if we all charge at the same time". Agreed though, the viability of today's EVs also depends on the distances driven
Norway's EV sales have had big subsidies from their government, paid for from their sovereign wealth fund that comes from nationalized oil sales. Hypocrites?
@@Martin-e1b9c what should they do with the oil money instead?
I find it incredibly tone deaf that the federal government has slapped on the ute tax right in the middle of the biggest cost of living crisis in living memory. Unintended consequences include car makers like Hyundai pulling diesels for hybrids for an eye watering $10K to $12K premium. What will all of this do... reduce Australia's emissions by a fraction of a percent. I'd much rather prioritise emissions reductions where we can have a bigger impact as long as it does not stuff up the economy. As for EVs, they are even more expensive to buy, insure, replace tyres for and not forget epic depreciation.
I see many commenters here watch too much Sky News.
watching any sky news is watching too much sky news
Have a look at the Misinformation Act. And you'll see why Murdoch is so against it --- being held account for peddling Bull$hit!! Lol
EV's exist to save the car industry, not the environment.
Well.... yes, I agree EV's make little sense as a stand alone proposition. But the government just approved v2x... so EV's just became a big home solar battery with a free second car thrown in for your local short trips.
If you (John) are advocating for home solar with battery storage as a worthwhile eco investment, then because an ev with a bidirectional charger does the same job only with more capacity, arguably it is a better investment as it can replace both your second car AND your home solar battery. And the car's battery will be maybe 4x bigger than your typical home solar battery, so will cover a lot more inclement weather or a much longer grid failure.
You can't both sell home solar batteries, AND pour scorn on those who buy batteries that happen to be purchased with the "portable" option added.
Ok stupid question, I've never done a novated lease, are you tied into purchasing the car at the end of the lease? I thought one of the advantages was being able to hand the car back if the resale was well under your agreed buy out figure?
I'm sure the imminent release of the new Tesla Model Y has hurt their sales this year, no matter how much they have dropped the price. It'll be interesting to see their sale figures for the first half of next year once the new model is released.
Lack of charging options is a significant problem in arsetrailerhere.
I like my ice it can sit in the garage for 3 weeks go to it and it’s still full and drive it 400 miles with the heater on as it’s cold in the uk and have no range problem
Can do the same with an EV tbh. My car sit for a week and loose 1% maybe. I don't own a Tesla that have phantom drain while parked. And you don't need 400 miles of range 99% of the time anyway.
I Live in Mosman and can vouch for what you say. Why can't they just purchase a German car like everyone else in Mosman.
Or Swedish, if you're down to your last tin of cat food.
@@AutoExpertJC Mate, even the au pair drives a Golf in Mosman.
It's a dry shallow hole that you are exploring down there AE. What will be the Wheels COTY (Aust only). The industry is agog with anticipation. Will it be an EV? Albo hopes so, Will take the Political Pressure off everything else I'd expect.
In 2024 the Kia EV9 is car of the year in Australia.
There is a video on youtube that states that having a HYBRID could mean more engine wear even though one would think that less engine running should mean the opposite, reason being that short runs could mean the engine never getting up to proper running temperature and therefore might mean premature wear.
Good point. Stop start doesn't do them much good either.
I've heard they won't go anywhere until they're up to optimal running temperature due to the issue you talked about.
Always follow the manufacturers service schedule to the letter. Any engine not properly maintained will wear out and fail earlier than a properly maintained one. This is NOT an issue unless you are one of those who never change the oil.
@@G-ra-ha-m Yes, my sons company car, a Subaru impreza has it, it seems to work ok, however as it operates through the computer and probably via a relay, then its just another thing to go wrong,my neighbours relatively new WRX died a few days ago in his driveway.
Look at Toyota Camry hybrid taxis with starship mileage on them to find that “in theory” and reality are different
My wife and I had an interesting and expensive experience with novated leasing of a Honda Crv a few years ago. It all seemed great with her work taking out the cash before she got it, we never missed it. Then our circumstances changed and we got a letter from the Commonwealth bank Hire Purchase ( remember that term) department telling us how much the fortune was that we owed them.
Yes the novated lease system is actually no different to the hire purchase agreements we feared but felt forced to sign up to when we got our first shitboxes. Another formal government fraud to manage in our lives. We live and learn. The tax benefits were nominal at best but the bill later was quite distressing. Never again.
Norway: Almost 100% of new car sales is electric.
Australia: Lot warmer, lot more sunshine, EV in combination with solar is a no-brainer.
You're right, no brain required, Norway is about the only govt who kept the promise to create the support infrastructure so that transition would actually work. USA Aussie and NZ are pathetic in the extreme and want to tax everything everyway, and still not fulfill the promises
Norway's EV sales have had big subsidies from their government, paid for from their sovereign wealth fund that comes from nationalized oil sales. Hypocrites?
@ No, doing the smart thing with the earned money.
I was in the outback in September, I never seen so much of nothing and a lot of sunshine.
5 km2 gives the same output as a average nuclear power plant……in combination with a big battery plant you already have you have energy for free.
Open your eyes and see the possibilities, it is a political choice, nothing else.
Guy on the radio recently returned from Europe was there for 3 months. He said hardly seen an EV on the streets or on Autobahns….surely our Government isn’t lying to us ??? ."…….again.
Is that Norway the massive oil and gas exporter?
My guess is these rural people are claiming the holiday house as main home
All Cults lie and manipulate, and take you the fool, to the cleaners.
@@davebarron5939 which cult are you referring to, my good man? The one with the electrons or the other one with the dino juice?
thanks John another great vid
Even if I was as wealthy as .... Musk, I'd still drive my 1992 diesel ute on chip oil. New vehicles are full of.... electrical shit.
I have a 2007 motorcycle with a carburettor. It’s beginning to look like a keeper
F that,i'll stick with my pristine 18yr old Aussie made 5.4 lt V8 ,knowing how good it is for the environment as opposed to the massively energy intensive and environmentally damaging Chemical BBQ's any day.
So if the Model Y is biggest selling car in the world AGAIN this year you will be walking back your claim that the EV sky is falling?
Apparently there is a new refresh coming soon so It will be the most sold car for sure. I am used to see trucks hauling Toyota, Mazda etc but lately all I see is Tesla and KIA vehicles. ICE car prices went up so much that I don't blame people for going the EV route. People living in buildings and rentals don't have the option to charge at home so this will be a problem until we reach 1000km per charge. All it takes is 10% increase in battery storage per year and this tribalism will be over in 5 years.
in 2023 there were 3 pickups and one SUV with higher sales. Add to that many manufacturers had multiple models in the top 25 selling vehicles with more total sales than Tesla and your claim looks rather weak. Tesla is NOT a top seller and that's with incentives. How many more Hondas would have sold if the government helped consumers pay for them? Tesla is a scam and Elon is a scam artist. Perhaps you'd claim that Tesla drove Stelantis to the brink of bankruptcy (it didn't, they did that themselves).
The model Why? What? Who?
Isn't it shocking that sales might go up on a group of vehicles that almost all governments are trying to force people to buy, by penalizing manufactures for making and selling anything else, by artificially taxing the alternative's so that they are more expensive, by making zones where you have to pay extra to drive if you don't have the "Government approved" vehicle, buy using taxpayers money to subsidize purchasing the "Government approved" vehicle, and by telling everyone that by a certain date it is the only type of vehicle they will let you buy.
I just can't understand why sales might go up.😮
I am not against EV's although owning one makes zero sense for me personally. I am retired, drive very little, cannot (by government code) put solar panels on my roof, electricity is somewhat expensive where I live, public charging is almost non existent where I drive, running the A/C in your vehicle is almost a requirement from April through October where I live, and I drive a 24 year old vehicle that I have owned since new that is in showroom condition and gets around 48mpg mixed use, and I perform ALL maintenance and repairs myself. So even with the Government's thumb on the scale it makes zero sense financially or environmentally for me to purchase an EV.
Wait? What? Who said the Tesla model Y is the biggest selling car in the world? Or ever? That is absolutely impossible. There certainly wasn't any such evidence or claim in this video.
I'm in Australia, big motoring market. Motor Trend used to bombard my feeds with ads, even emails, but after discovering the pay wall, I also found the copyright wall. Lucky it was a trial. Point being that their outreach was rubbish. Should have had a smart tv streaming channel.
Problem with YT and I still don't get this; unless the channel has defined a video list, videos play latest to first by default on autoplay. The complete opposite of how you watch a series. Mind torturingly stupid. There is no choice for basic database sort by tools.
Yes!!!
I drive a manual WRX but I don't understand the hate for EVs. Nobody is forcing anyone to buy one. Did you fall out with the novated lease company that you were spruiking? And what's with your commentary on the voice to parliament and your jab about transitioning? I think you're starting to show your true colours "dude".
Why would the government think MORE EVs is a good idea? ... they have been a DISASTER
@@pablorages1241 why's that?
@@christiandisch8147 No better for the environment, high prices, steep depreciation, increased insurance prices, less convenient, wasted public funding, short product life and more dangerous
@@pablorages1241
Couldn't be more wrong in each bit of your supporting argument. Maybe stop repeating tired arguments from EV deniers and actually look at, test drive or talk with EV owners. See what answers you come up with.
@pablorages1241 high price and deprecation I can agree with. Less convenient, I don't know (I charge at home and it's quite convenient). Wasted public funding is in the eye of the beholder. Hydrogen is something I feel is a waste of money, yet governments pour money into that too. More dangerous? Hmmm statistics say otherwise.
@@harowerks44 Na looking closely it appears he is very close to the money.
Remind me, wasn’t John actively prompting novated leases for EVs not so long ago ?
@9:30 And I want the freedom to not breathe in the toxic fumes of your fossil car :P Glad i also don't live in a place where dirty coal is burned to generate electricity on top of this.
Why are we subsidising the Chinese car manufacturers when we could spend the money in looking after our own hospitals, roads in an economic crisis. In the past we did that for our own auto industry which was great.
Reckon if Trump drill baby drills fuel prices will fall globally and another nail in the EV coffin.
Why would they lower prices, what's the point of losing money on the cracked wells and tar sands. They need a minimum price per barrel to break even.
@rattusfinkus Supply and demand.
@marklittle3551 yep too much supply means lower prices and lower profits
@@rattusfinkus I thought Governments might get desperate and increase the cost of ICE ownership but bit hard at present while they are trying to reduce inflation thankfully.
@marklittle3551 ICE costs will increase as production decreases, look at all the legacy auto manufacturers slowly going broke. EVs will keep getting cheaper as numbers increase and technology improves.
I am from the Gold Coast and it is full of Tesla's. I moved to a small country town west of the coast and I forgot they existed. My new town is filled with Dodge Ram v8's and Ford trucks. There is one charging station in town and about 20 petrol stations. Happy to keep my 6.0 Caprice!
Global EV sales keep increasing. ICE sales peaked in 2017
In the UK, almost 9/10 EV sales are to fleets and business, and the sole reason they lease them is for the tax benefits. Is that progress?
@tonyb3629 cheap second hand EVs when leases expire
Global EV sales are only increasing because of China ..in almost all other countries they are in decline , hence the slashing of prices being seen in most places.
@Leo555ZZZ China will ramp up exports so sales will keep increasing especially with the new models with improved charging and range
No . In 2050 there will be 2.9 Billion vehicles in total .
There will be approx. 33% MORE ICE cars on the roads of the world than there are now.
I do a school run a few days a week picking up the grand kids. One child goes to a big private school near Oatlands, Nth Parramatta, which I can't get my head around being a retired pensioner. Whilst waiting in the car park in my humble R53 Pathy, Had it 2 years now. ( the only Nissan That I can see) which I love by the way. Just thought I'd throw that in JC. I counted no less than 6 Tesla's in a row drive in followed by BM's, Benz's Audi's ect. I felt out of place.
Good on you Warren.
Sorry dude, EVs haven't even started. I, like many others are holding off until a suitable EV hits our shores at a reasonable price. There's some awesome EVs coming in 2025 look at the Zeekr 7X for example or the Riddara Horizon. And V2G will be the clincher but that's probably more like 2026. I'll check in with you clowns next year.
EV's have actually started and as soon as those for whom an EV is a viable option, have purchased one, we'll see EV sales tapering off.
EVs work for home owners with a garage or those who can charge at work. They work for no one else.
V2G will have a ruinous effect on the battery.
@marcg1686 false.
V2G does not ruin batteries. Not everyone who wants an EV has got one, I don't. As EVs reach price parity more people will realise that EVs are the cheapest option long term.
Show us the asking price, Don't care what comes out if most of us can't afford ANY new car.
@@rattusfinkus
The studies that have shown that V2G can be beneficial to battery life have compared an ideal V2G DoD with the hamfisted charging strategies practised by many drivers.
I generally don't discharge my battery below 30% and I don't charge to above 80% unless I intend to drive a somewhat loner distance soon after.
V2G at ambient temperatures of -5 to -10°C probably won't work and at high ambient temperatures it won't work either. There'll be a Goldilocks temperature range where it does work effectively.
EVs don't work if you can't charge at home, or at work. That applies to many car drivers around the world.
Stop the subsidies and lets see how they sell after that.
@@tim8deb we never had subsidies and still a lot of EVs on the road