The best way to judge any company is how they handle a genuine warranty claim, it's the service they provide when things go wrong that matters the most to me
Couldn’t they just have a fully charged spare battery in the trunk/booth … oh, my bad. It’s us people with our antic petrol cars that can bring some extra juice ….
When I looked for "Byd catches fire" I saw a story dated May 16, 2024. 10 of their Chinese showrooms have burned down since 2021. the story says "BYD Reportedly Sees 10th Showroom Fire Since 2021 As Store Burns Down In China" "BYD blames old wiring in the store's roof for the fire, but reports indicate that its showrooms catch fire pretty frequently"
I check the article and I think it use fake news as resource. It lists 10 fire incidents, but unable to find information for 1st - 9th on internet before 16 May 2024. For this kind incident, it should be spreadout when 5th happened instead of 10th. 😮 That's why I question and check.
Old wiring .. I'm sure the fuses on any Chinese circuit would be small to immediately cut power when overloaded, just like anywhere... But more there to save money.
My son was a service advisor for a dealer of these and a former British, now Chinese, brand. The yard was full of broken cars. Had angry people yelling at him, crying and all emotions in between. Most cars had been financed and could not be driven. The cars had engine and gearbox casting cracking or making noises, brake rotor warping after 60km. The touch screen went dead, wiring looms needed replacing. Imagine waiting for a touch screen where you could not adjust the radio, change the climate control etc. The crate engines were 3 to 4 months wait wiring looms were worse. The warranty was often denied initially for gear box, clutch and motor because dealer/manufacturer policy. (Not driving car properly!) One morning he phoned in, saying he had had enough and wasn't coming in again.
Anyone who contemplates buying any of these new brands to the market should be very careful should they need warranty work, spare parts availability, the ability for local mechanics to repair and the denials from some of these manufacturers.
A friend of my wife got a full EV one of those, it lasted less than 20 mins before shutting down completely (it was charged before it was handed over). She had to call us (we were close) and asked for a brick to chock the wheels while she waited for a tow as had to sit on the brake pedal as even the parking brake would not work (electric) and the car wanted to roll back into the road. No failsafe for E-brake in the event of complete power failure. Safety 3rd!
I read the article. The loss of driving logs and dashcam footage on the SD card - that is an even bigger reason to avoid this company. Bianca Censori - WOW.
yep, and we're talking about society built solely upon glorifying a hierarchical bureacratic system/society, and very technocratic, but the key: amoral. Never ever buy something big from a clearly plainly entirely a-moral entity. (yes, most western corp's are quite amoral, but they do a lot better than the chinese gvt) This issue is why today's politics wrt decoupling from China, is fascinating
1:01 Burn Your Dreams ⭐⭐⭐ 1:56 Began Yo' Dream ⭐ 2:02 Burn Your Driveway ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 2:21 Begin Yo' Delusion ⭐⭐⭐ 6:05 Betray Your Drivers ⭐⭐⭐ 6:32 Bone Your Delight ⭐⭐ 8:59 Burn Your Driveway ⭐⭐⭐ (deducting one ⭐ for repetition) 9:56 Burn Your Decency ⭐⭐ 10:47 Bully Your Drivers ⭐⭐⭐ 11:39 Bury Your Driver ⭐⭐ 12:13 Bone Your Delight ⭐ (deducting one ⭐ for repetition) 15:21 Boost Your Damage ⭐⭐ 15:31 Bend Your Decency ⭐⭐ 18:59 Boost Your Damage ⭐ (deducting one ⭐ for repetition) Stirling effort, old chap.
First time I discovered BYD stood for build your dreams when i saw it written under the logo, I couldn't believe it was that cheesy, I genuinely thought someone had stuck the wording on for a laugh
It's not about building YOUR dreams, it's about building the dreams of the people who made the vehicle. They are getting filthy rich selling EV's to Australia.
This is business as usual in China. China's business practices are exported along with its vehichles. If your Chinese EV burns up in your driveway 1) you plugged it in wrong 2) you drove it in the rain or 3) your electricity is of low quality.
To be honest, those practices were long established in the so-called western markets, much before they were overflowed with the finest quality Chinesium.
I'm interested how you found this information. I have done quite a bit of business over many years with Chinese companies in the large project engineering field, and found them to be professional and responsive, and suppliers of good quality equipment. I therefore wonder what has led you to make your claim.
Having family and friends in China with senior jobs, consultancies et al and with degrees and postgraduate qualifications, I am in a very good position to understand the REAL quality of Chinese cars as opposed to the PURPORTED quality. Chinese cost cutting includes brake rotors 70% of the thickness of say Japanese brands; thinner coats of paint than say Toyota, Kia et al, lack of preparation to avoid premature rusting; smaller underbody welds; panel fit etc etc etc. So go ahead and say my Chinese car is as good as any Japanese, Korean, German car et al and cost a lot less but please be aware that you are having a very big lend of yourself!
Thanks for the insights! I test drove some Wuling, MG, Neta, BYD & Chery EV models & came away impressed what many of these new Chinese car companies were able to achieve in a decade or so, but ,they were still not yet at the level of Japanese, or even Korean, carmakers (generally speaking); in some cases, Korean quality is already at par or exceed the Japanese makes (unlike when they 1st came to market in the 80's). I also read about & watched videos on some odd break-downs in the media (on a few models, like rear axle breaking on a Chery model in Malaysia due partially to rust, which led to replacement recalls), & your examples really helped explain the probably root causes!
@@randomidiot8142 Tofu is commonly eaten in China, Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Indonesia & many other countries, so what's your point? FYI, many car manufacturers (including some legacy ones) produce some of their models from China & export them worldwide. You should also know that Japanese & South Korean carmakers, similar to Chinese carmakers in the beginning, introduced "subpar" products during their early years but steadily improved & it can be expected Chinese carmakers will follow the same trajectory, especially as some European legacy automakers are already partially or wholly owned by some Chinese automaker(s).
@@satokage9354 You must be the only person on TH-cam who hasnt heard how the term Tofu Dreg Construction as used to describe the poor quality building practices in China. China has stolen so much IP and had foreign companies to copy for decades now and still hasnt ramped up quality anything like Japan or Korea. Its not in their nature to let you get an extra cents worth of quality in anything they sell you.
I had a battery failure in my Land Cruiser central locking remote control can’t believe it only lasted 20years, went to Toyota spare parts they put a new battery in on the house.. I love Toyota.
Great video!! I can recall when I was homeless and faced many things in life until $50,000 biweekly began rolling in and my life went from a homeless nobody to a different person with good things to offer!!!!
A lot of folks are still hoping for stimulus and salary to survive which won't do much!!! without no passive investments. I guess a few know about integrating into the micro economy to help substitute FIAT or usdt for a more tangible exchange Experience, it more like capitalization with about 43.307% profits/ ROI weekly though.. ps.. Caroline Maria Bravo, got me covered thanks.
I've stated it all, the most important thing is to have enough starting capital and to have a professional expert broker to help you with your investment so that you don't make any losses.
Ev's will prove to be one of the greatest failings of this era- the carbon footprint, the weight, the damage they cause in an accident because of the weight and the disposability of the cars after 10 years not to mention the environmental nightmare of disposing of exhausted batteries... way to go!!!!!!! Keep up the sterling work Mr C
@@mohammadrashid5077 . So cordless tools will be going back to corded, as will mobile phones be replaced by wall phones & people will prefer to buy petrol from oil tycoons instead of their rooftop solar. Your idea is laughable.
Love these comedy editions John, the EV fanboys and cult members will never learn till their dreams are up in (toxic) EV smoke, Ev is a comedy that just keeps giving.
I love my BYD Atto 3. What a car. Enough power, luxury, high tech and that a a ridiculous affordable price. And than not to mention running costs. Will never go back to ice cars
Another outstanding diatribe? Soliloquy? All the brilliant terms created for the BYD acronym had me in stitches in addition to all the other references and analogies. I'm 62 years old and caught them all, lol. Very well done, my friend.
There is no mention of the Dealer, who obviously ducked for cover, referring the claim back to BYD. I am sure this is not an isolated case of car companies throwing customers under the bus. if you are serious about buying a new car, the service and reliability aspect has to be a major consideration. While many CHINESE models seem to attract buyers due to their very competitive price and wealth of gizmos, the risk you take with vehicles which are recently introduced to the market is cause for reflection in view of the spineless ACCC. Chinese vehicles are immensely popular for those seeking what appears to be a bargain vehicle but you have to wonder how many corners were cut to achieve such prices. In the next few years the resale value and possible reliability issues will become worrying.
The Chinese are extremely good at finding ways to cut corners, make things out of fake materials ( tofu dreg materials) and to totally lie about their products. Also, every Chinese EV manufacturer is majorly supported by the Chinese government. Some companies are losing tens of thousands of dollars on each car sold. Just let that sink in for a minute and then ask yourself why would the government support them so much and why are they dumping thousands of EV cars in Europe and around the world. Hint: it’s not because they’re nice people and have your benefit at heart. STOP buying Made in China!
That's why I have a 20-year-old petrol sucker. I just can't stand the total control of me in a new car. I simply love driving. Thanks for great videos.
Your BYD acronyms made me cry laughing. I just wish I could have liked the video more than once! The Big Yellow Dog really went for the Cool's Below Your Dick with treating them as a customer.
A major reason EVs even exist is because they represent a new business model. The more efficient they get the more the price of energy will be raised to guarantee profits. The big money is gonna game the shit out of the "energy transformation". Putting it simply, profits will be maintained by fees, taxes, and increasing the cost of ever smaller amounts of energy. It will only be a few years until having a car follows the "software as a service" (SSAS) model and a subscription to drive your computer with wheels is required so that profits can be locked in. No corporation cares about the air you breathe.
After watching the video on the Shark, it was a definite maybe. I remember the ending of the video had the "known unknowns" about BYD, including service. Glad to see that unknown is now known before I shelled out the money.
Slightly off this topic but imagine living in a block of flats in which one of your neighbors parks their EV in the car park underneath. So even if you do not own an EV yourself, you are in constant danger of being caught at home if their EV decides to instantly self immolate for fun and giggles. Who is going to pay for damages? And who would be held culpable for any loss of life that might have taken place?
@Herkimer_Snerdyou must be stupid if you think an EV isn't dangerous in a confined space, the battery is an oxidizer and should never be under a building or a tunnel. They must be in the open
@Herkimer_Snerd But you can put out most ICE fires with a basic extinguisher while the EV needs specialised kit before it starts softening steel with the fire..
BYD has this "Blade" battery technology that supposedly does not explode or go into thermal runaway when damaged. They have a video showing a puncture test where they drive a nail through the cell and it does nothing. This was supposed to be the selling feature of the EV conversion kits i worked with. They claimed a 25 - 30 year lifespan, the cells withstand temperatures up to 500C etc. I noticed right away the poor discharge current, maybe a 1.5 C rating if you are lucky. They are also very heavy. I wonder now if that puncture test was actually real and they are as safe as they claim...
It’s terrifying just how prolific Chineseium cars are throughout Canberrian public sector executives… all doing teams calls within their state approved spy vehicles
It's amazing how proficient china has become at polishing turds on mass , for idiots the whole world over that believe form comes before function , they probably get a kick out of tricking us into thinking something is quality , I'm sure the tools they use to fix the machines in their factories are fit for purpose , they are just meeting the market
I had a Samsung Galaxy S21+ mobile phone that completely failed two weeks prior to the 12-month warranty running out. Considering that it cost $1400 I thought thought even 12 months was a bit 'lean'. When I returned it to the store, I was initially informed about "store policy," at which point I let them know that we weren't talking the same language. I did agree for a period of 'assessment', but after six weeks and unfulfilled promises of contact, I returned to say that if this continued, I wouldn't be anyone's sweetheart for very long. I received a brand new Galaxy S24 the following day.
I live just outside Yass near Canberra and commute daily. Mate of mine was convinced that it was a good idea to get one of these for the daily into Canberra. He drilled a big male roo outside Murrumbateman. Huge damage but drivable. He was told 5 months wait for parts. Oh and by the way don’t drive it in the rain because it may catch fire 🔥. Back to his 2005 BA Ute and never been happier.
Isn't it amazing how *none* of the Atto 3 / Seal / Sea Lion / Dolphin reviews online ever consider issues such as the availability of spare parts? I have seen some that mention concerns about the stated limitations of the warranty... but even here most 'reviewers' sweep those concerns under the carpet.
Great point, I’d love to see some predictions here. With some of the early EV’s now at the 8 year mark - who’s buying them, esp those with 100k kms + on the clock and no options for battery upgrades. 8 years and these cars are scrap making them less environmental overall.
Canberra is freezing at times... A Peugeot designed for Europe buckets out sensational heat , a ev in canberra would would be insane, with the power used to heat the cabin
Canberra is cold in winter by Australian standards but it's way warmer than North America and Europe. They seem to manage mostly okay with their EVs. They occasionally have winter storms that cause problems for most cars. I live in Canberra so I know what it's like. It was 15 deg C today, which isn't that cold. I think it was about -2C this morning, which is also not that cold.
@@simoncrooke1644 I moved there in 1996, and left after COVID, and rode my bike everywhere.. Canberra I do miss, but it can get cold for someone who grew up in Darwin.
Exactly, they are just as destructive as ICE. The real solution is mixed neighborhoods with stores in walking distance and good public transport like trains and busses.
Unless BYD were refusing to replace the battery, this seems like a beatup. Did I miss something? The idea of full refunds under warranty is practically unheard of in almost any retail experience. This failure sounds unfortunate but not unusual that a car broke down under warranty.
No I am Australian. and that's how it works in Australia. They would need to not be offered a repair or that repair to be massively unsatisfactory like for example having to wait a very long time for the repair for it not to be deemed as satisfactory warranty. Just like needing the motor or transmission replaced. Try any car dealership
Yeah I don't get it how many news article you hear about petrol car not getting refund under warranty for blown engine, i see almost all getting repaired
Still happy to use a piece of machinery that mixes gasoline with air, prior to the intake valves, ingests the mixture and compresses it to 10 atmospheres in a rigid confined space, sets fire to it and uses the expansion of the gaseous mixture from the resultant controlled conflagration to push on a crank and propel me towards my intended destination. I mean, actual forums exist around the battery and other issues with this product from said manufacturer. "Ownership considerations", where did those get forgotten, or dare I say neglected?
@@jetli740 More like 200, it's a 1.4 Fiesta. Can't do much less than that I am afraid. I live in a third world country, a hybrid would be the closest thing to reducing pollution here. Hybrids do about 160 grams CO2 per mile, a plug in hybrid does 40 grams per mile. Also, my car budget is $5000. So we do what's within our means.
@@Uncle-Duncan-Shack. Wow what country? Hopefully you'll be able to bypass hybrids & get an EV. EVs are truly brilliant. This show is a comedy, not a documentary.
John, it will be interest to know what other EV makers do with battery failure on their car. Knowing the fact that battery failure is not isolate to BYD, Tesla for example their model Y has 135 cases of battery failure that represent around 7% of that model line up.
BYD has Warren Buffett as a shareholder. He is looking at buying Dodge from Stellantis to give them a backdoor into USA. Electric Jesus also looking at Dodge to spend his carbon credits building V8 hemis
I think you'll find that Buffett has sold out. On record that he has at least reduced his holdings to the point where I don't think it's reported anymore how much he has in BYD
@@martinavery3979 that is correct. Berkshire Hathaway now own less than 6% in Bury Your Driver stock so no doubt he will continue to sell down until zero %.
Yeah let’s take one isolated incident and make it a bigger thing than it is. I bought a new Skoda 3yrs ago and the head gadget blew after 9mths but you don’t see me going to the media about it.
@@mrflibble1985 "BTW I had to pay out of pocket for it" Either you're a fool for doing so within the time that it should have been covered under warranty, or the fault was put down to something you did. People that are soft on sticking to the consumer rights given them are a good part of the reason dodgy dealers try and shaft so many others. They get away with it and try it on with others.
@@erroneouscodeYeah, it sounds like a self-inflicted wound. That's a completely different issue. He wouldn't have had to pay if it was a genuine manufacturing fault.
X-base user, a public relations ambassador for Hyundai-Kia electric vehicles who is active in the automobile engineering master's and doctorate group on the Korean IT community and Clien community site, says that you should never buy Chinese electric cars... Please keep this in mind
Even when I don't agree with John (and I've not watched the whole video yet) his BYD renaming ('Burn your Dreams' and 'Burn Your Driveway') are so funny I had to stop watching and make this comment. The man has a style of his own and a wit worth your time :)
I know quite a few people with these BYD vehicles and own one myself. First time I have heard of a traction battery issue. Ours is now two years old and has so far had no measurable degradation. We did have a charge controller that wouldnt allow full rate charging. After determining it didnt present a safety issue, BYD ordered a replacement controller. When it arrived it was replaced under warranty. They kept the car three days just to make sure all was OK (it was the first one they had replaced). We were given a replacement vehicle while ours was away. Three months on it runs like clockwork. No problem at all. Personally I have had much worse service from Honda who only offered a clapped out Toyota Yaris for the three months it took to get a replacement Civic hybrid gearbox from Tokyo.
I wonder if this story would have hit mainstream media (and JC's radar) IF the car was ,say Toyota RAV4 which had blown its engine, and Toyota had replaced the engine free of charge and provided a loan vehicle while they were performing the engine transplant?
Agree and also suffering from the UK heatwave here in Yorkshire where I am still watering my plants with 2 full water butts after the wettest May on record. Oh and the temp is 16c just now rising to a mind blowing 22c later. It's called summer !!!!
… I did wonder about whether this would "dampen" your prior enthusiasm for a work-horse with the aforementioned marque. I would appear to be evaporating rather sprightly.
The BYD's are distributed by an Australian company called EVDirect. No idea what warranty is like in other countries where you buy direct from BYD but here you are dealing with a small importer not BYD itself. My sisters ATTO3 had an issue with the 12volt battery which stopped the car working (18 months old) and she had to source a new one herself. Apparently, it's a very common problem. She is an EV evangelist and keeps nagging me to buy an EV but the more I look at it the more convinced I am that it's not a good choice.
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Plus no micro plastic generation
Ev's are like a Ford Pinto from all sides and not just the rear! Chinese batteries are unsafe
Just youtube it
Bore Your Driver
Love the way you put things JC
Mate I dip my lid to you. How many interpretations of BYD can you come up with in a 20 min video? Bloody hilarious.
I did think about it for two minutes before rolling...
B ring
Y our
D umb pwrease 😑
I had to laugh at each, cannot pick a favourite too many lol
"G'day Sir, like to buy one of our EVs?"
"Bollocks, you drongos"
@@brendanpells912 👍👍
The best way to judge any company is how they handle a genuine warranty claim, it's the service they provide when things go wrong that matters the most to me
"Bring your defibrillator", you missed that one and thanks for this a great channel.
That's gold.
Couldn’t they just have a fully charged spare battery in the trunk/booth … oh, my bad. It’s us people with our antic petrol cars that can bring some extra juice ….
"Burn Your Decency" was the one that got me, John you magnificent bastard! 😂❤
Yes.. heard that also... 😂❤
We need to get that popular
Source ,m proof ?.
The takedown of the BYD acronym is simply hilarious! Great job, as always, John.
When I looked for "Byd catches fire" I saw a story dated May 16, 2024. 10 of their Chinese showrooms have burned down since 2021.
the story says "BYD Reportedly Sees 10th Showroom Fire Since 2021 As Store Burns Down In China"
"BYD blames old wiring in the store's roof for the fire, but reports indicate that its showrooms catch fire pretty frequently"
I check the article and I think it use fake news as resource.
It lists 10 fire incidents, but unable to find information for 1st - 9th on internet before 16 May 2024.
For this kind incident, it should be spreadout when 5th happened instead of 10th. 😮 That's why I question and check.
A fire sale?
Old wiring .. I'm sure the fuses on any Chinese circuit would be small to immediately cut power when overloaded, just like anywhere... But more there to save money.
Burn Your Dealership?
Insurance scam?
My son was a service advisor for a dealer of these and a former British, now Chinese, brand. The yard was full of broken cars. Had angry people yelling at him, crying and all emotions in between. Most cars had been financed and could not be driven. The cars had engine and gearbox casting cracking or making noises, brake rotor warping after 60km. The touch screen went dead, wiring looms needed replacing. Imagine waiting for a touch screen where you could not adjust the radio, change the climate control etc. The crate engines were 3 to 4 months wait wiring looms were worse. The warranty was often denied initially for gear box, clutch and motor because dealer/manufacturer policy. (Not driving car properly!)
One morning he phoned in, saying he had had enough and wasn't coming in again.
Anyone who contemplates buying any of these new brands to the market should be very careful should they need warranty work, spare parts availability, the ability for local mechanics to repair and the denials from some of these manufacturers.
MG - My Goodness.
A friend of my wife got a full EV one of those, it lasted less than 20 mins before shutting down completely (it was charged before it was handed over). She had to call us (we were close) and asked for a brick to chock the wheels while she waited for a tow as had to sit on the brake pedal as even the parking brake would not work (electric) and the car wanted to roll back into the road. No failsafe for E-brake in the event of complete power failure. Safety 3rd!
And this is why Morris Garages is now know as Mostly Garbage.
The joys of buying Chinese garbage
The Cools should be thankful that they didn't become the Cooks.
Or the cooked
They did. The moment they so enthusiastically decided to sign the purchase papers at the Bring Your Dollars & Buy Your Delusion dealer.
@@blairboganhowe3563 or the Charcoals?
Good one!
Or Ghouls.
I read the article. The loss of driving logs and dashcam footage on the SD card - that is an even bigger reason to avoid this company. Bianca Censori - WOW.
yep, and we're talking about society built solely upon glorifying a hierarchical bureacratic system/society, and very technocratic, but the key: amoral. Never ever buy something big from a clearly plainly entirely a-moral entity. (yes, most western corp's are quite amoral, but they do a lot better than the chinese gvt) This issue is why today's politics wrt decoupling from China, is fascinating
BYD the acronym that just keeps on giving.
1:01 Burn Your Dreams ⭐⭐⭐
1:56 Began Yo' Dream ⭐
2:02 Burn Your Driveway ⭐⭐⭐⭐
2:21 Begin Yo' Delusion ⭐⭐⭐
6:05 Betray Your Drivers ⭐⭐⭐
6:32 Bone Your Delight ⭐⭐
8:59 Burn Your Driveway ⭐⭐⭐ (deducting one ⭐ for repetition)
9:56 Burn Your Decency ⭐⭐
10:47 Bully Your Drivers ⭐⭐⭐
11:39 Bury Your Driver ⭐⭐
12:13 Bone Your Delight ⭐ (deducting one ⭐ for repetition)
15:21 Boost Your Damage ⭐⭐
15:31 Bend Your Decency ⭐⭐
18:59 Boost Your Damage ⭐ (deducting one ⭐ for repetition)
Stirling effort, old chap.
Miss the chance for "Buy Your Death"
@@leobuana7430 Soon it'll be "Burn Your Dwelling".
You must work for the government, too much time on your hands. 😊😊
You missed Bringing You Disaster
@@marekklimczyk4042 When the first one popped out, I heard my calling!
Hell hath no fury like a greenie scorned. It was a bold strategy to turn a brand evangelist into an antagonist. Let’s see how that works out for them.
First time I discovered BYD stood for build your dreams when i saw it written under the logo, I couldn't believe it was that cheesy, I genuinely thought someone had stuck the wording on for a laugh
It's the Chinese dude. Even the continental Europeans have a better sense of cringe than them
The first time I saw it I thought, Some people have very different dreams than me.
Same
yep. And interestingly the brands of chinese kitchen small appliances sold on Amaazon in the U.S. are quite curious.
It's not about building YOUR dreams, it's about building the dreams of the people who made the vehicle. They are getting filthy rich selling EV's to Australia.
This is business as usual in China. China's business practices are exported along with its vehichles. If your Chinese EV burns up in your driveway 1) you plugged it in wrong 2) you drove it in the rain or 3) your electricity is of low quality.
Ha Ha Ha 🤣🤣🤣
To be honest, those practices were long established in the so-called western markets, much before they were overflowed with the finest quality Chinesium.
Yeah, your electrons provided by your solar panels made in China not good for the car. Not compatible and can cause fire.
Transparently obvious lies to one's face are just another form of FU in certain ancient cultures.
I'm interested how you found this information. I have done quite a bit of business over many years with Chinese companies in the large project engineering field, and found them to be professional and responsive, and suppliers of good quality equipment. I therefore wonder what has led you to make your claim.
If this turns you off buying a new EV, imagine the cohones it would take to buy a used one.
Dont generalise its only this company with the problem th-cam.com/video/qKa8mVOe5so/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=serpentza
It's turned me off buying a BYD, because of the shit customer support. Same as why I wouldn't buy a Ford or a Jeep.
You don't need cohones, just nothing in your dome.
@@randomidiot8142 yeah but, IF the price is reeeeally ruuuuuly cheap, there might be a good risk/benefit ration a smart person might bite at.
@@18_rabbit How cheap would it have to be when it burns?
Having family and friends in China with senior jobs, consultancies et al and with degrees and postgraduate qualifications, I am in a very good position to understand the REAL quality of Chinese cars as opposed to the PURPORTED quality.
Chinese cost cutting includes brake rotors 70% of the thickness of say Japanese brands; thinner coats of paint than say Toyota, Kia et al, lack of preparation to avoid premature rusting; smaller underbody welds; panel fit etc etc etc.
So go ahead and say my Chinese car is as good as any Japanese, Korean, German car et al and cost a lot less but please be aware that you are having a very big lend of yourself!
Thanks for the insights!
I test drove some Wuling, MG, Neta, BYD & Chery EV models & came away impressed what many of these new Chinese car companies were able to achieve in a decade or so, but ,they were still not yet at the level of Japanese, or even Korean, carmakers (generally speaking); in some cases, Korean quality is already at par or exceed the Japanese makes (unlike when they 1st came to market in the 80's).
I also read about & watched videos on some odd break-downs in the media (on a few models, like rear axle breaking on a Chery model in Malaysia due partially to rust, which led to replacement recalls), & your examples really helped explain the probably root causes!
It's like tofu dregs, but tofu drives.
We had a Great Wall for a while. Terrible car. Terrible service. I have a cfmoto motorbike and it’s excellent
@@randomidiot8142 Tofu is commonly eaten in China, Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Indonesia & many other countries, so what's your point?
FYI, many car manufacturers (including some legacy ones) produce some of their models from China & export them worldwide. You should also know that Japanese & South Korean carmakers, similar to Chinese carmakers in the beginning, introduced "subpar" products during their early years but steadily improved & it can be expected Chinese carmakers will follow the same trajectory, especially as some European legacy automakers are already partially or wholly owned by some Chinese automaker(s).
@@satokage9354 You must be the only person on TH-cam who hasnt heard how the term Tofu Dreg Construction as used to describe the poor quality building practices in China. China has stolen so much IP and had foreign companies to copy for decades now and still hasnt ramped up quality anything like Japan or Korea. Its not in their nature to let you get an extra cents worth of quality in anything they sell you.
Thanks John for this informative video. Keep up the great news that us viewers get and enjoy.
I had a battery failure in my
Land Cruiser central locking remote control can’t believe it only lasted 20years, went to Toyota spare parts they put a new battery in on the house.. I love Toyota.
Oh what a feeling!
👍
My 2005 Camry V6 had 300,000km and running perfectly when I sold it and bought a 2020 Camry that will last until I retire and beyond. No thanks BYD.
Absolutely loved the reference to the Monty Python Parrot Sketch 😂 and the BYD names are awesome 😅
To be brutally honest, I never GOT the parrot sketch until today. I love JC. The real one.
Laughed most of the way through this. How many relevant words can you get to fit BYD!!!
'Bone Your Delight' - my particular favourite.
Oh, Boy, this is going to get good. I work with a bunch of EV lovers and I can't wait to share this one lunch tomorrow.
To be fair, the problem isn't that they bought an electric car, rather that they bought a Chinese car.
The boss of BYD once said it stood for “Bring Your Dollars’
No its "Burn Your Dollars" because that's what you might as well do with your money when you buy this Chinese garbage.
More like Blow your dollars😅
@@fredjashar9586prove it
Funnily enough, I did find exceptional quality and service when I went down to my local BYD showroom. There was a Lexus dealer next door.
Yeah all to get you to buy one
Great video!! I can recall when I was homeless and faced many things in life until $50,000 biweekly began rolling in and my life went from a homeless nobody to a different person with good things to offer!!!!
That is lovely if i may ask, how did you come up with earning so much as you claim biweekly?
It's Caroline Maria Bravo doing, she changed my life. A BROKER- like her is what you need
A lot of folks are still hoping for stimulus and salary to survive which won't do much!!! without no passive investments. I guess a few know about integrating into the micro economy to help substitute FIAT or usdt for a more tangible exchange Experience, it more like capitalization with about 43.307% profits/ ROI weekly though.. ps.. Caroline Maria Bravo, got me covered thanks.
@@RockerseI would really like to know how this actually works.
I've stated it all, the most important thing is to have enough starting capital and to have a professional expert broker to help you with your investment so that you don't make any losses.
i have loved your content for a while, having you paraphrase Monty Python, nails it. Even the dead parrot is laughing.
Ev's will prove to be one of the greatest failings of this era- the carbon footprint, the weight, the damage they cause in an accident because of the weight and the disposability of the cars after 10 years not to mention the environmental nightmare of disposing of exhausted batteries... way to go!!!!!!! Keep up the sterling work Mr C
Unlikely
@@guringaicope harder 😂
No, they won't. ICE cars are on borrowed time. Just watch.
Get Bowen and Ambrosario to pay for it with their personal assets. Amongst others.
@@mohammadrashid5077 . So cordless tools will be going back to corded, as will mobile phones be replaced by wall phones & people will prefer to buy petrol from oil tycoons instead of their rooftop solar.
Your idea is laughable.
After a thorough Manscape session, wearing Mrs West’s incredible Parisian dinner outfit would be a piece of cake for you
Love these comedy editions John, the EV fanboys and cult members will never learn till their dreams are up in (toxic) EV smoke, Ev is a comedy that just keeps giving.
This is more about BYD's shit customer support
@@Dan4096 Wrong, BYD actually not providing customer services, only the BYD dealerships are.
I love your collection of translations of B.Y.D. abbreviation.
I love my BYD Atto 3. What a car. Enough power, luxury, high tech and that a a ridiculous affordable price. And than not to mention running costs. Will never go back to ice cars
Good luck, you'll need it.
I have one and know three or four other owners. We all agree they are a great vehicle.
Atto 3 best car that I've owned and I have owned plenty...this guy is talking cock !!!
Early days yet.........
You might have to if you have the Mr Cool experience
Another outstanding diatribe? Soliloquy? All the brilliant terms created for the BYD acronym had me in stitches in addition to all the other references and analogies. I'm 62 years old and caught them all, lol. Very well done, my friend.
Did ya, though? ALL of them....?
Having been employed at a major auto manufacturer a can confidently state there is no such thing as an isolated incident. There will be more of them.
A must see video for all BYD owners and anyone thinking of buying one,
I have been trying for ages to what to rearrange the “ Build Your Dreams “logo into something worthy of… now I know many thanks John
Bury you dog, dude.
Your phrases you used for BYD excellent
I was going to ask about your thoughts on buying the Ute. Wonder how many more people will reconsider?
Thanks for this John. Very interesting how BYD treats their customers when things don't go to plan...😮💨
There is no mention of the Dealer, who obviously ducked for cover, referring the claim back to BYD. I am sure this is not an isolated case of car companies throwing customers under the bus. if you are serious about buying a new car, the service and reliability aspect has to be a major consideration. While many CHINESE models seem to attract buyers due to their very competitive price and wealth of gizmos, the risk you take with vehicles which are recently introduced to the market is cause for reflection in view of the spineless ACCC. Chinese vehicles are immensely popular for those seeking what appears to be a bargain vehicle but you have to wonder how many corners were cut to achieve such prices. In the next few years the resale value and possible reliability issues will become worrying.
The Chinese are extremely good at finding ways to cut corners, make things out of fake materials ( tofu dreg materials) and to totally lie about their products.
Also, every Chinese EV manufacturer is majorly supported by the Chinese government. Some companies are losing tens of thousands of dollars on each car sold. Just let that sink in for a minute and then ask yourself why would the government support them so much and why are they dumping thousands of EV cars in Europe and around the world. Hint: it’s not because they’re nice people and have your benefit at heart. STOP buying Made in China!
Bloody hilarious video John! However also looking forward to seeing the statistics other car manufacturers handled full refund.
this was so so funny, I luv this guy he's such on the ball & a real wordsmith
That's why I have a 20-year-old petrol sucker. I just can't stand the total control of me in a new car. I simply love driving. Thanks for great videos.
Your BYD acronyms made me cry laughing. I just wish I could have liked the video more than once!
The Big Yellow Dog really went for the Cool's Below Your Dick with treating them as a customer.
Frank Chung is a very good journo, good onya Frank !
A major reason EVs even exist is because they represent a new business model. The more efficient they get the more the price of energy will be raised to guarantee profits. The big money is gonna game the shit out of the "energy transformation". Putting it simply, profits will be maintained by fees, taxes, and increasing the cost of ever smaller amounts of energy. It will only be a few years until having a car follows the "software as a service" (SSAS) model and a subscription to drive your computer with wheels is required so that profits can be locked in. No corporation cares about the air you breathe.
Lucky I still drive my 6 year old Mustang GT, manual transmission, love it. Got Borla exhaust as well
I love my 8 yo Mustang GT. Just such a fun car.
So you are saying they will "Bend You Dover"?
The number of different ‘translations’ for BYD in this video is surely top notch.
After watching the video on the Shark, it was a definite maybe. I remember the ending of the video had the "known unknowns" about BYD, including service. Glad to see that unknown is now known before I shelled out the money.
Brilliant video JC 👏👏, you bring the facts, explanation and wrapped up with savage sarcastic comedy.
Love your channel “Dude”
Slightly off this topic but imagine living in a block of flats in which one of your neighbors parks their EV in the car park underneath. So even if you do not own an EV yourself, you are in constant danger of being caught at home if their EV decides to instantly self immolate for fun and giggles. Who is going to pay for damages? And who would be held culpable for any loss of life that might have taken place?
@Herkimer_Snerdyou must be stupid if you think an EV isn't dangerous in a confined space, the battery is an oxidizer and should never be under a building or a tunnel. They must be in the open
@Herkimer_Snerd But you can put out most ICE fires with a basic extinguisher while the EV needs specialised kit before it starts softening steel with the fire..
@@mikedjames you bit outdated on EV battery. base on your logic CN city would be on fire, 30% of their car now is EV
@jetli740 when they EV do catch fire it is more serious, even if its a smaller percentage. China has enough for it to be a danger.
@@mikedjames battery tech already move on
BYD has this "Blade" battery technology that supposedly does not explode or go into thermal runaway when damaged. They have a video showing a puncture test where they drive a nail through the cell and it does nothing. This was supposed to be the selling feature of the EV conversion kits i worked with. They claimed a 25 - 30 year lifespan, the cells withstand temperatures up to 500C etc. I noticed right away the poor discharge current, maybe a 1.5 C rating if you are lucky. They are also very heavy. I wonder now if that puncture test was actually real and they are as safe as they claim...
It’s terrifying just how prolific Chineseium cars are throughout Canberrian public sector executives… all doing teams calls within their state approved spy vehicles
feeling bit racist today?
@@fatdoi003
Thats NOT racist - it is FACT !
spy-cars they indeed are.... broadcast-your-data ( for Free too )
It's amazing how proficient china has become at polishing turds on mass , for idiots the whole world over that believe form comes before function , they probably get a kick out of tricking us into thinking something is quality , I'm sure the tools they use to fix the machines in their factories are fit for purpose , they are just meeting the market
The risks dont change through a woke language filter
They may be doing us a favor populating the up and coming "building your dreams" potential leaders
I had a Samsung Galaxy S21+ mobile phone that completely failed two weeks prior to the 12-month warranty running out. Considering that it cost $1400 I thought thought even 12 months was a bit 'lean'.
When I returned it to the store, I was initially informed about "store policy," at which point I let them know that we weren't talking the same language.
I did agree for a period of 'assessment', but after six weeks and unfulfilled promises of contact, I returned to say that if this continued, I wouldn't be anyone's sweetheart for very long.
I received a brand new Galaxy S24 the following day.
I live just outside Yass near Canberra and commute daily. Mate of mine was convinced that it was a good idea to get one of these for the daily into Canberra.
He drilled a big male roo outside Murrumbateman. Huge damage but drivable. He was told 5 months wait for parts. Oh and by the way don’t drive it in the rain because it may
catch fire 🔥. Back to his 2005 BA Ute and never been happier.
Isn't it amazing how *none* of the Atto 3 / Seal / Sea Lion / Dolphin reviews online ever consider issues such as the availability of spare parts? I have seen some that mention concerns about the stated limitations of the warranty... but even here most 'reviewers' sweep those concerns under the carpet.
@@RodneyW 5months wait is a lie, he make up the story. you can get part ship in less than 48hr by air, 4-6-week by ship
@@jetli740sorry to disappoint you mate. In April he was told end of September till he can have it back.
@@jetli740Chinese shill.
Thanks. Team "Bend-over You Dork" are sore, but wiser from the experience.
Had two manscapes. The first refused to charge from day 1. They replaced it. That lasted about a year and it failed too.
Mate any chance you could place the ad at the end so I don't need to skip through it thanks in advance
Sponsorblock ( plugin ) Surprised me when it skips all the stuff on johns videos ,
Depreciation on these will be interesting.
Catastrophic! Who would want to buy a USED one! Cost of ownership therefore is off the scale. What a Con. these EVs.
Great point, I’d love to see some predictions here.
With some of the early EV’s now at the 8 year mark - who’s buying them, esp those with 100k kms + on the clock and no options for battery upgrades.
8 years and these cars are scrap making them less environmental overall.
I enjoyv"Binging Your Derision". "Burn Your Dreams" gave me a good belly laugh.
Provide proof . Waiting
BYD.....Buy - Your - Death-trap 😆
Bring Yer Dollars - show me the money 😂 🤑💰
Bide Your Time is the gift that keeps giving 😂
Canberra is freezing at times... A Peugeot designed for Europe buckets out sensational heat , a ev in canberra would would be insane, with the power used to heat the cabin
Canberra is cold in winter by Australian standards but it's way warmer than North America and Europe. They seem to manage mostly okay with their EVs. They occasionally have winter storms that cause problems for most cars. I live in Canberra so I know what it's like. It was 15 deg C today, which isn't that cold. I think it was about -2C this morning, which is also not that cold.
@@simoncrooke1644 I moved there in 1996, and left after COVID, and rode my bike everywhere.. Canberra I do miss, but it can get cold for someone who grew up in Darwin.
That was gold John
Who in their right mind would freely drink the "Bugger You Daily" Kool Aid?
Brilliant John, loved the usual humour.
Some people aren't as smart as they think.Fun fact,EVs don't save the planet.😢
The average passenger vehicle emits about 400 grams of CO2 per mile.
@@jetli740 How many grams co2 do 500,000,000 smokers emit every day?
@@jetli740and ? It’s not a bloody poisonous gas.
@@krugmeup2162So you a smoker then??
Exactly, they are just as destructive as ICE. The real solution is mixed neighborhoods with stores in walking distance and good public transport like trains and busses.
And another lithium fire at Bundaberg in a stationary caravan at a caravan dealer yard, Takalvans 🔥
Unless BYD were refusing to replace the battery, this seems like a beatup. Did I miss something? The idea of full refunds under warranty is practically unheard of in almost any retail experience. This failure sounds unfortunate but not unusual that a car broke down under warranty.
I take it you are not Austrailian then?
No I am Australian. and that's how it works in Australia. They would need to not be offered a repair or that repair to be massively unsatisfactory like for example having to wait a very long time for the repair for it not to be deemed as satisfactory warranty. Just like needing the motor or transmission replaced. Try any car dealership
Yeah I don't get it how many news article you hear about petrol car not getting refund under warranty for blown engine, i see almost all getting repaired
6:14, Monty Python reference, priceless!
Still happy to use a piece of machinery that mixes gasoline with air, prior to the intake valves, ingests the mixture and compresses it to 10 atmospheres in a rigid confined space, sets fire to it and uses the expansion of the gaseous mixture from the resultant controlled conflagration to push on a crank and propel me towards my intended destination.
I mean, actual forums exist around the battery and other issues with this product from said manufacturer.
"Ownership considerations", where did those get forgotten, or dare I say neglected?
you miss the part ..it emits about 400 grams of CO2 per mile
@@jetli740 More like 200, it's a 1.4 Fiesta.
Can't do much less than that I am afraid.
I live in a third world country, a hybrid would be the closest thing to reducing pollution here.
Hybrids do about 160 grams CO2 per mile, a plug in hybrid does 40 grams per mile.
Also, my car budget is $5000.
So we do what's within our means.
@@Uncle-Duncan-Shack. Wow what country? Hopefully you'll be able to bypass hybrids & get an EV.
EVs are truly brilliant.
This show is a comedy, not a documentary.
Hi John, please help...I wanted to use BYD batteries to store energy from my solar panels. Now I am doubting the whole project.
John, it will be interest to know what other EV makers do with battery failure on their car. Knowing the fact that battery failure is not isolate to BYD, Tesla for example their model Y has 135 cases of battery failure that represent around 7% of that model line up.
@Turnipstalk SHhnnn this is anti EV channel, it like flat earth no critical thinker
That's complete garbage mate.
How does that silicone wash thingy feel on the glans? 🤔🤭
Does it hurt, or does it actually feel quite good?
BYD has Warren Buffett as a shareholder. He is looking at buying Dodge from Stellantis to give them a backdoor into USA. Electric Jesus also looking at Dodge to spend his carbon credits building V8 hemis
Warren Buffett has been selling his BYD shares lately.
I think you'll find that Buffett has sold out. On record that he has at least reduced his holdings to the point where I don't think it's reported anymore how much he has in BYD
@@martinavery3979 that is correct. Berkshire Hathaway now own less than 6% in Bury Your Driver stock so no doubt he will continue to sell down until zero %.
Reminds me of the Monty Python, dead parrot comedy sketch.
Yeah let’s take one isolated incident and make it a bigger thing than it is. I bought a new Skoda 3yrs ago and the head gadget blew after 9mths but you don’t see me going to the media about it.
BTW I had to pay out of pocket for it, at least they got their battery replaced
@@mrflibble1985 I found the sucker!
@@mrflibble1985 "BTW I had to pay out of pocket for it"
Either you're a fool for doing so within the time that it should have been covered under warranty, or the fault was put down to something you did. People that are soft on sticking to the consumer rights given them are a good part of the reason dodgy dealers try and shaft so many others. They get away with it and try it on with others.
@@erroneouscodeYeah, it sounds like a self-inflicted wound. That's a completely different issue. He wouldn't have had to pay if it was a genuine manufacturing fault.
@@bens6674 and so are they, I was also on an expressway when it happened.
Build ,Year & Date , So when you purchase & vroom the expiry date starts
No Replacement 4 Displacement
Thanks we have 3 evs and you’re helping us to keep all kickbacks coming before the tax man gets his claws into us. Thank you!
Imagine a review of manscaped full of John’s metaphors and analogies
This is such a cool show
X-base user, a public relations ambassador for Hyundai-Kia electric vehicles who is active in the automobile engineering master's and doctorate group on the Korean IT community and Clien community site, says that you should never buy Chinese electric cars... Please keep this in mind
Chinese bus batteries failing prematurely here in uk nephew works for a battery company
Nothing wrong with your wit. Love it
And you have the GALLLLLL to mock my Alfa Giulia. How dare you Dude. Hehehe
BYD might burn your dearest, but at least it won't make you the best friends with your car mechanic...
@@zwerko I love my mechanic
@@magicalwishlist6616 Of course you do, when you spend so much time with somebody you're bound to develop some feelings 😜
Even when I don't agree with John (and I've not watched the whole video yet) his BYD renaming ('Burn your Dreams' and 'Burn Your Driveway') are so funny I had to stop watching and make this comment. The man has a style of his own and a wit worth your time :)
Chinesium that's mined in Wakanda is the extra good stuff.
I know quite a few people with these BYD vehicles and own one myself. First time I have heard of a traction battery issue. Ours is now two years old and has so far had no measurable degradation.
We did have a charge controller that wouldnt allow full rate charging. After determining it didnt present a safety issue, BYD ordered a replacement controller. When it arrived it was replaced under warranty. They kept the car three days just to make sure all was OK (it was the first one they had replaced). We were given a replacement vehicle while ours was away. Three months on it runs like clockwork. No problem at all.
Personally I have had much worse service from Honda who only offered a clapped out Toyota Yaris for the three months it took to get a replacement Civic hybrid gearbox from Tokyo.
The cools, almost became the cooked.
I wonder if this story would have hit mainstream media (and JC's radar) IF the car was ,say Toyota RAV4 which had blown its engine, and Toyota had replaced the engine free of charge and provided a loan vehicle while they were performing the engine transplant?
I can not believe these people expected their car to last past 14 months. What would Greta say? How dare you?
John your BYD definitions are epic...lmao😂
The OEM batteries have been know to catch fire in stand alone off grid systems
So if Bury Your Dissidents replace the full battery pack under warranty, does that mean it is no longer a numbers matching car ??
Prove your claim
@@JonySmith-bb4gx prove your identity
@@mickmckpng3153 I asked for proof . If u can't u lose .
don't make excuses
@@mickmckpng3153 I never made a claim on my identity.
It's a Chinese bred Norwegian blue ....they stun easily.....it's not dead it's just sleeping... laughing from a very hot blighty (rare heat wave)👍
Agree and also suffering from the UK heatwave here in Yorkshire where I am still watering my plants with 2 full water butts after the wettest May on record. Oh and the temp is 16c just now rising to a mind blowing 22c later. It's called summer !!!!
@@kalpat5753up here in Scotland we know it's summer because the rain is warm😊.
Got the python reference as well, absolute classic sketch.
I was looking forward to your take on this one, the moment i saw in the news!
Yes you will have the BYD all over Australia soon
God help us…
@@batmanlives6456fictional characters won't help us, only good decisions will.
Yes we certainly will if Albo has his way.🥵
We need a full listing of all the different acronyms that John stated for B.Y.D. in this video.
… I did wonder about whether this would "dampen" your prior enthusiasm for a work-horse with the aforementioned marque. I would appear to be evaporating rather sprightly.
The BYD's are distributed by an Australian company called EVDirect. No idea what warranty is like in other countries where you buy direct from BYD but here you are dealing with a small importer not BYD itself. My sisters ATTO3 had an issue with the 12volt battery which stopped the car working (18 months old) and she had to source a new one herself. Apparently, it's a very common problem. She is an EV evangelist and keeps nagging me to buy an EV but the more I look at it the more convinced I am that it's not a good choice.