Who would win? An engineer team that spent years designing the oil system in the L5P and has millions of dollars riding on that, or one instagram dude bro in his garage who sees a filter and thinks it's bad?
Just because they're engineers, doesn't mean they know everything. Ask the leaking rear windows, failed electronics, failed running lights, failed multi-flex tailgates, failed welding that makes the roof split apart, failed motors, failed lifters, failed screens, and so on. They don't know everything
@@majfeb17 Do you seriously think they would compromise their cash cow Denali Duramax trucks by making the oil filter too small? Big difference in profit between a Duramax and a 30k colorado.
@jellyfrosh9102 actually there's not a big difference in profit. And the duramax isn't their "cash cow". Foreign produced vehicles are, regardless of what it is.
@majfeb17 lol apply engineers to every other field of work. They are smart because of all their "calculations" but real world they are fucking ass. Many times in the HVAC field of work engineers don't know anything put on the field with real world scenarios and not on a computer calculation or simulation and a factory test field environment
I converted my 2016 and 2021 duramax oil filters to caterpillar filter. I really felt safe with them because of smaller filtration and no by pass valve. I am waiting on a conversion for my 2024 l5p duramax and will make the change again.
Reminds me. My father had a 2001 Dodge Cummins. He added hoses and a huge filter that mounted on the front of his flat bed. It was used on Humvees I believe in the desert. It took a roll of Scott paper towels and an extra gallon of oil. He never had a problem with that.
PPE makes a bigger filter and uses 5 micron media. It also has a good strong magnet and they sell a kit to move the coolant pump back about 4” so you can fit the new filter. It’s literally like $65 for the filter and coolant relocation kit.
Considering the size of these engines I would have expected a bigger filter but on the brighter side ho tuners has broken into the global b ecm we should be able to tune the 24 soon people
I recommend checking your owners manual in the truck. My research shows that 2023 was the first year for the PF63. Both the PF26 and PF63 have a 22 x 1.5mm thread and the gasket dimensions are very similar. The external can dimension are obvious, the PF26 has a larger O.D. The gasket OD and ID are nearly identical. What we can't see from the outside is the internal by-pass valve setting. The PF26 has a by-pass valve setting of 16 psi, and the PF63 has a by-pass valve setting of 22 psi. This is a 6 psi difference. That is what I have found is the difference. It appears that the L5P Y calls for the PF26, and the L5P 5 calls for the PF63. I'm not a GM engineer. Just a guy that digs deep into the why. Hope this helps every one out. Can you screw a PF26 on and run it if your truck calls for a PF63? The short answer is yes, it will run, it will not leak. I have an AMSOIL customer that has had the GM dealer service his 2023 L5P 5 engine and they installed a PF26 when the owners manual states "PF63". He is taking the filter and his last oil change paperwork back to the dealership.
so I have the bigger stock filter on my 2020 l5p and ordered the Amsoil filter. When I received it, it was just as small as your stock filter on your 24. I sent them a email asking if I got the wrong one and they said Chevy did a service bulletin and changed them all to that small size. Strange they would do that, I want the most filter media as possible.
Just got 2024 GMC hd it's leaking transmission fluid around the front 2000 miles. Wow gm is really letting me down. Anybody know about this. Can't find anything but one guy and they replaced entirely.
@joethomas6457: I had a recall "notice" on my 2018 L5P for trans cooler lines developing leaks at the front of the truck...watch and notify they said. Mine never developed the leaks, but yours sounds like they were included from the factory. Sorry for that, good luck with service department.
Also had a horrible vibration with the new 2024 2500. Changed tires after toad force balance and every configuration possible. New rims and tires... Still had vibration. ????? I got a bad one i guess.
@marthanewhouse7750: Could be driveshaft out of balance. The driveshafts are balanced and mated up with the truck as the driveline is assembled. If the installer "clocked" the driveshaft wrong (rotated from where it should be oriented with the differential(s)), there can be vibration, no matter what tires and wheels. The driveshaft weights could also be missing, knocked off, original balance not done or not done correctly...although I'm sure that never happens! Right?
So I’ve been doing research on diesel and I think they’re really cool. However, besides the fuel economy, I really don’t need one. I’m not towing or hauling and it would be my daily driver. I was looking at the 3.0 Duramax, but with the issues that I’ve seen others have, it makes me not want to get one. I see you have some custom tires on yours. Do you tow/haul anything with it? Or is it a daily driver?
Hey my 2024 2500 with 2400 miles just started leaking out of the back end of the transmission and gear. Five shifts really hard. I guess I would take to the dealership have you had this issue?
Oh fun, oil arguments. Amsoil full synthetic in my diesel and comes out cleaner than other oils I have used. Not to mention the engine simply runs smoother. Don't knock it til you try it.
My 2023 L5P 3500 dually denali also uses a PF63 filter from the factory. According to Rock Auto it is the correct filter but the PF26 can also be used. I wonder if the filter media is different, but I know that the same filter is required for my wifes 2023 GMC Yukon Denali with the 6.2 V-8, so I bought a case of them from Rock Auto.
I bought a new 2024 6.6... At 540 miles. Noticed huge cloud of blue smoke. Traded a 2023 Cummins because of DEF issues started at 1k miles. Ram was the worst company to work with. Traded Ram for Chevy. After smoking issues from Chevy. Traded for Tundra... See how it goes.
The PF 63 is the new recommended filter for 2020+ L5P . According to GM the pleats are taller and help with cold start ups. It does seem pretty wimpy compared to the 26, but I’m no engineer.
"The PF63, though narrower, has taller pleats and has more volumetric efficiency as well as better cold flow capabilities." Bigger is not always better. Though I would bet the newer filter would mainly benefit people living in colder winter climates more than anything.
you would think based on the number of commenters who say their 1-3 year old trucks blew a engine / trans so they switched brands, the used market should be littered with almost new trucks with major mechanical issues in their history. but strangely enough there aren't..... Just saying
I regrettably owned a 2023 6.6 Duramax for 9 months and noticed the oil filter is about 1/3 the size of the one that goes on the 6.7 Ford PSD as well has a 10 quart oil capacity compared to the 15 quart oil capacity on a 6.7 PSD. Back driving a 6.7 PSD and not looking back.
Who would win? An engineer team that spent years designing the oil system in the L5P and has millions of dollars riding on that, or one instagram dude bro in his garage who sees a filter and thinks it's bad?
Exactly
Just because they're engineers, doesn't mean they know everything. Ask the leaking rear windows, failed electronics, failed running lights, failed multi-flex tailgates, failed welding that makes the roof split apart, failed motors, failed lifters, failed screens, and so on. They don't know everything
@@majfeb17 Do you seriously think they would compromise their cash cow Denali Duramax trucks by making the oil filter too small? Big difference in profit between a Duramax and a 30k colorado.
@jellyfrosh9102 actually there's not a big difference in profit. And the duramax isn't their "cash cow". Foreign produced vehicles are, regardless of what it is.
@majfeb17 lol apply engineers to every other field of work. They are smart because of all their "calculations" but real world they are fucking ass. Many times in the HVAC field of work engineers don't know anything put on the field with real world scenarios and not on a computer calculation or simulation and a factory test field environment
I converted my 2016 and 2021 duramax oil filters to caterpillar filter. I really felt safe with them because of smaller filtration and no by pass valve. I am waiting on a conversion for my 2024 l5p duramax and will make the change again.
I'm wondering if PPE makes a bigger filter for them yet or a Cat conversion...time to start researching
I believe PPE makes a bigger oil filter for the 2024 L5P
Reminds me. My father had a 2001 Dodge Cummins. He added hoses and a huge filter that mounted on the front of his flat bed. It was used on Humvees I believe in the desert. It took a roll of Scott paper towels and an extra gallon of oil. He never had a problem with that.
PPE makes a bigger filter and uses 5 micron media. It also has a good strong magnet and they sell a kit to move the coolant pump back about 4” so you can fit the new filter. It’s literally like $65 for the filter and coolant relocation kit.
PPE has a kit for the 24’s. It’s the same as the 20-23. The PPE oil filter is massive in comparison.
Did they shorten the dipstick too like they did in my 23 it’s 3/4 inch shorter
Will it be fine if I just did a 7/8s connector for the PCV and 7/8s hose
K&n 2012 is what I use on my 22 same relief pressure as factory filter. And same filter as my ls2 uses
Considering the size of these engines I would have expected a bigger filter but on the brighter side ho tuners has broken into the global b ecm we should be able to tune the 24 soon people
Sooooooo is the pf26 or pf63 the right filter?
I recommend checking your owners manual in the truck. My research shows that 2023 was the first year for the PF63. Both the PF26 and PF63 have a 22 x 1.5mm thread and the gasket dimensions are very similar. The external can dimension are obvious, the PF26 has a larger O.D. The gasket OD and ID are nearly identical. What we can't see from the outside is the internal by-pass valve setting. The PF26 has a by-pass valve setting of 16 psi, and the PF63 has a by-pass valve setting of 22 psi. This is a 6 psi difference. That is what I have found is the difference. It appears that the L5P Y calls for the PF26, and the L5P 5 calls for the PF63. I'm not a GM engineer. Just a guy that digs deep into the why. Hope this helps every one out. Can you screw a PF26 on and run it if your truck calls for a PF63? The short answer is yes, it will run, it will not leak. I have an AMSOIL customer that has had the GM dealer service his 2023 L5P 5 engine and they installed a PF26 when the owners manual states "PF63". He is taking the filter and his last oil change paperwork back to the dealership.
My 2024 came with pf63. But dealer first oil change they used pf26.
What’s going on with the 2024s just bought a new Dulley l5P I wanted to get it tuned but I don’t see anything online
The only flaw is those wheels
What oil are you using in the truck?
What’s the Amazon link to the intake horn plug
Going to reroute mine
so I have the bigger stock filter on my 2020 l5p and ordered the Amsoil filter. When I received it, it was just as small as your stock filter on your 24. I sent them a email asking if I got the wrong one and they said Chevy did a service bulletin and changed them all to that small size. Strange they would do that, I want the most filter media as possible.
About to buy a 2024 dmax am I getting myself into a money pit ?
Wondering the same thing. Looking at the 2024- 2500at4x.
Like an idiot I traded my 2022 Duramax 2500. Had issues immediately with new 2024 Duramax 6.6... Traded immediately
@@marthanewhouse7750
Damn what did you end up getting?
Great, I’m looking at the 2024’s as well. I’m hearing lots of issues.
I know mines a gasser but my 2017 5.3 holds 8 quarts but my filter is small as hell. Doesn't make sense
I run the Amsoil filter. Its a bit bigger
Is it the one they recommend on the Amsoil site EAO 11 I believe
The PF63 is used for the gas engines. The PF63 is the same as the PF64,PF48,PF1250
same filter as my 2021 sierra 1500 with 6.2L gas motor
PF63 is the correct oil filter for L5P for MY2023 forward. Not the PF26. Look in the owners manual. My 2023 3500HD Duramax is the PF63.
They’re interchangeable
My dealer put pf26 on my 2024 hd.
My 2024 3500 L5P manual says PF63
You need to by an oil bypass filter
Just got 2024 GMC hd it's leaking transmission fluid around the front 2000 miles. Wow gm is really letting me down. Anybody know about this. Can't find anything but one guy and they replaced entirely.
@joethomas6457: I had a recall "notice" on my 2018 L5P for trans cooler lines developing leaks at the front of the truck...watch and notify they said. Mine never developed the leaks, but yours sounds like they were included from the factory. Sorry for that, good luck with service department.
@@gcflower99 toque converter and they fixed it took 3 weeks. I was happy. But now it jumps at start
Also had a horrible vibration with the new 2024 2500. Changed tires after toad force balance and every configuration possible. New rims and tires... Still had vibration. ????? I got a bad one i guess.
Road force 😂 Not toad force...
@marthanewhouse7750: Could be driveshaft out of balance. The driveshafts are balanced and mated up with the truck as the driveline is assembled. If the installer "clocked" the driveshaft wrong (rotated from where it should be oriented with the differential(s)), there can be vibration, no matter what tires and wheels. The driveshaft weights could also be missing, knocked off, original balance not done or not done correctly...although I'm sure that never happens! Right?
@@gcflower99 Traded it...
Great Stuff thanks for sharing - Mike
You need to be running a “PF-63 Filter” your using the wrong one hoss.
So I’ve been doing research on diesel and I think they’re really cool. However, besides the fuel economy, I really don’t need one. I’m not towing or hauling and it would be my daily driver. I was looking at the 3.0 Duramax, but with the issues that I’ve seen others have, it makes me not want to get one. I see you have some custom tires on yours. Do you tow/haul anything with it? Or is it a daily driver?
I have a 3.0L duramax in a 22 yukon and have had 0 problems with it in 25k miles. They're great engines.
3.0 duramax is fantastic I had one before for 2 years traded it for a 3500
Hey my 2024 2500 with 2400 miles just started leaking out of the back end of the transmission and gear. Five shifts really hard. I guess I would take to the dealership have you had this issue?
Oh fun, oil arguments. Amsoil full synthetic in my diesel and comes out cleaner than other oils I have used. Not to mention the engine simply runs smoother. Don't knock it til you try it.
Yep great stuff I run it in literally everything at my house.
Has anybody deleted a 2024 duramax
No they have a different ECM/ECU with different pins on the connector.
My 2023 L5P 3500 dually denali also uses a PF63 filter from the factory. According to Rock Auto it is the correct filter but the PF26 can also be used. I wonder if the filter media is different, but I know that the same filter is required for my wifes 2023 GMC Yukon Denali with the 6.2 V-8, so I bought a case of them from Rock Auto.
I guess we could cut open the filters and look at how many square inches of media in the different filters
It look like the oil filter that fit on my 1998 ford ranger.I think that engine need a bigger oil filter
I bought a new 2024 6.6... At 540 miles. Noticed huge cloud of blue smoke. Traded a 2023 Cummins because of DEF issues started at 1k miles. Ram was the worst company to work with. Traded Ram for Chevy. After smoking issues from Chevy. Traded for Tundra... See how it goes.
The PF 63 is the new recommended filter for 2020+ L5P . According to GM the pleats are taller and help with cold start ups. It does seem pretty wimpy compared to the 26, but I’m no engineer.
"The PF63, though narrower, has taller pleats and has more volumetric efficiency as well as better cold flow capabilities."
Bigger is not always better. Though I would bet the newer filter would mainly benefit people living in colder winter climates more than anything.
you would think based on the number of commenters who say their 1-3 year old trucks blew a engine / trans so they switched brands, the used market should be littered with almost new trucks with major mechanical issues in their history. but strangely enough there aren't..... Just saying
This truck seems like a headache compared to the last one
I thought they were a PF 63 oil filter
It does take a PF63
The next bodystyle they won’t have an oil filter
Lubed for life. No dipstick, no drain plug.
Stand that pissant filter next to a Cummins filter and LOL. The stock fuel filter comparo is no better.
Dealer told me a PF63 which is even smaller! I am running a PF26 still ,I agree these should have large CAT filters on them!
I regrettably owned a 2023 6.6 Duramax for 9 months and noticed the oil filter is about 1/3 the size of the one that goes on the 6.7 Ford PSD as well has a 10 quart oil capacity compared to the 15 quart oil capacity on a 6.7 PSD. Back driving a 6.7 PSD and not looking back.
So the oil capacity makes the ford superior because why???
@@billyrose7181where did I state higher oil capacity makes the Ford superior????
I change my oil every 3 weeks & still nasty
Those rims and tires look like dog crap
2024 duramax with 500 miles. Have the dreaded oil leak right around the oil filter area.