Was about to comment on how Northstar is able to be as cheesy as ronin with its ability to kyte god himself. People just forget that the cooldown of tether traps is way shorter than the duration, so u can have a TON of them on the map xD If you play your cards right, you can set up guaranteed nuke kills: Play a chokepoint, throw trap away (at the back of the enemy) by looking up, bodyblock the other side. use hoover and smoke to stall a bit for the trap to activate. If you have some hp left and can't nuke yet, u can cluster missile yourself to deal that last bit of dmg.
As someone who has recently gotten over their monarch phase and happily returned to ion and scorch that description screen brought back some repressed memories aND I CAN SMELL IT THE BATTERIES THEY ARE NEAR THE HUNGER DOES NOT GO AWAY
Actually, I'd argue scorch perfectly counters a bad to lower-medium skilled ronin, with his heat shield and area denial. although as a scorch main I will admit that a good ronin will work around this and can totally troll me big time.
As a Legion main, he really is one of the most honest titans. Short range gun sneeze can seem a little bullshit sometimes (like when it hits three titans for full damage), but I’ve learned to stop questioning why he does what he does. Another thing I would say is that Tone is a far harder counter to Legion than Scorch or Ion could ever hope to be. You’re so slow and fat that you can’t run away, the particle wall is a big “f u” and it’s nearly impossible for you to dodge her rockets. Ion is just mind games and Scorch is countered by not standing in his fire. Also if you position well, Scorch can either reach you with little to no shield left or lose four bars on the approach
Me watching most of this video: hey this is really good, im enjoying this Me at the monarch part: WOAAAAHH PROJECT WINGMAN REFERENCE WOOOOOAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
Isnt monarch like the only true counter to Ronin? The shield health protects her from the arc wave stun and she limits ronins movement with her defensive ability (But yeah arc rounds are absolutelly bullshit, taking the more rockets core is way more fun to both play and play against)
a titanfall 2 titan tierlist video where you name dropped helldivers 2... good tier list i agree with almost everything and i also play helldivers 2, so you gained a sub gg
🥷🏽RONIN MAIN HERE! IF YOU HAVE A HIT AND RUN STYLE ATTACK AGAINST MONARCH THEN HE CANT COUNTER YOU. It’s all about getting close enough to deal damage and not chase too much. ALSO RONIN HAS THE BEST CORE! ABSOLUTE S TIER. He trippin
Funny how the Ronin main hates the one titan that is the soft counter… This is coming from a recovering Monarch main, currently working on getting Ronin to G10
Used to main Ion, got a bit tired of Monarchs and... uh... having to use my brain? So went on to Legion, now I only need to use my brain against Ions and when I reposition. But other than that it's just so damn satisfying to go "brrrrrrrrrt" or "poof" with the giant-ass cannon without a care in the world.
I purely play as a support monarch. Energy transfer, E-field, and either the gun or rockets upgrade. I like to use either the survival of the fittest or rapid rearm. I love when teammates nod or does a teabag as a thank you gesture :)
I agree that scorch himself is like a big walking area denial but that’s fair considering how insanely slow he is. If you are literally any titan other than a legion you either died because you didn’t use your noticeably higher speed to get out of there or you cornered yourself and screwed up. That’s assuming you somehow let a scorch even come close to you in the first place.
Finally someone gets it. Monarch can literally solo any titan in the game. Instead of being a soft counter to every titan like Ion witch is why a respect Ion mains as they have to be pretty good to actually do damage but Monarch is a hard counter except for Ronin but that’s only if you count running away praying the monarch doesn’t have arc rounds as winning. She hits hard has as many dashes as Ronin with more health and can be effective at ANY RANGE. And god forbid there’s more than one and the same area. She is the only titan that can group up with herself and win and she counters every titan. The only other thing I have to say is that I think you should be able to execute people while using sword core.
I would argue a good Northstar pilot counters Ronin. If you have good map knowledge and you know there’s a Ronin in play you can avoid the parts of the map where you know he’ll be hanging out and instead set up lines of sight to poke him. Once you’ve drawn his ire you can predict which path he’ll come to try to fuck you and you can prepare tether traps to bait out his phase dash before popping your core.
I actually agree with tier list! Now is Scorch cheesy? I feel like the same logic that you used for legion applies here. Where if you get damage dealt to you by scorch, it was due to your positioning not scorch's cheesiness. As you can see, I have a bias towards a certain titan.
That's a fair argument, and I understand where you're coming from. If Scorch catches me out, he absolutely deserves that damage. But the main difference with Legion, at least for me, is that you can still shoot back and damage him yourself, whereas Scorch's flame shield denies you that opportunity. So purely based on feeling, Legion feels a bit more fair to me personally (you can still disagree, it's all opinion). In terms of balance, they both deserve the damage that they get. And again, don't get me wrong, he is really fun to play, and I still do occasionally.
I might be a piece of shit for it but.... GOD I FUCKING LOVE MONARCH, REARM AND RELOAD IS SO GAS MAN, I LOVE PLAYING THIS SHIT LIKE I'M EXECUTING BUTTON COMBOS AND GETTING MY HANDS INTO EVERY FIGHT THERE IS!!!! There's just something else about whipping around to rocket salvo a few grunts or a pilot before continuing the fight against a titan like they weren't even there for a second, I fucking love dashing half way across the map with 4 dashes at any time as long as rearm is up, I love zapping shit to get some shield back and dear god if you let me get an execution off and get my health back you better run for the hills boy because you're next, every titan is a silver platter and your batteries are the full course 3 star Michelin meal~
I had a time where I played monarch alot and that was mostly frontier defense but I was a gremlin when it came to batteries But, I got out of that rabbit hole I now play ion,ronin and tone. My favorite is ion due to the ability to counter many other titans
hot take: Vortex Shield is extremely overpowered (and it should be given at least a one-second cooldown so we can actually do damage to Ion mains who think Vortex Shield is their primary) [Brought to you by Legion Mains Incorporated] (and yes I think his core needs a nerf, but we don't really have the devs to do that, might just make a rebalance mod lmao)
I main Ronin and I think I don't deserve heaven either. 2x arc waves 2x smokes and battery loadout. The combos to drain enemy titan HP are endless. My personal favorite is to drop smoke mid-phasedash through them while they are stunned in tight corridors. Just for extra mayhem and distraction.
The reason people hate playing against Tone is because she is way too overpowered against pilots. Compare her 40-Millimeter cannon to Ion's laser shot. The 40-Millimeter cannon deals the same amount of damage to pilots, but it is magazine fed, has no cooldown, has splash damage, and there is no punishment for missing your shot. The range on tones cannon is also comparable to Northstars range.
Monarch is a genuinely poorly designed titan that people only like cause they can pubstomp with her. Seriously monarch is the only titan that punishes you just for having dumb teamates which is something completely out of your control.
Tone was monarch before monarch was in the game. Shield was dxmn near u breakable @ base (still is outside of ronin/north) Rockets did waaaay more dmg. Her shiedl cooldown has never been nerfed. So ever wat, 9 secs theyre basically invincible. Shes fair now but for like the 1st yr, you just had to ignore how fighin broken this basic aas normie titan was.
I would say North Star is cheesy as its hover can be very good for getting up hills faster or shooting other titans through little gaps plus it also counters scorch very well scorch as such a large hull its a perfect target for a charged plasma railgun and cluster missile while she does not have any defensive abilities her dash is good enough since she is so nimble. Now comments do you have any objections?
"i never understood the hate for tone" "tone is predictable" Theres a large part of ur answer, tone is BORING to fight. As well as super easy to play and be effective with.
I can’t buy the ion isn’t cheesy argument. Lasershot is beyond overpowered. I pub stomped with ion and just used laser shot on all the enemy pilots after getting my titan early and it was so sad. The pilots got killed so unbelievably quickly that there was nothing they could do against me. Laser shot kills any pilot in view instantly and you got two of them encase you somehow miss! I ended up getting like 30 kills from laser shot spamming the whole game and camping at range. Ion is the cheesiest titan. Well besides monarch obviously
Tether + nuclear ejection Northstar would be going into "You are not going to heaven" tier
thanks for the idea 😈
Was about to comment on how Northstar is able to be as cheesy as ronin with its ability to kyte god himself. People just forget that the cooldown of tether traps is way shorter than the duration, so u can have a TON of them on the map xD
If you play your cards right, you can set up guaranteed nuke kills: Play a chokepoint, throw trap away (at the back of the enemy) by looking up, bodyblock the other side. use hoover and smoke to stall a bit for the trap to activate. If you have some hp left and can't nuke yet, u can cluster missile yourself to deal that last bit of dmg.
@@danielvigario3477just use smoke
EPG DETECTED⚠️⚠️‼️
OPINION VALIDATED 💯💯🗣️🗣️
As someone who has recently gotten over their monarch phase and happily returned to ion and scorch that description screen brought back some repressed memories aND I CAN SMELL IT THE BATTERIES THEY ARE NEAR THE HUNGER DOES NOT GO AWAY
Actually, I'd argue scorch perfectly counters a bad to lower-medium skilled ronin, with his heat shield and area denial. although as a scorch main I will admit that a good ronin will work around this and can totally troll me big time.
holy moly I have never agreed with a tier list more than this
As a Legion main, he really is one of the most honest titans. Short range gun sneeze can seem a little bullshit sometimes (like when it hits three titans for full damage), but I’ve learned to stop questioning why he does what he does. Another thing I would say is that Tone is a far harder counter to Legion than Scorch or Ion could ever hope to be. You’re so slow and fat that you can’t run away, the particle wall is a big “f u” and it’s nearly impossible for you to dodge her rockets. Ion is just mind games and Scorch is countered by not standing in his fire. Also if you position well, Scorch can either reach you with little to no shield left or lose four bars on the approach
I love monarch and no I'm not going to heaven
Same
Never giving you my batteries
Not your choice to make budy
Ur batteries will be mine
Same man
Me watching most of this video: hey this is really good, im enjoying this
Me at the monarch part:
WOAAAAHH PROJECT WINGMAN REFERENCE WOOOOOAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
Isnt monarch like the only true counter to Ronin? The shield health protects her from the arc wave stun and she limits ronins movement with her defensive ability
(But yeah arc rounds are absolutelly bullshit, taking the more rockets core is way more fun to both play and play against)
2:33 good thinking waiting for them to go to the tunnel so they can't run away to use the core
Finally, someone who recognizes the overpoweredness of sword block
a titanfall 2 titan tierlist video where you name dropped helldivers 2...
good tier list i agree with almost everything and i also play helldivers 2, so you gained a sub gg
Finally! Monarch slander! Music to my ears, overall: great tierlist
Plain and simple great video. You should make more
🥷🏽RONIN MAIN HERE! IF YOU HAVE A HIT AND RUN STYLE ATTACK AGAINST MONARCH THEN HE CANT COUNTER YOU. It’s all about getting close enough to deal damage and not chase too much. ALSO RONIN HAS THE BEST CORE! ABSOLUTE S TIER. He trippin
Monarch is so much fun tho 😂
As a scorch main I start foaming at the mouth every time I see a monarch ESPECIALLY if they have arc rounds and energy theif
(Which they always do)
as a monarch main with tactical big brain, love you too, easy access lil battery
Funny how the Ronin main hates the one titan that is the soft counter…
This is coming from a recovering Monarch main, currently working on getting Ronin to G10
I love de norhtstar
I also love dah scorch
me: (crying in the corner because I main Legion)
@@sandwh1ched GET is ass!
@@just-some-menace6138 good
the sconch
"Ronin is the most balanced titan"
"Ronin has no counters, no downsides ronin is the counter"
I mean.....what
you know how weebs be
Used to main Ion, got a bit tired of Monarchs and... uh... having to use my brain? So went on to Legion, now I only need to use my brain against Ions and when I reposition. But other than that it's just so damn satisfying to go "brrrrrrrrrt" or "poof" with the giant-ass cannon without a care in the world.
I purely play as a support monarch. Energy transfer, E-field, and either the gun or rockets upgrade. I like to use either the survival of the fittest or rapid rearm. I love when teammates nod or does a teabag as a thank you gesture :)
"Ronin has no counters."
Ion, legion, and monarch:
top tier script and editing. How come this guy isnt more known?
Goated music choices
im happy you hate my titan's guts
I agree that scorch himself is like a big walking area denial but that’s fair considering how insanely slow he is. If you are literally any titan other than a legion you either died because you didn’t use your noticeably higher speed to get out of there or you cornered yourself and screwed up. That’s assuming you somehow let a scorch even come close to you in the first place.
Back when I mained Tone I used to aim upwards every time before I shot the homing rockets, it screws up people's timing just that tiny bit
people do it all the time nowadays to curve them around buildings
As an Ion Main, getting to Monarch before Arc rounds is very important. They eat away at vortex shield way too quickly
Finally someone gets it. Monarch can literally solo any titan in the game. Instead of being a soft counter to every titan like Ion witch is why a respect Ion mains as they have to be pretty good to actually do damage but Monarch is a hard counter except for Ronin but that’s only if you count running away praying the monarch doesn’t have arc rounds as winning. She hits hard has as many dashes as Ronin with more health and can be effective at ANY RANGE. And god forbid there’s more than one and the same area. She is the only titan that can group up with herself and win and she counters every titan. The only other thing I have to say is that I think you should be able to execute people while using sword core.
this is such a good list. we need more monarch hate in this world🔥💯
Wow, a titan made out of cheese 🧀
I would argue a good Northstar pilot counters Ronin. If you have good map knowledge and you know there’s a Ronin in play you can avoid the parts of the map where you know he’ll be hanging out and instead set up lines of sight to poke him. Once you’ve drawn his ire you can predict which path he’ll come to try to fuck you and you can prepare tether traps to bait out his phase dash before popping your core.
As a Monarch main this makes me happy
Pizza Tower in the background 😁
I actually agree with tier list!
Now is Scorch cheesy? I feel like the same logic that you used for legion applies here. Where if you get damage dealt to you by scorch, it was due to your positioning not scorch's cheesiness.
As you can see, I have a bias towards a certain titan.
That's a fair argument, and I understand where you're coming from. If Scorch catches me out, he absolutely deserves that damage. But the main difference with Legion, at least for me, is that you can still shoot back and damage him yourself, whereas Scorch's flame shield denies you that opportunity. So purely based on feeling, Legion feels a bit more fair to me personally (you can still disagree, it's all opinion). In terms of balance, they both deserve the damage that they get.
And again, don't get me wrong, he is really fun to play, and I still do occasionally.
monarch my beloved
"Combining Team Fortress 2 style weapons and dmg, with Titanfall movement" wont end well.
I might be a piece of shit for it but....
GOD I FUCKING LOVE MONARCH, REARM AND RELOAD IS SO GAS MAN, I LOVE PLAYING THIS SHIT LIKE I'M EXECUTING BUTTON COMBOS AND GETTING MY HANDS INTO EVERY FIGHT THERE IS!!!!
There's just something else about whipping around to rocket salvo a few grunts or a pilot before continuing the fight against a titan like they weren't even there for a second, I fucking love dashing half way across the map with 4 dashes at any time as long as rearm is up, I love zapping shit to get some shield back and dear god if you let me get an execution off and get my health back you better run for the hills boy because you're next, every titan is a silver platter and your batteries are the full course 3 star Michelin meal~
Rip my monarch :(
Abilities: arson
BROOOO 😭😭😭
Monarchs are eithier absolute monsters or so obsessed with getting a battery that they will die trying to get one
I had a time where I played monarch alot and that was mostly frontier defense but I was a gremlin when it came to batteries
But, I got out of that rabbit hole I now play ion,ronin and tone.
My favorite is ion due to the ability to counter many other titans
hot take: Vortex Shield is extremely overpowered (and it should be given at least a one-second cooldown so we can actually do damage to Ion mains who think Vortex Shield is their primary)
[Brought to you by Legion Mains Incorporated]
(and yes I think his core needs a nerf, but we don't really have the devs to do that, might just make a rebalance mod lmao)
I love titanfall
I main Ronin and I think I don't deserve heaven either. 2x arc waves 2x smokes and battery loadout. The combos to drain enemy titan HP are endless. My personal favorite is to drop smoke mid-phasedash through them while they are stunned in tight corridors. Just for extra mayhem and distraction.
You say "current state of the game" as it was still being updated 😭
Man I LOVE Titanfall 2
Man I js want titanfall 3
The reason people hate playing against Tone is because she is way too overpowered against pilots. Compare her 40-Millimeter cannon to Ion's laser shot. The 40-Millimeter cannon deals the same amount of damage to pilots, but it is magazine fed, has no cooldown, has splash damage, and there is no punishment for missing your shot. The range on tones cannon is also comparable to Northstars range.
Buldzhat beloved meal
They hated him for speaking the truth.
good video my dude, glad I clicked it
your clip at 8:40 felt a little out of place
Yeah, he got me to do some testing on the interactions between Titans, and I got him to promise to put that in the video.
As a Legion main… pretty much, yeah
good vid subed
As a Northstar main. Fuck every other titan
Monarch is a genuinely poorly designed titan that people only like cause they can pubstomp with her.
Seriously monarch is the only titan that punishes you just for having dumb teamates which is something completely out of your control.
i am a follower of the missile path tho...
Tone was monarch before monarch was in the game.
Shield was dxmn near u breakable @ base (still is outside of ronin/north)
Rockets did waaaay more dmg.
Her shiedl cooldown has never been nerfed. So ever wat, 9 secs theyre basically invincible.
Shes fair now but for like the 1st yr, you just had to ignore how fighin broken this basic aas normie titan was.
I would say North Star is cheesy as its hover can be very good for getting up hills faster or shooting other titans through little gaps plus it also counters scorch very well scorch as such a large hull its a perfect target for a charged plasma railgun and cluster missile while she does not have any defensive abilities her dash is good enough since she is so nimble. Now comments do you have any objections?
"i never understood the hate for tone"
"tone is predictable"
Theres a large part of ur answer, tone is BORING to fight. As well as super easy to play and be effective with.
I can’t buy the ion isn’t cheesy argument. Lasershot is beyond overpowered. I pub stomped with ion and just used laser shot on all the enemy pilots after getting my titan early and it was so sad. The pilots got killed so unbelievably quickly that there was nothing they could do against me. Laser shot kills any pilot in view instantly and you got two of them encase you somehow miss! I ended up getting like 30 kills from laser shot spamming the whole game and camping at range. Ion is the cheesiest titan. Well besides monarch obviously
Laser shot essentially halves your defensive ability.
Meanwhile Tone has 12 shots worth of pilot one-taps per magazine, and they also deal splash damage. And using it also doesn't mess with your defense.
Thats more of a general problem with the game though. Pretty much every titan can just insta delete a pilot since its so inbalanced
so you want to play tribes?
Nom nom nom
Have you played the first titanfall
i main scorch, idk feels very cheesy
Great video. Js get a better make dude 😭
0:28 the epg is peak.
(Stand proud, you made peak.
I shit on ronin in tone
Nah fuck Monarchs. Ion gang.
The epg is so cheesy 😭
Hey monarchs the best one here I completely disagree with your tier list get out man.
That's kinda cheesy
glad to make another person angry by playing monarch 👍
I love titanfall