Some fun facts bout the guns for ya'll 101 and 201, when first added to the game, the 101 had the exact same stats, but after the monarch reigns DLC Respawn nerfed the 201s spray pattern. They must've forgotten to also do the same thing to the 101, so the 101 is literally just the 201 pre patch and the 201 is the up to date version post patch. Hemlok Used to be the 2nd best gun in the game, with a 1 burst from close/medium ranges and amped damage making it a 1 burst anywhere on the map. Mozambique used to be a secondary til Respawn saw how fuckin OP it was Devotion was BROKEN, especially with A-Wall Pilot. you used to Either be able to choose a secondary OR an anti-titan weapon, not both, leading to titans lasting a lot longer against pilots cos people wouldn't run AT weapons as commonly. MGL Was super OP higher damage, more range and 2 more Nades by default, pretty much noone used anything but that and the charge rifle back in the day. Eva-8 was a lot better than now, I believe it could 2 shot from close/medium range, and 1 shot with Amp. they nerfed it and increased the mastiffs range, but people still just used the Eva lmao. Amped weapons used to last until you died, meaning if you could survive or find a dinky little camping spot, you could have a godly damage boost pretty much all game, fucked up weapon balances fr.
id like to add to this that phaseshift used to have two charges that each lasted 2 seconds where now you get one that last around 4 instead laser shot on ion used to cost less energy and do more damage
Back in the ooooooooold days, the Wingman Elite was also a secondary (I mean I get why they did it, I _absolutely_ used it like a primary alongside my Sidewinder) and you could use the Devo like a poor man's G2.
@@hyperduplafly2941 i love all weapons equally but i hate when people use car or any tryhard weapons. Like were here to have fun, not fight. Edit1:I mean no ones gonna say "wow youre so good" when you get car kills. My friends say im good because i get kills with softball a hard weapon to play. Also most of the times i get kills why im having fun not tryhard. Edit2: Also Softball's sound is so funny i love hearing it "boing boing" same for mgl.
Been playing TF2 since Beta and I remember the days that the Devotion,G2,and Hemlock were all everybody used due to their broken stats which the best comparison for nowadays would be like having 3 variants of the spitfire running around. Glad to see game is playable again tho. Time to hop back in.
the funniest thing is that CAR became the best weapon in the game not because it was buffed, because it has never been changed, but because all the weapons that were better were nerfed
Mastiff is awsome when you get used to it. The amount of chemicals my brain releases when hitting al the pellets while predicting a pilot direction at close range is enormous
I love the Cold War for multiple reasons. First is the concept alone. It’s a four-round burst bullpup railgun grenade launcher. Second, it got me to utilize the movement a lot more because that gun is at its best when a pilot is below you or against a solid surface. They’re as good as melted at that point
@@sternwardboss If you are in a pilot fight, just wait until the enemy is about to land on the ground and fire in that spot. Splash damage is your best friend when using these weapons!
The EVA and G2 are some of my favorite weapons. I play on PC, so the EVA spread helps me land my shots, and since I’m not comfortable with snipers, the G2 helps me fill that niche without having to play super passively. But that’s my opinion.
is fun to see how a tier list changes depending on if the player uses controller or mnk, for example all smgs, snipers and shotguns go a rank higher in PC
@@RegularLunarTitanfall 2 has a few movement quirks if you play with a controller, quirks like having more easy wallrun boosts because lurge straight up doesn't happen
Bought tf2 on my ps4 a few months ago and ive been grinding it like crazy. The epg is so much fun. I like playing support as a pilot and trying to destroy enemy titans. The epg shreds both pilots and titans paired with firestars it's awesome
As a mastiff main, getting midrange kills is actually possible and very satisfying with it, and there is no difference in the spread between hip firing and aiming
The Mastiff (also known as the Memestiff) is a meme weapon and takes a lot of skill to use and get kills with it. It's one of those weapons that when pick it up you either get destroyed so hard you never use it again or you destroy and absolutely pub stomp the lobby. If the latter were to happen these people could become Mastiff mains. And Mastiff mains are some of easiest or the scariest people you can fight against.
Mastiff is my main, and its all about projectile velocity, know how fast your shots go, how fast the enemy goes, line it up and score 5 points for your team, get alright at movement and you can truly shred lobby's, its a great gun! Nice video btw
I like to rock the sidewinder SMR on my anti titan load out because it does some pretty good damage and if you pair that with a good AT weapon you could drop 5 to 6 titan kills
It was going so well, until the L Star. I can see the reasoning for most of the placements but I would definitely change a lot of the 2nd half of the tier list
@@sternwardboss by no means do I mean to come across as overly critical. I understand it’s your list of your opinions. Just some things I couldn’t figure out how it got there
@@sternwardboss for me it’s either the Kraber or Mastiff, although I’ve currently very close to reaching 1K kills on every weapon bar snipers which are up to 500
Ok for the Devotion u absolutly gotta play with Stim and Run N Gun mod on Devotion, and for the love of god prefire this weapon there is no other mods u should run with this weapon even if u r playing at range I absolutely recommend u have stim and run n gun and the mod for the pilot kills = tactical is also a must. It takes some skill to use this gun but if u use it right and with that stim, run n gun and something to decrease the tactical cool down it is actually pretty good and hella fun to use.
The fact that this game had so little updates but still has better gun balance than cs:go and ALL guns are fun to use (depending on the person) is incredible. No hate but I disagree with the list, I would put mastif and kraber in s tier but with this game the list is just subjective since the only gun that is bad is a gun you haven't gotten used to since even the secondaries and the mele are a viable option and the only ones that stand above the rest are car and to some degree yes the spitfire while the rest have their time to kill balanced with skill needed to use or firerate/spread. All in all you can 1v1 any gun with any gun with being at the same skill level as the other person which to me is something no other game achieves and what makes the gunfights in TF|2 soo satisfying
I'm a Softball and Coldwar main, and the reason I use them is not because they are the strongest weapons persay, but because of the reaction of 6 CAR mains after collectively getting wiped by a single shot
I am G2, I started with EPG and grapple, now I play wingman elite and pulse blade. I get like 3 kills per game, but it's so much fun, and that one pulse blade kill I got was the most satisfying thing ever
Ya that was my goal. This game has very good weapon balancing for the most part (Except CAR and Spitty lol) so it’s hard to rank them super accurately. I put a lot of thought into this list though so I’m happy with my (Personal) rankings.
Wait the R97 has bad- It’s hip fire is better then ADS’ing, sniping pilots from the hip with it is a dream, but meh, your opinion. I accept that. Edit: However, the damage drop of is really bad, that’s why it feels like you’re missing.
one thing to consider in this game is the hipfire reticle, if youre playing this game right youre using hipfire a lot and the reticle on something like the Alternator feels a lot better than the R-97's imo
Thank you! I can’t help making Titanfall content. Unfortunately I can’t make a lot of TF content because there’s just not enough content to make obviously. We need TF3. There’s just no game like it.
One of the biggest frustrations I see with kraber is you have to suffer through learning it and any aim or movement input you do will offset the projectile in that direction so that is something you just have to learn to deal with
@@ThatAngryJho-td3xe for me the worst thing about the kraber is that is the weapon that plays the most different from the rest, which means after using other weapons for a few matches it takes you like 5 macthes to use the kraber right again
I know you’re saying you’re sorry for those people who are skilled with certain guns. But man, everyone’s got their guns. I’m trying to get better with the G2 and hemlock. And a few others. Everyone’s got their things mate! Love the tier list!!
Ive used the spitfire back when it was bad. Then when i came back a couple years ago i was getting a lot of kills and a lot of angry xbox messages and i wasnt sure why
One of my favourite classes in the game to use, is SMR A-wall. People simply don't understand how unnecessarily fast you can shred a titan. I typically fire a thunderbolt shot, then start spraying with the SMR, and if you play your cards right, can delete a legion very fast. 10/10 class.
The volt is *NOT* hit scan. It has the fastest flying projectile of all the projectile guns. You can definitely notice at longer ranges that is it actually isn’t hipfire.
Deadass as long as you aren’t in a comp player lobby you can beat everyone with any weapon in the game if you’re good enough. The only genuine s tier weapons would be car,alt,r101,spitty. A tier would be all other ars/smgs as well as kraber and wingman elite. Everything else it b tier, maybe cold war in c tier cause it’s more map dependent
To follow that up though spitfire just shouldn’t be in the game, the reasons why it’s good are ammo capacity and range, you can just map people pretty easily but any skilled player will win if they get in your face cause its hipfire is trash
Not sure lol. It’s still pretty shaky to me. I also control the recoil with little circular motion. I don’t just pull down. I pull down and do little circles if that makes sense. It helps with the shake a bit
DMR was always one of my favorites, on both TF1 and TF2. Odd to put the Wingman in A tier and not the DMR. The G2A was probably my fav in TF1 and still is fantastic... better than the DMR for medium to long range.
This is a fun video to watch of a more average player’s pov from what I am seeing gameplay wise. A lot of what I am seeing struggle wise from you is straight up basic movement mechanics if you want something to work on for bettering yourself. Great content for people getting into the game at the moment that want a decent feel for more grounded play relevance of weapons.
I am just saying that based off the clips that you supplied for the video not trying to offend anyone. There is a lot of fairly static play and most of the people you are shooting at aren’t even reacting by the time you kill them, but it is just snippets of gameplay not the bigger picture.
Yes, yes I did. Sorry that I poked through your thin skin with attempting to give some constructive criticism that you would do better if you improved your movement on a public forum about your thoughts and experiences. From my point of view in the video you are fairly static in a lot of situations. As you know all shooters and your potential in them are based off you awareness, accuracy and ability to use movement to take advantage of those two things. I feel like I am watching a person that is generally a good amount above average in most shooters with aim and awareness but you aren’t quite taking advantage of basic movement mechanics and relying more and positioning and a half understanding of some more advanced mechanics to get you kills. It isn’t like what you are doing is wrong, but you do have a lot of room you can grow in the game from what I saw as far as movement.
Thin skin? Lol bro you’re blind if you think my gameplay is “Static” ya with certain guns i play more “static” but that’s by choice not because I don’t know how to fly. You act like I’m camping in spawn with a shield and Spitfire 😂. I’m guessing you’re probably one of those guys who Stims and is constantly in the air. That’s fine that’s your play style. I like to fly but I also like to ground myself because guess what?? Most pilots are looking up for Pilots like yourself. I don’t like flying everywhere at all times. Here’s a “Static” “bad movement” clip for you 4:08. Here’s another “bad movement” clip for you as well with them “not noticing me” 4:30 . Here’s another “bad movement” “Enemies didn’t notice me” clip 5:37. Here’s another “static” enemies not noticing me clip 7:11. Bro I ain’t the best in the game but to say I have bad movement is insane. I’m top scoreboard almost every game lol
It seems like everything has potential if the player knows how to use it. It's a sign that Titanfall is fairly balanced, it's not perfect, but you have potential to win fights no matter what you use. Some take more skill than others and the that's perfectly fine for veteran players. AR's and SMG's have just as much potential, but they are much easier to use, making them great for new players. I'll take this over COD or Apex any day.
Sooo...little old TF2 'meta' play...the Alternator isn't really a sub machine, more of a tap gun, because when you tap it it has no recoil and takes down a pilot in three or four shots. FYI
I just noticed a couple days ago that they pretty much shut down the in game store. Most of the items say “No longer available” like why? I still every now and then bought a skin 😂
Personally, the alternator has to go mid/low S tier. Broken gun, I dominated an entire lobby with no time on the gun as a kraber player. Speaking of, the kraber is probably B tier. The enemy team will tell you to touch grass when your aim is popping, but you’ll always have some really off games. It shreds, but consistency is a problem. I learned the softball for a while. The gun is monstrous. It’s still a C or D tier though, because you have to play a specific way and it’s unforgiving to learn/screw up. The volt in my opinion should be lower. Great weapon, but it’s just obsolete when compared to the legendary car, alternator, flatline, or even the r97. It can’t compete with weapons just like it, because they are simply more powerful Just my two cents
I think all the rapid movement mechanics like wall run and slide should be behind certain perks to a degree. Hear me out! If chosen it causes you to sacrifice other great perks. This would force a good percentage of players to stop using the super fast agressive playstyle that is the meta. In turn making all the abilities that aren't graple or stim mich more feasible to play with. Combine this with a broader mix of map design to include some open long range maps, maps with entire quaters that titans cant even shoot into, or areas with no way for wall running and you'll allow for more playstyles. For example: all players can wall run and slide by default etc but its only with a certain perk combination that you gain the acceleration and extra wall run/slide disrance that is currently standard. This way run and gun mayhem will still be just as feasible but so will all the abilities and weapons that are currently useless. Holo, A wall, cloak, LMG, sniper rifles/DMR, some assault rifles, regular grenades,
I completely disagree. I see your point but let’s say the next game did what you suggested? The entire TF community would NOT be happy about it myself included. I don’t want to be limited. I don’t want my wings clipped lol Titanfall is an aggressive movement shooter. Doesn’t need to be complicated
@sternwardboss It wouldn't be limited, the changes I described would allow for what we have now and more. What I'm suggesting would serve TFs current fan base and bring in more. It's not all about movement, that's inaccurate, titans aren't all about movement, infact some like tone with its shield are about positing well and staying there. Some abilities like A wall are about defensive strategies. If you want it to be only about movement the ok fine. Get rid of the useless classes and weapons or find a way to fix them or somthing to replace them with. But that will result in all the classes and weapons performing virtually the same, which is boring, shutting out a larger audience. Currently there are two viable classes and 3.5 categories of weapons that are useful. It's so disappointing to see all these cool gadgets and weapons only to find out 70% sucks! I don't think the entire community would be unhappy. But I don't like to speak for other people.
@sternwardboss Titanfall is also about: scifi, shooting, strategy, pvp, pve, level grinding, rng loot and much more. It's clear as day to me that Titanfall isn't successful because of its movement. What make Titanfall so good is that it takes the best aspects of so many games and combines them into what is, in concept, the perfect game. The special forces vibes of ghost recon combined with the jet fighter pilot fantasy. The gorgeous armour and weapons of halo. The dopamine spike of moving through a world in mirrors edge. The PVE and PVP combined multilayer better than most MMOs! Lore worthy of a star wars reboot. The outright obsurdety of Warhammer drop pods. Respawn formed from people fed up of call of duty representativeness BECOMING BORING. The same thing every year, so desperate to be more of the same. How can you not see that the Titanfall concept was to broad and so compete, and you call yourself a Titanfall fan? Like any piece of art it got things right and messed up others. They got the movement right, but they messed up a lot of ballence. I want to see the true Titanfall concept become real. I've had games that are just more of the same and they all suck 3, 4 or 5 instalments in.
@@sternwardboss Nah lol it's all personal preference for sure. Like im a God with EPG but i can't for the life of me get good with the Wingman Elite. I feel like outside of the Car and the Spitty, all of the guns are pretty well balanced. I love seeing random pilots rocking something like a Double Take or even the Mastiff, weapon variety from pilot to pilot keeps the game fresh and i prefer it instead of the usual Car/Spitty Meta.
My opinion (console)- S Tier: CAR, Volt, Alternator, R97, R101, Spitfire A Tier: R201, Eva 8, G2, Flatline B Tier: Hemlock, Kraber, Wingman Elite, Mozambique, EPG, L-Star, Devotion C Tier: Mastiff, DMR, SMR, Cold War, Softball D Tier: Double Take
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mozambique is not a shotgun, it has no damage falloff. It is in a quantum state of shotgun and sniper. It can win any distance fight
Mozambique is a land mass
The only gun you ever need.
Pistol 🤓
Mozambique is amazing
yeah and it's full auto, which makes it a demon up close
Some fun facts bout the guns for ya'll
101 and 201, when first added to the game, the 101 had the exact same stats, but after the monarch reigns DLC Respawn nerfed the 201s spray pattern. They must've forgotten to also do the same thing to the 101, so the 101 is literally just the 201 pre patch and the 201 is the up to date version post patch.
Hemlok Used to be the 2nd best gun in the game, with a 1 burst from close/medium ranges and amped damage making it a 1 burst anywhere on the map.
Mozambique used to be a secondary til Respawn saw how fuckin OP it was
Devotion was BROKEN, especially with A-Wall Pilot.
you used to Either be able to choose a secondary OR an anti-titan weapon, not both, leading to titans lasting a lot longer against pilots cos people wouldn't run AT weapons as commonly.
MGL Was super OP higher damage, more range and 2 more Nades by default, pretty much noone used anything but that and the charge rifle back in the day.
Eva-8 was a lot better than now, I believe it could 2 shot from close/medium range, and 1 shot with Amp. they nerfed it and increased the mastiffs range, but people still just used the Eva lmao.
Amped weapons used to last until you died, meaning if you could survive or find a dinky little camping spot, you could have a godly damage boost pretty much all game, fucked up weapon balances fr.
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id like to add to this that phaseshift used to have two charges that each lasted 2 seconds where now you get one that last around 4 instead
laser shot on ion used to cost less energy and do more damage
Back in the ooooooooold days, the Wingman Elite was also a secondary (I mean I get why they did it, I _absolutely_ used it like a primary alongside my Sidewinder) and you could use the Devo like a poor man's G2.
@@fluffywolfo3663 😏
I never liked the hemlok nerf, they should have left the ability to kill with just one burst in the closest range
Justice for my softball mains🧍🏿♂️
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mozambeast in D tier is gut wrenching
Justice for SMR. (Im a SMR main)
Hey at least I said it was decent lol
@@sternwardbossand im a softball main...
@@sailorsemihsoftball is really good in frontiers defence. Cold war sucks tho.
@@hyperduplafly2941 i love all weapons equally but i hate when people use car or any tryhard weapons. Like were here to have fun, not fight.
Edit1:I mean no ones gonna say "wow youre so good" when you get car kills. My friends say im good because i get kills with softball a hard weapon to play. Also most of the times i get kills why im having fun not tryhard.
Edit2: Also Softball's sound is so funny i love hearing it "boing boing" same for mgl.
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Been playing TF2 since Beta and I remember the days that the Devotion,G2,and Hemlock were all everybody used due to their broken stats which the best comparison for nowadays would be like having 3 variants of the spitfire running around. Glad to see game is playable again tho. Time to hop back in.
Ya weapon balance in this game is in a pretty good spot now and it’s definitely time to hop back in Pilot🫡
the funniest thing is that CAR became the best weapon in the game not because it was buffed, because it has never been changed, but because all the weapons that were better were nerfed
I remember this
I remember I faced a genuine softball main once (at least I think he was) and he absolutely dominated that lobby
It the right hands it’s unstoppable lol
Mastiff is awsome when you get used to it. The amount of chemicals my brain releases when hitting al the pellets while predicting a pilot direction at close range is enormous
It is incredibly satisfying. I just suck with it. I always have lol
Am I wrong or does the mastiff have a tighter spread when you ADS with it?
@@burna.k.a.turtleonalog4327 It does
Also need to use stim with shotguns
The delicate art of laying down fire where someone is going to be rather than where they are.......
I love the Cold War for multiple reasons. First is the concept alone. It’s a four-round burst bullpup railgun grenade launcher. Second, it got me to utilize the movement a lot more because that gun is at its best when a pilot is below you or against a solid surface. They’re as good as melted at that point
Cold War and Softball are absurd if you’re good at staying in the air and spamming at pilots when they’re on the ground
I’ve definitely been on the receiving end lol
@@sternwardboss If you are in a pilot fight, just wait until the enemy is about to land on the ground and fire in that spot. Splash damage is your best friend when using these weapons!
the amount of times ive killed myself with the cold war because the charge doesnt actually charge the same way the charge rifle does is insane
The EVA and G2 are some of my favorite weapons. I play on PC, so the EVA spread helps me land my shots, and since I’m not comfortable with snipers, the G2 helps me fill that niche without having to play super passively. But that’s my opinion.
is fun to see how a tier list changes depending on if the player uses controller or mnk, for example all smgs, snipers and shotguns go a rank higher in PC
I play on PC but with a controller lol. I know what you mean though. I feel like it’s like that in every game
@@sternwardbosswhy? you have better movement control on mnk… it’s a movement game.
@@RegularLunarTitanfall 2 has a few movement quirks if you play with a controller, quirks like having more easy wallrun boosts because lurge straight up doesn't happen
Bought tf2 on my ps4 a few months ago and ive been grinding it like crazy. The epg is so much fun. I like playing support as a pilot and trying to destroy enemy titans. The epg shreds both pilots and titans paired with firestars it's awesome
Ya I’ve been trying to master the EPG. Never really touched the thing until now. It’s extremely satisfying to use.
Man n u got the same loadout as me lol 😂😂
As a mastiff main, getting midrange kills is actually possible and very satisfying with it, and there is no difference in the spread between hip firing and aiming
R 97 main but I really want to get good with the doubletake
Double take just doesn’t do it for me. Kraber is way more satisfying
Fair
I’m getting kind of good of the dub and the Kraber now I agree the kraber is awesom🎉
As a car user, I agree with where you put the car.
It’s definitely the best gun in the game
The recoil of the the Flatline is a......
Flat line. Also when you kill someone you could say you were flatlining them kinda dumb tho tbh
Yes side to side like a flatline and I’m using that 😂
Gotta love the flatline 💯🔥🔥🔥
R97 and the EVA tho... 😬
Dodging the thunderbolt! 🤔👀
Thunderbolt isn’t on the list because it’s and Anti Titan weapon. Plus I only use the charge rifle because I like to kill goosed pilots 😂
The Mastiff (also known as the Memestiff) is a meme weapon and takes a lot of skill to use and get kills with it. It's one of those weapons that when pick it up you either get destroyed so hard you never use it again or you destroy and absolutely pub stomp the lobby. If the latter were to happen these people could become Mastiff mains. And Mastiff mains are some of easiest or the scariest people you can fight against.
Agreed. It’s skilled weapon and in the right hands it’s a scary foe
I’ve been using the Eva 8 and I honestly really like it. It’s one shot if your close enough, and that makes my simple mind very happy. 😂
I would say that anyone who never had the pleasure of playing against Calfx will never really understand what the Eva 8 can do in the right hands
@@ThatAngryJho-td3xe absolute beast if used right, but it is pretty hard to use.
I think people also forget it fires significantly faster in full auto, so even if you miss one shot, you can still kill pretty quickly
12:53 I main EPG I'm usually super super good with it I always get 2nd or 1st with it.
I specifically use it on Complex. That gun is perfect for that map
Take a shot every time he says “bad boy”
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Or “shreds”
Mastiff is my main, and its all about projectile velocity, know how fast your shots go, how fast the enemy goes, line it up and score 5 points for your team, get alright at movement and you can truly shred lobby's, its a great gun!
Nice video btw
@@helpthebirdsarekeepingmeho4368 💪🏼
I like to rock the sidewinder SMR on my anti titan load out because it does some pretty good damage and if you pair that with a good AT weapon you could drop 5 to 6 titan kills
Ya Sidewinder Destroys Titans. It’s kind off broken lol
It was going so well, until the L Star. I can see the reasoning for most of the placements but I would definitely change a lot of the 2nd half of the tier list
We’ll I’m sorry I didn’t read your mind I person I’ve never met In my entire life before making MY tier list 😂. Like I said it’s just my list:)
@@sternwardboss by no means do I mean to come across as overly critical. I understand it’s your list of your opinions. Just some things I couldn’t figure out how it got there
@@kiesonix What’s your favorite weapons?
@@sternwardboss for me it’s either the Kraber or Mastiff, although I’ve currently very close to reaching 1K kills on every weapon bar snipers which are up to 500
Nice! Been trying to get good with the Kraber again. I use to be so good with it but I suck with it now lol
Oh wow I saw myself in your video! I was the guy who blasted you with the EPG at 9:50 hahaha
No way! 😂
hi rob
The first kill with the kraber was way too funny
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3:42 another fact is that it ruins everyone’s day
I'm really impressed by how you move and land your shots with a controller
Thank you!
Ok for the Devotion u absolutly gotta play with Stim and Run N Gun mod on Devotion, and for the love of god prefire this weapon there is no other mods u should run with this weapon even if u r playing at range I absolutely recommend u have stim and run n gun and the mod for the pilot kills = tactical is also a must. It takes some skill to use this gun but if u use it right and with that stim, run n gun and something to decrease the tactical cool down it is actually pretty good and hella fun to use.
Thanks for the tips💪🏼
Used this strategy, and didnt die the whole game, 32 kills, imma get the elite skin for it, looks cool
The fact that this game had so little updates but still has better gun balance than cs:go and ALL guns are fun to use (depending on the person) is incredible. No hate but I disagree with the list, I would put mastif and kraber in s tier but with this game the list is just subjective since the only gun that is bad is a gun you haven't gotten used to since even the secondaries and the mele are a viable option and the only ones that stand above the rest are car and to some degree yes the spitfire while the rest have their time to kill balanced with skill needed to use or firerate/spread. All in all you can 1v1 any gun with any gun with being at the same skill level as the other person which to me is something no other game achieves and what makes the gunfights in TF|2 soo satisfying
Every gun is S tier in the right hands and I love that as well. It keeps the game from getting boring because you can always try different loadouts.
As the DMR main i can truly say to you that this damn thing absolutely dominates on every map(except for complex maybe)
I'm a Softball and Coldwar main, and the reason I use them is not because they are the strongest weapons persay, but because of the reaction of 6 CAR mains after collectively getting wiped by a single shot
Softball and Cold War main? Damn I wouldn’t wanna be in your lobbies 😂
I am G2, I started with EPG and grapple, now I play wingman elite and pulse blade. I get like 3 kills per game, but it's so much fun, and that one pulse blade kill I got was the most satisfying thing ever
Love this.
the moz got a higher rating than the softball, thats crazy.
My list:) hey man if you slay with the Softball then good on you. I can stand that weapon lol
@@sternwardbossI was just making a joke. I do like how for the most part you tried to keep the tier list based on the actual use of the guns.
Ya that was my goal. This game has very good weapon balancing for the most part (Except CAR and Spitty lol) so it’s hard to rank them super accurately. I put a lot of thought into this list though so I’m happy with my (Personal) rankings.
Wait the R97 has bad-
It’s hip fire is better then ADS’ing, sniping pilots from the hip with it is a dream, but meh, your opinion. I accept that.
Edit: However, the damage drop of is really bad, that’s why it feels like you’re missing.
Never let bro cook again, he made lunchly look edible
one thing to consider in this game is the hipfire reticle, if youre playing this game right youre using hipfire a lot and the reticle on something like the Alternator feels a lot better than the R-97's imo
@@R451Ns ADS on the Alt feels like it’s less accurate at any range lol.
10:07 that dude came flying in for a kick, wow
Had to rewatch it 😂
You should have taken rocket jumping into consideration wheb talking about the epg
spitfire mains turning titanfall 2 into a point and click game
You ain’t lying lol
Flatline and C..A.R are my Favorites Goat 🐐 Weapons
Guaranteed shredders
6:37 and yet you say your favorite is the r-101 or r-201 which is also OP
I wouldn’t say they’re OP but they’re definitely nasty
@@sternwardboss I guess its not exactly OP but it’s still powerful especially if the person knows how to use it
Bro is humble lol. Says "I suck with Mastiff and Kraber" proceeds to show video of him sniping people mid air from across the map lol
Lol I appreciate that 💪🏼
My personal S tier
EPG, Mosambik, L-Star and maybe Car
(Yes, I like projectiles)
I agree with the list overall. Great job and I always love to see active pilots. 👌
Thank you! I can’t help making Titanfall content. Unfortunately I can’t make a lot of TF content because there’s just not enough content to make obviously. We need TF3. There’s just no game like it.
Justice for the softball and the Mozambique
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I only use the grenedir weapons juat cause they are all so fun to use lol (I have 700 kills with the softball 💀)
Hey man, like I said you can dominate with any gun in the game. I personally just hate that thing lol. EPG for me when it comes to grenadiers.
I’ve been using kraber and it’s kinda frustrating but I’m gonna put more time
Ya you just need to practice with that thing. It’s tough to use but when you go off with it it’s incredibly satisfying
One of the biggest frustrations I see with kraber is you have to suffer through learning it and any aim or movement input you do will offset the projectile in that direction so that is something you just have to learn to deal with
@@ThatAngryJho-td3xe for me the worst thing about the kraber is that is the weapon that plays the most different from the rest, which means after using other weapons for a few matches it takes you like 5 macthes to use the kraber right again
I know you’re saying you’re sorry for those people who are skilled with certain guns. But man, everyone’s got their guns. I’m trying to get better with the G2 and hemlock. And a few others. Everyone’s got their things mate! Love the tier list!!
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The "FoR mE pERsonaLlY" is in god tier
Ya it’s my tier list not someone else’s lol
I want justice for the Mozambique, the Mastiff, and the Softball these are my favorite guns and they all deserve S tier.
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Ive used the spitfire back when it was bad. Then when i came back a couple years ago i was getting a lot of kills and a lot of angry xbox messages and i wasnt sure why
Ya it’s by far the most hated gun lol
"with projectile the DMR would be easier to use" what's your thought process behind that?
With long range guns I tend to lead.
The flatline is called that because u can make a flat line with it since it has no vertical recoil
I know. You think it would be hard to control but it’s really not
One of my favourite classes in the game to use, is SMR A-wall. People simply don't understand how unnecessarily fast you can shred a titan. I typically fire a thunderbolt shot, then start spraying with the SMR, and if you play your cards right, can delete a legion very fast. 10/10 class.
I’ll give it a shot! Thanks
Softball needs a buff to reload speed, it's actually insane
@@user-rg9co7dk2r Ya the reload is ROUGH
the Mozambique is more of a mid range to close range than a strict shotgun
I’ve actually been using it more. It’s slowly starting to grow on me
I main the car SMG
The volt is *NOT* hit scan. It has the fastest flying projectile of all the projectile guns. You can definitely notice at longer ranges that is it actually isn’t hipfire.
It is actually. The tracers are merely an affect
@@sternwardboss well, there is really only one way to forever resolve this. Custom match.
Alternator has to be S tier that gun shreds like crazy and it looks sick asf
It’s between S and A for me. It is insane I’ll give you that.
Deadass as long as you aren’t in a comp player lobby you can beat everyone with any weapon in the game if you’re good enough.
The only genuine s tier weapons would be car,alt,r101,spitty. A tier would be all other ars/smgs as well as kraber and wingman elite. Everything else it b tier, maybe cold war in c tier cause it’s more map dependent
To follow that up though spitfire just shouldn’t be in the game, the reasons why it’s good are ammo capacity and range, you can just map people pretty easily but any skilled player will win if they get in your face cause its hipfire is trash
That’s why I hate the Spitty. Can’t really be aggressive with it.
Mastiff over the EVA8 is insane also Mozam is atleast an A tier weapon
There’s just something about the Evo I can’t stand
Flatline main here, love the appreciation!
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At this point with no further balance patches, there are no bad weapons, just bad pilots (me)
That’s very true lol
As a new player thanks for making this vid and informing us of recent meta
I got you💪🏼
Personally im a Devotion main and its fun ngl
It’s very fun I’ll give it that
10:26 Mr. Kraber is a menace
@@jjboyeet such an Incredible weapon
I mostly disagree with you, BUT you have some good content on TITAFALL 2. Liked and subbed.
All good! Thank you 🙏🏼. Unfortunately there’s not a lot of content I can make with TF2 but I do try to do one video a month on it. We need TF3 lol
How do you have such little screen shake with r201
Not sure lol. It’s still pretty shaky to me. I also control the recoil with little circular motion. I don’t just pull down. I pull down and do little circles if that makes sense. It helps with the shake a bit
@@sternwardboss only thought that worked in Apex, 4k hours of titanfall and I never knew
@@nightwing5740 It could only work in Apex. I do it out of habit now with Titanfall lol
Just tap fire it. Game changer
Everyone needs to start playing this game so we get 3
Late to the party, disagree on the Cold War. Great weapon if you maintain verticality.
Cold War mains are unstoppable I’ll give you that
Are you gonna do a Titan weapon tier list and a granade tier list?? 🧐
I might do a Titan weapon Tier list but the grenade? probably not. It’s only going to be 2 minutes long 😂
@@sternwardboss lol alr then
DMR was always one of my favorites, on both TF1 and TF2. Odd to put the Wingman in A tier and not the DMR. The G2A was probably my fav in TF1 and still is fantastic... better than the DMR for medium to long range.
Ya G2 is insane I’ll give you that. I’m just not into semi auto guns in this game for some reason
Justice for my mastif mains
Just built my first pc and im definitely miss this game. I've been playing Apex week 1, and im tired of it. Man, i miss this game...... purchase ❤
Welcome back Pilot🫡
I dont know qhy but i loved the doubletake since i first touched it
It’s definitely satisfying too use I’ll give you that
This is a fun video to watch of a more average player’s pov from what I am seeing gameplay wise. A lot of what I am seeing struggle wise from you is straight up basic movement mechanics if you want something to work on for bettering yourself. Great content for people getting into the game at the moment that want a decent feel for more grounded play relevance of weapons.
Average player? Ok bud
I am just saying that based off the clips that you supplied for the video not trying to offend anyone. There is a lot of fairly static play and most of the people you are shooting at aren’t even reacting by the time you kill them, but it is just snippets of gameplay not the bigger picture.
@@ThatAngryJho-td3xe Static play? Did you even watch the video? Lol
Yes, yes I did. Sorry that I poked through your thin skin with attempting to give some constructive criticism that you would do better if you improved your movement on a public forum about your thoughts and experiences. From my point of view in the video you are fairly static in a lot of situations. As you know all shooters and your potential in them are based off you awareness, accuracy and ability to use movement to take advantage of those two things. I feel like I am watching a person that is generally a good amount above average in most shooters with aim and awareness but you aren’t quite taking advantage of basic movement mechanics and relying more and positioning and a half understanding of some more advanced mechanics to get you kills. It isn’t like what you are doing is wrong, but you do have a lot of room you can grow in the game from what I saw as far as movement.
Thin skin? Lol bro you’re blind if you think my gameplay is “Static” ya with certain guns i play more “static” but that’s by choice not because I don’t know how to fly. You act like I’m camping in spawn with a shield and Spitfire 😂. I’m guessing you’re probably one of those guys who Stims and is constantly in the air. That’s fine that’s your play style. I like to fly but I also like to ground myself because guess what?? Most pilots are looking up for Pilots like yourself. I don’t like flying everywhere at all times. Here’s a “Static” “bad movement” clip for you 4:08. Here’s another “bad movement” clip for you as well with them “not noticing me” 4:30 . Here’s another “bad movement” “Enemies didn’t notice me” clip 5:37. Here’s another “static” enemies not noticing me clip 7:11. Bro I ain’t the best in the game but to say I have bad movement is insane. I’m top scoreboard almost every game lol
It seems like everything has potential if the player knows how to use it. It's a sign that Titanfall is fairly balanced, it's not perfect, but you have potential to win fights no matter what you use. Some take more skill than others and the that's perfectly fine for veteran players. AR's and SMG's have just as much potential, but they are much easier to use, making them great for new players. I'll take this over COD or Apex any day.
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Sooo...little old TF2 'meta' play...the Alternator isn't really a sub machine, more of a tap gun, because when you tap it it has no recoil and takes down a pilot in three or four shots. FYI
@@dustinspencer7215 did not know that, thanks 💪🏼
SMR done absolutely dirty
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Its crazy how Ea stopped the support on this glorious game still so much fun 😤
I just noticed a couple days ago that they pretty much shut down the in game store. Most of the items say “No longer available” like why?
I still every now and then bought a skin 😂
I main the spitfire in frontier but I main smell for pvp gamemodes
As a mastiff main i do enjoy life
Gotta try to master it. It is fun to use
Personally, the alternator has to go mid/low S tier. Broken gun, I dominated an entire lobby with no time on the gun as a kraber player.
Speaking of, the kraber is probably B tier. The enemy team will tell you to touch grass when your aim is popping, but you’ll always have some really off games. It shreds, but consistency is a problem.
I learned the softball for a while. The gun is monstrous. It’s still a C or D tier though, because you have to play a specific way and it’s unforgiving to learn/screw up.
The volt in my opinion should be lower. Great weapon, but it’s just obsolete when compared to the legendary car, alternator, flatline, or even the r97. It can’t compete with weapons just like it, because they are simply more powerful
Just my two cents
I think all the rapid movement mechanics like wall run and slide should be behind certain perks to a degree. Hear me out! If chosen it causes you to sacrifice other great perks. This would force a good percentage of players to stop using the super fast agressive playstyle that is the meta. In turn making all the abilities that aren't graple or stim mich more feasible to play with. Combine this with a broader mix of map design to include some open long range maps, maps with entire quaters that titans cant even shoot into, or areas with no way for wall running and you'll allow for more playstyles.
For example: all players can wall run and slide by default etc but its only with a certain perk combination that you gain the acceleration and extra wall run/slide disrance that is currently standard.
This way run and gun mayhem will still be just as feasible but so will all the abilities and weapons that are currently useless.
Holo, A wall, cloak, LMG, sniper rifles/DMR, some assault rifles, regular grenades,
I completely disagree. I see your point but let’s say the next game did what you suggested? The entire TF community would NOT be happy about it myself included. I don’t want to be limited. I don’t want my wings clipped lol
Titanfall is an aggressive movement shooter. Doesn’t need to be complicated
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It wouldn't be limited, the changes I described would allow for what we have now and more. What I'm suggesting would serve TFs current fan base and bring in more.
It's not all about movement, that's inaccurate, titans aren't all about movement, infact some like tone with its shield are about positing well and staying there. Some abilities like A wall are about defensive strategies.
If you want it to be only about movement the ok fine. Get rid of the useless classes and weapons or find a way to fix them or somthing to replace them with. But that will result in all the classes and weapons performing virtually the same, which is boring, shutting out a larger audience. Currently there are two viable classes and 3.5 categories of weapons that are useful. It's so disappointing to see all these cool gadgets and weapons only to find out 70% sucks!
I don't think the entire community would be unhappy. But I don't like to speak for other people.
@sternwardboss Titanfall is also about: scifi, shooting, strategy, pvp, pve, level grinding, rng loot and much more.
It's clear as day to me that Titanfall isn't successful because of its movement. What make Titanfall so good is that it takes the best aspects of so many games and combines them into what is, in concept, the perfect game. The special forces vibes of ghost recon combined with the jet fighter pilot fantasy. The gorgeous armour and weapons of halo. The dopamine spike of moving through a world in mirrors edge. The PVE and PVP combined multilayer better than most MMOs! Lore worthy of a star wars reboot. The outright obsurdety of Warhammer drop pods.
Respawn formed from people fed up of call of duty representativeness BECOMING BORING. The same thing every year, so desperate to be more of the same.
How can you not see that the Titanfall concept was to broad and so compete, and you call yourself a Titanfall fan? Like any piece of art it got things right and messed up others. They got the movement right, but they messed up a lot of ballence.
I want to see the true Titanfall concept become real. I've had games that are just more of the same and they all suck 3, 4 or 5 instalments in.
Double Take is my favorite shotgun
Lol
EPG in B tier is criminal, respectfully.
It’s just based off my experiences with it. Every weapon in this game is A/S tier in the right hands
@@sternwardboss Nah lol it's all personal preference for sure. Like im a God with EPG but i can't for the life of me get good with the Wingman Elite. I feel like outside of the Car and the Spitty, all of the guns are pretty well balanced. I love seeing random pilots rocking something like a Double Take or even the Mastiff, weapon variety from pilot to pilot keeps the game fresh and i prefer it instead of the usual Car/Spitty Meta.
Can you do pilot abilities next
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My go to weapons are: CAR and EPG, beast weapons
Agreed! EPG is pure satisfaction
My opinion (console)-
S Tier:
CAR, Volt, Alternator, R97, R101, Spitfire
A Tier:
R201, Eva 8, G2, Flatline
B Tier:
Hemlock, Kraber, Wingman Elite, Mozambique, EPG, L-Star, Devotion
C Tier:
Mastiff, DMR, SMR, Cold War, Softball
D Tier:
Double Take
Solid list💪🏼
Devotion in C tier is criminal
For aggressive play it absolutely is
"Car-Bean"😂
Both pronunciations are correct ;)
good video, but BRUH, i do wonderful kill using the Duble Take, it's broken, for me it's in the S tier
To be fair I’ve barely used it lol
I play that game in 2016,16,17. But the hacker make it unplayable. Anyone knows uts better now?
Respawn finally fixed it 8 months ago. Jump back in Pilot!
Carbeen? It’s carbine
Ok?
Personally my top three guns are ( primary only) R-201 car and kraber
Solid choices
Are you using controller?
Yes:)
I like the Spitfire but it’s an A Tier for Me
there's nothing wrong with your list different people have different tastes and preferences :3
@@nickmaster512 wait what? Are you sure? 😂
@@sternwardboss positive and it would be cool to see the weapons used by the titans :3