"Imagine, the worst thing you think about yourself, and how do you feel if the one person that you trusted the most in the world not only thinks them too, but actually uses them as the reasons not to be with you" best Rachel line
@ishukumar4208 no, not at all It isnt a fct. If you had587teyoyrsekf, how in the world do you expect other ppl not to? You are giving them reasons to do it since you, yourself do it. Ofc nobody will want to be with you.
That is a pretty messed up stuff. If you ha567te yourself, how do you expect anyone in the world not to? How do you expect ppl to believe you are wor8s8thy if you know you arent. You will always be right, so you arent wo9s7r7th anything. Ppl jknow ot.
I understand how Rachel feels that is what my Ex did to me when he left me, and not only did he use them against me, he also used them as reasons not to be with me😢💔
Yeah my ex made sure to list all the reasons i sucked as a human. Loudly as I sobbed. That was 21 years ago. I still remember all the reasons he listed.
Ross was also stupid for asking Chandler for relationship advice, when Chandler has shown that he couldn’t hold a steady relationship, and had a fear of commitment
@@bricktam what matters is your hypocrisy because Ross is bad because 'of the list' but Chandler who literally proposed it and whose idea it was, only gets excuses and never any heat, right? this alone shows your agenda and bias.
Chandler did Joey dirty when he blamed/pointed every wrong doings on Joey just to hide his relationship with Monica, what happened when everybody found out? He overlooked Joey's sacrifices and sufferings just to hide his secret. Now his done it again on Ross and he's still left unscathed?? what a "friend" indeed. p.s. I know it's just a show but this scenarios do happened in real life and it's kinda fcked up
@lordalessan bunch of lies. Ross supported Rachel as an independent woman all show, and since the start. And Rachel didn't reject Mark - she went out with him once. you have no idea what you are talking about. This scene was only written for comedy. 1. The list wasn't even Ross's idea in the first place, it was Chandler's idea. 2. Ross NEVER said Rachel has chubby ankles, Joey actually did say this, and Chandler put it on the list, still don't understand why 3. 'just a waitress' wasn't an insult, it was a simple truth. Julie was hardworking and worked hard to achieve academic excellence in her field, and career, and Rachel was spoiled and lazy despite having rich parents and all the privileges, so yes, Rachel was just a waitress, and it was not Ross or anyone else's fault! Also, Rachel puts down Ross and mocks his job literally for the entire show, just like the rest of the gang, yet you don't hate them for that, or complain about it, right? Hypocrite. 4. It was NEVER serious anyway, it was just a stupid thing Chandler proposed. Ross loved Rachel, period. And the whole scene was written only for comedy's sake, as this is a sitcom, take a pill!
I always hated this episode, because you want Ross and Rachel to be together, but they fail everytime. First with Paolo, then her ex Barry and Ross new girlfriend Julie and then they finally kiss at the cafe and shortly after that this happens and it annoys me everytime haha. But its a great scene.
@krystalvideos Nah, Joey was actually a cruel womanizer who never called after a one-night stand, who constantly, for the entire show brags how he never calls or breaks up with girls via phone call, and who gaslights women all the time. he was awful to all women, and way worse than Ross but it isn't front and center on the show, so people ignore it.
What I hate about this is that in the aftermath of their relationship, Ross does in fact use these cons against her. He didn't think he could trust her to be around guys like Mark, belittled her and insulted her any chance he got, called her reckless and irresponsible when she has proven otherwise, and taunted her for thinking she can make it on her own as a single mom. Meanwhile, all of the friends have addressed how much she grew. Yes Rachel is flawed, everyone is, and she knows how she is and it's sad that of all people, Ross never gave her credit for her growth until the end when he lets her go to Paris.
Because Mark had a crush on her, gave her a job for that reason and similar events happened with Carol who ended up cheating on him. It's reasonable why any man would be worried. Did she trust him when he had a playdate with a stripper?
@@rajs6834 Yes Mark had a crush on her. He didn't trust her to reject Mark, brought him up endlessly, showed up to her work unannounced and wreaked havoc, refused to apologize, belittled her job. Yes she was jealous of the stripper but Ross expected her to trust him, and later expected Emily to trust him around Rachel, but he couldn't return the favor to the women he was with.
@@bricktam bunch of lies. Ross supported Rachel as an independent women all show, and since the start. And Rachel didn't reject Mark - she went out with him once. you have no idea what you are talking about. this scene was only written for comedy. 1. The list wasn't even Ross's idea in the first place, it was Chandler's idea. 2. Ross NEVER said Rachel has chubby ankles, Joey actually did say this, and Chandler put it on the list, still don't understand why 3. 'just a waitress' wasn't an insult, it was a simple truth. Julie was hardworking and worked hard to achieve academic excellence in her field, and career, and Rachel was spoiled and lazy despite having rich parents and all the privileges, so yes, Rachel was just a waitress, and it was not Ross' or anyone else's fault! Also, Rachel puts down Ross and mocks his job literally for the entire show, just like the rest of the gang, yet you don't hate them for that, or complain about it, right? Hypocrite. 4. It was NEVER serious anyway, it was just a stupid thing Chandler opposed. Ross loved Rachel, period. And the whole scene was written only for comedy sake, as this is a sitcom, take a pill!
you literally wrote lies here. Ross NEVER belittled her, it was literally the other way around. Rachel mocked Ross's job, his love life, and everything 24/7 on this show. did you forget this? god, you are such a pathetic Rachel propagandist in all of these comments! you literally lie! if you rewatch the show, you literally find Rachel mocking Ross all the time, and Ross supporting Rachel all the time, Ross literally said Rachel would be amazing mom already in the hospital, you lie! And you of course forgive Rachel for everything toxic she did to ross but you never forgive Ross, 'oh Rachel is flawed, everybody is' but it doesn't apply to Ross, right? So you can hate on him?
the list was Chandler's awful idea in the first place, not Ross's but Chandler never gets any heat for it. Chandler wrote 'chubby ankles' which was what Joey said, not Ross. And it was never a serious thing in the first place. Rachel gets upset because of ' just the waitress', yet first, it is the truth, compared to Julie who worked hard, Rachel was lazy and privileged and was just a waitress, Julie worked hard for her career, and Rachel keeps mocking Ross's job for the entire show. Hypocrite fandom. and Ross never cheated on her - she broke up with him, period
But she DOES make a list. Sure on Ross's insistence, but she does. So her saying she'd never make a list is a lie. Also it's her own fault that she can't accept her flaws, while Ross clearly can!
Rachel talked to nobody about the flaws he stated on that list. then she quits her job, got a new one she actually likes, and became more independent. Rachel made a list, because Ross wouldn't leave her alone until she did, and he spends the entire episode annoying Monica and her guests to get their validation. he even spent a lot of money just to prove a point to Rachel. and all this happened in only one episode.
Rachel was an awful, horrible person and the worst character on the show, and deserved all the bad that happened to her and more! Period! Here, she displays her typical egoism and entitlement! She was awfully jealous of every single girl who got close to Ross, ruined all his relationships, and was way more toxic to him than he was to her. Rachel gave Ross and Julie bad sex advice to break them up, called Julie ugly slurs behind her back, wanted to ruin her appearance so she gave Phoebe false instructions on how to ruin Julie's hair, and finally, Rachel had no problem kissing Ross when he was with Julie, so clearly cheating was not a problem when the guy was cheating with her lol Rachel also insulted Bonnie behind her back even tho she didn't know her, and ruined Bonnie's appearance just like she did with Julie, but what is worse, and never talked about in the context of Bonnie's and Ross' relationship, is how Rachel started openly flirting with Ross in the beach house! When Monica actually was the one showing concern about how Rachel could behave awfully this way, Rachel admitted to Monica in the beach house that she doesn't care if Bonnie is Ross' current girlfriend, she had the whole plan to get him back! Yet Rachel was the one who literally broke up with him! Then she right away got together with Mark, Ross called drunk from the bar and heard Mark on the phone in Rachel's apartment. Right after Chloe appeared, took advantage of drunk Ross, so Ross never cheated and had every reason to be angry, but Rachel actually had zero problem with destroying the relationships of other people and cheating! And it's a zero problem for her fans too but oh, suddenly Rachel is a poor victim who was cheated on when she broke up with Ross - period; and he was drunk. These fans are pathetic, just as Rachel was, and especially Rachel's female feminist fans, who never talk about how horribly she treated other women on the show, and how she had no problem with cheating but they cry about how Ross ' cheated on her'. She was crazy possessive towards Ross, all the things that she did to Julie, Bonnie, Emily, the girl from the shop - the list goes on and on. She lied, and she tricked Ross into marrying her in Vegas, it was her idea, but she blamed it all on Ross! She sexually harassed Tag during his first job interview, she lied to her father about Ross not wanting to marry her when she told him about the pregnancy, and yet the truth was the opposite: Ross literally proposed the marriage to her in the hospital the first day she told him about her pregnancy, and she rejected the offer. As a result of these lies, Rachel's dad almost ruined Ross' relationship with Mona! Ross, on his part, was literally just worried about Mark, and turns out, he was dead on about Mark! This is why the Hugh Laurie scene on the plane is my favorite moment on Friends ever -finally, someone actually told the truth about the insufferable, spoiled, hypocritical narcissist that Rachel always was, and to her face! She was by far the worst, most toxic, most hypocritical character on this show! And her fans are all these things too. Ross deserved so so much better!
Deserved all the bad that happened to her?! The only bad things that happened to her were Ross making the list, his jealousy, him sleeping with that chick bc "they were on a break". Then he didn't even read the letter, got angry and thought that he can just move on and be happy with someone else 🤣😂 no way... he humiliated himself when he said the wrong name at the wedding, got 3 divorces and 2 kids with different women, ALL his relationships ended and that was fun, I laughed so much while watching his dates and break ups... "Ross deserved so much better" You kidding? He got exactly what he deserved after the 3rd season. The writers did a good job and I just LOVE that and Schwimmer's acting was 💯 Ross's life was a mess after he destroyed his relationship with Rachel. MY FAVORITE moment was when Ross saw Rachel and Joey kissing and then there was that episode where Ross was FINE 😂 Joey almost became his daughter's step father, I loved that 😄 Of course Rachel is an amazing character, guys loved her and women wanted to be like her. Even Ross BEGGED her to take him back when he realized he can't live without her. She's the best!
@ lol I’m sure she was positively thrilled when she was: -Turned down from a job she really wanted -Discovered Paolo cheated on her -Didn’t get to Ross first and lost him to Julie -Didn’t get the promotion she hoped for -Got dumped when she recklessly asked a guy going through a divorce to marry her -Got thrown out of her apartment when Chandler moved in -Burned down Phoebe’s apartment -Got knocked up -Got exposed as a liar when she said Ross came onto her -Got rejected by a soap opera actor for being pregnant -Got fired from her job If you don’t like Ross fine but this is pure fanfiction to think Ross is the cause of everything bad that happened to her in the show. She did more harm to him than he did her Plus, Charlie was closer to being Emma’s stepmom than Joey was to being Emma’s stepdad. They didn’t even last for five episodes and barely lasted three lol
whats wrong with making a list when u cant decide who u wanna be with? Everyone does it in their head when theyre dating two people and cant decide who they prefer.....whats the difference between thinking it in your head vs writing it down to structure your thoughts?
Maybe the way Ross describe Rachels flaws, I think Like he couldve wrote "waitress" but instead went "JUST a waitress" Also he wants to be with her despite her flaws rather than be with her just as she is, with rights and wrongs, faults and all 😯😥
well i mean ross has the right to make a list but you can’t really blame rachel for being mad because those are literally all of her insecurities he’s pointing out
@@smitherin71 so what? If you’re gonna ask the question “why don’t you wanna be with me ? “ at some point , then you gotta be prepared to hear the answer
@ssmj4993 NOPE, it was Joey. Ross had a lot of successful relationships and then he met new people, which was basically dating, like any young person who is trying to find their other half in life, and that's literally what the show was about, and literally everyone in the Friends gang did the same. And Ross's marriage to Carol broke up not because of Ross, but because of her - it was she who cheated on him and she turned out to be a lesbian, not Ross. So the cause wasn't Ross. You are that one troll and hater full of venom and hatred who hates Ross in every video. Ross got back together with Rachel at the end, and the creators and writers of the show, as well as the actors, said that Ross and Rachel are forever together. So.. cry more, cope! Do you know who NEVER built a lasting relationship on Friends? Awful womanizer, d00mb loser Joey!! 😂😆😆
People don’t get it was Rachel’s fault this all happened because if she wouldn’t have told Ross she loved him, he would still be happy with Julie and have a cat
I LOVE friends but I don't like Ross and I especially hate "Ross + Rachel". Rachel can do so much better. I wish he ended up with someone else and she ended up with someone else maybe even Joey cause he is such a sweetheart. Either way she should of stayed on the plane.
True Ross didn't love her as much as she does.he made fun of career ,not supportive of it, cheated on her and didn't even want to stop her until Phoebe's insistence
Nah, Joey was actually a cruel womanizer who never called after a one-night stand, who constantly, for the entire show brags how he never calls or breaks up with girls via phone call, and who gaslights women all the time. he was awful to all women, and way worse than Ross but it isn't front and center on the show, so people ignore it. Rachel was an awful, horrible person and the worst character on the show, and deserved all the bad that happened to her and more! Period! Here, she displays her typical egoism and entitlement! She was awfully jealous of every single girl who got close to Ross, ruined all his relationships, and was way more toxic to him than he was to her. Rachel gave Ross and Julie bad sex advice to break them up, called Julie ugly slurs behind her back, wanted to ruin her appearance so she gave Phoebe false instructions on how to ruin Julie's hair, and finally, Rachel had no problem kissing Ross when he was with Julie, so clearly cheating was not a problem when the guy was cheating with her lol Rachel also insulted Bonnie behind her back even tho she didn't know her, and ruined Bonnie's appearance just like she did with Julie, but what is worse, and never talked about in the context of Bonnie's and Ross' relationship, is how Rachel started openly flirting with Ross in the beach house! When Monica actually was the one showing concern about how Rachel could behave awfully this way, Rachel admitted to Monica in the beach house that she doesn't care if Bonnie is Ross' current girlfriend, she had the whole plan to get him back! Yet Rachel was the one who literally broke up with him! Then she right away got together with Mark, Ross called drunk from the bar and heard Mark on the phone in Rachel's apartment. Right after Chloe appeared, took advantage of drunk Ross, so Ross never cheated and had every reason to be angry, but Rachel actually had zero problem with destroying the relationships of other people and cheating! And it's a zero problem for her fans too but oh, suddenly Rachel is a poor victim who was cheated on when she broke up with Ross - period; and he was drunk. These fans are pathetic, just as Rachel was, and especially Rachel's female feminist fans, who never talk about how horribly she treated other women on the show, and how she had no problem with cheating but they cry about how Ross ' cheated on her'. She was crazy possessive towards Ross, all the things that she did to Julie, Bonnie, Emily, the girl from the shop - the list goes on and on. She lied, and she tricked Ross into marrying her in Vegas, it was her idea, but she blamed it all on Ross! She sexually harassed Tag during his first job interview, she lied to her father about Ross not wanting to marry her when she told him about the pregnancy, and yet the truth was the opposite: Ross literally proposed the marriage to her in the hospital the first day she told him about her pregnancy, and she rejected the offer. As a result of these lies, Rachel's dad almost ruined Ross' relationship with Mona! Ross, on his part, was literally just worried about Mark, and turns out, he was dead on about Mark! This is why the Hugh Laurie scene on the plane is my favorite moment on Friends ever -finally, someone actually told the truth about the insufferable, spoiled, hypocritical narcissist that Rachel always was, and to her face! She was by far the worst, most toxic, most hypocritical character on this show! And her fans are all these things too. Ross deserved so so much better!
let me get this straight, called her just a waitress, got overly possessive and showed up at her Bloomingdale's job despite knowing she was too busy working, then wanted her to give up her amazing job offer in the end. absolutely not. she should've ended up with anyone else, even Joey idc.
lol your lies are hilarious! but whatever makes you happy, since you are a deluded Joey&Rachel fan. First of all, both Matt&Jen hated Joey&Rachel storyline, and the creators said it was never serious& never meant to last, and it couldn't, because Joey and Rachel hardly interacted with each other till season 6 of the show, and they NEVER felt anything romantic til this cringe, out of nowhere storyline in season 8. It was out of nowhere, not organic nonsense & it didn't go anywhere even when they tried to be together in season 10 - Rachel literally hit Joey every time he tried to start sex, and they didn't even manage to have sex once! Joey was also a cruel womanizer who never called after a one-night stand, who constantly, for the entire show brags how he never calls or breaks up with girls via phone call, and who gaslights women all the time. he was awful to all women, and way worse than Ross but it isn't front and center on the show, so people ignore it. And Rachel was the toxic one who ruined Ross's life all the time, not Ross! Rachel gave Ross and Julie bad sex advice to break them up, called Julie ugly slurs behind her back, wanted to ruin her appearance so she gave Phoebe false instructions on how to ruin Julie's hair, and finally, Rachel had no problem kissing Ross when he was with Julie, so clearly cheating was not a problem when the guy was cheating with her lol Rachel's fans are pathetic, just as Rachel was, and especially Rachel's female feminist fans, who never talk about how horribly she treated other women on the show, and how she had no problem with cheating but they cry about how Ross ' cheated on her'. She was crazy possessive towards Ross; all the things that she did to Julie, Bonnie, Emily, the girl from the shop - the list goes on and on. She lied, and she tricked Ross into marrying her in Vegas, it was her idea, but she blamed it all on Ross! Rachel insulted Bonnie behind her back even tho she didn't know her, and ruined Bonnie's appearance just like she did with Julie, but what is worse, and never talked about in the context of Bonnie's and Ross' relationship, is how Rachel started openly flirting with Ross in the beach house! When Monica actually was the one showing concern about how Rachel could behave awfully this way, Rachel admitted to Monica in the beach house that she didn't care if Bonnie was Ross' current girlfriend, she had the whole plan to get him back! I remember the season 7 episode where Rachel has a crush on her assistant Tag and wants to sleep with him because she found out Tag had just broken up with his girlfriend. There's a scene where Rachel asks Monica and Phoebe when it's okay to sleep with a guy who is fresh after a breakup, and Phoebe replies that she once did it an hour after a guy broke up with his ex, and Monica, Rachel, and Phoebe all laugh, and it's cool. So they literally describe the situation that was between Ross and Rachel and Chloe, and yet they don't consider it cheating and Rachel wants to do it. And people DARE to write that Ross was in the wrong. No, it all proves that Rachel was an insufferable hypocrite. Ross openly and honestly told Rachel about his concerns about Mark - and it turned out later that Ross was right, Mark wanted to date Rachel and was romantically interested in her. Also, Ross loved Rachel more than his life, but he was already traumatized by Carol, who was his wife, not a girlfriend, but a wife - and she betrayed him! Rachel had zero empathy for Ross and didn't understand that his fear and jealousy stemmed from trauma. Rachel was the one who literally broke up with him! Then she right away got together with Mark, Ross called drunk from the bar and heard Mark on the phone in Rachel's apartment. Right after Chloe appeared, took advantage of drunk Ross, so Ross never cheated and had every reason to be angry, but Rachel actually had zero problem with destroying the relationships of other people and cheating! And it's a zero problem for her fans too but oh, suddenly Rachel is a poor victim who was cheated on when she broke up with Ross - period; and he was drunk. She sexually harassed Tag during his first job interview, and she lied to her father about Ross not wanting to marry her when she told him about the pregnancy, and yet the truth was the opposite: Ross literally proposed the marriage to her in the hospital the first day she told him about her pregnancy, and she rejected the offer. As a result of these lies, Rachel's dad almost ruined Ross' relationship with Mona! Ross, on his part, was literally just worried about Mark, and turns out, he was dead on about Mark! This is why the Hugh Laurie scene on the plane is my favorite moment on Friends ever -finally, someone actually told the truth about the insufferable, spoiled, hypocritical narcissist that Rachel always was, and to her face! She was by far the worst, most toxic, most hypocritical character on this show! And her fans are all these things too. Ross deserved so much better!
What do men have to offer thou? 😂 50% of them are incels, 30% of them are men child, 10% are closeted gays, not to mention men like you are pretty much a lost cause 😂.
"Imagine, the worst thing you think about yourself, and how do you feel if the one person that you trusted the most in the world not only thinks them too, but actually uses them as the reasons not to be with you" best Rachel line
That's a fact, may be you wanna correct them
@ishukumar4208 no, not at all
It isnt a fct. If you had587teyoyrsekf, how in the world do you expect other ppl not to? You are giving them reasons to do it since you, yourself do it. Ofc nobody will want to be with you.
That is a pretty messed up stuff. If you ha567te yourself, how do you expect anyone in the world not to? How do you expect ppl to believe you are wor8s8thy if you know you arent. You will always be right, so you arent wo9s7r7th anything. Ppl jknow ot.
@@holi-rx7gu What's up with your keyboard?
I LOOOVEDDD Phoebe's raincoat....
2:51 just wanted to direct everyone's attention to phoebe's raincoat, it's so cuteeee
Yes, it was Chandler's idea but Ross chose to go through with it.
“That’s the difference between us. I’d never make a list.”
"You got to give me another chance."
So typical Ross. He's the one that screwed up and yet he makes demands.
This was totally on Ross...
Shut up.
it was chandler's fault lol
@@moatezmoussi9751but Ross went through with it he didn't back away
@@moatezmoussi9751so it's on both of them but mostly Ross
Ross said all those things.he actually said things that even she didn't know was a problem and used it against her.Chandler was just a messenger.
I understand how Rachel feels that is what my Ex did to me when he left me, and not only did he use them against me, he also used them as reasons not to be with me😢💔
I can treat you much better than him! I’m single!
Yeah my ex made sure to list all the reasons i sucked as a human. Loudly as I sobbed. That was 21 years ago. I still remember all the reasons he listed.
Another thing you get from this is take with a grain of salt what your friends advice you to do (cuz the list was Chandler's idea)
I SAID DON'T GO ..
(Quietly going back)
The way Rachel said this proved that she is not a pushover😂
Monica promoting mocklate 🤣🤣
This wasn’t the first time Chandler’s bad ideas got his friends into trouble
The idea wasn't bad. The execution was sloppy and confidentiality was nonexistent.
Also Ross is terrible at explaining himself.
Ross was also stupid for asking Chandler for relationship advice, when Chandler has shown that he couldn’t hold a steady relationship, and had a fear of commitment
@@katrolinka89 because it's a sitcom and it is written like this on purpose, if that makes you mad stop watching sitcoms!
@@bricktam what matters is your hypocrisy because Ross is bad because 'of the list' but Chandler who literally proposed it and whose idea it was, only gets excuses and never any heat, right? this alone shows your agenda and bias.
1:33 to 2:36 (ignore this its for an animation)
Chandler did Joey dirty when he blamed/pointed every wrong doings on Joey just to hide his relationship with Monica, what happened when everybody found out? He overlooked Joey's sacrifices and sufferings just to hide his secret. Now his done it again on Ross and he's still left unscathed?? what a "friend" indeed.
p.s. I know it's just a show but this scenarios do happened in real life and it's kinda fcked up
1:33-2:36 Imagine 💔
If anyone has two (or more) choices for a mate, he/she invariably makes a list (although it's almost never a written one).
But what about write a letter with 18 pages...😊
FRONT AND BACK!!
Apparently there is something she could write that could make him not want her 😂
@lordalessan bunch of lies. Ross supported Rachel as an independent woman all show, and since the start. And Rachel didn't reject Mark - she went out with him once. you have no idea what you are talking about. This scene was only written for comedy. 1. The list wasn't even Ross's idea in the first place, it was Chandler's idea. 2. Ross NEVER said Rachel has chubby ankles, Joey actually did say this, and Chandler put it on the list, still don't understand why 3. 'just a waitress' wasn't an insult, it was a simple truth. Julie was hardworking and worked hard to achieve academic excellence in her field, and career, and Rachel was spoiled and lazy despite having rich parents and all the privileges, so yes, Rachel was just a waitress, and it was not Ross or anyone else's fault! Also, Rachel puts down Ross and mocks his job literally for the entire show, just like the rest of the gang, yet you don't hate them for that, or complain about it, right? Hypocrite. 4. It was NEVER serious anyway, it was just a stupid thing Chandler proposed. Ross loved Rachel, period. And the whole scene was written only for comedy's sake, as this is a sitcom, take a pill!
It would take another five episodes for Ross and Rachel to get together.
I always hated this episode, because you want Ross and Rachel to be together, but they fail everytime. First with Paolo, then her ex Barry and Ross new girlfriend Julie and then they finally kiss at the cafe and shortly after that this happens and it annoys me everytime haha. But its a great scene.
Ross was never good though....
the pros and cons list was fucked up
@krystalvideos Nah, Joey was actually a cruel womanizer who never called after a one-night stand, who constantly, for the entire show brags how he never calls or breaks up with girls via phone call, and who gaslights women all the time. he was awful to all women, and way worse than Ross but it isn't front and center on the show, so people ignore it.
everybody, it's fake .. its just acting .. fun stuff
What I hate about this is that in the aftermath of their relationship, Ross does in fact use these cons against her. He didn't think he could trust her to be around guys like Mark, belittled her and insulted her any chance he got, called her reckless and irresponsible when she has proven otherwise, and taunted her for thinking she can make it on her own as a single mom. Meanwhile, all of the friends have addressed how much she grew. Yes Rachel is flawed, everyone is, and she knows how she is and it's sad that of all people, Ross never gave her credit for her growth until the end when he lets her go to Paris.
Because Mark had a crush on her, gave her a job for that reason and similar events happened with Carol who ended up cheating on him. It's reasonable why any man would be worried.
Did she trust him when he had a playdate with a stripper?
@@rajs6834 Yes Mark had a crush on her. He didn't trust her to reject Mark, brought him up endlessly, showed up to her work unannounced and wreaked havoc, refused to apologize, belittled her job. Yes she was jealous of the stripper but Ross expected her to trust him, and later expected Emily to trust him around Rachel, but he couldn't return the favor to the women he was with.
@@bricktam bunch of lies. Ross supported Rachel as an independent women all show, and since the start. And Rachel didn't reject Mark - she went out with him once. you have no idea what you are talking about. this scene was only written for comedy. 1. The list wasn't even Ross's idea in the first place, it was Chandler's idea. 2. Ross NEVER said Rachel has chubby ankles, Joey actually did say this, and Chandler put it on the list, still don't understand why 3. 'just a waitress' wasn't an insult, it was a simple truth. Julie was hardworking and worked hard to achieve academic excellence in her field, and career, and Rachel was spoiled and lazy despite having rich parents and all the privileges, so yes, Rachel was just a waitress, and it was not Ross' or anyone else's fault! Also, Rachel puts down Ross and mocks his job literally for the entire show, just like the rest of the gang, yet you don't hate them for that, or complain about it, right? Hypocrite. 4. It was NEVER serious anyway, it was just a stupid thing Chandler opposed. Ross loved Rachel, period. And the whole scene was written only for comedy sake, as this is a sitcom, take a pill!
you literally wrote lies here. Ross NEVER belittled her, it was literally the other way around. Rachel mocked Ross's job, his love life, and everything 24/7 on this show. did you forget this? god, you are such a pathetic Rachel propagandist in all of these comments! you literally lie! if you rewatch the show, you literally find Rachel mocking Ross all the time, and Ross supporting Rachel all the time, Ross literally said Rachel would be amazing mom already in the hospital, you lie! And you of course forgive Rachel for everything toxic she did to ross but you never forgive Ross, 'oh Rachel is flawed, everybody is' but it doesn't apply to Ross, right? So you can hate on him?
@@rajs6834 see , Mark wasn't the one who jumped onto another girl the moment they had a break . Mark wasn't the one who tempted Rachel to cheat .
Does it?
the list was Chandler's awful idea in the first place, not Ross's but Chandler never gets any heat for it. Chandler wrote 'chubby ankles' which was what Joey said, not Ross. And it was never a serious thing in the first place. Rachel gets upset because of ' just the waitress', yet first, it is the truth, compared to Julie who worked hard, Rachel was lazy and privileged and was just a waitress, Julie worked hard for her career, and Rachel keeps mocking Ross's job for the entire show. Hypocrite fandom. and Ross never cheated on her - she broke up with him, period
early red flag that led to his cheating
Shut up.
True
He didn't cheat, they were on a break.
@@shrutimahant same thing
@@ShivangiSrivastava-yh8eenot same thing. A break means your guys are broken up.
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But she DOES make a list. Sure on Ross's insistence, but she does. So her saying she'd never make a list is a lie. Also it's her own fault that she can't accept her flaws, while Ross clearly can!
Point
But Ross said there is nothing she could put on a paper that would not make him want to be with her 😂. So they're both liars
Then may be ross shouldn't date such a faulty girl and stay away.. instead of rubbing her faults on her face.
Rachel talked to nobody about the flaws he stated on that list. then she quits her job, got a new one she actually likes, and became more independent.
Rachel made a list, because Ross wouldn't leave her alone until she did, and he spends the entire episode annoying Monica and her guests to get their validation. he even spent a lot of money just to prove a point to Rachel. and all this happened in only one episode.
Ross is a awful person, horrible character in general, worst one
Ross is not so good.
You are not so good.
@@joooanit0224ahhh shushh
@@Duskysky1 aaah shuuusshhh.
Simp isnt worth it
I hated this scenes…like pity Ross it’s enough that he broke up with Julie just to be with Rachel
Rachel was an awful, horrible person and the worst character on the show, and deserved all the bad that happened to her and more! Period! Here, she displays her typical egoism and entitlement! She was awfully jealous of every single girl who got close to Ross, ruined all his relationships, and was way more toxic to him than he was to her.
Rachel gave Ross and Julie bad sex advice to break them up, called Julie ugly slurs behind her back, wanted to ruin her appearance so she gave Phoebe false instructions on how to ruin Julie's hair, and finally, Rachel had no problem kissing Ross when he was with Julie, so clearly cheating was not a problem when the guy was cheating with her lol
Rachel also insulted Bonnie behind her back even tho she didn't know her, and ruined Bonnie's appearance just like she did with Julie, but what is worse, and never talked about in the context of Bonnie's and Ross' relationship, is how Rachel started openly flirting with Ross in the beach house! When Monica actually was the one showing concern about how Rachel could behave awfully this way, Rachel admitted to Monica in the beach house that she doesn't care if Bonnie is Ross' current girlfriend, she had the whole plan to get him back!
Yet Rachel was the one who literally broke up with him! Then she right away got together with Mark, Ross called drunk from the bar and heard Mark on the phone in Rachel's apartment. Right after Chloe appeared, took advantage of drunk Ross, so Ross never cheated and had every reason to be angry, but Rachel actually had zero problem with destroying the relationships of other people and cheating! And it's a zero problem for her fans too but oh, suddenly Rachel is a poor victim who was cheated on when she broke up with Ross - period; and he was drunk.
These fans are pathetic, just as Rachel was, and especially Rachel's female feminist fans, who never talk about how horribly she treated other women on the show, and how she had no problem with cheating but they cry about how Ross ' cheated on her'.
She was crazy possessive towards Ross, all the things that she did to Julie, Bonnie, Emily, the girl from the shop - the list goes on and on. She lied, and she tricked Ross into marrying her in Vegas, it was her idea, but she blamed it all on Ross!
She sexually harassed Tag during his first job interview, she lied to her father about Ross not wanting to marry her when she told him about the pregnancy, and yet the truth was the opposite: Ross literally proposed the marriage to her in the hospital the first day she told him about her pregnancy, and she rejected the offer. As a result of these lies, Rachel's dad almost ruined Ross' relationship with Mona!
Ross, on his part, was literally just worried about Mark, and turns out, he was dead on about Mark! This is why the Hugh Laurie scene on the plane is my favorite moment on Friends ever -finally, someone actually told the truth about the insufferable, spoiled, hypocritical narcissist that Rachel always was, and to her face! She was by far the worst, most toxic, most hypocritical character on this show! And her fans are all these things too. Ross deserved so so much better!
Deserved all the bad that happened to her?! The only bad things that happened to her were Ross making the list, his jealousy, him sleeping with that chick bc "they were on a break". Then he didn't even read the letter, got angry and thought that he can just move on and be happy with someone else 🤣😂 no way... he humiliated himself when he said the wrong name at the wedding, got 3 divorces and 2 kids with different women, ALL his relationships ended and that was fun, I laughed so much while watching his dates and break ups...
"Ross deserved so much better" You kidding? He got exactly what he deserved after the 3rd season. The writers did a good job and I just LOVE that and Schwimmer's acting was 💯 Ross's life was a mess after he destroyed his relationship with Rachel.
MY FAVORITE moment was when Ross saw Rachel and Joey kissing and then there was that episode where Ross was FINE 😂 Joey almost became his daughter's step father, I loved that 😄 Of course Rachel is an amazing character, guys loved her and women wanted to be like her. Even Ross BEGGED her to take him back when he realized he can't live without her. She's the best!
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I’m sure she was positively thrilled when she was:
-Turned down from a job she really wanted
-Discovered Paolo cheated on her
-Didn’t get to Ross first and lost him to Julie
-Didn’t get the promotion she hoped for
-Got dumped when she recklessly asked a guy going through a divorce to marry her
-Got thrown out of her apartment when Chandler moved in
-Burned down Phoebe’s apartment
-Got knocked up
-Got exposed as a liar when she said Ross came onto her
-Got rejected by a soap opera actor for being pregnant
-Got fired from her job
If you don’t like Ross fine but this is pure fanfiction to think Ross is the cause of everything bad that happened to her in the show. She did more harm to him than he did her
Plus, Charlie was closer to being Emma’s stepmom than Joey was to being Emma’s stepdad. They didn’t even last for five episodes and barely lasted three lol
whats wrong with making a list when u cant decide who u wanna be with? Everyone does it in their head when theyre dating two people and cant decide who they prefer.....whats the difference between thinking it in your head vs writing it down to structure your thoughts?
If she is his option than best is she opts out! No girl deserves to be someone's option.
Maybe the way Ross describe Rachels flaws, I think
Like he couldve wrote "waitress" but instead went "JUST a waitress"
Also he wants to be with her despite her flaws rather than be with her just as she is, with rights and wrongs, faults and all
😯😥
well i mean ross has the right to make a list but you can’t really blame rachel for being mad because those are literally all of her insecurities he’s pointing out
@@smitherin71 so what? If you’re gonna ask the question “why don’t you wanna be with me ? “ at some point , then you gotta be prepared to hear the answer
@@psps2034 I guess you’re right i mean she was waiting for Ross’ decision in this episode lol
ross is just not a type of guy who's capable of any successful relationship he'll always end up being dumped and single, loser...
True
@ssmj4993 NOPE, it was Joey. Ross had a lot of successful relationships and then he met new people, which was basically dating, like any young person who is trying to find their other half in life, and that's literally what the show was about, and literally everyone in the Friends gang did the same. And Ross's marriage to Carol broke up not because of Ross, but because of her - it was she who cheated on him and she turned out to be a lesbian, not Ross. So the cause wasn't Ross. You are that one troll and hater full of venom and hatred who hates Ross in every video. Ross got back together with Rachel at the end, and the creators and writers of the show, as well as the actors, said that Ross and Rachel are forever together. So.. cry more, cope! Do you know who NEVER built a lasting relationship on Friends? Awful womanizer, d00mb loser Joey!! 😂😆😆
@@NaticzkaKaminskaHenryDolphin Amen!
A loser Who dates the hottest girls in the show over 10 years....
I Guess you are George Cloney, right?
People don’t get it was Rachel’s fault this all happened because if she wouldn’t have told Ross she loved him, he would still be happy with Julie and have a cat
Joey made a list of cons. He only had "she made me change to lite mayo,".
nah, Joey was the one who said Rachel has chubby ankles
@@russelconor8704Yeah. But when he was in love with her Joey didn't see any flaws. He loved every part of her unlike Ross.
Stupid,just like i was with Kate😢
Mmp
I LOVE friends but I don't like Ross and I especially hate "Ross + Rachel". Rachel can do so much better. I wish he ended up with someone else and she ended up with someone else maybe even Joey cause he is such a sweetheart. Either way she should of stayed on the plane.
True Ross didn't love her as much as she does.he made fun of career ,not supportive of it, cheated on her and didn't even want to stop her until Phoebe's insistence
I remember how much I wanted for them to get together in the beginning, then by S4 I spent the rest of the time wishing they stayed apart!
She couldnt. Nobody ever loved her as much as Ross did.
nah, Ross deserved better
Nah, Joey was actually a cruel womanizer who never called after a one-night stand, who constantly, for the entire show brags how he never calls or breaks up with girls via phone call, and who gaslights women all the time. he was awful to all women, and way worse than Ross but it isn't front and center on the show, so people ignore it.
Rachel was an awful, horrible person and the worst character on the show, and deserved all the bad that happened to her and more! Period! Here, she displays her typical egoism and entitlement! She was awfully jealous of every single girl who got close to Ross, ruined all his relationships, and was way more toxic to him than he was to her.
Rachel gave Ross and Julie bad sex advice to break them up, called Julie ugly slurs behind her back, wanted to ruin her appearance so she gave Phoebe false instructions on how to ruin Julie's hair, and finally, Rachel had no problem kissing Ross when he was with Julie, so clearly cheating was not a problem when the guy was cheating with her lol
Rachel also insulted Bonnie behind her back even tho she didn't know her, and ruined Bonnie's appearance just like she did with Julie, but what is worse, and never talked about in the context of Bonnie's and Ross' relationship, is how Rachel started openly flirting with Ross in the beach house! When Monica actually was the one showing concern about how Rachel could behave awfully this way, Rachel admitted to Monica in the beach house that she doesn't care if Bonnie is Ross' current girlfriend, she had the whole plan to get him back!
Yet Rachel was the one who literally broke up with him! Then she right away got together with Mark, Ross called drunk from the bar and heard Mark on the phone in Rachel's apartment. Right after Chloe appeared, took advantage of drunk Ross, so Ross never cheated and had every reason to be angry, but Rachel actually had zero problem with destroying the relationships of other people and cheating! And it's a zero problem for her fans too but oh, suddenly Rachel is a poor victim who was cheated on when she broke up with Ross - period; and he was drunk.
These fans are pathetic, just as Rachel was, and especially Rachel's female feminist fans, who never talk about how horribly she treated other women on the show, and how she had no problem with cheating but they cry about how Ross ' cheated on her'.
She was crazy possessive towards Ross, all the things that she did to Julie, Bonnie, Emily, the girl from the shop - the list goes on and on. She lied, and she tricked Ross into marrying her in Vegas, it was her idea, but she blamed it all on Ross!
She sexually harassed Tag during his first job interview, she lied to her father about Ross not wanting to marry her when she told him about the pregnancy, and yet the truth was the opposite: Ross literally proposed the marriage to her in the hospital the first day she told him about her pregnancy, and she rejected the offer. As a result of these lies, Rachel's dad almost ruined Ross' relationship with Mona!
Ross, on his part, was literally just worried about Mark, and turns out, he was dead on about Mark! This is why the Hugh Laurie scene on the plane is my favorite moment on Friends ever -finally, someone actually told the truth about the insufferable, spoiled, hypocritical narcissist that Rachel always was, and to her face! She was by far the worst, most toxic, most hypocritical character on this show! And her fans are all these things too. Ross deserved so so much better!
let me get this straight, called her just a waitress, got overly possessive and showed up at her Bloomingdale's job despite knowing she was too busy working, then wanted her to give up her amazing job offer in the end. absolutely not. she should've ended up with anyone else, even Joey idc.
lol your lies are hilarious! but whatever makes you happy, since you are a deluded Joey&Rachel fan. First of all, both Matt&Jen hated Joey&Rachel storyline, and the creators said it was never serious& never meant to last, and it couldn't, because Joey and Rachel hardly interacted with each other till season 6 of the show, and they NEVER felt anything romantic til this cringe, out of nowhere storyline in season 8. It was out of nowhere, not organic nonsense & it didn't go anywhere even when they tried to be together in season 10 - Rachel literally hit Joey every time he tried to start sex, and they didn't even manage to have sex once! Joey was also a cruel womanizer who never called after a one-night stand, who constantly, for the entire show brags how he never calls or breaks up with girls via phone call, and who gaslights women all the time. he was awful to all women, and way worse than Ross but it isn't front and center on the show, so people ignore it.
And Rachel was the toxic one who ruined Ross's life all the time, not Ross! Rachel gave Ross and Julie bad sex advice to break them up, called Julie ugly slurs behind her back, wanted to ruin her appearance so she gave Phoebe false instructions on how to ruin Julie's hair, and finally, Rachel had no problem kissing Ross when he was with Julie, so clearly cheating was not a problem when the guy was cheating with her lol
Rachel's fans are pathetic, just as Rachel was, and especially Rachel's female feminist fans, who never talk about how horribly she treated other women on the show, and how she had no problem with cheating but they cry about how Ross ' cheated on her'.
She was crazy possessive towards Ross; all the things that she did to Julie, Bonnie, Emily, the girl from the shop - the list goes on and on. She lied, and she tricked Ross into marrying her in Vegas, it was her idea, but she blamed it all on Ross!
Rachel insulted Bonnie behind her back even tho she didn't know her, and ruined Bonnie's appearance just like she did with Julie, but what is worse, and never talked about in the context of Bonnie's and Ross' relationship, is how Rachel started openly flirting with Ross in the beach house! When Monica actually was the one showing concern about how Rachel could behave awfully this way, Rachel admitted to Monica in the beach house that she didn't care if Bonnie was Ross' current girlfriend, she had the whole plan to get him back!
I remember the season 7 episode where Rachel has a crush on her assistant Tag and wants to sleep with him because she found out Tag had just broken up with his girlfriend. There's a scene where Rachel asks Monica and Phoebe when it's okay to sleep with a guy who is fresh after a breakup, and Phoebe replies that she once did it an hour after a guy broke up with his ex, and Monica, Rachel, and Phoebe all laugh, and it's cool. So they literally describe the situation that was between Ross and Rachel and Chloe, and yet they don't consider it cheating and Rachel wants to do it. And people DARE to write that Ross was in the wrong. No, it all proves that Rachel was an insufferable hypocrite.
Ross openly and honestly told Rachel about his concerns about Mark - and it turned out later that Ross was right, Mark wanted to date Rachel and was romantically interested in her. Also, Ross loved Rachel more than his life, but he was already traumatized by Carol, who was his wife, not a girlfriend, but a wife - and she betrayed him! Rachel had zero empathy for Ross and didn't understand that his fear and jealousy stemmed from trauma.
Rachel was the one who literally broke up with him! Then she right away got together with Mark, Ross called drunk from the bar and heard Mark on the phone in Rachel's apartment. Right after Chloe appeared, took advantage of drunk Ross, so Ross never cheated and had every reason to be angry, but Rachel actually had zero problem with destroying the relationships of other people and cheating! And it's a zero problem for her fans too but oh, suddenly Rachel is a poor victim who was cheated on when she broke up with Ross - period; and he was drunk.
She sexually harassed Tag during his first job interview, and she lied to her father about Ross not wanting to marry her when she told him about the pregnancy, and yet the truth was the opposite: Ross literally proposed the marriage to her in the hospital the first day she told him about her pregnancy, and she rejected the offer. As a result of these lies, Rachel's dad almost ruined Ross' relationship with Mona!
Ross, on his part, was literally just worried about Mark, and turns out, he was dead on about Mark! This is why the Hugh Laurie scene on the plane is my favorite moment on Friends ever -finally, someone actually told the truth about the insufferable, spoiled, hypocritical narcissist that Rachel always was, and to her face! She was by far the worst, most toxic, most hypocritical character on this show! And her fans are all these things too. Ross deserved so much better!
It wasn’t Ralph Lauren. It was Bloomingdale’s
@@fmfilipinoman5609 fixed. thx
hard to watch. simp lvl is just crazy....thats why today women feel crazy entitled - even thought most of the time they have nothing to offer.
just say youre gay and move on
@@franciscrozierera Yo mama would disagree
Bingo
What do men have to offer thou? 😂 50% of them are incels, 30% of them are men child, 10% are closeted gays, not to mention men like you are pretty much a lost cause 😂.
@adamkuc9440 That's your only comeback? Pathetic.🤦♀️