Tips. Very important if you would like to saw with precision. (avoid torsion as much as possible)! Always choose a Miter saw with a handle positioned in a vertical line above the saw blade. Everything must be aligned, slide rails, handle, and saw blade,it is much better this way the blade will not tilt. Because there is some torsion in the aluminum housing . And choose an engine with softstart on it to prevent wear of the gear and worm shaft. It is very important that everything is aligned. Here are some examples to show how the handle must be positioned above the blade. Bosch gcm 800 sj / Bosch gcm 8 sjl / Evolution rage 3 / FESTOOL KS 60 / HITACHI C12RSH2 / FESTOOL KS 60 E KAPEX / Metabo KGSV 72 Xact (This also is the case with the Miter saw without the slide rails). If you want you can test it yourself at home if there is torsion in the aluminum housing. Step-1. First you make a saw cut from +-5 mm deep in to a flat piece of wood about +- 20 mm thick. To this with the normal handle positioned on the right side of the Miter saw. Step-2. Then repeat this by pushing the saw blade down with your hand (finger) on the aluminum protective cover were the saw blade is cased in. Just now only do this without the running engine. Step-3. Now you can see if the saw blade will be positioned in or next to the saw cut. If the saw blade is (+- 0,2 / 0,5 mm) next to the saw cut then there is torsion in the aluminum housing. Step-4. therefor it is much better to choose a Miter saw with the handle positioned vertical in line above the saw blade. Step-5. When you measure the vertical 90 degrees angle square (Digital Level Box) of you're sawblade don't forget that there is always some torsion in the aluminum housing. Conclusion: Remember this, the test is only about torsion and nothing else how further away the handle is from the saw blade how more chance of torsion in the aluminum housing, you better not go for that. (the choices are yours).
Thanks for the true man way to do an unboxing. “Manual. I don’t need no stinking manual “ lol. Apparently lots have broken the Allen key. Even after reading the MANual and knowing which way to loosen the nut. Damm China steel. 😂
I'm not sure if it is any good actually. Maybe I'll do a comparison video of them! I've just always used those Freud Diablo blades because most blades that come with saws are just generic cheap blades. Depends on the company though.... hmmmmmm.... now I want to do that video!!! hahaha
@@BorsellinoHomeServices ahahahahha i am happy umi am inspiring you to. I just order the diablo to. Thanks for you video and fast answers. Wonderful w&k
I bought one a few weeks ago. Was hoping to save some space in my tiny shop, things about twice as big as my old 10” GMC saw. Lol… Have seriously thought about returning it for the 10” but just going to keep it. Love it, but don’t like the giant Sasquatch hand handle grip, the safety is annoying too. Nice video, enjoyed it!👍
Yeah it's hard to get used to. I always forget that the bevel lever is in the front instead of the back like my old DeWalt. Not sure I'll ever get used to it cause I don't use it very much lol
I just picked up this saw it is probably way more than I need but at 500 new in box it was only like 70 more than the metabo 10 inch sliding zero clearance I purchased.
@@rikityrik just a few days prior I had actually bought the Metabo 10 inch sliding miter saw for like 369 plus tax so the difference was minimum in cost but the Bosch was a better saw so I returned the Metabo
This is the second Bosch 12” that I've had. The blade change tool is absolutely garbage. You didn't need to take that first screw off when changing the blade. The clear blade guard will lock up out of the way when the blade needs to be changed.
Yeah the tool really is garbage!!! I can't believe it broke the first time I tried using it!!! Thanks for the tip on the guard, My old dewalt I always needed to remove that guard so I guess old habits are hard to break :)
I lose more and more confidence in this saw the more videos I see. Lots of mechanical struggles and adjustments required. People are drawn to its double hinge sliding action but that is the least important thing to look for.
yeah it is a bummer. The only reason I got this saw was for the knuckle system so I could have it installed on a bench in my trailer... I'm second guessing my purchase though
@@thomasnorthcastle4130 why am i second guessing? Just because I am not confident in it's accuracy... It was expensive and for it to not be dead on is discouraging
@@BorsellinoHomeServices I'm on my second saw like this and they both have been super accurate. Even still, I always check. I used to work for UPS and I'm telling you that lots of things go bump like this saw for instance. My point is, at least it has the ability to be corrected if it needed to be. That's a plus in my book.
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That's insane your bevel just lifted up. Mine was suppppper tight. Like no way you could pull it up that east.
Tips.
Very important if you would like to saw with precision. (avoid torsion as much as possible)!
Always choose a Miter saw with a handle positioned in a vertical line above the saw blade.
Everything must be aligned, slide rails, handle, and saw blade,it is much better this way the blade will not tilt.
Because there is some torsion in the aluminum housing .
And choose an engine with softstart on it to prevent wear of the gear and worm shaft.
It is very important that everything is aligned.
Here are some examples to show how the handle must be positioned above the blade.
Bosch gcm 800 sj / Bosch gcm 8 sjl / Evolution rage 3 / FESTOOL KS 60 / HITACHI C12RSH2 / FESTOOL KS 60 E KAPEX / Metabo KGSV 72 Xact
(This also is the case with the Miter saw without the slide rails).
If you want you can test it yourself at home if there is torsion in the aluminum housing.
Step-1. First you make a saw cut from +-5 mm deep in to a flat piece of wood about +- 20 mm thick. To this with the normal handle positioned on the right side of the Miter saw.
Step-2. Then repeat this by pushing the saw blade down with your hand (finger) on the aluminum protective cover were the saw blade is cased in. Just now only do this without the running engine.
Step-3. Now you can see if the saw blade will be positioned in or next to the saw cut. If the saw blade is (+- 0,2 / 0,5 mm) next to the saw cut then there is torsion in the aluminum housing.
Step-4. therefor it is much better to choose a Miter saw with the handle positioned vertical in line above the saw blade.
Step-5. When you measure the vertical 90 degrees angle square (Digital Level Box) of you're sawblade don't forget that there is always some torsion in the aluminum housing.
Conclusion: Remember this, the test is only about torsion and nothing else how further away the handle is from the saw blade how more chance of torsion in the aluminum housing, you better not go for that. (the choices are yours).
wow that is great advice I never thought of that in all my years doing construction...
Do you have a video explaining what you just said?
I should say demonstrating what you just said?
I don't have a video but if you read the test carefully it should be clear!!
I just order one for Father's day. Hope i will like it
Cool! I hope you do! I have a video showing how to set it up to cut perfect if you need it... th-cam.com/video/81hVCwdPGZo/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the true man way to do an unboxing. “Manual. I don’t need no stinking manual “ lol. Apparently lots have broken the Allen key. Even after reading the MANual and knowing which way to loosen the nut. Damm China steel. 😂
😂😂😂😂 I did a followup video where I showed how to set it up to cut plumb and square and I think I used the manual for that..... i think.........
Question : Why did you change the blade? The original one wasn't good enough?
I'm not sure if it is any good actually. Maybe I'll do a comparison video of them! I've just always used those Freud Diablo blades because most blades that come with saws are just generic cheap blades. Depends on the company though.... hmmmmmm.... now I want to do that video!!! hahaha
@@BorsellinoHomeServices ahahahahha i am happy umi am inspiring you to. I just order the diablo to. Thanks for you video and fast answers. Wonderful w&k
@@willtix6301 Cool! I think you'll like the diablo's... they cut like BUTTAH!!!
I bought one a few weeks ago. Was hoping to save some space in my tiny shop, things about twice as big as my old 10” GMC saw. Lol… Have seriously thought about returning it for the 10” but just going to keep it. Love it, but don’t like the giant Sasquatch hand handle grip, the safety is annoying too.
Nice video, enjoyed it!👍
Yeah it's hard to get used to. I always forget that the bevel lever is in the front instead of the back like my old DeWalt. Not sure I'll ever get used to it cause I don't use it very much lol
i have one of these and i find blade deflection really bad...cutting moulding needs to be right the first cut...no shaving afterwards
yeah after owning it for a while I'm not super impressed with it TBH
I just picked up this saw it is probably way more than I need but at 500 new in box it was only like 70 more than the metabo 10 inch sliding zero clearance I purchased.
that's a great price for this saw!
Wow great deal! I saw one here in Texas for $425. But it was an hour away… just couldn’t justify the drive but probably should.
@@rikityrik just a few days prior I had actually bought the Metabo 10 inch sliding miter saw for like 369 plus tax so the difference was minimum in cost but the Bosch was a better saw so I returned the Metabo
Awsome saw and demo. Thanks.
yeah it is pretty rad
Chinese Allen Head wrench. What did you expect??
lol i expected it to at least work and maybe strip, but not break! HAHA
Wow grease !!! Thank God they put grease on it its a game changer no one on earth could apply it them selves!!!
So much grease! Yeah it is really nice actually
Size box
sorry what?
This is the second Bosch 12” that I've had. The blade change tool is absolutely garbage. You didn't need to take that first screw off when changing the blade. The clear blade guard will lock up out of the way when the blade needs to be changed.
Yeah the tool really is garbage!!! I can't believe it broke the first time I tried using it!!! Thanks for the tip on the guard, My old dewalt I always needed to remove that guard so I guess old habits are hard to break :)
I lose more and more confidence in this saw the more videos I see. Lots of mechanical struggles and adjustments required. People are drawn to its double hinge sliding action but that is the least important thing to look for.
yeah it is a bummer. The only reason I got this saw was for the knuckle system so I could have it installed on a bench in my trailer... I'm second guessing my purchase though
@@BorsellinoHomeServices why?
@@thomasnorthcastle4130 why am i second guessing? Just because I am not confident in it's accuracy... It was expensive and for it to not be dead on is discouraging
@@BorsellinoHomeServices I'm on my second saw like this and they both have been super accurate. Even still, I always check. I used to work for UPS and I'm telling you that lots of things go bump like this saw for instance. My point is, at least it has the ability to be corrected if it needed to be. That's a plus in my book.
@@thomasnorthcastle4130 That is a really good point. The fact that it has all the adjustments in every way is great!