The Most REALISTIC way to Play Session! (it's too hard) | Session
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- The Most REALISTIC way to Play Session! (it's too hard). A little over a year ago is when I got introduced to realistic manual catch in Skater XL. A lot of you guys have been asking me to try playing Session with their realistic manual catch settings and I've been holding off because... I suck at it. I figured this video would be a good way to get my foot in the door and hopefully get some advice from you guys on how to PROPERLY play Session with realistic manual catch. Looking forward to your comments!
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Am I doing something wrong or am I just bad?
probably both? ;)
Gotta get used to her for sire
With manual catch, press up with your back foot stick to catch back foot, press down on front foot stick to catch front foot. The glitchy landing is because your landing in a "manual" even though you let go. If you want to land in manuals or nose/5-0s just do the normal input.
I don't think it works or looks as good in goofy either.
Also just tap it, don't hold it, that's what makes it rocket.
What helped me out with manual catch was lowering my flip and scoop 3-4 ticks and try to do really slow motions on joystick to get slow flips, now that I've gotten "used" to it I'm back at my normal flip/scoop speed. The feeling of catching something with the appropriate foot when you're just flowing around landing trick after trick feels amazing.
to catch: back foot stick UP to catch with back foot, front foot stick Down to catch with front foot ( press both at the same time if you want to catch with both feet) you can catch the board flicking the sticks in any direction BUT for times when you want to land in.. lets say Manual, youll catch with back foot half way down ( you dont need to catch then input for manual, you catch with the manuals input) same for a 5-0, you'll catch with back foot Down and hold it while you get into 5-0. so thats why when you catch with back foot Down on flat, you land a bit weird. pushing the back foot down to catch with back foot will make you land heavily on the back and youll do a small manual. same goes for Up on front foot. so, when on flat, back foot up, or front foot down. when getting into manuals, grinds or slides - catch with the grind, slide or manual's input. if you want to kickflip shifty you can catch with a stick to the left or right :P
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@@GarrettGinnerGaming i also noticed you were holding the catch a bit too long ( like for the BS flip and kickflip.. etc ), making the board like rocket after catching. just do quick flip to keep it from doing that
Yeah he nailed it.
Well you did ask for coach Frank's help
Take JL’s tips and keep at it!
Personally, if it ain’t manual catch… it ain’t shit! 😬
They should make JL Nightmare the “Coach Frank” of session. 🤣. He is already mapped for the game, just make him the tutorial guy! 😂
but then that would take away Donovan Strain's role in the game 😂
@@JLNightmare sounds like a win win
Next time you try Manual Catch, drop your Flip Speed (in advanced Settings) to 4 or 5. Should help get rid of the double flips. OR use directional for Flip Settings instead of input Speed (in flip trick settings)
Been playing session for about a week or 2 after playing skater xl for well over a year on Xbox. Takes me like 40 minutes to get a good line that I’m satisfied with with the settings. Much more realistic experience and feels more like skating. Gotta love New York too
garrett in the last session vid: you know what? i don't do enough double flips
session w/ manual catch: your wish is my command
the monkey's paw curls
Garrett's Help Desk:
Manual Catch Crash Course - If you're catching a trick flick your catching foot towards the middle of the board. The direction does not change until you land the trick. What that means is if you're doing a BS flip you still flick up on the back foot. You were right when you said that flicking quicker made the catch better. If you hold the catch you tweak the board which can be cool if you want to steeze out your tricks. This is the same mechanic as flipping into grinds. If anyone has more specific questions I'm happy to answer whatever.
“10 minutes to do 3 flat ground tricks and they don’t even look good” sounds VERY realistic lmao
It's really just putting your hands to mimic what your feet and mind know in real life. And for the 360flips, you want to pull down the front foot joystick. To catch with your front foot and get the Steezie style.
Just catch by moving whichever foot to the inside (away from the nose/tail).
I also changed my settings to slow down flip tricks to avoid the double flips.
Nice manual balance and a great intensity of a timing to executing the right movement of a successful manual.
maybe turn the flip speed up aloooot like i did because iam someone that flicks the sticks reaaaaal fast so when the board also flips faster it makes you catch it better like 1 or 2 notches
The left foot right foot setting to Manuel catch are really realistic and easy once you understand. But think about when you do a Kickflip and you bring your back foot up and slide it forward to put back on the board. That's exactly what you do with the joysticks. The left stick for goofy(back foot) would slide upwards to catch moving your foot forward. And pulling it down usually results in late back one foot landings.
unless you want to catch using your back foot into a grind that puts most weight on your front foot or vise versa, your catching foot input can also be your grind weight foot input. Eg catch with the front foot flicking up and hold it to flip into a grind with your front foot weight, like a nose grind or crooked.
Back foot up - front foot down
Flip to grind is basically the same as auto.
You got this dude
So my advise, if you don’t wanna catch it in a manual, flick it the opposite direction of the manual input
If you do want to manual, catch it with a manual input
So for example, Garrett being goofy
If you don’t want a manual, flick a kickflip UP on the left stick to catch. If you want a manual, flick DOWN on the left stick to do the manual input
With grinds and ONLY grinds
You catch the board with the input you would do for a grind
So a kickflip fs smith, you would do the kickflip, but to catch the board and do a smith, you would just apply the sticks to however you do a smith (for me it’s BACK FOOT down, FRONT FOOT tweaked to the right)
I skate regular in Session, you can apply this to what your stance is IN ANY STANCE
I like when the skaters arm gets stuck in that steez mike v style.
Best outro ever!!! Hope they never fix the crazy arms glitch and still think your taz sound effect needs officially adding to the game 🤣😂🤣
if i understand this correctly, if you wanna do a boned kickflip, you might have to flick and then catch with both sticks up when the timing is right
Flick up on your back foot for back foot catch. Down on your front for front foot catch. Grinds and manuals catch with the input for the grind/manual
For me, session catch is good, and the angles mean you can add rotation and shift, BUT Session's trick input just isnt reliable AT ALL. You can do a really slow kickflip and your board will go at rocket speed, then you can try do a fast heel and the board will glitch and go snail slow. So you will never really get comfortable with it.
I spent a long time learning session manual catch, got good at it. Then one day tried auto and just went straaight back to auto. I'm all for the realism but when stuff is going wrong when you did the right thing is when it's no longer enjoyable
Same for me. I guess you´d need to fiddle about with the stats to get it working smoothly...then again, landing on a rail in a 50-50, doing the proper inputs and all I get is a floaty something that does not even register (can be reproduced)...those controlls are still bugged a lot
Pro tip: lowering you’re flip speed will help prevent double flips, over rotation etc... I believe you can also mirror the input so that the stick input required to catch the board isn’t affected by body rotation, by that I mean your back foot will always be your right joystick even while switch and vice verse, hope this helps! (UPDATE: just saw that JL nightmare already covered this in the comments)
(kickflip) after you catch with backfoot down push front foot up to level the trick out
Albert Einstein: 'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results'
You should do like a battle commander when you deticate one video showing the scruggle of one trick? Purhaps a double hardflip , hurrican front side or backside doesnt matter
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Nice video. I really hope Session gives us the L3/R3 method of catching the board, I've just never really liked how session handled it.
I actually don’t time my truck irl and I never noticed that til now I just kinda do the trick and ig hope I land it? This blew my mind lowkey
CATCH WITH FRONT FOOT FOWARD (UP on left stick) and BACK FOOT DOWNWARF (down on right stick). i noticed you can manually catch to the right or left
naw this is wrong. input to catch towards the middle of the board, not the nose/tail. you can input to the nose and tail if you wanna catch into manual but if you dont get the manual you will experience the "bounce glitch" when you land fairly often. the bounce glitch only happens when you catch the board the wrong direction onto flat tho and it doesnt happen all the time.
With manual catch, press up with your back foot stick to catch back foot, press down on front foot stick to catch front foot. The glitchy landing is because your landing in a "manual" even though you let go. If you want to land in manuals or nose/5-0s just do the normal input.
I don't think it works or looks as good in goofy either.
always push the catching foot towards the middle of the board unless you are doing a manny or grind
I saw a ride on grind on skater xl and it doesn't work straight away. Only way it does is if you powerslide on it and lock in,and omg it looks so beautiful. As for session,I wish I could help, but I'm on ps4. If I had Xbox, I could play it at least, but I stopped with Xbox after 3 different rings of death when 360 was out. I DNT trust them anymore lol.
This makes me want to learn the realistic manual catch!! Probably a stupid question but is the setting for continous flip on?? Maybe thats why the double flips?
Remember you know you could just get ahold of jl nightmare to help you out
Put front foot stick directly to the center of the board to catch
i don’t play session but i’m assuming you can catch the tricks from pulling up and down is so that you can catch the board and still immediate go into a manual or nose manual?
If Session had Skater XL catch, I'd play it a ton more.
I begining you for watch the tutorial made for jL nightmare hes the Man for this Topic.
I have saw you mention before about falling when not catching. I have never understood that lol. How often do you fall on flat when you don't catch a trick? Some variety would be good where you sometimes try to stick it and land upside down and bail etc but just bailing from missing a catch doesn't make sense imo. I love the way sessions failed catch works.
Once there are a few stumble animations it'll be much better
You could also turn off continuous flip until you get catching down better
I only catch flip trick down (on left) or up (on right) is when flipping into grinds or manuals. fuck varial heels though. I can barely catch those no matter what I try. to clarify I skate goofy with left foot right foot controls.
lol...varial heel was among the first three tricks I landed with manual catch active...don´t ask me how, timing on this one seems to be utmost critical and I likely just got lucky
Session's Coach Frank is Donovan.
Session is weird cuz it's easier to flip to grind/manuals than actual flatground tricks
So sick to see you progressing so much!
Btw Garrett big spins look a lot better if u shuv it instead of pop shove it! You can shuv it by just scooping your foot and not doing anything with the other foot.
needs to be activated however, not active out of the box iirc
Hi Garrett love the vids, you should try lowering you flip speed/ flip friction
idk if u know this but u can just hit load map on sessionmodmanager and then load into chatham towers instead of closing and reopening the game to change maps
I love the old house of the beam ng drive video
By the way, this was awesome as it felt like you were learning to skate!
I'm having this issue now, Session when played fully manually gives a difficulty level that doesn't really provides a satisfaction level that matches the effort needed to perfectly execute complex lines. Nor it provides a "realistic" look or a "personalized" style for your virtual skater by having "enhance" control over rotation timing and manual catches. It just makes everything more clunky and overly complicated, then you'll find yourself spending over 20 minutes on a line that It may not look right (Specially because you sorta need to hide all the clipping issues with proper camera angles...) Any thoughts?
It just takes some serious time and effort, it's like irl skating where you have to try super hard over lots of time to feel comfortable and to get better. Eventually manual catch becomes second nature and you will have a much easier time trying lines and flowing around, just keep at it
I lowered my flip speed 2 (it's at 8 now) and I don't double flip any more!
also it’s not one fluid motion. it needs to be timed separate inputs. just practice with something easy like kick flip then move on to 3 flips
hahaha !!! Gr8 video dude. very funny
I dislike the manual catch for flatground in session. IT just doesn't feel organic, list like the reverts. Skater XL does it much better. And for grind/manual combos you don't have to do any extra manual input because the input of the grind/manual will make you land it. Which feels lackluster. It does never feels rewarding, like in skater xl when you get to manual catch and get good at it, it feels really good. For now I'm leaving it up until they hopefully innovate a bit on that feature.
THAT SAID. Overall I feel Session feels a lot better than SXL right now! And I cannot WAIT for the transition update, I really hope it's better than SXL transition, or any transition of other skate games... I want to blunt to fakie and have it feel amazing!
or maybe i’m wrong lol i think the person a couple comments below me is right. i forget i need to be holding the controller. maybe it’s front foot stick down and back foot stick down
I tried that, not too hard to get it in my head...but went back to auto...adds nothing but frustration without adjusting stats, might look good on certain tricks but overall, not worth the hassle imho, as I prefer to go fast (yeah I know, Session should be played like chess, as in really slow)...also looks like utter BS if you catch it caspar just to land normal...-muh realism!-
guess I´ll let them finish their game first before going to try that again
perhaps one needs to really crank down flipspeed etc. and I noticed, that the game does not glitch out as much if you deactivate bail physics (experimental tab), it runs a bit smoother I think...also prevents the "chicken arms" after a reset of the skater
You can catch with both sticks too
flick of the bean monkaW
i do miss old house :(
You need a coach jl ;p
We're getting baited for comments so i'm gonna give wrong answers only.
It does not matter which direction you flick to catch.
back foot up so you don’t rocket 🚀 front foot down so you don’t bone 🦴
TRY COMBO GRINDS ON SESSION!
That’s what she said.
Just point the stick in the opposite direction of the pop
The session videos uploaded haven’t been on mc? 💀🧢 varial flip bennett grind big flip out mc
Please catch tre with both sticks on flat but catch front foot first, all these ig session players ruin their clips without it uwu
damn, sessions steeze still looks so bad ... and every time you do a certain trick it looks exactly the same. are they really two updates from 1.0?
wish they’d fix frames on console
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its very simple. you put your left foot in you you take your left foot out. you put your left foot in and you shake it all... yea nevermind not gonna go there.
back foot stick up*
Get JL to help you out
That is the only part I think is failing about session, it doesn't feel as intuitive as i.e. skate or skater XL, and it tells a lot when Garrett is struggling as he have a lot of hours playing skateboarding games and is a professional skateboarder
Nah son he’s just shit at the game
and u think this is hard. go into stats and turn synced flips off and try any trick with a 360 rotay in it... e.g 360 Flip, Laser flip, 360 inward heel etc. . . shit is so inconsistent and no matter how slow i flip it.. the trick goes like 500mph and does like 50 flips LMAO (like 90% of the time atleast. sometimes it works but super rare)
Synced off is still broken… that’s why it’s inconsistent
@@bobbydubbs7332 ahh gotchu. I figured it was. I was hoping it was actually and that, that wasnt how it was supposed to be lol
Lemme have some of your pizza rolls
what happend to "playing session for 30 min"
More sim videos
Ayeee
Literally makes no difference which direction or foot you catch a trick with. You just need to time it correctly, that’s it. You’re overthinking it
it is a lil weird
first
damn, those ugly shoes
This game looks and feels so shit compared to skater xl
this game just suck at animations🤢