As I am on my 4th year of golf, I recently just learned how to hit a draw and fade on command with my irons.. I can’t do it with my driver yet but we can work on that next. I think this is such a valuable lesson to learn about how swing path & face manipulation can really make the difference in a golf swing. I NEVER go for a straight shot anymore, I always shoot for the draw because that’s the most comfortable. One big thing that wasn’t mentioned here is how as a newer golfer you can help this by wrist angle and adjusting your grip to help make the wrist angle easier to get to.
My typical shot is a baby draw. I started with a slice and have had so much fear trying to hit a fade because I was such a slicer previously. I’m going to try this to developing a fade. Thanks!
The first golf instruction book I read in the mid-80s was “Golf My Way” by Nicklaus which is still, after reading literally hundreds of other golf books over the years, has the most straight-forward explanation of why a golfer should learn to always try to shape shots with “slice” or “hook” spin on the ball but in a controlled manner which steers it back to an intended target in the center with a ( “fade” or “draw” ). There was no need to learn “swing laws and 9 different paths the ball could take - six of them missing the intended target- just two: fade and draw. Why shape shots? Jack explained it wasn’t just to curve Driver off the tee around doglegs it was to improve the odds of keeping approach shots, especially with longer irons, on the putting surface by first evaluating the longest distance between front edge and the day’s pin position and the shape of the green to either land the ball with left to right spin and movement towards the hole after landing / with a fade, or right-to-left action \ with a draw. With cleverly designed golf holes the choice between hitting “fade” or “draw” off the tee on Par 3, or the approach shots on Par 4 and 5 holes changes depending on pin placement. Most pin placements favor a high fade [What Jack’s swing style made easy] because it stops he ball on the green like a ‘lawn dart’ when hit well. But earlier this year I got an Eagle on a par 5 with a ‘hard’ draw starting my ball so far to the right of the green a playing partner said, “Do you realize you are aiming at that house over there? (well right of the green). The guy making the comment was in his late 60s and had never in his life even tried to shape a shot. Me? After reading Jack’s book I almost never try to hit one straight. My stance line was about 20° to the right of where I wanted the ball to land, not at the flag, but on the very front edge of the long right-to-left green angled 45° \ to the fairway. I had the face of my 5 iron closed about 15° and aimed at the inside of the ball. It flew exactly as planned in a right to left curve in the air, hit front right on the green then rolled 50 feet straight into the hole. 😊 I’m 72 and learned to hit shots like that (thanks to Jack) in the 1980s and had so much fun doing it I never stopped trying. I finally got very good at it from age 55 when I retired from the US Foreign Serviced and went to work part time (at min. wage) at a nine hole par 35 former golf academy where the perk was unlimited range balls and golf rounds, most I played solo to work on my shot shaping skills. When closing the course at night I’d follow an hour behind the last group with the greenskeeper’s ball mark repair tool, one iron or wedge and a bag of 30 Pro V1 balls (I found hundreds of them in the woods) and would hit 10 straight, 10 fade, and 10 drawn shots to the center of the green on each hole, marking the balls with S,F,D to evaluate the results, then fixing mine and all the other ball marks which the guy mowing the green the next morning appreciated. That’s how I was able to dial in my fade, draw and straight distances and experiment see how much a ball can be shaped back to target. With a urethane cover three + layer ball it is possible to open / close stance by as much as 45° and get the ball to curve back to center. Golfer’s slice that much unintentionally 😂 Trevino’s quip “I can talk to a Fade but a Draw doesn’t listen” reflects the fact it is much easier to put “slice” spin on a ball with open stance / slightly less open face than it is to close stance and face with longer irons but it is possible to get some wicked “hook” spin and a lot of controlled ‘draw’ action on a ball which has a high coefficient friction hit with sufficient ‘hammer-like’ compression on the face by closing a PW like a 7i and striking it as hard as humanly possible like you are ‘chopping wood’ not trying to sweep the floor [how most recreational golfers think a golf swing works]. The thing I love most about the game, because I can shape shots, is trying to out think the designer of the courses I play. I’ve read biographies of the great classic designers and what their mindsets were. Golf is a metaphor for trench warfare with the designer the defender who knows how golfers at different skill levels play and miss- noobs to the right, pros to the left 50-100 yards further off the tee-and that advanced players do know how to shape shots but recreational golfers don’t-which is why most recreational golfers never come close to shooting a par round. Playing a new course for first time I look at the par distances and pick the tees which are 180 yards from the longest one, what I can still reach with a 3i fade or 5i draw and which experience has shown gives me a reasonable chance for par or no worse than bogie on the par 4s and 5s.
Face angel should always be half of club path. Club path = 5 => Face angle = 2.5 Club path -6 => Face angle = -3. The bigger the number = bigger fade/draw (depending om + or - path)
Recently went for a lesson with pro who has been only teacher who has highlighted my flat swing would be more consistent if I tried playing for a draw with irons . Used starting lines and sim points as you did in video. Been 0:02 trying with mixed results , driver not an issue consistently a baby fade . 🤷♂️Great visual alignment help in video 👍
I don’t have any trouble drawing the ball ,it’s a natural shot for me ,probably why my game sucks most of the time ,once the hooks start it’s pretty much game over .People that have a fade or going into a slice seem to have more control and a better crap game .I have been playing this frustrating sport for years now and I am never going to or want to overhaul my swing for something that is just a hobby ,what I try to do is control my natural swing path but it’s very difficult sometimes .People often say they wish they had a natural draw ,belive me you are better off with a fade ,once the hooks start your bringing shank into play which is something I’ve never ever completely got rid off .Still love the game though would just like a bit more consistency,. Going to try to get out more next season .
This is exactly how i learnt it myself after hours and hours in the range, i noticed the stance change made the biggest difference before anything else back foot forward naturally brang in a fade for me back foot back helped a draw crazy how the brain changes your swing specifically on your setup and that ball flight is to die for great video!
@@jackbenson8957 little confused…. Back foot forward helps with a fade? And back foot back helps with a draw? Do you mean, to hit a fade you put the ball up in your stance ?!? And a draw the ball back in your stance?
@@georgejung5429 no change in ball position for me personally, for example im a right handed golfer so when i setup for a fade id put my right foot slightly forwards to change my aim point slightly left. this forces my body to swing out to in slightly and that works for me personally with a fade Opposite with the draw so foot slightly back changes the swing path in to out
Since I’m drawing the ball naturally often too much, would you also recommend a fade setup like this to get it more straight/reduce the draw? You are making really great videos 🙌🏼
im a natural drawer, opening the face for over a year never improved my game. just go to a range for a few sessions and just emphasize coming over the ball more, its improved me so much these past few weeks
Great video Alex! I'm right handed and for 52 years, I've always played to hit the ball straight, so just recently, at this old age LOL, I started practicing fades and draws in my front yard hitting foam golf balls. I'm having a problem pulling some of my draws. I'll hit a few good shots than I'll pull a few.
I know - the draw is a hard one for sure. Here is the link to the video for that one i did on draw th-cam.com/video/cw41ZvQEjNc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=udyrEWZXUMYmhu4T Thanks for tuning in!
This is such a spot on lesson. I just posted this on a FB group. BTW, I just love your videos. Newbie here and my first post, so some background. I'm 60 and am getting back to golf after 20 plus years. Used to be between a 9 to 11 handicap and had a good game. Gave up golf because I was addicted to it and played 5 rounds a week, and my work was suffering. Now that I am semi retired getting back. My wife had told me that I needed to choose between golf and work, and she was not wrong either. In my previous golf life I would be able to hit a draw or fade on need by changing my stance to closed/open, but my natural shot with a square stance was a gentle draw so I must have been hitting a nice inside out swing. Now I just cant seem to do it, so tips to swing from inside would be greatly appreciated. In the meanwhile, I have found that with a closed stance I am gaining 20 yards plus on the driver because I get a 'cheat' inside out swing. My question is, is it OK to continue with a closed stance to get my draw or should I persevere to hit a 'correct' inside out swing with a square stance. Sorry for the long post. EDIT: I now have setup a sim with a launch monitor so I can see what I am doing wrong.
Oddly enough I’m that guy that’s almost always hitting dead straight with my irons. Unless I actively try to hit a fade or draw, I just naturally hit it on a rope to whoever I’m aimed. Another reason why I’m splitting my set into the P7CB from 7 or 8 to gap. I currently have 790s and ordered one CB to test. Can’t believe how amazing it is and much easier to hit than I was expecting. I’ll probably move into the 770 in 4-6 before next spring, but for now just doing the CBs cause my 790s are only 5 months old. I just returned to golf after 15 years, so I wasn’t sure where I’d be. Definitely like riding a bike with the irons and putting. But driver definitely needed work and chipping outta the rough
I hit my natural swing which is a fade sometimes a slice. I try so hard to draw because it just looks sexy. Gonna look for the draw for your driver video you mentioned. That’s what I really wanna draw.
Hi, love the idea of either fading or drawing, more than anything else there is somuch more freedom to swing. At 3:55, i try this setup, moving ball up and then opening, result has been Topping the ball, cant figure out why? Also if I try the Draw setup, The strike is better than ever but the ball goes straight or a slight fade. Please advice. Thanks
He’s right! I’ve been working on my shot shape the past couple of weeks. I can fade, draw or straight shoot right where I want to (most of the time lol) and I’ve been swinging the same way he’s explaining it here! For my fade, I think of it like chopping wood, I’m out with the club and come down and inwards. For the draw I tuck my right elbow in deep and turn early to go from in to out. For straight, well I just swing straight lol.
So I’m not great at golf. I usually shoot in the mid 80’s but I can’t shape a shot to save my life. I hit it straight and I don’t really see the point in hitting anything other than a straight shot unless something is in the way. If it’s a dogleg I’ll cut the corner or hit it to the straightaway. What am I missing because it seems really difficult to shape the ball?
When you learn how to shape it, you’ll wonder why you didn’t do it sooner, fades & power fades are super easy to hit when you understand how to do it. Draws are fun to hit too Straight shots are a nightmare, always pull or push them
interesting, id never close my club head, since i naturally draw my irons i used to open my face to try hit it fade/cut but now im learning to just come over the ball.. closing the club head seems like a disaster
This might be pointless but I've not seen a good description or video of it yet. I'm newish to golf and keep getting coaches that just tell me to release the club. My brain fries when they tell me to release it and I get so lost in thought. What do we mean about releasing the club and what does it look like across irons, woods and drivers.
I thought I heard you say that you would never try to teach anyone to hit a straight shot. That sounds a bit bonkers, if you don't mind me saying. Here is my logic on that. I hit a straight ball and sometimes will get a slight draw. not a big deal and easy to allow for. I get a straight ball because I have (1) a square (or near square) clubface at impact, and (2) a neutral swing path. I would be a good candidate for hitting a fade or draw under your guidance because I have a sense of what square is at impact and also as sense of a neutral path. But, in the same video that you are saying you would never teach a straight shot, you are asking people to apply skills that would require an even more complex clubface alignment than one for a straight shot, and a path that is more complex (alignment wise) than one for a straight shot. I love your videos and your ideas but in this case I would say better guidance to golfers would be something along the lines of first learning to have a repeatable swing with a square face and a neutral path, and then once you are fairly comfortable with the results from that, then try and learn to draw and fade. If you were trying to teach a 15 year old pitcher how to throw a curve in the strike zone, I would first say "let me see that you can hit the strike zone with your fastball with some consistency first." because if you can't throw strikes on a pitch with little or no spin, then you are not ready to throw breaking balls. I hope you see the analogy Alex. You need to be able to control your clubface and path before you can draw or fade, and the easiest way to get those two skills are to try hitting straight shots over and over again. Once again, love your videos.
I didn’t hear a logical argument for never trying/learning to hit the ball straight. Whether you are trying to master a straight ball flight, or a curved ball flight, both require controlling club path and club face. Learn to reduce club path and club face deviation as low as possible. Once you master that, then learn to intentionally alter both to control ball flight curvature right or left.
Hey guys everyone report back after watching this. Did you need a golf lesson again? Did this transform you into a 5 handicap? More snake oil clickbait.
I very much doubt that this is how pro's doing fades/draws. They are not aiming to the left/right of the pin nor changing the positions of the ball. they change the direction of the swing by going more/less shallow and adding more/less wrist rotations.
There are a multitude of ways to achieve that. Most pros who fade it a lot do aim left into the woods and have the ball fade in the fairway. His explanation isthe simplest way to have amateurs have the feels it takes to maybe try and have shot shapes in their games.
Let me know which shot your struggle with the most out of these! For me 90% of golfers are missing a trick here!
High draw with driver. HELP!!!
i like how you hit the fade and then the draw. I am similar, I can hit a wicked hook followed my a massive slice
Low fade, struggle keeping it low when you have to open the face to path
What app are you using there Alex for that data?
@@bermchasinMe too!!! Probably hit is straight 60% of the time and the other 40% is about half hooks, and half slices… having one miss is the dream
As I am on my 4th year of golf, I recently just learned how to hit a draw and fade on command with my irons.. I can’t do it with my driver yet but we can work on that next.
I think this is such a valuable lesson to learn about how swing path & face manipulation can really make the difference in a golf swing. I NEVER go for a straight shot anymore, I always shoot for the draw because that’s the most comfortable.
One big thing that wasn’t mentioned here is how as a newer golfer you can help this by wrist angle and adjusting your grip to help make the wrist angle easier to get to.
My typical shot is a baby draw. I started with a slice and have had so much fear trying to hit a fade because I was such a slicer previously.
I’m going to try this to developing a fade. Thanks!
The first golf instruction book I read in the mid-80s was “Golf My Way” by Nicklaus which is still, after reading literally hundreds of other golf books over the years, has the most straight-forward explanation of why a golfer should learn to always try to shape shots with “slice” or “hook” spin on the ball but in a controlled manner which steers it back to an intended target in the center with a ( “fade” or “draw” ). There was no need to learn “swing laws and 9 different paths the ball could take - six of them missing the intended target- just two: fade and draw.
Why shape shots? Jack explained it wasn’t just to curve Driver off the tee around doglegs it was to improve the odds of keeping approach shots, especially with longer irons, on the putting surface by first evaluating the longest distance between front edge and the day’s pin position and the shape of the green to either land the ball with left to right spin and movement towards the hole after landing / with a fade, or right-to-left action \ with a draw.
With cleverly designed golf holes the choice between hitting “fade” or “draw” off the tee on Par 3, or the approach shots on Par 4 and 5 holes changes depending on pin placement. Most pin placements favor a high fade [What Jack’s swing style made easy] because it stops he ball on the green like a ‘lawn dart’ when hit well. But earlier this year I got an Eagle on a par 5 with a ‘hard’ draw starting my ball so far to the right of the green a playing partner said, “Do you realize you are aiming at that house over there? (well right of the green).
The guy making the comment was in his late 60s and had never in his life even tried to shape a shot. Me? After reading Jack’s book I almost never try to hit one straight. My stance line was about 20° to the right of where I wanted the ball to land, not at the flag, but on the very front edge of the long right-to-left green angled 45° \ to the fairway. I had the face of my 5 iron closed about 15° and aimed at the inside of the ball. It flew exactly as planned in a right to left curve in the air, hit front right on the green then rolled 50 feet straight into the hole. 😊
I’m 72 and learned to hit shots like that (thanks to Jack) in the 1980s and had so much fun doing it I never stopped trying. I finally got very good at it from age 55 when I retired from the US Foreign Serviced and went to work part time (at min. wage) at a nine hole par 35 former golf academy where the perk was unlimited range balls and golf rounds, most I played solo to work on my shot shaping skills. When closing the course at night I’d follow an hour behind the last group with the greenskeeper’s ball mark repair tool, one iron or wedge and a bag of 30 Pro V1 balls (I found hundreds of them in the woods) and would hit 10 straight, 10 fade, and 10 drawn shots to the center of the green on each hole, marking the balls with S,F,D to evaluate the results, then fixing mine and all the other ball marks which the guy mowing the green the next morning appreciated. That’s how I was able to dial in my fade, draw and straight distances and experiment see how much a ball can be shaped back to target.
With a urethane cover three + layer ball it is possible to open / close stance by as much as 45° and get the ball to curve back to center. Golfer’s slice that much unintentionally 😂 Trevino’s quip “I can talk to a Fade but a Draw doesn’t listen” reflects the fact it is much easier to put “slice” spin on a ball with open stance / slightly less open face than it is to close stance and face with longer irons but it is possible to get some wicked “hook” spin and a lot of controlled ‘draw’ action on a ball which has a high coefficient friction hit with sufficient ‘hammer-like’ compression on the face by closing a PW like a 7i and striking it as hard as humanly possible like you are ‘chopping wood’ not trying to sweep the floor [how most recreational golfers think a golf swing works].
The thing I love most about the game, because I can shape shots, is trying to out think the designer of the courses I play. I’ve read biographies of the great classic designers and what their mindsets were. Golf is a metaphor for trench warfare with the designer the defender who knows how golfers at different skill levels play and miss- noobs to the right, pros to the left 50-100 yards further off the tee-and that advanced players do know how to shape shots but recreational golfers don’t-which is why most recreational golfers never come close to shooting a par round.
Playing a new course for first time I look at the par distances and pick the tees which are 180 yards from the longest one, what I can still reach with a 3i fade or 5i draw and which experience has shown gives me a reasonable chance for par or no worse than bogie on the par 4s and 5s.
Face angel should always be half of club path.
Club path = 5 => Face angle = 2.5
Club path -6 => Face angle = -3.
The bigger the number = bigger fade/draw (depending om + or - path)
Recently went for a lesson with pro who has been only teacher who has highlighted my flat swing would be more consistent if I tried playing for a draw with irons . Used starting lines and sim points as you did in video. Been 0:02 trying with mixed results , driver not an issue consistently a baby fade . 🤷♂️Great visual alignment help in video 👍
I don’t have any trouble drawing the ball ,it’s a natural shot for me ,probably why my game sucks most of the time ,once the hooks start it’s pretty much game over .People that have a fade or going into a slice seem to have more control and a better crap game .I have been playing this frustrating sport for years now and I am never going to or want to overhaul my swing for something that is just a hobby ,what I try to do is control my natural swing path but it’s very difficult sometimes .People often say they wish they had a natural draw ,belive me you are better off with a fade ,once the hooks start your bringing shank into play which is something I’ve never ever completely got rid off .Still love the game though would just like a bit more consistency,. Going to try to get out more next season .
This is exactly how i learnt it myself after hours and hours in the range, i noticed the stance change made the biggest difference before anything else
back foot forward naturally brang in a fade for me
back foot back helped a draw
crazy how the brain changes your swing specifically on your setup and that ball flight is to die for
great video!
@@jackbenson8957 little confused….
Back foot forward helps with a fade? And back foot back helps with a draw?
Do you mean, to hit a fade you put the ball up in your stance ?!? And a draw the ball back in your stance?
@@georgejung5429 no change in ball position for me personally, for example im a right handed golfer so when i setup for a fade id put my right foot slightly forwards to change my aim point slightly left.
this forces my body to swing out to in slightly and that works for me personally with a fade
Opposite with the draw so foot slightly back changes the swing path in to out
@@jackbenson8957 I hear you. 🤝
Just saw this video. Trouble with iron shots lately so look forward to working hard on this tip!!! Thank you.
Awesome explanation and instructions!!!! What flight monitor is that!!!?
So easy to understand Alex! You’re VERY good at this. Thanks
Just started watching it and so far it holds true.
Haven't had a lesson yet
watch wannagolf1633 btswing. he has visual aids
Since I’m drawing the ball naturally often too much, would you also recommend a fade setup like this to get it more straight/reduce the draw? You are making really great videos 🙌🏼
Thank you! Great question, i did a video on draw whch i think will really help you here th-cam.com/video/cw41ZvQEjNc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=udyrEWZXUMYmhu4T
im a natural drawer, opening the face for over a year never improved my game. just go to a range for a few sessions and just emphasize coming over the ball more, its improved me so much these past few weeks
Great video Alex! I'm right handed and for 52 years, I've always played to hit the ball straight, so just recently, at this old age LOL, I started practicing fades and draws in my front yard hitting foam golf balls. I'm having a problem pulling some of my draws. I'll hit a few good shots than I'll pull a few.
I know - the draw is a hard one for sure.
Here is the link to the video for that one i did on draw th-cam.com/video/cw41ZvQEjNc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=udyrEWZXUMYmhu4T
Thanks for tuning in!
You are by far the best instructor on TH-cam. Thx
Appreciate that thank you
Alex..for lefthanded golfers..
Would the numbers positive n negative be the opposite of the righthand golfers?
Nice video very clear education on how to hit a draw on a fade. Thanks.
With the fade or draw are you swinging out to in or in to out according your alignment? Or just swinging square to your alignment?
Can’t hit a fade with an in to out my friend
@@georgejung5429does my comment make more sense now?
This is such a spot on lesson. I just posted this on a FB group. BTW, I just love your videos.
Newbie here and my first post, so some background. I'm 60 and am getting back to golf after 20 plus years. Used to be between a 9 to 11 handicap and had a good game. Gave up golf because I was addicted to it and played 5 rounds a week, and my work was suffering. Now that I am semi retired getting back. My wife had told me that I needed to choose between golf and work, and she was not wrong either.
In my previous golf life I would be able to hit a draw or fade on need by changing my stance to closed/open, but my natural shot with a square stance was a gentle draw so I must have been hitting a nice inside out swing.
Now I just cant seem to do it, so tips to swing from inside would be greatly appreciated.
In the meanwhile, I have found that with a closed stance I am gaining 20 yards plus on the driver because I get a 'cheat' inside out swing. My question is, is it OK to continue with a closed stance to get my draw or should I persevere to hit a 'correct' inside out swing with a square stance.
Sorry for the long post.
EDIT: I now have setup a sim with a launch monitor so I can see what I am doing wrong.
Terrific instruction! Graphics were the best also.
Thank you - really appreciate it
Oddly enough I’m that guy that’s almost always hitting dead straight with my irons. Unless I actively try to hit a fade or draw, I just naturally hit it on a rope to whoever I’m aimed. Another reason why I’m splitting my set into the P7CB from 7 or 8 to gap. I currently have 790s and ordered one CB to test. Can’t believe how amazing it is and much easier to hit than I was expecting. I’ll probably move into the 770 in 4-6 before next spring, but for now just doing the CBs cause my 790s are only 5 months old. I just returned to golf after 15 years, so I wasn’t sure where I’d be. Definitely like riding a bike with the irons and putting. But driver definitely needed work and chipping outta the rough
I hit my natural swing which is a fade sometimes a slice. I try so hard to draw because it just looks sexy. Gonna look for the draw for your driver video you mentioned. That’s what I really wanna draw.
Completely agree! I’m the same - this is the draw video th-cam.com/video/cw41ZvQEjNc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=udyrEWZXUMYmhu4T
Thanks for watching 🙌🏼
Keep the fade. Aim left. You do not want a two-way miss!
Hi,
love the idea of either fading or drawing, more than anything else there is somuch more freedom to swing. At 3:55, i try this setup, moving ball up and then opening, result has been Topping the ball, cant figure out why? Also if I try the Draw setup, The strike is better than ever but the ball goes straight or a slight fade.
Please advice. Thanks
You may be swaying in your backswing. Try to imagine your sternum directly over the ball in your backswing.
@@thescratchplan thank you , for replying, will try it. But this video has been a game changer for me.
Does the stance change at all?
Alex, I struggle releasing the face too much. I can get an in to out path, but end up hitting a pull hook. How do I leave the face more open?
You can try weakening your grip. You probably have a very strong grip right now
What is the model and brand of radar that you use?
full swing
Toe and heel in line? In line with what exactly?
Can you provide a link to the driver video you mentioned
which one was that now?🤣
Great video Alex
Glad you enjoyed it
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He’s right! I’ve been working on my shot shape the past couple of weeks. I can fade, draw or straight shoot right where I want to (most of the time lol) and I’ve been swinging the same way he’s explaining it here! For my fade, I think of it like chopping wood, I’m out with the club and come down and inwards. For the draw I tuck my right elbow in deep and turn early to go from in to out. For straight, well I just swing straight lol.
I watch a lot of online instruction from multiple sources, and I have found that you are one of the best. Thanks for all the content.
Appreciate that thank you ❤️
wouldn't it be better to move feet right/left first and then ball position? otherwise the ball position changes when you rotate your feet
So I’m not great at golf. I usually shoot in the mid 80’s but I can’t shape a shot to save my life. I hit it straight and I don’t really see the point in hitting anything other than a straight shot unless something is in the way. If it’s a dogleg I’ll cut the corner or hit it to the straightaway. What am I missing because it seems really difficult to shape the ball?
When you learn how to shape it, you’ll wonder why you didn’t do it sooner, fades & power fades are super easy to hit when you understand how to do it.
Draws are fun to hit too
Straight shots are a nightmare, always pull or push them
@@georgejung5429 I’m gonna make it my goal to learn to shape it this winter. I might not use it but at least I’ll be able to do it.
@@joeappleby9000
You’ll use it, trust me, get it practiced, and learn to take it to the course, I found that bit the hardest part of it all.
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Thank you 🙌🏼🙌🏼
interesting, id never close my club head, since i naturally draw my irons i used to open my face to try hit it fade/cut but now im learning to just come over the ball.. closing the club head seems like a disaster
Yesssah
The biggest highlight for me is to give up trying to hit it straight. A friend of mine can do it but it’s just too tough for me
Problem with my game is I over compensate the shot . I don’t trust my out to in swing or my in to out swing . Mostly on the down swing.
This might be pointless but I've not seen a good description or video of it yet. I'm newish to golf and keep getting coaches that just tell me to release the club. My brain fries when they tell me to release it and I get so lost in thought. What do we mean about releasing the club and what does it look like across irons, woods and drivers.
I’ll go into more of this on another video for you
really interesting
thank you!
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Alex don’t forget you are talking to lefty s as well
It's literally the same thing but flipped. Pretty easy to figure out
Trust me bro
I look at as feet on start line face at finish line
All creators using these titles. Its like every week is a revelation that makes you a scratch golfer 😂
meh i draw too much. i literally dont hit my driver most of the time just because i draw it so much
Just try to push your hands forward at address and feel like you hitting a flop shot .
I would try moving my front back a little at address.Maybe a couple of inches.Try trial and error
Yeah but you are not explaining how to get the club correct.???!! Left palm down facing the ground, right palm up facing the target at impact.
I thought I heard you say that you would never try to teach anyone to hit a straight shot. That sounds a bit bonkers, if you don't mind me saying. Here is my logic on that. I hit a straight ball and sometimes will get a slight draw. not a big deal and easy to allow for. I get a straight ball because I have (1) a square (or near square) clubface at impact, and (2) a neutral swing path. I would be a good candidate for hitting a fade or draw under your guidance because I have a sense of what square is at impact and also as sense of a neutral path. But, in the same video that you are saying you would never teach a straight shot, you are asking people to apply skills that would require an even more complex clubface alignment than one for a straight shot, and a path that is more complex (alignment wise) than one for a straight shot. I love your videos and your ideas but in this case I would say better guidance to golfers would be something along the lines of first learning to have a repeatable swing with a square face and a neutral path, and then once you are fairly comfortable with the results from that, then try and learn to draw and fade. If you were trying to teach a 15 year old pitcher how to throw a curve in the strike zone, I would first say "let me see that you can hit the strike zone with your fastball with some consistency first." because if you can't throw strikes on a pitch with little or no spin, then you are not ready to throw breaking balls. I hope you see the analogy Alex. You need to be able to control your clubface and path before you can draw or fade, and the easiest way to get those two skills are to try hitting straight shots over and over again. Once again, love your videos.
Disagree. Hitting straight shots is like walking a tight wire. Drawing and fading is like powering into the curves on the racetrack.
When someone says “trust me” after building a channel by stealing from talented people. You know not to trust.
Steeling?
I didn’t hear a logical argument for never trying/learning to hit the ball straight. Whether you are trying to master a straight ball flight, or a curved ball flight, both require controlling club path and club face. Learn to reduce club path and club face deviation as low as possible. Once you master that, then learn to intentionally alter both to control ball flight curvature right or left.
Talk to much don't show nothing
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Hey guys everyone report back after watching this. Did you need a golf lesson again? Did this transform you into a 5 handicap? More snake oil clickbait.
He clearly says “this lesson” not every aspect of the game
He changed the original title since I commented. Because he knows what's up.
He does like to sensationalize his titles!
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thanks for your thoughts james 😄
Way to much info for an amateur man!
Thanks for the view
I very much doubt that this is how pro's doing fades/draws. They are not aiming to the left/right of the pin nor changing the positions of the ball. they change the direction of the swing by going more/less shallow and adding more/less wrist rotations.
Why not? This is how you fade and draw the ball…
There are a multitude of ways to achieve that. Most pros who fade it a lot do aim left into the woods and have the ball fade in the fairway. His explanation isthe simplest way to have amateurs have the feels it takes to maybe try and have shot shapes in their games.
this is how you get worse at golf