2004 VW New Beetle Transmission Fluid & Filter Change MK4 VW Episode 1
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- I dropped the transmission pan and replaced the filter today on the Beetle. The fluid and filter appear to be original, so this is LONG overdue. I have a sluggish 3-4 shift with no faults in the TCU, so this is step one. Let's see if this helps the delay in the shifting. I will be using valvoline MaxLife ATF which meets the VW specifications.
I like how you added transmission fluid from below. I took the battery and battery tray out to attach a funnel from above, which was much more difficult. Will try it your way next time.
I have taken out that battery tray too many times for electrical work. Lol. I wasn’t going to do it again if I didn’t have to. But this way worked really well. Thanks for watching!
I think you were smart using the Valvoling Transmission Fluid. Rough shifting sounds like a solenoid problem.
I just figured I would follow up. I have done two fluid changes and the transmission shifts so smooth and the Valvoline Max has never caused an issue. Thank you for watching and the input!
Good work Im gonna get after a rusty couple a struts today. Much appreciated brother!
Best of luck to you! Thanks for watching! I hope the job went okay for you.
Nice job.
Boss after refilled the atf and now how to leveling it ? 😁
If you have a car on level ground, or you have a jacked up and the car is level. You let the transmission warm up and shift through all the gears and then top off the transmission fluid through the fill port. When the fluid starts to dribble back out it’s full.
Hello, I have an 02 Beetle GLX Turbo with 4 speed AT. Shifting hard into 3rd gear. How do you know how much fluid to put in? Do you fill from the top until it starts to overflow? Thank you for this video.
Yes, make sure to have the vehicle either on level ground or jack it up so it’s level. Proper procedure is running the vehicle till the transmission is it operating temp and then slowly adding fluid until it dribbles out. Shift through all the gears and return it to park. Add fluid again until it dribbles out and you’re done. Thank you for taking the time to watch, I hope this helps!
@@copenhagenblue8417 OK, I got the filling from above part. Thank you. However, at what point do you check the fluid level in the pan? The pan has the two inch (approx.) plastic cylinder shaped insert which is designed to "self-level" the fluid. Aren't you supposed to (at some point) inject fluid into the plastic insert (from the BOTTOM of the pan) until there is more than an adequate amount fluid in the pan- at which point you should pull your clear flexible fill hose off and allow any excess fluid to pour out? Again that plastic cylinder shaped insert is there to ensure the fluid will "self level" if too much fluid is in the pan. Self leveling can only occur when the clear flexible fill hose has been pulled off from the bottom and the drain plug is completely out. Please elaborate if you would. Your help is hugely appreciated, and you're the only one who has been able to explain this clearly and concisely.
@@glisse_1 that is entirely a possibility with the factory VW equipment, but it’s nothing that I have or am aware of. I’ve seen that type of procedure done before, but I’ve not had any issues just using the drain/fill plug on the front of the transmission. Might be worth checking Amazon for a special tool or googling it if that something you want to use. But I honestly don’t worry about being that precise with the 01M transmission.
Given how dark your fluid was and how overdue you were for service, would it be advised to do the same in my own MK4 Jetta given that I am experiencing similar conditions? I'm experiencing odd shifting from neutral to 1st when Im accelerating from a stop but once it gets moving it has no issues. I figured adding or replacing the fluid would at least be a step 1 before I am forced to buy a replacement transmission... but I have also been advised that this could harm the transmission as well... what to do?
Honestly, I would check the level first to make sure it’s not a low fluid issue. Then it’s up to you if you want to change the fluid. Since that video I have drained and filled the transmission twice. The fluid comes out dark still, but it’s redder every time. If you ultimately feel your going to end up putting in a transmission, this is worth a shot. I was actually prepared to put a valve body in mine but decided to do this first. If you do go forward with changing it, I wish you the best of luck and if I can help in any way, let me know. :-). Thanks for watching
Hey! Great video! Is that an 01m? My daughter's got a 2002 1.8l turbo... I'm almost certain it's the 4-speed in hers.
Sorry, it took me so long to get back to you, but yes, that is an 01M transmission. I have done a drain in fill twice since I’ve owned it in 8000 miles, it seems to make more of an improvement every time. Fluid level is important to maintain with that transmission. Thanks for watching.
Howdy sir. I got another question for you. Did you happen to use silicone sealant when replacing the gasket or did you just mount it without any? I'm wondering if I need sealing reinforcement or not.
Nope it is just the gasket on a clean surface. No leaks to this day and I am getting ready to drain and fill it again. Thanks for watching!
i wish there was an intro,for people who are not familiar with these cars
Thanks for watching, there’s a lot of info out there on line about them new beetle. Wikipedia would be a great place to start, since it will give everything from a general overview toward in-depth information.
He lifted the car up and got under it
I seen where you put the leveling plug in I’m guessing that’s how you drained it what type and size tool did you use I just got a 01 1.8 turbo and don’t know anything about them thanks in advance
I believe it is a 5 or 7 mm allen to get the drain plug out
My new beetle is on original fluid after 130,000kms. Idling at high rpm (1200) and doesn’t shift very well. Sometimes takes 2 or 3 attempts to start. Its probably time for a fluid change 😂
@@theoassaly3092 high idle would make me think that you have a vacuum leak somewhere. But once you take care of the idle, definitely a transmission fluid changes in order. If anything check the level. But it could also be your valve body, which isn’t too hard to replace, but the part can be kind of pricey.
I have an 09 beetle 2.5 L non DSG automatic with 130k and am so scared to change out my fluid that I am aware of being dark in color I purchased the car used and the trans history is unknown but shift smoothly and effortlessly I have heard so many conflicting info on changing it out for sure no flush but would like to have it changed regardless of being told that in some cases it can do more harm than good like the car may have shifting issues after a simple drop and drain of the old fluid and filter replaced. I would love to see how this went for you? TY
I haven’t posted the follow up video yet because I just finished up doing the timing belt and water pump. But I will tell you that my shifting issue that I had is gone! It’s shifting absolutely perfect now. I think dropping the pan and doing a drain and fill and not a pressure flush, is the best way to go. Dropping the pan only removes about half the fluid, so when you add new fluid and mix it with the old fluid, it replaces a lot of the additives that are worn out. I personally feel that changing your transmission fluid after 100,000 miles isn’t going to cause it to fail, if it’s shifting OK now, changing out half the fluid it shouldn’t change that. A lot of that goes back to older transmissions that didn’t even last 100,000 miles. I was always told that the friction material was the only thing keeping the transmission going with that many miles. But if a drain and fill is going to kill your transmission, it was already on its way out. Obviously I can’t tell you to do it and promise that there won’t be a consequence. But if I was in your shoes, I would drop the pan replace the filter, and put a new fluid and keep enjoying the car. Thanks for watching and I really appreciate the comment!
@@copenhagenblue8417 I plan on doing it for sure and appreciate the feedback! I love my car and want to maintain it and so cannot fathom leaving old fluid in it! Thanks a ton! Video was straight to the point and very helpful BTW!
@@enigmaticobsessions Glad I could be of some help. They really are a lot of fun and I am thinking I will be on the lookout for another one in the future. Maybe this time I'll do a 1.8t? 🙂
What type of a pump are you using on that max life gallon bottle? Or are you putting the transmission fluid in a smaller bottle and pumping it in? I have yet to find a hand-pump that fits a MaxLife gallon bottle
I had originally tried using a hand pump from Harbor freight but it leaked pretty much out of the package, I bought this one at AutoZone I believe. I put one end of the hose down into the bottom of the maxlife bottle and the other end fits perfectly into the opening on the transmission fill hole. Then I just pumped in what I wanted, it was good to go. Let me know if I can be of more help I can always send you pictures or something of what I have.
Nice video. Just wondering if you torqued the oil pan bolt to 11lbs?
Thank you, I want to say that I l torqued them down to 144 in/lbs. So 12 ft/lbs. thanks for watching.
@@copenhagenblue8417 Thanks and have a great weekend!
My odometer also isn’t working the lights are but the digital mileage is not did you fix that ? Looking to find out where to start there
Is your speedometer working? Is the mileage not showing or just not increasing as you drive?
@@copenhagenblue8417 so the lights all work, the backlit, when I turn it on the coolant blue light, the gauges all work gas, speed etc. the only one that doesn’t show is where the mileage would be. I would send a pic but I can’t on here lol
@@juiceboxjonesi no worries. If the actual mileage isn’t showing I would think it is an issue with the instrument cluster. I’d start with taking out the cluster and checking the pin connection. After that maybe look at wiring diagrams to see if you have a bad ground. What year is yours?
@@copenhagenblue8417 that’s the plan this weekend I was going to just replace it but I heard you have to recode the immobilizer?
@@juiceboxjonesi I’m not sure how it interacts with the immobilizer, but it wouldn’t surprise me. Depends on how expensive a cluster is. If you can plug it in, it’ll at least show you if the miles will show up.
Did you have to replace the gasket ?
I replaced it. I’m not sure that I necessarily had to. But I figured it was an easy way to prevent leaks. It was relatively cheap.
Changed my fluid, filter, and gasket and still shifting hard…however the garage only put 4 quarts in and I think they should have put 6 ugh
@@juiceboxjonesi well, if they just dropped the pan and the filter, it’s actually going to be around 4 to 4 1/2 quarts, but you leave the vehicle in park and run it at the same time that you will fill the transmission. When it starts to dribble out of the fill plug, it’s full, so you might want to try topping it off.
I want that cover!!!
Which cover? Lol
@@copenhagenblue8417 the transmission pan cover!
@@jkrebuilt time to search the junk yard!
I was wondering if that’s transmission u have on your new beetle would fit in a 2002 vw cabrio
If it’s a four-speed, automatic, and not the five speed with auto stick, it should be. But I would run your VIN number just to be sure. There are plenty of online databases that should VIN Decode for you and let you know what you have.
How did you take off the drain fill plug
The little red cap you have over the transmission plug itself just splits apart and then the actual drain plug itself just pushes in and snaps down.
Your videos are great did my timing belt perfectly from your video, however I used Valvoline Max life in my 99 Beetle transmission, even checked spec to TL52162, dropped in 3.5 qrts. Slipped so bad could barely get it back in driveway, dumped pan again, luckily I saved old fluid for measurement, dumped that back in and it's fine now, WTF?
Well, one of the fears that people have, when changing transmission fluid that is old is that it will cause their transmission to start slipping. What usually tends to be the case is that it’s the clutch material within the fluid itself that’s giving the clutch packs their grip. I’m kind of surprised though that it went back to being fine after putting the original fluid back in. Especially after the new stuff had mixed in, but I’m glad you were able to get it corrected.
Made absolutely no sense, the beetle is a 99 with 57k miles!! Older lady car, I did 24 years as a Navy Diesel mech so I understand oils, cannot figure this one out, I only changed it because of age of fluid, I'm ordering the high dollar stuff, I know you know$$$, I'll keep you posted, thanks!!!
@@user-qq7bt2pf8w yeah, there are certain fluids in cars that just have to be the right one. Now you’ve got me wondering how I got so lucky that the Valvoline worked for me so well, especially considering I had twice the miles you have. Keep me posted!
It was my F-up, first Volkswagen I've ever owned, my dumb ass was using ramps not realizing that car MUST BE completely level, ( I honestly don't know what I was thinking!! I wasn't!! ) when checking fluid level at temperature, I was down a quart and a half. Thanks again for you videos. Valvoline still working great.
How much fluid does it take?
When I refilled the transmission, it took just a little over 3 quarts. It was a little closer to 3 1/2 when it all is said and done. I did double check and top off the level after driving it a little bit. Thanks for watching!
so did this resolve the shifting issue or was the transmission smoked?
I actually take the car on a test drive at the end of the timing belt video and the shifting issue is resolved. We’ve put about 4,000 miles on it since the fluid exchange and it’s been running great. Once and a while she lags gear engagement (reverse to drive) but it’s most prominent when it’s cold.
@@copenhagenblue8417 Good to know i have a VW transmission acting up and was going to replace the transmission, maybe I will give it a fluid change first and see what happens.
@@jeremypilot1015 definitely give it a try. But I would drop the pan and put on a new filter as well. Once you get it done, be sure to post back, I’d like to hear if it works better. 😃
@@copenhagenblue8417 will do I bought an origin equipment ZF filter and the original Febi Bilstein fluid so fingers crossed. Not too worried if it is spent. I can get a gently used one with a new torque converter for a grand
You could try putting 1qt of LUCAS transmission stop slip in and fill the rest of the way with the new fluid when done changing the fluid and filter. I've seen and heard that the LUCAS stop slip will help with some slipping,but if it's real bad then it's probably time for a new trans..
And thank you COPENHAGEN BLUE for being honest about the transmission pan drop/flush having a bad rep for making transmission worse once changing. If people would do the recommended maintenance on their vehicles there wouldn't be as many issues along the way. It's cheaper to change fluid and filters than engines and transmissions and so on.
If you change the filter on a car that is long overdue for a transmission fluid change / a filter change, won't it potentially cause transmission slipping issues in the future?
I know several people have asked a similar question but for me it's specifically the filter I'm wondering about. I don't know if it's better to keep the old filter with your change and allow the stuff in the old filter to mix with your new fluid + some of the old fluid still in the transmission or if it would be better to go a little cleaner and get a new filter and allow the remaining old fluid in the system solely do the 'mixing' part.
I guess it really depends on what you believe will happen. Some people think that it will ruin the transmission because all the little particulates from the clutch material is what’s giving your transmission “grip” the clutch packs. The other thought process is that if putting in new fluid causes your transmission to fail, it was really already on its way out. I have found that changing out the fluid completely including a filter has worked better for me than changing it without replacing the filter. There’s a video I have on here of a Volkswagen beetle that had some shifting issues when I bought it, I replaced both the filter and the fluid and it has done extremely well. I seem to only make smaller gains on the transit by doing the fluid and no filter. I also would think that the mileage at which you decide to make the decision matters. If the car had close to 200,000 miles on an original transmission, I’d probably change the fluid but not the filter. If you’re catching it a little bit after 100,000 miles I would do both.
Okay. Thank you for your input!
I seen where you put the leveling plug in I’m guessing that’s how you drained it what type and size tool did you use I just got a 01 1.8 turbo and don’t know anything about them thanks in advance
I honestly don't remember the size that I used to get the pan drain plug out or the inner leveling plug. I believe it was a 5mm hex. It was an early video, so I wasn't as good with commentary back then. But once you have it in the air, it is a relatively easy procedure, it just takes patience and time. Thanks for watching!
I seen where you put the leveling plug in I’m guessing that’s how you drained it what type and size tool did you use I just got a 01 1.8 turbo and don’t know anything about them thanks in advance
I'm curious of this too. I think you can use an Alan wrench but I'm not sure what gauge.
I seen where you put the leveling plug in I’m guessing that’s how you drained it what type and size tool did you use I just got a 01 1.8 turbo and don’t know anything about them thanks in advance