The Two BEST Sleeping Pads For Backpacking? | Neoair Xlite VS Nemo Tensor
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In this video I discuss two of the best sleeping pads on the market for backpacking. The Thermarest Neoair Xlite and the Nemo Tensor (Regular Wide Insulated). Super comfortable pads that will ensure you get a good night sleep on the trail. enjoy.
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Appreciate your personal experiences between these two pads. I also have both and find them comfortable down to about freezing. One correction: the xlite, xtherm and uberlite are actually all insulated with their reflective film.
Solid, comfy video.
Thank you Sir Bryce.
This production can't come at a better time.
The call in show was great! I picked up a wide Neoair last year, 25" is amazing!
Videos like this make me drool with envy. I'm still using a Neoair Venture and a Klymit Static V from years ago.
I use the nemo astro light for my warm weather outings. It is an amazing pad.
Great video! Thanks a lot, Bryce!
This was a good review man. I have been thinking about getting the Nemo pad because I need to upgrade. Ain't nothing wrong with having a Coke for the video. That is my drink I can't live without it. Thank you for sharing the video.
I have the older version with premaloft insulation in the mummy shape. Before I had to patch it it weighed in at 15 ozs. With a much better top finish, thicker, no potato chip sound. Its a great pad
Thanks for info Bryce!
Thanks for watching!
I'm a harm sleepers a side sleeper pad I sleep on is only a 2. Trekology ul80 so a cheap air pad works. But I'm looking at getting a warmer pad and your video helps. Thanks for sharing and stay safe. Coming west cool can't wait to see where.
I have the tensor long wide and I love it, before I got an UQ for my hammock I used it accidently on a 16 degree night and I was ok. I was chilly dont get me wrong but surprised I was comfortable enough not to pack it up and leave early
Steve from My Life Outdoors is sending me a Nemo... I've been watching all vids about it and glad to see the pros and cons
Still a useful video Bryce, appreciate it!
Me, I'm sold on the S2S Ether Light XT Insulated (specifically the large Rectangular version as I'm fairly tall and have rather wide shoulders). That thing is so very comfortable. Sure, it's far from the lightest, but the energy (and morale) boost from a good night's rest is plenty of compensation for that.
West trip? I live on the west coast and there are so many great places, Yosemite? Goat Rocks? can't wait to hear where. Thanks for the info on the pads, I have a Klymit V that I enjoy very much, a little heavy but like you pointed out, it's worth it.
The Exped Schoozle pad pump fits the Tensor valve (well enough, at least.) The medium UL version weighs 2.0 oz on my scale. It can be used as a pack liner, but isn't waterproof. I use it for my quilt and clothes instead.
Vortex pump sack...you gotta get it Bryce. 4-6 light breaths fills my Tensor effortlessly and it doubles as a dry bag at just 2 oz.
Plus it stops you from blowing moist air into your mat and making it mouldy!
Awesome breakdown without all tech specs
TH-cam sent me zero notifications when you dropped this video and I'm obviously subbed and I hit the bell WTH
Great info man 👍
Thanks slyly unleashed!
sun burn is looking good........keep up it!!!
I have the Nemo Vector Insulated pad and it’s the best sleeping pad I’ve ever used. I like the Vector for the foot pump built in. Never mind the weight penalty, I can’t stand blowing up my sleeping pad.
Nice! Sounds interesting
Nice viddy fella , looking like Nemo upgrade for me 👍
I live in Ukraine and have never been to the USA. But I noticed that a lot of travelers in USA use colder things. I think this is due to the drier climate. When it is wet, it is very cold. I recently used an RV 3 rug on the river bank and it was a little chilly.
I use the Neoair Xlite in the women's version for an even better r-value (5.4) at less weight (12oz). It would be nice if it it came in a wide version though.
This video reminds me of why I use my pack liner to inflate my pad 🤣 BTW the Xlite and Xtherm both use the same "insulation" the Xtherm just uses three layers vs one in the Xlite.
Using Nemo Tensor uninsulated. Same tip: Get the wider version! 💯 On regular width elbows tend to hang outside the pad and catch cold.
Just got my reg-wide Tensor insulated. I’ve tried the XLite mummy style pad and I just can’t get comfortable. Maybe I’ll get less picky the more I backpack. For now, I’ll gladly carry that extra 6 oz for a good night’s sleep.
2:22 that’s what she said
Investing in sleep is critical. The dollars spent and the ounces carried all are worth it.
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Hey bud😁✊🔥
@@Canadian_Craftsman hey man!! 🦑
I use the pump bag with my nemo regular wide, and can fill it with 4 breaths. You just blow into the opening from about a foot away and the bag fills right up.
Dan didn't give me the pump bag 😆
What a jerk! 😝
The pump sack is suppose to keep the moisture from your breath out of the pad and help prevent mold. At least that’s my understanding of it. 🤷♂️
I’ll never go back to not using a pump sack. They keep moisture out of your pad which does prevent mold and mildew and they hold heat better with dryer air inside them. Another benefit is your pad gets filled with cool outside air. After blowing up a pad with your warm breath it will cool down inside the pad and cause a drop in pressure after letting it sit.
Great comparison. Lol at Becker. I have ripped on him, but watch every single one of his videos too, he puts out some good stuff. And you can't beat an ice cold coca cola classic!
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Oh man I feel ya. I actually did the same thing with the mic 2 weeks ago. Its the worst
Thanks for the comparison. I think the best reviews are personal likes and dislikes. It brings out some likes and dislikes that some others might miss. like the Neo being a bag of sun chips. It might not always be a bad thing to some people.
Haha! Totally a bag of sun chips. But if you sleep great on it who cares! I'm better at personal experience videos than specifications. 😄
My nemo tensor alpine wide is 26 oz with the stuff sack it came with. Its R value is 4.8. It is 3 inches thick and 25 inches wide...so worth the carry weight for being a side sleeper. Doing some section hiking in the mountains where in the summer it can get in the 35f to 40f degree range. So worth the comfort to carry it. My total pack with food and water will be 25 to 27 pounds. It will be fine considering I could do 40 pounds for my height. Rather not but I think 25 to 27 with my nemo and my Helinox chair zero as comfort items will be fine.
Is it too warm for summer use?
X-Therm is extremely warm. I had it out down around 0 degrees. No cold spots at all. I definitely agree I wouldn't use it in the summer.
You are talking Fahrenheit aren’t you?
@@stephenlambert9826 yes
@@KingJamez76 thank you.I won’t ever get down to those temps as I’m from England lol but good to know I will be good down to maybe -5 if I get any luck
I have a Neo Air Xlite Max. It’s a wide/regular/rectangle version of the Xlite. Pretty sure they’re discontinued now. I’m gonna be bummed when it finally shits the bed. I have a Florida Trail thru hike and a ton of nights on The AT on it
what I like about my nemo is using the pump sack and having to blow it up
At least the Xlite changed their valves to the winglock which helps A LOT ... no issues anymore
1 beer is a healthier option than 1 Coke. It's beer 2,3,4,5,6 that are the problem :) I have the Nemo Wide/long and it takes 5 breaths using the bag it comes with...
I just bought the Nemo so excited !!(=✌💚
Yeah sorry about that, glad you didn’t throw up, I meant to check in on ya 😅
I’ve got the xTherm for winter camping and love it, they say it’s way more crinkly than the xlite (which makes sense it, it’s the insulated one), but it doesn’t bother me even the slightest 🤷🏻♂️So if anyone’s thinking about getting one of the Thermarest pads, but you’re scared of the dreaded crinkling, unless you’re the worlds lightest sleeper, it’s not a factor.
😆😆 it was great fun dude. Appreciate it! Schills made it worth my while. Haha. And yea the crinkle of the neoair is just nit picking... when it comes down to it, it just needs to be comfy 👍👍
@@BryceNewbold I’m glad man, it was a lot of fun! I was finally able to find the long wide Nemo tensor in Canada, so it’s on order and I’m stoked 😅
Tall people problems 😂
How did you deal with the leaking on the Nemo? I've had issues with that too. It doesn't seem like it's actually punctured anywhere...
Just have to be careful with the valve. I just make sure it seats perfectly
I have been looking at the big agnes q core slx sleeping pads. What's your opinion on those?
They look super comfortable. Although I've never tried one
I hope the west trip to here is Mt. Adams (close to my house)
Why didn’t you use the pump sack for the Nemo?
Do you have the women’s model? It’s just basically 6 inches shorter but with a higher r value of 5.4 which is awesome. Weight stays the same as the regular neo air. Wish I had know about it before I purchased the regular one.
No I don't but wish I did! I bought this used off of a friend. The women's version sounds like a win/win for us shorties 😆
For sure
Two things: 1) That Coca Cola is probably worse for you than any Stout, IPA or Brown Ale. LOL 2) I bought the NEMO Tensor Wide about a month ago and waiting for my Zpacks Duplex to get here so I can try them both out. Of course I blew it up in my living room and laid on it. I agree, it was quite comfortable and I'm looking forward to trying it out.
Save yourself lots of money and by a Decathlon mat. Oh and their incredible Down jacket.
I’m like you and find the Nemo more comfortable but after only 7 nights use I did get a leak recently and I’m always super careful when selecting campsite and run my hands across the ground where I’ll have the pad ... was able to fix it but have to admit that I don’t have much confidence as I have for all my NeoX’s and Xtherm’s2 of each ( short and women neox, more r-value, and reg Xtherm 5.7r and a wider version mummy Xtherm with 6.9r, newer style) never got a leak with them
I now also have the 1/8 and 1/4 gossemear gear foam pads that I’ve been using and I agree. But I’ll take my Nemo on a overnighter but anymore than than that I take my neo air wide cause it’s more reliable
Since all air pads are airtight, don't you get sweaty in hot weather since you're essentially sleeping on a plastic bag full of air? I'm a hammocker and sleep on a closed cell 1/2", half-length pad (the "frame" of my frameless backpack) whenever I use a shelter or camp tarp-style where there are no trees. It was hot on top of Max Patch last week! My back got sweaty! In the hammock, I can choose to have cool air surround me when I sleep.
You blew the heck out of those pads I bet they follow you around everywhere now🤣👍
Is the west trip related to the call-in show? 🤔
Neo Air Xlite, 100%!!!
Yeah I'd say you def sleep like a rock hahaha. The baffling system is completely different in these two pads. I have not tried the Thermarest but have the Tensor insulated and it's the most comfortable pad I've used. I'm scared to drop the money to try anything else at this point. Great point about investing in your sleep. I think I bought 3-4 other cheap and crappy pads before finally shelling out the dough.
Why didn’t you use the inflate sack?
Blowing all that moisture into these laminated pads is a bad idea. Trapped moisture in a waterproof/airtight grows bacteria & breaks down the lamination over time. The NeoAir pocket inflator is well worth it. No extra moisture or lightheaded feeling. Also, it allows time to do other camp setup stuff....it takes care of itself! 👍
I have a neoair but it’s really narrow for me. I am a different “body type” than you so that is probably why. I rock my exped down mat 7. Not that well known and I think it’s a perfect balance of size weight and r value. And most importantly price!
Heard good things about those 👍
@@BryceNewbold I think they are great but each to their own. It is warm. I also added a thermarest tupo luxe to the collection for care camping. It’s crazy comfy. 10cm thick!!!!
Nothing like replacing a good beer with some diabetes in a can🍻 Nemo tensor for the win 🥇 audio is not that bad🤙
Haha! Right?? 😆 and yea on my phone the audio doesn't sound much different. Luckily I had my back up mic on.
Alcohol also causes diabetes and high cholesterol.
and for the record...can we get over how many breathes it takes. Its about a minute in your life to blow up and you just walked up a freaking mountain.....I'd like to think most folks could handle this pain after a hike. We find the silliest things to get worked up about. BTW Ive had mine down to 10 degrees with zero issues. I did have a proper quilt for the weather. EE 10 degree. the bomb
Guberlite Regular Wide 11 oz
Why aren't you using the Nemo pump sack (included?) - literally a few breaths, and maybe a minute to inflate. Easy peasy!
Why don’t you use the pump bag????
I use my pack liner bag, works great.
Dan didn't give me one with it 😆😆. Honestly wouldn't bring it anyway. A few breathes to save some weight sounds better to me. even if it's only a couple grams 😄👍
@@BryceNewbold not a good trade in my book! This breath/gram value might be a new backpacking metric. Seems like a scientific approach could solve this equation. How many extra breaths is an extra gram of weight worth?
@@nathan.4130 Do you just use your hand to fit it around the opening??
Sea2Summit Ether Light XT Insulated. 4” of insulated luxurious comfort, which might be more comfy than the Nemo. AND no killing your self blowing it up with its pump/stuff sack.
Love my Tensor, and I use my ultra lite air pump.
Dan Becker layers his X therm and his Nemo.
The Nemo insulated regular mummy is only 14 oz. That's 1.5 oz more than the Xlite with all the benefits. More of an apples to apples comparison and NOT UL vs glamping like the one in the vid.
I rock the XLITE and XTHERM all year, depending on our Ohio weather! Fuck Nemo 😜
I returned my first Nemo and the second with three patches! very disappointed with this product 😡
That's unfortunate. Hopefully mine doesn't see the same fate
I enjoy you and your videos but I learn almost nothing from them.
Tensor all day. End of discussion
Mics man...
Ha.. tell me about it
F... Dan Becker
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