What is the BEST SLEEPING PAD? Tensor vs Xlite vs Ether Light XT
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If you are trying to decide on what the best sleeping pad is for your camping or backpacking trip, then look no further. The Thermarest Neoair Xlite, Sea to Summit Ether Light XT, and Nemo Tensor sleeping pads are the most popular pads out there and I will be doing a full comparison. Let's find out which one is the best sleeping pad!
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You are one of the reasons I don't do too many gear reviews. Your reviews are the best out there IMO. So much information! Very well done
Thanks Justin! That means a lot!
@@JustinOutdoors I mean it man. Top shelf material.
@@ItsGoodintheWoods did you get snow? I’m hoping it’s a good snow and hot tent season this year. I had bad luck camping last year, I need a better run
@@mobilewintercamp7515 We got about an inch!! Enough to be exciting! I am hoping for a banger year........fingers crossed!
@@RonnelB. In my opinion
I was literally searching for this last night and was frustrated about a lack of good comparisons. You rock dude!
I was looking for the same thing a few weeks ago, I ended up getting the tensor, I don't regret it in the slightest
@@nickb6624 I bought the tensor but it was just not comfortable enough and thing kept leaking. The latter was super frustrating on the trail. I think it’s hit or miss for a lot of folks
Average sized guys should consider the Women's Ether Light XT Long. You get the width while getting a 72" length vice 78" for the men's, without having to get the rectangular men's pad. Plus, you get a little more insulation for R value of 3.5.
Agreed, that’s what I did and it’s great.
Same here. I've been using that pad for the past 5 years and it's still going strong. I've used all the pads in this review and the S2S Ether Lt Womens Lg is hands down the most comfortable pad out of all of them.
Your best review to date! :-) I own all three of these mats (and several more) and concur with your experience and ratings on every single point. You covered all the bases, and I also agree that for me - as a side sleeper who tends to get cold when temps get down to freezing or slightly below - the Nemo Tensor is the way to go. I love the Sea to Summit, but I did feel colder on it at similar near-freezing temps, especially at my hips and shoulders (which obviously come closer to the ground). Although comfortable to the max, the Sea to Summit sometimes doesn‘t keep me warm enough. Will stick with the Nemo from here on out, always with an thin foam pad underneath for adding protection and warmth doing double duty as a daytime nap pad, a yoga pad, a chilling-at-the-lake or wet-grass pad, etc. Nobody should ever rely 100% on an inflatable pad when deep into the wild, as in 2-3 walking days from civilization. Learned my lesson the hard (and cold) way once. A foam pad like me weighs only about 80-90 grams, and is well worth the weight penalty. I just roll it up and strap it to the top of my pack. If it rains, it gets wet, but also drys really fast. Just thought I‘d add that idea for anyone being seduced by any of these inflatables. When punctures or bad valves happen out in the wild, you may or not be able to find and patch the leaks. Having a Plan B is important. Anyhow, great review! This one will surely end up being the most-clicked review of these pads on TH-cam!
Great points Scott and I really wish the Ether Light XT was comparably warm to the Tensor. Luckily, the tensor is a great pad as well! I definitely get the punctures and bad valves point but it's also important to carry a repair kit. I've fixed slow leaks in the field as well as busted valves. And a good repair kit extends past the sleeping pad to all other gear as well. A tip for patching a leak is to use your soap and water and mix it up and spread it over the pad where you think there might be a leak. The leak will create a soap bubble!
@@JustinOutdoors Yes, being prepared to repair in the field is a must. The one time I would hav needed to, though, I didn‘t have the patience to soap up my entire mat and look for bubbles in the freezing cold and dark, and there would have been no way to wash the soap off anyhow (with perhaps the latter being negligible in an emergency situation). Back home, I discovered the valve was defective, and as far as I could determine was not field-reparable. Needless to say I‘ll never trust another mat from Exped! The one I had was ultralight, but had only been out about twice before, and had been babied like crazy. Exped had me send it in, and then told me the „repair“ would cost so much that I could easily buy a new mat, instead. End of Exped for me. Anyhow, there are better makers out there, now, and Nemo is definitely growing from strength to strength. They started out somewhere in the shadows, but are now entering the limelight. I also very much love their Nemo Hornet 2P (two-person) tent, regular fabric (not the ultralight one). It‘s nearly self-standing and offers tons of room and headspace, great views, easy side entry, etc.
Great review! My only comment is that it may be important to inform viewers that these "three season" pads have an R value measurably less than the ISO standard (R-4.8), which is what is used to establish sleeping bag temperature ratings. The Nemo Tensor and Ether light pad's R values are 27% to 33% less than ISO, which means that using these pads will greatly impact one's dependency on their sleeping bag's temperature rating. Often, folks like to "push" their sleeping bags into the shoulder seasons, and then end up miserable because of inadequate insulation underneath of them.
Definitely a major and under looked factor for sleep systems and probably worthy of it's own video!
@@JustinOutdoors One thing to consider is that the ground temperature is seldom the same as the air, and conduction varies a lot. I've slept on snow when the overnight air was +50F; other times it was -10F. Dry forest duff or packed powder snow insulates well, ice, mud, and rock don't. It's definitely worthy of investigation.
Awesome roundup. Same sentiments we've seen in so many reviews and videos of these three pads, but this video is now such a succinct resource. Feel like this video should be the reply to the majority of "what sleeping pad should I get" posts.
This is a great comparison, Justin! I just found this but glad that I bought the NEMO Tensor Insulated Wide pad last year. I'm very happy with it as a side sleeper who wakes up with the tiniest noise. The Tensor really is quiet and comfortable, IMO!
I used my Ether Light XT last night, it was just around freezing, I was fine but that is about as low as you can go. I find it super comfy.
Totally agree Justin.
I sold both of my Thermarests and don't use the Etherlight anymore due to the noise it makes on all of my tent floors.
I love the Tensor and have since bought the Alpine version as well.
Great work thanks.
For those of you that have a dyneema or single wall trekking pole designed tent the X Lite pad at 2.5in is the best choice and gives you a bit more space between your face/head/feet and the wall of the tent. Combine the pad with a 20”x40” 1/8” foam pad and you get even more warmth (increased R value) and it provides even greater protection to the inflatable pad from possible ground punctures. Plus the foam pad can be used as a sit pad, yoga mat, or nap mat and only weighs 1.7oz. Almost forgot, it also helps hold your inflatable in place (no slippage) and lastly the size is perfect for unloading all your gear on when you get to camp especially if it’s wet out. I love gear that has multiple uses…
I emphatically agree with all of that and I believe it is a best practice to always carry some form of foam pad. For most conditions, I have transitioned from the1/8 inch EVA foam pad to the 1/4 inch EVA foam pad (3/4 length), and for cold weather camping I usually bring a thermarest ridge rest of one design or another to complement whatever air mattress I am using.
What is seldom discussed is the heat loss from the edges of the air mattresses. Such heat loss likely reduces the R factor significantly due to air circulation within the pad in "real life" usage, compared to the laboratory test conditions where there is not an actively moving subject on top of the pad.
MLD usually sells larger sheets of EVA foam that can be cut to a 25 inch width if desired.
For warmth, the foam pad should be placed on top of the air mattress.
Personally, I always go with the "wide" air mattresses. As an example, the NeoAir in 20 inch versions collapse so much at the edges that they behave more like something narrower than 20 inches. I'm also six feet tall, 170 lbs which drives me towards a wider pad, but even my adult daughter who is about 5ft 9 inches and quite thin, prefers a wide (25 inch) pad despite the greater weight.
For people wanting to take the Ether Lite XT down to some colder weather, they also have an Extreme version, with an R value of 6.9 or something like that. It does double the weight, bringing it to around 2 pounds(I think), but definitely a lot warmer. You can recognize it because it’s black not grey.
Did not work for me, even being 10cm thick, it was uncomfortable, I went back to my Exped Synmat 7cm, just because it was comfortable, but less rigid.
Thanks so much for including the Sustainability information! This isn't included often in reviews and is appreciated.
My wife and I both have the Ether Lite. Great pads for camping in England, even in winter.
I've got the Sea to Summit Etherlight Women's Large. It was the best fit for me - I couldn't afford the Tensor in the UK, and I'm a curvy gal who side-sleeps, and I have inflammatory arthritis so I'm happy to pay the small weight penalty.
I'm delighted with my purchase, thank you for the very helpful review!
My second choice was the Big Agnes Rapide (wide regular) but the Etherlight won out in terms of comfort!
I got a used Tensor through REI Used for $100 and it rocks, in a comfortable way!
What a steal! I got the tensor insulated long wide (Thanks to Justin’s review) with my dividend from REI
Justin - thanks for this comprehensive and thoroughly video. You gotta review the new Exped Ultra 5R in this series. I recently bought one myself after watching and comparing. Its so comfortable, quiet, warm, supporting and has a Fabrice that is less slippery and feels even nice against bare skin. My Medium Wide Mummy 5R weights 530g in my scale at home. Last but noch least - the outer baffles are also insulated. I had an TAR XLite and an STS UL imsulated and I think the Exped beats both in comfort and warmth, although its a bit heavier than both, but comparable to the tensor alpine and lighter than the etherlight. REI got those Exped Ultras in Stock now and sectionhiker reviewed two of them.
Last but not least - initially I wamted to go with the nemo but after reading the comments in their homepage I am glad I didnt.
A nice collection of sleeping pads you have there. I have the Tensor , and I really enjoy it! Bought it new for $145 USD
Insane details in this review - well done. I bought the large rectangular Ether Light XT pad based solely on one of your earlier reviews. No regrets
High five for talking about sustainability! I don't hear this often, even if its an important aspect for more and more shoppers!
Or it makes you sound like a political activist which can be a turn off because it's what most people are trying to get away from. Briefly mentioning it is one thing, talking about it for 5 minutes is something else. When you have three good products and you like one of them, but you feel you're being pressured to buy a different product because that company has slightly better sustainability practices, I think that's going to far.
@@Valkaneer yeah i typically prefer my stuff made it se asian sweatshops ;especially if it saves me a few bucks ....
@@billstuart9394 Before you try to make someone sound stupid perhaps you should know what you're talking about. Sweat shops have nothing to do with sustainability🙄. If you know what you're talking about sustainability is about ecological impact / green compliant manufacturing.
These scoring methods are useful, simple, and easy for most people to digest. But my reaction to them is that they often result in badly skewed results that are somewhat comical. (Justin does a great Job - among the best of all outdoor gear reviewers - and part of his goal is to "KISS" so I do not intend to criticize him or this review, but I am going to make a suggestion).
A couple of examples, if three pads (or any item) are virtually equally comfortable but they are forced into a progressive score of 1, 2, 3 then that portion of the weighting will be "overweighted".
Ditto on weight. What if they were all within one ounce of each other?
What I would prefer is for reviewers to present at least one ranking which is based solely on function and omitting other elements that have no bearing on function.
Do NOT include price, sustainability, color, etc. in the "function" ranking.
Price - We can all assess our personal price benefit ratio.
Sustainability - that is also a personal assessment that is irrespective of the function. Etc.
Based on my experience, it is fairly widely agreed that if a camper values durabitity, lightweight and a higher degree of warmth, then one of the NeoAir's is the way to go (provided the noise is not an issue or they wear ear plugs, and excluding the Uberlite from the "durable" list).
If an individual is somewhat larger, or values comfort more than weight and bulk, and the ultimate R factor in the pad itself is not required, then the Tensor Insulated is the way to go. Lots of other pads fit in between those two ranges.
Love my Tensor, great video! All 3 are great proven options.
FYI if you love the tensor like me but winter camp and are willing to take a bit more weight, Nemo makes a “mountaineering” version with a bit more insulation.
It's on my list of pads to try!
Very helpful - thanks Justin!
I will go for the Nemo Tensor. Unfortunately not available in Europe at present, as so many other quality pads/bags/tents...
I really appreciate the ranking chart you provided and considering sustainability. Of course, weighting the ranking values to interject an "importance" value to the rankings can also skew the results to one pad over another. For example, being a side-sleeper, comfort is of utmost importance to me, so I give that a higher "importance" value. Cost is least important to me (I hate to say it). Weight is negligible between the three as we are talking a matter of a few grams/ounces here, so I throw that stat out as an outlier. I own all three pads. I guide backpack trips in the Colorado backcountry during the summer months (sleep 25+ nights above 10K feet per season) and can tell you that if I don't sleep well, the following day I can be hangry. So, I like the Tenser or Etherlite for my needs with a slight favor to the Etherlite because of its thickness preventing that dreaded hip-pointer bottoming out on the ground (I sleep with a pad slightly deflated to soften the surface for comfort).
Here's an element that has become part of my sleep system just this year (2022): I use a Gossamer Gear 1/8" Thinlite Foam Pad under my inflatable sleeping pad. It does three things really well: 1) add 0.5 of R-value 2) prevents the inflatable sleeping pad from slipping around as I shift at night, and 3) reduces the inflatable pad noise "squeekyness" as I flip-flop around. I previously thought of a foam pad as a gimic, but I can tell you it isn't. And for adding an additional 3 oz to my pack, it's well worth it to give me a better night's sleep!
Well said. I agree completely. I moved to the 1/4 inch EVA pad which is also available in larger sheets from MLD (Mountain Laurel Designs). I find that my air mattresses are more comfortable with a foam pad on top as well.
Here is a "test" readers can do that is easiest to execute when car camping in temps below freezing, or other situations below freezing where you have available a folding camp chair with seat back.
Sit on the chair without any additional pad and see how long it takes for your backside to get cold (not too long).
Sit on the pad with a 1/4 inch EVA foam pad on top of it (the pad will go on top of your sleeping bag later). It will literally feel like the chair has a heater in it. Seriously. I have been amazed at the difference. Then imagine what it does when it is added to your sleep system.
I carry the 1/8 version when the purpose is primarily moisture protection when sitting or resting on the ground or for pad puncture protection. I bring the 1/4 version in situations where I want the back up R value.
Back Sleepers: Therm-a-rest Neoair Xlite
Side Sleepers: Sea to Summit Ether Light XT Insulated
Affordability: Nemo Tensor Insulated
Addendum: Side sleepers who tend to be cold: Nemo Tensor. And I own all three of these pads. Justin’s impressions totally align with mine. One more category: All folks whose least favorite part of backpacking is deflating pads: NOT the Xlite. 😉
@@scottbecker3485 The XLite has a new valve that releases the air almost as fast as the Tensor now. Do some homework.
Affordability: Nemo
Lowest quality build: Nemo
This pad is prone to failure for heavy users, do some research.
@@danielstevens5280 Thanks for your view on the valve. Did research before my remarks, and at least 3 trusted TH-cam reviewers concurred that the improved valve, though better, was not as good as the competition‘s. But opinions will obviously vary.
@@danielstevens5280 Yes, I could well imagine the Xlite is more durable. I baby both it and the Nemo, and both are still fine.
Just two years and already the Neoair and Tensor have gotten warmer and more comfortable, the new BA Rapide is making waves, and the REI Helix is easily the best budget option.
But still the Etherlight XT has yet to respond 😢 Hope they get on it in time for next season
Ether Light is awesome. At first I thought it was noisy but when I pumped it up super firm it was pretty much silent (and even more comfortable). Just wish it was warmer.
Great review Justin, as always! However, I beg to differ with you on the quality metric in your final tally. I recently bought a Nemo Tensor insulated, Reg/Wide, so the exact same pad you're reviewing. Second night out, it developed a tear in a crease on the top of the pad. I treat my gear very carefully, and I handled this pad with extra caution based on many poor reviews on its durability on REI's website. It was definitely not punctured and it was not overinflated. It just tore open under normal use.
By contrast, I've been using my S2S Ether Light XT, Womens size Large, for 5 years and have never had a problem. This pad IMO is the best little secret in the backpacking pad market. It's 72"L x 25"W, R-value is 3.5. The shape is a brilliantly designed oval that puts the width where want it, at the hips (the classic mummy shape works great, if your happen to be named Frankenstein). Weight is 618g/21.8oz on my scale, which includes the stuff sack that doubles as a pump sack, and a repair kit that includes a spare diaphragm for the valve. I'll add that the stuff/pump sack is the best I've ever used. It fills easily and inflates the pad with just 3 breaths. My only complaint is that it's bulkier than the other two when packed down, probably due to the thinsulate, but I can live with that.
Awesome review! Interestingly, the Nemo Tensor fabric is very quiet to the touch but makes an extremely loud “groaning” or “creaking” noise against the floor of my Big Agnes Copper Spur, making it by far the loudest pad I’ve ever used. It’s so loud that it’s unusable. I’m hoping that since the Copper Spur is new, the fabric treatment will break in to stop that noise!
Great video!! Thank you for doing this. I used to use the Big Agnes AXL insulated but found it very uncomfortable. I got the Nemo Tensor insulated and it is much more comfortable and quieter.
Excellent review Justin! Loaded with detail, direct to the point no wandering off topic, organized, no bs no drama. Good job! Thanks! subbed
This review is one of the most valuable out there for sleeping pads. Thanks! I'm wondering if anyone will ever really review the SeaToSummit Ultralight Insulated.
I have that one and it seems very similar to the etherlight!! Extremely comfy, but really loud! I was so afraid of waking up my friends that I wouldn’t move at all, so had a hard time getting comfortable. Traded that for the Nemo tensor, which was significantly quieter, but definitely not as comfy. My arm fell asleep a little and my hip hit the ground a bit. Currently torn between the two, depends on what you value most!
Important review. Definitely the best three pads on the market right now
Thank you so much for these amazing reviews! I bought the etherlight xt based off of your earlier review of it and couldn't be happier with it. Picked up the thermarest z-sol for additional insulation during shoulder seasons, and that definitely helps with the warmth!
Thank you so much for the video.
My first pad I purchased is the S2S Ehterlite and just bought the Nemo Tensor.
I agree with your findings as both pads have performed well for me.
I use the OV pillow.
I ended up buying the female sts pad a few weeks ago. Here in oz it’s the same price as the other 2 pads, and of course the women’s pad is warmer. Based on this review I’m glad I made the choice I did :)
Just a quicky: why, "of course" - I'm looking for a warmer pad and don't care about labelling.
Still happy with this choice?
We were apprehensive about the noise our Neoair Xlite would make, but It turned-out to be a non-issue. We barely notice the noise. The X- lites are very warm, and light weight, and, very importan: compact when packed-up. Having a small pad means we can have a smaller capacity backpack. I think that the size of the pad, when packed up, is an import factor that should be factored-in for a review of sleeping pads.
Wow this is arguably one of your most 'anticipated' videos so far. This will be a go-to video for anyone looking for an inflatable sleeping pad 😎
Over here in Uk Thermarest seems to be the go-to for just about everyone looking for a high-end pad so having bought the Tensor insulated I've had a lot of questions as to why. Now I can point them at this video and perhaps feel a little smug. :-) :-)
I’ve tried all 3 of these also. I arrived at pretty much the same conclusion as you. My nutshell review:
X-lite: warm, light, noisy
Etherlite: most comfortable, least warm. Quiet. Hated the storage sack/inflation bag. Best valve.
Tensor: warm (not quite X lite level, but close), middle comfort level. Best inflation bag of these three.
My personal sleeping pad of choice? Exped Synmat UL. Comfortable. The Schnozzle is the best inflation bag. (Side note the Nemo Vortex bag fits the Exped valve and Exped Schnoozle fits the Nemo valve.). Good feeling material. (20 D). Weight is on par with the Tensor. Not the highest R value for cold conditions (I think it’s around a 3. The Synmat UL Winter has an R value of around 5 for a few ounces more.).
exped durability is terible.
Using my Tensor tonight. It's supposed to be in the 30F range but I've taken it to 20F before. That review should be a textbook!
Dude im just searchin the last days like crazy about the ether light and the nemo sensor for comparison thank you so much for making my decision easier!
What did you end up going with?
I ain't sure about that noise factor and want to test both mats out now. Then I hope that I can Make a decision😅
Hi Justin. I know this vid is a few months old, but the numbers you gave for cost and weights at the beginning threw me off for a second, but I then came to a quick assumption that you were comparing larger/wider versions of these pads. It just wasn't confirmed or disclosed until much later in the video. I have the previous model of the Xlite and just picked up a Tensor on sale at a local retailer and also recently got my wife the Ether Light XT, so this video jumped out at me given that we now have all three of these pads in our house as well (plus some Klymits), but in the regular sizes. Nice, thorough review!
Hey Will. Sorry, I should have been more clear in the video. I went with the lightest 25 inch wide option available for each pad.
By far THE BEST sleeping pad video on these three pads. I own or have owned all 3 and still prefer my Big Agnes AXL Insulated for summer, Xtherm for Cdn winters, and my Klymit Ultralite Sl for shoulder seasons. And a short Uberlite for ultralite. The Xlite is awesome but seems to be getting louder w each iteration.
Your breakdown and assessments for each pad were spot on and perfdctly delivered. Accurate and fair! 🇨🇦✌🏻
This review is awesome!! Explains exactly what you want to know about each one and how they stack up! Been searching for ages for different comparisons and this is by far the best, thanks Justin!
Finally a good comparison video between these mats. Nobody has done that especially not in this detail. Unfortunately you missed out the Exped sleeping mats. I wonder how comfortable these are. Some say the vertical baffles are more comfortable and give more support. They are pretty light too but not as light as the Thermarest.
It's really difficult for me to get exped mats where I am, especially at a good price!
Thank you for explaining how to use a pump sack. I've seen another review video where the guy used it wrong by directly blowing into it and then complaining that it took too long. Subscribed, because you know what you're talking about.
I had a tensor long wide. Super comfortable but the material feels sketchy thin and really took up a lot of tent space.
I opted to return for an xlite large for weight savings and thicker material. Not quite as comfortable and a little noisier, but I sleep well on it. Best compromise of all factors IMO.
Just listened to you on Trail Tales as well. This video here is a perfect example of what you claimed on Kyle’s podcast. You really bring a unique perspective to these gear reviews.
Phenomenal!
Thanks Steve! I appreciate that!
@2:45 you said the ‘Nemo Tensor is made with a 20D Nylon’. This is incorrect. It is made from a 20D Polyester. This fabric has differnt qualities and properties to a nylon.
You are correct, I misspoke.
I dont have any issues with a 20” wide pad, but I could benefit from a wider quilt. My butt likes to pull up on the edge of my quilt and makes a draft. I do roll around a lot, but i think that sleeping on a bed full of dogs has accustomed me to sleeping on a narrow strip of bed.
Man I hated my x-lite, but loving my Trekology UL. However; the Trek pump bag sadly, with the huge roll top design, is complete garbage and beyond useless.
As always with your content... Succinct, packed full of good info, and no elitism. Your genuine enthusiasm for this life shines through
if you want a warmer Nemo pad they do an alpine version but it costs a bit more and is a little heavier at 777grams i think. It has an R-value of 4.8 though.
Tremendous review and form of presentation! Just ordered the S2S Ether Lite XT Insulated - thanks for the direct noise comparison.
This is so helpful! Really appreciate the thorough cross comparison.
I am amazed and so happy to see that you talked about sustainability and ethics. As a beginner backpacker in Canada and an environmental sustainability student I can’t tell you how much I love this!!!
My go to channel for backpacking gear review! It's a shame that none of the shops in my country let you try on sleeping pads, bought about 4 that I find super uncomfortable.
I've tried the Therm-a-rest and Nemo in store. If laying on your back, I found Therm-a-rest more comfortable. Laying on you side, Nemo was better. Didn't have access to StS.
Love my Nemo Tensor! Just picked up (er, I mean, invested in, ha ha) the Alpine model for Winter backpacking trips!
I'd love to be able to try out an Alpine!
That assumes that each category is weighted equally. For many comfort is the most important feature, especially beginners. It can mean the difference between enjoying backpacking or not.
100%! It's just a fun way to summarize it all :)
The best is the most comfortable for your needs. My family used a lot of different pads, at the end not one that wins the comparisons. We usually love Sea to Summit, but didn't work for us at all. At the end we all use Exped Synmat 7cm, why? Because of the design the arm don't slip of because the outer tubes are minimal higher...And the widths is a problem with all of them, if you take a small / medium they are usually to narrow.
Thank you for this review. Exactly what I was looking for, and hands-down the BEST review I have ever seen done on these three pads!!! I really liked the technical build details, and I have not seen them mentioned anywhere else. The illustrations really helped with understanding how these pads are made, and the differences between them. I could have done without the sustainability and ethics information, but it's a cheap price to pay for such a thorough review. I just ordered the Tensor in hopes of replacing my incredibly noisy Xlite.
THANK YOU. What a great and very very useful overview. Big help for buying the right pad.
Didn't expect to learn how to use my pump bag in this video, but I did!
Another great review Justin! I don't even need a sleeping pad but it makes me want to buy one any way
Very thorough comparison. I love my Tensor wide! But... for winter, one thing I found was that too much surface area made it sleep colder since the bottom on snow and the top area not covered by you or your sleeping bag is getting chilled. I'm looking at the Tensor Alpine as a possible winter pad.
That is definitely a factor and a big reason the Neoair baffling system is so warm. Each baffle can be heated up independently and that surface area effect isn't as much of a factor. After S2S comes out with the Ether Light XT Extreme, I really want to do a comparison of the Xtherm, Tensor Alpine, and Ether Light Extreme.
@@JustinOutdoors When you do the next review what would also be interesting to know is roughly how much of a warmth bump you can get from one of these pads by putting something like an SOL bivy under them like thru-hikers do (see Wild on the Trail) so if your feet end up hanging off the pad for example, you don't end up waking up because of it.
Exactly the video I was looking for, thank you.
Sustainability is often just a tax on progress, which is the actual best route for sustainability. Making people poor by charging them extra for everything, or forcing R&D and production costs into solutions that still aren't good enough in the big picture instead of better products, is just stalling out the clutch as we try to move into a higher gear of environmental interaction.
But, while I roll my eyes at that particular granola, I do want to compliment you and point out what a gem your channel has been when it comes to finding quality products.
Goodness me..you’re right, that was a lot of information! Top effort in making these reviews, informative but concise. I am wanting to replace my thermarest and I think, I have made a decision. I am not watching anymore reviews!! Haha. Thank you so much for sharing this!
Nemo all the way! If you need to be in extreme cold weather they have the Nemo Tensor Alpine. Sea to Summit looks great though!
I like it too, it comes with my name on it LOL I really want to buy the American made though, in this case I think I'll do the nemo too. I'm a newbe so I really appreciate all the info.:)
Exped synmat UL long/wide. Vertical baffles, low cost, low weight, zero noise. 3.5 r value.
Get the UL Winter if you need a higher AR value
Im a big fan of the big agnes insulated core pads
I have all three. I have one correction the Nemo Tensor material is said to be recycled 20D polyester fabrics not Nylon. The only reason I’m paying attention to the material is because I cut and sealed my Thermorest Neo air xlite. I plan to experiment with cutting down a ether lite I have That has a leak.
I’m still researching whether the polyester fabric of the tensor can be cut down and properly sealed. My motivation is to create a 25” wide torso pad to save weight.
Size options is a feature that is important to me. I only sleep on 25 inch wide pads. My arms don't flop off when I'm on my back and I have plenty of maneuvering room for side-sleeping. But I don't need one that is longer than 72 inches, so that means I require a "Regular Wide" option. That leaves me with one choice among these three: Nemo Tensor.
The Xlite comes in a regular/wide mummy shaped pad and the Ether Light XT men's comes in a regular/wide square version. The Ether Light XT women's large is also 25in wide and 72in long.
Perfect timing for this video I was recently trying to figure out what pad I wanted and then, boom!
Any inkling on what you're leaning towards?!
@@JustinOutdoors well my shelter is a hammock so i'm thinking the edge support and thickness doesn't matter much to me. so im thinking the Thermarest because of the weight. but also i am thinking the nemo would be good because its not tapered.
Excellent review brother! Tensor insulated for the win.
That's an excellent review mate, thanks a lot for this. I'm planning on doing some trekking and wild camping this year (Scotland) and have been researching sleep pads. I was already leaning towards the Nemo based on research I've done already, and this review cinched it. I'm going with the Nemo mostly due to noise ...
Thanks for this very complete comparison. Now let' choose !
Best pad review I've ever seen. Great job!
Awesome review! Thanks
I would probably have chosen the tensor, but I like the idea of bringing the pad inside a bivvy and I need a large wide pad too so to fit in a bivvy (which is a large mummy shape) I’ll go with the sea to summit as it’s large model is mummy cut and clearly the most comfortable and brining it inside a bivvy will make it slightly warmer, also would probably bring a closed cell foam pad as an under layer in winter anyway
Thanks so much for a detailed informative summary. It save me a lot of time to do a research. Well done 👍
It would be pretty interesting to know what pad size you refer to with the weight.
I followed your link and picked up that Nemo pad. The long/wide one was on a black Friday sale for $135
Sleeping mats are probably one of the hardest things to settle on for me. I have tried so many and been disappointed. They are something you really need to test out in the field to. Laying down on it in the store does not do it justice. Kinda need that weekend away with it just to see how it performs and how your body likes it. For me I settled on the Klymit brand. I find them to be the most comfortable for side sleeping. I don't think they are as light but for me the trade off is worth it in comfort. I would rather have a good nights sleep and haul a extra few ounces.
I tell you one thing though. That Thermarest "Bag-o-chips" may be one of the best selling but I guarantee you, its also one of the most returned sleeping mats on the market. That yellow howling banshee of a mat will drive you batty after a few hikes! If I was not so environmentally conscious I would have sacrificed mine to the fire gods atop of some cold mountain. xD
Either way good job on the comparison vids. Loving your channel so far. :)
Klymit makes some great pads for the price. The only problem I have with them is that they aren't quite warm enough for me!
Great review. I do think durability also should've been on the chart. Unless i missed something and it was baked in sustainability.
Baked into Quality
Hey Justin. Great video. I just recently purchased the Trekology UL 80 mat that I’ll be putting to test this coming summer. Going from a z rest to this should be an improvement none the less.
Awesome information, didnt see this video but I'm glad i went with the Nemo tensor.
Great information Justin, I appreciate the detail and comparison between the sleeping pads.
Impressive and informative video! Thank you!
Very comprehensive review, thanks.
I love my Tensor. I have both the insulated and non insulated. Well worth the investment.
I am going back and forth between the Ether lite xt rectangle wide & the Nemo Quasar reg wide. What are your thoughts?
Quasar is too heavy for me!
Thanks for this! love your videos. so helpful
I'd be interested in how the Thermarest Neoair Topo Luxe sleeping pad fits into this grouping. Thanks for the matchup Justin. My first backpacking pad is the Ether Light and I have no need to replace it. But that doesn't mean that I keep my eyes & ears open.
Great comparison video, thanks Justin. 🙌
I just got my tensor and after blowing it up and laying around on it for a little while... I still hate the horizontal tubes... (on hardwood floor)
You can still tell they're tubes. I put my short CCF pad on top and it made a difference, but that seems silly.
I'll hopefully get to camp with it next weekend. I'll know for sure then.
I'm coming from a DownMat lite 5
I want to try a S2S now...
Thermarest NeoAir X-Lite regular wide version (new). Checks all my boxes.
I got the Sea to Summit Ether Lite based on your review from I think last year. What an amazing pad, combined with the thermarest foam pad, good to go ! For cold weather that is . Great review man !
Do you put the pad under the ether lite?
@@nicolaspaulin6925 Yes, but sometimes I put it on top.
Nice review Justin. I love my tensor insulated. Got used to the valve very quickly so not an issue for me. Regret not buying the wide though, even if it is 125g heavier.
As a bigger guy my nemo tensor keeps getting holes at the baffles on the bottom like it it ripping away. I guess I'll give the S2S a shot as the crinkle of the x-lite would drive me nuts.
The Nemo Tensor is very expensive in Europe … just bought the S2S Ultralight Insulated.
Interesting. One factor I'd like to know is field repairability - cos I've been let down by my Thermarest cos it was one of the Trail pads that have a weird film coating or surface which means you can't use most things on it (not even Gorilla Tape/duct tape - won't stick!)- and Thermarest's field repair kit was TERRIBLE.
So really wary about buying a new pad from them if my perm repair doesn't work from them if they can't be fixed with field stuff (non-brand kits, tape, tenacious tape - even sil tape would not stick to it!)