My Thermarest has the pump sack and doesn’t need your breath to use it. I have read that the moisture from your breath can get trapped in the pad and over time can create mold and other nasty things.
Hi Dan How tall are you? I'm tossing up between the Nemo Tensor Regular/Wide and Long/Wide, I am 6ft Thanks for your videos Dan, very helpful and entertaining👍
@@nicksmith3037 ...Hi Nick! I may be able to help you as I'm 5"11, and I have 2 of the same Nemo Tensor in Regular and Reg/Wide. I think you'd be happy with the Reg/wide if you toss & turn a lot when you sleep. I love the 3' thickness of this pad and the 25" width cause I move around a lot when I sleep...I was warm also. I made the mistake of purchasing the Regular 20" width, and when I would toss and turn, I would have to make sure I was on the pad. With the Reg/Wide 25" I NEVER had that problem, I had enough width to keep me on the pad no matter how much I moved around. I actually have a 3rd Original Nemo Tensor in Reg/Wide 25", but I didn't like the air valve, and it didn't include the air sack. I thought I'd try and go lighter, and that's why I purchased the newer Reg 20" wide Tensor, but just didn't like the skinnier width, so I had the buy the reg/wide25" LOL! Now I know in the future if I ever have to buy another pad, I sleep better with a 25" width pad. Hope this helps!🇺🇸
@@cjsoutdoors4412 hey thanks so much so nice infi amd advice there, I appreciate that, I ended up purchasing the Long Wide and am very happy with the size, it fit me great and also very impressed with the comfort, warmth, packablity and quality of this pad!
@@chriswaters9267 Comrade The term comrade is used to mean 'mate', 'colleague', or 'ally', and derives from the Spanish and Portuguese, term camarada, literally meaning 'chamber mate', from Latin camera, meaning 'chamber' or 'room'.
Whatever pad one uses if you dig a little depression under where your hips hit the ground your comfort goes way up. Called a hip hole strangely enough.
Pro tip: These things have uses beyond just camping. For instance, if you need to stay with your kid at the children's hospital, the inflatable is great if all you have is the floor. The closed cell pad (I recommend the Nemo version), is also great if you happen to have a fold-out couch in the room. The foam evens out all the weird dips and crevices in those couches and makes a huge difference. Seriously, my wife even remembers to pack it along for overnight stays. Another use is staying at the in-laws if they don't have a comfortable bed. Maybe send one of these with your kid if they're having a sleep-over. Bring the closed-cell pad along for a picnic, or fire works, or any other time you're sitting on the ground. A sit-pad (off topic, I know) is great to stand on or sit on if you're going to a really cold football game. So many uses!!!
I love my x-therm in large dead comfy and thick. Never had pads in the Army back in the 80's so back then a piece of foam then was a revelation to keeping warm. I'm always feared about punctures though. X-therm does come with a pump bag but I use the mini electric one myself as I just leave it while setting up. Love the videos and keep up the good work, all the best from North Yorkshire UK.
I think we bought our pads around the same time 🤙, and I too am in love with the wide long. I am 6’4” 220 and have used it now for a dozen nights and will not go back for a side sleeper. Even used my pump sack as a billow for a wet fire with some electrical tape nozzle contraption. Go wide if you’re broad shouldered, larger or just enjoy more room.
I just switched from Thermarest NeoAir to Nemo Tensor Insulated based on some of your other videos. Already I like it a lot more! Comfort, ease of inflation, size, noise - it’s a win for me! I understand the appeal of both but for me the Nemo is definitely more comfortable and quieter and I’ll happily carry the extra ounces! Now I’ve just got to offload my xlite somewhere...
I also have the nemo Tensor and I love it. The most comfortable sleeping pad I've owned. I originally purchased the regular 25" wide rectangular version of this series pad. Then they updated the pad and made it better, like the current version in your video. So I bought the current updated version in the regular 20"mummy. I found out two things after that. I like the rectangular 25 " wide version better. I like being able to move around a lot and stretch when I'm sleeping and the 25" wide version allows me to do that and on a 3" thick pad!
I have both of the pads pictured in your thumbnail (Uberlite & Tensor) and pick which one to use based on the hike I'm doing. I agree, Nemo Tensor is best-all-around so if I could only have one that would be it. I'd been brand loyal to Thermarest for about 25-years, but now that I have the Tensor I see lots of advantages. I prefer the valve style and appreciate the pump sack was free. Less crinkle sound and I prefer the feel of the material. I have the long/wide of each. I use the Uberlite for longer hikes in warmer weather or when my son comes because he likes the Tensor better too. If it is cooler, the distance is reasonable, or I'm hiking with slower folks, I bring the Tensor - it is usually worth the extra ounces.
I’ve don’t Scouting for 10 years in the Uk, my summer camping gear is awesome, but I’ve barely had any experience with winter camping. So I really enjoy these videos because they help me learn how to but that extra bit warmer during the cold nights. Love your channel !
I just spent 4 nights in Yosemite and Inyo sleeping on a NEMO Tensor with an R value of 3.5. My sleeping bag was rated down to 16 degrees for the low end of the comfort range. Temps got below freezing each night. I was never cold. The Tensor did get a small hole and slowly lost all air. That said, I like the idea of a closed cell pad as it does not require inflating. With the right sleeping bag/quilt and the right clothes (I only wore underwear and a thin shirt) a sleeping pad should be for comfort and not R value, IMHO. Just some thoughts.....
I struggled with comfort until I bought the nemo tensor wide based on your recommendation in a previous video. I love it and am glad you still think it’s the top. Thanks man!
Thx for showing the Backcountry website and talking about the gear and gearhead helpers/ sales people. This is one reason I like your videos. This one was especially helpful on most type of sleep pads. You are the best.
I have a thermarest cordura, from 2003. It's still going strong. It's 25" by 80", has about a 4 R value and weighs 1lb 1oz. It has a feature where if more warmth is needed the pad can be flipped to the reflective side, if not, the other side. Almost 20 years later and the pads are heavier, more expensive. Not much reason to upgrade.
Saw the title to this video and came to post right away, my vote is for Klymit. I have the Static V and the Static V Insulated and absolutely love them, and for way less than comparable Thermarest or Nemo or any other brand!
Love my Neo Air Xtherm. I fold it rather than roll it, and put it up towards my back. Put the inflation bag in with the pad folded up. Really minimizes the space requirement.
Based on Dan's and Devin's (Backcountry Exposure) recommendation of the Nemo Tensor line, I picked up a Nemo Tensor Field about a year ago, and i love it. It's made out of tougher (& slightly heavier) material. But I am OK with that, because I'm usually tough on my gear. It is an older model so I got a helluva a good deal from REI.
I'm using the Klymit Static V because it only takes about 12 breaths to blow up. It's 18oz but im willing to Cary the extra weight over the 20 plus breaths it takes to blow up other pads.
The Nemo Alpine is really nice. The other day it was 30 degrees out and I laid my pad on cold concrete and laid on it. It felt like I had a heating pad under me.
Sir. I am a novice, looking to begin camping and hiking and biking around the country ! I have just returned from a trip around the North rim, and I realized I need to educate myself, so thank you!! I am not a kid, so I'm going to get a cot sir ,pads and bags worked, but colder ground....yeah. be safe bud
I got a Nemo Cosmo 1.5 years ago and wow! Incredibly impressed with how durable, comfy, and easy it was to inflate. Worth the money if you don't care for being ultralight. The foot pump is the best thing I've done for my gear list. Happy camping!
I have one too! Love the foot pump (just use my hands). Best sleeping pad I've ever had, though a bit noisy. It weighs 2.5 lbs. so I've been thinking of getting something under 2 lbs. I just got my tent to 3 lbs. and my sleeping bag to 1 lb. 11 oz. I would go for this Nemo Tensor insulated, but I don't know if I can justify dropping $200 when I have such a great pad. It has lasted me around 5 seasons!
@@adaumus Wow that's awesome to hear the cosmo has lasted you so long! It really is a great pad and I hear you lol. If you're able to sell it and get a bit of $$ for it, that could probably make the new pad a bit more attractive! But hard to sell something you love so much too lol
@@Z0MB13Redfield I hear ya loud n clear amigo. But when we roll into camp eager for bedtime and wake up smiling that's when I get questions 🤗😁😀😋.. consider yourself part of the smart club 😂🤣😉
I have the Nemo Tensor Long n Wide and really like it for the reasons you stated. I made a pillow slip out of stretch knit fabric that fits over the top end of my mat like a condom. I stuff it up with my clothes to make a more realistic pillow feel. I don't like wobble effect with blow up pillows. Clothes are warm for me in the morning and right at hand.
Yay! Someone else who discusses using foam over an air pad if using double layers, I find it much more comfortable to put the foam on top of the air pad.
Thanks Dan-I was already thinking about picking up a Tensor, but now you’ve convinced me to finally pull the trigger on a new pad this weekend. I’ve got an older Nemo that I’ve used for the last 4 years, but it is a bit heavy compared to the new Tensor model. I’ve owned multiple Nemo items over the years, and they are all very high quality.
For me, I laid on the tensor. It is the most comfortable because it's the flattest on top. The others feel like you're on a pool raft. I didnt need the extra width. I also put a space blanket beneath for extra puncture protection.
Dan, I'm glad I found your YT channel. I am new to the hiking/backpacking community and have watched a ton of videos on gear. I recently went out and camped over night using my old military sleeping bad and a cheap air mattress I purchased (trying to save money). Well I found out real quick that air mattress did not do good at all because I am a side sleeper. My back and hips were killing me plus I didn't get much sleep because I was cold. So, after watching your video/videos I believe the Nemo Tensor Reg/Wide, Rectangle shape is what will be best for me. Thanks
We were on a hunt for wide sleeping pads that are not breaking the bank and just bought a lesser known sleeping pad (for ground sleepers), the AMOK Fjøl. We got the standard LW Fjøl Sleeping pad with an RValue of 3.5 and pump bag included for $109.... 😳
I settled on the NEMO Tensor wide regular too. i kept rolling off the narrower pads and couldn't stand the noise every time I moved. One thing I do differently, though, is I don't sleep with the NEMO full of air. Once I settle in for sleep, I gradually let some air out until it fits the form of my hips and shoulders. Very comfortable.
I've been rocking Therm-a-Rest NeoAir Sleeping Pad that is so old it isn't even sold any longer. It has a 2.5 R-Value and weighs 13oz. If I expect to be out in really cold weather, I also bring the Therm-a-Rest Zlite pad to put underneath it. I would prefer a slightly wider pad, but my Therm-a-Rest NeoAir Sleeping Pad has been getting it done, so I'll just keep on keeping on with it.
I opted for the Trangoworld Confort Air from Trekinn. Also at 26 inches wide and a good 3.5 inches thick it is superbly comfortable. And has a built in pump so preventing the moisture and fungus built up when inflating by mouth. At half the price of the equivalent Thermarest but a little heavier at 770gm.
Took a Nemo Tensor on my 2019 AT thru hike and loved it all the way. I did have to replace it toward the end but, airpads are known to not make it. Plus it took me 7 months. If I was as quick as most, it would have made it.
I just started using the Nemo couple months ago definitely agree most comfortable for wait for three season. One note I would add on the Uber if you’re camping out mid summer in the southeast when it’s super hot the Uber light acts almost like a cooling pad on hot summer nights. I wouldn’t use it much below 50° though. Great video by the way
Uninsulated AXL with a 1/8” CCF layer underneath is my current system. The foam does double duty as an extra layer of insulation, as well as a protector from pokey stuff. I sleep warm so I’ve not had issues, and the combo weighs 11oz.
Love it that you also do mention grams and Celsius. That is highly appreciated as I am always struggeling with ounces and fahrenheit as we do not use these measurements here. Many greetings from the Netherlands.
The US uses Fahrenheit the few other countries are so small you can’t even find them on a map. Look at tents, everything starts with a flynet and then you at the outertent, try that when it rains in one of the northern states or anywhere outside the US you will not sleep well.
Yes and Amen! I started with a self-inflating military pad, then bought a cheap self inflating one with a built in pillow and then finally wised up and got a Klymit Static V, but as a side sleeper with arthritis, I needed something thicker and wider. The Tensor Regular Wide has been the sweet spot.
Just picked up Nemo Tensor Insulated Seep Pad. Hope it's as good as you say it is. I had a Q-Core one before and it ended up leaking on a seam and wasn't repairable. Thanks for all the work your doing on videos lately Dan.
Thank you so much! I purchased two items based on your review the Kelty sleeping bag and the Nemo sleeping pad. Love them both! Thank you so much for all you do!
I don’t hike, but moto camp - we have the luxury of carrying heavier gear - hence why I went for the Sea To Summit Comfort Plus SI - my thoughts, buy the one that will give you the best sleep!!
Ended up with the Nemo Tensor based on your reviews (your link made it super easy!). I needed the extra warmth cause I'm in the High Uintas. Great advise as always. Thanks!
Stumbled on this channel by total accident but man was I blown away. K producing great stuff, Dan! Your videos are exactly what I need as a weekend backpacker.
I use a Sea to Summit comfort light insulated pad and I love it. Granted it’s my first in many years, but with the stuff sack doubling as the pump, it’s easy to inflate and it doesn’t wake me up when rolling over so I would say it’s pretty quiet.
That is also a great pad. The pump sack makes it such a nice option. Not quite as thick as the Tensor, but rolls up smaller (about the size of a Nalgene bottle).
I've barely done any tent camping i usually do hammock does it work to put a under quilt under you sleeping bag and over you pad for insulation from the cold ground i know its great for hammock but idk bout pad in tent
One of the worst night’s sleep was in August in the BWCA. I shivered all night so now I carry a Sea to Summit Comfort Plus Insulated. As God is my witness I’ll never be cold again! I’ll take the hit on the weight and leave the camera gear at home.
I’ve been running the regular size tensor insulated for a couple years now and really love it. I’m 6’2 210lbs so it’s definitely on the small side but it’s fine. Did ten days with it dipping down to -17c some nights. Works awesome.
I finally made the switch from my Klymit Static V to the Therm-A-Rest NeoAir XLite and I'll most likely never look back. The Klymit pads are great for the price, but the insulation is a concern (I'll admit its my own fault as I didnt even know what R-Value was when I bought them :D). I started winter camping and froze my butt off, so I picked up the Xlite and its awesome. I got one of the newer models with a 4.6 R Value and the pump sack included which is pretty nice, it definitely slow to inflate with it but nice to not have to worry about blowing the pad up after hiking 10 miles. I can definitely say they do make some noise as everyone has pointed out but I don't seem to mind it personally.
omg did you really just subtitle-translate fahrenheit to a system that actually has means something to viewers from any country in the world except 1? subscribed!!
Hello Dean, what do you think of a multi-day comparison of differently priced equipment? A cheap, a mid-priced and an more expensive equipment (not extreme high-price) ?? Tent, Sleep Pad, sleeping bag, clothes, cooking set and more ?? In which things is it worth saving money and where should you invest a little more ? Thanks! I´m a 2018 PCT through-Hiker
You read my mind! Working on a sort of similar video now. Comparing a budget (but good) setup to an EXTREMELY expensive setup! (So.. a bit different but still gonna be a good video I think!)
So, I have a Big Agnes sleeping pad and bag for 2 people. The bag works well. The issue we are having is its one big pad 50' x77". I'm 6'7" 280 lbs and she is 5'3" 120 lb. With my weight, tossing and turning, it's too hard for her and I feel like I'm sleeping on the ground. We can't get a good night's rest. So my thought is to get two of these pads 25"x77". It will fill out the design space 50" that the bag/pad cover is designed for. Any thoughts are appreciated. These pads are not a cheap experiment. I always blow up and release to desired comfort. I find it very hard to find that in a two person pad.
Thanks! I have a pro lite that is ok, but not great as a side sleeper, I’m passing it on to the kids and upgrading. I think you convinced me to go with the Tensor.
I just used the regular wide tensor for the first time this week- that pump sack is the bomb! And the pad is very comfortable! Have the uberlite and it is not as comfortable and a lot louder
I took my current sleep pad backpacking this weekend and I absolutely need to replace it. R value under a 2 and too narrow for this side sleeper. Thanks to the information you shared in this video I should make a better decision. Enjoy your channel!
Great review information, thanks. I like the way your hit the highlights and keep the pace up. Very efficient and informative and useful to the individual user. Thanks! Light back packing gear translates well into motorcycle camping equally well and I think I will use your idea of doubling up my pad setup. I have the acordian style silver/yellow Thermarest now and will add either the wide Nemo or Nero. Maybe the Alpine model, depends on the deals at Amazon. I would have possibly purchased here but then saw the connection with those law suit happy backcountry group. After the crap they pulled on small business competitors of outdoor sport businesses and others that had the same name -first- got away with it! I will never buy anything nor spend a penny to support a company that hired lawyers to send cease and desist letters (and sue) other companies using a generic name ( most of them had that generic name in their company profile/ads/tax forms/business licenses) before this backcountry even became a company. The secret deals made between the leadership of the company and the individual owners to carry their products and sell thru this company was an even bigger slap in the face. The guy should have been fired and/or resigned in shame. Great channel, I will subscribe and enjoy your great presentations on gear - but I will not use that company.
Why is klymit never talked about in the hiking community. They are inexpensive, very comfortable, are designed help keep the pad under you, durable, come in many styles, and avalable everywhere.
Not sure, I love mine. I think they're marketed towards the general camper/backpacker not the UL crowd. They aren't pushing the edge to be the lightest either.
Tried to get a NEMO Tensor Alpine long or wide but they are sold out everywhere. To get in on the current Labor Day sales I bought the NeoAir Xthem Max large/wide. Hopefully the crinkle sound isn't too bad. Scored it for $180 on Moosejaw with a cashback site.
I recently bought a Thermarest XTherm and I'm really enjoying it. So far I've been experimenting in my hammock and tent during the summer so I've been using a lightweight quilt with it. Haven't gone into the colder temps with it yet.
Thanks for a great video😉 I have Exped downmat tt 9 on my wintertrip. The safest inflatable in my opinion. It has six separate tubes, for punk you can replace the broken tube.
I have seen three or more comments on the Klymit Static V. My Klymit is the 73” X 23” and weighs 20.5 ounces. With a 2.5” height, it is plenty comfortable for me. Also, bought it on sale. “HOWEVER”. After testing it for about three years, I am giving it a thumbs down. First, it is a little on the heavy side. Mine is uninsulated and starts getting cold below 40 degrees. The last item is what I really don’t like. With the “V” shaped chambers, it takes forever to deflate the pad and get it back in my pack. Thanks Dan for giving me some new ideas.
Thanks for the info - Don't really like air pads but the thermarest may be the one for me - camping in July at night goes down to 5 degree above zero in northern ontario and I can use it in the fall too.
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CORRECTION- Some Thermarest pads DO come with pump sacks. I’m only (super)human people! I do make mistakes too! 🤷🏻♂️😂🙌
Dan, are you a side sleeper? I’ve heard good things about the tensor for side sleepers. What kind of sleeper are you?
My Thermarest has the pump sack and doesn’t need your breath to use it. I have read that the moisture from your breath can get trapped in the pad and over time can create mold and other nasty things.
Hi Dan
How tall are you? I'm tossing up between the Nemo Tensor Regular/Wide and Long/Wide, I am 6ft
Thanks for your videos Dan, very helpful and entertaining👍
@@nicksmith3037 ...Hi Nick! I may be able to help you as I'm 5"11, and I have 2 of the same Nemo Tensor in Regular and Reg/Wide. I think you'd be happy with the Reg/wide if you toss & turn a lot when you sleep. I love the 3' thickness of this pad and the 25" width cause I move around a lot when I sleep...I was warm also. I made the mistake of purchasing the Regular 20" width, and when I would toss and turn, I would have to make sure I was on the pad. With the Reg/Wide 25" I NEVER had that problem, I had enough width to keep me on the pad no matter how much I moved around. I actually have a 3rd Original Nemo Tensor in Reg/Wide 25", but I didn't like the air valve, and it didn't include the air sack. I thought I'd try and go lighter, and that's why I purchased the newer Reg 20" wide Tensor, but just didn't like the skinnier width, so I had the buy the reg/wide25" LOL! Now I know in the future if I ever have to buy another pad, I sleep better with a 25" width pad. Hope this helps!🇺🇸
@@cjsoutdoors4412 hey thanks so much so nice infi amd advice there, I appreciate that, I ended up purchasing the Long Wide and am very happy with the size, it fit me great and also very impressed with the comfort, warmth, packablity and quality of this pad!
Thanks for taking the time to include the Celsius temps!
Commie short for comrade? Like Comrade Trump?
@@chriswaters9267 commie like common sense ;)
@@chriswaters9267 Comrade
The term comrade is used to mean 'mate', 'colleague', or 'ally', and derives from the Spanish and Portuguese, term camarada, literally meaning 'chamber mate', from Latin camera, meaning 'chamber' or 'room'.
Thanks eh!
Why are you literally the outdoorsy dad version of Jim from the office
YES! I have to admit that's kind of what kept me watching the first video. Even sent it to my wife 'cus she's an Office nut
I can answer that, because the"force is strong with him" that's why.
Omg
He needs a camp Dwight in his videos now
@@findsirfelipe then do a camp on a beet farm
Whatever pad one uses if you dig a little depression under where your hips hit the ground your comfort goes way up. Called a hip hole strangely enough.
Pro tip: These things have uses beyond just camping. For instance, if you need to stay with your kid at the children's hospital, the inflatable is great if all you have is the floor. The closed cell pad (I recommend the Nemo version), is also great if you happen to have a fold-out couch in the room. The foam evens out all the weird dips and crevices in those couches and makes a huge difference. Seriously, my wife even remembers to pack it along for overnight stays.
Another use is staying at the in-laws if they don't have a comfortable bed. Maybe send one of these with your kid if they're having a sleep-over. Bring the closed-cell pad along for a picnic, or fire works, or any other time you're sitting on the ground. A sit-pad (off topic, I know) is great to stand on or sit on if you're going to a really cold football game. So many uses!!!
I love my x-therm in large dead comfy and thick. Never had pads in the Army back in the 80's so back then a piece of foam then was a revelation to keeping warm. I'm always feared about punctures though. X-therm does come with a pump bag but I use the mini electric one myself as I just leave it while setting up. Love the videos and keep up the good work, all the best from North Yorkshire UK.
I love my Nemo Tensor Wide pad! I just used mine for the first time this weekend and slept great! The extra weight of a wide pad is totally worth it.
I think we bought our pads around the same time 🤙, and I too am in love with the wide long. I am 6’4” 220 and have used it now for a dozen nights and will not go back for a side sleeper. Even used my pump sack as a billow for a wet fire with some electrical tape nozzle contraption.
Go wide if you’re broad shouldered, larger or just enjoy more room.
I just switched from Thermarest NeoAir to Nemo Tensor Insulated based on some of your other videos. Already I like it a lot more! Comfort, ease of inflation, size, noise - it’s a win for me! I understand the appeal of both but for me the Nemo is definitely more comfortable and quieter and I’ll happily carry the extra ounces! Now I’ve just got to offload my xlite somewhere...
Thanks for flashing up real measurements up on the screen. Definitely appreciate it.
I also have the nemo Tensor and I love it. The most comfortable sleeping pad I've owned. I originally purchased the regular 25" wide rectangular version of this series pad. Then they updated the pad and made it better, like the current version in your video. So I bought the current updated version in the regular 20"mummy. I found out two things after that. I like the rectangular 25 " wide version better. I like being able to move around a lot and stretch when I'm sleeping and the 25" wide version allows me to do that and on a 3" thick pad!
I have both of the pads pictured in your thumbnail (Uberlite & Tensor) and pick which one to use based on the hike I'm doing. I agree, Nemo Tensor is best-all-around so if I could only have one that would be it.
I'd been brand loyal to Thermarest for about 25-years, but now that I have the Tensor I see lots of advantages. I prefer the valve style and appreciate the pump sack was free. Less crinkle sound and I prefer the feel of the material.
I have the long/wide of each. I use the Uberlite for longer hikes in warmer weather or when my son comes because he likes the Tensor better too. If it is cooler, the distance is reasonable, or I'm hiking with slower folks, I bring the Tensor - it is usually worth the extra ounces.
I’ve don’t Scouting for 10 years in the Uk, my summer camping gear is awesome, but I’ve barely had any experience with winter camping. So I really enjoy these videos because they help me learn how to but that extra bit warmer during the cold nights. Love your channel !
I just spent 4 nights in Yosemite and Inyo sleeping on a NEMO Tensor with an R value of 3.5. My sleeping bag was rated down to 16 degrees for the low end of the comfort range. Temps got below freezing each night. I was never cold. The Tensor did get a small hole and slowly lost all air. That said, I like the idea of a closed cell pad as it does not require inflating. With the right sleeping bag/quilt and the right clothes (I only wore underwear and a thin shirt) a sleeping pad should be for comfort and not R value, IMHO. Just some thoughts.....
I struggled with comfort until I bought the nemo tensor wide based on your recommendation in a previous video. I love it and am glad you still think it’s the top. Thanks man!
Awesome to hear!!!
Thx for showing the Backcountry website and talking about the gear and gearhead helpers/ sales people. This is one reason I like your videos. This one was especially helpful on most type of sleep pads. You are the best.
I have a thermarest cordura, from 2003. It's still going strong. It's 25" by 80", has about a 4 R value and weighs 1lb 1oz. It has a feature where if more warmth is needed the pad can be flipped to the reflective side, if not, the other side. Almost 20 years later and the pads are heavier, more expensive. Not much reason to upgrade.
THANK YOU for putting the Celcius and gram conversions, on the video! It makes life soooo much easier for us internationals!
I love my Klymit Static V LUXE Insulated pad. It is actually wide enough for a human being.
that has been one of my best camping gear purchases so far, so much cheaper and more quiet.
I'm still rockin' my Klymit Static V.
Same here....only 11 breaths to blow it up....last thing I want to do at the end of a day of hiking is pass out from blowing up my pad.
Been thinking of trying this. I have an outdoor vitals and love it's thickness being a big guy and side sleeper
I got the static v insulated. The best night I've ever slept in the outdoors
Saw the title to this video and came to post right away, my vote is for Klymit. I have the Static V and the Static V Insulated and absolutely love them, and for way less than comparable Thermarest or Nemo or any other brand!
we have done 3 trips with the Nemo alpine mountaineering pad and we love it. very good product.
Love my Neo Air Xtherm. I fold it rather than roll it, and put it up towards my back. Put the inflation bag in with the pad folded up. Really minimizes the space requirement.
Based on Dan's and Devin's (Backcountry Exposure) recommendation of the Nemo Tensor line, I picked up a Nemo Tensor Field about a year ago, and i love it. It's made out of tougher (& slightly heavier) material. But I am OK with that, because I'm usually tough on my gear. It is an older model so I got a helluva a good deal from REI.
I'm using the Klymit Static V because it only takes about 12 breaths to blow up. It's 18oz but im willing to Cary the extra weight over the 20 plus breaths it takes to blow up other pads.
The Nemo Alpine is really nice. The other day it was 30 degrees out and I laid my pad on cold concrete and laid on it. It felt like I had a heating pad under me.
Sir. I am a novice, looking to begin camping and hiking and biking around the country ! I have just returned from a trip around the North rim, and I realized I need to educate myself, so thank you!! I am not a kid, so I'm going to get a cot sir ,pads and bags worked, but colder ground....yeah. be safe bud
I got a Nemo Cosmo 1.5 years ago and wow! Incredibly impressed with how durable, comfy, and easy it was to inflate. Worth the money if you don't care for being ultralight. The foot pump is the best thing I've done for my gear list. Happy camping!
I have one too! Love the foot pump (just use my hands). Best sleeping pad I've ever had, though a bit noisy. It weighs 2.5 lbs. so I've been thinking of getting something under 2 lbs. I just got my tent to 3 lbs. and my sleeping bag to 1 lb. 11 oz. I would go for this Nemo Tensor insulated, but I don't know if I can justify dropping $200 when I have such a great pad. It has lasted me around 5 seasons!
@@adaumus Wow that's awesome to hear the cosmo has lasted you so long! It really is a great pad and I hear you lol. If you're able to sell it and get a bit of $$ for it, that could probably make the new pad a bit more attractive! But hard to sell something you love so much too lol
SleepyWolvy good idea!!
The regular wide Nemo Tensor is the best piece of camping equipment I ever bought. The pump sack is an additional win especially after a 20 mile hike!
I use the sea to summit ether light xt and it's super comfortable!
I like my Nemo Switchback. It’s awesome for a closed cell.
Klymit static v pads seam to be really quite and comfortable
Hey amigo, I love klymit !! I have 2 1_ non insulation.
1_ full 6.5 r value
The non is 30" wide
The inso is 27" wide.
I am very happy with them 😀😀👍🏼👍🏼
@@trakyboy5128 I wish more people would advertise how great static v pads are. I too have the insulated one as well
@@Z0MB13Redfield I hear ya loud n clear amigo. But when we roll into camp eager for bedtime and wake up smiling that's when I get questions 🤗😁😀😋.. consider yourself part of the smart club 😂🤣😉
Price is good too!
I just love your natural, friendly explanation style.
I have the Nemo Tensor Long n Wide and really like it for the reasons you stated. I made a pillow slip out of stretch knit fabric that fits over the top end of my mat like a condom. I stuff it up with my clothes to make a more realistic pillow feel. I don't like wobble effect with blow up pillows. Clothes are warm for me in the morning and right at hand.
Yay! Someone else who discusses using foam over an air pad if using double layers, I find it much more comfortable to put the foam on top of the air pad.
Thanks Dan-I was already thinking about picking up a Tensor, but now you’ve convinced me to finally pull the trigger on a new pad this weekend. I’ve got an older Nemo that I’ve used for the last 4 years, but it is a bit heavy compared to the new Tensor model. I’ve owned multiple Nemo items over the years, and they are all very high quality.
You’re gonna love it! Best pad I’ve ever used!
For me, I laid on the tensor. It is the most comfortable because it's the flattest on top. The others feel like you're on a pool raft. I didnt need the extra width. I also put a space blanket beneath for extra puncture protection.
Dan, I'm glad I found your YT channel. I am new to the hiking/backpacking community and have watched a ton of videos on gear. I recently went out and camped over night using my old military sleeping bad and a cheap air mattress I purchased (trying to save money). Well I found out real quick that air mattress did not do good at all because I am a side sleeper. My back and hips were killing me plus I didn't get much sleep because I was cold. So, after watching your video/videos I believe the Nemo Tensor Reg/Wide, Rectangle shape is what will be best for me. Thanks
We were on a hunt for wide sleeping pads that are not breaking the bank and just bought a lesser known sleeping pad (for ground sleepers), the AMOK Fjøl. We got the standard LW Fjøl Sleeping pad with an RValue of 3.5 and pump bag included for $109.... 😳
This looks promising. Did you use it yet?
@@Hikerhikeshikes19 Yes we use it and it is great sleeping pad
I settled on the NEMO Tensor wide regular too. i kept rolling off the narrower pads and couldn't stand the noise every time I moved. One thing I do differently, though, is I don't sleep with the NEMO full of air. Once I settle in for sleep, I gradually let some air out until it fits the form of my hips and shoulders. Very comfortable.
I've been rocking Therm-a-Rest NeoAir Sleeping Pad that is so old it isn't even sold any longer. It has a 2.5 R-Value and weighs 13oz. If I expect to be out in really cold weather, I also bring the Therm-a-Rest Zlite pad to put underneath it. I would prefer a slightly wider pad, but my Therm-a-Rest NeoAir Sleeping Pad has been getting it done, so I'll just keep on keeping on with it.
I also like how rectangular the pad is. I really like the Nemo.
I opted for the Trangoworld Confort Air from Trekinn. Also at 26 inches wide and a good 3.5 inches thick it is superbly comfortable. And has a built in pump so preventing the moisture and fungus built up when inflating by mouth. At half the price of the equivalent Thermarest but a little heavier at 770gm.
Took a Nemo Tensor on my 2019 AT thru hike and loved it all the way. I did have to replace it toward the end but, airpads are known to not make it. Plus it took me 7 months. If I was as quick as most, it would have made it.
I have the same Nemo Tensor also and love it. I actually don't even use my pump sack and just blow right into the pad.
Try Sea to Summit Ether light XT insulated - most comfy pad ever
Why don’t more people talk about the Ether. It’s amazing!!!
I was waiting for some enlightened individuals to bring up the Ether 😂
Agreed!!!!!
I'm with ya!
Yas, I knew I'd find the ether light insulated master race in the comment section! We are the lucky few...
My sleep system is thermarest neo air xlite with Sierra designs Backcountry bed. Best ever! So happy and sleep like a baby out in the Sierra.
Vielen Dank für das machen und zeigen von diesem Video. ❤
Und vielen Dank für die Kommentare. Sie sind sehr hilfreich. Ich werde mir die Nemo kaufen.
I just started using the Nemo couple months ago definitely agree most comfortable for wait for three season. One note I would add on the Uber if you’re camping out mid summer in the southeast when it’s super hot the Uber light acts almost like a cooling pad on hot summer nights. I wouldn’t use it much below 50° though. Great video by the way
Uninsulated AXL with a 1/8” CCF layer underneath is my current system. The foam does double duty as an extra layer of insulation, as well as a protector from pokey stuff. I sleep warm so I’ve not had issues, and the combo weighs 11oz.
Love it that you also do mention grams and Celsius. That is highly appreciated as I am always struggeling with ounces and fahrenheit as we do not use these measurements here. Many greetings from the Netherlands.
The US uses Fahrenheit the few other countries are so small you can’t even find them on a map. Look at tents, everything starts with a flynet and then you at the outertent, try that when it rains in one of the northern states or anywhere outside the US you will not sleep well.
Bought Tensor couple months ago. Very happy with it. Would recommend.
I like klymit design because it holds you in place. Those flat rectangle ones i always roll off
The point of the pump sack is to prevent mold in the sleeping pad, which results from the moisture from your breath.
Yes and Amen! I started with a self-inflating military pad, then bought a cheap self inflating one with a built in pillow and then finally wised up and got a Klymit Static V, but as a side sleeper with arthritis, I needed something thicker and wider. The Tensor Regular Wide has been the sweet spot.
Just bought the Nemo Tensor last week. Stoked to see your review on it!
These videos are so great, Dan. As a new solo hiker, I cannot thank you enough!
Just picked up Nemo Tensor Insulated Seep Pad. Hope it's as good as you say it is. I had a Q-Core one before and it ended up leaking on a seam and wasn't repairable. Thanks for all the work your doing on videos lately Dan.
Thank you so much! I purchased two items based on your review the Kelty sleeping bag and the Nemo sleeping pad. Love them both! Thank you so much for all you do!
Great sleep pad review Dan. I have a Therm-a-rest NeoAir All season Large. Got it for great rest 60% off. Starting to hear up.
Check out the Nemo Alpine Tensor for Nemo’s winter lightweight pad.
I don’t hike, but moto camp - we have the luxury of carrying heavier gear - hence why I went for the Sea To Summit Comfort Plus SI - my thoughts, buy the one that will give you the best sleep!!
What kind of sleeping pad did the pirate want? One with a high aRRRRRR value!
🤦🏻♂️🤣
You need many, many years of therapy.
Jake: Just see yourself out, there's a good lad. 😂
I have a
Venture. Even though it’s on the lower price, it is very comfortable. It is non insulated I might add.
Ended up with the Nemo Tensor based on your reviews (your link made it super easy!). I needed the extra warmth cause I'm in the High Uintas. Great advise as always. Thanks!
I like Exped pads. Got a MegaMat for car camping and I fighter one for bike packing.
I love my Uberlite. I do use it all the way til (4-5 celsius). Great pad for the weight ratio
Stumbled on this channel by total accident but man was I blown away. K producing great stuff, Dan! Your videos are exactly what I need as a weekend backpacker.
I use a Sea to Summit comfort light insulated pad and I love it. Granted it’s my first in many years, but with the stuff sack doubling as the pump, it’s easy to inflate and it doesn’t wake me up when rolling over so I would say it’s pretty quiet.
That is also a great pad. The pump sack makes it such a nice option. Not quite as thick as the Tensor, but rolls up smaller (about the size of a Nalgene bottle).
I've barely done any tent camping i usually do hammock does it work to put a under quilt under you sleeping bag and over you pad for insulation from the cold ground i know its great for hammock but idk bout pad in tent
Thanks Dan. I know this vid is a little old, but I just found it and picked up an xtherm for $160 at backcountry. Heck of a steal imo.
I use the big Agnes system bags with an Exped Down UL 9 so so warm R value of 8. Heavy but in winter it’s essential to get a good nights sleep
One of the worst night’s sleep was in August in the BWCA. I shivered all night so now I carry a Sea to Summit Comfort Plus Insulated. As God is my witness I’ll never be cold again! I’ll take the hit on the weight and leave the camera gear at home.
I agree that’s the best sleeping pad out there right now
I’ve been running the regular size tensor insulated for a couple years now and really love it. I’m 6’2 210lbs so it’s definitely on the small side but it’s fine. Did ten days with it dipping down to -17c some nights. Works awesome.
Taking the Z rest for an extra layer this weekend. Gonna be coooold
Nice touch with the metric units. Thanks a lot!
I finally made the switch from my Klymit Static V to the Therm-A-Rest NeoAir XLite and I'll most likely never look back. The Klymit pads are great for the price, but the insulation is a concern (I'll admit its my own fault as I didnt even know what R-Value was when I bought them :D). I started winter camping and froze my butt off, so I picked up the Xlite and its awesome. I got one of the newer models with a 4.6 R Value and the pump sack included which is pretty nice, it definitely slow to inflate with it but nice to not have to worry about blowing the pad up after hiking 10 miles. I can definitely say they do make some noise as everyone has pointed out but I don't seem to mind it personally.
after i researched pads i didnt buy either of these i bought an exped instead. im so glad i did i love mine.
thanks for including metric!
Just bought the Tensor. Super nice pad!!
The X therm is meant for extreme cold. 6 r value and above is for extreme cold. 4 r value is considered a 4 season pad. And so on.
I’m a fan of the Women’s XLite...a little more R with a little less weight.
omg did you really just subtitle-translate fahrenheit to a system that actually has means something to viewers from any country in the world except 1? subscribed!!
Yep. Sure did. All for you buddy!! 😂👍🏼
Hello Dean, what do you think of a multi-day comparison of differently priced equipment?
A cheap, a mid-priced and an more expensive equipment (not extreme high-price) ??
Tent, Sleep Pad, sleeping bag, clothes, cooking set and more ?? In which things is it worth saving money and where should you invest a little more ? Thanks!
I´m a 2018 PCT through-Hiker
You read my mind! Working on a sort of similar video now. Comparing a budget (but good) setup to an EXTREMELY expensive setup! (So.. a bit different but still gonna be a good video I think!)
That green accordion fold pad isn't bad if you sleep on your back and don't mind being aware of the ground
So, I have a Big Agnes sleeping pad and bag for 2 people. The bag works well. The issue we are having is its one big pad 50' x77". I'm 6'7" 280 lbs and she is 5'3" 120 lb. With my weight, tossing and turning, it's too hard for her and I feel like I'm sleeping on the ground. We can't get a good night's rest. So my thought is to get two of these pads 25"x77". It will fill out the design space 50" that the bag/pad cover is designed for. Any thoughts are appreciated. These pads are not a cheap experiment. I always blow up and release to desired comfort. I find it very hard to find that in a two person pad.
Thanks! I have a pro lite that is ok, but not great as a side sleeper, I’m passing it on to the kids and upgrading. I think you convinced me to go with the Tensor.
I just used the regular wide tensor for the first time this week- that pump sack is the bomb! And the pad is very comfortable! Have the uberlite and it is not as comfortable and a lot louder
I took my current sleep pad backpacking this weekend and I absolutely need to replace it. R value under a 2 and too narrow for this side sleeper. Thanks to the information you shared in this video I should make a better decision. Enjoy your channel!
Great review information, thanks. I like the way your hit the highlights and keep the pace up. Very efficient and informative and useful to the individual user. Thanks!
Light back packing gear translates well into motorcycle camping equally well and I think I will use your idea of doubling up my pad setup. I have the acordian style silver/yellow Thermarest now and will add either the wide Nemo or Nero. Maybe the Alpine model, depends on the deals at Amazon. I would have possibly purchased here but then saw the connection with those law suit happy backcountry group. After the crap they pulled on small business competitors of outdoor sport businesses and others that had the same name -first- got away with it!
I will never buy anything nor spend a penny to support a company that hired lawyers to send cease and desist letters (and sue) other companies using a generic name ( most of them had that generic name in their company profile/ads/tax forms/business licenses) before this backcountry even became a company. The secret deals made between the leadership of the company and the individual owners to carry their products and sell thru this company was an even bigger slap in the face. The guy should have been fired and/or resigned in shame. Great channel, I will subscribe and enjoy your great presentations on gear - but I will not use that company.
Why is klymit never talked about in the hiking community. They are inexpensive, very comfortable, are designed help keep the pad under you, durable, come in many styles, and avalable everywhere.
Not sure, I love mine. I think they're marketed towards the general camper/backpacker not the UL crowd. They aren't pushing the edge to be the lightest either.
Tried to get a NEMO Tensor Alpine long or wide but they are sold out everywhere. To get in on the current Labor Day sales I bought the NeoAir Xthem Max large/wide. Hopefully the crinkle sound isn't too bad. Scored it for $180 on Moosejaw with a cashback site.
I recently bought a Thermarest XTherm and I'm really enjoying it. So far I've been experimenting in my hammock and tent during the summer so I've been using a lightweight quilt with it. Haven't gone into the colder temps with it yet.
Thanks for a great video😉 I have Exped downmat tt 9 on my wintertrip. The safest inflatable in my opinion. It has six separate tubes, for punk you can replace the broken tube.
My xtherm came with a pump sack. Best purchase I've ever made. Been standing strong for about two years now.
I have seen three or more comments on the Klymit Static V. My Klymit is the 73” X 23” and weighs 20.5 ounces. With a 2.5” height, it is plenty comfortable for me. Also, bought it on sale. “HOWEVER”. After testing it for about three years, I am giving it a thumbs down. First, it is a little on the heavy side. Mine is uninsulated and starts getting cold below 40 degrees. The last item is what I really don’t like. With the “V” shaped chambers, it takes forever to deflate the pad and get it back in my pack. Thanks Dan for giving me some new ideas.
Super review , greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪
Damn I have been deciding between these two pads for so long!!!! Great video as always! Thanks Dan
Honestly gave thumbs up for the metric annotations alone :D
Thanks for the info - Don't really like air pads but the thermarest may be the one for me - camping in July at night goes down to 5 degree above zero in northern ontario and I can use it in the fall too.
Dan have you tried a Klymit Static V sleeping pad?
That I don't recommend.